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canthus13Haha.. my wife, using a VM for some web apps that require windows:  "omigosh! >_< I hate windows00:15
canthus13firefox is stuck, logitech updates are stuck, opened another copy of firefox so now it's stuck... :-/"00:15
BiosElementcanthus13: Ugh, awesome. >.>00:16
BiosElementcanthus13: Sad thing is that, even with how awesome I'll admit Win7 to being, I can't stand it >.>00:16
canthus13Hmm... try this for fun... cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/audio00:19
dmcglonehello00:54
dmcgloneI have reserved the conference room at the library01:25
dmcgloneI had to find a windows computer with IE on it :-/01:25
dmcgloneYour meeting room request for Main Library 3rd Floor Board Room on Sunday, May 01, 2011, 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM has been received and is pending. You will be notified if there is a problem with the request.01:26
dmcgloneman this room has never been this dead01:32
Unit193Then keep talking?01:34
dmcglonelol01:34
canthus13Meh. I've seen this room dead for a week straight before.01:35
canthus13Nothing on the screen but 'date changed' messages.01:35
dmcgloneI forgot how I can associate one of my IP address's with a hostname in ubuntu anyone?01:35
canthus13dmcglone: 2 options.. set up a DNS server, or edit your hosts file.01:35
dmcgloneah dang I forgot /etc/hosts01:35
dmcglonehahahahahahaha01:35
Unit193canthus13: You didn't have the screen full of joins/parts?01:36
dmcglonecanthus13: your a genius!!!01:38
dmcglone:-)01:38
dmcgloneanyone experienced with joomla here?01:39
dmcglonehot diggity dog!01:40
dmcgloneI blew the damn conversation again!01:41
dmcglonedang if paultag walked in here everyone would be on him like flies on shit! LOL01:42
canthus13dmcglone: I'm just working...01:52
dmcgloneI'll be back, I can't mount my damn share for some reason01:54
Unit193dmcglone: What share?02:06
dmcgloneone of my network shares02:07
Unit193SMB or NFS?02:07
dmcgloneSMB02:08
dmcgloneI fixed it though, somehow the dumb share dissapeared02:10
Unit193What do you use to mount?02:11
Unit193smbclient and mount.cifs are my friends...02:12
dmcglonemount.cifs02:12
dmcgloneI have it in my fstab to auto mount02:12
Unit193What's hosting the shares?02:12
Unit193I just run it every boot02:12
dmcgloneno, personal shares02:12
Unit193Hosting = Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu desktop, etc02:13
canthus13No SMB/CIFS on my network is my friend. :)02:26
* canthus13 <3 NFS02:27
dmcgloneI have NTFS shares thats why I use CIFS/SMB02:28
canthus13dmcglone: I have no windows machines. :)02:29
dmcgloneI got 2 that belong to my mom02:39
dmcgloneshe lives in the lower level with me and she uses windblows!02:39
Unit193Stick Ubuntu and a Windows XP theme, see if she notices02:40
dmcgloneshe can't use linux  because she has 2 sewing machines that need windows software :-/02:41
dmcglonehttp://www.husqvarnaviking.com/us/Designer_Diamond.html02:42
dmcglonewhats the command to change permissions on a dir and all the sub-dir's and files in that file?03:02
dmcglonechmod 755 * only changes in the current dir, but I have a LOT of directories03:03
canthus13dmcglone: see my blog.  http://www.canthus13.com:8000/wordpress03:03
canthus13there's a post on recursive chmod.  I can't remember how at the moment.03:04
dmcglonehow come chmod *.* doesn't work anymore???03:05
dmcglonenow it's chmod *03:05
canthus13heck if I know.03:05
canthus13oh. it should work.. for anything with a period in the name.03:05
Unit193I'm not dmcglone, but I checked your blog...03:06
* canthus13 pokes at Unit193.03:06
dmcgloneI got it03:07
Unit193I was guessing you didn't really care...03:07
dmcglonechmod 755 -R *03:07
canthus13:D03:08
dmcglone-R is for recursive03:08
canthus13oh yeah. that's right.. my post was dealing with skipping folders.03:08
* dmcglone hacks canthus13's server and chmod 777 -R * . rm -rf *03:09
dmcglonehahahahaha03:09
dmcgloneah hell why change the permissions just to delete everything03:09
dmcgloneI take that back, /me hacks canthus's server and chown david.david *03:10
Unit193david:david03:10
canthus13meh. just sudo mk2fs /dev/sda103:12
Unit193Not much for blogging?03:14
dmcgloneI think I may have got joomla to allow javascript in posts :-)03:15
Unit193Like wordpress or drupal better?03:15
dmcgloneI'm still comparing drupal and joomla, wordpress is more of a blogging software type thing. I'm looking for a full fledged CMS03:19
dmcgloneso far my hack isn't working :-/03:20
dmcgloneit's displaying the javascript, not running it :-/03:20
dmcgloneOh well I give up, I gotta go get a shower03:25
Unit193That time of year again?03:25
canthus13waitwhat? dmcglone was trying to fuck with my server? :)03:34
Unit193canthus13: Post when you try natty?03:35
canthus13I'm not likely going with natty. I'll prolly switch fully to either straight Debian or Crunchbang when 10.10 EOLs.03:35
Unit193Still going to stick in here?03:36
canthus13Of course. My wife and kids still run Ubuntu. I just can't stand the direction ubuntu is going with the interface. :(03:37
Unit193X/K/Lubuntu? Gubuntu? ;)03:57
canthus13U.03:58
Unit193As in, you don't like the interface, change to ^^? (do you think there will be a Gubuntu?)03:58
o0splitpaw0othey pulled back unity for this up coming release until it's tuned up. You just got to think what they are trying to focus on. Making a ui that someone never experienced in computers, nor interested in learning it can pick up on it with in less than an hour and navigate. It's a wee hard to fathom that when you are on the technical side. Just like Linus torvalds has said. "they don't care why it's not working, they04:01
o0splitpaw0o just want it to work"04:01
canthus13Unity should be an option.04:13
canthus13Not forced on everyone. I don't need a playskool UI.04:14
o0splitpaw0oIf you look up old videos from times past from shuttleworth & blog postings, you can see that he's been trying to unify peoples work to try to keep consistency, but there has been resistance from some developers and distros who don't want to work on trying to resolve issues end users have, I think they had to after so many years give up trying to be the olive tree giver, going as far as taking his own money to hav04:14
o0splitpaw0oe his hired hands work on main tree projects to show there sincere interest to put linux on the desktop map, but some distros like the exclusiveness and because of that, it's cost loss of interest in big hardware companies to throw money into it, unless it's enterprise. That's a kick in the teeth. it sucks!04:14
canthus13hmm.04:20
o0splitpaw0oI mean look at launchpad, tat was setup free for any devs to u the in tree. some didnt want to be apart of it. Some preferred sourceforge. They even tried suggesting even a unified package manager. people didn't bite. I men the reason is, I bet when thy went to the table with compnies, that was there complaints and tried to send that essage across, but I think some saw it as "Oh Ubuntu on top now.. hey you can't t04:24
o0splitpaw0oell us what to do!" Just some from what I read let there ego's narcissist  side show it ass.04:24
o0splitpaw0ouhg I really hate this trackpad on this lappy. messing up my messages04:25
Unit193How do you update a BiosElement without a floppy?04:28
o0splitpaw0oI mean think of this. Gnome would still be in the repos. Your a savy guy. So you don't need to be hand held on knowing to install the ui. You can install from the net install version and select your prefs, but a newbie.. they might not have a clue even if there hardware is supported. They are trying to clear up that gap04:28
Unit193So making a Gubuntu would be nice, but then we have way too manu *ubuntus...04:29
canthus13Gubuntu?04:30
Unit193Gnome Ubuntu04:30
o0splitpaw0oUnit193: I bet someone is already working on it.. well you know there is superubuntu, linuxmint, ubuntu ultamate.. it's already coverd04:31
canthus13Ah.04:32
canthus13Of course, that would probably involve Gnome 3.. and gnome-shell gives me a headache with all the zooming. :(04:32
Unit193LinuxMint isn't Ubuntu (looks more like Windows then Ubuntu) and UbuntuUltimate is FULL of stuff (2.*G?)04:34
o0splitpaw0oRight, but that's whats cool about linux right? I think it's trying to fix lets say a change that fixes one distros problem, but breaks anothers that's a pain in the but. Either with a specific app or a interface. From the kernel side there is standards, but once it branches from there it gets hairy04:41
o0splitpaw0oI think unifying that side of things, would help everybody. Meaning you drop another distro, it would be consistent across the board.04:43
canthus13that defeats the whole purpose of distros.04:45
o0splitpaw0oThen you wouldn't have to spend time tweaking it. You just have to install your preferred apps. And the jobs of those developers would be easier, because they wouldn't have to make modifications for specific distros.04:46
o0splitpaw0oNah, because distros run different package maintainers, different default desktops and apps.04:47
o0splitpaw0oTo apeal to specific targeted people04:47
o0splitpaw0oThey spend less time bug fixing, and more time enhancing features. Things would move along faster04:49
BiosElementUnit193: Linux Mint is going to Debian last I looked04:52
o0splitpaw0othats all ubuntu based on. They just moved further down the core chain, but still benifit from Addons and changes that ubuntu gives back to debian04:54
o0splitpaw0ohttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntu-and-debian05:00
Unit193BiosElement: They do have a Debian version (LMDE), not sure if they are going full Debian05:04
canthus13Crunchbang is based on Debian Unstable...05:05
BiosElementUnit193: Their PR dept. really doesn't release plans for the future well, but I understand it's under consideration since they're tired of ubuntu-centric changes05:05
Cheri703wow I'm really awake08:52
Derath-SrvrHi all15:02
paultaghey Derath-Srvr15:08
Derath-SrvrHey paultag, how are things?15:09
paultagDerath-Srvr: well, thanks! Just teaching a non english speaker the difference between shit and shat15:10
paultagDerath-Srvr: how are you?15:10
Derath-SrvrDecent... finishing week 4 at the new job... liking it so far15:10
Derath-SrvrLooking forward to the OHLoCo get-together... whenever it'll be lol15:11
paultagDerath-Srvr: nice :)15:36
paultagI need to find and get some Interns of Doom (the IoD)15:36
paultagI have so many projects I need some hands on15:36
Derath-Srvrlol15:37
Derath-Srvrwhat about submitting projects to GSoC?15:37
paultagDerath-Srvr: heh, they're not big enough :)15:37
paultagDerath-Srvr: we got GSoC for Fluxbox15:38
paultagwhich is nice15:38
* Derath-Srvr smirks15:38
OdaTROLOLOLOLOLOLOL HEAR THE TROLL BELLS RINGING18:22
* Derath-Srvr puts on headphones18:23
OdaDerath-Srvr: you didn't say they were noise isolating headphones, therefor you still hear the troll bells18:24
Derath-SrvrI'm sorry, did you say something? I can't hear...18:26
OdaDerath-Srvr: Unix is for fags, UMAD?18:26
OdaDerath-Srvr: UMAD BRAH?18:29
Derath-SrvrJust proved your intelligence to me... this conversation is over18:30
Odasuccessful troll is succesful18:31
deejoefor a very narrow value of "successful"18:31
OdaNaw, me likes debian18:31
Oda........maybe you took that seriously18:32
Derath-Srvrtoo busy and too old to bother with someone who uses "brah"18:34
OdaLOL18:35
OdaI never use that IRL18:35
OdaDerath-Srvr: it's purely for the troll factor18:35
Oda>and someone who uses "U" meaning "you"18:37
Odapaultag: you MUST be an F/18 right?18:46

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