[00:15] <canthus13> Haha.. my wife, using a VM for some web apps that require windows:  "omigosh! >_< I hate windows
[00:15] <canthus13> firefox is stuck, logitech updates are stuck, opened another copy of firefox so now it's stuck... :-/"
[00:16] <BiosElement> canthus13: Ugh, awesome. >.>
[00:16] <BiosElement> canthus13: Sad thing is that, even with how awesome I'll admit Win7 to being, I can't stand it >.>
[00:19] <canthus13> Hmm... try this for fun... cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/audio
[00:54] <dmcglone> hello
[01:25] <dmcglone> I have reserved the conference room at the library
[01:25] <dmcglone> I had to find a windows computer with IE on it :-/
[01:26] <dmcglone> Your meeting room request for Main Library 3rd Floor Board Room on Sunday, May 01, 2011, 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM has been received and is pending. You will be notified if there is a problem with the request.
[01:32] <dmcglone> man this room has never been this dead
[01:34] <Unit193> Then keep talking?
[01:34] <dmcglone> lol
[01:35] <canthus13> Meh. I've seen this room dead for a week straight before.
[01:35] <canthus13> Nothing on the screen but 'date changed' messages.
[01:35] <dmcglone> I forgot how I can associate one of my IP address's with a hostname in ubuntu anyone?
[01:35] <canthus13> dmcglone: 2 options.. set up a DNS server, or edit your hosts file.
[01:35] <dmcglone> ah dang I forgot /etc/hosts
[01:35] <dmcglone> hahahahahahaha
[01:36] <Unit193> canthus13: You didn't have the screen full of joins/parts?
[01:38] <dmcglone> canthus13: your a genius!!!
[01:38] <dmcglone> :-)
[01:39] <dmcglone> anyone experienced with joomla here?
[01:40] <dmcglone> hot diggity dog!
[01:41] <dmcglone> I blew the damn conversation again!
[01:42] <dmcglone> dang if paultag walked in here everyone would be on him like flies on shit! LOL
[01:52] <canthus13> dmcglone: I'm just working...
[01:54] <dmcglone> I'll be back, I can't mount my damn share for some reason
[02:06] <Unit193> dmcglone: What share?
[02:07] <dmcglone> one of my network shares
[02:07] <Unit193> SMB or NFS?
[02:08] <dmcglone> SMB
[02:10] <dmcglone> I fixed it though, somehow the dumb share dissapeared
[02:11] <Unit193> What do you use to mount?
[02:12] <Unit193> smbclient and mount.cifs are my friends...
[02:12] <dmcglone> mount.cifs
[02:12] <dmcglone> I have it in my fstab to auto mount
[02:12] <Unit193> What's hosting the shares?
[02:12] <Unit193> I just run it every boot
[02:12] <dmcglone> no, personal shares
[02:13] <Unit193> Hosting = Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu desktop, etc
[02:26] <canthus13> No SMB/CIFS on my network is my friend. :)
[02:27]  * canthus13 <3 NFS
[02:28] <dmcglone> I have NTFS shares thats why I use CIFS/SMB
[02:29] <canthus13> dmcglone: I have no windows machines. :)
[02:39] <dmcglone> I got 2 that belong to my mom
[02:39] <dmcglone> she lives in the lower level with me and she uses windblows!
[02:40] <Unit193> Stick Ubuntu and a Windows XP theme, see if she notices
[02:41] <dmcglone> she can't use linux  because she has 2 sewing machines that need windows software :-/
[02:42] <dmcglone> http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/us/Designer_Diamond.html
[03:02] <dmcglone> whats the command to change permissions on a dir and all the sub-dir's and files in that file?
[03:03] <dmcglone> chmod 755 * only changes in the current dir, but I have a LOT of directories
[03:03] <canthus13> dmcglone: see my blog.  http://www.canthus13.com:8000/wordpress
[03:04] <canthus13> there's a post on recursive chmod.  I can't remember how at the moment.
[03:05] <dmcglone> how come chmod *.* doesn't work anymore???
[03:05] <dmcglone> now it's chmod *
[03:05] <canthus13> heck if I know.
[03:05] <canthus13> oh. it should work.. for anything with a period in the name.
[03:06] <Unit193> I'm not dmcglone, but I checked your blog...
[03:06]  * canthus13 pokes at Unit193.
[03:07] <dmcglone> I got it
[03:07] <Unit193> I was guessing you didn't really care...
[03:07] <dmcglone> chmod 755 -R *
[03:08] <canthus13> :D
[03:08] <dmcglone> -R is for recursive
[03:08] <canthus13> oh yeah. that's right.. my post was dealing with skipping folders.
[03:09]  * dmcglone hacks canthus13's server and chmod 777 -R * . rm -rf *
[03:09] <dmcglone> hahahahaha
[03:09] <dmcglone> ah hell why change the permissions just to delete everything
[03:10] <dmcglone> I take that back, /me hacks canthus's server and chown david.david *
[03:10] <Unit193> david:david
[03:12] <canthus13> meh. just sudo mk2fs /dev/sda1
[03:14] <Unit193> Not much for blogging?
[03:15] <dmcglone> I think I may have got joomla to allow javascript in posts :-)
[03:15] <Unit193> Like wordpress or drupal better?
[03:19] <dmcglone> I'm still comparing drupal and joomla, wordpress is more of a blogging software type thing. I'm looking for a full fledged CMS
[03:20] <dmcglone> so far my hack isn't working :-/
[03:20] <dmcglone> it's displaying the javascript, not running it :-/
[03:25] <dmcglone> Oh well I give up, I gotta go get a shower
[03:25] <Unit193> That time of year again?
[03:34] <canthus13> waitwhat? dmcglone was trying to fuck with my server? :)
[03:35] <Unit193> canthus13: Post when you try natty?
[03:35] <canthus13> I'm not likely going with natty. I'll prolly switch fully to either straight Debian or Crunchbang when 10.10 EOLs.
[03:36] <Unit193> Still going to stick in here?
[03:37] <canthus13> Of course. My wife and kids still run Ubuntu. I just can't stand the direction ubuntu is going with the interface. :(
[03:57] <Unit193> X/K/Lubuntu? Gubuntu? ;)
[03:58] <canthus13> U.
[03:58] <Unit193> As in, you don't like the interface, change to ^^? (do you think there will be a Gubuntu?)
[04:01] <o0splitpaw0o> they pulled back unity for this up coming release until it's tuned up. You just got to think what they are trying to focus on. Making a ui that someone never experienced in computers, nor interested in learning it can pick up on it with in less than an hour and navigate. It's a wee hard to fathom that when you are on the technical side. Just like Linus torvalds has said. "they don't care why it's not working, they
[04:01] <o0splitpaw0o>  just want it to work"
[04:13] <canthus13> Unity should be an option.
[04:14] <canthus13> Not forced on everyone. I don't need a playskool UI.
[04:14] <o0splitpaw0o> If you look up old videos from times past from shuttleworth & blog postings, you can see that he's been trying to unify peoples work to try to keep consistency, but there has been resistance from some developers and distros who don't want to work on trying to resolve issues end users have, I think they had to after so many years give up trying to be the olive tree giver, going as far as taking his own money to hav
[04:14] <o0splitpaw0o> e his hired hands work on main tree projects to show there sincere interest to put linux on the desktop map, but some distros like the exclusiveness and because of that, it's cost loss of interest in big hardware companies to throw money into it, unless it's enterprise. That's a kick in the teeth. it sucks!
[04:20] <canthus13> hmm.
[04:24] <o0splitpaw0o> I mean look at launchpad, tat was setup free for any devs to u the in tree. some didnt want to be apart of it. Some preferred sourceforge. They even tried suggesting even a unified package manager. people didn't bite. I men the reason is, I bet when thy went to the table with compnies, that was there complaints and tried to send that essage across, but I think some saw it as "Oh Ubuntu on top now.. hey you can't t
[04:24] <o0splitpaw0o> ell us what to do!" Just some from what I read let there ego's narcissist  side show it ass.
[04:25] <o0splitpaw0o> uhg I really hate this trackpad on this lappy. messing up my messages
[04:28] <Unit193> How do you update a BiosElement without a floppy?
[04:28] <o0splitpaw0o> I mean think of this. Gnome would still be in the repos. Your a savy guy. So you don't need to be hand held on knowing to install the ui. You can install from the net install version and select your prefs, but a newbie.. they might not have a clue even if there hardware is supported. They are trying to clear up that gap
[04:29] <Unit193> So making a Gubuntu would be nice, but then we have way too manu *ubuntus...
[04:30] <canthus13> Gubuntu?
[04:30] <Unit193> Gnome Ubuntu
[04:31] <o0splitpaw0o> Unit193: I bet someone is already working on it.. well you know there is superubuntu, linuxmint, ubuntu ultamate.. it's already coverd
[04:32] <canthus13> Ah.
[04:32] <canthus13> Of course, that would probably involve Gnome 3.. and gnome-shell gives me a headache with all the zooming. :(
[04:34] <Unit193> LinuxMint isn't Ubuntu (looks more like Windows then Ubuntu) and UbuntuUltimate is FULL of stuff (2.*G?)
[04:41] <o0splitpaw0o> Right, but that's whats cool about linux right? I think it's trying to fix lets say a change that fixes one distros problem, but breaks anothers that's a pain in the but. Either with a specific app or a interface. From the kernel side there is standards, but once it branches from there it gets hairy
[04:43] <o0splitpaw0o> I think unifying that side of things, would help everybody. Meaning you drop another distro, it would be consistent across the board.
[04:45] <canthus13> that defeats the whole purpose of distros.
[04:46] <o0splitpaw0o> Then you wouldn't have to spend time tweaking it. You just have to install your preferred apps. And the jobs of those developers would be easier, because they wouldn't have to make modifications for specific distros.
[04:47] <o0splitpaw0o> Nah, because distros run different package maintainers, different default desktops and apps.
[04:47] <o0splitpaw0o> To apeal to specific targeted people
[04:49] <o0splitpaw0o> They spend less time bug fixing, and more time enhancing features. Things would move along faster
[04:52] <BiosElement> Unit193: Linux Mint is going to Debian last I looked
[04:54] <o0splitpaw0o> thats all ubuntu based on. They just moved further down the core chain, but still benifit from Addons and changes that ubuntu gives back to debian
[05:00] <o0splitpaw0o> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntu-and-debian
[05:04] <Unit193> BiosElement: They do have a Debian version (LMDE), not sure if they are going full Debian
[05:05] <canthus13> Crunchbang is based on Debian Unstable...
[05:05] <BiosElement> Unit193: Their PR dept. really doesn't release plans for the future well, but I understand it's under consideration since they're tired of ubuntu-centric changes
[08:52] <Cheri703> wow I'm really awake
[15:02] <Derath-Srvr> Hi all
[15:08] <paultag> hey Derath-Srvr
[15:09] <Derath-Srvr> Hey paultag, how are things?
[15:10] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: well, thanks! Just teaching a non english speaker the difference between shit and shat
[15:10] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: how are you?
[15:10] <Derath-Srvr> Decent... finishing week 4 at the new job... liking it so far
[15:11] <Derath-Srvr> Looking forward to the OHLoCo get-together... whenever it'll be lol
[15:36] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: nice :)
[15:36] <paultag> I need to find and get some Interns of Doom (the IoD)
[15:36] <paultag> I have so many projects I need some hands on
[15:37] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[15:37] <Derath-Srvr> what about submitting projects to GSoC?
[15:37] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: heh, they're not big enough :)
[15:38] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: we got GSoC for Fluxbox
[15:38] <paultag> which is nice
[15:38]  * Derath-Srvr smirks
[18:22] <Oda> TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL HEAR THE TROLL BELLS RINGING
[18:23]  * Derath-Srvr puts on headphones
[18:24] <Oda> Derath-Srvr: you didn't say they were noise isolating headphones, therefor you still hear the troll bells
[18:26] <Derath-Srvr> I'm sorry, did you say something? I can't hear...
[18:26] <Oda> Derath-Srvr: Unix is for fags, UMAD?
[18:29] <Oda> Derath-Srvr: UMAD BRAH?
[18:30] <Derath-Srvr> Just proved your intelligence to me... this conversation is over
[18:31] <Oda> successful troll is succesful
[18:31] <deejoe> for a very narrow value of "successful"
[18:31] <Oda> Naw, me likes debian
[18:32] <Oda> ........maybe you took that seriously
[18:34] <Derath-Srvr> too busy and too old to bother with someone who uses "brah"
[18:35] <Oda> LOL
[18:35] <Oda> I never use that IRL
[18:35] <Oda> Derath-Srvr: it's purely for the troll factor
[18:37] <Oda> >and someone who uses "U" meaning "you"
[18:46] <Oda> paultag: you MUST be an F/18 right?