[00:00] <alosa> gnosis: no reason
[00:00] <gnosis> bcessa: i don't believe you can pass a directory to sha1sum
[00:00] <Localhost666> ActionParsnip: it seems to work fine :)
[00:00] <Localhost666> thanks dude :P
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Localhost666: np man
[00:00] <gnosis> bcessa: you could make a tar and then then find its sha1
[00:01] <Braber01> um guys, can ANYBODY tell me how to run tcpdump on a blogtv chat room?
[00:02] <Jeruvy> Braber01: that doesn't make much sense, what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:02] <Braber01> I'm trying to track ip's of usernames in a chatroom on blogtv
[00:02] <swatto> where is the remote http in vlc please?
[00:03] <bcessa> gnosis: ok, thnx
[00:04] <swatto> How do you enable HTTP interface in VLC? cant seem to find it, downloaded the android app
[00:04] <Jeruvy> Braber01: tcpdump  will do that, but it won't provide a decent way to dissect what you want.  If you are familar with BPF's you could create one for your needs and use it with tcpdump.
[00:05] <Braber01> I'm not familar with either of those.
[00:05] <gnosis> alosa: ps aux | grep 3703
[00:05] <Jeruvy> Braber01: I'd not bother then, Wireshark may be a better more friendly tool for you.
[00:06] <gnosis> maheanuu: mind if I pm?
[00:07] <kdub> Braber01: are you admin for whatever you're talking about? you can't run wireshark on just some random server
[00:07] <Braber01> no I'm not
[00:08] <tab1293> hey, how can i tell what partition i installed grub on?
[00:08] <Jeruvy> Braber01: ya, those tools will require admin rights.
[00:08] <Braber01> oh.
[00:10] <Braber01> yeah it it says there are no interfaces to work with
[00:10] <Wipster> anyone know how I can stream 010101 etc forever at /dev/ttyusb0?
[00:11] <alosa> gnosis: postgres  3703  0.0  0.1  40924  2088 ?        S    Apr12   0:02 /opt/framework-3.6.0/postgresql/bin/postgres -D /opt/framework-3.6.0/postgresql/data -p 7175
[00:11] <alosa> 1000     27057  0.0  0.0   4012   768 pts/54   S+   01:05   0:00 grep --color=auto 3703
[00:13] <Dovid> anyone here that is in Austria now ?
[00:14] <Wipster> I have done cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ttyusb0 but I really need a square wave.....
[00:14] <phux> general advice: what should be my next distro after using ubuntu for one year? arch? gentoo? LFS?
[00:14] <rww> Ubuntu!
[00:14] <ohelig> ubuntu
[00:14] <rww> (Debian)
[00:14] <phux> you guys suck :D
[00:15] <maheanuu> Thanx I just finished partitioning and formatting a 320 gig ext drive and now will try to see if I can install a couple of movies from my pute on it then send it to another neice and let her do a dump from her puter
[00:15] <gnosis> alosa: are you running metasploit?
[00:15] <fanta> nas
[00:15] <phux> rww, ohelig : so you mean "try to dig as deep as possible" is the correct answer?
[00:15] <CobZo> phux: if you don't mind something that's not linux: freebsd
[00:16] <gnosis> maheanuu: mind if I pm?
[00:16] <ohelig> random rant, I don't like using XChat to get on freenode, but apparently KVIrc is vulnerable to remote attacks and I need to update, but there are no updates available :|
[00:16] <maheanuu> Not at all
[00:16] <maheanuu> Please do
[00:16] <CobZo> phux: I'm currently using freebsd even on my desktop
[00:17] <alosa> gnosis: no, I'm shure
[00:17] <phux> CobZo: i dont mind, i want to learn about unix. but freebsd... didnt consider that. is there a special reason for mentioning that?
[00:17] <Khisanth> ohelig: not even as a source patch?
[00:17] <alosa> CobZo: how flash in fbsd ?
[00:17] <ohelig> I didn't check :s
[00:18] <kdub> phux: the best way to learn is to walk through a linux-from-scratch install, in my humble opinion
[00:18] <acicula> phux: lfs is a usefull way of learning how a linux os is fit together, but its not practical for an everyday os, just fire up some VMs and try a few distros
[00:19] <abstrakt> phux, kdub, LFS does nothing for newbs, far better to lean basic programming and stuff like bash (and programming bash) if you want to "learn linux"
[00:19] <CobZo> alosa: there is no native flash for freebsd but linux flash works fine with the linux emulation layer
[00:19] <abstrakt> learn C and bash
[00:19] <matsur> so im running an HTTP server on a high port number so I dont have to screw with drop privs etc, but want it listening on port 80. i have iptables setup to use nat/PREROUTING to forward reqs on 80 to 9999, and accept rules for 80 and 9999. how can i not expose 9999 to the outside world and just allow connections iptables is forwarding?
[00:19] <kdub> abstrakt: yeah, but it really helps to understand the linkers, kernel, all the stuff things run on. forces you out of the newbie sandbox
[00:20] <alosa> CobZo: fuck adobe
[00:20] <acicula> matsur: use the REDIRECT target and let the http server listen on the local loopback interface
[00:20] <gnosis> alosa: you definitely have metasploit installed.  just kill the postgres process
[00:20] <abstrakt> kdub, learning C forces you out of the newbie sandbox, what's your point?
[00:21] <CobZo> phux: if you want to learn unix then I really recommend you *BSD over linux. they are far more unix-like than any linux distro I've used
[00:21] <mister2> would it be a good idea to copy a home folder from 10.10 to a fresh installation of 10.10, or the 11.04 beta?
[00:21] <abstrakt> lol, who even still uses actual unix anymore?
[00:22] <acicula> mister2: there shouldnt be a problem with that
[00:22] <abstrakt> i mean, i'm sure there are some probably, but really?
[00:22] <c33dog> mac users do abstrakt =)
[00:22] <kdub> abstrakt: the point is its important to learn C, but its also important to learn the command line, autotools, revision control systems, etc if you're going to do any meaningful contributions
[00:22] <acicula> abstrakt: there are a few around still
[00:22] <ohelig> You would probably have a bunch of broken shortcuts, but there shouldn't be any major issues
[00:22] <phux> kdub: acicula: yes, im looking for an os keeping the balance between usability and learning
[00:22] <abstrakt> c33dog, um, not they use a bastardized version of BSD
[00:22] <abstrakt> hard to call that unix
[00:22] <Localhost666> Man
[00:22] <mister2> k cool
[00:22] <abstrakt> s/not/no/
[00:22] <mister2> thanks
[00:22] <Localhost666> i followed some tips to solve my problem with flash running slow..
[00:22] <abstrakt> kdub, um, that's the point? um... yes, in fact now you are agreeing with my original point, thank you
[00:22] <Localhost666> but the problem continues
[00:23] <Localhost666> can someone give another tip?
[00:23] <itaylor57> phux: solarix x86
[00:23] <abstrakt> learn bash and C
[00:23] <matsur> @acicula iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 9999 how would i change this to redirect to loopback?
[00:23] <acicula> matsur: read the man page on what the redirect tag does
[00:23] <kdub> yeah, but phux wants to learn about how the whole system works together, and putting the system together is a good way to learn about all that
[00:23] <Localhost666> someone..?
[00:24] <s33kr> hi all
[00:24] <phux> abstrakt: just put it on my list :)
[00:24] <abstrakt> *sigh*
[00:24] <maheanuu> gnosis are you still in the pm mode?
[00:25] <s33kr> any1 use irssi?
[00:25] <abstrakt> phux, do as you like, putting random pieces together means relatively little... learning to program is quite useful - you're better off reading The FreeBSD Handbook than doing LFS
[00:25] <acicula> matsur: oh i see what you mean, ehm, sec
[00:25] <abstrakt> phux, or, as I already said, learning C
[00:25] <matsur> acicula perhaps DNAT instead?
[00:26] <s33kr> hullo?
[00:26] <scott__> Hey, my cpu is hovering around 75%-99%, yet system monitor is saying the most cpu I'm using is 20-40%.  Is anybody else having this problem?
[00:26] <acicula> matsur: eh yeah that should work i think
[00:27] <Ben64> scott__: what says 75-99?
[00:27] <acicula> matsur: may run into some routing issues when you connect from local network machines though
[00:27] <scott__> Ben64: The CPU monitor in Docky.
[00:28] <kdub> scott__: on a quad core system, what is reported in top is 100% per core...
[00:28] <Localhost666> ben64:
[00:28] <Ben64> the extra %'s might be iowait or something
[00:28] <Localhost666> can u help me?
[00:28] <phux> alright, thank you guys. i'll stick with ubuntu as main OS (and for learning C/Bash), and give LFS a shot on a little partition till it runs "perfectly" and i feel ready for the switch. think its the best solution :)
[00:28] <Ben64> Localhost666: not if i don't know the problem
[00:28] <acicula> in what world is LFS a solution :/
[00:29] <phux> in mine, acicula :P
[00:29] <Localhost666> Ben64: the problem is that when i try to play youtube videos or wtv Flash is very very slow...
[00:29] <alosa> CobZo: how the fbsd 9.0 will be in 2011 ?
[00:29] <alosa> gnosis: big thx :)
[00:29] <scott__> idk if I have quad core...when I go into gnome-system-monitor, it says I have two processors?
[00:29] <ubuntu> the 10.10 livecd is trying to spin down my harddrive to save power... my harddrive is and SSD
[00:29] <gnosis> phux: missed the discussion, what is your goal in learning C?
[00:29] <Ben64> Localhost666: computer specs? gpu, cpu, ram?
[00:30] <phux> abstrakt told me to learn, i think because the system is programmed in C?
[00:30] <phux> gnosis:
[00:30] <matsur> acicula: no dice with iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:9999
[00:30] <CobZo> alosa: I don't know but I'm running 9-CURRENT on my desktop and it's pretty solid already
[00:30] <eedeep>  I just up upgraded xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my keyboard shortcuts won't work...most importantly the run program dialog! I've been googling but to no avail...anyone seen this before?
[00:30] <Localhost666> Ben64: i saw in the internet that ppl with great fast computers have the same problem..
[00:30] <abstrakt> phux, yeah it's a decent idea to keep 3 partitions (not including swap which would make 4)
[00:31] <abstrakt> phux, one for system, one for alternate system and one for files
[00:31] <abstrakt> phux, then you don't have to worry about A) upgrades or B) recovery
[00:31] <pfifo> abstrakt: why not just have 3 harddrives and one for swap to make 4
[00:31] <CobZo> alosa: it has full dtrace support and zfs v28
[00:31] <phux> abstrakt: as im the careful guy its actually my setup :)
[00:32] <acicula> matsur: can you try the REDIRECT tag and see if that works
[00:32] <abstrakt> pfifo, probably because I personally, have a laptop :)
[00:32] <swatto> Anyone know how to setup VLC for remote control...ive enabled it but i cant seem to get to it in the browser
[00:32] <phux> pfifo: cause i have only 1 laptop
[00:32] <Localhost666> Ben64: is gnash an alternative..?
[00:32] <abstrakt> phux, yeah i love that setup actually, not just for recovery purposes for which it's a real life saver, but for testing too
[00:32] <CobZo> alosa: those are the main reasons why I love it and use it over linux even on my desktop
[00:32] <Khisanth> and 2TB of swap would be very silly :p
[00:32] <pfifo> 3 laptops with ...
[00:32] <abstrakt> phux, lets you play around with multiple distros
[00:32] <scott__> 2 TB of swap???
[00:32] <Ben64> Localhost666: no, the adobe one works fine
[00:32] <scott__> lol
[00:32] <matsur> acicula iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 9999 works fine, it just requires that i ACCEPT on 9999 as well as 80
[00:33] <Localhost666> Ben64: no it doesnt lol
[00:33] <matsur> I'd rath not expose 9999
[00:33] <Ben64> Localhost666: yes it does lol
[00:33] <phux> pfifo: im a f*cking broke student :)
[00:33] <gnosis> phux: if you're looking to do systems programming, then yeah C is good
[00:33] <acicula> matsur: does it redirect the packets to localhost though?
[00:33] <Localhost666> if i try to play youtube videos it just lags my pc
[00:33] <matsur> acicula: 1 sec
[00:33] <Localhost666> i tried to install flash 9 instead of 10 version
[00:33] <bastidrazor> phux: you also have poor english skills. language is to be family friendly
[00:33] <gnosis> phux: but it's not always the most useful day to day
[00:33] <Ben64> Localhost666: you still haven't answered my question
[00:33] <Localhost666> and the problem continues
[00:33] <Paddy_NI> Hey I am trying to use my netbook as a wireless access point, so far I am here http://tinyurl.com/6xzces4 at the broadcom section and I have no idea what to do next
[00:33] <kdub> just to be clear, i was never advising phux against learning C :)
[00:34] <matsur> phux look at golang
[00:34] <phux> bastidrazor: dont think that depends on my skills
[00:34] <faryshta> !ogre
[00:34] <matsur> nice and systemy/highlevel cross
[00:34] <pfifo> phux: im just messing around i alwayys do 4 partitions too, if i had 3 harddrives it would still only be seen as 1 ;)
[00:34] <faryshta> !voxel
[00:35] <Localhost666> what do u want to know ben64?
[00:35] <scott__> So Ben64, even though my Docky CPU monitor is saying about 64% cpu use when I'm doing nothing, and gnome-system-monitor is saying I'm only using about %40 at most, which number should I go by? :)
[00:35] <phux> gnosis: yeah, im actually learning RoR and Java
[00:35] <matsur> acicula: it does not, redirects to eth0 9999
[00:36] <acicula> pfifo: that reads as you have to rebuild the kernel driver? => apt-get source your current kernel source tree and make it?
[00:36] <acicula> matsur: eh weird
[00:36] <Ben64> scott__: run 'htop' in the terminal, it will tell you the truth
[00:36] <Ben64> Localhost666: computer specs? gpu, cpu, ram?
[00:36] <scott__> thx
[00:36] <pfifo> acicula: what?
[00:37] <Localhost666> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
[00:37] <acicula> matsur: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING --src 0/0 --dst 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
[00:37] <Omen_20> Could someone explain this stupidity that is adding a printer? It sees My printer plugged in, and its name. I click to use to it, it searches for drivers. Finds them, says they are now in use, all green, looks perfect. Then I press forward again and it pops up another page saying pick out drivers.... why? It just said it found them and put them in use....
[00:37] <acicula> matsur: err wait thats not correct either
[00:37] <v_v> scott__: maybe every time your docky monitor trys to get the cpu usage, itself makes the usage a little more.
[00:38] <Localhost666> ill upload all the info
[00:38] <Localhost666> wait
[00:38] <scott__> Ben64: Ok, Docky's right.  I'm using almost 100% right now, but none of the values below it add up to 100%.
[00:38] <Ben64> scott__: htop says 100% too?
[00:38] <acicula> matsur: http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls-local-port-redirection this goes through it, but i dont see how that rule is correct
[00:38] <scott__> Ben64: it does
[00:39] <Localhost666> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/vyEHy4n5
[00:39] <sploozer> I'm trying to accomplish this >>> http://packetlife.net/blog/2011/jan/12/emulating-wans-wanem/   but i can't figure how to setup iptables to route traffic to the second interface based on static routes...ideas?
[00:39] <Ben64> scott__: how many cores does it show you having
[00:39] <abstrakt> phux, java? ewww
[00:39] <scott__> 2
[00:39] <fisix> how do i know if ecryptfs has already encrypted my entire hdd and is mounting every time i boot?
[00:40] <acicula> fisix: type mount, also ecryptfs doesnt encrypt your entire hdd, at least not the ubuntu default, just your home directory
[00:40] <Ben64> Localhost666: gpu?
[00:40] <mike____> hi all
[00:40] <gnosis> phux: perl can also be useful with linux
[00:40] <pfifo> i typed 'apt-get install xubuntu-deskto' am i still allowed to hang out here?
[00:40] <hiexpo> !perl
[00:40] <Localhost666> no idea
[00:40] <Localhost666> Ben64,
[00:40] <gnosis> abstrakt: java's not that bad
[00:40] <Ben64> Localhost666: lspci | grep -i vga
[00:40] <phux> abstrakt: im sorry, its the choice of my professor
[00:41] <Localhost666> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300]
[00:41] <Localhost666> Oh, sorry im not english
[00:41] <hiexpo> pfifo, yes
[00:41] <Ben64> Localhost666: you just have a really slow laptop, and thats why it lags
[00:41] <fisix> acicula, mount has /home/fisix/.Private on /home/fisix type ecryptfs
[00:41] <acicula> fisix: thats how it works
[00:41] <Localhost666> erm
[00:41] <Localhost666> so.. how do i solve the problem?
[00:42] <fisix> acicula, perfect thanks. just what i needed to know. so it only encrypts home and not root
[00:42] <Localhost666> Ben64,
[00:42] <acicula> fisix: correct
[00:42] <matsur> acicula: thanks ill futz with it
[00:42] <Ben64> Localhost666: get a faster computer : /
[00:42] <acicula> fisix: it encrypts the home directory for individual users even
[00:42] <phux> gnosis: python too, as far as i know :) but trying to learn 3 languages at once is hard enough, at least for me :)
[00:42] <hiexpo> fisix, no need to encrpt root
[00:42]  * pfifo just used 'debootstrap' to install w/o refering to any references or man pages, how guru am I now?
[00:42] <Localhost666> Ben64: no alternatives for that?
[00:42] <fisix> acicula, makes sense. how do i know how many bits the aes cipher is?
[00:42] <scott__> Localhost666: lubuntu?
[00:43] <Ben64> Localhost666: probably not
[00:43] <mike____> testing
[00:43] <acicula> fisix: dunno, id assume it defaults to 128bit
[00:43] <Localhost666> lubuntu?
[00:43] <Localhost666> hum.. ok
[00:43] <scott__> Lubuntu
[00:44] <scott__> it's ubuntu with LXDE
[00:44] <scott__> it's good
[00:44] <scott__> and fast
[00:44] <fisix> acicula, icic. would it be possible for somebody to just retrieve my ubuntu password and crack it as with ophcrack in windows?
[00:44] <G_Val> hi guys !
[00:44] <scott__> hi G_Val
[00:44] <gnosis> sup G_Val
[00:44] <fisix> HI G_Val
[00:44] <Localhost666> scott_: I just program a lot
[00:44] <pfifo> fisix: 99.9% not a chance
[00:44] <G_Val> i have a problem with boot
[00:44] <hiexpo> !lxde
[00:44] <Localhost666> does it have all the tools i need etc?
[00:45] <Milossh> hello. How can I share folders via commandline
[00:45] <Milossh> ?
[00:45] <acicula> fisix: yes, the password is vulnerable to an offline dictionary attack
[00:45] <scott__> sorry, I guess I didn't read far enough back :)
[00:45] <abstrakt> phux, yes unfortunately many universities have gone java these days
[00:45] <G_Val> i restored a partition/table after accidentally deleted it
[00:45] <abstrakt> phux, really if you wanna learn to program you should read something like this http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
[00:45] <acicula> fisix: the solution for that is to pick a proper password
[00:45] <gnosis> Milossh: that's not a very detailed question
[00:45] <alosa> CobZo: the zfs v28 is production edition ?
[00:45] <fisix> pfifo, why is that? if somebody has physical access to the comp, can't they just retrieve the hash and crack it?
[00:45] <icarus> heya
[00:45] <Milossh> gnosis: I have ubuntu server in vbox, and I want to acces some of its files. How'd I do that
[00:45] <G_Val> and i tried to boot linux after that, but it freeze on the plymouth
[00:46] <Localhost666> scott_: what are the differences between ubuntu and lubuntu? :x
[00:46] <G_Val> so i updated grub, reistalled driver for video card
[00:46] <G_Val> but nothing changed
[00:46] <icarus> what up ppls..i just installed compsat via the backport package on ubuntu..
[00:46] <icarus> i got a intel adnavnced-n 6200 wireless card
[00:46] <G_Val> I thought maybe it happened because of file system and i check it with gparted on my usb drive
[00:46] <hiexpo> fisix, if you pick a passwork of lengyh of 10 or more and use a small case an upper case  a _ and a number you will be fine
[00:47] <scott__> Localhost666: ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop environment, and Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment.  In Lubuntu, the default browser is chromium, and I believe Claws Mail is the default mail client.  If you used a lighter DE, you'd have more memory for programming. :D
[00:47] <gnosis> abstrakt: nothing wrong with java for learning OOP.  it shouldn't be a first language imo though
[00:47] <icarus> that needs iwlagn
[00:47] <pfifo> fisix: it takes a long time to crack a hash like that, you password wont be much use to the hackerst great grand son when the crack finally finishes
[00:47] <G_Val> it gives me an error while trying to restore the file system
[00:47] <tab1293> where can you read ubuntus install log
[00:47] <G_Val> if you guys need i can give you an fdisk log
[00:47] <Localhost666> scott_: you think i won't notice any difference?
[00:48] <fisix> pfifo, icic. why isn't there a rainbow table attack as with ophcrack->windows?
[00:48] <scott__> Localhost666: I don't know, would you? :)
[00:48] <Tarek> hey
[00:48] <phux> abstrakt: thank you very much, i've been searching a long time for something like that
[00:48] <Localhost666> meh
[00:48] <Localhost666> lol
[00:49] <kdub> abstrakt: i'm with you on that java sentiment
[00:49] <gnosis> Milossh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders that may or may not help
[00:49] <G_Val> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594267/ hat should i do _ i don-t want to format my hd cause i have another os on it
[00:49] <abstrakt> phux, really, the better universities are going to teach scheme/lisp as a first language... decent universities probably python, run of the mill ones, Java
[00:49] <Tarek> there are ninja or monk in last co or noo ??
[00:49] <hiexpo> fisix, there is but don'tworry about it
[00:49] <G_Val> *what should i do
[00:49] <gnosis> abstrakt: <3 scheme
[00:50] <abstrakt> phux, as mark twain liked to say "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education"
[00:50] <scott__> Ben64: according to htop, my cpu usage has hovered around 100% in at least one of my cores for the last few minutes continuously.  Any more ideas?
[00:50] <fisix> hiexpo, oh i'm worried alright ;). and i guess people can always just change my pass, no? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/738169/linux_local_root_password_hacking/
[00:50] <scott__> I've been googling for a solution and found nothing yet.
[00:50] <pfifo> fisix: i have no idea what ophcrack is but if such a crack was possible, there would be servers getting rooted quite often.
[00:50] <phux> abstrakt: ,gnosis: my first language was opal, a functional language. java is a mercy compared to opal!!!!!
[00:50] <G_Val> scott__: did u read what i wrote ?
[00:51] <gnosis> phux: never heard of that
[00:51] <G_Val> gnosis: did u read what i wrote ?
[00:51] <G_Val> fisix: did u read what i wrote ?
[00:51] <G_Val> any suggestion ?
[00:51] <gnosis> but it looks like shit in the wikipedia article
[00:51] <acicula> fisix: its trivial to change a password if you get physical access, but that wont give you acces to the encrypted data.
[00:51] <pfifo> time to reboot
[00:51] <Localhost666> scott__: is it possible to install lubuntu from my pen drive just like i do with ubuntu?
[00:51] <phux> gnosis: no wonder, my professor developed it himself, it's not used for any program in the world. (my prof stated that himself)
[00:51] <abstrakt> phux, the linux kernel is written in C, much of the linux software available is written in C
[00:52] <gnosis> G_Val: sorry i didn't
[00:52] <fisix> acicula, gotcha that's what i needed to know (:
[00:52] <aeon-ltd> Localhost666: yes, thats possible with 99% of distros
[00:52] <hiexpo> fisix, i am a pen-tester /hacker   so make the password long and use differant tables and you will be fine i would suggest if you are worried 16 or better
[00:52] <abstrakt> phux, linux is really a programmer's OS, if you want to learn linux, learn C (and all the stuff about the tools that help you write it, like gcc and make and automake and autoconf)
[00:52] <kdub> phux: i'd be asking for my money back if i went to that school....
[00:52] <CobZo> alosa: freebsd 8.2 and 8-STABLE are at zfs v15 and 9-CURRENT is at v28, so no
[00:52] <scott__> G_Val, no.  What did you say again?
[00:52] <G_Val> the strange thing is that fdisk can recognize my partition but gparted and live cd partition utility cannot
[00:52] <phux> kdub: i'm from germany, i dont pay for university :)
[00:53] <scott__> Localhost666: I believe so
[00:53] <phux> abstrakt: as i said: thank you, its on my list now :)
[00:53] <s33kr> hi all
[00:53] <CobZo> alosa: but v28 will be backported to 8-STABLE and will probably appear in freebsd 8.3
[00:53] <kdub> phux: oktoberfest!
[00:53] <abstrakt> phux, cool
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> phux: whaaaaat!!! i'm movin now!
[00:53] <abstrakt> phux, you know about rvm right?
[00:53] <gnosis> phux: haha, i hate when profs do shit like that
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> phux: whats the catch? of no uni fees
[00:54] <gnosis> my freshman cs courses taught scheme, ocaml, and java
[00:54] <G_Val> scott__: i have a problem with boot linux os, this happen only after i restored a table-partition which was accidentally deleted with testdisk !
[00:54] <gnosis> ocaml is shit, absolute shit
[00:54] <phux> kdub: im not into that, i come from the other side (north) of germany...we dont like bavarians...
[00:55] <G_Val> scott__: i tried all, grub, reinstall drivers but nothing happen, so i used gparted from livecd and i tried to restore my file system ! but it gives me an error
[00:55] <kdub> aeon-ltd: high income tax is the catch (at least in bavaria)
[00:55] <G_Val> scott__:fdisk recognize my partition as you can see here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594267/ but gparted and utility for creating partition integrated in live cd doesn't work
[00:55] <phux> abstrakt: no, excepting you mean revisioning control management (like git)
[00:56] <aeon-ltd> kdub: work in france... :)
[00:56] <phux> aeon-ltd: no catch...
[00:56] <acicula> its full of french :/
[00:56] <abstrakt> phux, http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/ use it, enjoy, rinse, repeat
[00:56] <edbian> G_Val: What do you mean it 'doesn't work'  does the partition even show up?
[00:56] <G_Val> scott__: i don't want format my hd cause i have an additional OS !
[00:57] <G_Val> exactly i cannot see partition
[00:57] <G_Val> edbian: i cannot see them, and i can't reinstall only linux os
[00:57] <aeon-ltd> phux: best country ever.
[00:57] <phux> aeon-ltd: well, you gotta pay 300$ per semester but you're getting a metro ticket for that, too
[00:58] <aeon-ltd> phux: thats still good, learn some german, get a degree, lifestyle change. meh esp with high amount of places to rent :)
[00:58] <G_Val> edbian: so i tried to restore file system but it gives me an error
[00:58] <edbian> G_Val: In the upper right hand corner is a hard drive selector thingy.  Are you looking at the right hdd ?
[00:58] <G_Val> edbian: yes man as you can see i have only 2 hd
[00:59] <G_Val> edbian: sda is ehre my linnux and win os are located
[00:59] <edbian> G_Val: screen shot me what gparted sees on the harddrive you're trying to edit.  Can you do that?
[00:59] <G_Val> edbian: is where*
[00:59] <edbian> G_Val: I see that.
[00:59] <G_Val> sure but is quite easy ! it says unallocated space xD
[01:00] <G_Val> edbian: sure but is quite easy ! it says unallocated space xD
[01:00] <edbian> G_Val: no picture then.  What does the other drive show in gparted?
[01:00] <gnosis> phux: *jealousy*  college is fucking expensive in the US
[01:00] <phux> aeon-ltd: what would you say if i tell you that you also get up to 700$ each month(depending on your parents' income) and you gotta pay back at most the half? :P
[01:01] <G_Val> edbian: the secnd one could be recognized and works greatly
[01:02] <G_Val> edbian: only  the first one cannot be seen idk why
[01:02] <edbian> G_Val: I think the partition table is messed up.  I'm not really sure.  You should use dd to make a backup or something right now
[01:02] <edbian> G_Val: wait
[01:02] <gnosis> phux: my ex-g/f has >$100k in school loans
[01:02] <phux> gnosis: yeah, i think it's not the best idea to reserve the education for the better earning families
[01:02] <aeon-ltd> phux: ok there is something seriously wrong with all the other countries in the world, except netherlands & germany
[01:02] <edbian> !ot
[01:03] <aeon-ltd> edbian: sorry i'll go there now
[01:03] <edbian> aeon-ltd: no worries! :)
[01:03] <s33kr> any server for random help about linux?
[01:03] <edbian> I just wanna talk about Ubuntu
[01:03] <edbian> s33kr: There is a linux channel on this server I believe
[01:03] <Paddy_NI> s33kr: ##linux perhaps
[01:03] <G_Val> edbian: man i check my data on the first HD and there is no issue with that ! Maybe if i can reinstall only the os i am so happy, or i can back up my data from old partition and "paste" on the new one ! A secure backup is appreciated also
[01:04] <phux> abstrakt: yes, but as im still in a single "development" environment, ill put it at the bottom of my list
[01:04] <Technicus> Hello . . . how do I find the title of a window?  I am trying to embed konsole on a Gnome desktop.  This is the tutirial I am following: [ http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/ubuntu-embed-terminal-into-you-desktop.html ].  For it to work I need to know the title of the konsole window that opens.
[01:04] <edbian> G_Val: I think if you partition again with gparted there will be no issue (besides your data being erased).  What initially caused this problem?
[01:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi
[01:04] <edbian> Technicus: The 'title' is what shows up in the title bar (next to the x + and -)
[01:05] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: hello :)
[01:05] <KINGOFSWORDS> i have no titlebar on my windwows....is there anyway of sorting this out without restarting compiz?
[01:05] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi edbian
[01:05] <G_Val> edbian: i accidentally deleted original patition-table with testdisk...but i immediately restored it
[01:05] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: go to tty1, run this: compiz --replace&, switch back to graphics
[01:05] <KINGOFSWORDS> is ttyl a cmd or program?
[01:05] <edbian> G_Val: That is probably what gparted is freaking about.  Perhaps it isn't restored or it isn't restored correctly
[01:06] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: press ctrl + alt + F1 to switch to it.  It's a virtual terminal.
[01:06] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: you can switch back by ctrl + alt + F7  (graphical)
[01:06] <G_Val> !time
[01:06] <matsur> acicula: got it! iptables -I INPUT 3 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 9999 --sport 80 -j ACCEPT just needed to add the sport
[01:07] <G_Val> edbian: so should i reinstall all ?
[01:07] <acicula> matsur: using DNAT or REDIRECT?
[01:07] <edbian> G_Val: If you can.  I"m in over my head now
[01:07] <matsur> REDIRECT
[01:07] <KINGOFSWORDS> ctrl alt F1 just goes to black screen
[01:07] <jzacsh_> anyone know how to get (or what its called ) smjs (or the spidermonkey javascript shell) in ubuntu?
[01:07] <jzacsh_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/smjs.1.html
[01:07] <G_Val> edbian: how long are u here ?
[01:07] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: press enter on that screen. There should be a thing to log in.
[01:07] <edbian> G_Val: what do you mean?
[01:07] <KINGOFSWORDS> nah theres nothing there ...just a bit of static at top of screen
[01:08] <G_Val> edbian: is there a way to not reinstall all programs after formatting ? something to restore all from old partition's data
[01:08] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: Can you press alt + F2 to launch a command window thingy
[01:08] <matsur> acicula: a little odd... everything i can find online seems to suggest redirect puts stuff onto loopback, but i have a catch all accept everything on lo rule as rule 1 in INPUT and it was not working
[01:08] <G_Val> edbian: i mean today
[01:08] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: I'm betting since you don't have borders that you can't just open a terminal or we'd use that
[01:08] <hiexpo> command window thingy     hehe
[01:09] <KINGOFSWORDS> ctrl alt f2 is messed up too
[01:09] <KINGOFSWORDS> but normal terminal is okk
[01:09] <edbian> G_Val: You can use dd to copy from the entire partition to a folder or another partition. (make a backup)  Then partition the disk and put the copies into those partitions.
[01:09] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: ok great.  Can you type in the normal terminal?
[01:09] <mr0wl> Is GNOME 3 available on Natty?
[01:09] <edbian> hiexpo: :)
[01:09] <KINGOFSWORDS> edbiian just ran ur cmd in normal terminal and worked great ty
[01:10] <acicula> matsur: yeah, all this does is a more precise match, so dunno
[01:10] <edbian> mr0wl: natty is going to use unity instead of gnome3  (but they are similar)
[01:10] <G_Val> edbian: ok but what about my win os ?
[01:10] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: glad I could help
[01:10] <KINGOFSWORDS> is ctrl alt f1 or f2 the terminal outside of the gui?
[01:10] <edbian> G_Val: You can do the same thing
[01:10] <acicula> mr0wl: nope, there are ppa's though
[01:10] <KINGOFSWORDS> is it a problem that it doesnt work? maybe a graphics driver issue
[01:10] <G_Val> edbian: so many data
[01:10] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: Yes.  There should be 6 virtual terminals on F1 through F6 (F7 is graphical)
[01:10] <G_Val> edbian: soo *
[01:10] <KINGOFSWORDS> would update sort that out?
[01:11] <G_Val> edbian: soo i have to reinstall all O__O
[01:11] <mr0wl> The PPAs are for Natty only?
[01:11] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: Sometimes the graphics driver chops it off though.  Try using the auto -thingy on the monitor
[01:11] <matsur> acicula: this does a more precise match on 9999 input... previously 9999 was open and connectable, now it appears closed. thats all i was going for, the redirect worked fine before
[01:11] <edbian> G_Val: I know.  That's the problem
[01:11] <acicula> mr0wl: no
[01:11] <edbian> G_Val: You don't have to reinstall.  YOu just have to partition
[01:11] <KINGOFSWORDS> auto thingy?
[01:11] <G_Val> edbian: i cannot restore only windows partition table and install onòly linux ? i mean from testdisk
[01:11] <KINGOFSWORDS> oh its laptop
[01:11] <acicula> matsur: ah ok
[01:11] <mr0wl> K gonna try it out.
[01:11] <KINGOFSWORDS> no auto tune
[01:11] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: Oh, then nevermind the laptop monitor probably doesn't have the auto-thingy
[01:11] <mr0wl> Thanks
[01:11] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh
[01:12] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: I'm not sure why TTY1 isn't working
[01:12] <hiexpo> you needto open that thingy and type out that thangy     omg
[01:12] <KNUBBIG> Hi, I booted back into the live cd and tried cfdisk which doesnt work and gparted which again tells me wrong partitions. Any ideas
[01:12] <edbian> haha
[01:12] <acicula> mr0wl: best follow up in #ubuntu+1, its meant for natty. Also make sure you know how to undo the changes you make as you may runinto some problems
[01:12] <edbian> words words words
[01:12] <KINGOFSWORDS> ive been in the non gui b4 but think it was on karmic
[01:12] <swatto> Anyone know how to map the windows key to open terminal? Tried adding through keyboard shortcuts but it wont let me use it?
[01:12] <mr0wl> Ok, will do.
[01:12] <G_Val> edbian: did u understand what i mean ?
[01:13] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: All versions should have it.  Strange that it isn't working
[01:13] <edbian> G_Val: no, rephrase it please
[01:13] <G_Val> edbian: i cannot restore only windows partition table and install onòly linux ? i mean from testdisk
[01:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> i had real bad problems installing graphics driver so think that has coused a comflict or s'thing
[01:13] <hiexpo> KINGOFSWORDS, is becoming aregular customer here   :)
[01:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> btw is it possible to downgrade wine?
[01:14] <hiexpo> !downgrade
[01:14] <KINGOFSWORDS> lol true...this is my linux school =)
[01:14] <edbian> G_Val: Not exactly re-phrased but.  There is 1 partition table for each harddrive.  Not for each partition or each OS.  It sounds to me like the partition table for that harddrive is messed up or wrong which is why gparted can't see the partitions but fdisk can
[01:14] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: That is very likely to have caused the problem yes
[01:14] <alosa> CobZo http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/
[01:14] <Ben64> KINGOFSWORDS: open synaptic, find wine, and it will let you choose version
[01:14] <KINGOFSWORDS> no not downgraded wine yet....
[01:15] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: uninstall wine.  Then use synaptic to force install an old version
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> G_Val, what is your prob? Sounds similar to mine
[01:15] <edbian> (it is possible)
[01:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i stupdily dled wine 1.3
[01:15] <G_Val> edbian: yes maybe i can restore the partition table by deleting linux from that
[01:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> or the newest ver
[01:15] <Ben64> KINGOFSWORDS: whats wrong with 1.3?
[01:15] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: You shouldn't be downloading anything.  use the wine that is in the repos
[01:15] <hiexpo> or compile it yourself is better
[01:15] <G_Val> KNUBBIG: which one ? i can open a blog called "the issues of ubuntu"
[01:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> will i lose my programs thou if i uninstall or downgrade?
[01:15] <edbian> G_Val: IDK man.  You can try.  I don't know how to manually edit the partition table of a hdd
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> G_Val, ;d, the one with the partitions
[01:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> sorry yeh i used synaptic to dl
[01:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> Ben64 isnt 1.3 a beta/testing ver
[01:16] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: I am pretty sure you can remove wine.  You shouldn't lose the programs because they aren't part of hte package
[01:16] <G_Val> KNUBBIG: uhm i cannot boot linux os cause i accidentally deleted a partition-table but i restored immediately
[01:16] <Ben64> KINGOFSWORDS: its development yeah, but it works fine
[01:16] <G_Val> KNUBBIG: Strangest thing never happen : windows os works great linux doesn't
[01:16] <maguey_> What shall modif in my ~/.screenrc in order to be able to open X apps
[01:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> wine 1.3 kinda hangs and the GUI messes up s'times
[01:17] <swatto> I have added a program to the Startup Applications list but i do not have an autorun directory in my home folder?
[01:17] <G_Val> edbian: i will try in this way i cannot delete windows data i have no enough space
[01:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> it might be the same in a lower ver thou
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> G_Val, okay, my windows also detects partitions correctly and Ubuntu doesnt
[01:17] <edbian> G_Val: ok?
[01:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> gta san andreas plays great in it thou..so shouldnt complain
[01:17] <G_Val> KNUBBIG: only fdisk recognize them
[01:18] <KNUBBIG> G_Val, my fdisk partly recognises them, but not completely correct
[01:18] <G_Val> edbian: ok ehat man sorry ? i am in over my head also
[01:18] <KNUBBIG> I cant even install Ubuntu :(
[01:18] <G_Val> edbian: i am trying t find solution by 4 days
[01:18] <edbian> G_Val: yeah.  I can't offer advice about what to do :(
[01:18] <edbian> G_Val: ouch.  Sorry to hear that
[01:18] <hiexpo> dev is always better i think but one reason ubuntu don't use dev's is cause the chance of problems and support and ubuntu is aimed at helpingnew users from microft to llinux
[01:19] <G_Val> KNUBBIG:  yes but before worked great
[01:19] <edbian> KNUBBIG: what is stopping you?
[01:19] <G_Val> edbian: don't worry is normal for teenagers xD
[01:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> edbian ; got this in terminal after ur cmd [1] 2061
[01:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> ,: command not found
[01:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> james@ubuntu:~$ compiz (cube) - Warn: Failed to load slide: /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/ubuntu.png
[01:19] <ssmmdd> Hi, I can't get Ubuntu to start from CD or Install onto my system as it can't seem to find or connect to my SATA RAID Array. Is there anything I can do? Asus Motherboard with an Nvidia Chipset.
[01:20] <KNUBBIG> edbian, neither fdisk nor gparted detect the right partitions, Im running a fake raid and somehow Ubuntu tries to detect the partitions on the first member disk of the array which is kinda stupid
[01:20] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: On the top and bottom of the cube are pictures.  There is a setting to point to what file to use for that picture.  The error is saying that that file does not exist.
[01:20] <edbian> KNUBBIG: Mmmm, Ubuntu with raids.  I have no experience with that :(
[01:20] <terje_> q/bye
[01:20] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah ..so its just because i changed the picture then moved/deleted png?
[01:21] <KNUBBIG> edbian, :( I thought I had, had the same setup with a similar onboard controller running on my old comp :(
[01:21] <edbian> KNUBBIG: :(
[01:21] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: yes probably
[01:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> cool thank you very much
[01:21] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, is there any error message?
[01:22] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: because you ran compiz in the terminal you will see all sorts of errors.  Most of them can probably be ignored.
[01:22] <G_Val> edbian: what is DD ?
[01:22] <edbian> G_Val: It's a command in the terminal.  It converts and copies things.  look at man dd
[01:23] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Running from CD: No, it just freezes. When trying to install, it asks if SATA RAID should be activated, I say yes, but then shows no partitions. I should mention it's RAID 5 and NTFS.
[01:23] <G_Val> edbian: ok i will thanks anyway man !
[01:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i seen the same one the other day...remember getting a logo or s'thing on top of cube
[01:23] <MK`> I want to connect to a "Microsoft XPS Document Writer", which printer driver do I select? Generic?
[01:24] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: And Windows is already Installed (but don't want to use the Windows Install Version.
[01:24] <a3Deb> Where's the trash
[01:24] <s33kr> hi
[01:24] <oscargot>  a3Deb: The trash bin?
[01:24] <a3Deb> ya
[01:25] <a3Deb> i think it's goine
[01:25] <a3Deb> gone*
[01:25] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, okay so Ive got no idea, sorry, I also cant get Ubuntu to detect my correct disk layout on my RAID
[01:25] <oscargot> a3Deb: are you in Ubuntu? Did you change anythin/
[01:25] <PW-toXic> hi, my samba server doesnt work anymore.. can someone give me a hint how i can debug it?
[01:25] <a3Deb> i'm on backtrack
[01:25] <a3Deb> which is like ubuntu
[01:25] <ssmmdd> Hmmm, bugger. No one from Ubuntu support atm?
[01:25] <ssmmdd> + around
[01:26] <edbian> ssmmdd: we're here
[01:26] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: What Motherboard, what Chipset?
[01:26] <edbian> a3Deb: Then we can't help :(
[01:26] <ssmmdd> Ah, okay edbian. :)
[01:26] <edbian> a3Deb: This is Ubuntu support
[01:26] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, ASUS P8P67  Pro, Intel Controller
[01:26] <a3Deb> backtrack is ubuntu
[01:27] <Ben64> no, ubuntu is ubuntu
[01:27] <genii-around> !backtrack
[01:27] <edbian> a3Deb: They are similar but not the same
[01:27] <ssmmdd> Hmmmm, Ubuntu must not like 3rd party RAID Controllers, do you know if yours is Hardware or Software RAID?
[01:27] <a3Deb> well this sucks...
[01:27] <xiamx> Is there anyway to control the bandwidth and speed of a openvpn client?
[01:27] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, software afaik
[01:27] <edbian> a3Deb: Go to the backtrack channel
[01:27] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Hmmmm, Ubuntu must not like 3rd party RAID Controllers, do you know if yours is Hardware or Software RAID?
[01:27] <KINGOFSWORDS> any1 heard of plymouth for ubuntu?
[01:27] <a3Deb> i thought backtrack was ubuntu except with "hacker" files
[01:28] <ssmmdd> Hmmmm, mine's Hardware.
[01:28] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: I've heard of it.  Make splash screens during boot
[01:28] <ssmmdd> What RAID, KNUBBIG? 0? 1?
[01:28] <edbian> a3Deb: I'm not sure of the exact differences.  They are similar though
[01:28] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, 1
[01:28] <a3Deb> so join #backtrack
[01:28] <ssmmdd> I can never remember if that's Backup or Speed...
[01:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> oh ok i thought it says it will sort out my virtual terminal and glx problem
[01:28] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, speed
[01:28] <ssmmdd> Ah. Ta. :)
[01:28] <a3Deb> thanks guys
[01:28] <ssmmdd> 5 is both.
[01:29] <ssmmdd> But you need 3+ HDDs.
[01:29] <KNUBBIG> np :), yup but
[01:29] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: Not that I know of but possibly
[01:29] <KNUBBIG> yes :D
[01:29] <ssmmdd> Expense ++
[01:29] <ssmmdd> Anyway, hopefully someone can help us soon. :)
[01:29] <arch_is_awesome> Hello, I was wondering: If I get the 11.04 beta will it upgrade to stable once it comes out?
[01:30] <arch_is_awesome> Or will it be a mess?
[01:30] <KNUBBIG> I hope so, the last idea I got was to remake all partitions so the partition table might be fixed, but thats not guaranteed
[01:30] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: yes
[01:30] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: (it might be a mess)
[01:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> is it ok 2 update grub?
[01:31] <arch_is_awesome> Okay, thanks. edbian: Do you have nightlies?
[01:31] <yock> Should I be able to upgrade to the Natty beta from Maverick in the Update Manager?
[01:31] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Nah, I was assuming it would see the partitions and you could just install it next to Windows.
[01:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> will it affect anything
[01:31] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: Do I have nightlies?
[01:31] <arch_is_awesome> Does ubuntu?
[01:31] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, that was true for my old PC, but somehow it isnt for the new one
[01:31] <edbian> yock: not unless you do update-manager -d in the term
[01:31] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: I don't know...
[01:31] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: You have Windows Intalled?
[01:31] <arch_is_awesome> Nightly builds..
[01:31] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: Ubuntu is not arch ;)
[01:31] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, zes
[01:31] <arch_is_awesome> haha
[01:31] <KNUBBIG> yes, damn kb layout
[01:32] <arch_is_awesome> Okay then bye
[01:32] <edbian> hahaha
[01:32] <ssmmdd> Version? HDD Formatting type?
[01:32] <edbian> arch_is_awesome should just use arch!
[01:32] <MK`> I want to connect to a "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" on my network, which printer driver do I select? Generic?
[01:32] <patr> hi on ubuntu 10.10 2006 comp
[01:32] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, Win 7, what do you mean with formatting type?
[01:32] <yock> edbian: Thanks!
[01:32] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: FAT32? NTFS?
[01:32] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, NTFS
[01:32] <patr> idk
[01:32] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:33] <edbian> yock: no problem  (it worked ?)
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, 64
[01:33] <ssmmdd> Hmmm.
[01:33] <yock> edbian: Yep. Updating now.
[01:33] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Wonder if it's something to do with Win 64 bit / NTFS?
[01:33] <patr> try virtual box have a win7 cd right?
[01:33] <edbian> yock: Hope you like it!!!
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, dont think so, had that on my old pc, too
[01:33] <ssmmdd> Ah, okay.
[01:34] <diego_> #tupa
[01:34] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Must simply be that it doesn't like our RAID Controllers without special Drivers.
[01:34] <patr> if your runing 32 bit  you cant run 64bit
[01:34] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, true :)
[01:34] <patr> win 7-vista only can take ntfs
[01:34] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: I know Windows has a mode so you can pre-load specially needed Drivers during Install.
[01:34] <arch_is_awesome> edibuntu: Ubuntu calls them daily instead of nightly.
[01:34] <edbian> patr: but Ubuntu can read ntfs
[01:34] <arch_is_awesome> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:34] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Not sure if Ubuntu does it too.
[01:34] <patr> xp or win2k  cna take fat 32
[01:34] <edbian> patr: but Ubuntu can read/write* ntfs
[01:35] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: there ya go
[01:35] <arch_is_awesome> Thanks
[01:35] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: You should just use arch :)
[01:35] <arch_is_awesome> Arch is messy
[01:35] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, mh, no idea too, but it detects _some_ partitions on my RAID, but not all ...
[01:35] <patr> i know just saying
[01:35] <ssmmdd> edbian: Any idea with mine & KNUBBIG's problem?
[01:35] <edbian> ssmmdd: no clue
[01:35] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Lucky, I get none at all.
[01:35] <edbian> ssmmdd: :(
[01:35] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: arch is awesome
[01:35] <patr> what is a rsid card?
[01:36] <patr> raid card
[01:36] <ssmmdd> edbian: Okay, no problem, should I post the problem on a forum or does Ubuntu have some sort of support centre?
[01:36] <arch_is_awesome> I actually like arch! Yet, Ubuntu is good. I am not a fanboy of any distro: quadruple booting Arch, Chakra, Ubuntu, and Fedora
[01:36] <bruenig> arch is not messy, it is super clean
[01:36] <patr> what is a raid card?
[01:36] <edbian> patr: raid lets you connect multiple hdds into cool configurations like automatic backup or striping to improve performance
[01:36] <arch_is_awesome> Two are arch based!
[01:36] <ssmmdd> eddyarif: Christ you type fast!
[01:36] <edbian> ssmmdd: You're in the support center.  A forum post is a great idea.
[01:36] <ssmmdd> edbian *
[01:37] <edbian> ssmmdd: but first search google
[01:37] <ssmmdd> Good idea.
[01:37]  * ssmmdd slaps Google.
[01:37] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: If I find anything, I'll poke you.
[01:37] <edbian> arch_is_awesome: what is chakra  ?
[01:37] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, thanks
[01:37] <diego_> #tupa
[01:37] <patr> wow how can a pc have a raid do it need to be a server like desktop
[01:37] <edbian> ssmmdd: I type fast?
[01:37] <arch_is_awesome> An arch-based live usb/cd with KDE
[01:37] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Am I okay to PM? This Channel's pretty busy.
[01:37] <arch_is_awesome> chakra-project.org
[01:37] <ssmmdd> edbian: You seem to, yes.
[01:37] <KINGOFSWORDS> how do i creade a file?
[01:37] <bruenig> arch and chakra are the same thing
[01:38] <edbian> patr: It needs to either have a card (hardware raid) or support in the motherboard or the OS can do it.
[01:38] <edbian> ssmmdd: Thanks :)
[01:38] <diego_> \join #tupa
[01:38] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: what type of file?
[01:38] <KNUBBIG> ssmmdd, of course, thanks
[01:38] <arch_is_awesome> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=chakra
[01:38] <KINGOFSWORDS> dunno it just says create one for /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-fix.conf:
[01:38] <arch_is_awesome> well bye
[01:38] <edbian> patr: If the OS does it I believe it's called a software raid.  I"m not sure.  There may be another type of software raid.
[01:38] <arch_is_awesome> \quit
[01:38] <arch_is_awesome> oops
[01:38] <ssmmdd> KNUBBIG: Okay, I'll give Google a good kicking.
[01:38] <patr> macpro has that option how many drives can it support think 4
[01:39] <KINGOFSWORDS> oh guess conf file then:s
[01:39] <KNUBBIG> thanks
[01:39] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: that's a text file.  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-fix.conf
[01:39] <patr> installing wifi drivers lol
[01:39] <edbian> patr: That's a software raid
[01:39] <KINGOFSWORDS> great thx
[01:39] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: no problem
[01:39] <patr> get ati its better
[01:40] <patr> nivida is for intel wawa
[01:40] <edbian> patr: nvidia is owned by intel
[01:40] <patr> sdd support in linux 10.10
[01:41] <CCNY> howdy guys, I'm working on a 'buntu meerkat server, I'm trying to setup a server that will handle both linux and windows logins, but the server has to get its accounts from a network-wide windows domain controller... any ideas?
[01:41] <patr> what!
[01:41] <HyperShock> edbian: What?! Since when did that happen?
[01:41] <patr> how can ati interfer with intel boards
[01:41] <PW-toXic_> Can someone tell me how i can make samba listen to all interfaces?
[01:41] <Eighteens> Ok, this ip comes back to amazon.com why would they be trying to hack into my box, `Apr 14 13:47:35 ubuntudesktop kernel: [22256.409617] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:14:2a:c9:c9:39:00:22:3f:c6:68:f5:08:00 SRC=72.21.206.84`
[01:42] <edbian> HyperShock: Ohh maybe I'm wrong?  AMD owns ATI
[01:42] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[01:42] <HyperShock> PW-toXic_: goto chan #samba
[01:42] <CCNY> AMD does own ATI
[01:42] <HyperShock> edbian: yes, amd owns ati, but nvidia is still their own cool rocking selves. :)
[01:42] <edbian> HyperShock: Thanks for calling me out!
[01:42] <gnosis> Eighteens: why do you think they're trying to hack you?
[01:43]  * HyperShock gives edbian a cookie and a correct time out.
[01:43] <Eighteens> all these wierd things in kern.log
[01:43] <edbian> Eighteens: That's called a script kiddy.  The IP is probably spoofed
[01:43] <patr> CCNY: yeah thats right
[01:43] <qbex> O q é isso?
[01:43] <patr> amd rools
[01:43] <gnosis> Eighteens: amazon rents out servers
[01:43] <KNUBBIG> why the hell would apt-get install mdadm install postfix, wtf
[01:44] <Eighteens> edbian: gnosis: ok, thank you for the info
[01:44] <patr> wow you two type fast!
[01:44] <HyperShock> KNUBBIG: have you got some nonstandard repos enabled? that would explain it.
[01:44] <KNUBBIG> HyperShock, no, booting from live cd
[01:44] <edbian> I don't type that fast!!! :(
[01:45] <patr> got to reboot
[01:45] <oscargot> If I have a discrete ATI graphics card and I've activated the use of proprietary drivers, do I get updates for the graphics card automatically or should I download them manually in order to stay up to date?
[01:45] <patr> oem disconecting
[01:46] <HyperShock> KNUBBIG: which live cd?
[01:46] <PW-toXic_> HyperShock, this channel seems to be quite inaktive ;)
[01:46] <rcconf> where is located crontab file?
[01:46] <edbian> oscargot: You got automatic updates.  A version of the proprietary driver is maintained in the fglrx package
[01:46] <CCNY> oscargot: should update by itself
[01:46] <brightspark> I wish I did, but it's my first week on dvorak and sadly I'm not up to speed yet.
[01:46] <Ben64> oscargot: the package will update automatically when necessary, if you do it manually you can break it
[01:47] <oscargot> mmm so many replies >: )
[01:47] <oscargot> CCNY: edbian: Ben64: Thx guys
[01:47] <CCNY> yup.
[01:47] <edbian> oscargot: sure
[01:47] <Ben64> oscargot: np
[01:48] <gnosis> rcconf: under /etc
[01:48] <KNUBBIG> HyperShock, sorry, currently 1104
[01:48] <KNUBBIG> HyperShock, but nvm Ill try another thing to get Ubuntu to install :p brb
[01:49] <rcconf> gnosis: thanks but it doesnt contain my crontab settings
[01:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> do i need to update in update mgr? will it effect my setup?
[01:50] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: how else would you update?
[01:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i keep reading on forums thread where ppl keep getting problems and bugs after updates
[01:51] <rcconf> How do I find an old .deb package
[01:51] <rcconf> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/amd64/ettercap-common/download
[01:51] <rcconf> I dont want the latest version
[01:51] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: people think they cause bugs but I don't think they do as often as people think.  generally updating is a good idea
[01:51] <gnosis> rcconf: sorry, they're actually in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[01:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> will update sort out conflicts and dodgy things ive dome to my os
[01:52] <gnosis> but you shouldn't edit them directly
[01:52] <rcconf> gnosis: i just want to copy
[01:52] <rcconf> :)
[01:52] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: likely they won't make any difference.
[01:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh true alot of time its human error and paranoia that causes problems
[01:52] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: updating is a good idea :)
[01:53] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: It's one of the best features of linux!
[01:53] <KINGOFSWORDS> ur advice has been good so far so ill do it...
[01:53] <gnosis> KINGOFSWORDS: at minimum do the security updates
[01:53] <gnosis> no reason to leave your box vulnerable
[01:53] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: haha.  Thanks.  I've never seen anybody not want to update before!
[01:54] <KINGOFSWORDS> i had issue with kernel obstructing internet connection so was fearful of updating it and grub
[01:54] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: kernels updates are rare.  Plus the old versions are left in the grub menu so you can still use them after an update
[01:55] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[01:55] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[01:55] <KINGOFSWORDS> hopefully sort my virtual KB issue
[01:56] <Jetpack> Hey, I'm looking for a new laptop that will work well on Ubuntu, but also have decent graphics support, for under $1000, anyone have any suggestions?
[01:56] <rogerio> hi
[01:56] <edbian> Jetpack: any of them?  hahaha
[01:56] <rogerio> is Ubuntu 10.10 LSB compliant?
[01:57] <CCNY> jetpack: I've had a lot of luck with HP, but don't go with their bargain-bin computers
[01:57] <rcconf> gnosis: /media/XXX/var/spool/crob/crontabs/USER ;)
[01:57] <rcconf> using root
[01:57] <Jetpack> edbian: I just got a laptop, but it had nVidia Optimus.  Apparently there is no support for it, and most new laptops come with it.
[01:57] <CCNY> I have a nice HP tablet PC that runs nicely
[01:57] <edbian> Jetpack: ahh, I'm not up to date on that.
[01:58] <Jetpack> I meant to include a decent graphics card
[01:58] <rogerio> someone can say me if Ubuntu current stable version 10.10 is LSB compliant?
[01:58] <pfifo> xubuntu 10.10 looks exactly the same as gnome
[01:58] <gnosis> rcconf: ?
[01:59] <rcconf> gnosis: crontab thing.
[01:59] <edbian> pfifo: It uses the same toolkit to draw the gui (gtk)
[01:59] <ziltoid83> hallo
[02:00] <ziltoid83> i has question
[02:00] <pfifo> ok i have a question, I cant sudo, i am in both the sudo and admin and root groups, i have uncommented lines in sudoers, using visudo, done this over 9000 time but this time I cant get it to work.
[02:00] <edbian> pfifo: log out and back in
[02:00] <ziltoid83> can ubuntu's startup disk creator make a bootable usb of puppy linux from an iso?
[02:01] <pfifo> edbian, i did thrice, set a valid hostname, setup a hosts file, natty, i mean notta
[02:01] <edbian> pfifo: Can you pastebin /etc/sudoers for me?
[02:01] <pfifo> yes
[02:01] <gnosis> pfifo: what happens when you try to sudo?
[02:02] <brightspark> rogerio, no.  it uses debs instead of rpms
[02:02] <pfifo> gnosis, it says "pfifo is not in the sudoers file, this incident will be reported'
[02:03] <pfifo> ROOT can use sudo no problem
[02:03] <rogerio> just for this reason?
[02:03] <Ben64> pfifo: root doesn't need to use sudo
[02:03] <rogerio> ok. thanks for answer
[02:03] <pfifo> edbian, http://pastebin.com/Kraq1p7F
[02:04] <pfifo> Ben64, of course, but root cn still run the command, and it works as expected
[02:04] <Ben64> root can run anything with full permissions
[02:04] <rogerio> so Debian, is not LSB compliant too...
[02:04] <Ben64> pfifo: anyway, you need to make sure your user is part of the 'admin' group
[02:04] <edbian> pfifo: is admin a group or a user?
[02:05] <FloatingGoat> yo ubuntu people, where is the unity channel? :D
[02:05] <pfifo> root@pfifo-laptop:/home/pfifo# groups pfifo
[02:05] <pfifo> pfifo : pfifo root sudo audio video admin gdm
[02:05] <brightspark> rogerio, there may be others.  and you are correct about debian
[02:05] <edbian> pfifo: if admin is a group then in /etc/sudoers you need %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:05] <edbian> a percent sign is needed for groups
[02:06] <Ben64> edbian: nice catch, i didn't notice the missing %
[02:06] <edbian> Ben64: :)
[02:06] <edbian> thanks
[02:06] <pfifo> ahh a % edbian i haven't tried it butknow thats it, good catch
[02:06] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:06] <rcconf> I am trying to download ettercap-common_0.7.3-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[02:07] <edbian> pfifo: thanks :)
[02:07] <rcconf> but version before
[02:07] <edbian> glad I could help
[02:07] <Ben64> pfifo: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL <--- thats in my sudoers
[02:07] <FloatingGoat> is there a unity channel?
[02:07] <FloatingGoat> unity channel?
[02:07] <rcconf> How can I download the version before of ettercap-common_0.7.3-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[02:07] <pfifo> edbian, confirmed working, thanks
[02:07] <edbian> pfifo: awesome
[02:08] <pfifo> I have another question, how do i disable the root account after enabling it
[02:08] <edbian> pfifo: ummm, remove it's password I believe
[02:09] <edbian> pfifo: Why did you create a root?  Why did you take pseudo away from yourself?
[02:09] <Ben64> change password to ! in the shadow file
[02:09] <pfifo> edbian, due to the sudo problem, i setup root password for maintence
[02:10] <edbian> pfifo: How did you loose sudo for yourself?
[02:10] <AegisX> Hi guys; I'm looking to make my Ubuntu laptop and Windows 7 desktop work together. This would include synching certain folders, ability to control my Windows box from Linux (is this SSH? I'm not too familiar with networking) and so on. Does anyone have any pointers?
[02:10] <pfifo> edbian, i installed via debootstrap, cause i wanted xubuntu and only have the ubuntu iso on my memory stik
[02:11] <pfifo> edbian, so the never was sudo or pfifo or anything
[02:11] <KM0201> AegisX, syncing folders should be easy, SSH should work your needs, but if you want a "easy" way to do that.. look up "Teamviewer" it has a Linux and Windows version, and will make controlling either desktop from the other, very easy
[02:11] <Ben64> pfifo: make root's line in /etc/shadow similar to mine "root:!:13818:0:99999:7:::"
[02:11] <edbian> pfifo: I see!  fixed now :)
[02:12] <edbian> AegisX: You can set up ssh server on windows but because windows is a GUI based OS it is generally easier to use something like rdesktop
[02:12] <gnosis> AegisX: ssh and samba
[02:12] <MK`> How do I get the Network section to "Refresh"?
[02:13] <pfifo> Ben64, im afarid to edit /etc/shadow, are you sure?
[02:14] <Ben64> pfifo: yeah it's fine
[02:15] <pupy> hello
[02:15] <AegisX> Ah, thanks guys; thats a lot of good info. I'll go do some research!
[02:15] <pupy> what's the file used in ubuntu in replacement of boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:15] <rww> !grub2
[02:15] <pupy> I've got the problem that the windows partition doesn't boot from the menu
[02:16] <CCNY> Hello all, I have a ubuntu server that handles logins for a linux/unix lab.. my campus is moving towards a windows active directory based single-sign-on... is there a way I can get my server to ask the windows servers about user authentication, while still keeping control of the clients?
[02:16] <Oqm> why is wubi installing lucid desktop? O.o
[02:17] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:18] <gnosis> CCNY: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/40983 that may or may not help
[02:18] <AegisX> Oh, also; I can only connect to my Windows shared files by Alt + F2 then typing in the IP address of that machine. Is there any way to make the process easier? Automatically mount it, or anything like that?
[02:19] <oracle_vm> I'm running this command "dd if=/dev/sda |cpipe -vt| dd of=/dev/sdg" it shows the progress of the transfer.. I'm copying to a external usb drive and the speeds seems to be at 8-9MBps ... how can I get faster speeds since I'm copying 250Gb's?
[02:21] <mickster04> AegisX: places>network> ?
[02:21] <AegisX> mickster04: Doesn't work for me unless I do the Alt + F2 thing first
[02:21] <symptom> hello where is syndaemon start up located?
[02:21] <mickster04> oracle_vm: which usb is it? 1.1? 2? 3?
[02:21] <mickster04> AegisX: error messages?
[02:22] <gnosis> AegisX: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/ may or may not help
[02:22] <mickster04> AegisX: you could add a startup script that does it?
[02:22] <AegisX> mickster04: Actually, scratch that. It doesn't work at all. Damn, I didn't read the error message.
[02:22] <swatto> ubuntu is screwed :( please help - my startup apps do not run and I cant start VLC - get socket_bind_error (permission denied) and no suitable interface
[02:22] <symptom> !syndaemon
[02:22] <mickster04> swatto: start up apps? and what about a different program?
[02:22] <AegisX> gnosis: Thanks, I'll try that.
[02:23] <AegisX> mickster04: I'm a complete newbie, really, so I'll take a look at scripting too. Thanks for the tip
[02:23] <Oqm> can the regular cd installation be installed for dual boot with windows as well or just the "windows install"
[02:23] <symptom> hello where is syndaemon start up located?
[02:23] <oracle_vm> mickster04: 2.0 1.5TB extrenal usb drive
[02:23] <CCNY> thanks everyone, have a good night
[02:23] <edbian> Oqm: regular install CDs can set up dual boot. Windows install is installing inside windows filesystem (wihtout partitioning)
[02:24] <swatto> mickster84: yep my startup apps dont run, i want Xchat to start on boot but it doesnt it just dont load and neither does any of my other user defined programs..bluetooth etc all load fine though? Other apps work, VLC did work but now it doesnt for some reason
[02:24] <Oqm> cheers edbian
[02:24] <mickster04> oracle_vm: what speeds are you expecting?
[02:24] <mickster04> swatto: curious, no idea, can you m anually start x-chat? what have you changed recently?
[02:26] <swatto> mickster84: yep i can manually start it - i havent changed anything as far as im aware, ive tried resetting the startup applications back to defaults but has made no difference, im wondering if it is a profile issue?
[02:26] <mickster04> !@tab | swatto
[02:27] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:27] <mickster04> swatto: yeah i dunno...keep asking though...
[02:27] <swatto> ill make a new user and group to see if that solves it
[02:28] <oracle_vm> mickster04: 15-19MBps
[02:29] <mickster04> oracle_vm: is your port 2.0
[02:30] <oracle_vm> mickster04: yes
[02:30] <mickster04> oracle_vm: thee are several things that could be causing it.
[02:30] <mickster04> oracle_vm: an i dunno how to find out what might be the problem
[02:31] <gnosis> oracle_vm: are you transferring lots of small files?
[02:31] <obengdako> oracle_vm, i also believe the pipe is long so just use simple dd though you wont have the progress
[02:31] <oracle_vm> mickster04: somebody just told me it may be becuase it's a sector to sector copy of a drive that it's slower
[02:31] <obengdako> you can monitor file size
[02:31] <oracle_vm> gnosis: no
[02:32] <gnosis> ah, i just looked back at your orig command, nm
[02:32] <obengdako> yes that also account it is a raw copy
[02:32] <mickster04> oracle_vm: oh yeah, so it'll probably be doing lots of checks or whatever which won't help speed much
[02:32] <oracle_vm> obengdako: so raw copies are inherently slower?.. i wouldn;t have thought so for some reason
[02:33] <obengdako> nope they aren't because they are raw but i also was thinking your pipe | made the process too long
[02:34] <firered365> hello
[02:34] <lwizardl> how do i make it so I can compress iso disc images via right click menu ?
[02:34] <oracle_vm> obengdako: I've done dd with much smaller transfer like less than 10Gb ,, I would be antsy about anything larger without any indication of it's prgress
[02:35] <firered365> I need help installing linux on windows Me
[02:35] <obengdako> just a simple dd if=/dev of=/ would do but the piping for progress might slow it down
[02:35] <lwizardl> firered365, umm format the hdd to remove that horrible OS and then start the installer
[02:35] <gnosis> firered365: you're shitting me
[02:36] <firered365> Ok, How do I format the hdd
[02:36] <pfifo> Ben64, editing /etc/shadow created problems
[02:36] <lwizardl> firered365, can your computer boot from cd?
[02:36] <gnosis> firered365: do you seriously have windows ME?
[02:36] <firered365> I tried nothing.
[02:36] <lwizardl> or do you need a boot floppy
[02:37] <obengdako> oracle_vm, do you want to mainttain the file structure? is that why you are dd ing or just want to copy contents
[02:37] <firered365> It has a cd drive
[02:37] <lwizardl> firered365, ok put the cd in and reboot the computer does it boot the cd or go back into windows
[02:37] <aroman> hey, I'm in the laptop market and I'm wondering how Ubuntu/Linux handles systems with dual-graphics systems (i.e Intel HD 3000 and an AMD card in the same laptop). Thanks :)
[02:37] <disorient> i'm trying to launch pureftp with arguments, sudo service pure-ftp --trustedgid 1005 start, what is the right way to do this?
[02:37] <mickster04> firered365: first you go to ubuntu.com and read the instructions
[02:38] <gnosis> firered365: have you downloaded an ubuntu iso?
[02:38] <mickster04> firered365: have you turned your computer on?
[02:38] <firered365> it goes back to windows and yes
[02:38] <oracle_vm> obengdako: a windows hardrive I had messed up 2 years ago so I'm finally getting around to fixing/recovering the damaged partition.. I want to image it first
[02:38] <test> mickster04: Its swatto - im on a test account and its working fine now - can start VLC too
[02:38] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: if you stay away from nvidia you may be fine
[02:38] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: what do you mean?
[02:38] <mickster04> test: so your profiloe is kaput?
[02:38] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: for ati cards there may be a solution with open drivers (same with nvidia if you re lucky)
[02:38] <pfifo> how do i disable notifications, in fact how do i disable EVERYTHING that wants to automatically do anything without my explicitly typing a command on the command line
[02:38] <gnosis> firered365: have you backed up any files you want to keep?
[02:38] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: oh you mean opensource drivers, as opposed to using proprietary ones?
[02:38] <obengdako> okay okay then i guess you have to do the slow dd for 250GB oracle_vm  sorry
[02:39] <test> mickster04: yep looks like it, must have messed about so much thats something is screwed
[02:39] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: I was under the impression they offered inferior performance.
[02:39] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: you may want to have a read at "optimus" technology for nvidia and "switchable graphics" for ati
[02:39] <webroasters> hey guys. how can i get onto a mailing list that sends me an email every time a new release of ubuntu comes out? I've been looking all over for that
[02:39] <test> mickster04: at least its not an OS reinstall
[02:39] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: they may offer inferior performance but they re the only that let you switch
[02:39] <mickster04> aroman: then the easiest solution is to create a new user with admin privalidges and remove the old one imo
[02:39] <webroasters> i know 11.04 is coming soon, and I wanted to get an email when it was ready
[02:39] <firered365> Dont want to back up any files
[02:39] <oracle_vm> obengdako: next time i'll go for internal sata
[02:39] <aroman> mickster04: I think that was a misdirected ping :)
[02:39] <mickster04> webroasters: well just set an email to email you on the 28th?
[02:39] <SP_0taku> Hello I'm having an issue after updating from server 9.04 to 9.10 and have put the problem @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/594299/ thanks ahead for helping out :)
[02:40] <mickster04> aroman: yes ineed
[02:40] <webroasters> lol. funny
[02:40] <mickster04> aroman: i saw your nick and typed it :p
[02:40] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: dual card = integrated card for low demanding stuff, discrete card for high demanding
[02:40] <Ben64> webroasters: the schedule is very consistent
[02:40] <mickster04> test then the easiest solution is to create a new user with admin privalidges and remove the old one imo
[02:40] <gnosis> firered365: go into bios and set cd drive as first boot device
[02:40] <obengdako> oracle_vm, hehehe
[02:40] <webroasters> right i know
[02:40] <firered365> How do i do that
[02:40] <webroasters> but a newsletter or something would be nice
[02:40] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: The switching/optimus system lets the OS decide which card is best for the task at hand, right?
[02:40] <test> mickster04: I need to get some stuff from Home directory though
[02:40] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: like per-application, I thought.
[02:40] <mickster04> webroasters: a newsletter saying what?
[02:40] <gnosis> firered365: reboot, it should say how to go into setup, usually F1 or delete
[02:41] <SP_0taku> issue is with booting.
[02:41] <webroasters> nevermind
[02:41] <mickster04> test: copy /home/user /home/newuser
[02:41] <webroasters> thanks guys
[02:41] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: nvidia offers NO support for linux (only open drivers do)  ati offers open drivers which may in a future (not a far one i suppose) work with linux , if you buy a so called dual card equipped laptop it will have that technology and if you have a nvidia you will only use the intel/amd integrated card (not sure amd has a gma-like product)
[02:41] <firered365> it doesnt say
[02:41] <gnosis> firered365: without knowing your bios i can't give exact instructions, but look for boot menu, boot order, soemthing like that
[02:41] <firered365> Ok what is BIOS
[02:41] <milind> i am trying to change the primary display in ubuntu 10.10 to my external gateway 23 inch monitor. I have a ati radeon hd 6250 graphics card and the ati catalyst does not have an option to choose which display to put as my primary display. What should i do?
[02:41] <test> mickster04: how can i create the swatto account again
[02:42] <pupy> can somebody help me? why wouldn't ubuntu boot windows xp in /dev/sda1?
[02:42] <gnosis> firered365: are you doing this on another comp right now?
[02:42] <firered365> yes
[02:42] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: simple example, you boot up your windows system and open paint, here you re using the integrated card, then you get bored and wanna play lets say crysis? it automatically turns on the discrete one, on linux this isnt widely supported yet, and won't be (seems so) from nvidia anyways
[02:42] <pupy> all I get is a cursor blinking
[02:42] <oracle_vm> obengdako: I just checked the chart on wikipedia for usb,sata and thunderbolt transfer speeds.. i for one can;t wait for thunderbolt in everything..
[02:42] <pupy> well ubuntu...grub2
[02:42] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: In that situation, is there any dual combo that would work with Linux?
[02:43] <gnosis> firered365: when you turn on the computer, before getting to windows, it should show something like "press F1 to enter setup"
[02:43] <milind> i am trying to change the primary display in ubuntu 10.10 to my external gateway 23 inch monitor. I have a ati radeon hd 6250 graphics card and the ati catalyst does not have an option to choose which display to put as my primary display. What should i do?
[02:43] <aroman> Like I'm browsing the web, and then I want to play Nexuiz or something.
[02:43] <firered365> it doesnt say
[02:43] <obengdako> oracle_vm, really i got to check this thunderbolt out myself
[02:43] <firered365> press F1 to start
[02:43] <oracle_vm> obengdako: thunderbolt is 1,250MBps transfer speed..
[02:43] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: nexuiz should work with gma i think, in the last years i been using only those lol
[02:43] <gnosis> firered365: try just continually pressing F1, F2, and delete while it's booting then
[02:43] <oracle_vm> obengdako: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA#Comparison_to_other_buses
[02:43] <gnosis> it should go into a very old looking menu screen
[02:43] <firered365> Ok thanks
[02:44] <obengdako> oracle_vm, gosh that is quite fast i mean really fast
[02:44] <l3aked4uftw> aroman:  i dont get your first statement, are you buying a laptop or you sell them?
[02:44] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: I'm buying :)
[02:45] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: in that case may i ask you what you want to do with it?
[02:45] <aroman> and I only have use for Linux, so I want to make sure the hardware works as cleanly as possible with it.
[02:45] <milind> i am trying to change the primary display in ubuntu 10.10 to my external gateway 23 inch monitor. I have a ati radeon hd 6250 graphics card and the ati catalyst does not have an option to choose which display to put as my primary display. What should i do?
[02:45] <mickster04> gnosis: you have patience :D
[02:45] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: coding and schoolwork.
[02:46] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: most gma (except 950 or 500 i forgot which one, but very old one) work out of the box with latest versions of ubuntu, nothing required
[02:46] <pfifo> how can I spin down my SSD drive to save power?
[02:46] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: that means no heavy gaming or uber-hd video in flash or some cpu killer plugin?
[02:46] <aroman> pfifo: LOL
[02:46] <pfifo> aroman, S.M.A.R.T. is trolling me
[02:46] <gnosis> mickster04: i'm in shock.  can't believe someone still has a computer with winME
[02:46] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: I'm sure i'll be using Flash, and I'd like to be able to play 1080p video and stuff
[02:47] <aroman> i"m not looking to do video editing or playing serious games on it
[02:47] <dotblank> One time I was like.. WinME is so old.. it will run so fast on my computer...
[02:47] <mickster04> pfifo: you're funny :D
[02:47] <aroman> pfifo: haha
[02:47] <dotblank> couldn't be more wrong
[02:47] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: if you like i may hint you with something, like model what to search and so on
[02:47] <mickster04> gnosis: i wonder how he heard of ubuntu? telegram?
[02:47] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: sure
[02:47] <pfifo> SMART error 'device is being used outside of design parameters'
[02:47] <camelot> anyone here knows how to successfully install and run fallout 3? i installed it the way wine forums said and it just wont run because it says cdrom not found...even though it's the original disc. i even tried no cd crack!
[02:48] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: omg im lagging like crazy tonight, if i disconnect dont fear, i should be back lol
[02:48] <mickster04> pfifo: well it aint a tea-cosy
[02:48] <gnosis> mickster04: pony express
[02:48] <mickster04> camelot: investigate playonlinux
[02:48] <dotblank> !appdb
[02:48] <camelot> i have, i went back and forth on it
[02:48] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: well in the first place  what is your current value and budget?
[02:48] <camelot> #winehq
[02:48] <camelot> ?
[02:48] <l3aked4uftw> aroman : and what brand you like?
[02:48] <Jetpack> Hey, I'm looking for a new laptop that will work well on Ubuntu, but also have a decent graphics card, for under $1000, anyone have any suggestions?
[02:49] <dotblank> Jetpack, I think ubuntu keeps a list of certified hardware
[02:49] <dotblank> !hcl
[02:49] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: I'd really like it to be no more expensive than $1000. I don't particularly care about brands so long as it's reliable and trustworthy.
[02:49] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: you live in the usa?
[02:49] <aroman> yes
[02:50] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: dell is supposed to be the only that sells you their repair guy , want to start with them?
[02:50] <test> how do i fully delete an account and associated group and remove all config files
[02:51] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: sure I guess
[02:51] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: i said that because you said "reliable and trustworthy" lol
[02:51] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: again if im slow replying im probably lagginglol
[02:51] <mickster04> !opinion | Jetpack
[02:51] <ShapeShifter499> help!!!!!!!!!!    I need help with data disaster recovery...    I was using the latest stable ubuntu live cd (10.10) and ran gparted to resize my partition so I could install windows again, problem is the live cd system crashed before gparted could finish.... now my partition is a mess and I can't boot into it, I just get to ubuntu loading then checking the system for errors, and no farther... any chances of recovering my data
[02:51] <ShapeShifter499> from this comp?   (I am currently on another computer atm btw)
[02:51] <nietoyface> Hello People!!!
[02:51] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: lol
[02:51] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: have you tried mounting the hdd in a live session?
[02:52] <bob__> you can get systems (or parts) for far less than $1000 from directron.com
[02:52] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: any preference for screen? 10 15 17 29310921039 inches?
[02:52] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, ya
[02:52] <aroman> 15 :)
[02:52] <ShapeShifter499> nothing
[02:52] <mickster04> !opinon | bob__
[02:52] <mickster04> !opinion | bob__
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  thers a few laptop  review sites, I found one that listed all avail video chipsets out for laptops ranked from 'high to low' I basically printed out the list of video cards avail. and went shopping for whatever had the  highest ranked nvidia gpu. that was in my price range.  ($1000)
[02:52] <nietoyface> ShapeShifter499: you can mount the partition in cd live!!!
[02:52] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: what do you mean nothing?
[02:53] <ShapeShifter499> nietoyface, no
[02:53] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: rock solid enterprise pc (you may have to contact their agents to buy though) with all the stuff you may want (even fingerprint reader which idk if will work with linux) or simple performing home one?
[02:53] <ShapeShifter499> nietoyface, it trys then errors
[02:53] <Jetpack> Dr_Willis, that sounds great, any idea which site it was?
[02:53] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: and what errors might they be?
[02:53] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: just a home one lol
[02:53] <mickster04> !rescue | ShapeShifter499
[02:53] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: differences      "enterprise" the tech will even kiss ur feet     "home" he'll go "you re a home user u suck" but will fix ur pc
[02:53] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: okie dokie on it
[02:53] <pfifo> hi Dr_Willis nice to see you again
[02:54] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, oh ok
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  http://www.notebookcheck.net
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  to be honest with you - I dont see the point for most people tio get a 1000$ laptop. Unless you need a 'gaming laptop'
[02:55] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: omg in the usa configuration is different, give me a minute please :D
[02:56] <Jetpack> Dr_Willis: I was mainly just specifying a price range, I'll take nearly anything that's not an integrated card
[02:56] <a3Deb> how do i make a script that will link to a directory?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  i got the laptop thta had the highest class nvidia card, that just happened to be in my range. on sale :)
[02:57] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: ok i highly suggest we go for arrandale processors (old gen) which are supposed to be working rather than sandy bridge which may be fairly new and untested, is that fine?
[02:57] <a3Deb> i want it to double click and bam, there's the directory
[02:57] <SP_0taku> My issue was most likely the Grub.conf not matching the new kernel
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-335M.24060.0.html    See tje 'class 1' list at the right side. I just looked at that list when shopping.
[02:57] <SP_0taku> Bye Bye ^_^
[02:58] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, nietoyface omg yay... I just tried to mount via live cd and it mounted
[02:58] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: copy and paste :D
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Jetpack:  one Nice feature about the laptop i got was it had 2 Hard drives. :) One for Linux, one for windows.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> bbl ya all.
[02:58] <a3Deb> anyone know how to make scripts/
[02:58] <gnosis> a3Deb: that's not very clear.  can you explain what you want it to do?
[02:59] <a3Deb> i want it to open a window to a director
[02:59] <camelot> yeah ubottu i did exactly to the T what wine help section on fallout 3 told me to do, and nothing! it keeps saying no cdrom found.
[02:59] <Jetpack> Dr_Willis, thanks. :D
[02:59] <a3Deb> directory*
[02:59] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, hey if I can mount... why can't I boot into it??
[02:59] <mickster04> camelot: ubottu is a bot,
[02:59] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: you broke the mbr
[02:59] <gnosis> a3Deb: so you just want a shortcut to a directory?
[02:59] <a3Deb> yeah
[03:00] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: you can try and fix it using a recorevy
[03:00] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, no I still run grub
[03:00] <a3Deb> shortcut with a custom icon
[03:00] <camelot> oh
[03:00] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: well maybe the kernel is broken
[03:00] <camelot> jokes on me
[03:00] <gnosis> a3Deb: right click, make link
[03:00] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: it could be many thing
[03:00] <mickster04> s
[03:00] <camelot> nyways
[03:00] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: eitherway back up then try to boot again
[03:00] <mickster04> then try a fix
[03:00] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, I was resizing the affected patition when the live cd crashed before grub did its thing
[03:00] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[03:01] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: oh well, you can try doing the fix grub thing in !grub
[03:01] <mickster04> !grub | ShapeShifter499
[03:01] <mickster04> ShapeShifter499: that restoregrub link is the one you want
[03:01] <ShapeShifter499> mickster04, sorry ment to say gparted *facepalm*
[03:01] <UbuntuN00b> anyone have some time to help a n00b with a grub problem
[03:01] <camelot> i give in...windows it is. thx! blah!
[03:02] <l3aked4uftw> UbuntuN00b: what kind of problem?
[03:02] <MK`> How do I get the Network section to "Refresh"? It's not updating after I changed stuff on computers on the network, even though direct connection works
[03:02] <like> hi
[03:02] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: hey, sorry about that
[03:02] <UbuntuN00b> installed windows xp (internal harddrive) install ubuntu (netbook remix) (on SD) grub didn't load after install went strait to windows
[03:03] <gnosis> MK`: what's not showing up?
[03:03] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: errrrrrrr i closed the page gotta reopen now lol
[03:03] <l3aked4uftw> UbuntuN00b: i think you have to install grub on hd too, better wait for someone more experienced than me
[03:03] <MK`> gnosis: When I click on the network, the computers do not show up. The printer connected to one of the computers works fine from here, though
[03:03] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: you there?
[03:03] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: haha sorry
[03:04] <gnosis> UbuntuN00b: try switching boot order in bios?
[03:04] <UbuntuN00b> can't acer aspire doesn't find sd card (as its pci internally not usb)
[03:04] <l3aked4uftw> gnosis: lol, judging the time here and my brain's conditions i would have NEVER thought of that, good one :)
[03:04] <mickster04> UbuntuN00b: then you have to install grub on the first hdd
[03:05] <gnosis> UbuntuN00b: ohhh, i thought you meant you had an ssd
[03:05] <gnosis> UbuntuN00b: you have a card reader or something?
[03:05] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: you know what turbo boost is?
[03:06] <mickster04> UbuntuN00b: the manual will say if you can boot from the SD card?
[03:06] <UbuntuN00b> i bought a usb one... didn't come up in bios (waster of $12)
[03:06] <mickster04> UbuntuN00b: what boot ptions do you get in the bios
[03:06] <UbuntuN00b> can't book from SD card  from bios....but with grub your suppose to be able to
[03:06] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: yep
[03:06] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: you have it as a priority?
[03:07] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: not really
[03:07] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw: turbo boost: http://cultoupop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/GilletteMach3TurboCartridges.jpg
[03:07] <mickster04> UbuntuN00b: it is nothing to do with grub, if your bios won't let you you can't? alternatively try installing grub on the main hdd, it should work fine
[03:07] <UbuntuN00b> ok is their a native windows install, or do i have to make a bootable usb?
[03:07] <l3aked4uftw> gnosis: i know what it is i was helping aroman pick up a notebook lol
[03:07] <l3aked4uftw> gnosis: thanks though
[03:07] <teage> where would the menu settings be saved? I have it set up the way i like and would like to be able to save my settings case something goes wrong.
[03:08] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw: i was just making teh funnehs
[03:08] <mickster04> teage: usually /home/user ?
[03:08] <l3aked4uftw> gnosis: LOL i just realised :D
[03:08] <mickster04> UbuntuN00b: yeah, wubi
[03:08] <UbuntuN00b> afk
[03:08] <teage> mickster04 thanks, will check there now
[03:08] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: intel gma hd (arrandale) would be fine for flash and such stuff we go for it? (may make the pc cheaper)
[03:09] <mickster04> teage: they well be in hidden folders etc?
[03:09] <aroman> l3aked4uftw: yeah let's see it ;)
[03:09] <l3aked4uftw> aroman: omfg this connection is slow brb
[03:10] <l3aked4uftw> ops sorry for the rudeness
[03:10] <gnosis> aroman: looking for a laptop?
[03:10] <Technicus> Hello . . . is it possible to display blinking text with Gnome Terminal?
[03:11] <aroman> gnosis: yep
[03:11] <mickster04> teage: for why?
[03:11] <mickster04> Technicus: for why?
[03:11] <mickster04> Technicus: sorry
[03:11] <mickster04> teage: sorry
[03:11] <teage> mickster04 , would it be in .local do you think. im not sure what exactly im looking for
[03:11] <mickster04> -_-
[03:11] <FloodBot1> mickster04: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <mickster04> teage: me neither
[03:11] <Technicus> For because it is not and I want it to.
[03:12] <teage> because i have edited my applications menu and i would like to back it up
[03:12] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: im on a 2mb connection my 3g stick is supposed to be 14  yet my old slow modem pwnt the stick, and btw its me, it didnt log the other off freenode lol
[03:13] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: how long would you like the warranty to last?
[03:13] <MK`> gnosis: When I click on the network, the computers do not show up. The printer connected to one of the computers works fine from here, though
[03:13] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: damn
[03:13] <mickster04> !restoregrub | UbuntuN00b
[03:13] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: don't care
[03:13] <gnosis> Technicus: most modern terminals don't support blinking.  thankfully
[03:13] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: even if its 1 year collect n return is it fine for u?
[03:13] <teage> mickster04 , I believe its in .local because i just found my .desktop launchers i have created. Think im on the right track
[03:13] <UbuntuN00b> !grub
[03:13] <Technicus> gnosis: konsole supports blinking.
[03:13] <mickster04> teage: awesome
[03:13] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: yeah
[03:14] <ender> Hi folks, I'm having a problem here getting sound to work, have looked in the forums for a while and thought to ask if anyone can give me a hand. I'm running Xubuntu 10.10 and alsa seems to be working fine. My onboard SiS 97 (7012) is listed and I can even mute and unmute channels in alsamixer
[03:14] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: o great, unlike me you dont waste your money on warranty =P
[03:14] <aroman> :P
[03:14] <gnosis> MK`: dunno, sorry
[03:15] <mickster04> ender: so are your speakers plugged in and turned on /up?
[03:15] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: never using windows?
[03:15] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: yeah I dont intend to run it
[03:15] <ender> mickster04: yeah... =)
[03:16] <oscargot>  ]
[03:16] <ender> mickster04: the icon in the gui mixer shows dots after the speaker, as if it's muted or unplugged, but the master channel (actually all channels) are not muted.
[03:16] <mickster04> ender: no sounds at all?
[03:16] <UbuntuN00b> !grub > me
[03:16] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: one is this http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=fncor05&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=inspiron-15r-combo-mod  tweak it if you like while i see a sandy bridge one (wider choice, mind you im not sure sb will work)
[03:17] <ender> mickster04: Also, It was working fine under an Ubuntu live I ran earlier.
[03:17] <rcconf> back
[03:17] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: 3gb ram should be plenty, if you want you can tweak something , let me know
[03:17] <mickster04> ender: ... -_- no idea then
[03:17] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: dell has gone to shit the last few years
[03:17] <radhruin> I transfered my boot drive to completely different computer and now I can't get ubuntu to boot (it's a natty install). Dmesg/kern log shows nothing in particular. New compy has different graphics hardware (AMD not nVidia) so I purged nvidia-* but still no luck booting. Any ideas?
[03:17] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: what you mean?
[03:17] <mickster04> !ohmy | gnosis
[03:17] <gnosis> ah, sorry
[03:18] <mickster04> radhruin: actually install grub to the hdd
[03:18] <rcconf> If I setup a SSH server and do not login (GDM) it will be listening right?
[03:18] <ayecee> rcconf: yes
[03:18] <radhruin> mickster04: I should say I'm on the box now, I can get to the CLI but if I let it boot all the way it freezes.
[03:18] <mickster04> radhruin: yes
[03:18] <mickster04> rcconf: yes
[03:18] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: i worked a job where i was managing 300+ laptops, mix or dell and IBM
[03:18] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: we had many more problems with the dells
[03:18] <ender> mickster04: tks man! =) Anyone else got an idea??
[03:19] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: what kinda problems?
[03:19] <mickster04> radhruin: uhm...sudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get upgrade?
[03:19] <HyperShock> !natty | radhruin
[03:19] <rcconf> ayecee mickster04: same for a VNC server?
[03:19] <rcconf> Ubuntu default
[03:20] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: hard drives died constantly.  also the cases were terribly fragile, the hinge design in particular was awful
[03:20] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: i own a vostro and i can quite say its the best laptop i ever bought/seen/dreamed of lol, how old were the ones you had problems with?
[03:20] <radhruin> hypershock: I was hoping someone accomplished a similar feat hence why I'm here.
[03:20] <rhizmoe> what's ubuntu's version of growl called? and is it the same thing that rhythmbox uses?
[03:21] <ayecee> rcconf: probably
[03:21] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: re you still there?
[03:21] <zruty> How to burn a CD? Brasero keeps telling me I need to replace the blank disc, even when I do.
[03:21] <HyperShock> radhruin: by amd video do you mean ATI?
[03:22] <radhruin> mickster: I'll give it a shot. Also interesting is that if I attempt to sudo service gdm start it says it's already running. I can stop and start it fine.
[03:22] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: those were 2007-2009 i believe.  since then 2 friends of mine have bought dell and both regret it
[03:22] <radhruin> hypershock: No. ATI brand is defunct for the most part. This particular part is an AMD 880G
[03:23] <izinucs> radhruin: since they merged, it's still ati technology.. and drivers
[03:23] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: odd , very, my only big regret is not having bought accidental damage so i can throw it like a freesbie lol my vostro has only 1 problem, hard disk whistles, when it breaks tech is gunna come and replace it, aslong as its not accidental damage (water spill and powercuts) im covered in any case :P sorry to hear about your experience,  i hope im not the only one that got lucky
[03:23] <gnosis> aroman: take a look at toshibas.  i've had good luck with them.  0 problems installing ubuntu on the one i'm using now
[03:23] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: i think hes afk  lol
[03:23] <aroman> gah
[03:24] <radhruin> izinucs: Of course, but if the box says AMD I'm going to call it AMD :)
[03:24] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman : errr problems?
[03:24] <izinucs> aroman: I'm running an old ibm T42 . no problems
[03:24] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: all good now. I really like that model, but I think i ought to wait for it to be refreshed before I buy it.
[03:24] <aroman> seems like its gonna get an update any day now.
[03:24] <swatto> woo im back and everything appears to be workign again :) startup apps and vlc....hmm wonder what happened
[03:24] <rcconf> for Vino server I need to login.. what VNC server do you recommend?
[03:24] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: it got an update, sandy bridge processors, want me to link you one?
[03:25] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: the ones with those silly swappable lids?
[03:25] <HyperShock> radhruin: ok, i've asked your question in #ubuntu+1, hopefully we'll get an answer
[03:25] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: yup
[03:25] <aroman> izinucs: I was seriously considering ThinkPads, but they seem very overpriced
[03:25] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman : and with silly ownage sandy bridge lol
[03:25] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: i would consider them but that lid thing is a freaking dealbreaker
[03:25] <aroman> what WERE they thinking!?
[03:25] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: want me to check a vostro?
[03:26] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: only problem is for businesses so you may have to beg a rep to sell you one (i didnt have to he just did idk how it is in the US)
[03:26] <chenqian> haha
[03:27] <aroman> holy cow
[03:27] <aroman> http://premierconfigure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=&ci=E1334_2&customer_id=RC956904&~tgt=cfg&l=en&s=hied&cs=RC956904
[03:27] <aroman> that looks *PERFECT*
[03:27] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: doesnt let me see O_O
[03:27] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: can you paste its specs?
[03:27] <aroman> sandy bridge i5, intel 3000 graphics, 4GB ram
[03:27] <gnosis> aroman: req login
[03:27] <aroman> gnosis: huh?
[03:27] <Gunnar> ehm problem, i'm in as root but am getting permission denied when trying to edit resolv.conf in /etc
[03:27] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: is it an inspiron?
[03:27] <eric__> \join lxccontainer
[03:28] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: I'll host the webpage on a webserver of mine. 1 sec :)
[03:28] <gnosis> aroman: that page, points me to a signin
[03:28] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: what brand is it?
[03:28] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: i only need to know it i know dell website better than their webmaster lol
[03:28] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: its a vostro
[03:28] <aroman> dell has a HORRIBLE website
[03:28] <aroman> all these PC companies do. it's really pathetic
[03:28] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: vostro 3550?
[03:28] <keidori> Hello
[03:28] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: 3450
[03:29] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: thats a great one too!
[03:29] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: isnt it 14'' tho?
[03:29] <izinucs> aroman: get a used one.. I had someone give me this one.. the Win xp pro install was hooked to a domain and the guy didn't work there anymore.. It's about 4-5 yrs old.. great machine
[03:29] <aroman> oh yeah, i didnt check that
[03:29] <keidori> I was wondering if any one knows what the whole "200 line script" dose?
[03:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> wierd things happening..could it be i havent rebooted after updates?
[03:29] <rhizmoe> "mumbles" appears to be the ubuntu-growl
[03:29] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman : 3550 is 15'' http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bqct51a&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&model_id=vostro-3550 check this out and add 1 gb of ram (3gb is better for intel gma's)
[03:29] <gnosis> aroman: what's your price range?
[03:30] <pehden> after any updates you should really reboot
[03:30] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: if you tell me the price i can confirm i gave you the right link
[03:30] <gnosis> keidori: what?
[03:30] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i lost internet connection and cant get back sumtimes
[03:30] <KINGOFSWORDS> will do in couple hrs
[03:30] <Gunnar> i'm logged in as root but unable to edit resolv.conf, any idea why?
[03:30] <keidori> its called the 200 line kernel patch
[03:31] <keidori> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/script-to-automatically-apply-200-lines.html
[03:31] <aroman> this link should work: http://avo.cyanix.org/dell.html
[03:31] <aroman> gnosis: <=$1000
[03:31] <keidori> I was reading about how to speed up and tweek my 10.10 box and it kept coming up
[03:32] <keidori> so I was trying to look up what it dose but I am having a hard time finding out
[03:32] <edbian> keidori: I know the high level.  It makes groups of processes.  The gui things get in a group together with very high priority so they are 'more important' together and the gui is smoother.
[03:32] <kg> hi
[03:32] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: this is a good one too http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=blct551&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&model_id=latitude-e5520   , and this is the 3550 if you didnt see http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bqct51a&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&model_id=vostro-3550   on both add 1 gb ram (there is a 3gb option +40$)
[03:32] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: looking at em now.
[03:33] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: vostro's are pretty good, latitude are also pretty solid, im so jelous that you have them at low price, id pay like 1000 + €  LOL
[03:33] <keidori> thanks edbian
[03:33] <edbian> keidori: sure
[03:33] <keidori> do you have it installed?
[03:33] <radhruin> What log files are potentially relevant when debugging a freeze during bootup?
[03:33] <aroman> l3aked4uftw2: haha, you live in the UK?
[03:33] <edbian> keidori: I do not.  I use Debian
[03:33] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: nope they have £ lol
[03:33] <rohithwiz> Hello I need help installing Qeve.
[03:33] <aroman> O.o lol
[03:33] <Gunnar> i'm logged in as root but unable to edit resolv.conf, any idea why? (-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39 2010-10-23 20:28 resolv.conf)
[03:33] <keidori> i see, what do you use?
[03:33] <aroman> shows how much I know
[03:34] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: and to you it also ships fast!!!!!! i waited 1 month omg
[03:34] <edbian> Gunnar: typo whoami at the term.  What does it say?
[03:34] <edbian> keidori: I just said.  I use Debian
[03:34] <Gunnar> edbian root
[03:34] <gnosis> keidori: looks like a change to task scheduling
[03:34] <gnosis> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1910085
[03:35] <edbian> Gunnar: echo $UID   ?
[03:35] <qianjin> 有人吗
[03:35] <Gunnar> edbian 0
[03:35] <jrib> Gunnar: lsattr /etc/resolv.conf
[03:35] <keidori> cool thanks for the link gnosis
[03:35] <Gunnar> jrib: ----i------------e- /etc/resolv.conf
[03:35] <rohithwiz> How do you install the Pd-Extended library on 10.10?
[03:35] <jrib> Gunnar: there you go
[03:36] <keidori> has any one applied the 200 line linux kernel patch?
[03:36] <Gunnar> what does it mean jrib?
[03:36] <jrib> Gunnar: it means you made the file immutable (using chattr)
[03:36] <edbian> jrib: What the heck?  I've never even heard of that!
[03:36] <Gunnar> jrib: can't remember doing that, so i fix it using chattr?
[03:36] <jrib> Gunnar: yes, chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf
[03:37] <jrib> edbian: haha, that's exactly what I said when I first learned about chattr
[03:37] <edbian> jrib: :)  neat
[03:37] <rohithwiz> How do you install the Pd-Extended library on 10.10?
[03:37] <edbian> I suppose attr is attributes of the file?
[03:37] <rcconf> gnome network manager is a pita
[03:37] <gnosis> aroman: http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/laptops.to#1302834988348
[03:37] <rcconf> changes resolv and hosts files
[03:37] <Gunnar> jrib: ah i remember, i did it because dhcp was messing with resolv.conf
[03:37] <edbian> Gunnar: It'll do that
[03:37] <Gunnar> imma edit it and lock it again edbian :)
[03:38] <edbian> Gunnar: you can edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[03:38] <edbian> Gunnar: there is a prepend server line that I think you'll find interesting
[03:39] <Gunnar> ooOoo nice, thanks edbian
[03:39] <edbian> Gunnar: no problem
[03:39] <blaze1993> hello?
[03:39] <mickster04> is i tm e you're looking for?
[03:39] <gnosis> sup blaze1993
[03:39] <mickster04> it me*
[03:40] <edbian> blaze1993: hi
[03:40] <codex84> dam cant watch netflix on linux lol
[03:40] <codex84> sucks ass
[03:40] <gnosis> codex84: i know, so lame :-\
[03:40] <edbian> codex84: yes it does
[03:40] <blaze1993> i need to get my gts450 drivers to work on ubuntu linux
[03:40] <blaze1993> how?
[03:40] <codex84> it does?
[03:40] <codex84> i just got a error message
[03:40] <mickster04> blaze1993: kick 'em :)
[03:40] <gnosis> edbian: how's that?
[03:41] <blaze1993> kick who?
[03:41] <edbian> gnosis: I meant it does indeed suck
[03:41] <mickster04> codex84: i doubt it will work, it should be silverlight? and moonlight isn't quite up to scratch yet?
[03:41] <gnosis> edbian: ah
[03:41] <mickster04> claw: the drivers :D
[03:41] <codex84> streaming not supported
[03:41] <codex84> by your os
[03:41] <mickster04> codex84: yeah, netflix uses silverlight
[03:41] <codex84> requirements windows or mac
[03:42] <l3aked4uftw2> codex84: wait a minute
[03:42] <codex84> lmaoo
[03:42] <l3aked4uftw2> codex84: wasnt there moonlight for linux?
[03:42] <sacarlson> how do I find out what libs a program uses?  maybe something like ld ?
[03:42] <mickster04> l3aked4uftw2: yes but i think netflix is on SL2
[03:42] <codex84> yea they on sliverlightt
[03:42] <l3aked4uftw2> mickster04: omg those noobs
[03:42] <codex84> cuz it works on my windows 7 os
[03:42] <nuomi> ldd
[03:42] <Khisanth> sacarlson: ldd
[03:43] <l3aked4uftw2> codex84: so sad , they support mac os x but not linux wth?
[03:43] <codex84> whats wrong with them they never heard of linux?
[03:43] <codex84> lmaooo
[03:43] <rww> Netflix doesn't work on Moonlight because it uses DRM components that only Silverlight has and only Silverlight is ever going to have.
[03:43] <sacarlson> Khisanth: nuomi: ok I'll take a look at that thanks
[03:43] <edbian> codex84: they're jerks
[03:43] <codex84> wrdd
[03:43] <codex84> ugh im mad
[03:43] <codex84> lol
[03:43] <HyperShock> you can use CinemaNow.com instead of netflix.
[03:43] <gnosis> edbian: probably not their fault, blame DRM required by studios
[03:43] <l3aked4uftw2> codex84: megavideo ftw
[03:43] <edbian> yeah  DRM is the real bad guy here
[03:44] <HyperShock> megavideo for the 'you got busted'
[03:44] <l3aked4uftw2> HyperShock: what?
[03:44] <Khisanth> codex84: actually it's worse than having never heard of linux
[03:44] <codex84> they mad dumb
[03:44] <codex84> yoo
[03:45] <mickster04> !ot
[03:45] <mickster04> btw
[03:45] <rcconf> !ot
[03:45] <mickster04> \:D
[03:45] <rcconf> :P
[03:45] <l3aked4uftw2> HyperShock: what you mean by you got busted?
[03:45] <codex84> i think netflix dont like ubuntu lmaoo
[03:45] <HyperShock> l3aked4uftw2: its not meant for watching movies
[03:45] <l3aked4uftw2> aroman: you still there?
[03:45] <HyperShock> bonafide movies
[03:45] <rcconf> stop with offtopic dudes
[03:46] <gnosis> mickster04: i'd say it's at least tangentially on-topic
[03:46] <l3aked4uftw2> HyperShock: err , i personally only go on youtube, but i heard of people watching full series on megavideo and none of em got jailed, plus if they wanna jail someone they jail providers :P
[03:46] <codex84> lol
[03:46] <gnosis> ok now maybe not
[03:46] <rhizmoe> Hmm, what am i missing here? mumbles seems to have disappeared from the internet
[03:46] <mickster04> gnosis: yeah not really
[03:47] <mickster04> rhizmoe: who?
[03:47] <afiredp1> how
[03:47] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: he left again omg
[03:47] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: who?
[03:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> is gnome player just vlc?
[03:48] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: aroman lol
[03:48] <sonja> after installing wubi, there's a pre-grub that waits 1 second to enter win. if i select ubuntu, it takes me to real grub with default 10s countdown. how do i config that pre-grub ?
[03:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> also how do i make vlc my default player?
[03:48] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: 2 different programs
[03:48] <mickster04> !gnomeplayer
[03:48] <gnosis> l3aked4uftw2: oh.  i have joins/parts turned off, makes the channel much more usable
[03:48] <mickster04> that was stupoid --_
[03:48] <mickster04> -.-
[03:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> !gnomeplayer
[03:48] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: System/preferences/preferred applications
[03:49] <KINGOFSWORDS> thx
[03:49] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: welcome
[03:49] <rhizmoe> mickster04: mumbles is a growl-like utility
[03:49] <KINGOFSWORDS> but is gmomeplayer nopn codec player thou like vlc?
[03:49] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: pardon?
[03:49] <UbuntuN00b> anybody have time to walk me through an advance ubuntu partition install?
[03:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> sorry i mean 'non codec
[03:50] <l3aked4uftw2> UbuntuN00b: i may try
[03:50] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: sorry im not sure
[03:50] <edbian> UbuntuN00b: yes
[03:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> nah preferred apps didnt do it
[03:51] <Khisanth> well that is just confusing ... there is also mumble for voice chat
[03:51] <rhizmoe> yes there is. i just got done removing it :)
[03:51] <gnosis> KINGOFSWORDS: right click > properties > open with
[03:51] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186502
[03:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> neither does Home Folder -> Edit menu -> Preferences -> choose Media tab...just sets dvds to play in vlc
[03:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> thx guys
[03:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> illd o both
[03:52] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: i think both are the same thing lol
[03:52] <l3aked4uftw2> KINGOFSWORDS: just said it almost at same time :P
[03:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> nah little differnt
[03:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah
[03:52] <hiexpo> wow KINGOFSWORDS  trying to be a linux guy lol
[03:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> lol
[03:52] <codex84> lmaoo
[03:52] <codex84> yo king dont let him talk to u like that lol
[03:53] <KINGOFSWORDS> gnosis thx u were right
[03:53] <trees> whats the easiest way to uninstall mysql and then reinstall it
[03:54]  * HyperShock fees as if someone is shouting with all the capslocked nicks going on about.
[03:54] <codex84> software manager
[03:54] <izinucs> trees: on cli or through synaptic pkg manager?
[03:55] <izinucs> trees: and what do you hope to accomplish by doing that?
[03:57] <HyperShock> trees: in synaptic, right click the package and choose 'reinstall'
[03:58] <rhizmoe> .
[03:58] <l3aked4uftw2> well, its late, im tired and when im tired i tend to say random stuff, off to bed for me bye everyone,  @gnosis hint him with a good toshiba if he comes back and didnt like dell lol
[03:58] <l3aked4uftw2> gnosis: and dont go acer O_O
[03:59] <levander> This channel used to be jumping. Now all the messages are just people joining and leaving...
[04:00] <nit-wit> levander, splitting
[04:01] <aroman> which version of glib ships with maverick?
[04:01] <Auriga> Hello, Any Mint users around? I'm trying to work out which version of Ubuntu Mint 10 is based on in terms of installing apps & adding repos... I hope I phrased that correctly...
[04:02] <edbian> Auriga: Do you mean what version of Ubuntu it is based on?
[04:02] <rww> !mintsupport | Auriga
[04:03] <edbian> Auriga: you should ask in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[04:04] <aroman> Auriga: it's based on 10.10, Linux 2.6.35, Gnome 2.32, Xorg 7.5.
[04:04] <Auriga> edbian, Spotchat being the network to add?
[04:04] <aroman> Auriga: http://linuxmint.com/rel_julia_whatsnew.php
[04:04] <aroman> last heading (scroll to the bottom)
[04:04] <edbian> Auriga: irc.spotchat.org is the server.  #linuxmint-help is the channel
[04:05] <Auriga> edbian, Thank you.
[04:05] <Auriga> aroman, Ahhh thank you, much appreciated.
[04:05] <aroman> Auriga: sure
[04:06] <Auriga> aroman, That was the exact info I wanted, thank you so much.
[04:09] <c33dog> anybody have experience with squid-cache?
[04:11] <Venkatesh> Hai
[04:11] <Venkatesh> Anyone pl help in XDMCP , ubuntu 9.10
[04:12] <ayecee> !anyone
[04:12] <bigdavjoker> could some point me to solutions for choppy video in 10.10.  I just upgraded from 10.4 and streaming video for example from nbc.com is very choppy and not synched wiht sound
[04:12] <ayecee> bigdavjoker: using nvidia video?
[04:13] <Venkatesh> I am facing a problem in XDMCP connection. I am using ubuntu 9.10. I am not able to connect XDMCP in LAN.
[04:13] <bigdavjoker> ayecee could you remind me how to check for which driver I hate to admit I forget what I have in this laptop
[04:13] <c33dog> ok, does squid-cache resume broken downloads due to unreliable network connections when caching or does it start over from the beginning?
[04:14] <ayecee> bigdavjoker: to be honest, I don't know offhand either. maybe lshw can do it?
[04:15] <bigdavjoker> ayecee, I think I found it with lspci  ati radeon
[04:15] <ayecee> bigdavjoker: okay, then not the problem I had :)
[04:15] <bigdavjoker> ayecee, yeah I saw references to that in posts I've also tried upgrading my kernnel
[04:16] <ayecee> c33dog: that sounds kind of technical. I wonder if there's a squid channel or forum that might be able to better answer that.
[04:16] <xiven> How did "FloodBot" get it's name? Is it there solely to protect from channel flooding?
[04:16] <mickster04> c33dog: ask them, this is ubuntu support
[04:16] <mickster04> xiven: yes
[04:16] <ayecee> !squid
[04:16] <ayecee> hmm. well, basic starting points there.
[04:16] <mickster04> is there a non-caching proxy server available for ubuntu?
[04:17] <opera> hello . i want rename some *.JPG  to *.jpg   . how would do
[04:17] <mickster04> opera: move *.JPG *.jpg perhaps? try with a small batch in a seperate folder
[04:17] <mickster04> mv not move
[04:17] <mickster04> in terminal
[04:18] <ayecee> opera: rename s/JPG/jpg/ *JPG
[04:18] <opera> I try .
[04:18] <c33dog> i'm on the squid channell too, but this one has much better participation and potentially more knowledgeable people, so I thought I'd ask.  The rest of IRC seems dead compared to ubuntu.
[04:18] <mickster04> c33dog: yes well ce la vie
[04:18] <ayecee> mickster04: I'm afraid that one won't work, unless it's just one file :)
[04:18] <whiskey_> how can I change mysql variables in ubuntu
[04:18] <ayecee> c'est la vie :P
[04:19] <mickster04> ayecee: pardon me
[04:19] <mickster04> ayecee: and what happens if u try with multiple files?
[04:19] <mickster04> is there no -r?
[04:19] <ouyes> http://www.ipmsg.org.cn/linux/UMFG_linux.tar.gz for lan file transfer
[04:19] <izinucs> whiskey_: you might also ask in #ubuntu-server and/or ##linux
[04:20] <ayecee> mickster04: it'll expand it to a list of all matching files for the first argument, no files will match the second argument, and it will complain that the final target is not a directory.
[04:20] <ayecee> mickster04: unless you're unfortunate enough to try with just two files, in which case it will mv the first one to the second one.
[04:21] <gnosis> ouyes: what?
[04:22] <FloatingGoat> whats the unity project page again?
[04:22] <hanasaki> what program(s) will do LDAP based admin and setup of users for login as well as a listserv?  some listserv users may not have an OS login.   some users may have email but no home dir and OS login
[04:22] <c33dog> ah well, I think it'll be quicker to determine this empirically.  thanks anyway.
[04:22] <ouyes> gnosis, it is a tool for file transfer
[04:22] <ouyes> gnosis, it is quick and simple
[04:23] <UbuntuN00b> "ready when you are" problem? anybody have a solution
[04:23] <FloatingGoat> nvm got it
[04:23] <gnosis> ouyes: were you responding to someone?
[04:23] <ayecee> UbuntuN00b: a solution to what?
[04:24] <ouyes> gnosis, no I just share with you, I find a useful tool
[04:24] <xiven> I forgot what I actually came in here to ask...
[04:24] <gnosis> because anyone who downloads a random .tar off a .cn server is a bit dumb
[04:24] <UbuntuN00b> i think the install of ubuntu netbook remix might be stuck at the "ready when you are" keyboard layout screen seems to be a common problem
[04:24] <apporc> xiven: then you should stop to think about it ...
[04:24] <xiven> If it was important enough, I'll remember later.
[04:25] <ayecee> UbuntuN00b: ah. sorry, haven't seen that.
[04:25] <UbuntuN00b> no worries it might have to do using "User" instead of "user" when setting up info
[04:26] <sevith> If im running a 32 bit version of ubuntu and wanna switch to 64 bit do i have to recompile the kernel or...?
[04:27] <ayecee> sevith: yes. and switch to 64 bit libraries, and replace the 32 bit binaries with 64 bit binaries..
[04:27] <izinucs> sevith: if you have a separate /home partition just reinstall *but don't reformat /home* in the process
[04:27] <sevith> Id rather not reinstall...I just recompiled a newer kernel the other day but didnt realize i should have switched to 64 bits !
[04:27] <sevith> Retard...
[04:27] <xangua> sevith: clean install
[04:27] <sevith> :(
[04:27] <inaety> I have a dual boot partitioned hard drive. One partition is running ubuntu, the other another distribution of linux.  Is there any way I can install install another distribution from ubuntu onto that second partition? without using a livecd or any extra hardware?
[04:28] <apporc> inaety: yes ,you can.
[04:28] <Ben64> inaety: insert cd, install other distro?
[04:28] <inaety> apporc: is there a guide or anything?
[04:29] <dogarrhea1> cool!
[04:29] <inaety> Ben64: without using a livecd
[04:29] <dogarrhea1> ubuntu decides it's ok to disable wireless
[04:29] <Ben64> inaety: use the install cd for the distro -.-
[04:29] <dogarrhea1> stupid linux
[04:29] <apporc> inaety: you must have an iso image
[04:29] <dogarrhea1> not for the desktop. the year 2xxx is NOT the year of desktop linux. it never will be
[04:29] <UbuntuN00b> lol
[04:29] <xangua> !ot | dogarrhea1
[04:29] <inaety> Ben64: i don't want to use a disc.  I dont have any and I really just dont want to go buy some
[04:29] <dogarrhea1> i checked my hardware wireless switch
[04:29] <inaety> apporc: okay
[04:29] <Ben64> dogarrhea1: this channel isn't for getting angry at things
[04:29] <UbuntuN00b> usbkey?
[04:30] <dogarrhea1> and i checked my fn + f5 commands
[04:30] <UbuntuN00b> make a bootable usbkey
[04:30] <dogarrhea1> no dice. the documentation is not useful either
[04:30] <Ben64> inaety: you need to have install media of some type
[04:30] <elijah> How do I share my internet connection with Win XP via cat5?
[04:30] <izinucs> inaety: like UbuntuN00b said.. use a usb key
[04:30] <dogarrhea1> ben64, when ubuntu just decides it's ok to make my wireless connection wired, and have no option of turning it on short of doing very very very low level kernel stuff
[04:30] <UbuntuN00b> use sasu it will create the usbkey
[04:30] <dogarrhea1> why shouldnt' i get angry
[04:30] <UbuntuN00b> all you need is the image
[04:30] <dogarrhea1> this is supposed to be a desktop distro.
[04:30] <izinucs> !ics | elijah
[04:30] <ouyes> gnosis, the tool is special, I just use it transfered 4gb files and directories from my windows pc to my ubuntu laptop, you can use it cross platform simutaoulosly
[04:31] <rww> dogarrhea1: because this channel is for technical support, not psychological support
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> i'm now in windows using the internet. trying to find out what's wrong with ubuntu
[04:31] <Ben64> dogarrhea1: you could try asking a question here and see if someone will help you
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> so. what is the problem with ubuntu
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> turning of my wireless?
[04:31] <Ben64> !details | dogarrhea1
[04:31] <inaety> izinucs: i really dont have access to one haha. im up at school and i forgot everything
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> it's 10.0 something
[04:31] <apporc> inaety: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774539
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> and i just try to surf to firefox and it says offline mode.
[04:31] <gnosis> ouyes: link to an english-language project page describing it
[04:31] <dogarrhea1> the network properties says "wired". i don't see a way to turn on wireless.
[04:32] <Ben64> which wireless card
[04:32] <izinucs> inaety: that's a classic "up a creek without a paddle" scenerio
[04:32] <dogarrhea1> Ben64, it's some sager internal wireless card
[04:32] <inaety> izinucs: no kidding. you forget how useful these things are
[04:32] <elijah> izinucs: thx
[04:32] <Ben64> dogarrhea1: really going to need information to get help
[04:32] <dogarrhea1> like?
[04:32] <Ben64> dogarrhea1: could you plug in the computer to the network and come here in linux?
[04:32] <sevith> does make xconfig or gconfig or menuconfig overwrite the existing config file thats in place or does it use this config file to highlight the options and suc
[04:33] <dogarrhea1> ugh. i have to put my laptop on the floor in some corner of another room to do this
[04:33] <Ben64> sevith: it does overwrite the config, but that's not going to accomplish what you want
[04:33] <dogarrhea1> thanks ubuntu! your'e the best
[04:33] <Ben64> dogarrhea1: be less angry
[04:33] <sevith> Ben64, WE have to manually modify the config file? :(
[04:33] <Ben64> sevith: what?
[04:34] <sevith> Ben64, I dont know.
[04:34] <Ben64> sevith: if i understand correctly, you're on 32 bit and you want 64
[04:34] <Ben64> and you think compiling the kernel will help
[04:34] <sevith> Ben64, yes
[04:34] <Ben64> just install the 64 bit version from cd
[04:34] <sevith> Thats not educational its automated.
[04:34] <Ben64> theres no other way
[04:34] <sevith> Its ok ill go read more and figure it out ;)
[04:35] <Ben64> all your binaries are for 32 bit
[04:35] <ouyes> gnosis, sorry dude, http://ipmsg.org/index.html.en
[04:35] <Ben64> all your libraries are for 32 bit
[04:35] <ayecee> sevith: it uses the existing config file in the source directory, but not the config file for the running system.
[04:35] <RealOpt> hey how can i tell if my computer is a 64bit machine
[04:35] <sevith> uname -m
[04:35] <Ben64> RealOpt: the computer or the OS?
[04:35] <sevith> Ben64, lol
[04:35] <RealOpt> the computers processor
[04:36] <ayecee> RealOpt: look up the processor on wikipedia, maybe :)
[04:36] <izinucs> RealOpt: sudo lshw will give you all kinds of hardware info
[04:36] <Ben64> RealOpt: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:36] <ayecee> ah, i keep forgetting about lshw
[04:36] <RealOpt> kk ty ty
[04:36] <cryptodira> how can i make the gnome screensaver STOP loading at bootup..... AND make the xscreensaver the default?  10.04.2  amd/64
[04:37] <gnosis> ouyes: .cn domains don't have the best reputation for security, so direct linking a .tar on one comes off as a bit suspicious
[04:38] <opera>   rename 's/JPG/jpg/' *.JPG
[04:38] <opera> it is right
[04:38] <opera> thank
[04:39] <UbuntuFanatic> no..?
[04:39] <mickster04> UbuntuFanatic: maybe..>
[04:39] <RealOpt> width: 64 bits  <- does that mean its a 64bit machine?
[04:39] <izinucs> RealOpt: yes
[04:39] <ouyes> gnosis, have faith on you computer and have faith in yourself, no one can hurt you if you are strong enough, no virus can do any damage to you, if you build a strong system
[04:39] <alex__> so
[04:39] <alex__> how do i turn wireless back on
[04:40] <RealOpt> always thought this box was
[04:40] <UbuntuFanatic> Alex__, what have you done so far..?
[04:40] <mickster04> alex__: how did you turn it off?
[04:40] <UbuntuFanatic> ^
[04:40] <RealOpt> so to upgrade from 32 bit, just pop in the cd?
[04:40] <alex__> by pressing the power button to turn ubuntu on apparently
[04:40] <zelo> where was the options to turn off show sys volumes (like d drive, ntfs n etc.)?
[04:40] <gnosis> ouyes: new attacks come out all the time, no system is 100% secure
[04:40] <ouyes> gnosis, do you know where is .cn domains from?
[04:40] <UbuntuFanatic> Zelo, "mount"?
[04:41] <alex__> iwconfig says "no wireless extensions"
[04:41] <gnosis> ouyes: yes, china
[04:41] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, are you on a graphical interface?
[04:41] <mickster04> !virus | gnosis
[04:41] <Ben64> RealOpt: where does it say width 64 bits?
[04:41] <alex__> yes ubuntufanatic
[04:41] <zelo> UbuntuFanatic, not to mount/dismount but to show/not show that they're mounted on the desktop (the icons rep the mounted disks)
[04:41] <RealOpt> Ben64,  under CPU
[04:42] <Ben64> RealOpt: what cpu do you have
[04:42] <RealOpt> not under compuer as im running 32bit :)
[04:42] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, what do you see after clicking once on the Network Manager? (dropdown box)
[04:42] <UbuntuFanatic> (the applet^)
[04:42] <RealOpt> Ben64, a crappy one lol
[04:42] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, oh, I don't recall. Sorry.
[04:42] <RealOpt> AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1250
[04:42] <zelo> tok im petty sure its in gconf-editor
[04:42] <zelo> but i cant find it
[04:43] <alex__> ubuntufanatic, the network manager is the up down arrows?
[04:43] <gnosis> mickster04: a lack of viruses on linux does not mean it's safe to download and run random files
[04:43] <Ben64> RealOpt: ok it does work on 64
[04:43] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, erm, yes.
[04:43] <alex__> or soemthing under system menu next to places and applciations?
[04:43] <UbuntuFanatic> it's the up and down arrows.
[04:43] <mickster04> gnosis: no it's not just the lack, it'salso the security structure in linux is better
[04:43] <alex__> i see wired network auto eth0
[04:43] <mickster04> gnosis: but yeah, they could still be malicious
[04:43] <gnosis> mickster04: better yes, but not invulnerable
[04:43] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, anything else?
[04:43] <Ben64> yeah someone could make a program that deletes everything in ~/
[04:44] <alex__> disconnect, vpn connections
[04:44] <Ben64> wouldn't be a virus really, but it'd suck
[04:44] <ouyes> gnosis, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gipmsg/,  here is the project, which you may think it were safe
[04:44] <mickster04> Ben64: no, you would need sudo for that
[04:44] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, no mention of wireless?
[04:44] <alex__> nope
[04:44] <Ben64> mickster04: no you don't
[04:44] <RealOpty> so what advantages does 64bit have over 32?
[04:44] <gnosis> ouyes: i believed you with the last link
[04:44] <Ben64> RealOpty: twice the bits
[04:44] <mickster04> Ben64: you cannot rm / without root access
[04:44] <Ben64> mickster04: re-read what i said
[04:44] <zelo> anybody know how to show/hide on the desktop the mounted drives/disks?
[04:44] <gnosis> ouyes: i was saying that the way you presented it initially was suspicious
[04:44] <alex__> there's this wireless switch on my computer that i've turned on and off a few times
[04:44] <mickster04> RealOpty: no time apocolypse in 2038~
[04:45] <alex__> and the fn+ f2 command that looks like it should toggle wireless
[04:45] <alex__> but those both do nothing
[04:45] <mickster04> alex__: have you right-clicked on it, it might say enable wireless there?
[04:45] <RealOpty> Ben64, and how is that an advantage over 32?
[04:45] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__
[04:45] <UbuntuFanatic> Is it a laptop?
[04:45] <alex__> yes
[04:45] <UbuntuFanatic> Ensure the toggle is on.
[04:45] <gnosis> mickster04: malicious apps can do plenty of bad stuff even limited to a user account
[04:45] <alex__> i just said
[04:46] <ouyes> gnosis, I still donot get why it is suspicous
[04:46] <alex__> it was on
[04:46] <Ben64> RealOpty: more memory, 64bit instructions
 there's this wireless switch on my computer that i've turned on and off a few times
[04:46] <UbuntuFanatic> No, you didn't.
[04:46] <clean> Does anyone manage to install Ubuntu Studio 10.10 from USB ?
[04:46] <alex__> i'm not dumb ok?
[04:46] <UbuntuFanatic> I know.. I'm not insulting you
[04:46] <alex__> you just did
[04:46] <UbuntuFanatic> I'm asking you to make sure it's on
[04:46] <alex__> why else would i mention this
[04:46] <UbuntuFanatic> I was going to talk you through something :P
[04:47] <alex__> and i was able to connect from windows so..
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> My laptop's driver for Wi-Fi = very fiddly.
[04:47] <RealOpty> os[Linux 2.6.35-28-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[1 x AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1250 (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.21GHz] mem[Physical: 3.0GB, 79.6% free] disk[Total: 915.9GB, 57.5% free] video[nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> == I spent a lot of time messing around with the drivers.
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> I wasn't trying to insult you.
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry.
[04:47] <gnosis> ouyes: because it was an unsolicited direct link to a .tar on a .cn domain
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> gnosis, was it just a random link or was it a reference?
[04:47] <UbuntuFanatic> EG:
[04:48] <alex__> are you going to walk  me through doing some xorg kernel hack now?
[04:48] <UbuntuFanatic> http://example.com/tar.gz
[04:48] <Rehan> can anyone reach http://alvi.homeip.net ?
[04:48] <UbuntuFanatic> Rehan, I can
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[04:48] <FloodBot1> zelo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <UbuntuFanatic> I see your router config.
[04:48] <Rehan> UbuntuFanatic: thank you sir
[04:48] <UbuntuFanatic> No problem.
[04:48] <zelo> OH! im soo sorry that wasnt supposed to still be in my copy bin
[04:48] <Ben64> zelo: ...
[04:48] <rww> ...
[04:48] <UbuntuFanatic> ...
[04:48] <Raikia> ...
[04:48] <red2kic> ...
[04:48] <izinucs> Rehan: yea.. I got your router setup screen
[04:49] <alex__> how useless can linux desktop be :(  i remember trying to install a video card once. had to modify some kernel crap (whatever it was) in some xorg config and reboot every singel time i wanted to use linux
[04:49] <zelo> it was supposed to paste  does anyone know how to change weather or not mounted  volumes on your desktop
[04:49] <alex__> and all people did was say "nvidia doesn't release drivers"
[04:49] <Raikia> alex__: It is very probable that your laptop's special button layout requires a program and its not installed
[04:49] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, it was more than one line.
[04:49] <ouyes> zelo,  what are you doing ? test the key word filter of the IRC ?
[04:49] <Rehan> izinucs: thank you. can't seem to get stupid port 9 opened
[04:49] <Ben64> alex__: was that in 2001?
[04:49] <xangua> alex__ nvidia does, chet it's site
[04:49] <izinucs> Rehan: why 9 and for what?
[04:49] <Rehan> izinucs: for wake on LAN
[04:49] <red2kic> UbuntuFanatic: Very common for multiple lines.
[04:49] <zelo> ouyes no that ws a previous copy for a grahic i was working on earlienr >( total mistake
[04:50] <gnosis> UbuntuFanatic: <ouyes> http://www.ipmsg.org.cn/linux/UMFG_linux.tar.gz for lan file transfer
[04:50] <alex__> so
[04:50] <UbuntuFanatic> red2kic, I know. I learned that.
[04:50] <alex__> i'm still on this wired connection sitting on the floor and my leg is faling asleep
[04:50] <UbuntuFanatic> gnosis, I'd be suspicious too..
[04:50] <zelo> its a pic of a kitty w diff fonts over it
[04:50] <alex__> anyone gonna help me before linux damages my health some more?
[04:50] <FloatingGoat> ubuntu-loco-mn
[04:50] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, what is?
[04:50] <izinucs> Rehan: if you're trying to do that from outside your lan then you might need to setup a different port like 8000 or something..
[04:50] <Raikia> alex__: What is your issue?
[04:51] <Rehan> izinucs: oh like have port 8000 outside but port 9 inside?
[04:51] <zelo> i pasted that from my paste board, i thought i was copying/pastging my question again
[04:51] <gnosis> alex__: why are you so angry when you chose to install the OS and people here are spending their free-time helping you?
[04:51] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, look at what you are pasting. :P
[04:51] <FloatingGoat> how do i find my loco team?
[04:51] <ouyes> gnosis, ok I agree with you for the beginning half of your words, but for the reputation of .cn domain, I have some different opinion
[04:51] <izinucs> Rehan: yea..
[04:51] <UbuntuFanatic> FloatingGoat, what country?
[04:51] <FloatingGoat> minnesota
[04:51] <zelo> again im sory if i insulted anyone...it was totally unintentional
[04:51] <UbuntuFanatic> okay, give me a moment.
[04:51] <Rehan> izinucs: thank you...was running out of ideas...will try this
[04:51] <Raikia> alex__: Tell me whats wrong and I can try to help you
[04:51] <alex__> gnosis, my life is being wasted. this is why
[04:51] <rww> FloatingGoat: /join #ubuntu-us-mn
[04:51] <izinucs> Rehan: better yet if you can set the wake on lan port onthe machine to the same
[04:51] <alex__> i can't connect to wireless
[04:51] <alex__> i just turned on my computer and hurray, wireless is disabled
[04:51] <Raikia> What kind of laptop?
[04:51] <alex__> with no obvious way to turn it back on
[04:51] <UbuntuFanatic> FloatingGoat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam
[04:52] <alex__> sager n*****
[04:52] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, we're spending our free time to help you
[04:52] <Rehan> izinucs: i don't think i can change what port it listens on on my machine
[04:52] <rww> alex__: excluse me?
[04:52] <fermulator> if any1 is familiar with mdadm ... please check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729459 -- fdisk shows "invalid partition tables" on an active mdadm RAID6 array!
[04:52] <Raikia> alex__: Did it work at one point? (in Ubuntu)
[04:52] <ouyes> zelo, you are playing a joke with 1452 people around the world, you are fun
[04:52] <alex__> rww, if you think i'm typing a derogatory word, please check sager laptop line for the n line
[04:52] <alex__> raikia  yes...
[04:52] <gnosis> alex__: then go back to using whatever you had before.  don't be rude to people that are helping you
[04:52] <Raikia> What does "iwconfig" say?
[04:52] <Raikia> pastebin it
[04:53] <FloatingGoat> why cant canonical sell single ubuntu CD's for a dollar? it seems reasonable. i'd buy it
[04:53] <Ben64> FloatingGoat: they used to give cd's for free
[04:53] <UbuntuFanatic> FloatingGoat, did you recieve my link?
[04:53] <FloatingGoat> UbuntuFanatic: yes friend
[04:53] <alex__> everything says: no wireless extensions, the four lines begin with lo, eth0, vboxnet0, pan0
[04:53] <UbuntuFanatic> Okay, no problem. :)
[04:53] <red2kic> rww: I have dell m*******.
[04:53] <UbuntuFanatic> Alex__, it's a virtualbox?!
[04:53] <FloatingGoat> Ben64: I know, but then you have to wait like a few months.
[04:53] <alex__> no i'm not running in a virtualbox
[04:54] <UbuntuFanatic> Why would there be a vboxnet..
[04:54] <RudyValencia> I'm willing to sell CDs if anyone wants them...
[04:54] <UbuntuFanatic> Oh, /dumbmoment
[04:54] <FloatingGoat> i'd rather pay a dollar and get it now
[04:54] <red2kic> RudyValencia: Put it on eBay like everybody else did.
[04:54] <gnosis> ouyes: "Sophos nailed China as the top junk-spewer back in its July 2007 Sophos Threat Report. In the report, Sophos said that China servers are behind 44.8 percent of the worlds malware-infected sites. Thats more than the next three top countries serving junk combined: the United States, at 20.8 percent, Russia with 11.3 percent, and Ukraine, at 7.7 percent. "
[04:54] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, you installed VirtualBox inside Ubuntu, yes?
[04:54] <RudyValencia> Ah
[04:54] <alex__> yes
[04:54] <UbuntuFanatic> oh, sorry.
[04:54] <Ben64> FloatingGoat: send me $1 and i'll mail you a cd tomorrow :D
[04:54] <gnosis> granted, that's a few years old
[04:54] <gnosis> but afaik it hasn't changed much
[04:55] <ouyes> alex__,  open a terminal and type ifconfig find which is your wireless interface , e.g. wlan0
[04:55] <gnosis> i've personally encountered several compromised .cn servers
[04:55] <UbuntuFanatic> and China is generally against 'free' anyway. :P
[04:55] <Laggg> hi guys
[04:55] <alex__> i see eht0 and pan0
[04:55] <UbuntuFanatic> Wait, how many of our users = from China?
[04:55] <alex__> none of which look like they are wireless
[04:55] <Laggg> how do i get ubuntu to detect my 2nd HDD w/ win7 on it and get grub2 working with it?
[04:55] <alex__> that is all i see ouyes
[04:55] <zelo> does anyone know how to change weather or not mounted  volumes will show on your desktop?
[04:56] <alex__> er only eth0 and lo
[04:56] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, I only know via "places". Sorry. :/
[04:56] <izinucs> zelo: it's someplace in the gconfig editor
[04:56] <Ben64> alex__: pastebin the output of "lspci"
[04:57] <ouyes> gnosis, you just misunderstand the statistics
[04:57] <alex__> http://pastey.net/149094
[04:57] <UbuntuFanatic> 16	03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[04:57] <jwshields> h
[04:57] <UbuntuFanatic> Getting somewhere now.
[04:58] <Raikia> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[04:58] <Raikia> ^^
[04:58] <r000t> ?DCC SEND "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" 0 0 0
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[04:58] <KATTENS> lolwhat
[04:58] <Raikia> Holy crap
[04:58] <alex__> ?
[04:58] <UbuntuFanatic> No idea what that was, anyone mind telling me?
[04:58] <Gando-san> oh my god lmao
[04:58] <UbuntuFanatic> Oh, I see.
[04:58] <gnosis> that was a pretty old exploit
[04:58] <alex__> did open source software fail again
[04:58] <Ben64> very old
[04:58] <UbuntuFanatic> It worked..
[04:58] <UbuntuFanatic> that's worrying.
[04:58] <UbuntuFanatic> :S
[04:58] <KATTENS> oh man
[04:58] <Ben64> alex__: chill out, seriously
[04:58] <rww> UbuntuFanatic, KATTENS, alex__, etc.: Please read the message from FloodBot1 :)
[04:59] <UbuntuFanatic> Okay.
[04:59] <KATTENS> it's a router exploit
[04:59] <tsimpson> alex__: no, close source router firmware fail
[04:59] <UbuntuFanatic> ah.
[04:59] <KATTENS> i know what it is
[04:59] <gnosis> ouyes: how's that?
[04:59] <ouyes> alex__, be patient
[04:59] <alex__> i am reading it
[04:59] <alex__> something about a dcc command.
[04:59] <Raikia> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[04:59] <alex__> sounds like an irc fail
[04:59] <UbuntuFanatic> I read it.
[04:59] <UbuntuFanatic> It's not an IRC Fail.
[04:59] <KATTENS> it's a shitty router fail
[04:59] <UbuntuFanatic> It's been around for ages, I never saw it in practice.
[04:59] <deena> Hi
[04:59] <rww> I note that "discuss it" is not in {"ignore it", "type <</msg ubottu exploit>>"}
[05:00] <deena> is that Ubuntu 11.04 released ?
[05:00] <rww> let's get back to #ubuntu support :)
[05:00] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry. :P
[05:00] <ouyes> gnosis, there are so many good from .cn
[05:00] <UbuntuFanatic> ^
[05:00] <rww> deena: nope, end of this month
[05:00] <Ben64> alex__: what version of ubuntu
[05:00] <ouyes> alex__,  you still there?
[05:00] <zepherin> grumble grumble grumble
[05:00] <alex__> 10.0 something
[05:00] <gnosis> ouyes: i never said there aren't legit .cn sites
[05:01] <ouyes> alex__, will you paste the output of ifconfig?
[05:01] <Ben64> alex__: lsb_release -a
[05:01] <UbuntuFanatic> rww, could I pm you?
[05:01] <genesis-vr> d
[05:01] <rww> UbuntuFanatic: yes
[05:01] <UbuntuFanatic> Okay.
[05:01] <Ben64> ouyes: alex__ has AR928X wireless chip
[05:01] <alex__> 10.04 lucid or soemthing
[05:02] <Ben64> alex__: lsb_release -a
[05:02] <UbuntuFanatic> Bam..
[05:02] <UbuntuFanatic> There's our problem? :P
[05:02] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, chances are the drivers aren't included.
[05:02] <zelo> ahaa found it its apps, nautilus. desktop then de-select volumes_visibie
[05:02] <UbuntuFanatic> zelo, great.
[05:02] <alex__> no lsb modules are available
[05:02] <ouyes> gnosis, ok I give it up, we do have something in common just as we do have something different
[05:02] <gnosis> ouyes: i said that there are many compromised .cn sites, proportionally more than other many other major tlds
[05:02] <Ben64> alex__: lsb_release -a
[05:02] <alex__> i just typed that
[05:02] <alex__> what are you looking for
[05:02] <rww> !ot | gnosis, ouyes
[05:03] <Ben64> the part where it says what version of ubuntu you have
[05:03] <ouyes> rww, thanks, we know that now
[05:03] <alex__> escription:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Release:	10.04 Codename:	lucid
[05:04] <Ben64> alex__: pastebin the output of "lsmod"
[05:04] <quinndell> hello
[05:04] <Ben64> the wireless card you have should be covered by the 'ath9k' module out of the box
[05:04] <ouyes> Ben64, alex__  I know what is the chip set of your wireless card, but I want to see the output of ifconfig , so I will know which is the interface,
[05:04] <ouyes> alex__, maye you do not have a interface
[05:05] <UbuntuFanatic> Ben64, was ath9k in Lucid?
[05:05] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: yep
[05:05] <alex__> what is lsmod doing?
[05:05] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: "ath9k                 329117  0" <-- from my computer, on Lucid
[05:05] <Braiam> alex__: said all modules that you have
[05:05] <ouyes> alex__, make sure that the hardware switch of your wireless is on ?
[05:05] <alex__> http://pastey.net/149095
[05:05] <UbuntuFanatic> ^
[05:05] <alex__> for the 10th time?
[05:05] <UbuntuFanatic> what I said.. :S
[05:06] <alex__> u see why this gets annoying?
[05:06] <Ben64> hm, i see an "ath" module loaded
[05:06] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, we're giving up our free time on a Friday to help you. :P
[05:06] <alex__> i even think he was here when someone else asked the same thing
[05:06] <Ben64> but ath isn't the same as ath9k i'd imagine
[05:06] <UbuntuFanatic> I said "on a Friday" to show that we're all party goers.
[05:06] <Ben64> today is thursday
[05:06] <alex__> for me too.
[05:06] <UbuntuFanatic> Friday here. :P
[05:06] <worldwarcheese> Hello, I need help installing Ubuntu via usb onto my netbook. I have make a drive but everytime I try to install all I get is "keyboard unrecocgnized" and the "boot: " prompt which doesn't allow key entries
[05:06] <alex__> you must be in new zealand
[05:07] <UbuntuFanatic> No.
[05:07] <ouyes> alex__, I decide to help you get your wireless work, just help me to find the problem will you,
[05:07] <UbuntuFanatic> United Kingdom.
[05:07] <UbuntuFanatic> :P
[05:07] <Braiam> from -4000 and above is friday
[05:08] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: if the netbook has an arm processor then I think you need the arm version of ubuntu or the netbook remix/unity
[05:08] <ouyes> alex__, first make sure your hardware switch of wireless function is on, then paste the output of ifconfig
[05:08] <alex__> what are you looking for in my ifconfig
[05:08] <UbuntuFanatic> We need all of it.
[05:09] <UbuntuFanatic> Don't protest, we are trying to help you. We're not evil people.
[05:09] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry if I am across as blunt, by the way.
[05:09] <UbuntuFanatic> Not intended.
[05:09] <worldwarcheese> izinucs: Hmm... I might, I'll double check
[05:09] <Ben64> ouyes, UbuntuFanatic: I bet the wrong module is getting loaded and thats the whole problem, i bet it's not even in ifconfig
[05:09] <Braiam> alex__: the ip configuration
[05:09] <rwhittle> is gnome3 functional under maverick ?
[05:09] <UbuntuFanatic> Ben64: possibly.
[05:09] <UbuntuFanatic> rwhittle, yeah, but not supported if I recall?
[05:09] <alex__> all i see are eth0 and lo
[05:10] <alex__> but let me take some time to mask my hardware addresses
[05:10] <rwhittle> has it matured sufficiently for non-supported use ?
[05:10] <Braiam> alex__: gocha
[05:10] <UbuntuFanatic> update-manager -d, if you want to upgrade to Natty.
[05:10] <Braiam> !natty | rwhittle
[05:10] <Gando-san> ?DCC SEND "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" 0 0 0
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[05:10] <rhizmoe> is there a swank gui ftpd available?
[05:10] <Laggg> $ sudo os-prober
[05:10] <Laggg> ERROR: isw: wrong number of devices in RAID set "isw_dabaddgadi_RAID Hard drive"
[05:10] <rwhittle> Braiam, i am speaking of maverick
[05:10] <Laggg> how do I fix this?
[05:11] <ouyes> Ben64, UbuntuFanatic ,alex_, someone is waiting, we do not need the winner, we need the solution
[05:11] <alex__> http://pastey.net/149096
[05:11] <ouyes> alex__, yes mask the mac
[05:11] <Ben64> ouyes: i never said anything about winners
[05:11] <Braiam> rwhittle: but if you upgrade to natty this isn't the correct place to ask
[05:11] <Laggg> ERROR: isw: wrong number of devices in RAID set "isw_dabaddgadi_RAID Hard drive"
[05:11] <Ben64> alex__: we can't do anything with a mac address
[05:11] <Laggg> how do I fix this?
[05:11] <UbuntuFanatic> ouyes, he's saying we should just find the problem for alex__. No time wasting?
[05:12] <UbuntuFanatic> I think, sorry if I'm wrong, ouyes
[05:12] <wujie>  一位ALS患者在生命走到尽头前用脚贡献了最后一个代码补丁 http://cnbeta.com/articles/139856.htm
[05:12] <ouyes> alex__, have you enabled your wireless,?
[05:12] <rwhittle> Braiam, you must have me confused with someone else.  i did not mention natty in this channel
[05:12] <UbuntuFanatic> oops, *ben64
[05:12] <UbuntuFanatic> D:
[05:12] <alex__> for the 13th time yes
[05:12] <UbuntuFanatic> What does it look like?
[05:12] <ouyes> wujek, English channel here
[05:12] <rww> wujie: You've been told about using English in here before. I don't feel like going through it again.
[05:12] <UbuntuFanatic> (when lookng at the toggle)
[05:12] <alex__> so.. nothing out of the ordinary?
[05:12] <alex__> my battery is going to go away soon
[05:13] <alex__> like half an hour.
[05:13] <ouyes> alex__, wait a moment
[05:13] <UbuntuFanatic> I found chinese Internet Explorer.
[05:13] <Ben64> alex__: your card isn't in there... and you should plug in the laptop :)
[05:13] <UbuntuFanatic> Never knew it existed.
[05:13] <alex__> so i pasted that junk for nothing
[05:13] <alex__> i already said only lo and eht0
[05:13] <Ben64> alex__: no, calm down
[05:13] <UbuntuFanatic> rww, do the Floodbots take shifts or something? :P
[05:14] <mickster04> UbuntuFanatic: one gets tired and another takes over :D.
[05:14] <red2kic> Floodbots are human slaves. They take turns.
[05:14] <UbuntuFanatic> ah. :D
[05:14] <rww> UbuntuFanatic: there are multiple instances to compensate for lag and connection failures, and the rules for how many are opped up are... complicated.
[05:14] <Ben64> alex__: do "sudo modprobe ath9k" and see if that changes the output from "ifconfig" at all
[05:14] <ouyes> alex__,  try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ar928x-detected-by-ubuntu-but-no-access-points-are-visible-694984/
[05:14] <UbuntuFanatic> rww, ah, okay.
[05:14] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, I don't think my eee pc is an ARM machine and I am just using the direct download iso from ubuntu's netbook page
[05:14] <Braiam> alex__: so the atheros module isn't loaded so try modprobe ath or ath9k
[05:15] <alex__> hrm
[05:15] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, looks perfect for you.
[05:15] <worldwarcheese> I've actually used Ubuntu NBR on it before, but I recently installed an Intel SSD (40gb)
[05:15] <alex__> ifconfig is the same after i execute modprobe ath without a warning
[05:15] <alex__> modprobe ath9k gave a warning
 alex__,  try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ar928x-detected-by-ubuntu-but-no-access-points-are-visible-694984/
[05:15] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: which model?
[05:15] <Braiam> ouyes: read his ifconfig output, only eth0 and lo
[05:15] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, 1001he
[05:16] <Braiam> alex__: and is?
[05:16] <[thor]> worldwarcheese: <-- rocking the 64GB Intel X25 SSD
[05:16] <[thor]> as /
[05:16] <Ben64> alex__: what warning
[05:16] <ouyes> Braiam, just give it a try, before you have better advice
[05:17] <worldwarcheese> [thor] haha nice, did you have any issues when trying to install ubuntu afterwards? I don't think it's the problem but I'm just not sure anymore
[05:17] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: is that a model bought outside of the US?
[05:17] <alex__> hrm ath9k actually says fatal
[05:17] <Ben64> what does it say exactly
[05:17] <UbuntuFanatic> ^
[05:17] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, nope. Got it at yer friendly local large compu-retail store
[05:17] <[thor]> worldwarcheese: no problems at all, i even added a second ssd for /home/
[05:17] <Braiam> ouyes: i had one and it was a pain
[05:17] <alex__> ATAL: Error inserting ath9k (/lib/modules/2.6.32-30-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:17] <Obsidian1723> how can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup?
[05:17] <alex__> so none of this actually has to do with user error does it?
[05:18] <[thor]> worldwarcheese: just don't defrag the drive.. ever.. for any reason.
[05:18] <Ben64> alex__: unlikely
[05:18] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, we don't actually know if this is the issue.
[05:18] <worldwarcheese> [thor] then I wonder what the problem could be. I've tried to make other NBR boot drives with the manager but I'm having problem with other usb's "format"ing (no idea why)
[05:18] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: I got on asus's site to reference and didn't come up with anything.. but looks like [thor] says it's an Intel
[05:18] <UbuntuFanatic> [thor]: why? Just wondering. :p
[05:18] <[thor]> izinucs: no no, i use an intel..
[05:18] <alex__> um. so what's next
[05:18] <alex__> how deep am i going to go as a guinea pig giving free qa
[05:18] <Braiam> alex__: why don't try a diferent driver
[05:18] <Ben64> alex__: pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n 20"
[05:19] <worldwarcheese> izinucs: it has an intel atom processor and a newly installed intel SSD (originally had hitachi 160 gb drive)
[05:19] <gaysex``9> the fuck
[05:19] <UbuntuFanatic> Excuse me?
[05:19] <Ben64> !language | gaysex``9
[05:19] <alex__> http://pastey.net/149097
[05:19] <ouyes> alex__,  1 turn the hareware switch on 2 enable your wireless network 3 follow the link I gave you
[05:19] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: just found that.. might be an issue with the ssd.. have you searched the ubuntuforums.org for others with the same problem?
[05:20] <alex__> ouyes, you've been saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over again
[05:20] <[thor]> UbuntuFanatic: there is a long explanation; suffice to say that ssd have a different method for disk usage, and the drive attempts to spread usage over the entire flash memory in order to avoid wearing it out..
[05:20] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, I'm kinda doing that now (I've been away from home all week)
[05:20] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, did you check his link..?
[05:20] <UbuntuFanatic> [thor], ah, thanks for explaining. I'm a bit nosey. :P
[05:20] <alex__> yes
[05:20] <alex__> and it's not really helpful
[05:20] <Obsidian1723> how can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup?
[05:20] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, it'd say it is.
[05:21] <ouyes> alex__, you never did it step by step, you just need to make a fresh installation, you need to download the source code and make install , you will get it work
[05:21] <[thor]> UbuntuFanatic: can't learn a darn thing without being nosey.
[05:21] <pehden> how do i make sudo mv -i (ls -R /* grep | all.lst) ~/Desktop '   work
[05:21] <UbuntuFanatic> [thor], haha. ..thanks? LOL.
[05:21] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, the only thing is the issues i'm getting seem to have to deal with the keyboard not the HD so i'm a little confused as to what to look for
[05:21] <wujie> I'm at school so many years of English, and finally got tired of this foreign language, I am a Chinese native speaker it is not wrong, you also can speak their mother tongue, the language should also open source open source community, inclusive, as the developer Under the Chinese should also learn, is not it
[05:21] <UbuntuFanatic> wujie, this is an English support channel.
[05:21] <alex__> ouyes
[05:22] <alex__> it failed at the first step
[05:22] <Ben64> alex__: does anything come up if you go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[05:22] <Braiam> !ch | wujie
[05:22] <UbuntuFanatic> All nationalities are allowed, but we can't all speak Chinese.
[05:22] <supernaught> hey all!
[05:22] <alex__> something about a video card ben64
[05:22] <pehden> how do i make sudo mv -i (ls -R /* grep | all.lst) ~/Desktop '   work?
[05:22] <UbuntuFanatic> Hey, supernaught.
[05:22] <Ben64> alex__: nothing about wireless?
[05:22] <[thor]> Braiam: maybe check your country codes before doing that.
[05:22] <alex__> nope
[05:22] <ouyes> alex__, sudo apt-get install build-essential? failed?
[05:22] <Braiam> thor: noted
[05:23] <[thor]> !cn > wujie
[05:23] <alex__> even before that ouyes
[05:23] <UbuntuFanatic> !cn | wujie
[05:23] <alex__> you're jumping ahead.
[05:23] <alex__> and i've already installed build essential
[05:23] <supernaught> If I were to replace Gnome or KDE with something like xmonad or ratpoison, how would I change the default window color scheme?
[05:23] <[thor]> mmm yes
[05:23] <supernaught> is it still GTK ?
[05:23] <ouyes> alex__, there is no step before that
[05:23] <alex__> wrong.
[05:23] <alex__> lspci -v
[05:24] <alex__> doesn't show anything that remotely resembles my version of lspci -v
[05:24] <UbuntuFanatic> ...
[05:24] <alex__> all of my atheros*** are 9*** and above
[05:24] <Obsidian1723> how can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup?
[05:24] <UbuntuFanatic> You don't have to shout at us..?
[05:24] <UbuntuFanatic> We're trying to help.
[05:24] <alex__> his is ar242x or osmething like that
[05:24]  * supernaught takes a number and waits his turn...
[05:24] <UbuntuFanatic> What's your issue, supernaught?
[05:25] <UbuntuFanatic> haha, I said issue. Sorry.:P
[05:25] <UbuntuFanatic> What do you need? :)
[05:25] <Braiam> alex__: sorry for ask, but you still have the link of lspci -v
[05:25] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, I just tried an install again to get the exact wording of the error. it says "Unknown keyword in configuration file" no it's nothing with the keyboard i guess
[05:25] <supernaught> wondering about changing the window color scheme without running Gnome or KDE
[05:25] <alex__> the link of lspci -v?
[05:25] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, the similarities.
[05:25] <supernaught> do I change the GTK theme?
[05:25] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, then I get the "boot: " prompt again but it won't allow any entries
[05:25] <izinucs> worldwarcheese: weird.. sorry I don't have any answers....
[05:25] <UbuntuFanatic> supernaught, hello?
[05:26] <supernaught> hi
[05:26] <slackin> <3 Good Evening <3
[05:26] <supernaught> am I speaking french or somethign ?
[05:26] <Ben64> alex__: where in california you live?
[05:26] <Obsidian1723> how can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup? I'm running 10.04.2LTS 32-bit.
[05:26] <alex__> los angeles.
[05:26] <alex__> why ?
[05:26] <UbuntuFanatic> Those opers are ninjas.
[05:26] <UbuntuFanatic> o:
[05:26] <wujie> If you have the French to French, Russians in Russian, but this can also learn from each other's language, the integration is important
[05:26] <alex__> o well. it looks like this isn't working out
[05:26] <hblalak> how do i bring back grub
[05:26] <Ben64> alex__: oh thats kinda far... if you were closer i'd just go and fix it lol
[05:26] <hblalak> i tared the system
[05:26] <ouyes> Braiam, UbuntuFanatic Ben64 alex__  just give me a little time to talk to alex__ , and alex__ every time you talk to someone type his name first, thank you
[05:27] <hblalak> usually in old grub its grub; find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:27] <worldwarcheese> izinucs, haha no problem. at least now I can say it wasn't just me. but now the issue of trying to remake the boot drive is more important. if i can at least troubleshoot by trying on different usbs i'd feel better but none of my usbs seem to be accepting a boot file
[05:27] <UbuntuFanatic> ouyes, okay.
[05:27] <[thor]> Obsidian1723: Settings > Administration > Services ?
[05:27] <UbuntuFanatic> supernaught, hello? What do you need? :)
[05:27] <alex__> i've spent close to 2 hours not having wireless on ubuntu.. i'm keeping track of a lot of metrics of usability so far
[05:27] <[thor]> wujie: that is what #ubuntu-offtopic is for. This channel is for tech support in english language.
[05:27] <supernaught> wondering about changing the window color scheme without running Gnome or KDE
[05:27] <supernaught> do I change the GTK theme?
[05:27] <nit-wit> hblalak, is it maverick
[05:28] <Obsidian1723> I dont see that path thor
[05:28] <hblalak> nit-wit, ubuntu 10.04
[05:28] <alex__> THE English language.
[05:28] <alex__> THE English language.
[05:28] <UbuntuFanatic> supernaught, I am unaware, sorry. :/
[05:28] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, no need to repeat yourself.
[05:28] <hblalak> nit-wit, i believe using grub2
[05:28] <ouyes> alex__, sudo apt-get install build-essential this is the first step
[05:28] <hblalak> nit-wit, not legacy
[05:28] <alex__> done
[05:28] <alex__> ouyes done
[05:28] <hblalak> nit-wit, because it has grub.cfg
[05:28] <worldwarcheese> izinucs: I think i'll be able to make one work, but the problem is i have an old OSX boot on there and for the life of my can't remember how to get it off (it says read-only) which makes me feel all kinds of foolish
[05:28] <nit-wit> hblalak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 this should help
[05:28] <supernaught> UbuntuFanatic: Do you know where I should be asking/looking? I'm quite out of my element
[05:28] <alex__> 0 upgraded 0 installed yada yada yada ouyes
[05:28] <alex__> anything else?
[05:29] <upgrdman> is there a cli command that copy files and display the speed while doing so?
[05:29] <nit-wit> hblalak, defaults to reloading from a live cd
[05:29] <ouyes> alex__,  sudo apt-get install subversion second
[05:29] <UbuntuFanatic> #gtk, #gtk+, maybe? I really don't know. :S
[05:29] <alex__> ouyes done
[05:29] <supernaught> upgrdman: you *could* using rsync or ssh to transfer to the local 127.0.0.1
[05:29] <UbuntuFanatic> It depends on your theme, really.
[05:29] <alex__> type svn help for usage
[05:29] <alex__> etc.
[05:29] <supernaught> ok, tanks
[05:30] <ouyes> alex__, cd ~  and then  mkdir madwifi  third
[05:30] <UbuntuFanatic> no problem, supernaught
[05:30] <alex__> ouyes ok?
[05:30] <hblalak> nit-wit, is it possible to install grub legacy
[05:30] <alex__> what am i checking out of svn now?
[05:30] <alex__> seems kind of sketchy that it wouldn't be in a repository
[05:30] <hblalak> using a live cd that has older grub
[05:31] <bruce_> geda
[05:31] <worldwarcheese> Any help on removing files from a previously made boot-USB that now says "read only" when I need to wipe it to make a fresh install flash drive?
[05:31] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, you don't have to follow our instructions.. these are all just suggestions. :P
[05:31] <ouyes> alex__, cd madwifi  and svn co https://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/branches/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[05:31] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, you want to wipe it?
[05:31] <UbuntuFanatic> What drive is it?
[05:32] <lee__> hello all
[05:32] <nit-wit> hblalak, if you lok at the top of the link it tells you how, but personally I would not blame grub2 here it is different, but has it's benifits.
[05:32] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: yes and it's a PNY 16gb usb flashdrive
[05:32] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, cd into the directory, rm -rf * ?
[05:32] <hblalak> nit-wit, thx
[05:32] <lee__> hows everyone tonight
[05:32] <gnosis> sup lee__
[05:32] <ouyes> alex__, if the download is failed you go here http://madwifi-project.org/  care for the battery
[05:33] <UbuntuFanatic> lee__, great. you?
[05:33] <alex__> care for the battery?
[05:33] <lee__> not much just sitting here
[05:33] <nit-wit> hblalak, if you can read scripts you might run this one and look at your set up or pastebin it.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:33] <ouyes> alex__, here is also ok  http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/
[05:33] <ouyes> alex__,  watch the battery,
[05:33] <lee__> im new to ubuntu
[05:33] <[thor]> Obsidian1723: looks like there is a spiffy-looking GUI in the Software Center.. called 'Boot-Up Manager' ( package is called 'bum' )
[05:34] <ouyes> alex__, where do you go now?
[05:34] <ouyes> alex__, which steps are you in ?
[05:34] <ouyes> alex__, type my name when talk to me
[05:34] <ouyes> alex__, quick you will run out of battery
[05:35] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: sorry if my command line work is a bit lacking but the USB says it's at /dev/sde and when I try to cd that I got as far as /dev$
[05:35] <Braiam> ouyes: maybe it's runout of battery
[05:35] <ouyes> alex__, download the driver and untar it
[05:35] <Comnenus> alex__: what are you trying to do?
[05:35] <UbuntuFanatic> hang on.
[05:35] <pehden> how do i make sudo mv -i (ls -R /* grep | all.lst) ~/Desktop '   work?
[05:36] <ouyes> alex__, get into the untar directory and run sudo make
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, sde would be a file, no.
[05:36] <alex__> ouyes, ok which thing is the install file
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> Erm, I'm not sure actually. D:
[05:36] <alex__> ouyes i'm in the untarred first level directory
[05:36] <gnosis> pehden: what are you trying to do?
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> I don't use USBs much.
[05:36] <alex__> comenus, i'm trying to turn on wireless for the past 2 hours
[05:36] <ouyes> alex__, sudo make
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> *gnosis
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> :P
[05:36] <UbuntuFanatic> comenus was a guy who got klined.
[05:37] <UbuntuFanatic> Not a good mistake to make..
[05:37] <Braiam> ouyes: sudo make?
[05:37] <alex__> ouyes fail
[05:37] <alex__> 20 errors or so
[05:37] <Comnenus> UbuntuFanatic: nope, I'm here.
[05:37] <pehden> gnosis trying to find a file on the harddrive and move it to the desktop
[05:37] <gnosis> UbuntuFanatic: ?
[05:37] <ouyes> alex__, what is the error?
[05:37] <alex__> C errors
[05:37] <UbuntuFanatic> Whoops, Comnesus, I could have sworn somebody got klined with your name/ similar.
[05:37] <Comnenus> UbuntuFanatic: I think you are confusing me with someone else.
[05:37] <alex__> imcompatible pointer s
[05:37] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry.
[05:38] <Comnenus> And you got someone here telling a guy to use svn repos for wireless?  I think you should worry about that.
[05:38] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: that's okay and I can see it on my disk utility as /dev/sde so that's as far as I've gotten. do you at least know how to get past the whole "read only" part? I used to know, but have forgotten long ago
[05:38] <ouyes> alex__, what is the file name  you download
[05:38] <pehden> gnosis how do i make sudo mv -i (ls -R /* grep | all.lst) ~/Desktop '   work?
[05:38] <gnosis> pehden: use find command http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/unix/findcmd.htm
[05:38] <alex__> adwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[05:38] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, wouldn't it just be sudo?
[05:38] <Comnenus> alex__: what is the svn url he gave you?
[05:38] <alex__> madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[05:38] <UbuntuFanatic> or gksudo nautilus
[05:38] <UbuntuFanatic> and just do it from that
[05:38] <alex__> i got it from source forge
[05:38] <ouyes> alex__, ok I have download it now
[05:39] <Braiam> pehden: the /* move our root
[05:39] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: haha yeah, if I remember the command for a wipe. I'm doing this all in-GUI ;_;
[05:39] <Braiam> pehden: maybe ./*
[05:39] <UbuntuFanatic> D:
[05:39] <Ben64> alex__: has the wireless ever worked in ubuntu? whats the output of "uname -a"
[05:39] <alex__> it has worked
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> ...
[05:40] <worldwarcheese> I know, it's shameful but I'm only slowly getting them and this has to be a rush job
[05:40] <alex__> even though the network manager said "disocnnected"
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> When did it stop?
[05:40] <alex__> today
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> After what action?
[05:40] <alex__> turning on computer
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, D:
[05:40] <Ben64> did you do an update? and whats "uname -a" show?
[05:40] <alex__> putting in snow leopard cd
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> mmk, whatever.
[05:40] <alex__> trying to start a vm in virtualbox
[05:40] <UbuntuFanatic> brb
[05:41] <UbuntuFanatic> nvm.
[05:41] <gnosis> pehden: try "sudo mv -i `find / -name foo` ~/Desktop"
[05:41] <alex__> Linux alex-laptop 2.6.32-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 21:30:21 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:41] <alex__> ouyes, i don't think i will follow your directions anymore. why does this madwifi stuff only ahve directions for up to 8.04
[05:41] <alex__> according to the "ubuntu community documentation"
[05:42] <ouyes> alex__, take a look at the file install
[05:42] <Ben64> alex__: so after you used virtualbox it wouldn't work? have you tried removing virtualbox?
[05:42] <alex__> erm..
[05:42] <Rehan> UGHHH
[05:42] <alex__> i need to backup my images from virtualbox
[05:42] <Rehan> i cannot get a stupid port to open on my router
[05:42] <izinucs> alex__: the images will remain if you uninstall vbox..
[05:43] <UbuntuFanatic> Awkward moment, Ben..
[05:43] <UbuntuFanatic> :P
[05:43] <rockworldmi> No grub  menu, but an error message Gnome Power Manager in ubuntu 10.10
[05:43] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: ?
[05:43] <rockworldmi> i am at terminal now need help
[05:43] <UbuntuFanatic> He didn't respond with anything defending Virtualbox, just "erm.."
[05:43] <UbuntuFanatic> :P
[05:43] <izinucs> alex__: but I don't think that vbox is the issue with your wireless.. not sure what is..
[05:43] <Ben64> well i installed virtualbox today, it installs some kernel modules, it **could** be causing a conflict
[05:44] <Ben64> just trying to cover all bases
[05:44] <Neddy> Hello, I'm on 11.04 beta and I don't can't adjust time/date. I've chosen my right timezone but it didn't change
[05:44] <UbuntuN00b> anyone got a min to help me out with grub, just did an advanced install
[05:44] <Neddy> wtf my kb
[05:44] <UbuntuFanatic> Neddy, #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <Braiam> izinucs: alex__ ouyes Ben64 i'm sure that the driver is ok
[05:44] <gnosis> alex__: can you access the wireless connection from inside the vm you were using?
[05:44] <izinucs> UbuntuFanatic: sudo update-grub
[05:44] <alex__> not anymore.
[05:45] <UbuntuFanatic> izinucs: ?
[05:45] <Ben64> Braiam: the module was giving an error on load, i'd say its not ok
[05:45] <ouyes> Braiam, he just need to reinstall the driver
[05:45] <Neddy> okay
[05:45] <Neddy> I'm in
[05:45] <Braiam> alex__: you even tried modprobe -r ath9k and then loaded it again
[05:45] <izinucs> UbuntuFanatic: grub issue?  what is the issue?
[05:45] <[thor]> UbuntuN00b: sudo update-grub
[05:45] <UbuntuFanatic> izincus: I have no issue..
[05:45] <apporc> hi everyone. I am reading the manual of grub2 .and there is one sentence i wonder its meaning.
[05:45] <[thor]> izinucs: wrong nick
[05:45] <UbuntuFanatic> You are confusing me with UbuntuN00b.
[05:45] <Ben64> Braiam: Apr 14 2011 21:17:38 <alex__>	ATAL: Error inserting ath9k (/lib/modules/2.6.32-30-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:45] <apporc> the sentence is :In traditional disk calls (called CHS mode), there is a geometry translation
[05:45] <apporc> problem, that is, the BIOS cannot access over 1024 cylinders, so the accessible
[05:45] <apporc> space is limited to at least 508 MB and to at most 8GB.
 anyone got a min to help me out with grub, just did an advanced install
[05:46] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic, don't know if this helps any but when I plug the flash drive in it is recocgnized by the Boot Disk Creator but not my filesystem...
[05:46] <izinucs> UbuntuFanatic: sorry.. anther nick similar to yours
[05:46] <Braiam> Ben64: ouyes i had one and it give me a headache
[05:46] <UbuntuFanatic>  I only just saw UbuntuN00b's message, or I would have said sooner. :$
[05:46] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, that's really odd.. can't you just format it?
[05:46] <apporc> anyone can explain it.
[05:46] <rockworldmi> No grub  menu, but an error message Gnome Power Manager in ubuntu 10.10
[05:46] <ouyes> alex__, ok sorry so many time waste,
[05:46] <alex__> so i'm guessing no one really has a solid idea of what the problem is. or even how to diagnose it.  is this safe to say?
[05:46] <rockworldmi> and cannot access grub
[05:46] <Braiam> Ben64: so reloading the module isn't a bad idea
[05:47] <alex__> braiam, it errored.
[05:47] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, sure. Free country. :P
[05:47] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: I tried using the Boot Disk Creator and it runs (making /dev/sde1 partition) but then when I try to open the partition to make the install drive nothing happens
[05:47] <Ben64> alex__: i have a decent idea of the problem, not sure of the solution
[05:47] <ouyes> alex__,  go to the synaptic and search wireless
[05:47] <izinucs> alex__: there's been lots of decent diagnostics done.. just nothing yet that has revealed the problem
[05:47] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese: That's really odd. :S
[05:47] <UbuntuN00b> anybody have a minute to help me finish an advanced install (help me make sure grub is set up properly) dual boot 1 harddrive 1cf card
[05:47] <ouyes> alex__, and make the wireless- tools and network-manager reinstall
[05:48] <gnosis> alex__: what version of virtualbox and is your wifi adapter internal or external?
[05:48] <ouyes> alex__, first complete removel
[05:48] <ouyes> alex__, then install
[05:48] <alex__> what am i sudo apt-get removing?
[05:48] <alex__> exactly. before this casues me to disconnect from irc
[05:48] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: you're telling me. I've done this a hundred times over and NEVER seen this problem before.
[05:49] <ouyes> alex__, I tell you this , because I have come across the same problem as you are
[05:49] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, is something different from before?
[05:49] <worldwarcheese> Just to see what happens I'm pro'lly going to go downstairs and try on someone's :shudder: Windows machine out of frustration
[05:49] <UbuntuFanatic> You said the W word. O:
[05:49] <ouyes> alex__, no it wouldnt, go to synaptic
[05:49] <UbuntuFanatic> Kidding. :P
[05:50] <rockworldmi> No grub  menu, but an error message Gnome Power Manager in ubuntu 10.10
[05:50] <rockworldmi> pls help...
[05:50] <Comnenus> Windows has its place.  Just not here.
[05:50] <alex__> synaptic == ubuntu software center right?
[05:50] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: Only that these drives were used in an old SL install that when awry. Now I can't recocgnize, locate, format or remove files from them. It's insane
[05:50] <rww> no
[05:50] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, nononono.
[05:50] <gnosis> alex__: what version of virtualbox and is your wifi adapter internal or external?
[05:50] <ouyes> alex__, no here  system> administrator
[05:50] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, it is. I'm intrigued now.
[05:50] <Ben64> gnosis: it's internal laptop one
[05:51] <alex__> ok i see a wireless-tools
[05:51] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: however, I've already tried on other USB's and the same issues are coming up. In fact, every drive attatched to my machine is seen as an unrecocgnized drive that needs "format"ing before I can use through the USB startup disk creator or whatever it's called
[05:51] <ouyes> alex__, system >administration>synaptic package manager
[05:52] <worldwarcheese> If I didn't need a working netbook by 7AM it'd be wicked interesting and I'd even show my roomates, but I have a flight to catch and this is the last thing I needed ;_;
[05:52] <ouyes> alex__, search wireless and  right click wireless-tools choose complete removel
[05:52] <alex__> so it's network-manager-pptp and wireless tools i need to reinstall ouyes?
[05:52] <ouyes> alex__, so the network-manager-pptp
[05:52] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese: Sounds just like Window-
[05:52] <UbuntuFanatic> xD
[05:52] <alex__> and this won't cause me to disconnect form irc?
[05:53] <Ben64> alex__: probably not
[05:53] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic: Haha too right. And I hate to do and try Windows to solve the problem but I'm running out of time >_<
[05:53] <Technicus> Hello . . . is it possible to append a repository to the sources.list using cat?
[05:53] <ouyes> alex__, not reinstall, first complete removl
[05:53] <alex__> do i now how to reboot like windows?
[05:53] <UbuntuFanatic> worldwarcheese, I'm the same. I refuse to use it unless I have to. :/
[05:53] <UbuntuFanatic> and you never HAVE to.
[05:53] <ouyes> alex__, then install
[05:53] <lahwran> anyone know if this is trustworthy? http://stereopsis.com/flux/
[05:54] <gnosis> google shows several people reporting virtualbox killing wifi drivers.  if it was working before vbox install, and not after, then vbox is likely the cause
[05:54] <red2kic> lahwran: I used it in the past. Meh. I went back to bright screen.
[05:54] <gnosis> Technicus: cat reads files
[05:54] <alex__> ouyes
[05:54] <alex__> it says i have to remove ubuntu desktop
[05:54] <worldwarcheese> I'll brb see what I can accomplish on a different OS right now. I'm honestly not expecting it to work, but maybe I'll be able to format them at least (who knows? I'll just trust in The Force for now). I'll keep you updated (if it works or not)
[05:54] <UbuntuFanatic> You're just trolling now.
[05:54] <ouyes> alex__, you are kiding
[05:54] <alex__> ?
[05:55] <alex__> screenshot?
[05:55] <ouyes> alex__, wait
[05:55] <Ben64> alex__: i believe you
[05:55] <gnosis> Technicus: "cat file1 >> file2" will append the contents of file1 to the end of file2
[05:55] <Sinistar> I'm here for this reason as well: <lahwran> anyone know if this is trustworthy? http://stereopsis.com/flux/
[05:55] <red2kic> lahwran: I think there are different package name that does it -- but I can't remember it.
[05:55] <UbuntuFanatic> Sinistar, it is.
[05:55] <rob_p> Technicus: you could cat the new source and redirect the output to the sources.list.  Just make sure to use, ">>" and not, ">" otherwise you'll overwrite the file with *only* the new source.
[05:55] <UbuntuFanatic> Sinistar, I use it, Wakoopa shows a bunch of users..
[05:55] <UbuntuFanatic> good result(s)
[05:55] <gnosis> Sinistar: i use flux
[05:55] <ouyes> alex__, ok  select removel not complete removel
[05:55] <Khisanth> some sort of conflict that required removing the wireless tools would explain why wireless would suddenly stop working :)
[05:56] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, screenshot.
[05:56] <UbuntuFanatic> doit.
[05:56] <ouyes> alex__, removal
[05:56] <Technicus> gnosis: rob_p: I tried it using sudo and permission was denied.
[05:56] <alex__> same thing ouyes
[05:56] <UbuntuFanatic> I really disbelieve anything would ask you to kill off gnome-desktop.
[05:56] <red2kic> lahwran: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/redshiftgui-protects-your-eyes-when.html
[05:56] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: it happens if you try to remove a package that is in base ubuntu
[05:56] <gnosis> Sinistar: hard to honestly say if it works, placebo effect and all
[05:56] <UbuntuFanatic> perhaps, but it just adds up.
[05:56] <red2kic> lahwran: I used it in the past so I can confirm it does change your monitor colors.
[05:56] <gnosis> Technicus: paste command you used
[05:57] <Ben64> ouyes, alex__: i can't help but think you're going the wrong way in trying to solve this problem
[05:57] <ouyes> alex__, do nothing and left the synaptic
[05:57] <Technicus> $  sudo cat >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[05:57] <Technicus> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[05:57] <gnosis> Technicus: no, you have to give it a file to read from
[05:57] <gnosis> Technicus: "cat file1 >> file2" will append the contents of file1 to the end of file2
[05:57] <lahwran> Technicus: sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null
[05:57] <ouyes> alex__, go into the synaptic again and make the two for removal
[05:57] <lahwran> Technicus: WAIT DON"T DO THAT
[05:57] <ouyes> alex__, and apply
[05:58] <lahwran> Technicus: sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null
[05:58] <alex__> it still says remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <alex__> where's a picture pasting site
[05:58] <Ben64> ouyes: why do you want him to remove network managers, thats not the problem
[05:58] <ouyes> alex__, trust me just a few steps ahead
[05:58] <UbuntuFanatic> tinypic.com?
[05:58] <Comnenus> lahwran: seriously
[05:58] <gnosis> Technicus: are you just wanting to add one line to sources.list?
[05:58] <lahwran> Comnenus: :s
[05:58] <alex__> hrm. another statistic: given wrong directions twice?
[05:59] <alex__> i don't even know.
[05:59] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, you can just leave.
[05:59] <UbuntuFanatic> You don't have to be helped by us
[05:59] <Technicus> Yep, but I am weening myself off of gui and want to do as much as possible from command.
[05:59] <UbuntuFanatic> You don't have to criticise us.
[05:59] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: nobody is helping him, honestly
[05:59] <UbuntuFanatic> I know.
[05:59] <gnosis> either do "sudo echo "blah" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" or "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:59] <gnosis> Technicus: ^
[05:59] <izinucs> alex__: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[06:00] <Ben64> Technicus: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[06:00] <gnosis> Technicus: there are plenty of cli editors to use
[06:00] <alex__> you'd make a great employee ubuntufanatic.  i can't help u. get out of myf ace
[06:00] <ouyes> alex__, after apply the removal reload and search wireless again and find the two you just remove and mark them install and apply
[06:00] <alex__> make sure u apply for support
[06:00] <lahwran> !u | alex__
[06:00] <ouyes> alex__, are you there
[06:00] <UbuntuFanatic> alex__, I never said "get out of my face"
[06:00] <UbuntuFanatic> I said don't criticise us all..
[06:00] <lahwran> UbuntuFanatic: /ignore
[06:00] <Technicus> gnosis: I don't want to open an editor if I don't have to.
[06:00] <UbuntuFanatic> Yeah, I'm going to, lahwran.
[06:00] <alex__> alex__, you can just leave
[06:00] <gnosis> UbuntuFanatic: just quit helping him if he's still being rude
[06:01] <alex__> can you imagine if someone said that to you ?
[06:01] <UbuntuFanatic> Okay.
[06:01] <alex__> "you can just hang up the phone"
[06:01] <Comnenus> He's rude as shit.
[06:01] <alex__> but since u think im' trolling when it asks to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <jazzhoo> hej guys!
[06:01] <UbuntuFanatic> Ugh, /trollable
[06:01] <UbuntuFanatic> D:
[06:01] <jazzhoo> im facing a strange problem
[06:01] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic, ouyes, alex__: the problem is that ath9k is not able to load right now. it's not because the switch is off, or that the network manager isn't seeing a network or anything like that
[06:01] <gnosis> alex__: we don't think you're trolling, we think you're rude to people spending their free time helping you fix something you broke
[06:02] <a3Deb> if u want to troll just say racist words like i hate niggers
[06:02] <jazzhoo> i can't log in as root.. wrong password
[06:02] <alex__> gnosis, ubuntu fanatic does.
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> a3Deb, some people are more creative. :3
[06:02] <jazzhoo> i couldn't forget it
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> jazzhoo, root is disabled by default.
[06:02] <Comnenus> jazzhoo: check capslock?
[06:02] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[06:02] <alex__> UbuntuFanatic> You're just trolling now.
[06:02] <ouyes> alex__, body follow my steps do nothing and  left synaptic and  go into synaptic again search wireless and mark the two for removal and apply reload then mark the two install apply
[06:02] <izinucs> jazzhoo: you don't log in as root
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> ^
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> You CAN do it
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> but it's dangerous.
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> sudo is all I need.
[06:02] <izinucs> right
[06:02] <FloodBot3> UbuntuFanatic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <a3Deb> how is it dangerous
[06:02] <UbuntuFanatic> Fast typer. :$
[06:03] <jazzhoo> yea but i can't even use a "sudo"
[06:03] <gnosis> Technicus: try nano.  if that's still not low-level enough for you do "echo "blah" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:03] <jazzhoo> or "su"
[06:03] <izinucs> !root | a3Deb
[06:03] <DaGeek247> is signing the CoC good?
[06:03] <gnosis> Technicus: be sure you do >>, not >.  >> appends, > will blank the file
[06:03] <UbuntuFanatic> DaGeek247, you decide. (;
[06:03] <ouyes> alex__, give my solution a try, you will have nothing to lose
[06:03] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic, ouyes, alex__: the problem is that ath9k is not able to load right now. it's not because the switch is off, or that the network manager isn't seeing a network or anything like that
[06:03] <a3Deb> holy crap 0_0
[06:03] <ningchi> su -c is also safe
[06:03] <lahwran> so does anyone recommend *against* redshift/f.lux?
[06:03] <Comnenus> jazzhoo: did you add yourself to wheel in /etc/group?
[06:03] <Ben64> ouyes: you're just wasting time
[06:03] <izinucs> DaGeek247: not signing it is "not bad" either
[06:04] <alex__> ben64 is there any steps to make it load?
[06:04] <UbuntuFanatic> Ben64, yeah, I see. I'm just not helping anymore, he's being rude and such.
[06:04] <UbuntuFanatic>  /ignore<3
[06:04] <gnosis> lahwran: it may or may not give you brain cancer
[06:04] <Ben64> UbuntuFanatic: you are rude too
[06:04] <Comnenus> Ben64: seems like most are wasting time =/
[06:04] <jazzhoo> Comnenus, i didn't
[06:04] <ouyes> alex__, if you do what I say, we willnot waste the time
[06:04] <UbuntuFanatic> Ben64, how..?
[06:04] <powergoal> Technicus: set -o noclobber will fix the risk of >  vs  >>
[06:04] <UbuntuFanatic> I had 2 people tell me to ignore him.
 You're just trolling now
[06:04] <Comnenus> jazzhoo: do that first.  Login as root, visudo, add your login name to the end of wheel:
[06:04] <lahwran> gnosis: that's true of anything
[06:04] <a3Deb> i love how helpful everyone is in irc
[06:04] <Ben64> alex__: Reverse what you did between it working and it not working?
[06:05] <UbuntuFanatic> When I said, "you can just leave"; I meant: "if you do not accept our help, you CAN leave if you wish."
[06:05] <alex__> how is saying "it's asking me to remove Ubuntu-desktop" trolling?
[06:05] <DaGeek247> so signing the CoC is symbolic of my agreeing, but symbolic of nothing if i ignore the CoC?
[06:05] <UbuntuFanatic> not
[06:05] <UbuntuFanatic> "GET OUT NOW!!!"
[06:05] <Ben64> !ot | UbuntuFanatic
[06:05] <gnosis> lahwran: yes it is
[06:05] <alex__> Ben64, i'm not sure that's possible.
[06:05] <UbuntuFanatic> I'm aware.
[06:05] <mark105> does any one know where i can get the b44 kernel module from? cant get my nic going
[06:05] <IdleOne> EVERYBODY STOP THE CROSS TALK and get back to support please
[06:05] <rww> Alrighty, this is getting boring. You're all going to stop talking about who's trolling who, and ignore people that you don't want to talk with now.
[06:05] <a3Deb> we knead more operators
[06:05] <Ben64> alex__: what exactly did you do before it stopped working?
[06:05] <IdleOne> a3Deb: there are plenty around.
[06:06] <a3Deb> floodbot is just being gay.... :(
[06:06] <UbuntuFanatic> ...
[06:06] <UbuntuFanatic> Offensive.
[06:06] <rww> a3Deb: Don't use "gay" as a pejorative.
[06:06] <a3Deb> lol
[06:06] <alex__> I put in a macosx snow leopard cd, then tried to create a new virtualbox image and the cd spun for a little, i saw a bunch of dots, the dots stopped coming, i turned off the vm and deleted it
[06:06] <Ben64> IdleOne: how come ops only get +o for like 3 seconds to do something?
[06:06] <UbuntuFanatic> a3Deb, it's not funny.
[06:06] <UbuntuFanatic> anyway
[06:06] <IdleOne> Ben64: no need to keep the hat on.
[06:06] <powergoal> IdleOne: i like hats...
[06:06] <a3Deb> gay is not funny it's overused and it lost its meaning
[06:06] <Ben64> alex__: have you... rebooted since?
[06:07] <alex__> i rebooted at least once
[06:07] <alex__> since i was in windows and had to go wired.
[06:07] <Comnenus> ...ok...
[06:07] <DaGeek247> hats make sweaty heads any day. IdleOne is right, no need to keep a hat on.
[06:07] <Ben64> alex__: well i'm not really a kernel module expert. i hope someone here can help you with your actual problem, and not lead you on a goose chase. good luck.
[06:08] <UbuntuFanatic> a3Deb, bang on the dot. & It's meaning is that of a normal one; and is normally used as a word to deteriorate person(s)/things.
[06:08] <InfectedSoul> hello im looking for a site that could help me learn how to write a batch script for regualr users to get znc and to install it with one simple command
[06:08] <alex__> o well. bye. i think i'll just install macosx not as an image. over ubuntu
[06:08] <Ben64> alex__: less likely to work
[06:08] <alex__> it's almost "free" anyways. i have a friend with a hackintosh
[06:09] <IdleOne> alex__: sounds like a plan. Can we please stick to Ubuntu support now.
[06:09] <jazzhoo> Comneus, looks like it worked, thank You!
[06:09] <Peter_sun_kv> \join #ubuntu-cn
[06:10] <izinucs> InfectedSoul: there's lots of sites out there for that .. google bash scripts.. not batch scripts
[06:10] <Hunterm> r
[06:11] <abstrakt> InfectedSoul, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[06:11] <abstrakt> InfectedSoul, /join #bash
[06:11] <FloodBot3> abstrakt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <jazzhoo> thanks guys, bye
[06:13] <alex__> good bye. forget about year of the linux desktop.
[06:15] <abstrakt> wow, sensitive flood bot
[06:15] <RTFMasshole> i think someone is attacking it
[06:15] <DaGeek247> this channel gets filled up easily.
[06:15] <IdleOne> RTFMasshole: Please change your nick to a family friendly #ubuntu compliant one
[06:16] <mauro_1211> test
[06:16] <IdleOne> RTFM: still not appropriate
[06:16] <RTFM> good?
[06:16] <UbuntuN00b> anybody have a minute to help me finish an advanced install (help me make sure grub is set up properly) dual boot 1 harddrive 1cf card
[06:16] <UbuntuFanatic> What does RTFM mean?
[06:16] <abstrakt> what's wrong with mass holes?
[06:16] <RTFM> i don't know
[06:16] <powergoal> RTFM: RTMP would work? read the man please?
[06:16] <IdleOne> thank you
[06:17] <ouyes> alex__, http://mikebeach.org/2010/10/atheros-ar928x-on-ubuntu-linux/ though you are not here
[06:17] <Milossh> hello. I have installed ubuntu desktop on vbox. Now, I only need a webserver, so, is there a way for me to totally remove desktop env without messing up with something else?
[06:17] <RTMP> i like rt**
[06:18] <Braiam> ouyes: can i pm you?
[06:18] <RTMP> it sends a good message
[06:18] <red2kic> Milossh: Install Ubuntu Server iso.
[06:18] <Milossh> or disabling it so it starts only with console
[06:18] <Milossh> red2kic: I did, it didn't work pretty well
[06:18] <ouyes> Braiam, what do you mean by pm?
[06:18] <Milossh> I had a lot of probs related to network
[06:18] <ChessTeach> can someone help me find a program that can convert a mpg to a mp4 file?
[06:18] <RTMP> PM- Personal Message
[06:19] <ouyes> Braiam, yes certainly you can
[06:19] <Milossh> so, there's no way to disable desktop environment?
[06:19] <ChessTeach> i tried about 3 or 4 progams and none of them seem to work
[06:19] <Milossh> so at least no GUI after boot
[06:19] <RTMP> All the good converters are on Windows
[06:19] <DaGeek247> ChessTeach - zamzar.com
[06:19] <RTMP> There's nothing good for ubuntu
[06:19] <UbuntuFanatic> I'm going to head off.
[06:20] <ChessTeach> awesome thanks DaGeek247
[06:20] <DaGeek247> RTMP - saurbraten.com
[06:20] <determinology> This ubuntu 11.04 beta 2 is kinda nice
[06:20] <DaGeek247> your welcome ChessTeach
[06:21] <RTMP> DaGeek247: Nothing good... website is dead. Use Windows
[06:21] <cl3tUs> I need some help again...   My nvidia x server is doing something where I can't drag something from one monitor the the other, but the second monitor has its own top and bottom panel as if it is a separate x screen, but I didnt' set that up.  It is also cutting off some the top and bottom off on the right screen.
[06:21] <UbuntuN00b> anybody have a mintue to help me finish out my advanced ubuntu install
[06:21] <cl3tUs> It's an ASUS card using NVIDIA X Server stuff.
[06:22] <DaGeek247> sauer isnt dead lol. next in line is assault.cubers.net and then intrepidz.tk etc...
[06:23] <gnugr> !ask | UbuntuN00b
[06:23] <UbuntuN00b> kk
[06:23] <subramk> Hello there, please help me from annoying xserver bug
[06:23] <RTMP> !over9000 | ubottu
[06:24] <hateball> !details | subramk
[06:24] <RTMP> !over 9000
[06:24] <RTMP> !ask | over 9000
[06:24] <subramk> ubuttu: my system freezes as soon as the login screen
[06:25] <RTMP> subramk it's a bot
[06:25] <RTMP> ubottu is a bot
[06:26] <subramk> ubottu: I was using ubuntu 10.10, it was working fine some updates has caused this issue. Since i was planning to upgrade to 11.04 i downloaded the iso and made a bootable usb
[06:26] <^Phantom^> What is a good Windows (XP) program that can view and control my Ubuntu desktop via VNC?  I can't get RemoteVNC to see the computer.
[06:26] <Tm_T> !guidelines > RTMP
[06:27] <subramk> ubottu: even with 11.04 the system freezes. please guide me to resolve this problem. I am having H55 intel integrated video card
[06:27] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: tightvnc, realvnc also see ##windows
[06:27] <RTMP> Why do I need guidelines?
[06:27] <^Phantom^> iceroot, thank you.  I'll look into them. :)
[06:27] <iceroot> RTMP: else /kick
[06:27] <foowaffle> hey guys does anyone know how to setup the logitech g13 in ubuntu if it possible?
[06:27] <subramk> RTMP: bot?
[06:27] <RTMP> What did I do?
[06:28] <RTMP> I changed my nick, now what?
[06:28] <iceroot> RTMP: everything fine
[06:28] <subramk> hateball: my system freezes as soon as the login screen
[06:28] <RTMP> Yes, I can confirm that I am indeed a bot.
[06:28] <Tm_T> RTMP: this channel is for providing support for Ubuntu, nothing else
[06:30] <rob_p> d
[06:31] <Laggg> hey guys im having some problems with grub2
[06:32] <Laggg> i keep getting this error
[06:32] <Laggg> ERROR: isw: wrong number of devices in RAID set "isw_dabaddgadi_RAID Hard drive"
[06:32] <UbuntuN00b> anybode want to walk me through the last steps of grub
[06:32] <Laggg> i have two seperate HDDs and grub2 isnt even loading at boot, but its installed
[06:33] <Laggg> os-prober gives me the same error too: ERROR: isw: wrong number of devices in RAID set "isw_dabaddgadi_RAID Hard drive"
[06:33] <cl3tUs> I need some help again...   My nvidia x server is doing something where I can't drag something from one monitor the the other, but the second monitor has its own top and bottom panel as if it is a separate x screen, but I didnt' set that up.  It is also cutting off some the top and bottom off on the right screen.
[06:33] <cl3tUs> It's an ASUS card using NVIDIA X Server stuff.
[06:33] <thegoodcushion> The version of gcc that I seem to have on my machine is 4.4.5.  Is it possible for me to get a different version (just to test my build)?  Is there another version in the repos?
[06:34] <UbuntuN00b> anybode want to walk me through the last steps of grub?
[06:34] <Laggg> UbuntuN00b, which last steps?
[06:37] <UbuntuN00b> grub help ? anyone
[06:38] <Laggg> yeah, both of us need grub2 help!
[06:42] <alanonymous> anyone recommend a good free irc client?
[06:42] <Milossh> xchat
[06:42] <UbuntuN00b> mirc
[06:42] <IdleOne> !irc
[06:42] <IdleOne> hmm
[06:43] <alanonymous> !irc
[06:43] <Milossh> UbuntuN00b: mirc is not free
[06:43] <UbuntuN00b> anyone have a minute to help me check my grub
[06:43] <^Phantom^> iceroot, Ubuntu keeps telling me to use 'localhost', but tightVNC keeps telling me it's not a valid server.  What do I do from here?
[06:43] <cl3tUs> alanonymous, I am currently using XChat.  Pretty easy to install and use.
[06:43] <thegoodcushion> How do I install a different version of gcc on Ubuntu 10.10?
[06:43] <gabe> how can i burn an iso to usb?
[06:44] <Milossh> gabe: boot disk creator
[06:44] <Milossh> system>administration
[06:44] <subramk> gabe: do u have ubuntu?
[06:44] <UbuntuN00b> sasu is pretty asy gabe
[06:44] <gabe> yes
[06:44] <gabe> i have ubuntu
[06:45] <cl3tUs> gabe, I have used unetbootin using Windows at work, but in Ubuntu, I'm not sure.  I haven't used anything yet :(
[06:45] <cl3tUs> I'm learning still.
[06:45] <IdleOne> !usb
[06:45] <aaron_c> hi, is there a default shortcut to make the font size in your terminal smaller?
[06:45] <subramk> gabe: its easy to create disk creator from ubuntu
[06:45] <Milossh> gabe: system>administration>startup disk creator
[06:45] <subramk> gabe: if you are planning to create ubuntu usb stick from ubuntu then use start up disk creator
[06:46] <Khisanth> aaron_c: which terminal are you using?
[06:46] <digirak> hey I am having some trouble with the unity desktop
[06:46] <subramk> gabe: else use UNetbootin
[06:46] <digirak> i had installed it on ubuntu10.10
[06:46] <digirak> I did not quite like it
[06:46] <digirak> so I uninstalled it
[06:46] <gabe> yes i will try usin unetbootin
[06:46] <UbuntuN00b> grub2 help ubuntu netbook edition
[06:46] <digirak> now I am not able to go back to my gnome deskto
[06:47] <Laggg> can someone help me out with grub2?
[06:47] <Laggg> its not recognizing my win7 HDD
[06:48] <aaron_c> Khisanth: i'm using the default ubuntu terminal
[06:48] <^Phantom^> iceroot, I just tried 192.168.2.13:5900, and I've got "Connecting to 192.168.2.13..., Status:  Connection Established"
[06:48] <gabe> in unetbootin where it says 'select distrubution" do i  choose ubuntu if i would like to burn a windows 7 iso?
[06:49] <Khisanth> aaron_c: for the oen in Applications->Accessories you can just go to Edit -> Current Profile and change it from there
[06:49] <^Phantom^> But I'm not getting the remote (this, ubuntu) display.
[06:49] <Khisanth> or right click on the terminal and select Edit Current Profile
[06:49] <aaron_c> Khisanth: ah i see.  is there a keyboard shortcut though?
[06:50] <Khisanth> aaron_c: well that is permanent so ...
[06:50] <aaron_c> Khisanth: i want to be able to change it on the fly, and i think i stumbled across the shortcut somehow but cant remember what i did
[06:50] <^Phantom^> Just the "connection established" dialog.
[06:50] <cl3tUs> I need some help again...   My nvidia x server is doing something where I can't drag something from one monitor the the other, but the second monitor has its own top and bottom panel as if it is a separate x screen, but I didnt' set that up.  It is also cutting off some the top and bottom off on the right screen.
[06:50] <Laggg> can someone help me with grub2?
[06:50] <Khisanth> but you could create multiple profiles with different font sizes
[06:50] <cl3tUs> It's an ASUS card using NVIDIA X Server stuff.
[06:50] <Laggg> can someone help me with grub2?
[06:50] <Laggg> can someone help me with grub2?
[06:50] <aaron_c> Khisanth: hmm i see.  so there's no keyboard shortcut to do it temporarily?
[06:50] <gabe> need help with unetbootin
[06:51] <Khisanth> aaron_c: I don't recall ever running into that
[06:51] <subramk> please help me with the weired issue with ubuntu
[06:53] <aaron_c> Khisanth: mmk, thanks
[06:54] <cl3tUs> gabe are you on windows?
[06:54] <cl3tUs> The way I use it, on the bottom side, you can select "ISO" and navigate to it.
[06:54] <Khisanth> aaron_c: closest I can think of is creating a shortcut that opens a terminal with a particular profile
[06:55] <Khisanth> but nothing like ctrl++ or ctrl+- in a browser
[06:56] <UbuntuN00b> grub2 help ubuntu netbook edition
[06:57] <jwatke> k
[06:57] <aaron_c> Khisanth: ooo i figured it out
[06:57] <aaron_c> Khisanth: ctrl+- to make it samller
[06:57] <cl3tUs> gabe - what part do you need help with?
[06:57] <aaron_c> Khisanth: ctrl+shift++ to make it bigger
[06:58] <jwatke> when is the next kernel coming out
[06:59] <Khisanth> aaron_c: heh I didn't try the -
[07:02] <Computer> are there there any known rootkits that work on ubuntu 10.04.2 ?
[07:04] <smw> Computer, why do you ask?
[07:04] <Laggg> is there any "really cool" ubutun 64-bit ISO?
[07:04] <Laggg> like, an updated new new one?
[07:04] <Computer> smw: rooting a client's box
[07:04] <smw> Computer, for what purpose would you root a clients box?
[07:05] <Computer> meh, figure id ask. he comes back soon
[07:05] <Computer> smw: because he screwed it up and doesn't have a root password
[07:05] <smw> Computer, I can get you the root password
[07:05] <Computer> or a password to a normal user on the sudoers list
[07:05] <Computer> smw: oh yeah?
[07:05] <smw> Computer, turn off the computer, when grub comes up go into edit mode
[07:05] <smw> I think you click "e"
[07:05] <Computer> yeah
[07:06] <smw> then add single to the end of the kernel line
[07:06] <smw> that gives you root and you can change the password of a user
[07:06] <smw> Computer, after you change the password, restart and login
[07:06] <Computer> aaahh good call smw
[07:06] <Computer> hahah
[07:07] <Computer> wait single user mode doesn't require the root password?
[07:07] <smw> Computer, I don't believe so.
[07:07] <Computer> aw crap apparently the server is in another state
[07:07] <Computer> (im helping a friend)
[07:07] <smw> Computer, I think single user mode just starts a shell as init
[07:07] <Computer> yeah
[07:08] <Ansikt> further tests to preform?
[07:08] <smw> Computer, "in another state"?
[07:08] <Ansikt>  Having some difficulty getting X to behave.  My backlight does not turn on at boot (I have to close my laptop lid and open it again), and my brightness is "stuck" at 100 percent, despite what the /sys/class/backlight files are telling me.  I'm running a Gateway NV79 laptop with lspci reporting a "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)" as my graphics chipset and module i915
  loaded.  Any suggestions or further tests to preform?  Oh!  And my kernel is 2.6.35-28-generic
[07:09] <Ansikt> Any help is appreciated!
[07:09] <Computer> smw: its remote
[07:09] <smw> Computer, rooting a box remotely is supposed to be impossible...
[07:09] <smw> Computer, you need physical access to break into it.
[07:10] <soreau> Ansikt: You could try upgrading the driver stack by installing xorg-edgers repo
[07:10] <worldwarcheese> UbuntuFanatic and izinucs, an update: I was 'saved' by... windows... VISTA (DAMN!) but now I have a bootdisk and a netbook with 10.10NBR and I feel safe again (like wrapped in blankets). Thanks for all yer help
[07:10] <Computer> thanks smw
[07:10] <Ansikt> Thanks, soreau, I'll get back to you after I try that
[07:10] <^Phantom^> smw, so is getting the remote desktop program to send the screen to a vnc client
[07:10] <soreau> Ansikt: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo reboot
[07:11] <smw> ^Phantom^, eh?
[07:11] <soreau> Ansikt: Optionally, install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental for potentially better 3D drivers
[07:11] <smw> ^Phantom^, why does that require local?
[07:12] <cl3tUs> I need some help again...   My nvidia x server is doing something where I can't drag something from one monitor the the other, but the second monitor has its own top and bottom panel as if it is a separate x screen, but I didnt' set that up.  It is also cutting off some the top and bottom off on the right screen.
[07:12] <cl3tUs> It's an ASUS card using NVIDIA X Server stuff.
[07:12] <pehden> any one work at an Alorica
[07:12] <^Phantom^> Can't get any vnc program to get it to show up on my windows XP laptop.
[07:12] <Ansikt> Would I chuck in $sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental after upgrade and before reboot?
[07:12] <bazhang> !ot | pehden
[07:12] <^Phantom^> realvnc, tightvnc, and remotevnc
[07:12] <UbuntuN00b> anyovdy help with grub2 netbook remix dual boot
[07:13] <pehden> yea bazhang i know but its a simple yes/no
[07:13] <soreau> ^Phantom^: It works from linux clients?
[07:13] <^Phantom^> smw, tightvnc will tell me that the connection is established, but nothing comes up.
[07:13] <cl3tUs> ^Phantom^, Is your XP on your laptop a VM?
[07:13] <bazhang> pehden, try #ubuntu-offtopic this is NOT the place
[07:13] <smw> ^Phantom^, don't know what to tell you. I don't use VNC, only ssh
[07:14] <smw> ^Phantom^, vnc seems useless when you have ssh and x-forwarding
[07:14] <smw> not to mention rdesktop
[07:14] <pehden> how do i make Xchat ubuntu load a set amount of channels on load
[07:15] <^Phantom^> soreau, this machine is the only linux box
[07:15] <soreau> pehden: A set amount?
[07:15] <^Phantom^> And smw, what in the heck is ssh?
[07:15] <bazhang> pehden, edit server and add auto join #chanone,#chantwo
[07:15] <smw> pehden, you need to edit the server.
[07:15] <soreau> ^Phantom^: In sys>prefs>remote desktop on the linux ox, what does it have set?
[07:15] <smw> ^Phantom^, is that a joke?
[07:15] <soreau> box*
[07:15] <smw> !ssh | ^Phantom^
[07:15] <pehden> ok thanks i knew there was a way but forgot where it was
[07:15] <soreau> smw: No, he uses windows, it isnt a joke :P
[07:16] <dr0id> hi guiz
[07:16] <dr0id> any command that can list the apps along with the ports on which they are running ?
[07:16] <codex84> i have bleachbt 8.0.1 i wanna upgrade to 0.8.7 which is the latest release.
[07:16] <soreau> dr0id: Is there any sense to misspell guys when its the same amount of letters?
[07:16] <codex84> how i do that
[07:16] <codex84> ?
[07:16] <MethodMan> my first time on this
[07:16] <MethodMan> anyone willing to give me a tutorial
[07:17] <smw> dr0id, netstat -ltpu
[07:17] <soreau> MethodMan: What do you want to know in specific?
[07:17] <Ansikt> soreau, it's a slightly different pronunciation.  A little bit more oily.
[07:17] <smw> dr0id, that is one of the few commands where I have no idea what the different flags do... but it works :-P
[07:17] <soreau> Ansikt :P
[07:17] <dr0id> smw: heh
[07:17] <MethodMan> what types of questions can be answered on this?
[07:17] <dr0id> soreau: sorry if I hurt your feelings
[07:17] <revilodraw> hi, i'm running 10.10 and i would like to disable the history function of the 'go' menu in folders. i have looked everywhere on the forum and cannot find any help
[07:18] <soreau> MethodMan: This is the official support channel for ubuntu, so anything related to ubuntu
[07:18] <smw> MethodMan, anything ubuntu related
[07:18] <pehden_> hmm didnt work
[07:18] <soreau> dr0id: You arent hurting my feelings you are just making your self not so intelligent
[07:18] <MethodMan> my computer science teacher told me about irc to get help with programming
[07:18] <UbuntuN00b> anyovdy help with grub2 netbook remix dual boot
[07:18] <smw> MethodMan, which language?
[07:18] <smw> MethodMan, each language has a channel.
[07:19] <soreau> dr0id: You arent hurting my feelings you are just making yourself seem not so intelligent*
[07:19] <MethodMan> java...i am also learning c++ and would also like to learn as much about gnu/linux in general as possible
[07:19] <dr0id> hi guys*
[07:19] <soreau> MethodMan: /j #java,##c++
[07:19] <soreau> MethodMan: /j #3linux
[07:19] <smw> MethodMan, that is ##linux not #3linux
[07:20] <soreau> MethodMan: /j ##linux
[07:20] <MethodMan> are those servers or channels
[07:20] <soreau> dr0id: Hello!
[07:20] <smw> MethodMan, channels
[07:20] <dr0id> hi soreau :)
[07:20] <soreau> MethodMan: They are channels on this server
[07:20] <smw> MethodMan, you are right now on the freenode irc network.
[07:20] <Ansikt> for a second that looked like it was gonna be a flame war *pshew!*
[07:20] <soreau> MethodMan: This is irc.freenode.net server
[07:20] <dr0id> and the network should be spanning many servers :)
[07:20] <MethodMan> so xchat is a gui for irc?
[07:21] <soreau> MethodMan: Yes
[07:21] <soreau> !info xchat | MethodMan
[07:21] <smw> MethodMan, yes it is an irc client
[07:21] <smw> MethodMan, something is a gui of something else if it is a frontend for it
[07:22] <tensorpudding> ugh
[07:22] <revilodraw> anyone know how to disable the 'go' menu from saving your folder history?
[07:22] <smw> MethodMan, for example, gdpkg is a fontend for dpkg
[07:22] <smw> MethodMan, xchat is an irc client
[07:23] <MethodMan> dpkg is run in the terminal and then gdpkg gives you a gui?
[07:23] <soreau> revilodraw: nope
[07:23] <soreau> use a terminal
[07:23] <smw> MethodMan, correct
[07:23] <soreau> MethodMan: right
[07:23] <smw> MethodMan, in the case of xchat, it is not a frontend for anything. It is a client the same way outlook/evolution is a mail client
[07:24] <revilodraw> soreau: i've been using ubuntu for 6 years and the 'go' menu, or any other menu, has never remembered folderes that have been visited.m
[07:24] <face_> Soreau!  I rebooted to a whole bunch of errors!
[07:24] <MethodMan> how do i get a new channel
[07:25] <codex84> click settings
[07:25] <soreau> face_: Well I assume you are the one I told to install xorg-edgers?
[07:25] <codex84> join channel
[07:25] <MethodMan> java is an invite only channel
[07:25] <soreau> MethodMan: /j #newchannel
[07:25] <codex84> and type the channel
[07:25] <codex84> name
[07:25] <codex84> u wanna join
[07:25] <soreau> MethodMan: Or /join #channel
[07:26] <soreau> ! register | MethodMan
[07:26] <soreau> MethodMan: Many programming channels require your nick to be registered, due to spam and other reasons
[07:26] <MethodMan> cannot join #java (Channel is invite only).
[07:26] <soreau> MethodMan: Its ##java
[07:26] <face_> Most of 'em are along the lines of "There was an error loading module named: conf_dpms No module named conf_dpms/linux/gnu=i486-ver-pre-svn-08/module.so could be found in the module search directories.  Would you like to unload this module?"  And yes, soreau, I am.  For some reason nickserv identify Ansikt [password] didn't change me to my usual name
[07:27] <soreau> but #java should redirect to ##java
[07:27] <codex84> i have bleachbit how u upgrade too the latest
[07:27] <codex84> is on 0.8.1 right now
[07:27] <Tyrone> anyone here from philippines?
[07:28] <iqbalkhan> hallo all
[07:28] <soreau> face_: Ok, boot into recovery mode and run this to undo everything: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[07:28] <iqbalkhan> can i install adobe air in ubuntu 10.10 32 bit?
[07:28] <red2kic> !info bleachbit
[07:28] <red2kic> codex84: See that?
[07:29] <face_> Alright....will do....
[07:29] <codex84> yea
[07:29] <codex84> i see that
[07:29] <red2kic> codex84: You're fine. You're on latest ubuntu package.
[07:29] <codex84> no im not cuz i went to the site the latest
[07:29] <codex84> is 0.8.7
[07:29] <^Phantom^> Okay, I got putty connected to this machine.
[07:29] <^Phantom^> I'm at the command-line
[07:30] <red2kic> codex84: bleachbit 0.8.7-1 -- I see that.
[07:30] <red2kic> !latest | codex84
[07:30] <face_> Alright, soreau, rebooting.
[07:30] <^Phantom^> That's IT???
[07:30] <red2kic> !info bleachbit natty | codex84
[07:31] <red2kic> codex84: Two weeks. :O
[07:31] <^Phantom^> ALL SSH DOES IS GIVE YOU A REMOTE TERMINAL FROM THE HOST MACHINE?
[07:31] <MethodMan> thx to all that helped me
[07:31] <^Phantom^> afj;alskdk
[07:31] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Pretty much
[07:31] <^Phantom^> D:
[07:31] <red2kic> ^Phantom^: -- You miss the point. You can do so much things with it.
[07:31] <soreau> ^Phantom^: In sys>prefs>remote desktop on the linux ox, what does it have set?
[07:32] <soreau> box*
[07:32] <^Phantom^> I want to use my laptop to put my ubuntu session on the TV upstairs >_>
[07:32] <^Phantom^> I have it all unchecked, soreau
[07:33] <red2kic> ^Phantom^: You're physically disabled? I had to ask first before I yell you to use your frigging legs, you lazy bum. :)
[07:33] <Khisanth> that would be a problem :)
[07:33] <komatose> trying to install uplink, having some issues.. can't seem to set permissions to run the exe, the checkbox and menus reset themselves. i tried it as root (gksu nautilus?) with the same problem.
[07:33] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Well, there is your first problem
[07:34] <^Phantom^> I tried opening x-window manager thing from the laptop, but I can't remember the command for it. <_<
[07:34] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Enable allow users to view and control your desktop, and setup automatically accept connections or however you want that to work
[07:34] <komatose> join #ubuntu-beginners
[07:34] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Then, try vncviewer from the windows machine to connect again
[07:35]  * soreau gives komatose a /
[07:35] <^Phantom^> Okay, soreau, but I've been trying to do that for about an hour now.
[07:35] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Its not going to work if you dont have it setup right
[07:36] <soreau> ^Phantom^: You also should make sure you can ping the windows machine ip and vice versa
[07:36] <^Phantom^> soreau, I have three viewers
[07:37] <soreau> ^Phantom^: You only need one
[07:37] <^Phantom^> realvnc, remotevnc, and tightvnc
[07:37] <soreau> ^Phantom^: vncviewer should be what you want
[07:37] <soreau> provided by tightvnc IIRC
[07:37] <^Phantom^> I have gotten the farthest with Tightvnc
[07:37] <santi> hi
[07:37] <soreau> hi santi
[07:38] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Can you can ping the windows machine IP and vice versa ?
[07:38] <MethodMan> what is the difference between freenode and OFTC
[07:38] <santi> can u help me with my web cam
[07:38] <MethodMan> and where should i go to ask general questions
[07:38] <soreau> MethodMan: They are different networks
[07:38] <soreau> MethodMan: /join #freenode
[07:38] <santi> im using xubuntu and a compaq netbook
[07:38] <MethodMan> if i registered on OFTC am I good to go on freenode?
[07:38] <soreau> MethodMan: No
[07:38] <soreau> ! register | MethodMan
[07:39] <^Phantom^> windows can ping ubuntu
[07:39] <soreau> ! webcam | santi
[07:39] <MethodMan> so how does one choose a network to join?  looks like there are hundreds
[07:39] <santi> lots of thx!
[07:39] <^Phantom^> but ubuntu seems to be having trouble pinging windows...
[07:40] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Now pass that IP to vncviewer and it should connect, if you have remote desktop configured correctly on ubuntu
[07:40] <soreau> hmm
[07:40] <soreau> ^Phantom^: That could be a problem
[07:40] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Check your windows machine firewall settings
[07:40] <sacarlson> ^Phantom^: you can ping windows on your lan with arping
[07:41] <soreau> sacarlson: I dont think you should need anything other than ping
[07:41] <sacarlson> soreau: windows filters ping but can't filter arp transactions
[07:42] <soreau> sacarlson: Well thats dumb :P
[07:42] <soreau> It always workedforme with ping
[07:42] <^Phantom^> I turned the firewall off, and now ubuntu can ping it
[07:42] <sacarlson> soreau: dump to filter pings?
[07:42] <^Phantom^> with just ping
[07:42] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Can you connect with vncviewer now?
[07:43] <^Phantom^> Just the "connection established" dialog.
[07:43] <sacarlson> ^Phantom^:  soreau: I can't control how my windows clients setup there firewalls so I just arping to verify they are hooked up
[07:43] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Did you setup sys>prefs>remote desktop correctly?
[07:43] <soreau> sacarlson: I see
[07:43] <^Phantom^> soreau, yeah.
[07:44] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Well Im out of ideas then
[07:44] <^Phantom^> soreau, can I just launch an x-window command via the putty connection?
[07:44] <soreau> It has always worked for me when I tried in the past
[07:44] <soreau> ^Phantom^: I dont know. Try ssh -X someXapp
[07:45] <^Phantom^> What's the window manager command name again?
[07:45] <soreau> ^Phantom^: I never used putty but maybe look into rdesktop too as smw suggested? (I never tried rdesktop either)
[07:45] <soreau> ^Phantom^: You wont be able to run any window manager on windows
[07:45] <^Phantom^> D:
[07:45] <soreau> at least, it wont do what you would expect
[07:46] <soreau> No compiz for windoze
[07:47] <Khisanth> you could but you would need an xserver running on windows
[07:47] <Khisanth> and you won't see your ubuntu desktop
[07:48] <soreau> Khisanth: I still dont think compiz would work even with X for windows running
[07:48] <soreau> maybe a non-compositing wm
[07:48] <Khisanth> there are other window managers :)
[07:48] <soreau> never tried it
[07:49] <calwig> how do you enable the Cylinder in the Cube?
[07:49] <calwig> as opposed to the Cube?
[07:49] <soreau> Khisanth: Yea but then what is the point?
[07:49] <soreau> calwig: Install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:49] <calwig> i have already, which setting should i go to?
[07:50] <soreau> calwig: Restart compiz and ccsm, then look for Cube Reflection and Deformation plugin in Extra category
[07:50] <Khisanth> ^Phantom^: if you run netstat -ltpn do you see something with :5900 under the Local Address column?
[07:50] <soreau> calwig: and find it in the Deformation tab
[07:50] <Khisanth> soreau: personally I see no point in using compiz :)
[07:50] <soreau> Khisanth: You might as well see no point in using linux then :/
[07:51] <Khisanth> uh there are plenty of other window manager
[07:51] <^Phantom^> Yeah.
[07:51] <^Phantom^> 0.0.0.0:5900
[07:51] <calwig> soreau: i found cube reflection, but not deformation
[07:51] <Khisanth> useless eyecandy
[07:52] <azeem> Does Ubuntu have a version for Tablet PC... I bought Hp Touch Smart Tablet PC TM2 ...
[07:52] <soreau> calwig: There is no way possible
[07:52] <soreau> calwig: Show a screenshot of the ccsm window where you see this
[07:53] <nirvana02> hey holla all guy
[07:53] <DaPenguin> azeem: best bet would probably be the netbook version
[07:53] <calwig> I have fusion running
[07:54] <calwig> with all the settings (ccsm)
[07:54] <calwig> i think its there, i just dont find it
[07:55] <keidori> dose any one know of a good command line guide/tutorial?
[07:55] <thegoodcushion> are there any C compilers available for Ubuntu other than gcc and clang?  Any other versions of gcc and clang available?
[07:56] <th^^> thegoodcushion: http://llvm.org/
[07:56] <thegoodcushion> th^^: but that's just clang, isn't it?
[07:56] <th^^> oh, yes think so
[07:56] <th^^> not really familiar with it. then, i think: "no"
[07:56] <keidori> Am I in the wrong room?
[07:57] <DaPenguin> any particular reason you don't want to use gcc?
[07:57] <DaPenguin> not trying to say you should, just curious is all
[07:58] <thegoodcushion> DaPenguin: I'm trying to write a portable project so I'm keen to try it on different compilers
[07:58] <soreau> calwig: 1) Install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra 2) Restart compiz and ccsm 3) Find Cube Reflection and Deformation plugin in Extra category of ccsm 4) Go to the Deformation tab and enable cylinder
[07:58] <thegoodcushion> my code compiles with gcc and clang but not tiny cc
[07:58] <DaPenguin> ah, gotcha
[07:58] <calwig> soreau: in Extras?you mean
[07:58] <rob_p> keidori: Depends on whether or not you need Ubuntu specific help. :)
[07:59] <soreau> calwig: No, I just told you *exactly* what to do. If you cant follow simple instructions..
[07:59] <soreau> calwig: Ok, I made a mistake
[07:59] <soreau> calwig: 1) Install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra 2) Restart compiz and ccsm 3) Find Cube Reflection and Deformation plugin in Effects category of ccsm 4) Go to the Deformation tab and enable cylinder
[07:59] <calwig> soreau: !"§$%&
[07:59] <calwig> :P
[07:59] <keidori> rob_p lol, well I was wondering if some one could point me in the direction of a good command line guide/tutorial
[08:00] <soreau> calwig: Use the Filter box in the upper left of ccsm to easily find any plugin
[08:00] <azeem> I work in a Educational Institution, I need Ubuntu Posters to display in our labs for Linux Promotion
[08:01] <calwig> soreau: I only find Cube Reflection, but no Deformation plugin in Effects of ccsm
[08:01] <calwig> soreau: i did search on the filter box for deformation. Found nothin
[08:01] <soreau> calwig: I want to see a screenshot of that please
[08:01] <soreau> ! screenshots | calwig
[08:02] <calwig> soreau: You think i may have to update my ccsm?
[08:02] <calwig> soreau: ok one sec
[08:02] <calwig> soreau: u want the screen shot of ccsm?
[08:02] <rob_p> keidori: There are so many on the 'Net. I could Google one for you, but I'm sure you could just as easily do it too! :)
[08:02] <^Phantom^> soreau, I got it!
[08:03] <soreau> calwig: Yes, I want to see Cube Reflection without deformation. If this is the case, ubuntu patched it. See if there is still a Deformation tab in this plugin
[08:03] <soreau> ^Phantom^: Cool, what did you have to do?
[08:03] <^Phantom^> I'm sending this through VNC
[08:04] <calwig> soreau: uploadin
[08:04] <^Phantom^> I installed X11vnc from the software center.
[08:05] <keidori> rob_p I've found a bit but they are way to old or are written by stephen hawkings, I was wondering if any one knew of a good one
[08:05] <rob_p> keidori: If you force yourself to use the command line for simple, everyday tasks, you will get very comfortable with it in no time.  Just learn all the common commands for things like navigating around the directory structure, listing files/directories, viewing/editing files, etc. You'll be a pro in no time! :)
[08:05] <calwig> soreau: http://imagebin.org/148320
[08:05] <keidori> cool, thanks
[08:06] <saal7193> hello, i'm looking for a way to delete all the text in all the files in a folder, and also to insert a word in all those files
[08:06] <soreau> calwig: That is not the shot I asked for
[08:06] <calwig> soreau: u want to see the Cube then?
[08:06] <calwig> ok
 soreau: I only find Cube Reflection, but no Deformation plugin in Effects of ccsm <-- I want to see this Cube Reflection
[08:07] <bsodmike> saal7193: what extensions do the files have?
[08:07] <bsodmike> .txt?
[08:07] <soreau> calwig: Also, pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep compiz to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <soreau> bsodmike: Linux does not care too much about file extensions. That is more of a windows thing
[08:07] <rob_p> keidori: Most of the common commands have been around for a *long* time so don't worry about how old the info may appear to be.  If in doubt, pull the man page for the command in question (ie: man command) and you can read all about it.
[08:07] <bsodmike> well, that's true
[08:08] <keidori> cool
[08:08] <thewall> nuva noob here...what's the best program for joining converting .flv's ?
[08:08] <morgan> can anyone point me towards some good advice regarding SATA drives. BIOS see's 4 drives.. Ubuntu only sees 3.
[08:08] <saal7193> bsodmike,  there are different extensions]
[08:08] <calwig> soreau: ok
[08:09] <keidori> arista
[08:09] <keidori> its got a nice gui :)
[08:09] <rod> hi!
[08:09] <calwig> soreau: image http://imagebin.org/148321
[08:09] <thewall> ok thnx
[08:10] <rob_p> Hi rod. :)
[08:10] <rod> I have a question, If I am logged in through ssh to some server through terminal, Can I open a new terminal window already logged onto the same server easily? (without having to relogin)
[08:10] <saal7193> i was hoping there was a way to do this with all the files in a folder regardless of file extensions
[08:10] <calwig> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594363/
[08:11] <rob_p> rod: Sure. Use screen. man screen for more info.
[08:11] <saal7193> but i will settle for a way to do this with certain extension at a time
[08:11] <keidori> np thewall
[08:11] <rod> awesome, i'll try to figure it out
[08:11] <zhangze> The best way is to have a try
[08:12] <soreau> calwig: What version of ubuntu are you using??
[08:13] <rob_p> rod: You may have to sudo apt-get install screen if you don't aready have it installed.  I use screen with my IRC client remotely, so that I can attach/detach at will, without having to kill my IRC session every time.
[08:13] <rod> actually i think my ubuntu came with screen
[08:14] <th^^> or, use byobu, which is like tabbed screen
[08:14] <rob_p> rod: It's pretty slick once you get used to it.
[08:15] <soreau> calwig: compiz 0.7.x is pretty old now, you must be using a pretty old version of ubuntu
[08:15] <calwig> soreau: hardy
[08:15] <soreau> calwig: You need at least compiz 0.8.x for cube reflection and deformation plugin
[08:15] <soreau> That is way old
[08:15] <calwig> isnt everything now a days
[08:15] <soreau> ! hardy | calwig
[08:15] <calwig> so i cant update it thru hardy? dang i love this version
[08:15] <rob_p> rod: You can have many screens, each with their own processes/sessions, and you can detach/reattach at will.  Anyway, have fun and good luck!
[08:16] <calwig> man i cant upgrade now i have so much running
[08:16] <rod> Still trying to figure it out
[08:16] <calwig> but i will consider it :)
[08:16] <soreau> calwig: So next month, that is it. No more hardy support at all
[08:16] <soreau> Its done
[08:16] <soreau> calwig: You really should consider upgrading to a newer version of ubuntu
[08:16] <morgan> anyone got a hint for an unrecognised SATA drive in ubuntu.. Its recognised in bios
[08:17] <calwig> soreau: sounds like backup time :)
[08:19] <iceroot> is there a way to have one md5sum for a directory (not using tar)?
[08:19] <iceroot> cat * | md5sum seems to do what i want
[08:21] <thewall> !upgrade
[08:23] <morgan> hate to RE-Pete myself. But I don't know how to find help for a SATA drive, detected by BIOS, but not UBUNTU. 3 others no problem. #4 nothing...
[08:25] <Luigi> Hello, I'd like for fsck to run every time I boot this computer. It's running 10.10. Is there a way to make it do that?
[08:25] <abhinav_singh> how do i update firefox in ubuntu?
[08:26] <Starminn> abhinav_singh: pdate it to what, exactly?
[08:27] <Starminn> Luigi: I'd say so. Just make a startup application for it.
[08:27] <abhinav_singh> Starminn update means upgrade to 4.0
[08:27] <Starminn> !ff4 | abhinav_singh
[08:27] <Starminn> Follow the above instructions and all should be fine. :)
[08:28] <Luigi> Starminn: A startup application? I think those run after login, not before?
[08:29] <Starminn> Luigi: Ah, yes, good point. You're right I believe.
[08:29] <abhinav_singh> yup Starminn :)
[08:29] <Starminn> abhinav_singh: It worked?
[08:31] <MK``> Why is the Network folder so laggy? Network speed is fine but looking up folders takes forever and freezes that nautilus window
[08:31] <van7hu> hello, anyone familier with eglibc?
[08:32] <cl3tUs> Need some major help...was working on my video card issue, switchec video drivers using ubuntu software center to download nvidia ones, rebooted, now my hard drive isn't being recognized in BIOS.
[08:36] <tomatobros> cl3tUs:  try to connect ur hdd another sata or ide port  and switch power connector  to different one
[08:36] <saal7193> how do i get a search and replace tool to delete all the text in all the files in a folder instead of certain text?
[08:37] <van7hu> saal7193: find, grep ...
[08:37] <cl3tUs> tomatobros: I'll have to try it tomorrow.  Computer is in back room and we have guest :(
[08:37] <cl3tUs> Thank you though!  I wil ldo that!
[08:37] <tomatobros> cl3tUs:  i hope it works :(
[08:38] <saal7193> van7hu,  thanks i'll check it out
[08:38] <cl3tUs> tomatobros: Me too :(  I'm trying out Ubuntu 10.10 and hooked up a 32 inch tv to it as a second monitor and have been having probs wit h that.  Got StarCraft 2 to install using Wine, but other than that, I've had some odd problems off and on.
[08:39] <liekzomg> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on raid, i've got a raid1 /boot on first partition of each drive but when i get to installing grub it errors saying it can't be embedded
[08:39] <mithran> hi how do i view a list of the irc channels using pidgin?
[08:40] <mithran> liekzomg: software or hardware raid?
[08:41] <liekzomg> mithran: software raid
[08:41] <saal7193> i dont think i can do grep on this search and replace tool
[08:41] <liekzomg> mithran: exact error is along the lines of "embedding is not possible, but this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume"
[08:42] <Abl> quit
[08:43] <mithran> liekzomg: i have not tried LVM, as far as i know, Ubuntu installer does not have an option to install using LVM..how are u doing it?
[08:43] <tomatobros> cl3tUs:  i don't prefer wine for gaming playing my games on winsux :)
[08:43] <cl3tUs> tomatobros: Do you use a VM to do it?
[08:44] <tomatobros> no dualboot
[08:44] <cl3tUs> tomatobros: how do you do that?  When I tried, it gave me issues.  Said I couldn't install OS on the other partition.
[08:44] <cl3tUs> I Ogled and everything
[08:44] <grandrew> hi! What header files have the L3 protocols version numbers? like TCP, UDP, etc?
[08:45] <tomatobros> cl3tUs:  check this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:46] <liekzomg> mithran: i'm not using LVM either, just mdadm on ubuntu alernate install
[08:47] <tomatobros> cl3tUs:  and u can use Wubi for dual boot first install win and just put ur ubuntu cd or mount .iso file run wubi installer.
[08:47] <tomatobros> !wubi
[08:48] <cl3tUs> wubi?
[08:49] <mithran> liekzomg: ok i have never tried that..no idea..sorry :)
[08:55] <mx> Hi
[08:56] <hp> hi, please help me to join another irc server
[08:56] <MK``> hp what client are you using?
[08:57] <hp> XChat-GNOME
[08:57] <hp> on Ubuntu
[08:58] <MK``> hp: ctrl+t to open a new server window
[08:59] <hp> and then?
[08:59] <hp> press Ctrl+T is not running
[08:59] <MK``> hp: in that window, type ctrl+s and search for the server you want to join. If it's  not on the list, you need to enter it manually
[09:00] <MK``> using /server server.name
[09:02] <saal7193> how do i manage my files without having to type sudo nautilus all the time?
[09:04] <SarcasMo> ellow
[09:04] <SarcasMo> i want to install ubuntu from my USB hard disk
[09:05] <sre-su> !usb | SarcasMo
[09:05] <SarcasMo> does anyone know that if i use universal USB installer i lose all information on my USB hard disk?
[09:05] <sre-su> SarcasMo: For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:06] <SkUlleSS> im on my way to ubuntu
[09:06] <Starminn> saal7193: Why do you have to type sudo nautilus?
[09:08] <SarcasMo> sre-su: so if i use this all data thats now on the hard disk will be lost?
[09:09] <SkUlleSS> i begin to like ubuntu
[09:10] <SarcasMo> im trying to install ubuntu without CD
[09:10] <SarcasMo> whatare my options?
[09:10] <iceroot> !usb | SarcasMo
[09:11] <sre-su> SarcasMo: USB flash drive need to formatted to install Ubuntu using USB. For creating image on USB for ubuntu installtion it will NOT affect HDD data but USB data. When installing Ubuntu through USB you will have to consider where to install and accordingly format/partition.
[09:12] <Starminn> sre-su: that was very confusing.
[09:12] <saal7193> Starminn, because half the time, if i dont type sudo nautilus, i cant do anything with the files
[09:12] <SarcasMo> my HDD is connected with USB and im trying to install it from thee USB-HDD :p
[09:12] <sre-su> SarcasMo: What are you trying to do?
[09:13] <Starminn> saal7193: What do you mean? What is your desired outcome,  what do you do, and what happens instead?
[09:13] <SarcasMo> i want to be sure i dont lose any data
[09:13] <sre-su> USB_HDD?
[09:13] <SarcasMo> i have an NTFS formatted USB drive of 500 Gb
[09:13] <Starminn> SarcasMo: sre-su: You mean external HDD?
[09:13] <SarcasMo> ye
[09:13] <sre-su> Ah
[09:13] <SkUlleSS> usb_hdd? sounds like a bit complicated
[09:13] <SarcasMo> :p
[09:13] <SarcasMo> i want to sound smart
[09:13] <SarcasMo> i have alot of data on it wich i dont want to lose
[09:14] <SarcasMo> and i want Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop i now have W7 and i want to keep that too
[09:14] <SarcasMo> so a dual boot of some kind
[09:14] <saal7193> Starminn, i keep having to type sudo nautilus just to move or delete files and i want to be able to not have to do that so often
[09:15] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Okay. So go into Win7 and create a partition for Ubuntu. Create one for the stuff you'll be using and one for "page file" memory (i.e. "swap" as it is called in Linux)
[09:15] <SkUlleSS> why dont u try install ubuntu inside win7
[09:15] <SarcasMo> go into W7 and create a partition
[09:15] <SarcasMo> how?
[09:15] <Starminn> SkUlleSS: Because nearly nobody in here can give support on that since it's so odd.
[09:16] <nit-wit> SarcasMo, WUBI
[09:16] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Just use the default Windows tool to adjust your hard drive partitions
[09:16] <Starminn> http://www.nirmaltv.com/2009/05/12/how-to-resize-disk-partition-in-windows-7/
[09:16] <SarcasMo> ill try thx  alot :p
[09:16] <nit-wit> Starminn, windows wont read or format ext type partitons
[09:17] <Starminn> nit-wit: He can format it on install from the LiveCD. He's just making unallocated space.
[09:17] <Lorthirk> well, he can repartition directly with gparted on the livecd, then
[09:17] <SkUlleSS> try easus to create partition
[09:17] <nit-wit> Starminn, I saw the link cool
[09:18] <Starminn> SarcasMo: So just make a bunch of unallocated space (blank space) for Ubuntu. Let's say 250GB if you want to split it right down the middle. OR however large you wish.
[09:18] <Starminn> Lorthirk: Win7 can be testy, I've heard. I'm doing the recommended method from those who have done this already.
[09:18] <saal7193> Starminn, when i type sudo nautilus it only lasts for a while and after that i cant modify the files again and i have to type sudo nautilus again
[09:18] <SarcasMo> i dont want Ubuntu on my external HDD
[09:18] <SkUlleSS> just run wubi inside win7
[09:18] <SarcasMo> i want it on my laptop :p
[09:19] <SkUlleSS> i think the rest will be easy
[09:19] <Starminn> saal7193: You should be using "gksudo nautilus"
[09:19] <Tobbi> On http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook isn't it supposed to be '...powerful enough to create and edit images too' in the very right item of the feature box?
[09:19] <ljsoftnet> how do i make firefox tabs as icons?
[09:19] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Oh, what's your laptop got on it?
[09:19] <mithran> hi all, how do i view a list of the channels i can connect to?, im using using pidgin on ubunut..
[09:19] <SarcasMo> Windows 7
[09:19] <SarcasMo> u mean free space?
[09:19] <Starminn> SarcasMo: So do the same thing for your laptop.
[09:19] <saal7193> Starminn,  oh i see thanks
[09:19] <Lorthirk> so SarcasMo, you have two ways: wubi or standard dual boot.
[09:19] <SarcasMo> i have atleast 100Gb free space on my D drive
[09:20] <SarcasMo> i want standard dual boot
[09:20] <Lorthirk> (and still don't get why you mentioned your external hdd in the first place :D
[09:20] <Starminn> SarcasMo: SO I'd say take 50GB for Ubuntu and leave the other 50 for Windows in case you use both often and want to leave room for Windows.
[09:20] <SarcasMo> oke
[09:20] <SarcasMo> now i have to find the resize tool
[09:20] <SarcasMo> moment
[09:20] <anksi> I am getting an error while using apt command
[09:21] <anksi> Can someone help everytimr i install something i get this errorErrors were encountered while processing: crossplatformui
[09:21] <anksi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:21] <Lorthirk> SarcasMo: are you writing from the laptop you wnat to install ubuntu in to?
[09:21] <Starminn> SarcasMo: So, go into the Disk Management utility, following the link I gave, and make 50GB of unallocated (i.e. "blank" space)
[09:21] <ljsoftnet> how do i make firefox tabs as icons?
[09:21] <Starminn> !gksudo > saal7193
[09:21] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: Please give more details?
[09:22] <anksi> Is it an error with ubuntu 10.10
[09:22] <anksi> Everytime i install something using apt command i get an error
[09:22] <anksi> But the package is installed
[09:23] <ljsoftnet> how do i make firefox tabs changed as icons? you know like talika or dockbarx but inside firefox
[09:23] <saal7193> ok thanks Starminn
[09:23] <oscarhou> If I specified a separate partition for the OS and a separate partition for my home directory, how do I go about keeping my /home when I reinstall Ubuntu?
[09:23] <Starminn> saal7193: Sure thing.
[09:24] <Starminn> oscarhou: Never doe it myself, but I'd say just make a symlink to the /home partition. Give me a moment and I'll find you something.
[09:24] <_Neytiri_> any ideas why i am getting this error when i try to enable a mod on apache, ERROR: Module vhost_alias.load does not exist! it does exist i used tab completion so i know its spelled right
[09:24] <Starminn> !separatehome | oscarhou
[09:24] <SarcasMo> Starminn: do i have to format D?
[09:24] <Starminn> SarcasMo: That depends. What is "D:\"?
[09:24] <oscarhou> Starminn: Thanks I'll check that link out :D
[09:25] <Starminn> oscarhou: :) I've been meaning to do it but too lazy. When I do get around to it, that's what I'm going to use. ;)
[09:25] <SarcasMo> Starminn: hehe its emty laptop space :p
[09:25] <SarcasMo> Starminn: around 117 Gb
[09:25] <fenring101> Hello! Can anybody help me with some power management issues with a Dell XPS?
[09:26] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Explain to us what your hard drive looks like. What is "C:\" and what is "D:\"? Did you make D:\ yourself or did it come default or what?
[09:26] <xulo> ola
[09:26] <xulo> sois españoles
[09:26] <Starminn> !spanish | xulo
[09:27] <SarcasMo> when W7 got installed the D drive was made i have C: \, D:\ and My Passport as my e-HDD
[09:27] <SarcasMo> C: \ contains W7
[09:27] <SarcasMo> D: \ is empty
[09:27] <bounder> hey
[09:27] <Mandos`> hey
[09:28] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Okay. Well then you've already got blank space from the sounds of it. That is correct? So you could install Ubuntu to that, as it is totally empty?
[09:28] <SarcasMo> totally empty, windows can use it though
[09:30] <SarcasMo> I can install the Ubuntu.iso file on D: \ just like that?
[09:30] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Okay. You are messaging us from a computer other than the laptop?
[09:31] <SarcasMo> no
[09:31] <SarcasMo> i only have this laptop
[09:31] <ljsoftnet> how do i make firefox tabs changed as icons? you know like talika or dockbarx but inside firefox
[09:31] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Ah, fair enough. That's alright. So have you burned a CD or USB to use?
[09:32] <SarcasMo> i have no cd-drive on this laptop
[09:32] <SarcasMo> and the usb is my e-HDD
[09:32] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: Do you have a picture you could show us?
[09:32] <SarcasMo> i dont want to lose the data on my e-HDD
[09:32] <fenring101> Gentlemen, can anybody help with some power management issues?
[09:32] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Well you won't be using your external HDD so it doesn't matter. Besides, have you no other USB ports? You only need one. And again, why do you need the e-HDD plugged in all the time? :)
[09:33] <bounder> i'm back?
[09:33] <SarcasMo> oke uplugged it now :p
[09:33] <Starminn> SarcasMo: Alright, so you will be using Ubuntu desktop edition?
[09:33] <SarcasMo> i have 2 usb ports, no cd-drive, and no USB sticks beside my e-HDD
[09:34] <SarcasMo> yes
[09:34] <roman__> hi all
[09:34] <Starminn> Oh, you don't have any USB sticks? Well you'll need either a CD drive (and a CD of course) or a USB drive to install it.
[09:34] <morgan> bios sees all my sata drives. ubuntu only sees 3/4.. any ideas?
[09:34] <SarcasMo> Starminn: i already downloaded the .ISO from the site
[09:35] <SarcasMo> its on the C: \ drive
[09:35] <Starminn> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[09:35] <Starminn> Follow those steps. You did Step #1. Now step #2. You have ot burn it.
[09:35] <roman__> mam problem z ustawieniem programu pocztowego
[09:35] <Starminn> roman__: This is english only. What language channel are you looking for?
[09:35] <roman__> co robić?
[09:36] <bounder> i give in now
[09:36] <Starminn> !polish | roman__
[09:36] <roman__> polish
[09:36] <SarcasMo> Starminn: do i have to use my e-HDD for this? i dont have any other USB devices
[09:36] <roman__> yes
[09:36] <Starminn> SarcasMo: It needs the burned .iso and only it on it, so if you have data on the e-HDD I'd advise against that.
[09:37] <roman__> dzięki:)
[09:37] <Starminn> And I'm not sure if computers can even boot from full-fledged HDDs
[09:37] <SarcasMo> so its impossible without erasing the e-HDD
[09:37] <Starminn> SarcasMo: What needs to be done to install it is your computer must boot from a LiveCD or LiveUSB, which means that you can actually run it without any hard drive.
[09:38] <Starminn> But without any suitable external media (USB or CD) you can't do it. Can't even use WUBI as far as I know.
[09:38] <SarcasMo> oke thx :)
[09:39] <tomatobros> SarcasMo:  mount .iso file with deamontools or whatever u want go in mounted cd run wubi installer
[09:39] <SarcasMo> ah
[09:39] <tomatobros> !wubi
[09:39] <ljsoftnet> Starminn https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/faviconizetab/
[09:39] <SarcasMo> ty tomatobros and ty Starminn
[09:39] <harpal> I had installed virtualbox-ose on ubuntu 10.10 but when I start it says no kernel modules found
[09:40] <iceroot> harpal: installed form the repos?
[09:40] <harpal> iceroot: yes
[09:40] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: You can do it by default in the latest Firefox (FX4). IT's called "App tabs"
[09:40] <iceroot> harpal: there should be a vbox-setup script (vbox TAB TAB) which will build the needed modules
[09:40] <bounder> mornin all
[09:40] <iceroot> harpal: normally this step is done during the installation from apt-get
[09:41] <harpal> iceroot: I dont have vbox-setup command
[09:41] <ljsoftnet> Starminn where can i find it?
[09:42] <harpal> iceroot: do I need any other packages to be installed?
[09:42] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: Find what? The App Tab option or Firefox 4?
[09:42] <bounder> o well tatty bye!
[09:42] <harpal> iceroot: like virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms
[09:42] <bounder> be back later
[09:42] <ljsoftnet> Starminn nevermind i found it
[09:43] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: Yep. :) It's awesome how many things are usually included by default. :)
[09:45] <van7hu> hello, where could I get manual for glibc 2.12.2, http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/, I just get 2.13 there
[09:47] <ricman> any1 cn help me how to configure sound out from laptop
[09:48] <ricman> coz sounds out only on my headset not on its speakers after I install this OS frm ubuntu
[09:50] <JPJ> hi
[09:50] <Sverd> hi, I have a strange problem, I was wondering if anyone might have any ideas. Im running ubuntu server 10.10 and if I use bash I cant type lower case e in console. Only way around was changing from bash to bin/sh.. but in sh I cant use the lowercase e in programs like lftp.
[09:51] <erUSUL> Sverd: what do you get instead of an e ?
[09:51] <Sverd> erUSUL: nothing, just a error message from putty.. like im trying to paste a blank cliboard
[09:51] <Sverd> it just plings :)
[09:51] <cristi> ubuntu 10.10 unable to create ad-hoc wifi any ideeas how to find the problem or the problem it self ?
[09:52] <erUSUL> Sverd: so this happens on putty. not in a xterminal nor the console tty's. looks like a putty conffiguration issue
[09:52] <Sverd> erUSUL: its the same when im logged on to the server itself
[09:53] <erUSUL> Sverd: via alt + fn VT's =
[09:53] <erUSUL> ?
[09:53] <Sverd> erUSUL: but I changed my used to use zsh, and I can use e now (as you can see), but lftp wont let me type it
[09:53] <JPJ> Does anyone know why ubuntu freezes while booting from a live USB?
[09:54] <JPJ> The USB works fine on all PCs except the netbook I'm trying to test it on
[09:54] <Sverd> erUSUL: alt + fn as in function?
[09:55] <erUSUL> Sverd: yes
[09:57] <hihihi100> ubuntu presently shows white text and black background on every icon in the main menu. But, Vidala and Skype, among other applications, show white text and white background, thus, not showing any text at all. Is there any way I can change the font color?
[09:58] <cristi> change the theme of skype
[09:58] <Russehl-Athletic> hiho
[09:59] <Sverd> erUSUL: you lost me, sorry
[09:59] <Russehl-Athletic> it seems that on one pc with latest ubuntu all our init services are started in parallel but because our dhcp needs a bit longer than normal, we boot into gdm without proper nis stuff
[09:59] <erUSUL> Sverd: you may want to check "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and see if everythng is ok
[10:00] <Russehl-Athletic> can i somehow set that it should start nothing in parallel? boot time really does not matter
[10:00] <JPJ> At the end, will ubuntu 11.04 use unity or Gnome?
[10:00] <erUSUL> JPJ: unity -- further questions in #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <erUSUL> Russehl-Athletic: maybe asking in #upstart ?
[10:01] <ljsoftnet> Starminn can i make the app tabs, be like ordinary tabs?
[10:01] <Sverd> erUSUL: ive done it several times, checked every setting and compared to another server it works on, still no go.. it seems like the letter e in lowercase is somehow changed to do a different function.. I can not figure out where and what
[10:02] <ricman> any1 can help me on how to configure my laptop speaker coz ders no sound however on my headset sounds out good. thanks. pls help now only I install julinux8.
[10:02] <JPJ> Thanks, I heard rumors that unity was dropped. Though, this new interface doesn't convince me
[10:02] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: What? Your descriptions are insanely vague.
[10:03] <ricman> help!...pls
[10:03] <ljsoftnet> Starminn ah forget it thanks anyway
[10:03] <red2kic> ricman: "alsamixer" -- Make sure nothing is muted.
[10:03] <ricman> anybody can hear me here...
[10:03] <erUSUL> Sverd: :/ well i really dunno; it is weird that it wrks in zsh but not in bash
[10:03] <red2kic> Or we don't use alsamixer now? I'm not sure. :(
[10:03] <Sverd> erUSUL: indeed
[10:03] <Starminn> ljsoftnet: If you mean turn them back to normal just right-click on the tab and hit "Unpin App Tab"
[10:03] <erUSUL> Sverd: if all terminal apps failed the same way ...
[10:03] <cristi> ubuntu 10.10 unable to create ad-hoc wifi any ideeas how to find the problem ?
[10:04] <ricman> thanks my headset good but not on my laptop speaker
[10:04] <erUSUL> Sverd: because it also works in your irc client but not in lftp :( inconsistencies hard to explain
[10:04] <Starminn> erUSL: JULinux isn't supported here, is it?
[10:04] <Sverd> erUSUL: in bash everything fails... in zsh i havent had any problems untill now, when I tried to use lftp
[10:04] <erUSUL> !derivatives
[10:04] <Starminn> erUSL: I checked that and ubottu doesn't have it in her but it's so little-known.
[10:05] <erUSUL> Sverd: maybe the exported $TERM var in bash ?
[10:05] <Russehl-Athletic> erUSUL: thanks i will try
[10:06] <harpal> My grub menu not displayed while starting ubuntu, what should I change?
[10:06] <obengdako> cristi, what exactly is the problem
[10:06] <harpal> I had changed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5 in /etc/default/grub
[10:06] <harpal> I had changed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5 in /etc/default/grub.cfg
[10:06] <erUSUL> Starminn:  do not support any derivarive here afaik
[10:07] <harpal> then did update-grub, but still no difference
[10:07] <Starminn> erUSL: I didn't think so. Do you know where JULinux is supported? ricman is on JULinux and I think we should at least be able to redirect him porperly. ;)
[10:07] <erUSUL> harpal: coomment out the vars that have HIDDEN in /etc/default/grub
[10:07] <erUSUL> harpal: then run update-grub
[10:07] <obengdako> cristi, you are using lan and want to create an adhoc, if gnome is your interface, click on create new wirless network, if that fails to do what you want, right click network manager and edit connections
[10:08] <Starminn> erUSL: Nevermind I think I found it.
[10:08] <erUSUL> Starminn: ok
[10:08] <erUSUL> !tab
[10:08] <harpal> erUSUL: ok, Doing that
[10:09] <Starminn> erUSUL: Oh wow, you have another U in there? I've never bothered tabbing your name because it's so short, haha. Hmph, never saw the second U.
[10:09] <erUSUL> :P
[10:09] <van7hu> harpal
[10:09] <ricman> any1 knows on julinux pls my lftop hav no speaker sound . only now I use headset
[10:10] <Khisanth> does it have speaker sound if you unplug the headset? :)
[10:10] <harpal> erUSUL: Ya that worked, Thanks a lot :)
[10:10] <erUSUL> harpal: no problem
[10:12] <ricman> khisanth no sounds comes out only on headset have
[10:12] <Starminn> erUSUL: Bleh. The only channel I can find that claims to support JULinux is completely empty. So, just for future reference, there may not be an IRC support channel for it. (after 5 minutes of Googling)
[10:12] <cristi> y can conect to other lan or create the lan ( settings in manager ) but wen y try to connect to myself it say connection tyme out in the logs
[10:13] <erUSUL> Starminn: thnaks for the info
[10:13] <harpal> ricman: you have problem in configuration, check alsamix or similar unmute all chanel
[10:15] <bj0_> to add aufs support to the .36 or .37 kernel, do i need to re-compile it?
[10:15] <JPJ> How good is the situation about USB broadband modems?
[10:16] <JPJ> I want to put ubuntu in my uncle's netbook, and if I can get it to boot, will need it to work with USB broadband
[10:16] <ricman> julinux users can u help me
[10:16] <JPJ> He's got like... 12 USB modems
[10:16] <Starminn> JPJ: Try it Live first.
[10:17] <JPJ> It won't boot... compatibility problems?
[10:17] <Starminn> JPJ: Oh, thought the question was about the broadband
[10:17] <JPJ> that too
[10:17] <obengdako> cristi, don't get it when you try to connect to yourself, how ? from a different machine please clarify
[10:17] <Starminn> JPJ: Is his BIOS configured to boot from USB?
[10:17] <JPJ> Well, tried it on my PC and his laptop
[10:17] <JPJ> Yep
[10:18] <JPJ> it hangs
[10:18] <dEhiN> hi all, I'm about to install ubuntu for the first time! I was wondering whether ubuntu supports lvm?
[10:18] <ricman> no speaker sound any1 cn help
[10:18] <rob_p> JPJ: The last time I checked (about 2 years ago) you were mostly stuck with using the generic usbserial driver which worked, but didn't support anything in excess of 115.2 kbps (slow by today's standards)!
[10:18] <Starminn> Have you tried another .iso? Could just be a bad .iso. you can check it with this next bot call I'm about to do
[10:18] <Starminn> !md5
[10:18] <JPJ> I tried 3 ISOS and 2 drives
[10:19] <obengdako> ricman, like was said have you checked alsamixer and other programs esp pulseaudio?
[10:19] <JPJ> Just that netbook won't load it!
[10:19] <mickster04> JPJ: what is it?
[10:19] <Starminn> JPJ: Ah, Yeah, it could be that the hardware just doesn't jive with Ubuntu
[10:19] <JPJ> Well, if it loads the menu... and I try to choose another option.. it freezes
[10:19] <ricman> yes I hav it installed
[10:19] <unforgiven512> Hello all
[10:19] <aeiou> is there a group installer for apache/php/mysql?
[10:19] <mickster04> !lamp
[10:20] <JPJ> Or, if it ever selects to boot, ot hangs here: Loading /casper/vmlinuz........ Loading /casper/initrd.z.....Ready.
[10:20] <rob_p> JPJ: It's probably not going to be a plug-and-play situation with that. As I recall, there was some hacking involved with getting the device to use the usbserial driver...
[10:20] <aeiou> cheers mickster04
[10:20] <rob_p> JPJ: Anyway, good luck with it! :)
[10:20] <JPJ> Some of his modems do work just prugging and waiting, others are impossible
[10:21] <JPJ> 12 modems, damnit, I have to tell him to get rid of most of them
[10:21] <ari_> just upgraded 10.10 to 11.04 on Lenovo T400. So far everything seems to be working like a charm and out of the box !
[10:21] <unforgiven512> Anyone else using 11.04 in here?
[10:21] <unforgiven512> (I'm gonna guess "Yes")
[10:21] <JPJ> I would if i had more HDD capacity
[10:22] <iceroot> unforgiven512: #ubuntu+1
[10:22] <mickster04> JPJ: try jollicloud
[10:22] <iceroot> unforgiven512: and dont use "anyone" questions please, they are useless
[10:22] <mickster04> !natty
[10:22] <ari_> unforgiven512:  been using 11.04 about 15 mins now ;-)
[10:23] <mickster04> unforgiven512: so maybe, but this isn't the place to get help fori
[10:23] <JPJ> hmm, I will investigate about jollicloud
[10:23] <mickster04> JPJ: that has had excellent success rate for me and awkwarrd hardware, even desktops etc
[10:24] <unforgiven512> I've got about the strangest bug I've ever encountered, across many OSs, devices, etc, ever.
[10:24] <JPJ> It might work better for him, he just browses and writes emails
[10:24] <Camer0n> hi, how do I make xampp run on startup, the faq says to use the /ect/inittab file but it doesn't exist
[10:25] <Camer0n> i am using ubuntu server
[10:25] <unforgiven512> I think I'm going crazy, but there seems to be a "dead zone" about 5/8 of the way from the top of my screen, where nothing reacts to mouse clicks, scroll wheel, etc. It's just... "dead".
[10:25] <mickster04> Camer0n: why xampp?
[10:25] <JPJ> Dang, because netbooks do seem a great platform for ubuntu. I will have to try jolli though
[10:25] <Camer0n> why not?
[10:25] <dasjkfdaskjl> Salut
[10:25] <mickster04> Camer0n: well what does campp do?
[10:25] <mickster04> xampp*
[10:25] <Camer0n> makes an online server...
[10:25] <dasjkfdaskjl> J'ai
[10:26] <mickster04> Camer0n: you mean just lamp right?
[10:26] <Camer0n> ye
[10:26] <Camer0n> s
[10:26] <mickster04> !init
[10:26] <JPJ> Seems interesting, my uncle loves Google Chrome, and jolli seems to use it a lot
[10:26] <mickster04> Camer0n: any help?
[10:27] <Camer0n> ah thanks
[10:27] <Camer0n> il have a look
[10:27] <Camer0n> *i'll
[10:27] <mickster04> Camer0n: i dunno why'd you need xampp though, you can do everything thru the cli :p it's jsut as easy :D
[10:28] <Camer0n> how?
[10:28] <mickster04> Camer0n: well all the config stuff is editable, and you can copy paste files in the www folder etc?
[10:29] <Camer0n> and how do I use the bum package, the link is nothing to do with start up
[10:29] <Camer0n> oh well, I've done this now
[10:29] <Camer0n> how do I make them start up
[10:30] <JPJ> Can ubuntu double boot along with vista?
[10:30] <JPJ> If it doesn't work with the netbook, I might try it with the laptop aswell
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> has anyone ever gotten FAQtor (Python HTML FAQ generator script) working under Ubuntu?
[10:30] <Starminn> JPJ: Yes, Vista and Ubuntu can dual-boot.
[10:30] <JPJ> Someone told my uncle that ubuntu would erase it in any case and he is freaked out
[10:31] <JPJ> Double boot is the thing
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> I keep getting traceback ending in "class InputReader(saxutils.DefaultHandler): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'DefaultHandler'"
[10:31] <mickster04> Camer0n: system>admin>start up programs
[10:31] <JPJ> Shame some certain stuff is incompatible with ubuntu, it's a great browsing platform
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> and I'm not sure if it's just written poorly, or if I am missing some saxutils thing (which I cannot see how to install)
[10:31] <Camer0n> ubuntu server
[10:31] <mickster04> JPJ: such as?
[10:31] <mickster04> Camer0n: lol my bad
[10:32] <mickster04> Camer0n: ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:32] <Camer0n> oh thanks, didn't know there was one!
[10:32] <mickster04> Camer0n: now you do :D
[10:32] <JPJ> broadband USB, Videocall with MSN, many games
[10:32] <DocPlatypus> it's at http://faqtor.sf.net in case anyone wants to grab it and give it a whirl
[10:32] <JPJ> Wait, Skype works well with ubuntu
[10:32] <mickster04> !lamp | Camer0n
[10:32] <mickster04> Camer0n: if you can't get zampp working how you want it, this will help
[10:34] <Camer0n> thanks!
[10:38] <LBo> Does anyone know where gnome stores my printers?
[10:39] <mickster04> LBo: open a program and select print? it might tell you there :p
[10:39] <mickster04> LBo: sorry i'm not in ubuntu atm
[10:39] <DocPlatypus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594406/ -- what is this and how do I fix it?
[10:39] <lolmatic> i use prelude-notify to get notifications on my desktop. now i get a lot of spam because i also get the low threat messages. but i only want to have the medium and critical ones...
[10:40] <whitekidney> Hi there - I'm having a few problems with my bass, instead of bass it's like.. alot of distortion, solution for this?
[10:40] <Starminn> LBo: System->Administration->Printing?
[10:41] <JPJ> 22qq
[10:41] <dEhiN> whitekidney: I think you're in the wrong channel!
[10:41] <LBo> Starminn: I mean. I reinstalled ubuntu and backup-ed my previous home directory
[10:41] <whitekidney> Nooo, It's a problem I'm having with ubuntu only.
[10:41] <LBo> So I want to restore the previous printers
[10:41] <LBo> But I don't know in which directory they are stored
[10:41] <dEhiN> whitekidney: ok
[10:42] <Ben64> whitekidney: what program
[10:42] <whitekidney> Ben64: All programs.
[10:43] <whitekidney> Ben64: Oh wait no, It's only in my browser now. Chrome.
[10:43] <Ben64> whitekidney: you could try to remove pulseaudio, but that also makes the volume control on the taskbar go away
[10:45] <calwig> Hey how do you get a JPG to ASCII?
[10:46] <Ben64> jpg is a picture, ascii is text, that doesn't work
[10:46] <calwig> Ben64: you know like base it all on ASCII
[10:46] <calwig> it converts the JPG photo on to ASCII
[10:46] <Ben64> huh?
[10:46] <calwig> so you can paste it on a doc
[10:47] <Ben64> oh
[10:47] <tomatobros> http://lunatic.no/ol/img2aschtml.php
[10:47] <calwig> and it looks like an image
[10:47] <calwig> tomatobros: u da man
[10:47] <tomatobros> :)
[10:54] <DocPlatypus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594406/ -- what is this and how do I fix it?
[10:55] <marcelC> hello
[10:56] <marcelC> anyone used kubuntu lucid, and maverick? I am courios how was the splash screen or if there is any difference, did you guy;s experienced an DARKER BLUE bootscreen/splash and a LIGHTER BLUE?
[10:56] <he1net> :p
[10:56] <_303> DocPlatypus: googling for the error gives me this: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2002-May/007670.html -> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2002-May/007677.html
[10:57] <pehden> is there a way to tell tor to gew new identity via command line
[10:58] <marcelC> it;s strange, I installed / reinstalled ubuntu & apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and installed kubuntu & apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but there are some differences between the shades of the polymonth bootscreen/splash
[10:58] <DocPlatypus> _303: okay, where is this mythical PyXML package in Ubuntu, then?
[10:59] <DocPlatypus> because I looked and I can't find it. btw I'm still on karmic
[10:59] <DocPlatypus> and it should still be there, if this error message leads to an email dating from 2002.
[11:00] <lahwran> DocPlatypus: what are you trying to run?
[11:00] <DocPlatypus> lahwran: FAQtor, an HTML FAQ compiler written in Python. http://faqtor.sourceforge.net
[11:00] <_303> I suppose it's in the python package index, install with pip or easy_install
[11:00] <lahwran> http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+install+pyxml+on+ubuntu
[11:01] <lahwran> first result looks mighty promising
[11:02] <farrukhjon> help with bind9 how connect to the domain bind9 our Win-PCs
[11:04] <unityproblem> hello people..
[11:04] <unityproblem> any body to help with problems on ubuntu 11.04??
[11:05] <aethelrick> unityproblem: just ask :)
[11:05] <obengdako> unityproblem, go to #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <yellabs> hello all you good people
[11:06] <obengdako> and ask don't ask if anyone can help just ask
[11:06] <yellabs> i have a small problem, when using the mouse pointer i cant klick and drag the window , any tip is more then welcome
[11:06] <unityproblem> when i boot my system i dont see anything on ubuntu 11.04..
[11:07] <yellabs> oh , just found the answer myself, thanks for the moral support !
[11:08] <unityproblem> good yellabs!
[11:08] <obengdako> unityproblem, ctrl-alt-f1
[11:09] <yellabs> yeah , i am cool
[11:09] <yellabs> :P
[11:09] <obengdako> unityproblem, does that take you to a terminal?
[11:09] <yellabs> thanks , have an nice day you all !
[11:10] <mattgman> is there a program that retrieves audio tags from the net?
[11:10] <bouma> ubuntu 10.04 was installed recently and has some issues. which i would like to diagnose. so im thinking, seeing as i havent run tripwire or anything else which might have taken checksums, i guess i can use debsums, but when it comes to the boot system or kernel images, is there a recommended way to verify the integrity of grub and the kernel images from a boot disc
[11:10] <bouma> ?
[11:12] <poccha> hello, is it possible to install postgresql9 via software center?
[11:12] <vishnu> hi
[11:13] <user82> hi short question. if i do the Natty beta update via "update-manager -d" can i do the same again for the stable in 2 weeks?
[11:13] <vishnu> how to access a website through a port number
[11:13] <sburwood1> When I boot my Maverick, after giving the password, I get a screen that says that it can't do something with my /home/¬.ICEauthority.  What does that mean and how can I change that?
[11:14] <marcelC> how can I remove a ppa repro?
[11:14] <erUSUL> sburwood1: probably permissions problems. ( i.e. you used sudo with a grphical app )
[11:14] <marcelC> sudo remove-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup / sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[11:14] <bouma> how do i check the integrity of a system ?
[11:15] <erUSUL> sburwood1: boot into rcovery mode root shell and do « chown username:username /home/username/.ICEauthority »
[11:15] <sburwood1> I am the authority on my computer.  It is after I choose my access and have entered the pasword.
[11:15] <erUSUL> !gksudo | sburwood1 so it not happens again
[11:15] <gnewb> user82: The short and quick is yes, but backup all data and whatnot, basically the /home dir, see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha2
[11:16] <wcheng> hello . i am a new linuxer ,  i create a new user and delete the old user , them have a same name ,then shutdown ,the system cant work
[11:16] <sburwood1> erUSUL: Will try that.  Thanks.  Also, when Natty comes out, shoud that be a problem?
[11:16] <user82> gnewb: thanks...highly experimental machine no important stuff
[11:16] <sburwood1> thanks
[11:16] <iceroot> wcheng: you deleted /home/username?
[11:16] <erUSUL> sburwood1: no
[11:16] <iceroot> wcheng: because that belongs to the old user (uid)
[11:16] <wcheng> try
[11:17] <wcheng> rm /home/username ?
[11:17] <marcelC> ! ppa | marcelC
[11:17] <gnewb> user82: Okeed okee, make a backup or use one for the rest of us as it is still in testing, Thank you.
[11:17] <iceroot> wcheng: ls -l /home/username should show a numbre for the owner instead of a username?
[11:17] <user82> anyone a guess...is 3/4 hour sufficient to update 10.10 to 11.04 beta?
[11:17] <iceroot> user82: #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <DarsVaeda> hi i need a ftp server for local testing, whats the easiest to setup?
[11:18] <kl_> wcheng: How did you create a new user and delte the old user?
[11:18] <wcheng> change the ole user name fire
[11:18] <wcheng> first
[11:19] <kl_> wcheng: ok
[11:19] <gnewb> vishnu: Server?
[11:19] <yuanye> which
[11:19] <kl_> wcheng: Then what?
[11:19] <tomatobros> DarsVaeda:  check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630
[11:19] <yuanye> which uml tool is best?
[11:19] <erUSUL> user82: depends on the amounts of data you have to dlad internet speed etc ...
[11:19] <erUSUL> !best
[11:20] <wcheng> the system cant work , the app cant open
[11:20] <yuanye> i want to find a uml tools for my ubuntu
[11:20] <DarsVaeda> tomatobros:thx
[11:20] <kl_> wcheng: Or you on that system now?
[11:20] <wcheng> yes , it can work by root
[11:21] <Camer0n> someone told me not to use xampp but to use the equivelant that is already supported in ubuntu, how??
[11:21] <piflechine> SAlut
[11:21] <LukasB> Hi all, I try to install a development environment for drupal on ubuntu and I follow this guide: http://vmirgorod.name/11/1/20/drupal-development-environment-based-ubuntu-1010 I have problems with 2. D - terminal says no releases available... any hints?
[11:21] <piflechine> Sal;ut les gens
[11:21] <kl_> wcheng: So you are on root now?
[11:21] <tunsi> Salve a tutti..
[11:21] <obengdako> Camer0n, and how were you going to use xampp?
[11:22] <wcheng> no , just the xchat on root
[11:22] <gnewb> !fr | piflechine
[11:22] <obengdako> Camer0n, were you going to wine it?
[11:22] <Camer0n> lampp
[11:22] <Camer0n> i mean
[11:22] <obengdako> Camer0n, not to use lamp why?
[11:23] <obengdako> what else is the equivalent? Camer0n
[11:23] <Camer0n> aparently theres something built in already
 why are you using third-party versions of applications that are available & supported in Ubuntu ?
[11:23] <obengdako> you already have apache inbuilt
[11:23] <kl_> wcheng: add a new user with "adduser --no-create-home the-user-name"
[11:23] <Camer0n> how do i use it?
[11:23] <kl_> wcheng: where the-user-name is username in /home
[11:23] <tunsi> scusate, avrei un problema, da poco sono passato ad ubuntu migrando da suse e mentre su suse mi veniva riconosciuta la scheda video, ubuntu mi va solo 832x624
[11:24] <obengdako> not sure about msql and php but you'd have to install them if you want those services running on the server
[11:24] <Parallx> a
[11:24] <gnewb> it | tunsi
[11:24] <obengdako> well just edit the configuration in /etc/apache2
[11:24] <Camer0n> well actually, if its going to take long i wont
[11:24] <gnewb> !it | tunsi
[11:25] <Camer0n> because its taken me AGES to install lampp lol
[11:25] <tunsi> ok, thanks
[11:25] <obengdako> but i suggest you install the whole suite as it would make you web server run more efficiently
[11:25] <Camer0n> why?
[11:25] <wcheng> the old user , i want change the folder name
[11:25] <obengdako> Camer0n, really it doesn't take long to install and how are you installing it?
[11:26] <Camer0n> no, its the set up the takes ages
[11:26] <Camer0n> I installed it fine
[11:26] <kl_> wcheng: The username or the folder name?
[11:26] <obengdako> Camer0n, are you using the package manager to install it
[11:26] <Camer0n> but I'm making lots of little changes
[11:26] <obengdako> Camer0n, you just finished installing it?
[11:26] <Camer0n> I'm using ubuntu server
[11:26] <unityproblem> my unity desktop is not appearing on screen
[11:26] <Camer0n> no, i installed it the other day but I'm using vbox and having to share the files etc.
[11:26] <obengdako> ubuntu server has all that i suppose inbuilt
[11:27] <wcheng> kl_ :the folder name , how can i do it in terminal ?
[11:27] <obengdako> unityproblem, what exactly is happening we need more info to help you
[11:27] <Guest18942> hi all
[11:28] <obengdako> unityproblem, after boot, during boot, on power on, after logging in? what exactly
[11:28] <bouma> hey
[11:28] <kl_> wcheng: in /etc/passwd
[11:29] <ct529> hi there! I have to search for a string inside some MS Office file in a directory. Can I do that from command line?
[11:29] <bouma> if i boot into a live cd, and then chroot to a system partition, how can i apt-get install packages? as is it says W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:29] <bouma> etc
[11:30] <Wipster> Hi all, I am trying to contact my ubuntu machine from a windows one by host name 'Sparkler' in cmd in windows I am able to ping other machines 'ping Lab' but pinging the laptop doesn't work....
[11:30] <kl_> wcheng: or usr "usermod --home /somwhere username"
[11:30] <kl_> wcheng: use*
[11:31] <Wipster> But I can ping the laptop using the IP address.... so it is there
[11:31] <wcheng> kl_: ok thanks
[11:31] <kl_> wcheng: you might also want to use the --move-home to keep old files
[11:32] <bouma> harro, what do i need to do to chroot from a boot cd and use apt-get install ??
[11:32] <wcheng> yes
[11:33] <gnewb> Wipster: Is one a Wireless?
[11:34] <Wipster> yes but I am using a vpn tunnel into the network so effectivly wired
[11:34] <gnewb> Wipster: Maybe here:> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/wireless.html
[11:35] <bouma> ni
[11:35] <Wipster> gnewb, dont think thats what I'm after, cheers anyway
[11:36] <gnewb> Wipster: Your welcome, I am still looking for some more relevant docs...
[11:36] <mentaldevils_> Wipster: How do you expect Windows to know the hostname?
[11:37] <gnewb> Wipster: Are you using Samba?
[11:37] <Wipster> mentaldevils, a good question the same way it does my other machines I dont know my networking and how names are resolved unfortunatly, I am using samba
[11:39] <mattgman> what's the install string for unity on 10.10?
[11:39] <gnewb> Wipster: Here is the LikeWiseOpen doc:> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html , and here is Samaba:> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/samba-ad-integration.html#ad-integration-windows-share
[11:40] <Wipster> if it helps when I come in on the VPN tunnel I am assigned an IP in a different subnet can see the whole network but still in x.x.1.x not x.x.0.x
[11:41] <kl_> mattgman: what you mean by install string?
[11:41] <mattgman> nevermind, found it.  should have looked on google before asking
[11:42] <jane_> ??
[11:42] <mentaldevils_> Wipster: I think that has something to do with it... networking can be tricky but if you buckle everything down and do things in a sensical way it should just work
[11:42] <josip> hello... need help with installing nattz_
[11:42] <jane_> need help
[11:43] <jane_> who can speak chinese
[11:43] <jane_> ???
[11:43] <kl_> !ch
[11:43] <B-r00t> lol
[11:43] <kl_> !chinese
[11:43] <[deXter]> Um, that's german lol
[11:43] <jane_> ok
[11:43] <jane_> thank you
[11:44] <[deXter]> !cn
[11:44] <[deXter]> That's how you do it ;)
[11:44] <Wipster> mentaldevils, yeh thats what I am trying to do at the mo, I can access by IP but not hostname. Its on a different workgroup but then so is the lab pc so windows works that one out....
[11:45] <josip> can someone help with natty installation?
[11:45] <[deXter]> !natty
[11:45]  * obengdako is away: Away obengdako is idling about
[11:45] <enriq> hi I need to change the default kernel in the grub list, still want to keep it as an option, what should I change?
[11:45]  * obengdako is back (gone 00:00:06)
[11:45] <[deXter]> !grub
[11:46] <enriq> !grub2
[11:46] <red> I followed these instructions to create a user for vsftpd: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/03/05/how-to-setup-vsftpd-ftp-on-ubuntu-linux/
[11:47] <red> Now when I use nautilus to login to the FTP, the ftpuser can see the whole machine and other users files
[11:47] <red> How can I control this?
[11:47] <bc81> hi.  when i originally installed 10.10 (a few months ago) i chose not to encrypt my home folder, but now i would like to.  do i need to reinstall completely or is there an easier way?
[11:48] <tomatobros> red did u look @file sharing permissions in nautilius right click folder u want to share and go sharing frame
[11:49] <FloatingGoat> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125281&cm_re=1GB_agp-_-14-125-281-_-Product <--- will that work in ubuntu? proprietary?
[11:50] <red> tomatobros: need to do this in CLI
[11:50] <red> it's a server machine I connect to
[11:51] <red> just was using Nautilus on my desktop to connect to it and I can see stuff that I can't let the upcoming users see
[11:51] <red> would need to set somehow a certain 1 folder such as /home/ftp/ftpuser/
[11:51] <red> and in that one folder full rights to upload, download, create folders etc
[11:51] <bc81> FloatingGoat: searching the reviews for keyword "linux" and things do not look so good http://tinyurl.com/3gn8u5t
[11:52] <erUSUL> bc81: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/06/migrating-to-encrypted-home-directory.html
[11:52]  * obengdako is away: trying the away feature
[11:52] <tomatobros> red ok i understand check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[11:53]  * obengdako is back (gone 00:00:29)
[11:53]  * hiddensoul is away: AFK
[11:53] <bc81> erUSUL: thanks, it looks almost as if backup and reinstall would be easier ;-)
[11:53] <FloatingGoat> bc81: do you know what would be the best linux compatible card then? AG{?
[11:53] <FloatingGoat> AGP*
[11:53] <erUSUL> bc81: your call ;P
[11:54] <bc81> FloatingGoat: no idea, sorry
[11:55] <Gabbie> Hi guys, when you get this in your auth log Failed password for root xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 59894 ssh2    does that mean they tried to connect on that port rather than port 22?
[11:58] <yudi1> I am planning on installing win7+winXP+ubuntu in a triple boot with grub legacy as boot manager, how easy is it to get winXP to run from the extended partition with grub
[11:58] <FloatingGoat> my friend says he has a 4GB graphics card in his laptop, that possible?
[11:59] <yudi1> is it possible to boot ubuntu from an extended partition?
[12:01] <mattgman> woot, running unity.  not bad
[12:01] <N3> 11.04?
[12:01] <mattgman> 10.10
[12:01] <N3> o
[12:01] <N3> I'm upgrading as we type
[12:01] <mattgman> netbook edition, is what it's called for 10.10
[12:02] <mattgman> only 2 problems i have with it, are 1. you're unable to rearrange the bar icons and 2. when I go to files and folders, i expect a browser...it's only the recent and favorites...
[12:02] <N3> that sucks
[12:02] <N3> I bet there are some fixs
[12:03] <N3> fixes
[12:03] <N3> or you could make/find one yourself
[12:03] <N3> :)
[12:03] <mattgman> possibly.  gonna mess with it when i get up later
[12:03] <obengdako> mattgman, wrong if you want the file browser you click the little folder on the top right
[12:03] <mattgman> not seeing it anywhere
[12:03] <obengdako> go to file
[12:04] <obengdako> and then you see the top bar below the main panel
[12:04] <obengdako> and on the far right you'll see an open folder icon click it mattgman
[12:05] <obengdako> mattgman, and the new file view integration makes a united view hence unity lol
[12:05] <mattgman> well, i dont want the file manager to pop up, i'd rather it were all done in there
[12:05] <mattgman> i saw the folder icon you were talking about, but it pops up file manager
[12:06] <obengdako> yes exactly what you wanted mattgman
[12:06] <obengdako> hehhe
[12:06] <obengdako> you mean have nautilus run in the unity interface? mattgman
[12:06] <mattgman> right
[12:07] <mattgman> the interface just doesn't seem organized imo
[12:08] <obengdako> that would be wicked, because i myself have to open nautilus just to mount some drives first really sucks so i'm back in classic view mattgman
[12:09] <mattgman> id rather remove the "files and folders" icon on the bar and pin the actual browser (did the pin deal)
[12:10] <FloatingGoat> unity 2D is snappier than something that snaps
[12:12] <tim167> hello, i'm connected with a remote desktop, but the machine on the other end is frozen, I want to reboot it, how can I do that?
[12:12] <mattgman> think i will be waiting on gnome3 to come out myself
[12:13] <scoundrel50> Hi, has anybody managed to work out how to get around the backlight problem on boot up with the Natty install?
[12:13] <azm> Hi, I have only glibc-doc in repos
[12:13] <acicula> mattgman: its out
[12:13] <bazhang> scoundrel50, natty in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <erUSUL> azm: the question is?
[12:14] <ljsoftnet> whats a good plugin for gnome that monitors hard disk activity other than system monitor?
[12:14] <azm> erUSUL, if I have glibc installed
[12:14] <mattgman> acicula: it's still in Beta though, isn't it?
[12:14] <erUSUL> !info libc6
[12:14] <erUSUL> azm: ^
[12:15] <mattgman> acicula: I tried it yesterday and it didn't work the best...
[12:15] <ortsvorsteher> ljsoftnet, may you try gkrellm
[12:15] <scoundrel50> I know, but they arent answering, so I wondered if somebody else might be able to help.
[12:15] <acicula> mattgman: its not beta, its released. The default gnome version just doesnt mix very well with ubuntu atm
[12:16] <azm> erUSUL, thanks
[12:16] <scoundrel50> I have treid a few times on there, and nobody answers, and its getting kind of frustaing really.
[12:16] <mattgman> acicula: that must have been the issue.  waiting for them to be like two peas in a pod. :D
[12:16] <erUSUL> azm: no problem
[12:16] <ljsoftnet> ortsvorsteher you know any that can run in the panel
[12:16] <CooKieMonster_> i'm currenlty using ubuntu 8
[12:16] <ortsvorsteher> ljsoftnet, not at the moment.
[12:16] <CooKieMonster_> is there any risk to upgrade to the latest version ?
[12:16] <acicula> mattgman: well from what i understand unity and the gnome-shell from gnome3.0 are mutually exclusive atm
 why?
[12:17] <rabten> hi, needing some help with getting my wireless running on lucid lynx
[12:17] <rabten> http://pastebin.com/bbazedU0
[12:17] <ljsoftnet> ortsvorsteher ok
[12:17] <CooKieMonster_> is there any risk to upgrade to the latest version ?
[12:17] <rabten> http://pastebin.com/3UYvqr5s
 yes.
[12:18] <mattgman> acicula: i removed gnome3, so now i'm just running unity.  if the customization features were there, unity would be for me.  for now, think it's back to gnome2
[12:18] <CooKieMonster_> what r the risk
[12:18] <rabten> seems to be the thing that silences the experts
[12:18] <mattgman> stability, CooKieMonster_
[12:18] <CooKieMonster_> then if i keep using ubuntu 8 will there be security risk ?
 possible
[12:19] <bazhang> rabten, whats the nic
[12:19] <mattgman> CooKieMonster_: , im running 10.10.  get on it.  just dont go 11.04 yet
[12:19] <rabten> bazhang: rt2570
[12:19] <rabten> bazhang: hang on i'll show you
[12:19] <Gto286> <-- on 10.04 lts
[12:20] <bazhang> rabten, does it show in ifconfig
[12:20] <CooKieMonster_> what's the best to upgrade without any problem
[12:20] <JuJuBee> Can I add a network card without re-installing? and have it work without much hassel?
[12:20] <rabten> bazhang:  http://pastebin.com/YGww9RyF
[12:20] <bazhang> JuJuBee, depends on the card
[12:20] <JuJuBee> Netgear GA311
[12:21] <bazhang> JuJuBee, need the chipset not the brand name
[12:21] <acicula> mattgman: i never was a fan either, plus it would crash on my netbook fairly frequently
[12:21] <mattgman> CooKieMonster_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[12:21] <bazhang> rabten, does ifconfig show it
[12:21] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/XfRcjLfh
[12:21] <acicula> CooKieMonster_: are you using ubuntu 8.04?
[12:22] <CooKieMonster_> is version 10 look like those apple pc ?
[12:22] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/Ast9sXQ1
[12:22] <erUSUL> !hcl
[12:22] <CooKieMonster_> acicula yes
[12:22] <mattgman> yes CooKieMonster_
[12:22] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/YGww9RyF
[12:23] <acicula> CooKieMonster_: then you should upgrade indeed, as in a few months no more security updates will be issued for ubuntu 8.04 desktop (server versionwill be for another 2 years). You can directly upgrade from 8.04 to the latest LTS version 10.04
[12:23] <mattgman> CooKieMonster_: my desktop - http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206384_143731605697510_100001820144734_289339_4639099_n.jpg
[12:23] <bouma> does oobuntoo support ebonics ?
[12:24] <JuJuBee> bazhang: how do I find out before installing?
[12:24] <rabten> bazhang: so the answer to your question is, i dont think so, unless its there but i'm not seeing it. i have also pasted my output for lsusb, as my wireless is a USB card
[12:24] <bouma> it supports many other languages so why not ebonics ?
[12:24] <bazhang> rabten, please be patient, I'm checking ubuntuforums
[12:24] <acicula> !upgrade
[12:24] <azm> I can't compile nc
[12:24] <JuJuBee> bazhang: looks like Realtek's RTL8169S-32 chipset
[12:24] <CooKieMonster_> i dont know whether my system is up to task to handle version 10
[12:24] <azm> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:25] <acicula> CooKieMonster_: does that answer you question?
[12:25] <azm> and there is makefile.am .in
[12:25] <erUSUL> azm: ./configure
[12:25] <erUSUL> !source | azm
[12:25] <azm> done already
[12:25] <bouma> it supports many other languages so why not ebonics ?
[12:25] <erUSUL> !compile | azm
[12:25] <acicula> azm: you need to generate a Makefile first, read the README file or INSTALL file in the source directory
[12:25] <acicula> !repeat | bouma:
[12:25] <azm> I read it
[12:26] <azm> it should be classical ./configure make make install
[12:26] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377112 rabten here may be a fix
[12:26] <Flannel> bouma: Please help keep this channel ontopic, and not ask silly questions.
[12:26] <azm> ah sorry my bad
[12:26] <azm> I did not check the configure output
[12:27] <rabten> bazhang: thank you. i will check it out
[12:27] <azm> configure: error: glib-2.0 not found or version too old (must be >= 2.8)
[12:27] <rabten> bazhang: i have been searching the forum for days now. hopefully this one will help
[12:27] <acicula> bouma: you can contribute a translation, best to start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations
[12:27] <saal7193> how can i insert a word in the beginning of all the files in a folder?
[12:28] <bouma> can anyone tell me if there is a standard way of testing the integrity of the boot system, i supose grub and possibly the kernel image. i dont really under stand whats going on besides that with the ubuntu boot system
[12:28] <acicula> bouma: intel TXT technology can do that for you
[12:28] <mentaldevils_> saal7193: you might try out #perl
[12:29] <bouma> acicula: oh come on, surely you jest !
[12:29] <bouma> acicula:  i mean from a boot cd. similar to using debsums on the package files
[12:29] <saal7193> mentaldevils,  thanks
[12:29] <acicula> bouma: oh you mean you want to verify the integrity of the boot cd?
[12:29] <dustin> hi
[12:29] <mentaldevils_> hey dustin
[12:30] <dustin> how do i get all my codex install?
[12:30] <bazhang> dustin, ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[12:30] <dustin> mentaldevils, bazhang , hey yall :)
[12:30] <bouma> acicula: its a serious question, and something i'd like to learn how to do in the spirit of arthur dejong's debsums guide, whom i gave feed back recently as his script had become out of date as debsum's moved beyond md5's .. anyway
[12:31] <dustin> please do the the bot for me about subject, dont know how
[12:31] <bazhang> dustin, what subject
[12:32] <dustin>  ubuntu-restricted-extras package"
[12:32] <acicula> bouma: im sorry that i dont understand your question, you want to verify the installed files are still correct?
[12:32] <bouma> acicula: no not the boot cd, a system partition, from the known environment of a boot cd
[12:32] <ortsvorsteher> !bot | dustin
[12:32] <bazhang> dustin, install from package manager, or open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:32] <Blarumyrran> Hello. (very) new Linux user here. Are all terminal windows logged somewhere by default; if so then where? If not then how do I do that?
[12:32] <azm> there is no glib-2.0  in repos
[12:32] <dustin> how do you comand line update system?
[12:33] <bazhang> dustin, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:33] <erUSUL> dustin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:33] <P4ND3Y> dustin: sudo apt-get update
[12:34] <dustin> lol draw yall "" .... lmaf   thanbks
[12:34] <rabten> bazhang: now there is no 'wireless' listed in GNOME
[12:34] <bouma> acicula: arthur describes how to use debsums to check the integrity of each file in each package on a deb based system; im wondering how to also check the grub chain integrity and potentially also if there is a means of checking the kernel images and any other boot files
[12:34] <P4ND3Y> dustin: if you want to upgrade the distribution - sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[12:34] <mentaldevils_> erUSUL clearly won that round
[12:34] <rabten> bazhang: on the network manager toolbar
[12:34] <dustin> im at 10.10
[12:35] <Neo_> hi all; i want to capture video from the analog video card(it's name is SAA7134) but i don't know how to access it through VLC; can someone help me?
[12:35] <rabten> bazhang: just the current wired connection
[12:35] <dustin> 10.10 and64
[12:35] <mentaldevils_> and P4ND3Y needs to go and make sure they have been actually upgrading their system and not just updating the package cache
[12:35] <bazhang> P4ND3Y, thats not correct
[12:35] <dustin> Neo_,   you do what ?
[12:35] <acicula> bouma: well the kernel images are part of a package so also verified by debsum.
[12:36] <bazhang> rabten, is there a switch for wireless on the computer, and/or are you dualbooting
[12:36] <Blarumyrran> Hello. (very) new Linux user here. Are all terminal windows logged somewhere by default; if so then where? If not then how do I do that?
[12:36] <rabten> bazhang: no switch on computer for wireless. i am dual booting yes
[12:36] <Neo_> dustin, i want to capture video but i don't know the name of the peripheral (es: /dev/video0)
[12:37] <ortsvorsteher> Blarumyrran, how do you mean "logged"? do you mean a history?
[12:37] <bouma> acicula: ah, thanks. good point. and would this also extend to grub, i mean the various stages? cause they're not all simply files; it would be nice if deb's themselves had a built in integrity verifying system, and if this could extend to things like the stages of grub
[12:37] <bazhang> rabten, what about sudo ifup wlan0
[12:37] <Blarumyrran> ortsvorsteher, yes
[12:37] <acicula> bouma: but none of the grub files are
[12:37] <azm> help
[12:37] <azm> or the boat SINK
[12:37] <azm> configure: error: glib-2.0 not found or version too old (must be >= 2.8)
[12:37] <bazhang> azm, with what
[12:37] <azm> bazhang, I cant find it in repos
[12:37] <ortsvorsteher> Blarumyrran, you have a history in your home directory per default. .bash_history
[12:38] <bazhang> azm, explain clearly what you are trying to compile
[12:38] <azm> bazhang, clearly I'm trying to compile nc. Please do not direct me to synaptic.
[12:38] <bouma> acicula: right. are there any utils to check the grub boot chain? eg i dont believe that chkrootkit or rkhunter does this. it might be nice to make it part of grub itself. i mean without necessarily just reinstalling grub, as a means of 'verifying its integrity'
[12:38] <azm> mc* bazhang
[12:38] <acicula> bouma: well deb can not track files that are created by programs themselves, unless explicitly added by the deb maintainer, and even then its still a guess as what the file will contain
[12:38] <azm> midnight commander
[12:39] <bazhang> azm, why do you need to compile that
[12:39] <azm> bazhang, I want to make packages and be famous with my PPA
[12:39] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/t96DxHtB
[12:39] <bazhang> azm, thats not a clear answer
[12:39] <acicula> bouma: well some of the grub files are copied from /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-pc/
[12:39] <azm> bazhang, the version in repos is OLD
[12:40] <bouma> acicula: perhaps something like a fsa could be part of the deb contents to describe the possible state of a daughter file
[12:40] <bazhang> rabten, its wlan0 not wanl0
[12:40] <sylow> Hi, I'm setting up postfix , just to allow mails from the localhost (web applications). My idea was to block remote access to port 25. Will this work or give problems with other email hosts?
[12:40] <acicula> bouma: but those files dont seem to be the same
[12:40] <azm> bazhang, 4.7.0.6 versus 4.7.5.2
[12:40] <azm> now please help me
[12:41] <bazhang> azm, whats the new features that you need
[12:41] <azm> bazhang, it's just the feel of new version. I'm sorry
[12:41] <Blarumyrran> ortsvorsteher, that only lists the commands; i'd want outputs too
[12:41] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/KPaE0UKg
[12:42] <bazhang> azm, and you have build-essential installed?
[12:42] <acicula> bouma: at best you can track the files so you can remove them safely for uninstall, which i would guess the grub2 deb will already do. But it wont be able to do integrity checks for you since appearantly the files change
[12:42] <azm> bazhang, yep
[12:42] <acicula> acicula: or at least for me the stage files in /boot/grub are not the same as the one in /usr/share/grub/x86
[12:42] <azm> bazhang, http://pastie.org/1797106
[12:42] <acicula> bouma: see above
[12:43] <azm> bazhang, and it says: configure: error: glib-2.0 not found or version too old (must be >= 2.8)
[12:43] <ortsvorsteher> Blarumyrran, if you want all commands and the output, you can start a script command and after you can read your logfile.
[12:43] <liuzhongxiao> www.baidu.com
[12:43] <acicula> bouma: so if you want to track the integrity of such files you'll need to use something like tripwire or a more modern equivalent
[12:43] <liuzhongxiao> ping 192.168.0.1
[12:43] <acicula> or use TXT, which pricely does what you want, verify your boot process
[12:43] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, wrong channel
[12:44] <liuzhongxiao> bu hao yishi   kan bu dong
[12:44] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[12:44] <liuzhongxiao> 不好意思  看不懂
[12:44] <bouma> acicula: yeah, it would be nice if the deb format included something like, ranges with check sums for each range, so that files that are understood to change can change but the portions which should not can still be verifed. for example. or even to describe a scheme so that the file can have its integrity checked no matter how it has changed. ie to guard against 'buffer overflowed fields' or insertion of binary data etc
[12:45] <bazhang> !cn | liuzhongxiao
[12:45] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/KPaE0UKg
[12:45] <azm> bazhang, nothing ?
[12:45] <zlobozel> http://www.bsod.ro/ geek stuff :D
[12:45] <bazhang> zlobozel, dont paste here
[12:45] <liuzhongxiao> 大家好呀！能说点中文不
[12:45] <acicula> bouma: thats how it works now, all files that are installed and static you can verify using debsum?
[12:45] <liuzhongxiao> 我刚刚来咯
[12:46] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, /join #ubuntu-cn   ITs english here
[12:46] <bouma> acicula: im just suggesting it would be nice if a standard part of the deb/apt system was self integrity attestation, and yeah im against tpm, and realise there are limits as to what can be done without hardware and that software can be fooled within a vm. but its an idea
[12:46] <userVal> which is the best xampp or lampp?
[12:47] <bazhang> userVal, xampp is not supported here, so lamp
[12:47] <DarsVaeda> hi, how can i send files via ftp from my localhost to my localhost?
[12:47] <bazhang> !xampp > userVal
[12:47] <bouma> acicula: oh ok, well debsums is quite a bit better than what other platforms have. thanks for the clarification as to the current workings of apt.
[12:47] <Earl|away> hey, my ubuntu 8.04 displays my usb sound card but doesn't play any sound (it did but just once). the sound card works fine on another computer. how could i troubleshoot this problem?
[12:47] <liuzhongxiao> oh   my，god
[12:48] <acicula> bouma: you could hash portions of binaries, but validating binaries is a hard problem
[12:48] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/KPaE0UKg
[12:48] <Earl|away> normal sound over my internal sound card works too
[12:48] <acicula> bouma: also you can have a TPM just for TXT booting, without all the other nonsense that comes with it
[12:48] <userVal> bazhang: its like lampp apache,mysgql etc
[12:48] <bouma> acicula: i imagine it is a difficult problem.
[12:48] <bazhang> userVal, yes
[12:48] <bazhang> rabten, I've seen it
[12:48] <Kodec> Yoo !
[12:49] <azm> bazhang, it was libglib2.0-dev
[12:49] <rabten> bazhang: nothing comes up when i run iwconfig no either, no wireless detected
[12:49] <bouma> acicula: right. is there an opensource project working on a booting txt for linux that you know of ?
[12:49] <userVal> bazhang: know any diferrencess  about this two
[12:50] <rabten> bazhang: maybe i should remove that blacklist rt2500usb that i just created?
[12:50] <bazhang> userVal, this is not really the place to discuss that
[12:50] <bazhang> userVal, lamp is supported here if you need more info please ask
[12:50] <userVal> bazhang: wow! sorry
[12:50] <Kodec> Is it possible to change from Gnome to Fluxbox ?
[12:50] <bazhang> rabten, right, that usb wireless device is problematic at best
[12:51] <bazhang> Kodec, sure
[12:51] <Kodec> By Dragon , Huh ?
[12:51] <bazhang> Kodec, apt-cache search flux for some packages
[12:51] <rabten> bazhang: it was working fine before the upgrade to 10.04
[12:51] <jrib> Kodec: sure, install fluxbox and then select it at the login screen
[12:51] <Kodec> Yeah I got I got , Thanks dudu
[12:51] <rabten> bazhang: and it works fine in win
[12:51] <bazhang> rabten, yes, and some have gotten it working by blacklisting it and using the rt2570sta
[12:52] <rabten> bazhang: i dont have rt2570sta
[12:52] <liuzhongxiao> Ylmf os
[12:52] <acicula> bouma: its supported from what i understand yeah, it does require you to have the right hardware (and processor support)
[12:52] <rabten> bazhang: how can i get that?
[12:52] <liuzhongxiao> linux
[12:53] <bazhang> rabten, check the package manager for linux-backports-modules appropriate to your kernel
[12:53] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:53] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, ylmfos is NOT supported here
[12:54] <mohammad> :(
[12:54] <mohammad> my ubuntu is breaking apart
[12:54] <mohammad> its extracting
[12:54] <Juo> is there a way to specifiy a version when doing apt-get install, i want apache 2.2.2
[12:54] <bazhang> mohammad, need more info than that
[12:54] <Guest60593> i removed my python
[12:55] <bazhang> Guest60593, all on one line, its impossible to follow
[12:55] <Guest60593> and suddenly i saw some broken packages in broken filter of synaptic
[12:55] <jrib> Juo: Yes, you can specify version, but you'd usually want the latest available in your repositories (because those are usually the ones with the latest security updates).  Why do you want that version?
[12:55] <liuzhongxiao> Can you speak Chinese?
[12:55] <jrib> Guest60593: well you need python...
[12:55] <acicula> Guest60593: yeah you should not remove python
[12:55] <Guest60593> ok. i cannot fix the broken packages. they get several errors!
[12:55] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, not here as I've said many times to you
[12:56] <Guest60593> so how can i fix them all?
[12:56] <Juo> jrib: I want to use apache-upload-progress-module and it doesnt support anything after 2.2.2 as they removed something and it throws ap_is_HTTP_VALID_RESPONSE
[12:56] <Juo> I tried this fix https://github.com/julthomas/apache-upload-progress-module/commit/ee7679fab20caa31a3ae94d8b66f144446a3a9f0
[12:56] <Juo> but it doesnt seem to work
[12:56] <rabten> bazhang: what should i type in the package manager search field to find linux-backport-modules to support lucid lynx?
[12:57] <Guest60593> is there any way out?
[12:57] <jrib> Juo: the solution is definitely not to run a version of apache missing security patches
[12:57] <liuzhongxiao> sorry ,i am a chinese .i am not good at english
[12:57] <allure> Hello... I can't connect to a VPN, need help to crack this. Logs are: http://pastebin.com/YhWxDdgP
[12:57] <rabten> bazhang: : *appropirate to lucid lynx i mean
[12:57] <Guest60593> can i fix this mess with python?
[12:57] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao, ylmfos is not supported here. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <jrib> Guest60593: why did you even remove it?
[12:58] <liuzhongxiao> i do not know what you said
[12:58] <Guest60593> jrib: i clicked on synaptic, searched for python and right click on python, mark for removal
[12:58] <Guest60593> jrib: and apply
[12:58] <ikonia> Guest60593: he asked WHY, not HOW
[12:58] <jrib> Guest60593: this is "how" you removed it.  I asked "why" you removed it
[12:58] <liuzhongxiao> i do not know
[12:58] <rabten> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/rqMpv5Re
[12:59] <Juo> jrib: this for a in house machine, its not accessible via WAN so i dont care much about the patches
[12:59] <Guest60593> jrib: yes :D xqz me
[12:59] <Guest60593> jrib: my rhythmbox had a problem with pygtk
[12:59] <Guest60593> jrib: and i tried installing python gtk but it had some problems with python
[13:00] <Guest60593> jrib: so i decided to remove python and install it again
[13:00] <dustin> 是的，你需要什么？
[13:00] <jrib> Juo: apt-cache policy PACKAGE  will show you available versions in your repositories.  You can install a specific version with « apt-get install PACKAGE=version ».  You probably don't have 2.2.2 available anyway
[13:00] <rabten> bazhang: in package manager i found... linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic... shall i isntall that then?
[13:00] <bazhang> dustin, english only here
[13:00] <bazhang> rabten, yes
[13:00] <rabten> sweet
[13:00] <Juo> ok thanks jrib im going to checkout the forks on github and see if anyone has a patch that works :P
[13:01] <Guest60593> jrib: no idea? :(
[13:01] <rabten> bazhang: and then reboot?
[13:01] <jrib> Guest60593: what problems with python did python gtk have?
[13:02] <Guest60593> jrib: i dont remember
[13:02] <Guest60593> jrib: the big problem here is python itself
[13:02] <Guest60593> jrib: which i cannot install it again
[13:02] <jrib> Guest60593: that's weird...
[13:03] <jrib> Guest60593: what happens when you try to install it now...?
[13:03] <Guest60593> jrib: i dont need pygtk if python is back
[13:03] <Guest60593> first i got 7 broken packages
[13:03] <jrib> Guest60593: this is not why I am asking the questions.  I'm trying to understand the situation you were in *before* you decided to remove python
[13:03] <Guest60593> and when i want to insall those packages it gives my bunch on errors
[13:03] <Juo> jrib: you where right, I found a much more up to date version, thanks for the help anyway, ive got it working :D :D
[13:03] <jrib> Guest60593: please just pastebin what happens when you try to install python
[13:04] <dustin> bazhang, this was to talk to that asia brother , which i can to notic this is where the most help is coming from so i was being nice
[13:04] <jrib> Juo: cool :D
[13:04] <Guest60593> jrib: alright
[13:04] <evelyette> hi, I would like to install this: https://launchpad.net/~infra-it.ru/+archive/updates/+buildjob/2444977 ... how can I do it... currently I have maverick ... and I suppose I can get the 0.8 version of libpam-ldapd with this update ... but no idea how to update ?
[13:05] <DaveIngram> morning all. I have a server where top says over 90% of memory is being used, but shows no processes that are using memory. How can I figure out what's going on and clean that up?
[13:05] <Pici> DaveIngram: Can you pastebin the output of free -m ?
[13:05] <evelyette> but package libpam-ldapd in natty is only: Package: libpam-ldapd (0.7.13) [universe]
[13:05] <evelyette> but there is no newer versions of natty
[13:06] <rabten> bazhang: i installed linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic, rebooted, but still no detection of wireless
[13:07] <bazhang> rabten, and you blacklisted the appropriate module and modprobed the correct one as in that link now?
[13:07] <evelyette> is there any other ubuntu developer IRC channel ?
[13:07] <acicula> evelyette: start in #ubuntu+1
[13:08] <rabten> bazhang: the rt2570usb remains blacklisted. how do i modprobed the linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic ?
[13:08] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/yGgQFE4B
[13:08] <Guest60593> jrib: here is stuff which im able to copy
[13:08] <bazhang> rabten, by following the ubuntuforums link I sent you?
[13:08] <jrib> Guest60593: why can't you copy everything including command ?
[13:08] <Guest60593> jrib: im trying to make a screenshot out of those i cannot
[13:08] <Guest60593> jrib: um!
[13:09] <Guest60593> jrib:
[13:09] <rabten> bazhang: sorry, will go back and have a look
[13:09] <DaveIngram> Pici: http://pastebin.com/sR3qhkwu
[13:09] <Guest60593> jrib: cuz i use synaptic and it doesn't let me to copy anything
[13:09] <jrib> Guest60593: use a terminal: sudo apt-get install python
[13:11] <Pici> DaveIngram: Well, according to that output, you only have only 1.6 GB being used, the rest of the 'used' ram is in your cache.
[13:11] <Guest60593> jrib:apt-get recommends to use "apt-get -f install"
[13:11] <mattgman> ryzom still popular amongst yall?
[13:11] <jrib> Guest60593: please just pastebin command and full output, then we can decide what to do
[13:11] <Guest60593> jrib: doesn't it mess everything up? :(
[13:11] <bazhang> rabten, I'm a bit busy right now, sorry
[13:11] <rabten> bazhang: i;ve done what that link said
[13:11] <bazhang> mattgman, whats ryzom
[13:11] <rabten> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[13:11] <rabten> In the file add a line:
[13:11] <rabten> blacklist rt2500usb
[13:11] <FloodBot1> rabten: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <mattgman> bazhang: mmorpg
[13:12] <rabten> no-one can fix this simple problem
[13:12] <bazhang> mattgman, #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss please
[13:12] <DaveIngram> Pici: what exactly does that mean that it's in my cache?
[13:12] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/WQaD6xk7
[13:12] <mattgman> no worries.  only saw 200 in offtopic, so thought i'd ask the masses
[13:12] <wujie_> Why not 32-bit color ubuntu？
[13:12] <Guest60593> jrib: this is apt-get install python
[13:13] <DaveIngram> Pici: 1.6GB sounds more reasonable
[13:13] <ania13lat> wujie_: our bits are fatter than windows ones
[13:13] <jrib> Guest60593: what's the output of « sudo apt-get -f install »?
[13:13] <ania13lat> and 24 is pretty much equal to 32.
[13:14] <Pici> DaveIngram: It basically means that the kernel is holding on to a bunch of files in RAM so that they can be accessed more quickly than reading from disk. The kernel will free that cache if it needs to allocate ram to other processes.  Take a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ for some more details and examples.
[13:14] <jrib> Guest60593: and please try to include the command in what you copy to pastebin
[13:14] <DaveIngram> isn't the difference between 24-bit and 32-bit color pretty much imperceptible?
[13:14] <wujie_> The font looks a bit thin
[13:14] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/u5bnVpt8
[13:14] <acicula> DaveIngram: yes given that most screens wont even show 32bit colors
[13:14] <bouma> with the recent serious security issues, ie the one with dhcpcd and others, will there be a new 10.04 installer? cause i think the 10.04.2 isnt that recent
[13:15] <gnu_molester> servus
[13:15] <DaveIngram> Pici: ah, I see. Thanks for the link. Also good to know that all my 16GB are getting good use
[13:15] <Pici> wujie_: 24 bit color on linux = 32 bit color on Windows.  The 32bits includes an extra 8 bits of alpha.
[13:16] <acicula> bouma: i guess it'll come with the next major update
[13:16] <gnu_molester> anyone having some stupid Q: ?
[13:16] <bouma> and something i've never understood. when you install 10.04 it access the network, ie for time, and says that its getting the latest package updates, but then once its installed it need ~300meg of updates ontop of whatever it dl'ed during the install. it would be wonderful if it could be installed up to date
[13:17] <bouma> so that from the first boot it has the latest security updates
[13:17] <DaveIngram> Pici: so used memory - cache memory = memory being used by programs, right?
[13:17] <wujie_> Do not understand
[13:17] <jrib> Guest60593: we can try to fix this if you wish but reinstall will likely be faster.  How do you wish to proceed?
[13:18] <Pici> DaveIngram: Essentially.  Theres also buffered memory, but I don't recall the technical explanation for that off the top of my head.
[13:18] <Guest60593> jrib:no different. i rather reinstall
[13:18] <jrib> Guest60593: k
[13:18] <highse> hello
[13:18] <highse> some people speaking dutch?
[13:18] <acicula> !nl | highse
[13:18] <Koolio> !nl
[13:18] <highse> thx
[13:18] <DaveIngram> Pici: OK, so it's actually used - cache - buffer = program memory? buffer is anyway quite low
[13:18] <Guest60593> jrib:i must reinstall these packages one by one?
[13:19] <jrib> Guest60593: it's also strange that you have thees packages like alacarte installed because they clearly depend on python
[13:19] <jrib> Guest60593: no, I mean reinstall ubuntu
[13:19] <YankDownUnder> Pythons are dangerous.
[13:19] <Guest60593> jrib: o0oW! n0oo0o0o0o0oo0
[13:19] <Guest60593> jrib: thats awful!!!
[13:19]  * DaveIngram loves Pythons
[13:19] <jrib> Guest60593: hmm?
[13:19] <wujie_> ubuntu boot screen because the NVIDIA graphics driver installed on the deformation, can be resolved under the next version？
[13:20] <mr-rich> Help. My dbus-deamon is going nuts and won't let programs start. Tried sighup with no luck. HELP!
[13:20] <Guest60593> jrib: :( there aint any other solution?
[13:20] <Pici> wujie_: 32bit color is 24bit color with 8 bits of alpha.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#Truecolor for a better explaination,.
[13:20] <jrib> Guest60593: like I said, we can try to fix it but it will likely take longer than a reinstall
[13:20] <Guest60593> jrib: its been a while im using my ubuntu
[13:20] <wujie_> Thank you Pici
[13:21] <Guest60593> jrib: no problem for me! i guess i rather fix my mess than reinstall my ubuntu
[13:21] <evelyette> is it possible to look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libpam-ldapd under different tree than universe ... like experimental or something ?
[13:21] <sonoflilit> Hi
[13:21] <jrib> Guest60593: ok, to check if PACKAGE is installed, you run « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » and look at the "Installed: " line.  Is gconf2 installed?
[13:21] <sonoflilit> I configured a firewall on an ubuntu server
[13:21] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[13:21] <sonoflilit> and it somehow screwed email sending
[13:22] <sonoflilit> emails are sent, but very slowly
[13:22] <wujie_> ubuntu boot screen because the NVIDIA graphics driver installed on the deformation, can be resolved under the next version？
[13:22] <sonoflilit> it involves a webapp I wrote, so I won't ask specifically about it
[13:22] <sonoflilit> but generally - how do I log what my firewall blocks?
[13:22] <acicula> bouma: you could try a network based install instead?
[13:23] <gnu_molester> sonoflilit: by nodifying rules of course
[13:23] <gnu_molester> **modifying
[13:23] <Guest60593> jrib: W: Unable to locate package PACKAGE
[13:23] <rob_p> sonoflilit: When you disable the firewall, does the sending speed back up?
[13:23] <yudi1> how hard is it to install windows in external partition with grub as boot manager?
[13:23] <gnu_molester> yudi1: not so much for your mum or dad
[13:24] <genux> I am using the latest 11.04 ubuntu with the latest update the mouse scroll wheel has gone really fast!!. any ideas.
[13:24] <sonoflilit> rob_p: lol, when I disabled the firewall I locked myself out
[13:24] <sonoflilit> moment, will restar
[13:24] <Pici> genux : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:24] <sonoflilit> moment, will restart*
[13:24] <jrib> Guest60593: right, that's if you wanted to know whether or not a package named PACKAGE is installed.  But we want to know whether or not gconf2 is installed, so you would run: apt-cache policy gconf2   and look at the "Installed:" line
[13:24] <genux> thanks pici
[13:24] <acicula> sonoflilit: if you are using ufw you can just set the log level
[13:25] <rob_p> sonoflilit: It just seems curious unless you are using some packet matching rate-limiting on the port(s) being used by your mail system.
[13:25] <Guest60593> jrib: :D sure, Installed: 2.28.1-0ubuntu1
[13:25] <rob_p> sonoflilit: ...which would be possible, but not likely!
[13:25] <yudi1> how hard is it to install windows in extended partition with grub as boot manager? sorry I was going to say extended partition. is it hard to boot win XP from the extended partition
[13:26] <ljsoftnet> how do i put bookmark icon on google chrome toolbar
[13:26] <jrib> Guest60593: ok, pastebin the contents of the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/empathy.prerm .  You can type « gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/empathy.prerm » in a terminal, then copy and paste the whole file to pastebin
[13:26] <wujie_> Next you ask, how to install the video drivers will solve the problem caused by start-up screen distortion problem, which is BUG Mody？
[13:27] <acicula> ljsoftnet: windows can be installed just fine on a logical partition and be booted by grub
[13:27] <shadow1> guys i need some help with an issue Im having
[13:27] <shadow1> Anybody really good with linux?
[13:27] <Roasted_> Is there a way to install the Unity plugin on 10.10?
[13:27] <jrib> shadow1: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[13:28] <aeon-ltd> ljsoftnet: thats in chromes options
[13:28] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/PBf02Y2w
[13:28] <dustin> yudi1,  whats exended  partition mean?
[13:28] <shadow1> @ roasted I think there is
[13:28] <kevin__> #39
[13:28] <shadow1> Can anyone help me out?
[13:28] <shadow1> REally need help.
[13:28] <Pici> !ask | shadow1
[13:28] <dustin> shawdow1 , are you new ?
[13:29] <CooKieMonster> omg i just realised that ubuntu required 1 g memory
[13:29] <yudi1> dustin: means in one of the sub-partitions of the 4th partition
[13:29] <CooKieMonster> mine only got 512k
[13:29] <needhelp> Problems with my internet connection. It is up in 1min, then goes down and goes back online after 1 min, etc. Signal strength is max. This 1min on-1min off-connection only happens in Ubuntu, not in Windows.
[13:29] <sonoflilit> rob_p: disabling the firewall speeds up the emails as expected
[13:30] <sonoflilit> my firewall rules are very simple
[13:30] <sonoflilit> I allow outgoing, I allow incoming 22, 53, 80, 443
[13:30] <sonoflilit> that's about it
[13:30] <rob_p> sonoflilit: Are you rate-limiting in your ruleset?
[13:30] <aeon-ltd> CooKieMonster: thats fine, 1gb is reccommend
[13:30] <ljsoftnet> aeon-ltd im looking for an icon in the toolbar, not the bookmarks bar
[13:30] <sonoflilit> oh, and I allow existing
[13:30] <sonoflilit> no
[13:30] <jrib> Guest60593: « ls /usr/share/gconf/schemas/empathy.schemas » returns what?
[13:30] <CooKieMonster> 512k for ubuntu 10 version ?
[13:30] <zvacet> CooKieMonster:  did you installed ubuntu or just preparing to
[13:30] <acicula> CooKieMonster: its a recommended amount, it will work with 512 as well, but just more slowly
[13:31] <rob_p> sonoflilit: What *exactly* is slow?
[13:31] <aeon-ltd> CooKieMonster: its 512mb i think you mean
[13:31] <sonoflilit> I must be blocking some sort of communication between my web server, web app and/or exim4
[13:31] <ajin> shadow1: what's exactly your problem?
[13:31] <CooKieMonster> oh ya
[13:31] <damno> my isp is making me crazyy
[13:31] <Guest60593> jrib: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/empathy.schemas
[13:31] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[13:31] <sonoflilit> I just need to be able to log dropped packets and I'll figure it in a minute
[13:31] <CooKieMonster> not 512k that's my "broadbad" speed
[13:31] <jrib> shadow1: you need to ask an actual question before anyone can help you
[13:31] <shadow1> When I boot up 11.04 it says cannot display this" can anyone tell me how to fix?
[13:31] <Pici> shadow1 : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:31] <bazhang> shadow1, natty in #ubuntu+1
[13:32] <zvacet> CooKieMonster:  you can try http://lubuntu.net/
[13:32] <damno> shadow1: can not display what?
[13:32] <shadow1> Outta all these linux fans no one know this
[13:32] <sonoflilit> so, how do I log dropped packets?
[13:32] <shadow1> Cannot display this on screen
[13:32] <acicula> why not just recommend xubuntu?
[13:32] <shadow1> when grub should be prompting me
[13:32] <rob_p> sonoflilit: You can use the -j LOG to do that.  But I'd also suggest a packet sniff to see what's going on.  Maybe some packets are being dropped for some reason.
[13:32] <Pici> shadow1: you aren't looking the your responses.
[13:32] <bazhang> shadow1, #ubuntu+1
[13:33] <jrib> Guest60593: ah, gconf-schemas is a python script :)
[13:33] <shadow1> damn you guys suck balls dont even know how to fix a grub menu error
[13:33] <Guest60593> jrib: is that a good news?
[13:33] <rob_p> sonoflilit: Keep in mind that the order of the rules is important for logging.
[13:33] <zvacet> !natty | shadow1
[13:33] <jrib> Guest60593: it explains what's happening
[13:34] <rob_p> sonoflilit: For instance, if you drop before you log, nothing will be logged!
[13:34] <dustin> yudil,r u terying to put  linux then xp
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> shadow1:  the grub2 docs and wiki pages are worth a read.
[13:34] <ljsoftnet> how do i run google-chrome --bookmark-menu? and does this show the bookmark icon?
[13:34] <Guest60593> jrib: my python is not deleted?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  run thta command from a terminal, is one way
[13:34] <rob_p> sonoflilit: There are numerous examples on the 'Net for logging packets with iptables.
[13:35] <ljsoftnet> Dr_Willis ok
[13:35] <rabten> can anyone help with this? -> http://pastebin.com/9bs2QnRM
[13:35] <jrib> Guest60593: uh, it is?  What happens when you run « python »?
[13:35] <rabten> trying to get my wireless up and running
[13:35] <Guest60593> jrib: i see python command line
[13:35] <ljsoftnet> Dr_Willis the bookmark icon doesn't show up
[13:35] <jrib> Guest60593: erm.  What does « apt-cache policy python » return?
[13:36] <Jemt_> Hi. Is it possible to revert to a simpler window switcher (ALT + TAB) ? The one displaying small thumbnails of running applications is very slow. It takes half second to open it, which is annoying when I constantly switch windows
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  i have no idea what a bookmark icon, or that command even does.. you asked how to run it..
[13:36] <amirite> do i need to tell ubuntu to update the apt package tree or will using 'aptitude search' automagically tell me the latest package regardless
[13:36] <Jemt_> I'm running Ubuntu/Gnome
[13:36] <Guest60593> jrib: Installed: 2.6.5-0ubuntu1
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Jemt_:  compiz has pluggins and settings for several differnt alt-tab switchers
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | Jemt_
[13:36] <Jemt_> Dr_Willis: Excellent, thank you :)
[13:37] <ljsoftnet> Dr_Willis i know how to run it, but displaying the bookmark icon on google chrome toolbar doesnt show
[13:37] <jrib> Guest60593: so you didn't remove python.  What exactly happened when you used synaptic, right clicked on python, removed, and applied?
[13:37] <rabten> Dr_Willis: can you help me get my wireless up and running? - http://pastebin.com/9bs2QnRM
[13:37] <Guest60593> jrib: yes. but in the middle of removal it made some errors
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  all i do to get ireless going these days is click on the icon and select connect to my network.
[13:37] <jrib> Guest60593: ok
[13:38] <rabten> Dr_Willis: aye, thats what i used to do but then it became disabled or 'not ready' after i upgraded to 10.04
[13:38] <jrib> Guest60593: is the ubuntu-minimal package installed?
[13:38] <rabten> Dr_Willis: i've been searching the forums for days, and no-one seems to have a fix
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  one of the many reasons i rarely upgrade.. do clean installs.
[13:38] <Guest60593> jrib: uhum
[13:38] <rabten> Dr_Willis: ah ok
[13:39] <jrib> Guest60593: ?
[13:39] <rabten> Dr_Willis: is that easy with a dual-boot system?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  test it on a 10.04 live cd. see if it works. check what modules are loaded - as a start
[13:39] <Guest60593> jrib: Installed: 1.197
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  i keep my /home/ on its own parittion. clean installs are miuch eaier that way
[13:39] <rabten> Dr_Willis: i just installed linux-backports-modules-generic
[13:40] <rabten> Dr_Willis: from package manager, and rebooted but still nothing
[13:40] <jrib> Guest60593: « sudo apt-get install #
[13:40] <sonoflilit> ok, I seem to be blocking packets sent from myself to myself with real IP
[13:40] <amirite> if i do an update to aptitude, will searching with it automatically tell me the latest available
[13:40] <sonoflilit> can I add a rule that would allow these without specifying the ip explicitly?
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> amirite:  it should let you update to the latest. yes.
[13:40] <rabten> Dr_Willis: one thing i found on the forums was to blacklist rt2500usb, which i did
[13:40] <KL_> anyone using samba ?? what's you speed of copying a lot of SMALL files from ubuntu to windows
[13:41] <rabten> Dr_Willis: but not sure how to modprobe the new package
[13:41] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[13:41] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/3YEgmUEG
[13:41] <dustin> how do add ppl as a friend?
[13:41] <jrib> Guest60593: « sudo apt-get install aptdaemon gnome-control-center gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-session indicator-applet libgnomekbd4 nautilus empathy-common evolution-data-server totem »
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> KL_:  i find the bottle neck for me is often the hard drive speeds.  (gigabit networking here)
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> KL_:  theres some options you can tweak when mounting samba shares to get some speed boost. but ive rarely done so
[13:41] <CooKieMonster> what's the file size for upgrading from version 8 to 10
[13:42] <CooKieMonster> i couldn't find it on the net
[13:42] <KL_> Dr_Wiliis: I found it very big different between copy small files & large file
[13:42] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/CQjB4f6E
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> CooKieMonster:  you wouldbasically be redownloading all the files on the cd.. so i would giess about 650+MB
[13:42] <Roasted_> Does anybody know with using the Unity PPA in 10.10 is there's a way to customize preferences of the unity dock area to auto hide, etc?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  unity is very uncustomizeable. :(
[13:42] <sonoflilit> rob_p: ok, I seem to be blocking packets sent from myself to myself with real IP
[13:42] <sonoflilit> rob_p: can I add a rule that would allow these without specifying the ip explicitly?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  in 11.04 it does have some s4ettings. but not a lot of them
[13:42] <jrib> Guest60593: pastebin output of « apt-cache policy totem » and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:42] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, is it projected to be more customiztable?
[13:43] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, in the future that is
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  i would doubt if they add a lot of customization features. other then  basic settings.
[13:43] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, but this is linux. :(
[13:43] <jrib> CooKieMonster: there's really no such thing as version 8 or 10.  There's 8.04, 8.10, 10.04, and 10.10
[13:43] <CooKieMonster> 650mb ? that takes a whole day i wonder ubuntu update server will allow slow download rate
[13:43] <KL_> Dr_Wiliis: big files (eg. 500mb), I can get 50MB+/s but for small files, only 500kb/s. im not sure if it is only my problem or a common problem.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  that means very little. :) You can always go use gnome, or kde, or.....
[13:44] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, it means everything.
[13:44] <rabten> no one can help me here?
[13:44] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/PsNRfWAi
[13:44] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, and I'd kind of like to get away from using gnome. This may seem sad, but it is VERY appealing to me to have a desktop environment that I don't have to *constantly* re-arrange my icons in the top panel...
[13:44] <acicula> KL_: depending on the size of the files thats not so uncommon
[13:44] <CooKieMonster> what happen if i use the update manager to update and the download stop half way ?
[13:44] <amirite> how do i see what version will be installed when i use aptitude search
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  not really in the way you are meaning it..   They are standardizing the interface and trying diffent ways of doing things. gnome has been very limited in its customizabilty for years.
[13:45] <Guest60593> jrib: http://pastebin.com/eKAnaiYt
[13:45] <CooKieMonster> jrib that's just for easy typing
[13:45] <jrib> Guest60593: why do you have dapper, hard, lenny (a debian distribution), and lucid repositories?  And what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:45] <needhelp> Hello, Problems with my internet connection. It is up in 1min, then goes down and goes back online after 1 min, etc. Signal strength is max. This 1min on-1min off-connection only happens in Ubuntu, not in Windows.
[13:45] <jrib> CooKieMonster: in any case, please specify an actual version :)
[13:45] <Guest60593> jrib: im on ubuntu 10.10
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> needhelp:  and this is a wireless network?
[13:46] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, I see. I hope unity at least offers some comparable customizational features to it though. I always felt as though gnome was very customizable. Not quite KDE style but still quite a bit
[13:46] <Guest60593> jrib: does it make any problem
[13:46] <dustin> needhelp, are you on lan or wifi?
[13:46] <needhelp> Dr_Willis, yes
[13:46] <Guest60593> jrib: to have all of them
[13:46] <needhelp> Dr_Willis, wireless
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  gnome was amazing in how much customization/settings it lacked. :)  every try to change screen saver settings? :)
[13:46] <needhelp> dustin, wireless
[13:46] <jrib> Guest60593: yes, it's a problem since you have repositories for almost everything except 10.10...
[13:46] <CooKieMonster> what happen if i use the update manager to upgrade my ubuntu and the download stop half way ?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  gnome3 is also heading that route it seems.. 'less is more'
[13:46] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, what about them?
[13:47] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, you mean gnome shell?
[13:47] <CooKieMonster> will it resume where it stop or it will start all over again ?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  there basically is no screensaver settings..
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  i dont even pay attention to the gnome-future-whatever-it-is-this-week-reports.
[13:47] <dustin> needhelp, thats why, are you new to linux as a whole ?
[13:47] <jrib> Guest60593: at this point I think you should just backup your data and reinstall and stick to the official repositories for your version of ubuntu in the future
[13:47] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, KDE user?
[13:47] <Guest60593> jrib: um! so what is 10.10's repository!!
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  i just tend to use the basics of gnome.
[13:48] <needhelp> dustin, Im quite amateur. It works perfect in Windows, just in Ubuntu it is up every 2nd minute
[13:48] <jrib> Guest60593: you're probably (I hope) not on 10.10.  What does « lsb_release -r » return?
[13:48] <dustin> needhelp,  aka ubuntu ,  is a child os
[13:48] <Guest60593> jrib: for god's sake no! :( couldn't i jus fix these?
[13:48] <KL_> acicula: thanks. yes. im copy small files around 4kb ~30kb, extremely slow, tried a lot of tuning settings but no help :(
[13:48] <needhelp> needhelp, yes, I use ubuntu
[13:48] <needhelp> dustin, yes i use ubuntu
[13:48] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, I see I cant even change the arrangement of icons in my unity bar here in 10.10.
[13:48] <Guest60593> jrib: bash: /usr/bin/lsb_release: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[13:49] <dustin> how long have you been using this os ?
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> KL_:  these are not from from a usb hard drive are they?
[13:49] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, not really sure why somebody even bothered to package this PPA together if you get the same usage out of it as watching a youtube video of it in action :P
[13:49] <Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS
[13:49] <Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS
[13:49] <Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS
[13:49] <Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS
[13:49] <Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS
[13:49] <FloodBot1> Kentfordth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  yep. thats their design it seems.
[13:49] <jrib> Guest60593: cat /etc/lsb-release
[13:49] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, 11.04 doesn't exhibit that, I'm sure of.
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  11.04 dosent even have that system tay by default.
[13:49] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, what system tab
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  11.04 is close to a total rewrite in many ways
[13:49] <Guest60593> jrib: DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 my bad!
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> 'system tray'
[13:50] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, when is 11.04's official release date?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  end of the month :) the version is teh year/month
[13:50] <Roasted_> Dr_Willis, I knew that. I just wasn't sure which day was its actual release.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  thers no set day. other then the end of the month i think.
[13:50] <jrib> Guest60593: back up your data (/home) and reinstall ubuntu.  In the future do *not* use unofficial repositories or repositories not meant for your version of ubuntu
[13:50] <KL_> Dr_Willis: from samba server to windows (harddisk to harddisk, actually I have tried SSD to SSD, so it's not limited by storage device speed)
[13:50] <dustin> needhelp,  pm me
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> 10.10 came out on the 10th because it was funny to do so. :)
[13:51] <acicula> KL_: well you can use filesystem tweaks like noatime, tweak your network settings and check for samba tweaks, but fetching a lot of small files from a disk takes time
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> KL_:  ok. theres known USB device speed issues. so guess thats not the limition.
[13:51] <acicula> KL_: what kind of disk is it btw?
[13:51] <Guest60593> jrib: you do not know any other solution??
[13:51] <jrib> Guest60593: it would require too much work
[13:51] <ajin> needhelp: i think your problem was due to the wireless card driver problem
[13:51] <jrib> Guest60593: it's not worth it
[13:52] <KL_> acicula: what do you means ?
[13:52] <Guest60593> jrib: how can i do it myself??
[13:52] <acicula> KL_: what kind of hard drive re you using
[13:52] <needhelp> ajin, how do i fix it?
[13:52] <ajin> upgrade the kernel
[13:52] <CooKieMonster> does ubuntu update manager has resume feature ?
[13:52] <Trashi> hi. does anybody know a open source project for planing events? for example to plan courses and lessons in a school or in a gym?
[13:52] <KL_> acicula: SATA 2 & SSD
[13:53] <acicula> what kind of SSD?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> CooKieMonster:  if it was Downloading the files.. it should resume.
[13:53] <Guest60593> jrib: because i got too many packages and configurations in my linux :(
[13:53] <KL_> acicula: intel G3
[13:53] <Guest60593> jrib: it's tough to reinstall it like this
[13:53] <ohsix> hm, what can i use to have a program only proxy outgoing connections to a certain port; tsocks looks like it can do it but as configured to do so, it does not
[13:54] <jrib> Guest60593: get the last apt-get command I gave you to succeed.  You'll notice there are version issues, likely because of your repository list.  So first you'll have to fix your sources.list.  Then you seem to be able to run python but just now you had a command that could not use python (lsb_release).  So you'll have to investigate that too.  Lastly, you'll want to make sure you get something like
[13:54] <jrib> "ubuntu-desktop" installed.  Reinstalling will be easier and I strongly recommend you take that route
[13:54] <ajin> needhelp: what's wireless card vendor?
[13:54] <acicula> KL_: odd, those arent that bad at random reading to begin with
[13:55] <needhelp> ajin, Realtek or Gigabit
[13:55] <CooKieMonster> drwillis if the internet connect drop the update manager will resume on the next run ?
[13:55] <acicula> KL_: anything else that could be causing bottlenecks?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> CooKieMonster:  it has for me..
[13:56] <ajin> i just upgrade my kernel to 2.6.38, and my o2 SD card problem was resolved
[13:56] <KL_> acicula: no i think. only happen on copying small files.
[13:57] <KL_> acicula: ping time < 1ms
[13:57] <CooKieMonster> gtg
[13:58] <ajin> needhelp: you can check whether there's any newer version of your wireless card driver, if not, then try upgrading your kernel
[13:59] <needhelp> ajin, can i upgrade my kernel with synaptic ?
[13:59] <needhelp> sudo apt-get kernel or something ?
[13:59] <ajin> technically...yes
[13:59] <spannerotoole> anyone know a good mega drive emulator?
[14:00] <ajin> wait a minute, let me check the command to upgrade the kernel ,seems you need a kernel PPA
[14:00] <spannerotoole> ajin: is that not dangerous?
[14:01] <DemoOn> best way how to recover grub after windows installation?
[14:01] <ajin> my OS run smoothly till now
[14:02] <acicula> DemoOn: boot a livecd
[14:02] <ajin> using Linux will never be fun, if there's no venture, right?
[14:02] <acicula> !dualboot
[14:02] <ajin> lol
[14:03] <acicula> !recover
[14:03] <acicula> hmm this is not the factoid you were looking for
[14:04] <spannerotoole> ok, but the problem with ppa's is that you give someone else root access to your machine
[14:04] <Deadglow> i have successfully installed ubuntu alongside windows but it does not start. i get the message [   12.024975] firmware: emu/emu 0404.fwnot found Err = -2
[14:04] <DemoOn> sudo: grub: command not found
[14:04] <Deadglow> the emu 0404 is my sound card
[14:04] <acicula> DemoOn: if you booted the live-cd you have to run update-grub to set it up
[14:04] <ajin> needhelp: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[14:04] <ajin> sudo apt-get update
[14:05] <ajin> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.38-1-generic linux-image-2.6.38-1-generic
[14:05] <spannerotoole> deadglow? which card are you using?
[14:05] <spannerotoole> what chipset
[14:05] <spannerotoole> is this card internal or external?
[14:05] <DemoOn> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). It is mounted
[14:06] <Deadglow> it's internal
[14:06] <spannerotoole> type lspci in a terminal
[14:06] <spannerotoole> tell me what it says there for your soundcard
[14:06] <acicula> DemoOn: have a look at the wiki page lnked before, you probably have to mount a partition first
[14:07] <acicula> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:07] <Deadglow> it says it's not recognized as a command
[14:07] <spannerotoole> ok
[14:08] <DemoOn> i get this error http://pastebin.com/B4RPntgt when i'm trying grub-install
[14:09] <ZykoticK9> Deadglow, if you are trying to figure out what soundcard you have you could try "lspci | grep -i audio"
[14:09] <fisix> why does my ethernet card seem to have 2 mac addresses, leading to my router not assigning the static ip sometimes?
[14:09] <spannerotoole> lspci (l for lemon s for strange p for picture c for crow i for install)
[14:09] <spannerotoole> fisix, have you got two ethernet cards?
[14:09] <Deadglow> ah you mean at the ubuntu command prompt
[14:09] <spannerotoole> yes
[14:10] <fisix> spannerotoole, it's a laptop so it has a wireless and an ethernet. it shouldn't have "two ethernet cards" to my knowledge..
[14:10] <Deadglow> i can look in everest
[14:10] <spannerotoole> fisix, the wireless card is considered to be a network card
[14:11] <spannerotoole> deadglow, do you have alsa installed and updated?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> fisix: each interface will have only one mac address, it can have multiple IPs though
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Deadglow: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network   you will see it
[14:11] <fisix> spannerotoole, lol i get that. but i'm not on wireless, it's switched off. just on ethernet
[14:11] <spannerotoole> fisix, open terminal and type sudo ifconfig
[14:11] <DemoOn> when i run sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda it give me http://pastebin.com/B4RPntgt error
[14:12] <fisix> aa:00:04:00:0a:04
[14:12] <spannerotoole> that's the only one there?
[14:12] <fisix> which isn't the one i assigned in my router
[14:12] <fisix> so liek... y change?!?!?
[14:12] <phoenixsampras> Help, how to use a JPEG map, to build a coordinate map system??
[14:12] <Deadglow> i don't have alsa.i've got everest but it only seems to show information about the on board card and not the emu card
[14:12] <spannerotoole> is it possible that you have added your wireless adapter in your router?
[14:12] <musi> hey everytime i login it asks me for appearance setting ,, how do i disable it
[14:12] <musi> ?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Deadglow: if you run: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh    it will create a red URL and show a LOT of information which may help
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> musi: is it at the login screen or after you log in?
[14:14] <spannerotoole> deadglow, you could also try sudo apt-get upgrade alsa
[14:14] <musi> its at the login screen, before i reach desktop
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> musi: does this look familiar: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13     ??
[14:14] <musi> actionparsnip
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> musi: run:   sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[14:15] <spannerotoole> fisix, it sounds like you are filtering by mac address
[14:15] <fisix> spannerotoole, no because once i unplug the ethernet c0rd and replug, it will assign the static ip since the ifconfig displays a diff mac address. wats going on...
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> musi: looks like you followed that but missed a step
[14:15] <jpvoip> Hello, im running ubuntu 10.10 and want to change some setting of my notebook touchpad, but when i go to system - preferences - mouse, i cant see touchpad.... "xinput list" i only can see "ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"..  but my touchpad is working... how do i edit some setting of my touchpad?
[14:15] <musi> hmmm...
[14:16] <MiteshShah> i have a problem i am installed ubuntu inside windows 7 but today i am unable to win 7 as well as ubuntu so any body give me some info how to restore my boot loader
[14:16] <spannerotoole> fisix, your mac address is fixed as it's built into the card
[14:16] <spannerotoole> miteshShah, is it 32bit win7?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: if you run:  sudo parted -l    do you see an NTFS partition?
[14:17] <MiteshShah> spannerotoole: yes
[14:17] <spannerotoole> are you aware of the 4gig file limit
[14:18] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip:  yes it shows
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: try:  sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[14:18] <spannerotoole> ubuntu runs as a file inside win7
[14:18] <cramejs> hi
[14:18] <spannerotoole> fisix, as you have two network interfaces, you need to allow both mac addresses into your router
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> spannerotoole: 4Gb file limit is in FAT32, it's nothing to do with 32bit-ness. 32bit will limit to 4Gb RAM, not filesize
[14:19] <cramejs> when i use vim in gnome-terminal and press an arrowkey it converts it to A/B/C/D. how can i fix it ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> spannerotoole: NTFS maximum filesize is 16Eb
[14:19] <spannerotoole> ActionParsnip, there may be a problem with ubuntu writing more  than 4gig on ntfs, since its in userspace
[14:19] <RetroReactive> Hi, I'm having trouble with the final stage of installation. Whenever I restart and select Ubuntu from the menu it has a black screen with a white rectangle that says I need to have 1600x1200@60hz for the video settings. I have double-checked these but I keep getting the error!
[14:20] <triunity> Heyy whats the room for the future release again?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: what video chip
[14:20] <jpvoip> Hello, im running ubuntu 10.10 and want to change some setting of my notebook touchpad, but when i go to system - preferences - mouse, i cant see touchpad.... "xinput list" i only can see "ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"..  but my touchpad is working... how do i edit some setting of my touchpad?
[14:20] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip:  when i run update-grub it shaow /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> triunity: #ubuntu+1
[14:20] <bazhang> triunity, #ubuntu+1
[14:20] <triunity> Thanks!
[14:20] <RetroReactive> I don't know
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: is the system a laptop or branded pc?
[14:20] <RetroReactive> PC
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: is it branded or is it a home build?
[14:21] <RetroReactive> What do you mean?
[14:21] <fisix> lol but spannerotoole , i'm not dealing with the wireless. these mac addresses are both under eth0
[14:21] <tbl> hello
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: is it for instance a Dell or a Sony desktop system?
[14:21] <tbl> ?
[14:21] <RetroReactive> It's an Acer
[14:21] <fisix> spannerotoole, when i unplug/replug the cord, the mac address in eth0 changes to the one i've assigned a static ip in the router
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: ok, what model?
[14:22] <RetroReactive> Um, I don't know
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: look around the system, it will tell you
[14:22] <unforgiven512> Anyone here familiar with ACPI, APIC, and the boot process?
[14:22] <RetroReactive> I think it is an Acer Aspire?
[14:22] <spannerotoole> fisix, what happens if its plugged in and you do a cold boot
[14:22] <luigi> ciao
[14:23] <jpvoip> hello, how do i install touchpad driver?
[14:23] <erUSUL> !anyone | unforgiven512
[14:23] <luigi> o
[14:23] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip:  any idea?
[14:23] <luigi> im italian
[14:23] <unforgiven512> erUSUL: Alright
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: aspire doesn't narrow it down enough. We need the model
[14:23] <luigi> daiiiiiiiiii
[14:23] <spannerotoole> luigi, well done
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: ?
[14:23] <fisix> spannerotoole, it gets set to that aa:00:04:00:0a:04 address which i haven't assigned a static ip for
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: I'm no good with grub, that's all i know. Usually it just runs
[14:24] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip: when i am run update-grub it give me error like /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[14:24] <luigi> by
[14:24] <RetroReactive> Well, I have no idea. All I know is that I definitely have the screen resolution set to 1600x1200 with 60 hertz but I still get an error telling me to change it to those settings.
[14:24] <luigi> have you got a 3ds?
[14:25] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip: os-prober works fine but update-grub gives error
[14:25] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, are you using a livecd?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: niice
[14:25] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: yes i am using live cd
[14:25] <Deadglow> ok i tried lspci and got two entries about audio controllers:  00:lf.5 8086:24d5 [0401] and 03:02.0 1102:0008 [0401]
[14:25] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, you need to mount proc and dev see the !grub2 link
[14:25] <unforgiven512> I am having an issue on boot, it hangs for approximately 145 seconds, at about 1.57 seconds in on my dmesg log. I think it pertains to ACPI and APIC issues. Here is a dmesg log of a boot, that hangs, with ACPI APIC enabled in my bios http://goo.gl/ioygb -- here is a dmesg log with ACPI APIC disabled in my BIOS, but without the hang: http://goo.gl/ecXLI
[14:26] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: how to do
[14:26] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > MiteshShah
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: good catch dude
[14:26] <carroarmato0> I'm having a problem getting SQLite3 to work with PHP on Ubuntu server 10.10.  I installed  php5-sqlite and  sqlite3,   but  it doesn't get loaded in PHP achter I restart the webserver
[14:26] <unforgiven512> Disabling ACPI and/or APIC is hardly an ideal solution, to lose power management or reduce myself from 6 cores to 1 core available
[14:26] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, the "is dev mounted" gave it away...
[14:26] <DemoOn> can't install grub from live usb http://pastebin.com/JQUnT5M6
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: do you have latest BIOS?
[14:27] <DarkStar1> Hi. Has anyone managed to install oracle 10g XE on 10.10? I'm trying to access the database homepage
[14:27] <spannerotoole> have you checked your configs in /etc
[14:27] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: i am use empathy so i unable to see private msg can give me link  here so i can read how to do
[14:27] <ZykoticK9> !grub2
[14:27] <spannerotoole> fisix have you checked your configs in /etc
[14:28] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: I've tried 2 different BIOS revisions, I'm attempting to contact ASUS as we speak, the previous livechat rep left mid-conversation
[14:28] <DemoOn> ZykoticK9: yep, that's what im doing, still that error
[14:28] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, sidenote - IM clients make terrible IRC clients...
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: the latest BIOS may have an APCP / APIC fix
[14:28] <DarkStar1> spannerotoole: are you asking me or someone else?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: are there bugs logged for your kernel against the motherboard you have?
[14:29] <spannerotoole> fisix i'm asking
[14:29] <dustin> anyone know how to set up wifi on 9.04
[14:29] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: Check on LaunchPad?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: indeed
[14:29] <ZykoticK9> DemoOn, if you are using a USB to boot from sda is gonna be the USB device - sorry man, reinstalling grub from USB is not something I've personally done, a CD would be a LOT easier.
[14:29] <spannerotoole> fisix have you checked your configs in /etc
[14:29] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: i know but right now i am focusing restore my win 7 and ubuntu 10.10  so i use it which is available in live cd
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> dustin: jaunty isn't supported anymore in any way
[14:29] <Deadglow> ok i tried lspci and got two entries about audio controllers:  00:lf.5 8086:24d5 [0401] and 03:02.0 1102:0008 [0401]
[14:29] <jA_cOp_> While upgrading to 10.04 from 10.10 netbook edition, it asks for my keyboard model. I am using a Lenovo IdeaPad S10-2, which doesn't show up in the list. On Windows I use a 108-key Japanese keyboard driver, which works great. What should I do?
[14:30] <DemoOn> ZykoticK9: i've done it, but this is first time i get that error
[14:30] <fisix> spannerotoole, sorry, was trying to see what these configs are lol. ummm i have not. wat do u want me to check?
[14:30] <jA_cOp_> 11.04*
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jA_cOp_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <vaxinated> dustin: you probably have to enable your hardware drivers
[14:30] <dustin> so can you update the packages?
[14:30] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, you can use the LiveCD you just need to mount some stuff during the chroot
[14:30] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: I'll take a look
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jA_cOp_: natty isn't supported here until release
[14:30] <spannerotoole> deadglow, your card is not yet supported but will be in 1.0.15
[14:30] <jA_cOp_> ah, thanks ActionParsnip, will do
[14:30] <spannerotoole> fisix, have you set a static ip address?
[14:31] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: if u know the command then plz give me how to mount it useing chroot
[14:31] <unforgiven512> I've noticed other people have suggested disabling acpi/apic, either in BIOS or via kernel command line, but that is hardly a solution
[14:31] <Deadglow> ah ok thanks
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> dustin: there are ZERO repos up for it and no support here for Jaunty. Karmic also dies when Natty is released. I suggest you upgrade or simply reinstall at least Lucid
[14:31] <spannerotoole> Darkstar1, what's your issue?
[14:31] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, sorry man, see !grub2 link for info
[14:31] <fisix> spannerotoole, i've set the static ip address in my router, assigning the mac address which only comes up after unplug/replug
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> jA_cOp_: also skipping a release will most likely give you more issues. I hope you upgraded to maverick first for your own sake
[14:31] <dexeb> Need help. apt-get install xfonts-wqy keeps hanging at 20+ kB progress. I've tried changing repo to sg, tw, au & my, but that didn't help. Can someone try to install xfonts-wqy to see if this is affecting everyone or just me?
[14:32] <jA_cOp_> ActionParsnip, I am using maverick, upgrading from 10.10 (Maverick, right?) to 11.04
[14:32] <spannerotoole> but have you assigned your network card to have a static ip?
[14:32] <DenisMcMahon> I have a windows app running under wine that is only ip4 aware, but I want it to connect to an ip6 host. I have miredo running and toredo connection up, and have checked that I can ping6 / tracepath6 the host that I want to connect to. logic tells me that there's probably something fairly simple I can do to make localhost port x map to ip6 host y port z, but I can't find any obvious instructions. any ideas?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> jA_cOp_: i suggets you change your detail then, thats whatit sounds like
[14:32] <jA_cOp_> ok
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: works fine here
[14:33] <fisix> spannerotoole, i guess i could assign both mac addresses to the same ip (if the router lets me), but i'm just curious why it's even doing this in the first place...
[14:33] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: simply doesn't work for me. did apt-get clean & autoclean, but nothing works. any clue?
[14:33] <spannerotoole> you don't do that bit in your router
[14:33] <spannerotoole> you do it on your computer
[14:34] <My-Computer> i installed lucid on a flash drive but the updates failed should i have formated the flash drive a certin way or something or is there something wrong with the updates
[14:34] <spannerotoole> the file you need to edit is /etc/network/interfaces
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: i'm on natty but its still the same server
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: i use the gb server
[14:34] <ecolitan> where can i find a list of all packages versions for 11.04 ?
[14:35] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: i'm on lucid 10.04.2. not sure if that's why... lemme go try gb server
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9:  after bind /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys still get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/media/Soft/ubuntu/disks/root.disk'
[14:36] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, sorry, I have no idea why you're getting that...  best of luck.
[14:36] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: I've found http://goo.gl/ArwRq but it doesn't seem to be helpful. Should I append that bug, or file my own? It does (mostly) match the description
[14:36] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9:  i am installed ubuntu 10.10 inside win7 D drive using wubi and today iam unable to boot win 7 as well as ubuntu
[14:36] <ZykoticK9> MiteshShah, WUBI - sorry man, i don't touch that.  Good luck.
[14:36] <spannerotoole> fisix, PM'd you
[14:36] <RetroReactive> Can I please have some help with the question I asked earlier?
[14:36] <MiteshShah> ZykoticK9: thanks for your help
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: you could log your own, if the admins determine it's a duplicate they willmark it as such. You can start the ball rolling with:   ubuntu-bug acpi
[14:37] <unforgiven512> Wow, the ASUS technician just told me that Linux does not ACPI. Ugh.
[14:37] <triunity> Is there any way to specify locale when creating a user?
[14:37] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[14:37] <triunity> So that users home directory and firefox are in the correct langauge?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: what model sysyem is the Acer, or what video card are you using??
[14:38] <RetroReactive> I don't know, I've already told you that,
[14:38] <RetroReactive> And I don't see how that has anything to do with screen resolution?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: ok well try adding the bootoption: nomodeset   may help
[14:38] <RetroReactive> How do I do that?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: because if it's an nvidia chip you may need to blacklist the nouveau driver using boot options
[14:38] <erUSUL> !anyone | unforgiven512
[14:38] <erUSUL> ouch
[14:39] <erUSUL> unforgiven512: sorry
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: if you could have told me the model I could have easily websearched to see if it was an nvidia then advised the bootoption
[14:39] <Roasted_> Question - I set up a network printer with an Ubuntu system here at work, but when it prints the printer just heats up spinning as if it's "about" to do something but then stops. Any thoughts offhand
[14:39] <Roasted_> ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: which is why I was asking the model
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: make sense now??
[14:40] <erUSUL> Roasted_: check /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[14:40] <unforgiven512> erUSUL: It's okay.
[14:40] <RetroReactive> Yeah, and I believe I do run nvidia
[14:40] <RetroReactive> Sorry about that
[14:40] <fluantox_> f
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: then use another bootoption:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[14:40] <RetroReactive> okay
[14:41] <triunity> Hey im running ubuntu 10.10 and my powerbutton disappeared!  It shows part of my username where it should be :/
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: those 2 are great for troublesome nvidia cips, once you get the proprietary driver installed then all will be well
[14:41] <onox> how do I find out which ubuntu version someone is using?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> onox: lsb_release -c
[14:41] <onox> and graphically?
[14:41] <onox> (it's ubuntu user)
[14:41] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: Where would I file it? Here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty
[14:42] <unforgiven512> Well, actually, I should probably test a 10.04 or 10.10 live CD before I file, yes?
[14:42] <unforgiven512> I believe it may be a kernel issue on 2.6.38, so I should try that out
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: sounds good to me :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: natty isn't supported here
[14:45] <DarkStar1>   Anyone here installed oracle 10g XE on ubuntu and configured the http listener? I need help with mine
[14:45] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: I changed repo to gb server, successfully did "apt-get update", but "apt-get install xfonts-wqy" now hangs at [Waiting for headers]. After a while, it'll abort with error message: "Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main xfonts-wqy 0.9.9-3.2   Connection failed"
[14:46] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: Weird thing is that I can install any other packages except xfonts-wqy
[14:46] <unforgiven512> ActionParsnip: #ubuntu+1 correct?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: try grabbing the deb file from packages.ubuntu.com
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> unforgiven512: yes
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle10g   ?
[14:47] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: but if I install it using dpkg, it'll not be updated in the future when there's a new version in the repo, right?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: yes as the package is the same name, the updater will see a newer version an upgrade it
[14:48] <RetroReactive> Um, how do i add 'noveau.blacklist=1 & bootoption: nomodeset'?
[14:48] <RetroReactive> how/where
[14:49] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: I see. Let me go try dpkg -i the .deb now.
[14:49] <evelyette> hi, how can I enable pam_mkhomedir.so ... I know I can put it in the /etc/pam.d/login directly, ... but I'm looking for a package that can do this for me ?
[14:49] <alienmindtrick> how do i get rid of the top panel in natty...or more correctly, how can i make it autohide?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> alienmindtrick: ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:51] <alienmindtrick> ActionParsnip:  thanks!
[14:51] <ajin> alienmindtrick: #ubuntu+1, please
[14:51] <ajin> that's not really a question
[14:51] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: thanks but I followed that and it doesn't help with my problem
[14:52] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I changed my mind, I want Maverick instead of Lucid. How can I update? I've seen it there before, but I don't remember it.
[14:52] <erUSUL> !upgrade | nyuszika7h
[14:53] <nyuszika7h> erUSUL: Yes, but updating from LTS to non-LTS is a bit different...
[14:53] <BlouBlou> nyuszika7h: it isn't
[14:54] <erUSUL> nyuszika7h: not at all. the only difference is that you have to enable normal ( no lts ) upgrades  in system>admin..>software sources||updates tab
[14:54] <nyuszika7h> BlouBlou: really?
[14:54] <BlouBlou> nyuszika7h: go to software-souces, updates, and change there the last option
[14:54] <nyuszika7h> erUSUL: BlouBlou: thanks
[14:54] <RetroReactive> ActionParsnip: About the 'noveau.blacklist=1' thing you told me about, where do I put that?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:56] <mynameisdeleted> is ubuntu significatnly more comercial than debian?
[14:56] <RetroReactive> I didn't install mine using a disc...
[14:56] <erUSUL> mynameisdeleted: many will say so.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> RetroReactive: doesn't matter, its the same difference
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> mynameisdeleted: define "commercial"
[14:56] <mynameisdeleted> what are the primary arguments for that?
[14:56] <DaveIngram> mynameisdeleted: I would say more "consumer" than "commercial"
[14:57] <mynameisdeleted> other than the comercial repository option  is ubuntu more comercial?
[14:57] <erUSUL> mynameisdeleted: canonical is a for profit bussiness for instance
[14:58] <mynameisdeleted> and ubuntu doesnt list other ubuntu support companies equally
[14:58] <vaxinated> mynameisdeleted: why do you care how commercial ubuntu is?
[14:58] <mynameisdeleted> a lot of open source developers dont like putting free code towards comercial profit without getting pai
[14:58] <RetroReactive> But I never got that start-up screen
[14:58] <mynameisdeleted> paid
[14:59] <mynameisdeleted> thats why no one makes redhat packages anymore
[14:59] <mynameisdeleted> or fedora since thats used to suppot redhat
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> mynameisdeleted: i think you'llfind redhat gets a lot of love
[14:59] <mynameisdeleted> I personally wouldnt because people who install redhat either dont get updates or pay for them for the most part
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> mynameisdeleted: specially wit certified servers and a few printer makers will make rpm drivers but not deb
[14:59] <dustin> what about red hat?
[15:00] <vampirekiller> who cares?
[15:00] <mynameisdeleted> I think what would work better is any redhat package contributor has a right of first serv on tech support for their packages
[15:00] <vampirekiller> I mean who cares.
[15:00] <mynameisdeleted> and to charge for paid support
[15:01] <mynameisdeleted> you write package x for redhat and maintain it... or for fedora
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> mynameisdeleted: you do know this is a support channel ONLY..
[15:01] <N3> urgent help needed
[15:01] <mynameisdeleted> you have first dibs on charging comercial support for that package
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> N3: sup?
[15:01] <Pumpkin-> this is about ten miles offtopic
[15:01] <N3> upgrade to 11.04
[15:01] <N3> everything is fine except
[15:01] <N3> I can access the window controls
[15:01] <jpds> N3: → #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <N3> like there is not x
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> N3: natty is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[15:01] <N3> or minimize
[15:01] <N3> ok
[15:01] <FloodBot1> N3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:02] <rodrigo_imbika> someone from Brazil?
[15:02] <erUSUL> !br | rodrigo_imbika
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> mynameisdeleted: the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic will be glad to discuss it, this is support only
[15:02] <Ginbuntu> some one helps me. I am having problem viewing some website. it seems Firefox failed to download the css file. look at this screenshot http://img155.imageshack.us/i/screenshotczg.png/
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Ginbuntu: does it happen for all users?
[15:03] <emeraldfox> Test
[15:03] <Ginbuntu> ActionParsnip, I haven't tried  that yet
[15:03] <emeraldfox> Anyone availible? :)
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Ginbuntu: make another one and test so you can see if its settings based or app based
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> emeraldfox: many are
[15:04] <emeraldfox> Well i have some issues with dual screen setup :)
[15:04] <Zahrada> Why would anyone want to watch "Goede tijden, slechte tijden"? :P
[15:04] <emeraldfox> Anyone that can help? :)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> emeraldfox: give some detailsand if people know, they will reply
[15:04] <emeraldfox> Rgr!
[15:04] <emeraldfox> Still very fresh to ubuntu so bear with me
[15:05] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: It's very interesting. I tried downloading xfonts-wqy_0.9.9-3.2_all.deb from 10 different mirrors across the globe and they all hang after downloading 15 to 28kb of data. I've never encountered anything like this before. It behaves as if something is blocking the data transfer after it detected certain data patterns in the xfonts-wqy file... Any more tips?
[15:05] <emeraldfox> I have an Nvidia card and i have managed to set it up so i use 2 screens with Seperate X screen configuration
[15:05] <N3> there not helping in #ubuntu+1, at all
[15:05] <N3> nvm
[15:05] <emeraldfox> But i would love to know how i can be able to actually move programs and windows from screen to screen
[15:06] <Necrosporus> Which operating system does Shuttleworth use?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: not sure, I'll try make you a dropbox link :)
[15:06] <bazhang> !ot | Necrosporus
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Necrosporus: thats offtopic here
[15:06] <BlouBlou> Necrosporus: that't irrelevant
[15:07] <vaxinated> emeraldfox: you don't want "separate X screen configurations".  you want one.
[15:07] <emeraldfox> Do you mean Twinview?
[15:07] <emeraldfox> Cause i tried that
[15:07] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: Thanks. You may want to gzip it in case it's really the file contents causing the problem.
[15:07] <emeraldfox> And moving the mouse from one screen to another took alot of time ,and i still couldnt move programs
[15:08] <Necrosporus> OK, thanks
[15:09] <nicofs> i want to copy all files of the type *.type from /foo and it's subdirectories to /bar - how can i do that?
[15:09] <RetroReactive> Okay: Can you please tell me how I add the code to the boot option thing. I have tried pressing e for a command line and entering the code there but nothing happens. And can I please have a real answer not put this thing here.
[15:09] <emeraldfox> Anyone that could help me out? :) A private conversation would be nice if anyone could be asked :>
[15:09] <AlecTaylor> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 x86, and have just downloaded a package from debian.org. How do I download all of its dependencies automatically?
[15:10] <TimR> AlecTaylor, I think GDebi will take care of that for you
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Images/xfonts-wqy_0.9.9-3.2_all.deb.gz
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> dexeb: let me know when you have it
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !debian | AlecTaylor:
[15:11] <TimR> AlecTaylor, assuming, of course, that the deps are available in the ubuntu repos
[15:11] <dustin> metacity|dustin
[15:11] <AlecTaylor> TimR: I get an error when I double click on it: "Dependency is not satisfiable: libgcrypt 11 (>= 1.4.6)"
[15:11] <dustin> dumb bot ...
[15:11] <Necrosporus> Well, other question then. My netbook, has volume +/- hardware keys, separate from the main keyboard. If I touch it, ubuntu seem to react, but volume controls doesn't disappear when I release that and also X start to work incorretly, so I have to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and C-A-F8 then to get rid of that things.
[15:11] <emeraldfox> I guess I will come back later :)
[15:11] <dustin> metacity|dustin
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: if you run: sudo apt-get -f install   it will pull them down assuming they are available, mixing debs from Debian is not smart,  advised or supported
[15:11] <phoenixsampras> help, Mic audio recording aint working!!!! BUG???
[15:12] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <jpstrikesback> is someone in the sudoers group essentially equivalent to a root user as far as what they can do?
[15:12] <jpstrikesback> sorry if that's an overly silly question
[15:12] <ajin> AlecTaylor: try man apt-get
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> jpstrikesback: its the 'admin' group and they will get all the power of root if they prefix with sudo or gksudo
[15:13] <jpstrikesback> ok
[15:13] <ajin> man is your friend
[15:13] <AlecTaylor> ActionParsnip: I get an error "unable to locate package...\n Couldn't find any pacakc by regex...\n"
[15:13] <jpstrikesback> so then if a sudo user could get into the root account that wouldn't be the biggest deal?
[15:13] <audhi> linux mint+1
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: that's why its not supported. It makes a mess
[15:13] <dexeb> ActionParsnip: It works! D/L ok, dpkg -i ok. Thanks so much for all your efforts! Problem solved but root cause still unknown. I'll hate it if it's my ISP playing punk behind the scene... :) Thanks again, ActionParsnip.
[15:13] <nailora> i am looking for an onscreen keyboard where i can click buttons with the mouse. i.e. not cellwriter. any ideas?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> audhi: mint is offtopic here
[15:14] <audhi> ok actionparsnip
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> nailora: onboard
[15:15] <jpstrikesback> ActionParsnip: thanks i guess my question above is moot then?
[15:15] <frank__> Is this the channel to get help with the Ubuntu 11 alpha?
[15:16] <engammalsko2> Hi, can I somehow lock the mouse only?
[15:16] <Pici> frank__: No, please use #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:16] <engammalsko2> and then need to press a certain command or type password.
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jpstrikesback: how do you mean?
[15:16] <frank__> Is this the support channel for Ubuntu 11?
[15:16] <Pici> frank__: No, please use #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jpstrikesback: youhave added the user to the admin group so has full reign over the OS
[15:17] <frank__> Thanks.
[15:17] <BlouBlou> engammalsko2: yes, 'secondary click on a pannel >> add to pannel >> find there tsomething like "capture mouse"'
[15:17] <engammalsko2> no
[15:17] <Chris___> I can't get zsh to autostart as my default shell, even after doing "chsh"
[15:17] <engammalsko2> Or, can I edit lock mouse settings?
[15:17] <engammalsko2> Because it unlocks everytime I click.
[15:17] <jrib> Chris___: well did chsh change your shell to zsh?
[15:17] <Chris___> it says it did
[15:18] <jrib> Chris___: what does this return: getent passwd $USER
[15:18] <engammalsko2> I unlock the mouse by mistake all the time.
[15:18] <jpstrikesback> ActionParsnip: I found a way for a user in the sudoers to switch to root without any auth
[15:18] <Gnea> Chris___: did you remember to logout and login again?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> jpstrikesback: it drastically reduces system security if you do
[15:18] <Chris___> jrib: goose:x:1000:1000:goose,,,:/home/goose:/usr/bin/zsh
[15:18] <Chris___> Gnea: yes
[15:18] <engammalsko2> sorry
[15:19] <engammalsko2> I didn't see the mouse settings for unlocking.
[15:19] <nailora> ActionParsnip: thx. onboard looks a bit ... plain ... but it is ok
[15:19] <BlouBlou> engammalsko2: Why would you want it? Because I don't see the sense to block the mouse and a need to put a password to unlock it. Instead of it, set up the screen saver and password, which is enabled by default
[15:19] <jpstrikesback> ActionParsnip: yes, I agree, it seems like a bug/vulnerability, but it can't be too bad since a sudoer has admin rights anyways I just wondered if it needed reporting
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> nailora: there are alternatives, hunt around
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> jpstrikesback: if you feel it does then do so
[15:19] <jpstrikesback> :)
[15:19] <jpstrikesback> k
[15:19] <jpstrikesback> cheers
[15:20] <engammalsko2> BlouBlou: I'm playing keyboard only games in windowed mode
[15:20] <jrib> Chris___: how did you logout and back in?
[15:20] <engammalsko2> but I got it to work :) Thanks.
[15:20] <dave65> anyone use transmission for p2p here?
[15:20] <Chris___> jrib: I typed "logout" (did ctrl+d actually) and it closed my terminal window, then I opened a new one.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> dave65: I use it for torrents, yes
[15:20] <BlouBlou> engammalsko2: You're welcome
[15:20] <jrib> Chris___: that's not logging out
[15:20] <jrib> Chris___: that's closing a terminal window :/
[15:20] <dave65> ActionParsnip: whats a good blocklist address?
[15:21] <Chris___> jrib: that was sufficient enough to set zsh as my default shell on debian, though
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> dave65: I don't know what that is
[15:21] <dustin> dave65,  yes which one
[15:21] <Chris___> and since debian and ubuntu are basically the same thing...
[15:21] <jrib> Chris___: you need to log out and log back in
[15:21] <Pici> Chris___: New terminals in GNOME are typically not new login shells.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Chris___: why mention debian?
[15:21] <Chris___> very well, I'll go restart. thanks.
[15:22] <jrib> Chris___: no need to restart, just log...
[15:22] <dave65> dustin:  currently it says www.example.com/blocklist lol
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> dave65: what does it do?
[15:23] <dave65> just comes up with no rules, which I guess is bad for privacy
[15:23] <Roasted_> Is there a way in terminal to see a listing of what printers (and their settings) are connected to an Ubuntu server over ssh?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> dave65: http://osxdaily.com/2010/11/17/enable-ip-blocking-when-downloading-torrents-in-transmission/
[15:24] <dustin> dave65, what was you doing??
[15:25] <dave65> dustin: just installing the software to get some old films but like my privacy, is peerblock available for Linux?
[15:25] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <bhavesh> If I download ubuntu 11.04 beta now and if I want to upgrade to stable version at 28th April will I have to download the whole ubutnu again?
[15:25] <bhavesh> or just some megs?
[15:25] <Pici> !final | bhavesh no
[15:25] <jpds> bhavesh: No, just some megs.
[15:25] <dave65> bhavesh: no
[15:25] <bhavesh> ok ty :D
[15:27] <riddick> I just installed a new OS on an entirely virtual computer.  and they say linux isn't awesome.
[15:27] <jrib> riddick: no one says that :/
[15:27] <fisix> why does eth0 get a different mac address when i unplug/replug the ethernet cord?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> riddick: you can install many OSes in a virtualized environment
[15:27] <dustin> yes they do i got the vid here
[15:28] <dustin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZjxYE-nZZU
[15:28] <riddick> true...  true...
[15:29] <dustin> tell me what you think
[15:29] <erUSUL> fisix: huh? a different ip? MAC adresses are attached to the hardware and shouldn't change
[15:30] <dave65> http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/level1.gz  gave me over 220k rules nice :)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> !away > herton_lunch
[15:30] <fisix> erUSUL, i know. but it does. from  aa:00:04:00:0a:04  to 00:16:d4:e1:bd:56
[15:31] <fisix> erUSUL, trying to set up a static ip but i only have one of those forwarded
[15:31] <casts> erUSUL: though in linux you can set them to an arbitrary value [with ifconfig hw ether MAC if you're interested]
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> dave65: I've ran my torrent server for years and not used anything like that, never had an issue
[15:31] <erUSUL> casts: i know; thanks
[15:32] <erUSUL> fisix: maybe "dmesg" gives some hints on how and why it is happenning ?
[15:32] <fisix> erUSUL, not to me.. haha
[15:34] <leftist> good morning. i have a question. how does one go about installing on a dedicated server in the cloud? say i purchase a dedicated server, how would i install my build onto it? they usually come populated with your chosen os.  where can i learn how this is done remotely?
[15:34] <Gurkenglas> little oc question:
[15:34] <erUSUL> fisix: do an unplug plug cycle  and do « dmesg | tail -n30 » paste that in a pastebin
[15:34] <Gurkenglas> *ot
[15:34] <erUSUL> !paste | fisix
[15:34] <Pici> Gurkenglas: Try #ubuntu-offtopic for OT
[15:34] <Gurkenglas> if i want to say "the server of Gurkenglas"
[15:35] <jrib> leftist: probably a question you should ask who you buy the dedicated server from :)
[15:35] <meganerd> leftist: this is usually vendor specific.  I would check their documentation.
[15:35] <Gurkenglas> Pici, i just tried the fullest channel ^^
[15:35] <leftist> yeah i am starting to see that is the situation. i can see $$$$$ adding up for them to do it.
[15:35] <meganerd> fisix: what kind of ethernet adapter?  PCI or USB, what make and model?
[15:35] <Gurkenglas> does it say "Gurkenglas's server" or "Gurkenglas' server" or sth? dont want to get the name false :o
[15:35] <leftist> so i would have to build it from the base server
[15:36] <fisix> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594494/
[15:36] <dustin> dave65,  yes
[15:36] <fisix> meganerd, PCI and not quite sure..
[15:37] <erUSUL> fisix: what about « tail -n30 /var/log/syslog » ?
[15:37] <tsimpson> Gurkenglas: ask in ##english then
[15:37] <meganerd> fisix: it is using the TG3 driver so my guess is it is a broadcomm on your MB
[15:37] <fisix> erUSUL, meganerd translating the mac addresses shows Vendor = 	Digital Equipment Corporation, but 	Compal Communications after unplug/replug
[15:38] <dustin> dave65, hey are you still there?  yes there is peer bocking
[15:38] <doodle> hello :)
[15:38] <martin_> How do I make my keyring autologin or remove the keyring completely
[15:39] <meganerd> fisix: how are you getting an IP?  DHCP or static?  Is there some script that is setting this up?  You can specify arbitrary MAC addresses, but by default the one burned into the NICs ROM is the one used.
[15:39] <fisix> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594497/
[15:39] <jrib> martin_: if you use the same password as your login your keyring should be automatically unlocked
[15:39] <martin_> I use the same password. But it still requires me to login.
[15:39] <meganerd> fisix: dhcp it is
[15:40] <fisix> meganerd, DHCP. but the reason why i'm doing this is because i want a static ip. i've assigned a static ip to the latter mac address. don't know if there's a script that's setting this up..
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> martin_: set a blank password and you won't be bothered
[15:40] <martin_> How do I set that?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> martin_: go find out
[15:41] <erUSUL> fisix: what about /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ? what does the file says?
[15:41] <bhavesh> if I do update-manager -d will it upgrade to beta 2?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: yes
[15:41] <jrib> martin_: are you using autologin for your account in gdm then?
[15:41] <bhavesh> ok
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: it will need sudo too
[15:41] <meganerd> fisix: how are you doing this?  usually I set the IP based on the device, like eth0
[15:41] <martin_> yes
[15:41] <meganerd> fisix: also, what is in "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[15:41] <dustin> meganerd,  are you lokin for your mac?
[15:42] <fisix> meganerd, i used the router to assign a static ip to the mac address
[15:42] <jrib> martin_: yes, well you need to type the password at some point :)  You can make the password for your keyring blank but I wouldn't recommend it.  I would just login with password
[15:42] <fisix> erUSUL, meganerd http://paste.ubuntu.com/594500/
[15:42] <martin_> I would prefer ablank password
[15:43] <jrib> martin_: Applications → Accessories → Passwords and Encryption Keys, have at it...
[15:43] <jrib> !who | martin_
[15:43] <erUSUL> fisix: ATTR{address}=="00:16:d4:e1:bd:56" <<< that looks like the ral adress....
[15:43] <martin_> ok thanks
[15:43] <erUSUL> fisix: appears in the syslog too
[15:43] <meganerd> fisix: OK, that is not really a static IP, and 00:16:d4:e1:bd:56 should be your MAC
[15:43] <fisix> erUSUL, right. that's the one ive assigned to the static ip
[15:43] <dustin> yeah dont leave you password or keyring .. or i might need to hack you
[15:43] <erUSUL> fisix: dunno where the other comes from
[15:43] <dustin> lol
[15:43] <dustin> jk
[15:43] <meganerd> wow, I am lagging behind
[15:43] <DenisMcMahon> how do i use ip6tables to set up a port forward so that packets received on 4242 on the localhost are sent to port x on host y where y is an ip6 address?
[15:44] <erUSUL> fisix: maybe is nteworkmanager? what is the eth0 conf in NM ?
[15:44] <meganerd> fisix: if you unplug and plug the ethernet in, does the udev MAC change ?
[15:44] <erUSUL> DenisMcMahon: #netfilter
[15:44] <fisix> erUSUL, meganerd that's the ip that shows up in ifconfig after unplug/replug. but booting with ethernet cord in will give an ifconfig mac of aa:00:04:00:0a:04
[15:44] <Raikia> So....my ubuntu box wouldn't boot up and I forced a fsck.  It looked like it checked the disk (really quickly though) and then booted up.  Did it actually do anything?
[15:45] <dustin> mac doesnt change
[15:45] <meganerd> fisix: what does "ip addr" list as your MAC?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Raikia: check in /var/log/fsck/
[15:45] <meganerd> dustin: the MAC can be whatever you want it to be
[15:45] <fisix> meganerd, right now, 00:16:d4:e1:bd:56
[15:46] <Raikia> erUSUL: In there, there are files "checkfs" and "checkroot", both of which say "(Nothing has been logged yet)"
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: what happens when you boot?
[15:47] <Raikia> it just hangs after the "Checking battery state....[OK]" (its a desktop).  If I cfdisk, it says there is an error in my boot partition
[15:48] <pcpower> Raikia: if you have raid, there might be a battery for that
[15:48] <Raikia> The console boots work (like, ALT+F5, etc) , but the gui doesn't
[15:48] <Raikia> There is no raid
[15:48] <mads-> Hi. Let's say I have a service installed, like apache, is there any way I can limit the amount of download/upload it can use ?
[15:48] <Raikia> Anyway, I forced fsck, and it booted correctly...but I'm afraid that it won't boot again after i restart
[15:49] <pcpower> mads-: maybe with a special iptables module
[15:49] <ZykoticK9> Raikia, my system hangs after the "Checking battery state" as well, but I believe that with Debian and not Ubuntu... actually I'm not sure what distro does that -- I didn't find a solution, hope you have better luck.
[15:49] <pcpower> or tc class/queues etc.
[15:49] <fisix> meganerd, erUSUL wat do?
[15:49] <meganerd> dustin: you can specify the MAC address that the system presents to the world.  THe MAC burned into the ROM of the NIC stays the same, but you don't have to actually use it.
[15:50] <Raikia> Well....its never done this before until today :-//
[15:50] <meganerd> fisix: I might not have read far enough back, but how are you detecting a new MAC?
[15:50] <safetynet> What is shell to see what version Ubuntu you are running?
[15:50] <QuiSE> hi
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> safetynet, "lsb_release -a"
[15:50] <meganerd> fisix: if you unplug and the plug the ethernet cable back in, does the MAC in the udev rules change?
[15:51] <safetynet> ZykoticK9, Thanks much friend!
[15:51] <hexabit> exit
[15:51] <Raikia> linux-headers-2.6.35-27...although I just now updated to 28 (after the one successful boot)
[15:51] <meganerd> safetynet: cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:51] <fisix> meganerd, when i boot with the ethernet cord plugged in, i'll get aa:00:04:00:0a:04. unplugging/replugging will give 00:16:d4:e1:bd:56
[15:51] <Raikia> When the boot failed, I had not updated anything
[15:51] <QuiSE> I have a problem with mirroring my laptop disp. into my desktop LCD monitor over HDMI. (I can see the Ubuntu Splash at start, then screen lose signal when Ubuntu is loaded)
[15:51] <meganerd> fisix: OK, where does it list that MAC address?
[15:51] <fisix> meganerd, if i unplug/replug now, i'm sure it'd give the latter
[15:51] <fisix> meganerd, ifconfig
[15:52] <dustin> meganerd, really??  so if i was having trouble with mediacom /quest  seting yp then would that be it?
[15:52] <meganerd> fisix: use ip config
[15:52] <fisix> meganerd, what's ip config
[15:52] <QuiSE> would be nice to fix this asap because my neck is going to break anyday now from looking down at the laptop screen .. !
[15:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  did you check to make sure you have the required drivers?
[15:53] <fisix> meganerd, fisix@LAPCOMP:~$ ip config
[15:53] <fisix> Object "config" is unknown, try "ip help".
[15:53] <meganerd> fisix: sorry, meant ip addr
[15:53] <dustin> fisix,  is a command set for you ip
[15:53] <p0op-> i have a revo nettop, i want to install ubuntu on to it but i dont have an external drive or bootable usb. It is running Linpus linux at the mo, what are my options?
[15:53] <dustin> try ip
[15:53] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: im not a advanced User. How do I see if I have the correct drivers?
[15:53] <safetynet> meganerd, Thanks much as well, like both 1st post gives more info, 2cnd clean cut to the bone!
[15:53] <fisix> dustin, meganerd oh lol. kk ip addr works and gives me the latter ip
[15:53] <meganerd> fisix: "ip addr" will list devices, their states, and their address (ipv4 and ipv6 if used/available
[15:54] <fisix> meganerd, i mean the latter mac address which i've assigned to the static ip
[15:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  which version of ubuntu?  10.04?  10.10?
[15:54] <ubuntu> alright.. so after installing ubuntu 10.10 (it was a dual-boot with win 7) i decided to get rid of windows. now my boot-up process hangs before it lists the OS's to go into.. i don't know if grub was entirely erased, or is glitching without win 7 there
[15:54] <fisix> meganerd, 00:16:d4:e1:bd:56 once again
[15:54] <ubuntu> how do i repair grub? ;_; lol
[15:54] <dustin> all right   we are all learning
[15:54] <QuiSE> *.04. Used 10.10 before but that "left mouse button bug really made me fed up )
[15:54] <dustin> :)
[15:54] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > ubuntu
[15:55] <p0op-> df -h
[15:55] <ubuntu> lol
[15:55] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: *.04. Used 10.10 before but that "left mouse button bug really made me fed up )
[15:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[15:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  i saw
[15:55] <ubuntu> oh hey, that's my current username.. ok
[15:55] <ubuntu> woops ^^;
[15:55] <ubuntu> thanks
[15:55] <dustin> meganerd,  you are just one smart AND fast typer
[15:56] <mordof> there.. lol
[15:56] <meganerd> dustin: not as fast and smart as I would like
[15:57] <dustin> and moddest... are we .. i say very
[15:57] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: it say ATI/AMD drivers FGLRX graphic drivers. Im using a ATI 5870
[15:57] <barberan> hi. I've got laptop, and console on my ubuntu. I've no GUI. So, how do I connect to wi-fi? ssid: netwrk, WPA2-PSK pass 'password'. PLease
[15:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  those drivers are fine, are they installed?>
[15:58] <ravana> hi, I'm trying to mount my usb stick via terminal.But when I mount it, I get a warning that says:   "/mnt/usb seems to be mounted read-only." And, I can't write anything to it. even with sudo
[15:58] <ravana> can anybody help me please?
[15:58] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: running from USB with persistent 4GB
[15:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  why the heck are you running from USB with persistent?
[15:58] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  the LiveCD doesn't always contain the ATI hardware drivers :/  if it does, you're lucky
[15:59] <dustin> lol
[15:59] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: long story ... ubuntu dont want to auto install beside my win7. I dont get the option at the install
[15:59] <erUSUL> ravana: what command do you use to mount it?
[15:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  *cough*manual config*cough*
[15:59] <ravana>  erUSUL: "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb"
[15:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  in any case
[15:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  System > Preferences > Monitors
[16:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  if it says that you should use the ATI config screen, I can't help you with that, I use an nVidia card :/
[16:00] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: and when I shrink and make space I cant format the HDD without making it dynamic.
[16:00] <erUSUL> ravana: try with « udisks --mount /dev/sdb1 »
[16:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  uh... are you running it within windows?
[16:00] <mordof> ZykoticK9: putting grub on a different hard drive will be ok?
[16:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  or are you running the disk on system boot?
[16:00] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix:  no no
[16:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/disk/USB/
[16:00] <QuiSE> the booting from usb
[16:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  monitor config is in the location I told you: System > Preferences > Monitors
[16:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  or in the ATI config system
[16:01] <ZykoticK9> mordof, ? (i'm unsure of context) but that can work, but that different HD would always have to be present...
[16:01] <meganerd> barberan: "wpa_passphrase netwrk pasword > wpa.conf"
[16:02] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix:  I can detect another screen. but nothingh appens when I try to mirror it.
[16:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  did you hit "Apply"?
[16:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  you have to apply and save the settings before it takes :/
[16:02] <QuiSE> the TheEvilPhoenix y
[16:02] <mordof> ZykoticK9: right. it is, i have 4 hard drives. i had windows on one before, and ubuntu on a larger one with split portions
[16:02] <meganerd> barberan: then the next step depends on your wireless device, what type is it, and what is the interface name (eg.eth1, wlan0, etc.)
[16:02] <mordof> ZykoticK9: so my ubuntu is on /dev/sdb
[16:02] <ZykoticK9> barberan, meganerd's command would overright (delete) whatever is in wpa.conf right now!  (not sure if that is ok or not)
[16:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  huh, then i'm not sure, there're people here more smart than I when it comes to Ubuntu, sorry I couldn't be of more help (i tried :/)
[16:03] <MethedMan> hi all.  this is only my second time on irc.  how do i login with my nickname
[16:03] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i guess it finished alright, i'll reboot and give it a try. thanks for the assistance
[16:03] <meganerd> ZykoticK9: it would actually create a wpa.conf file in his home directory, no such file actually exists
[16:03] <ravana> erUSUL: thanks for the suggestion. I tried with it. but I get a warning saying something like: couldn't connect to system bus!
[16:03] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: Strange thing is that the ubuntu splash shows on the screen. then the screen lose signal when ubuntu is loaded and starts X
[16:03] <ZykoticK9> meganerd, all good then :)
[16:03] <erUSUL> ravana: is server version?
[16:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> QuiSE:  that's very interesting
[16:04] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix: thanks for your help :) I will keep looking
[16:04]  * ZykoticK9 hopes mordof ran update-grub2 after installing it to sda...
[16:04] <meganerd> ZykoticK9: barberan I actually create a foleder that I store a bunch of my commonly accessed APs in, I also name them wpa_<essid>.conf, but the naming is totally arbitrary
[16:04] <fisix> meganerd, given up on my case?
[16:04] <ravana> erUSUL: what do you mean?
[16:04] <meganerd> fisix: doing some googling, it does not make sense to me yet
[16:04] <QuiSE> TheEvilPhoenix:  perhaps I will try download the new ATI drivers see if it works
[16:05] <dustin> QuiSE,  ubuntu wont atuo install ? did you try thr wubi installer  with iso on win side ?
[16:05] <tuhin> how do i reenable hibernate and suspend in ubuntu10.10 ? those options r gone after i installed "laptop mode tools"
[16:05] <erUSUL> ravana: if you are running the server version of ubuntu. or normal ( gnome ) one
[16:05] <fisix> meganerd, yeah me too and me neither
[16:05] <meganerd> fisix: whereas the barberan question I know backwards and forwards
[16:05] <ravana> erUSUL: normal xfce. sorry.
[16:05] <QuiSE> dustin: no it didnt want to autoinstall when I tried form USB
[16:06] <meganerd> barberan: what I do next is "sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -i wlan0 -c ./wpa.conf"
[16:06] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! My Q is abotu the beta2, 11.04 so if I am in the wrong channel I apologize.  Trying to install it under vmware (win7) but UNITY was disabled the first time I installed it and I am wondering if there is anyways to make it active? (it warned about hardware so does it mean that I should have a netbook necessarily or there is s.th. else I am missing) thanks
[16:06] <fisix> lol meganerd wats the barberan q?
[16:06] <erUSUL> ravana: ahh ok. not sure if xubuntu supports udisks or not...
[16:06] <meganerd> barberan: then you should see some messages, it should be obvious if everything is ok or not.  If it is ok, switch to another console and do "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[16:07] <PeterNL> What is the ubuntu equivalent for /etc/sysconfig/route-eth0 ?
[16:07] <ravana> erUSUL: I see. can't I get it working with mount command?
[16:07] <meganerd> fisix: a usename in here, he asked how to connect to wpa from the CLI.  I do this sort of thing pretty much every day.
[16:07] <erUSUL> ravana: what filesystem does the usb drive use?
[16:07] <ravana> erUSUL: sadly, ntfs!
[16:08] <fisix> meganerd, ohhh lol. should be googleable >__>. this mac address duality on the other hand...
[16:08] <ravana> only issue is it get loaded as a read-only system. I can read the content.
[16:08] <meganerd> PeterNL: I have no idea what /etc/sysconfig/route-eth0 is, but the server version of ubuntu should use /etc/network/interfaces, the dekstop editions are managed by network manager
[16:08] <dustin> QuiSE, whats your specs hard and soft .. and os tryin to install
[16:09] <footetraffic> I just installed LAMP and would like to have full permission access to my www folder, can someone point me in the right direction please?
[16:09] <QuiSE> dustin: I dont think I can shrink and make space on my HDDS, there are alot of free space. but I cant format the unallocated space without making it a dynamik disk.
[16:09] <mordof> ZykoticK9: problem... that didn't work
[16:09] <mordof> when my computer boots up, it hangs at the spot where it looks for an OS
[16:10] <mordof> nothing shows up, no fail or no grub
[16:10] <g0rg0d> footetraffic ty=ry open as admin and then change the permissions for your user name
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> mordof, did grub show up?  Did you run "sudo update-grub2" after installing grub?
[16:10] <mordof> the partition that used to hold the MBR is currently just empty
[16:10] <QuiSE> dustin: its a MSI GX660R Gaming laptop. running win7 on 2x500GB raid0 disks
[16:10] <mordof> ZykoticK9: no it didn't say to, it went on to something else
[16:10] <g0rg0d> or you can use chmod
[16:10] <Picacodigos> hi, i've installed ubuntu netbook edition and i need some helpers about configuring unity and some programs
[16:10] <vaxinated> ravana: can you create any files on the usb stick?
[16:11] <ZykoticK9> mordof, are you the one using USB to try to install grub?
[16:11] <mordof> ZykoticK9: no
[16:11] <ZykoticK9> mordof, ok
[16:11] <mordof> i'm on a live CD
[16:11] <ravana> vaxinated: can't create any directories.
[16:11] <mordof> but my partitions are all weird now after all the formatting and whatnot that i've done
[16:11] <mordof> i think it's getting confused
[16:11] <ravana> vaxinated: didnt check with a file though. think it's the same!
[16:11] <MethedMan> could someone tell me how do i sign in
[16:11] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i've rebooted into the live CD, so this may be why - but sudo update-grub2 returns an error :\
[16:11] <ZykoticK9> mordof, after installing grub i think you need to actually have grub scan where there bootable options are, thus the "sudo update-grub2" is probably required
[16:12] <mordof> ZykoticK9:  caanot find a device for /
[16:12] <mordof> ZykoticK9: and yes the drive is mounted
[16:12] <ZykoticK9> mordof, you need to do the whole chroot thing for that to work.
[16:12] <vaxinated> try "touch /mnt/usb/testfile"
[16:12] <ZykoticK9> mordof, what is the error?
[16:12] <mordof> ZykoticK9: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[16:12] <erUSUL> ravana: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[16:12] <meganerd> fisix: so to be clear, you get a different MAC address when you boot, but if unplug and plug in the ethernet, you get the mac address we found in the udev rules?
[16:13] <ZykoticK9> mordof, you need to chroot properly - see the link in !grub2
[16:13] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > mordof
[16:13] <fisix> meganerd, correct. and continual unplugging/replugging will always give the latter mac address
[16:14] <Picacodigos> can someone help me?
[16:14] <meganerd> fisix: and before you unplug and plug in the first time, the udev rules have the MAC that you eventually get?
[16:14] <nitroxidus> hi.is there any way to start indexing of "files and folder lens" in  ubuntu 11.04
[16:14] <sirdustin> hi
[16:14] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i don't think my problem is listed in here.. really
[16:15] <ZykoticK9> mordof, read the part about chroot and mounting dev proc etc.
[16:15] <Pici> nitroxidus : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:15] <nitroxidus> i have beta 2
[16:15] <vencent> hello
[16:15] <nitroxidus> ok
[16:15] <nitroxidus> thanks
[16:15] <meganerd> fisix: and there is nothing in network manager when you edit the wired connection under cloned mac address?
[16:16] <lachfalte> cheers! how's the beta doing?
[16:16] <sirdustin> im on the same server!!! MethedMan3
[16:16] <raido> MethedMan: do you have  aregistered nick and password already
[16:16] <sirdustin> im on the same server!!! MethedMan
[16:16] <mordof> ZykoticK9: but all this seems to apply to -reinstalling- grub. that's not what i'm doing
[16:16] <ravana> erUSUL: now we are ticking. this doesn't know what ntfs-3g file system is!
[16:16] <MethedMan> raido: yes
[16:16] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i'm installing it in a different location
[16:16] <ravana> looking for how to install it
[16:16] <erUSUL> ravana: not installed?
[16:16] <MethedMan> i registerd about 8 hours ago
[16:16] <erUSUL> !find ntfs-3g
[16:17] <fisix> meganerd, not gonna lie, i don't know about this "network manager"
[16:17] <erUSUL> ravana: install  ntfs-3g
[16:17] <ZykoticK9> mordof, the error "is /dev mounted" tells me you are not chrooted properly, thus update-grub2 cannot work.
[16:17] <raido> MethedMan: so, you registered MethedMan ?
[16:17] <fisix> meganerd, i'm not editing anything (to my knowledge)...
[16:17] <MethedMan> raido: correct
[16:17] <jmknsd> what is the best way to get my /home/jmknsd/Downloads and video, etc. to point to directories on another hard disk, soft links?
[16:17] <meganerd> fisix: if you right click on the network applet, then click "Edit Connections"
[16:18] <home-alone> why i feel like ubuntu is less or more buggy as windows
[16:18] <raido> MethedMan: do "/msg nickserv identify <PASSWORD>"
[16:18] <fisix> meganerd, what's the network applet?
[16:18] <shadow74_> Hello every one
[16:18] <faraz> jrib: are you there?
[16:18] <fisix> meganerd, nvm, i'm there
[16:18] <ravana> erUSUL: great. installing. hopefully it'll be OK. thanks.
[16:18] <faraz> jrib: im the Guest blah blah
[16:18] <MethedMan> raido: thanks
[16:18] <pcpower> home-alone: I think worse :)
[16:18] <erUSUL> ravana: are you sure you have full xubuntu-desktop ? i am surprised it does not include ntfs-3g
[16:19] <mordof> ZykoticK9: alright
[16:19] <meganerd> fisix: click on WIred Connection, then click etid
[16:19] <raido> MethedMan: NO. P.S. don include the <>
[16:19] <meganerd> fisix: erm edit
[16:19] <faraz> um!
[16:19] <MethedMan> i logged in already
[16:19] <raido> MethedMan: cool
[16:19] <MethedMan> first time
[16:19] <fisix> meganerd, Device MAC address: 00:16:D4:E1:BD:56
[16:19] <pcpower> network manager refuses to work right for me, so I have to disable it, but then that causes firefox to always start forced in offline mode... SO annoying
[16:19] <fisix> meganerd, cloned mac address is null
[16:19] <fisix> meganerd, MTU is automatic bytes
[16:19] <faraz> i want to use proxy inside my terminal, so i export http_proxy
[16:19] <faraz> but after, i cannot ping google.com
[16:19] <fisix> meganerd, IPv4 settings Method DHCP
[16:20] <Picacodigos> could someone help me with some unity issues?
[16:20] <fisix> Picacodigos, seek a counsellor
[16:20] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[16:20] <faraz> i can successfully connect to the proxy server with other computers and connect to the internet
[16:20] <meganerd> fisix: OK, in my network manager the Device MAC address is blank
[16:20] <faraz> inside my ubuntu also, i can ping my proxy server, but i cannot use it as poxy server
[16:21] <fisix> meganerd, o rly? should i delete it then
[16:21] <ravana> erUSUL: I played with the system a lot. so probably uninstalled it somewhere along the line! I'm new to this.
[16:21] <shadow74_> I'm frome china.
[16:21] <fisix> shadow74_, good for you
[16:21] <meganerd> fisix: copy it down somewhere in case it breaks something.  I am also not using a broadcomm ethernet device
[16:21] <erUSUL> ravana: ok; do « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » ? to make sure everything is as it should be?
[16:22] <shadow74_> hello
[16:22] <faraz> no idea?
[16:22] <fisix> shadow74_, how's dat censorship?
[16:22] <Picacodigos> well, thanks to you all for all the help
[16:22] <MethedMan> how do i get a list of all the different channels on this server
[16:22] <fisix> meganerd, kk
[16:22] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i'm getting errors trying to follow these mounting issues >.<;
[16:22] <mordof> this is not going well..
[16:22] <rumpe1> MethedMan, /list
[16:22] <erUSUL> MethedMan: you dont....
[16:22] <erUSUL> MethedMan: is a huge list :P
[16:23] <erUSUL> MethedMan: better use the alis service to search the channels you are isnterested in
[16:23] <fisix> meganerd, hokay deleted
[16:23] <mordof> ZykoticK9: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, missing codepage or helper program, or other error..."  when trying to mount it
[16:23] <fisix> meganerd, i'll restart and see wat happens..
[16:23] <fisix> meganerd, brb
[16:23] <MethedMan> rumpe1: /list does not work
[16:23] <mordof> i typed mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/work -t ext4
[16:23] <MethedMan> erUSUL: what is alis service
[16:23] <ravana> erUSUL: sure.
[16:23] <meganerd> fisix: k
[16:23] <bazhang> !alis | MethedMan
[16:23] <erUSUL> MethedMan: i.e --> /msg alis list *java*
[16:24] <erUSUL> bazhang: bah! :P
[16:24] <shadow74_>  sorry ,I don't know my english isn't very well
[16:24] <shadow74_> I'm a  student
[16:24] <bazhang> !cn | shadow74_
[16:24] <bazhang> erUSUL, :)
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> mordof, i doubt it would matter but the command should be "mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/work" you could probably leave the "-t ext4" off and it should still work, so probably not the issue.  Are you sure it's sdb2 that you want?  "sudo fdisk -l" should list your partitions and their types.
[16:25] <mordof> ZykoticK9: says to specify the filesystem type and won't let me leave it off..
[16:25] <mordof> ZykoticK9: ah, it's 5
[16:25] <ZykoticK9> mordof, sounds like you're using the wrong device name, or it's not formatted.
[16:25] <shadow74_> thanks
[16:26] <genii-around> ZykoticK9: This also happens if the partition type does not match the filesystem
[16:26] <mordof> ZykoticK9: that'd be the problem~ i was specifying the device as a whole, the extended block with 2
[16:26] <ZykoticK9> genii-around, that would also make sense
[16:27] <DarkStar1> Hello. I just copied over my guest OS to a larger partition using gparted from live cd session. The guest being Ubuntu. I then set the new partition to boot but when I restart the vm all I get is a black screen.. Hoping someone here has tried this before and resolved the issue. Using Vbox 4.04
[16:27] <mordof> ZykoticK9:  grub-install does not exist
[16:28] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i can't use sudo /sbin/grub-install
[16:28]  * mordof sighs
[16:28] <mordof> time to recover it manually it would appear...
[16:28] <damijan> where is terminal
[16:28] <meganerd> mordof: /usr/sbin/grub-install
[16:28] <damijan> where is terminal
[16:28] <maheanuu> Good morning, I am having a problem that is bugging me to no end, I try to open a file or folder and no matter what it is Open office pops up and tries to open it,  I am looking for a fix
[16:28] <itaylor57> damijan: ALT + F2
[16:29] <meganerd> damijan: Applications -> Accessories
[16:29] <mordof> meganerd: ty.. the guide was wrong on that one
[16:29] <mordof> ZykoticK9: after that - installation finished. no error reported.  same as last time though
[16:29] <meganerd> mordof: if in doubt, try "which grub-install"
[16:29] <mordof> ZykoticK9: do i reboot now and see if it worked?
[16:29] <ZykoticK9> mordof, now "update-grub2"!
[16:29] <ljsoftnet> can i replace ubuntu plymouth with usplash?
[16:29] <psymin> what is the best way to disable framebuffer in Ubuntu?
[16:29] <ravana> erUSUL: with the installation of ntfs-3g, it's now working correctly. thanks for the command and the pointers. just updating.
[16:30] <mordof> ZykoticK9: oooh, that did something.. now reboot?
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> mordof, yup
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> mordof, good luck!
[16:30] <mordof> ZykoticK9: kk, i'll be back to let you know regardless of outcome, thanks~
[16:30] <mordof> meganerd: useful info :) thanks
[16:30] <fisix> meganerd, :OOOOOOOOOOO it works!!!
[16:31] <hideki__> http://fukumoto-tech.serveblog.net/wordpress/
[16:31] <fisix> meganerd, booted right into the latter mac address/ thus ip was correctly assigned
[16:31] <phonex01> my serial port on ubuntu called ttyUSB1 and i want to use it with wine  how can i do that ? ???
[16:31] <fisix> meganerd, thank you for the halp (:
[16:32] <maheanuu> Can someone tell me how to stop Open Office from being the default file manager no matter if it;s a file or a external drive open office tries to open each and all by default
[16:32] <meganerd> fisix: np, plan b was to have it set in a script at boot, something like "ip link set dev eth0 address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:" in rc.local
[16:33] <meganerd> fisix: replacing the Xs with actual values of course.  Sorry it took so long, I don't usually mess around with the GUI tools very often.
[16:33] <mordof> ZykoticK9: didn't work at first.. this is kind of bizarre
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> mordof, "at first"?
[16:34] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i thought "ok, it's installed on that hard drive.. i wodner if it's hanging because it's finding SOMETHING but not everything on my other (now empty) hard drive"
[16:34] <mordof> ZykoticK9: so i changed the boot order priority of my hard drives to put the old one lower
[16:34] <mordof> ZykoticK9: and it loads grub.. so now i've got a random empty 500gb hard drive with a blank/failing MBR on it..
[16:34] <mordof> ZykoticK9: i'm in my own install now though
[16:34] <fisix> meganerd, ahh icic. solid backup. lol, too pro for gui eh. somebody had me change my interfaces before. should i revert back to: auto lo
[16:34] <djd> i usually find it a pain to use any presentaion softwares Openoffice/MSword. even tried Ease but none seem to work for me any suggestion on what to do? will using latex help?
[16:34] <fisix> iface lo inet loopback
[16:34] <fisix>  
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> mordof, nice.  Glad you figured it out.
[16:35] <MrBeanAC>  I installed the maverick backported kernel within Lucid Server. But I cannot find the corresponding linux-source-2.6.35 package... any idea?
[16:35] <meganerd> fisix: I just spend a lot of time at the CLI.  We use a bunch of embedded networking devices at work, CLI only.
[16:35] <mordof> ZykoticK9: question is - how do i clear that hard drive entirely? i don't want it to hang like that
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> mordof, i'm not sure man?
[16:36] <meganerd> fisix: the interfaces file does not matter if you are using the GUI (really a front end to network manager).  It would not hurt to put it back though.  The lo is loopback device and that should be enabled.
[16:37] <mordof> ZykoticK9: lol, alright no worries.  at the very least - if i go to put it in another computer (since i dropped windows i have far too much space xD) a install of an OS would be required, thus fixing the MBR anyway
[16:37] <fisix> meganerd, gotcha! cli vs gui related question.. if i sudo apt-get install instead of synaptic, are there any differences?
[16:38] <ZykoticK9> mordof, ya - easiest thing to do really - install an OS on there.
[16:38] <meganerd> fisix: not really.  They all work from the same database.  Some may have more features than others.  I quite like aptitude on the CLI, but mostly for some extended features that most people do not need.
[16:38] <Staticlv> i am running 10.04LTS I have a windows network named tomsnet.  When I click on tomsnet I get the error "unable to mount location"  What am I missing?
[16:39] <fisix> meganerd, icic. well thanks for the help again!
[16:39] <meganerd> fisix: np
[16:39] <schelcj> how does one create default desktop items for all users?
[16:40] <ZykoticK9> schelcj, you might want to research /etc/skel - not sure if it's what you are looking for though, but that folder should be copied into all new user accounts (i haven't really used it, so can't give further advice)
[16:40] <iLjo> hello
[16:40] <fisix> meganerd, oh, would you happen to know that push/pop command to facilitate jumping to diff directories? push is telling me to install heimdal-clients...
[16:40] <adrian_kx> short question:P why flash is broken in beta 2?
[16:40] <ThinkT510> Staticlv: have you installed samba?
[16:41] <adrian_kx> seems more things are broken than fixed
[16:41] <fisix> meganerd, > installed heimdal-clients. it's not wat i want...
[16:41] <ThinkT510> adrian_kx: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <adrian_kx> i have a thinkpad egde:)
[16:41] <iLjo> i have a quick question, i would like to install ubuntu on my laptop, but my cd doesn't work....
[16:41] <iLjo> cd-reader
[16:41] <Staticlv> ThinkT510: yes, and I have looked through the configuration and renamed WORKGROUP to TOMSNET and restarted.
[16:41] <meganerd> fisix: heimdal is kerberos, weird that it was suggested
[16:41] <rumpe1> iLjo, use usb-stick/cardreader...
[16:42] <ZykoticK9> !usb > iLjo
[16:42] <fisix> meganerd, yeah... i uninstalled it. now it says bash: /usr/sbin/push: No such file or directory
[16:42] <ThinkT510> !samba | Staticlv: maybe something here can help you:
[16:42] <iLjo> thank you
[16:42] <hakimarx> any body help me remoting
[16:43] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[16:43] <schelcj> ZykoticK9: i know about /etc/skel but was hoping for something different
[16:44] <Staticlv> ubottu: I will read these.  thank you.
[16:44] <meganerd> fisix: not sure about that.
[16:44] <ResQue> hello all
[16:44] <ResQue> join windows
[16:45] <fisix> meganerd, hmm do u know what i'm talking about though? it's like: push /etc/network. then it cd's into /etc/network. i do my business there, then type pop, and it returns back to where i was before going into /etc/network
[16:45] <hakimarx> any body want help me instaling driver wifi realtek 8192 in gnacktrack
[16:45] <fisix> meganerd, i guess i could write a bash script myself >___>
[16:45] <hakimarx> remote me please
[16:45] <Pici> hakimarx: Only Ubuntu is supported here. Please use #backtrack-linux for backtrack support.
[16:46] <Ishwon> hi...
[16:46] <meganerd> fisix: no, I have never actually done that.  If I have a script that needs to be somewhere I just have it cd in to that folder, then specify where to go next
[16:46] <Ishwon> can some please tell me whom can i contact to register a loco team?
[16:47] <cutout> Hello,
[16:47] <Ishwon> i browsed ubuntu homepage, and the process seems long.
[16:47] <fisix> meganerd, ahh kk. must've been on a lab computer, i thought it was a native linux bin for some reason. will make it myself then ^^
[16:47] <cutout> is it possible to remaster an ubuntu distribution from a debian one?
[16:47] <maheanuu> For some reason Open Office has become the default file manager in this Ubuntu box...  evey file directrory I click on brings up Open Office to try to open it I cannot find a way to stop this madness
[16:48] <ThinkT510> Ishwon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[16:48] <IdleOne> Ishwon: all the info should be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[16:48] <meganerd> fisix: it might exist, I might never hve used it
[16:48] <jennie> isabella where r u???
[16:48] <cutout> further more is it possible to remaster an ubuntu distribution with oracle installation on it?
[16:48] <joe6> i have a ubuntu system that I do not know the authentication password for. I went into the recovery mode and changed the root password with passwd. but, when I change the network settings, the system still tries to authenticate me and fails when I give it the root password.
[16:49] <Ishwon> thanks <ThinkT510> :)
[16:49] <ThinkT510> Ishwon: np
[16:50] <fisix> meganerd, AHH i was thinking of pushd and popd actually! should try them out, they're pretty convenient for cli navigation
[16:50] <rigved> joe6: have you logged into the root user account?
[16:50] <operatorplik> plik1234
[16:50] <sploozer> hello, i'm having problems trying to get my linux box to route traffic between NICS...eth0 net 1 eth1 net 2....I see the traffic come in on eth1 but nothing on eth0. I can reach the destined network from the linux box itself.  I've setup /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 and i believe i've turned off iptables...suggestions?
[16:50] <joe6> rigved, nope, user account. just trying it with the root user account.
[16:51] <fisix> meganerd, http://www.talug.org/events/20030813/cmdline_tips_n_tricks_aug03.html
[16:51] <rigved> joe6: when you change the network settings, the system expects that you enter the password of the user, not the password of root
[16:52] <joe6> rigved, oh, ok. that is what i am missing. thanks.
[16:52] <hakimarx> i think gnacktrack is same driver with ubuntu, because gnacktrack maked with ubuntu 10.10..how is that pici?
[16:52] <rigved> joe6: once you log in as root in the terminal, change the password of the user, so that you can use it
[16:53] <joe6> rigved, smart, thanks, will do that.
[16:53] <DenisMcMahon> right, I have spent most of the day reading man pages for iptables, ip6tables and ufw, and still can't see how to get this port forward set up. The requirement is pretty damn simple. I just want to forward port x on localhost to port x on [ipv6 address]
[16:53] <rigved> joe6: you are welcome.
[16:53] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[16:54] <Pici> hakimarx: gnacktrack is based on backtrack.  We do not support backtrack here.
[16:55] <Pici> hakimarx: They also appear to have #gnacktrack
[16:55] <hakimarx> thanks Pici
[16:56] <psymin> How can I disable ACPI in Ubuntu 11.04 beta?
[16:56] <Pici> psymin : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:57] <psymin> How can I disable ACPI in Ubuntu 10.10? :)
[16:58] <rumpe1> psymin, noascpi as kernel  parameter *guessing*
[16:58] <compdoc> noacpi
[16:58] <rumpe1> right ^^
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> DenisMcMahon:  isent that often done via ssh tunnels ?
[17:01] <vaio> hi jason
[17:02] <vaio> jason are you teacher?
[17:02] <DenisMcMahon> dr_willis tried that but it didn't want to play
[17:02] <ResQue> what is a good x11 server for windows?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> ResQue:  xming
[17:03] <ResQue> xming i have used before, but i have had issues in the past
[17:03] <ResQue> Dr_Willis: i will give it a try again though, if you thnk its good
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> thats about the only one i know of that still is being developed.
[17:03] <itaylor57> ResQue: hummingbird or goglobal
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> cygwin is a way also. but i found xming worked good for me
[17:04] <ResQue> itaylor57: thanks
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> You could just use vnc or freenx also.
[17:04] <kde> hi, someone has tried to install gnome-shell -final- in ubuntu 10 lts
[17:04] <kde> i have lts 10
[17:04] <kde> anyone
[17:05] <andreas> okay
[17:05] <ResQue> sorry guys, i thought i was in windows chat, srry for the random windows question
[17:05] <kde> wait
[17:05] <kde> can you ask me aquestion
[17:05] <andreas> see you later......
[17:06] <kde> hi, someone has tried to install gnome-shell -final- in ubuntu 10 lts
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> kde:   apaently no one has.
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> kde:  check the PPA repos see if it exists.
[17:06] <MethedMan> anyone know of a place/server to learn about wireshark
[17:06] <kde> ok,thx
[17:07] <rumpe1> MethedMan, maybe in #wireshark
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  wireshark homepage perhaps?
[17:07] <hydester> every so often i get into a situation where alt-left, alt-right, alt-f1, etc. behave as if i hit ctrl-alt-<key>.  using maverick.  any idea how to fix this without rebooting?
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> hydester:  you are not using synergy or vnc are you?
[17:08] <MethedMan> thx rumpe1 and Dr_Willis - also what does 'ops' stand for
[17:08] <hydester> Dr_Willis: no.  i did use a vnc client earlier, but it isn't running now
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> hydester:  ive heard of similer bug when using Synergy the ctrl-key would 'stick'
[17:09] <rumpe1> MethedMan, operators? outputs per second? ...  [context needed]
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> hydester:  does it also affect the console? or just X?
[17:09] <MethedMan> in xchat it says "1 ops, 1518 total"
[17:10] <Pici> MethedMan: Those are the number of channel operators. FloodBot1 is opped in this case.
[17:10] <Kindari> What would it mean if a script that I run manually works, but if I run it using cron it fails with exit code 127 (which according to bash man means command not found).
[17:10] <MethedMan> @Pici i appreciate your response.  what exactly is a channel operator?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Kindari:  use the full path to the commands in the script. cron is using a differnt PATH
[17:11] <Pici> MethedMan: A channel admin.
[17:11] <hydester> Dr_Willis: not sure.  ctrl+alt vs alt with those always seem to do the same thing in the console
[17:11] <d1gital> Kindari:  did you set the full path in the crontab? eg "/bin/command" instead of "command"
[17:11] <Kindari> Dr_Willis: Ah, thanks, will try that.
[17:11] <rumpe1> MethedMan, operators
[17:12] <MethedMan> @Pici thx.  i also have *nix questions in general.  is this the right place
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  depends on the Q. theres also the #linux channel
[17:12] <MethedMan> @rumpe1 operators make sure people don't spam and what not?
[17:12] <Kindari> d1gital: No, in cron I did the full path to a script, but in the script I used "tar". Will replace with /bin/tar and see if it works, thanks.
[17:12] <extor> I'm trying to do a PXE install of ubuntu server but I keep getting a kernel panic where it complains of not finding a root fs and cannot mount a VFS: http://oi54.tinypic.com/4rq4hx.jpg
[17:13] <Pici> MethedMan: Yes. But keep in mind that operators only 'op up' when needed. The rest of the time we're just users in the channel, like you.
[17:13] <MethedMan> @Dr_Willis i downloaded TOR and have it running out of the box no problem, but it is not integrated with my system.  how do i place a command so that it shows up as a "possibility" like cp, mv, mkdir, wget, et cetera
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  theres some tor WIKI pages on setting up tor under ubuntu.
[17:14] <MethedMan> tor works perfectly for me
[17:14] <MethedMan> that is not the problem
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  In the past i just started TOR from rc.local  not cron.
[17:15] <arand> MethedMan: torify can be used...
[17:15] <MethedMan> rc.local? cron?
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> or was that the other guy with the cron issue.. :)
[17:15] <MethedMan> usewithtor also works, no problem so i can run tor from the CLI
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> MethedMan, add the TOR executable to your PATH or create a link from somewhere in your PATH
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  if you are asking how to set your PATH you export the PATH variavle
[17:15] <sam_> Good morning everyone. I'm in need of some help because everytime i boot and reboot my computer, it takes me to busybox and won't boot. I was searching the internet and found it has something to do with UUID. Excuse me as I am very new to Ubuntu..
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Bash Basics. :)
[17:16] <MethedMan> @ZykoticK9 and @ Dr_Willis - yes and yes how do i do that
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  You may want to spend some time reasing a few bash beginner guides. You 'export PATH= "proper path"' basically
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> !path
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> No factoid on thta. :)
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> export PATH=$PATH:/new/dir/to/add
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> I think..
[17:17] <ayecee> that'll do, yeah
[17:17] <MethedMan> I need to place it in ~/.bashrc for it to be permanent?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  it may be in your .profile  not sure. check both
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> MethedMan, Dr_Willis command above is correct, but I don't think it will apply across reboots - .bashrc for ^ MethedMans got it
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> MethedMan:  or make a ~/bin dir and put a link to tor in there.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> One issue with keeping yur old /home/ :) my configs are all from years back...
[17:18] <MethedMan> @Dr_Willis -> thx will try
[17:19] <sevith> Elo room
[17:19] <Latro7_> hi is there a way to find out when the root account was created
[17:19] <coz_> hey all
[17:20] <sevith> Latro7_, ? Its created at install?
[17:20] <Latro7_> yes
[17:20] <Chris___> How can I change my login splash screen on Natty? I don't see the option in System > Admin > Login
[17:20] <Latro7_> i mean the date
[17:20] <iceroot> Chris___: #ubuntu+1
[17:20] <iceroot> Latro7_: at the system-installation
[17:21] <MethedMan> @Dr_Willis -> is there a difference between /bin and /usr/bin/      they look the same to me
[17:22] <Latro7_> iceroot where can i find system-installation
[17:23] <MethedMan> @Dr_Willis -> sorry.  i see that they are *very* different.  where is a good source to get a semi-detailed tutorial about the linux file system
[17:23] <d1gital> Dr_Willis:  on keeping your old /home/,  have you run into any problems with old configs?  is it better to let the apps re-create them on install?
[17:24]  * MrMKWingzero pamid dulu semua . nice night :D,see u
[17:25] <yudun> am installing python-mysql and it says EnvironmentError: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql_config not found.
[17:26] <d1gital> I'm going to have to upgrade my Hardy box soon.
[17:26] <gonzalo_> Hello. I installed compizconfig-settings-manager with apt-get and now when I turn my laptop on I lose my theme settings. I have to manually open "Appearances" for the theme to turn on. Even so, Nautilus looks ugly (no theme). Help please!
[17:26]  * d1gital sheds a tear
[17:28] <d1gital> Am I the only one still using Hardy?  I'm afraid that keeping my /home will cause problems when I upgrade.
[17:29] <somewhereinthewi> hi everybody!
[17:29] <WaltherFI> d1gital: you could delete the settings files/folders and keep your personal stuff
[17:30] <yudun> how to install mysql_config?
[17:30] <FireTalon> poop
[17:30] <FireTalon> pooop
[17:30] <FireTalon> poop
[17:31] <FireTalon> poop
[17:31] <FireTalon> poop
[17:31] <FloodBot1> FireTalon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <somewhereinthewi> i installed ubuntu via wubi but my hard drive is kind of damaged and works better with windows. right know i cant acess ubuntu, does anyone knows an "easy" way to aceess ubuntu files via windows?
[17:31] <d1gital> WaltherFI:  but I'd hate to reconfigure everything.. are the configs likely to cause problems?
[17:32] <WaltherFI> d1gital: if you're upgrading from hardy to natty, i'd suggest clean install
[17:32] <WaltherFI> so much have changed
[17:32] <WaltherFI> d1gital: also, i'd suggest going straight for the 11.04, not 10.10 as 11 is coming so soon anyway
[17:33] <d1gital> WaltherFI: =\  so "rm -rf ~/.*" should be ok?
[17:34] <aauthor> Does anyone know how I might be able to make Shift+Scroll Wheel emulate a horizontal scroll?
[17:34] <epidemic> how can i run my java program from the terminal??? what is the command for that
[17:34] <aauthor> epitron: Is it a jar or class file?
[17:34] <epidemic> it is a .java file
[17:34] <epidemic> i also have the class file
[17:34] <WaltherFI> d1gital: hm, sounds legit - however, i think you should run it from live cd/usb
[17:34] <WaltherFI> d1gital: to make sure nothing's left behind
[17:35] <Pici> epidemic: javac file.java && java file  (or just java filename if you already have the class).
[17:35] <abit> what are ya talking about
[17:35] <aauthor> epitron: You can't run a java file dirrectly, you'd need to compile it and make a class file.
[17:35] <d1gital> WaltherFI:  good idea,  thanks.  so 11.04 drops at the end of the month, right?
[17:35] <epidemic> okey, so how can i run the class file then?
[17:35] <WaltherFI> d1gital: yes. The beta is quite stable already, though
[17:35] <Pici> abit: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. For general chat, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:36] <aauthor> epitron: With the class file type "java <<classfile>>" make sure that you do not include .class to the name
[17:36] <pentester123> Anyone know of any collaboration software or anything similar that a small office would benefit from?
[17:36] <epidemic> okey, thank you :) i will try that
[17:36] <WaltherFI> d1gital: been using natty for a month, usable, though some compiz problems + not too optimized nvidia drivers (no more 720p on my laptop)
[17:36] <aauthor> epi:No problem, let me know if you have trouble.
[17:37] <somewhereinthewi> i installed ubuntu via wubi but my hard drive is kind of damaged and works better with windows. right know i cant acess ubuntu, does anyone knows an "easy" way to aceess ubuntu files via windows?
[17:37] <aauthor> Does anyone know how I might be able to make Shift+Scroll Wheel emulate a horizontal scroll?
[17:37] <WaltherFI> aauthor: isn't it ctrl+scroll?
[17:37] <WaltherFI> aauthor: or alt?
[17:38] <WaltherFI> aauthor: i think there is a default one
[17:38]  * aauthor checks.
[17:38] <d1gital> WaltherFI:  I'm not worried about compiz, but I am using nvidia drivers.. are you talking about nv or the closed-source drivers?
[17:38] <WaltherFI> d1gital: the default ones from repos at least use a bit more calculating power, as in i used to be able to play 720p on my laptop w/ maverick
[17:39] <WaltherFI> anyway, party time, woo
[17:39] <melt> how can I show two windows at once without positioning them manually ?
[17:39] <aauthor> WaltherFI: I don't think that there is a default one that is implemented system-wide.  Some applications like chrome use shift, but I'd like to be able to do it in any application (such as firefox.)
[17:40] <swatto> Anyone know how to run VLC as daemon?
[17:40] <aauthor> melt: Do you have ccsm installed by any chance?
[17:40] <WaltherFI> swatto: what do you mean?
[17:41] <WaltherFI> swatto: vlc can open .iso disks straight out of the box, if that's what you're looking for
[17:41] <swatto> WaltherFI, start it at startup without the GUI so i can remote administer with http interface on my phone
[17:41] <WaltherFI> swatto: cvlc
[17:41] <melt> is there a shortcut in ccsm to do that ?
[17:41] <WaltherFI> swatto: cvlc is vlc without gui
[17:41] <phretor> can I *test* dhclient without actually applying anything?
[17:41] <WaltherFI> swatto: installed by default with vlc
[17:41] <swatto> WaltherFI, awesome thanks :)
[17:42] <WaltherFI> swatto: just type cvlc filename.mkv or so in the terminal
[17:42] <phretor> I just want to test whether a certain DHCP responds correctly, but I don't want to apply the addresses to my eth0. Any idea?
[17:42] <melt> should i install advanced ccsm or simple ?
[17:42] <aauthor> melt: Yes.
[17:42] <WaltherFI> anyway, partytime people, cya
[17:42] <aauthor> melt: Advanced
[17:42] <swatto> WaltherFI, could i just type cvlc as a command in startup applications
[17:42] <WaltherFI> melt: advanced most probably
[17:42] <geekbuntu> . does anyone know of a laser printer brand/model that will work out of the box with 10.10?
[17:42] <WaltherFI> swatto: try it out
[17:42] <swatto> WaltherFI, or does it need to accept arguements?
[17:43] <neurochrome> anyone know how to recover data from a drive that is making weird noises.  I want to dd it but the drive is not being recognised... The drive itself is making a noise similar to that youtube video of a guy playing the super mario theme on a rotary motor
[17:43] <WaltherFI> swatto: not sure, but vlc is very versatile, try it out[B
[17:43] <HyperShock> good day all! I have installed maverick meerkat on a clients toshiba and now his 0bda:0158 RTL mass storage device will not mount his sd cards. I have added the usb-modules and modprobed it which now shows the mmcr, but when you insert the sd it goes away and there is nothing mounted in its place. anyone have an idea or solution?
[17:43] <ruan> i cant browse my phone with bluetooth anymore; it says Nautilus cannot handle "obex" locations.  any suggestions?
[17:43] <aauthor> melt: After you have ccsm installed, use "Grid" to set up keyboard shortcuts to do what you want them to do.
[17:43] <swatto> WaltherFI, will do brb :D oh btw to anybody that couldnt figure out my issues with startup apps not working it was because I had a corrupt user profile so just had to delete old user and make new, everything working now
[17:44] <ikonia> HyperShock: manually mount it
[17:44] <WaltherFI> swatto: you're not the only one who has had problems with startup apps...
[17:44] <swatto> WaltherFI, its a common occurance atm?
[17:44] <ThinkT510> geekbuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[17:45] <geekbuntu> ThinkT510, was just looking at that - only saw one 3million dollar model
[17:45] <WaltherFI> swatto: well, the startup apps doing crazy stuff is a common thing and been for a while
[17:45] <geekbuntu> ThinkT510, was hoping for something that someone who had to work could afford o.0
[17:45] <somewhereinthewi> i installed ubuntu via wubi but my hard drive is kind of damaged and works better with windows. right know i cant acess ubuntu, does anyone knows an "easy" way to aceess ubuntu files via windows?
[17:45] <ikonia> somewhereinthewi: you don't do that
[17:45] <kz3> can anyone help me setting up a proxy server in ubuntu?
[17:45] <ikonia> somewhereinthewi: ext3 is highly unstable,
[17:46] <HyperShock> ikonia: ok
[17:46] <ikonia> somewhereinthewi: (in relationship to windows)
[17:46] <swatto> can anyone recommend a decent wysiwyg webpage editor?
[17:47] <edwinkcw> swatto: dreamweaver with wine :P
[17:47] <ThinkT510> geekbuntu: sorry, i haven't got a laser printer, i have a hp deskjet 3000, had to add the ppd file to support it in cups
[17:48] <melt> OK I installed ccsm. what to do next ?
[17:48] <HyperShock> ikonia: how can i know what device it is? gnome shows the mmcr icon, hitting properties indicates no device name
[17:48] <geekbuntu> ThinkT510, i appreciate the effort - just havfe to hand this off to soem peeps who may be challenged to set it up if it's more than just plug/play
[17:48] <necromancer> haha
[17:48] <ruan> i cant browse my phone with bluetooth anymore; it says Nautilus cannot handle "obex" locations.  any suggestions?
[17:48] <geekbuntu> *shudders... i said the p&p phrase*
[17:48] <necromancer> dreamweaver..
[17:48] <ikonia> HyperShock: it's going to be /dev/sd$X you should be able to work it out
[17:49] <necromancer> ruan: OBEX is a bluetooth file-sharing protocol, just so you know
[17:49] <mad__bull> hi, i'm running backtrack which is based off ubuntu
[17:49] <melt> how can I split the view to show two windows simultaneously  with ccsm?
[17:49] <ruan> yeah i know, but why isnt it working. it worked before
[17:49] <mad__bull> now the backtrack repos have outdated versions of my graphics drivers
[17:49] <mad__bull> so i've added ubuntu repos to /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:49] <ikonia> mad__bull: we don't support backtrack linux here
[17:49] <rumpe1> mad__bull, backtrack isn't supported here
[17:49] <BluesKaj> !backtrack
[17:49] <ikonia> mad__bull: #backtrack-linux is the channel you need
[17:49] <coz_> mad__bull,  did you try talking with them on their irc channel?
[17:50] <HyperShock> ikonia: thanks for making me think, the magic command to find the device node is >> sudo fdisk -l
[17:50] <mad__bull> coz_, yeah i did
[17:50] <mad__bull> i thought this was more an apt-get question
[17:50] <ikonia> mad__bull: they seem to be helping you, please progress it in there
[17:50] <ikonia> HyperShock: bang on !
[17:50] <mad__bull> as the question is a generic one around apt-get
[17:50] <coz_> mad__bull,  no it is actually what those guys do with their repositories
[17:50] <ikonia> mad__bull: please progress it in there
[17:50] <edwinkcw> ls
[17:50] <Infame> I have a slight problem with Linux... If this is the correct place to post?
[17:50] <ikonia> Infame: is it ubuntu ?
[17:51] <mad__bull> ok thanks
[17:51] <Infame> Yeah
[17:51] <ikonia> Infame: go for it
[17:51] <hechu> hi, is there anyone using new Intel I5 Sandy Bridge with integrated GPU (HD 3000)? I can not drive it normally. please any suggestion.
[17:51] <melt> what to do with ccsm to show two windows at the same time ???
[17:51] <ruan> the commandline util works perfectly fine. gui doesnt
[17:51] <akis24> sera
[17:52] <HyperShock> ikonia: my client doesn't need to be going to shell/cli, and I need the gnome icon to appear when this thing is mounted, in short I need it to be automounted. the client will be using multiple sd cards in the device. any suggestions?
[17:52] <ikonia> HyperShock: manually mounting it will give an idea as to why the automounting isn't working
[17:52] <ThinkT510> melt: maybe #compiz can help you more?
[17:52] <melt> ok thanks
[17:52] <ruan> i'll have to create a obex cl-ui at this point
[17:52] <HyperShock> ikonia: no it didn't actually, i successfully manually mounted it
[17:53] <HyperShock> ikonia: the files i need are in fact there and can be accessed.
[17:53] <ikonia> HyperShock: interesting, so unmount it, remove and put the card back in, look at the sylog, it may give a clue
[17:54] <hechu> hi, is there some one who has experience in Sandy Bridge GPU (HD 3000)? the driver can not support it.
[17:54] <ikonia> hechu: hyst state your problem
[17:55] <Infame> Well... Every time I start the computer I get greeted with this: error: no such partion. grub rescue>
[17:55] <hechu> ikonia, what is it means?
[17:55] <Infame> It worked fine a min ago...
[17:55] <ikonia> Infame: it means the disk with your ubuntu install on for some reason isn't accessible at that moment
[17:55] <Infame> It won't even give me the choise of which OS to use...
[17:56] <ikonia> hechu: it means explain your problem
[17:56] <ThinkT510> Infame: that is the grub rescue prompt
[17:56] <elementz_> what is a quick way to find out in what repository a specific package resides? e.g. i would like to know where 'sudo' is located
[17:56] <Infame> I have absolutely no idea what that is ThinkT510 :p
[17:57] <rumpe1> elementz_, dpkg -S sudo
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Infame, try sudo update-grub and paste the output
[17:57] <HyperShock> ikonia: not getting anything in logs, system thinks all is ok
[17:57] <Infame> BluesKaj, at the grub rescue> promp?
[17:57] <ThinkT510> Infame: look here under the heading command line and rescue mode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Infame, from a tty if possible
[17:58] <hechu> ikonia, oh, I bought a new laptop with Intel I5 Sandy Bridge CPU, and the GPU is also integrated with CPU. I installed 10.10, but the it seems the graphics driver do not support my GPU. I can only use VESA driver.
[17:58] <elementz_> thx
[17:59] <ThinkT510> BluesKaj: he can't boot, its a rescue prompt from grub
[17:59] <ikonia> hechu: the gpu is nothing to do with the cpu
[17:59] <ikonia> HyperShock: look at the dbus logs and dmesg output
[17:59] <Infame> to use the terminal id have to use the 'presentation option' on the ubuntu disc...
[18:00] <kinect27> guys, i tried downloading the netbook remix again, hoping the new download would fix the problem, so i used the startup disk creator, everything is good, except it halts in 94 percent, and it says check sums do not match, yes or no, i tried using another 1gb usb, since i thought my 8gb usb might be faulty, but its thesame
[18:00] <ThinkT510> Infame: at the rescue prompt type ls
[18:01] <ThinkT510> Infame: you should see a list of partitions
[18:01] <Infame> yeah
[18:01] <kinect27> last year, there was a problem with my trackpad, it shows an X cursor, instead of the normal pointer, and the menu icons disappear on some programs, minimize, x , maximize buttons
[18:01] <elementz> rumpe1: hm. maybe i was too unspecific. what i want to find out is, which apt-repository provides a certain package/program
[18:01] <ThinkT510> Infame: do you remember the partition you installed ubuntu to?
[18:01] <Infame> partion 5
[18:02] <Infame> (hd0,msdos5) then I guess?
[18:03] <ThinkT510> Infame: type: "ls (hd0,5)/" does it show you a load of directories?
[18:04] <rumpe1> elementz, well... the dpkg command gives you the packages with the specified string (of a command e.g.). The next step would be the policy-command on the package-name to get the repository... maybe i will remember the exact name of the policy-command.
[18:04] <Infame> error: bad filename
[18:04] <dador> Hi everyone! Please help. How do I change the language that use at startup? (in console)
[18:04] <hechu> ikonia, thank you for you information. here is a post about Sandy Bridge: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODk2OA  it seems there is no usable driver for my graphics card.
[18:04] <ThinkT510> Infame: did you type it with the quotes? if so take off the quotes
[18:05] <rumpe1> elementz, ah... apt-cache policy foopackage
[18:05] <Infame> oh lol, I forgot the / character. My bad.
[18:06] <elementz> rumpe1: thx!
[18:06] <Infame> Yeah, it shows a few folders, ThinkT510
[18:06] <ThinkT510> Infame: good, bear with me
[18:06] <mefrio> hi people
[18:06] <mefrio> how can i boot chakra linux from ubuntu's grub?
[18:06] <ThinkT510> Infame: next type: set prefix=(hd0,5)/boot/grub
[18:07] <Infame> ThinkT510: Ok.
[18:07] <rumpe1> mefrio, update-grub
[18:07] <ThinkT510> Infame: it shouldn't give you any output, don't worry
[18:07] <mefrio> rumpe1 I have the chakra iso but I would boot it from the grub
[18:07] <ThinkT510> Infame: then type: set root=(hd0,5)
[18:07] <Infame> alright
[18:07] <rumpe1> mefrio, grub-entry for the iso-file?
[18:08] <mefrio> rumpe1 how can I do it?
[18:08] <ThinkT510> Infame: then type: insmod linux
[18:08] <Infame> ThinkT510: Done
[18:08] <rumpe1> mefrio, sorry... never done it.
[18:09] <mefrio> rumpe1 ok thank you...I search it on google
[18:09] <ThinkT510> Infame: good, now type: normal
[18:09] <Infame> WOAH
[18:09] <Infame> The freakin' boot screen apparead o.o
[18:09] <Infame> :DD:D:D
[18:10] <Infame> ThinkT510: Thank you man!
[18:10] <ThinkT510> Infame: excellent, when you boot into your ubuntu make sure you update grub, so you won't have to repeat these steps again
[18:10] <Infame> ThinkT510: How do I update it? Mind redirecting me to a page? Don't want to give you too much bother
[18:11] <rumpe1> Infame, sudo update-grub
[18:11] <ThinkT510> Infame: rumpe1 beat me to it :)
[18:11] <rumpe1> \o/ yay
[18:12] <kinect27> what is the best way to download ubuntu netbook remix, and how much is the total mb size ? the 10.10 version
[18:12] <ruan> !netbook
[18:12] <ruan> kinect27: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[18:12] <rumpe1> kinect27, around CD-size
[18:13] <kedirakevo> hello channel, I require some assistance
[18:13] <ubuntunewb> hey guys im on a live CD trying to sort out grub2
[18:13] <Infame> Ok, next question... Due to some 'failed' installations, my hdd got partioned 3 times... Is there a way to 'merge' them togheter with the hd0,1 one?
[18:13] <ubuntunewb> any takers? :P
[18:13] <kinect27> the actual mb please? i downloaded it 3 times already, once on win xp, twice on my dell ubuntu, tried the md5 test, its okai , but i cant install it in my usb
[18:13] <Infame> and, thank you Rumpe1 :p
[18:13] <ruan> Infame: from the livecd, gparted
[18:13] <atlef> !grub | ubuntunewb
[18:14] <ubuntunewb> atlef: I have two seperate HDDs
[18:14] <Infame> hum...
[18:14] <rumpe1> kinect27, install how? i would recommend unetbootin
[18:14] <genii-around> ruan: !unr I think is the factoid you were looking for previously
[18:14] <ruan> kinect27: hmm. 712594 kb
[18:15] <ruan> genii-around: right. thanks
[18:15] <kinect27> u sure? lemme check my filesize
[18:15] <Pulsewidth> How can I download the source for a package from a previous version of Ubuntu?
[18:15] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:15] <ruan> gwget says 712594 kb.
[18:15] <rumpe1> kinect27, if md5 is correct, the filesize doesnt matter... md5 ist much more reliable
[18:16] <kinect27> 695.9 mb for the 10.10 netbook remix iso
[18:16] <kinect27> i downloaded it twice, so im not sure whats wrong
[18:17] <ruan> what's the problem with installing
[18:17] <ZykoticK9> kinect27, forget about the file size - check the MD5 sum of the isos
[18:17] <HyperShock> can anyone help me with a multimedia card reader that is failing to show an automounted icon when a sd card is inserted, here is the output from dmesg when i insert the card, there is no mesg when the card is removed. >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594558/
[18:17] <Infame> gparted is on Ubuntu?
[18:17] <rumpe1> kinect27, whats the exact problem? ... aborted transfer to the usb-device?
[18:17] <compdoc> Infame, you can install it easily
[18:17] <ruan> Infame: its on the livecd, also on ubuntu but you need to have the partitions unmounted
[18:17] <ubuntunewb> here is my error: http://pastebin.com/CA8kRUpL
[18:17] <ruan> Infame: ie you can't be using a partition and partition it at the same time
[18:18] <ruan> Infame: which is why its generally done from a livecd
[18:18] <Infame> oh.
[18:18] <kinect27> rumpe1, when i use the startup disk creator , it copies the files to the usb, only at 94 percent, then it freezes, and it says checksums do not match, yes or no?
[18:18] <Infame> Time to get some 'burning' done then...
[18:18] <ruan> also liveusb
[18:18] <ruan> any form of a livecd
[18:19] <kinect27> it happened to my 2 downloads, i thought it was my usb, so i tried another 1, its thesame
[18:19] <Infame> k, thanks. Ill look it into it
[18:19] <ruan> kinect27: how large is the usb
[18:19] <rumpe1> kinect27, well.. maybe the stick or the usb-creater is broken... try it with unetbootin and/or check your usb-device
[18:19] <kinect27> or maybe theres something wrong with my netbook remix? the older version? could it affect the startup disk creation
[18:19] <kinect27> both of them broken?
[18:19] <phoenixsampras> how to restart my sound?? i dont hear anything!! BUG??
[18:19] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[18:20] <Staticlv> i just installed 10.04LTS and when I start up the computer my wireless does not automatically connect.  I have to force it.  Is there a switch I can flip for it to connect automatically?
[18:20] <rumpe1> kinect27, as i said ... unetbootin is a better tool for this.
[18:20] <Infame> Also, one more question... How do I 'activate' the network thingy so I can use wireless?
[18:20] <ruan> phoenixsampras: sudo service pulseaudio restart
[18:20] <ruan> phoenixsampras: try that.
[18:20] <kinect27> ok rumpe1. ill try it on xp
[18:21] <hechu> hi, is any body has experience on the new Intel Sandy Bridge chip-set ? any suggestions.
[18:21] <linuxrealm> Good Morning
[18:21] <ruan> Infame: network manager should work
[18:21] <hechu> I the graphics driver can not support my GPU.
[18:21] <ubuntunewb> do i need to edit my fstab for update-grub to work? Im in a liveCD
[18:22] <quup> how should I go about fixing suspend issues? currently it appears to be suspending fine until I try to wakeup when it just powers off and I get the BIOS splash, nothing in logs, so I have no clue how to continue
[18:22] <quup> !suspend
[18:22] <phoenixsampras> suspend has BUGS!!
[18:22] <rumpe1> hechu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22237/when-will-we-get-sandy-bridge-support
[18:22] <ruan> not sure about that
[18:23] <Infame> Can't find network manager...
[18:23] <ruan> Infame: try wicd
[18:23] <ruan> !info wicd
[18:23] <kermit> is 'page allocation failue. order:4, mode:0x4020' from random processes at random times anything to worry about?
[18:23] <rumpe1> hechu, maybe you have more luck with natty
[18:23] <hechu> rumpe1, thank you for your information.
[18:23] <ruan> kermit: is memory status ok?
[18:23] <kermit> ruan: what do you mean?
[18:24] <ruan> kermit: how much free memory is there
[18:24] <kermit> ruan: i made a script to run 'free' the instant such a thing appeared in the logs, and everything looked normal
[18:24] <Infame> Hum... But Ubuntu notified me last time of an 'application' needed to be activated... after that, the networks were all listed...
[18:24] <test1234> Hi, does anyone know how to add a line of text to your list repositories?
[18:25] <ruan> test1234: sources.list ?
[18:25] <test1234> ruan: how do you edit sources.list?
[18:25] <test1234> ruan: when i open that file it asks if i want to "revert" and i dont know the meaning of that.
[18:26] <ruan> test1234: gksudo gedit /path/to/sources.list
[18:26] <test1234> ruan: thanks mate
[18:26] <ThinkT510> test1234: revert means to go back to the old one
[18:26] <linuxrealm> ruan: why use gksudo?
[18:26] <ruan> !gksudo
[18:26] <linuxrealm> vs sudo
[18:26] <linuxrealm> im asking you ruan
[18:26] <multipass> is there any way to make stuff move instead of copy? like drag dropping files
[18:26] <ruan> linuxrealm: ubottu explained it
[18:26] <atlef> test1234: alt+F2 and type: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:27] <linuxrealm> psychocats.net, i dont know that site
[18:27] <bhavesh> I am upgrading to 100.04 through update manager, its half done but I need to close my computer will it cancel the download?
[18:27] <Staticlv> multipass: Dolphin works like the old windows explorer.
[18:27] <bhavesh> 11.04*
[18:27] <test1234> atlef: thanks, it worked.
[18:27] <test1234> ruan: thanks
[18:27] <linuxrealm> why would you prefer running something graphically over cmdline ruan?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: #ubuntu+1 for 11.04 support
[18:28] <ruan> linuxrealm: gedit doesn't run in console
[18:28] <bhavesh> ok
[18:28] <linuxrealm> so why not sudo gedit
[18:28] <grubproblems> i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/CA8kRUpL
[18:28] <ruan> linuxrealm: the link explains it..
[18:28] <grubproblems> im on a live cd
[18:28] <brightspark> linuxrealm, read the link
[18:29] <ThinkT510> linuxrealm: if you like you can sudo nano
[18:29] <linuxrealm> i gedit
[18:29] <meganerd> grubproblems: did you chroot?
[18:29] <grubproblems> meganerd: nope
[18:29] <ruan> !gksudo | linuxrealm
[18:29] <grubproblems> im on a live CD trying to install grub to two seperate HDDs
[18:30] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[18:30] <meganerd> grubproblems: why?
[18:30] <resixian> i can't get the damn lock to stop when suspend/hibernate starts. i have tried clearing everything with the applications, gconf-editor but still it always locks the screen
[18:30] <ruan> linuxrealm: the link explains it perfectly
[18:30] <maheanuu> How do I keep Open Office from trying to be the default file manager?
[18:30] <grubproblems> because when i boot up i get stuck in a grub prompt and for some reason, grub doesnt want to see my win7 HDD, meganerd.
[18:31] <hechu> rumpe1, thank you for you help. actually I came from Natty beta, and it still has GPU lockup bug bother me every day. the bug was confirmed by freedesktop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/727594, is it means the only thing I can do is waiting.
[18:31] <meganerd> grubproblems: that is kind of import information
[18:33] <maheanuu> Almost every file or application I click on (either right or left click) brings up Open Office and it runs for a second and then closes.   I am not able to get into my downloads, or many applications
[18:33] <Ishwon> Anyone could please advise me on how to register a LoCo Team, please?
[18:33] <brightspark> resixian, try under preferences>screensaver
[18:34] <atlef> !loco | Ishwon
[18:34] <ruan> maheanuu: as a temporary solution, you can run "nautilus /path/". still thinking of a solution though
[18:34] <phoenixsampras> My MIC is not responding!!?? BUG?
[18:35] <Staticlv> maheanuu: you are going to have to remap your files to their default programs.  Left click, open with, other application, -- then choose the program you want to use.  make sure the remember this application is checked.
[18:35] <ruan> phoenixsampras: check sound settings
[18:35] <brightspark> phoenixsampras, see if you have anything muted in alsamixer
[18:35] <ruan> maheanuu: that's a right click
[18:35] <maheanuu> Even when i right click it bring up open office
[18:35] <Staticlv> ruan: thanks. my brain is fried with my issues.
[18:36] <ruan> maheanuu: right click a folder on the desktop
[18:36] <ruan> maheanuu: open with other application
[18:36] <ruan> maheanuu: then choose "Open Folder"
[18:37] <phoenixsampras> how to check if anything is muted on alsamixer?
[18:37] <ruan> phoenixsampras: run "alsamixer" in a terminal or go to sound settings
[18:40] <maheanuu> Staticlv, Thanks much I didn't realize that you could just use "open with Other Application and not choose any application
[18:40] <peta> hi guys
[18:41] <maheanuu> Wurkin fine now Static, appreciate the help
[18:41] <peta> does someone know if /usr/local/lib is a default location in which shared libs will be searched? (10.04)
[18:41] <Laggg> !ping meganerd
[18:42] <[Soma]> hey there. Ubuntu 10.10 isn't able to detect my LG Flatron E2350V monitor. Henceforth, I can't go any higher in resolution than 1360x768 (1600x900 and 1920x1080 both work fine in windows). Any ideas?
[18:42] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[18:42] <resixian> brightspark: no good, but i did find this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466504
[18:43] <resixian> step #3 finally did the trick
[18:43] <jeremymcs> anyone here have mysql master>master replication running on 10.10/maverick ?
[18:43] <Laggg> meganerd, you here?
[18:43] <resixian> gnome needs some serious consolidation of options/settings
[18:45] <phoenixsampras> HELP How to add a SIP account on EMPATHY?
[18:46] <brightspark> resixian, yeah that's my current problem too; I need to edit some settings for gdm as well as gnome
[18:47] <brightspark> can't find where they're stored
[18:49] <WXZ> what's the character for manual line break called?
[18:49] <WXZ> or what's it's unicode?
[18:50] <mongy> to prevent a service loading at boot, you add (none and ...) to the .conf line in /etc/init dont you?
[18:50] <LordOllie> WXZ: CRLF?(Carriage Return Line Feed)
[18:51] <WXZ> LordOllie: yes, thank you
[18:51] <meganerd> I am now
[18:51] <meganerd> Laggg: I am now, whats up?
[18:51] <LordOllie> WXZ: np
[18:51] <Laggg> whats up man? I was ubuntunewb just before
[18:51] <trism> mongy: actually I think it is never
[18:52] <mongy> thats the one.......cheers
[18:52] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[18:52] <Laggg> meganerd, I installed grub2 successfully but its not seeing my win7 HDD, how do I fix this? Want me to pastebin the output errors?
[18:52] <Laggg> im way past being pointed to a wiki, this is a unique problem
[18:53] <trism> mongy: unless this is natty, then you can: echo "manual" > /etc/init/gdm.override; or whatever .conf file you want to only start manually
[18:53] <BluesKaj> !windows
[18:54] <Laggg> can you help me, meganerd? If not thats fine too ;P
[18:54] <edoceo> Anyone know of a Ubuntu Lucid 64bit package for Gluster 3.1.2 ?
[18:55] <meganerd> Laggg: sure, though a little warning, I have not dual booted in a while, and never with Windows 7.  From the quick peek I have taken of my Win7 box, it partitions things differently from what I remember
[18:55] <WXZ> can I download the 3.0.0 version of nautilus, even though it's not in the official repositories for my ubuntu version?
[18:55] <meganerd> Laggg: I will try, no promises :)
[18:55] <Infame> ThinkT510: still around?
[18:55] <itaylor57> WXZ: no gnome 3 yet
[18:55] <ThinkT510> Infame: yes
[18:56] <BluesKaj> !grub
[18:56] <Infame> ThinkT510: I just restarted... same message appaered
[18:56] <WXZ> itaylor57: but the nautilus 3.0 is ready anyway
[18:56] <Infame> ThinkT510: All I did was restarting it after the proccedure...
[18:56] <Laggg> hang on meganerd
[18:57] <ThinkT510> Infame: here are the instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:57] <itaylor57> WXZ: you can look for a PPA but there isn't any ready yet for ubuntu
[18:57] <ThinkT510> Infame: under the heading rescue mode
[18:57] <Infame> ThinkT510, will I need to do this over and over again? o_O
[18:58] <ThinkT510> Infame: thats why i said to update-grub after you booted to make it permanent
[18:58] <Infame> I did that
[18:59] <ThinkT510> Infame: if that doesn't make it stick you may need to reinstall grub
[18:59] <Infame> o_O
[18:59] <Infame> how's that done? Ubuntu cannot seem to find the network driver for me to activate...
[19:00] <ThinkT510> Infame: you won't need a network connection to reinstall grub2
[19:01] <jacobfogg> Is anyone familiar with the little images on some open source projects where it shows the number of lines of code, number of developers and total estimated cost of development... I want to do that for a project I am working on, but I can't seem to find it.
[19:01] <tumnus> welcome
[19:01] <Laggg> meganerd, i found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1605076.html
[19:02] <ThinkT510> Infame: ubuntu uses the UUID system to identify partitions, so if you make any changes you need to update that accordingly, personally i prefer the /dev/sd* system
[19:02] <muay-guy> hey guys, I'm trying to install xfce4 in ubuntu 10.04 but I'm finding some issues with doing it from synaptic and from the terminal
[19:02] <muay-guy> "Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not going to be installed"
[19:03] <ThinkT510> muay-guy: you could have installed xubuntu if you're not using gnome, saves all the leftover cruft
[19:03] <muay-guy> ThinkT510, I know but I'm not the onlyone using this computer
[19:03] <muay-guy> and I'm afraid I'm the onlyone who prefers xfce
[19:04] <ThinkT510> muay-guy: i prefer xfce too, it's available via the metapackage xubuntu-desktop
[19:05] <mauro_> hi all, ita support ?
[19:05] <Strife892> Hello, all. I'm trying to get Ubuntu 10.10 running properly on an HP G60 laptop, but the wireless function refuses to work; the button that toggles it is orange and won't change even if I press it.
[19:05] <Strife892> Ubuntu, meanwhile, tells me that wireless is disabled.
[19:05] <WXZ> does anyone know which character word uses to represent tabs?
[19:06] <muay-guy> ThinkT510, I tried that too but I get the same error
[19:06] <ThinkT510> Strife892: do you know what wireless card you have?
[19:07] <Strife892> ThinkT510: I do not, unfortunately.
[19:07] <one> how to install Ralink RT2870
[19:07] <one> help
[19:07] <ThinkT510> muay-guy: hmm, odd, not sure whats goig on there sorry, does everything else install?
[19:08] <muay-guy> yeap, it's the first time I've had this problem
[19:08] <ThinkT510> Strife892: can you pastebin the output of: lspci
[19:08] <Strife892> ThinkT510: lshw says I have a AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[19:09] <Strife892> ThinkT510: Or, with lspci: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[19:09] <Chris___> I'm having issues installing a new splash screen - http://paste.honk-honk.org/235
[19:09] <mauro_> hi all, for ita support??
[19:09] <ThinkT510> Strife892: does it appear in here? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:002B:168C-NETWORK
[19:09] <Laggg> meganerd, idk what to do now :P
[19:10] <atlef> !it | mauro_
[19:10] <MiratCanBayrak> dasd
[19:10] <ThinkT510> Strife892: it seems certified, so it should work
[19:10] <Strife892> ThinkT510: As this is an HP G60, it appears that it isn't known to appear in this laptop.
[19:12] <alecsandr> ubuntu 10.10 totem Обнаружена ошибка в дополнительной библиотеке GStreamer. ПОМОГИТЕ
[19:12] <fizyplankton> is there any cammond i can use to forcibly kill (not pause or stop) any and all python processes that math sertain criteria?
[19:13] <ThinkT510> Strife892: hmm, it doesn't appear to be in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:13] <Strife892> ThinkT510: Hang on, I found something to try in the forums, which requires a reboot.
[19:14] <Strife892> Once the updates finish installing, at least.
[19:14] <ThinkT510> Strife892: hope it works for you
[19:14] <hp> Strife892,  i dont have ubuntu on my hp , am here too looking for help
[19:14] <fizyplankton> is there any cammond i can use to forcibly kill (not pause or stop) any and all python processes that math sertain criteria?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> hp: anything i can help with?
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !ru | alecsandr
[19:16] <hp> ThinkT510,  well i have a problem on my other pc running ubuntu 10.10 , that is it is always takes me back to login screen randomly
[19:16] <alecsandr> SPASIBO !!!!))))
[19:17] <hp> ThinkT510,  i do get a error in my logs , bonobo-activation-server could not associate with desktop session: error connecting : conection refused.
[19:17] <agsu> Anyone here familiar with installing ubuntu on a mac?
[19:17] <fizyplankton> is there any cammond i can use to forcibly kill (not pause or stop) any and all python processes that math sertain criteria?
[19:17] <hp> ThinkT510,  i thinks its someting with gnome-panel but am not sure
[19:17] <ThinkT510> hp: hmm, thats out of my league, sorry i can't help
[19:18] <itaylor57> agsu: what kind of mac?
[19:18] <hp> ThinkT510,  no prblem :p
[19:18] <agsu> MacBook pro 7,1
[19:18] <agsu> Managed to install 10.10 but cant get wifi working
[19:18] <Apollonovich> how do I get the backports version of a package?
[19:19] <agsu> For some reason additional drivers doesent show a driver for wifi
[19:19] <Strife892> ThinkT510: Rebootin'.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> Apollonovich: i think its just a case of adding the backports repo to your list
[19:19] <fizyplankton> agsu: try ndiswrapper
[19:20] <agsu> While trying it via livecd the driver showed up in three
[19:20] <fizyplankton> agsu: i had to install ndiswrapper to get my wifi working. but it was a usb antenna. not a builting oine
[19:20] <Apollonovich> ThinkT510: wouldn't that automatically make the system get me all available backports, instead of the 1 or 2 I want?
[19:20] <fizyplankton> agsu: if i remember right, ndiswrapper is on the cd, but it doesnt install
[19:20] <alexm1979> Hi everybody. I was wondering if any of you heard about such an error: I am trying to install 10.10 from an USB card (optical not working).  It does not find the hard disk, a WD Raptor 74GB in good working order. Windows, or Ubuntu booted from the stick can see it, but not the installation ...:|   The install does see my other hard drive (win xp o it) wtih no problem but I don't want to use it.  Thanks....
[19:21] <fizyplankton> just google ndiswrapper
[19:21] <tomekh> i've just accidentaly removed /var/apt/cache/archives/partial dir, and now 'apt-get autoremove' doesn't works (i want to clean the system after kernel update). how can i fix this?
[19:21] <agsu> Yes but i managed to install the driver when using live cd
[19:21] <agsu> So it is in there somewhere
[19:21] <fizyplankton> agsu: anything installed while running live is installed toRAM
[19:21] <ThinkT510> Apollonovich: i'm guessing it allows them to be installed via the package manager, not sure if it would automatically count them as updates of older packages though
[19:21] <agsu> I know...
[19:22] <fizyplankton> meaning that the second yyou reboot, it gets deleted
[19:22] <erUSUL> tomekh: sudo mkdir /var/apt/cache/archives/partial
[19:22] <agsu> But the driver is obviously on the cd
[19:22] <fizyplankton> agsu: but ubuntu doesnt install ndiswrapper as part of a standard install
[19:22] <ThinkT510> Apollonovich: heres more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[19:22] <agsu> I dont need ndiswrapper...
[19:23] <Jake2|cfl> anybody: I dl'ed AVG Rescue and burned it. Startup brings a boot: prompt. No menu. How start?
[19:23] <tomekh> erUSUL: you mean /var/cache/apt/... and no, this will not fix the poblem
[19:23] <fizyplankton> what wifi card is it?
[19:23] <tomekh> problem*
[19:23] <agsu> The one that comes with the machine, the wiki says it should work straigth Seat
[19:23] <fizyplankton> agsu: what wifi card is it?
[19:24] <fizyplankton> give me a model number
[19:24] <agsu> Im in ubuntu now and dont have connection
[19:24] <agsu> Typing on phone here
[19:24] <ThinkT510> Apollonovich: it appears you can use pinning in that article to limit which apps get updated
[19:25] <fizyplankton> ??? just give me a model number
[19:25] <soreau> agsu: Show the output of lspci|grep Network
[19:25] <itaylor57> he is on a mac agsu
[19:25] <soreau> itaylor57: ping!
[19:26] <UbuntuN00b> need to split ubuntu install over a hard drive and a sd card whats the best way?
[19:26] <ermac0> there is no current support for bluerays in 10.04 or 10.10 right, you basically have to use dumphd, decode it , and play it with mplayer to get the job done ? I'm sure of it, but does anyone know of method of just playing putting the disc in, and play on the fly on ubuntu.
[19:26] <WhiteP0W3R> hello
[19:26] <agsu> How do i found out the model number on ubuntu?
[19:26] <itaylor57> soreau: soreau pong
[19:26] <fizyplankton> what mac hardware is it? ill just google it and find out the specs on it
[19:27] <WhiteP0W3R> agsu: it's under the control center
[19:27] <fizyplankton> like whats the machine model number (i dont use macs, so i dont know the terminology) tell me like its a dell inspiron 1100, for example, if you had a dell
[19:27] <soreau> itaylor57: I did some research on moonlight and found the development channel on IRC for it. Pointed out the problem and developers had me file a bug report. You can see it here http://bugzilla.novell.com//687591
[19:28] <WhiteP0W3R> macs r 4 fags
[19:28]  * fizyplankton high fives WhiteP0W3R 
[19:28] <itaylor57> soreau: good job I couldn't get it it work at all
[19:28] <WhiteP0W3R> i know because i own one ;)
[19:28] <soreau> itaylor57: Apparently it wont be fixed very soon, but at least they are aware of it and acknowledged the issue
[19:28]  * fizyplankton sucker punches WhiteP0W3R 
[19:29]  * WhiteP0W3R sticks rubber fist in his anus
[19:29] <soreau> itaylor57: ie. Apparently they werent previously aware of the problem
[19:29] <fizyplankton> agsu: what is the model number of the mac machine itself?
[19:29] <UbuntuN00b> need to split ubuntu install over a hard drive and a sd card whats the best way?
[19:29] <fizyplankton> UbuntuN00b: im assuming you want to keeep docs on the flash card?
[19:30] <semitones> how is grubb formed?
[19:30] <semitones> specifically, how and when and why do I need to update-grub
[19:30] <soreau> WhiteP0W3R: That is entire off topic discussion for this channel
[19:30] <UbuntuN00b> yeah i was thinking internal (8gb) (root and swap) and then flash card (/home) ?\
[19:30] <soreau> ! ot | WhiteP0W3R
[19:30] <agsu> It is the mid 2010...
[19:31] <semitones> that nick is o4o even..
[19:31] <elementz_> semitones: ?
[19:31] <WhiteP0W3R> What kind of a racist person would leet his own name like WhiteP0W3R
[19:31] <fizyplankton> UbuntuN00b: you should be able to mount the /home directory to the flash drive. the only problem is that it wont be hot swappable
[19:32] <UbuntuN00b> meaning? (ther are 2 sd cards slots in the netbook) (so i don't ever have to take this one out)
[19:32] <dlbike76> How can I log off if the entire gnome-panel is not being displayed?
[19:33] <WhiteP0W3R> I had a swap orgy with my boyfriend yesterday and we also had a good time figuring out how to install packages on ubuntu
[19:33] <WhiteP0W3R> sudo apt-get
[19:33] <rumpe1> dlbike76, alt-f2, "sudo service gdm restart"   *perhaps*
[19:33] <fizyplankton> if you want hotswappability, try an rsync script to auto sync /home on all your computers with /media/sdcard when its available
[19:33] <plouffe> dlbike76, right click on desktop works?
[19:33] <semitones> !o4o this is what it means > elementz
[19:33] <WhiteP0W3R> fizyplankton i'll hotswappablify uyou any day!
[19:33] <UbuntuN00b> nah this is my only ubuntu machine
[19:34] <xvanray> hi
[19:34] <semitones> !o4o > elementz
[19:34] <wizonesolutions> Hey all, so I've got a large file (2.1G) in a Bazaar repository that's giving an input/output error when I try to run md5sum on it. e2fsck -fp /dev/sda1 came back without any errors, just a wee bit of fragmentation. What is the next step to figure out what's wrong with this file?
[19:34] <WhiteP0W3R> !ops Please ban WhiteP0WER
[19:34] <dlbike76> plouffe: No, right clicking on the desktop does not work.  Alt-F2 does work though.
[19:34] <WhiteP0W3R> !ops
[19:34] <fizyplankton> im not sure why ud want /home on the card them. if you want it to act kind of like a portable harddrive, that wont work. windows cannot read EXT filesystems
[19:34] <wizonesolutions> I'm guessing there are no larger disk probs since e2fsck came back clean, but not sure...
[19:35] <WhiteP0W3R> I wanna get banned, this is not fair
[19:35] <Strife892> ThinkT510: No luck. :(
[19:35] <elementz> semitones: k
[19:35] <wizonesolutions> filesystem is ext3
[19:35] <UbuntuN00b> i don't want it as a hard driive, i just figure it will be fast to have /home on the sd card so it all the programs can be installed on /
[19:35] <daedaluz> what was that sane interface for configuring gnome again?
[19:36] <ThinkT510> Strife892: pity, sorry i can't help anymore, don't have much experience with atheros wifi, mine are all intel
[19:36] <soreau> Strife892: What is the problem?
[19:37] <knight_> hi is anyone here
[19:37] <knight_> is anyone here
[19:37] <fizyplankton> yeah
[19:37] <wizonesolutions> also smartctl -H /dev/sda1 shows "PASSED"
[19:38] <knight_> is anyone here using ubuntu 11.04?
[19:38] <fizyplankton> not many people are
[19:38] <soreau> Strife892: Does iwconfig show a wlan0 interface?
[19:38] <soreau> ! 11.04 | knight_
[19:38] <Mimosita_26> j#serverzone
[19:38] <itaylor57> knight_: #ubuntu+1 for natty
[19:38] <knight_> dang that sucks i have a problem lol
[19:39] <Mimosita_26> hello for everybody
[19:39] <agsu> So my network card model is BCM43xx, does that help?
[19:39] <Strife892> soreau: I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a laptop (an HP G60) whose original HDD died. Most of the hardware is working, but the wireless adapter is persistently disabled.
[19:39] <soreau> ! broadcom | agsu
[19:39] <semitones> so when do you have to run update-grub?
[19:39] <soreau> Strife892: Does iwconfig show a wlan0 interface?
[19:39] <Strife892> soreau: Yes.
[19:39] <hp> Strife892,  go system - administration - additional drivers
[19:39] <soreau> semitones: After any additional operating system installs
[19:40] <soreau> Strife892: Does this show APs? sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:40] <hp> Strife892,  try and see if you see drivers for wireless there
[19:40] <daedaluz> Strife892: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[19:40] <semitones> soreau, what about kernel upgrades
[19:40] <knight_> i have a question about wine that even happened in ubuntu 10.10
[19:40] <soreau> daedaluz: Why would you bring down the interfaces?
[19:40] <fizyplankton> agsu: ndiswrapper is indeed confirmed to work with that wifi card
[19:40] <daedaluz> replace down with up on latter one, sorry
[19:40] <Strife892> soreau: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[19:41] <Strife892> hp: No dice there. It was one of the first things I tried.
[19:41] <soreau> Strife892: Is this an HP laptop by chance?
[19:41] <daedaluz> soreau: if the driver is acting weird
[19:41] <Strife892> soreau: Yes, an HP G60
[19:41] <soreau> daedaluz: That will not help its already down
[19:41] <soreau> Strife892: Alright, i just helped someone with this problem the other day, sec
[19:41] <daedaluz> soreau: in that case sudo ifconfig wlan0 up should force it on at least
[19:41] <agsu> But what confuses me is i saw the driver in additional drivers when running from live-cd, why cant i see it after installing?
[19:41] <knight_> well i guess its not really wine but the ati graphics card. when i activate it and i try to play the tetris lke game its flickers
[19:42] <soreau> Strife892: Can you show the output of sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[19:42] <soreau> daedaluz: It wont in this case because there is a module that isnt loaded by defaukt, needed to enable the wifi card
[19:42] <eoss> why would i be able to ping computer b  from computer a and it be successful, but not ping computer a from computer b and it fail? (same network) (all firewall disabled)
[19:43] <Mimosita_26> anyone could help to me, please?
[19:43] <daedaluz> awww... broadcom I assume, just trash the laptop and sue the company in that case
[19:43] <Strife892> soreau: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[19:43] <soreau> daedaluz: No its atheros. please be patient
[19:43] <soreau> Strife892: Ok hang on
[19:43] <Strife892> soreau: Hang on, that is undoubtedly due to another solution I attempted
[19:43] <compdoc> Mimosita_26, you havent told us your problem
[19:43] <Mimosita_26> thank u compdoc...
[19:43] <Mimosita_26> thank u for nothing
[19:44] <cl0se> Having trouble disabling screen saver 100% from the command line...
[19:44] <Starminn> !attitude | Mimosita_26
[19:44] <cl0se> anyone know how?
[19:44] <fizyplankton> agsu: for the last time. the ubuntu doesnt install all the drivers found on the cd. why? i dont know. it just doesnt. the live cd has more drivers than the fully installed one does. it. just. does.
[19:44] <soreau> Strife892: No it isnt
[19:44] <rumpe1> Strife892, is the wlan-hardware-switch activated? else check output of "rfkill list"
[19:44] <soreau> Strife892: You are missing a kernel module
[19:45] <Strife892> rumpe1: The light on the button is orange. Always orange.
[19:45] <agsu> Ok, thats all i wanted to know, just seemed odd :)
[19:45] <phux> how can i find the java jdk api in my filesystem?
[19:45] <Mimosita_26> my question is easy, where am i???
[19:45] <soreau> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[19:45] <Mimosita_26> who is it???
[19:45] <agsu> Thanks for the help fizyplankton
[19:45] <Strife892> rumpe1: 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[19:45] <Strife892> 	Soft blocked: no
[19:45] <Strife892> 	Hard blocked: yes
[19:45] <compdoc> lol
[19:45] <Strife892> soreau: Ah, waiting then.
[19:45] <Starminn> !topic | Mimosita_26
[19:45] <Mimosita_26> oh so dificult to me the english...
[19:46] <rumpe1> Strife892, there you are... its hard blocked. Reboot, try to activate it in BIOS ...
[19:46] <itilious> is there a native setting somehwere in ubuntu i can change to make the "close/min/max" window controls to make them bigger?
[19:46] <Mimosita_26> yes but iḿ spanish and not speak english very well
[19:46] <Starminn> !spanish | Mimosita_26
[19:46] <soreau> Strife892: First try this: rfkill unblock wifi
[19:46] <Strife892> rumpe1: I looked in the BIOS setup already. There is no option there. Pressing the switch button doesn't work either.
[19:46] <Strife892> soreau: No noticable effect.
[19:46] <rypervenche> I have recently been having problems with ibus. It is showing up on the wrong part of my panel and when I start using an IME it shows that red circle with a slash in it meaning there's no picture for that specific IME. Also I cannot switch between IMEs.
[19:47] <Mimosita_26> buf so dificult
[19:47] <rumpe1> Strife892, i also have a laptop with similar issue. shut down comletely. the start ubuntu and check, if it is still hard locked.
[19:47] <soreau> Strife892: Now does this show any output? lsmod|grep  hp-wmi
[19:47] <soreau> Strife892: Now does this show any output? lsmod|grep hp-wmi
[19:47] <Strife892> soreau: No.
[19:47] <Infame> ThinkT510, reinstalling did wonders :D. Didn't know you could use the Ubuntu CD for throubleshooting like this.. :o
[19:48] <soreau> Strife892: Ok, you need to load this module. Do it with sudo modprobe hp-wmi
[19:48] <Chris___> could someone help me get my mouse functioning correctly? In short, because the left and right click buttons are also a part of the touch pad, they're being mapped as a part of the touch pad itself and not as button; therefore, I have no right click, and if I had one finger on the left click and one finger on the touchpad, the mouse freaks out.
[19:48] <ThinkT510> !yay | Infame
[19:48] <Strife892> soreau: Still no noticable output.
[19:48] <rumpe1> soreau, its hard locked
[19:48] <Infame> THanks ;)¨
[19:48] <Strife892> soreau: I tried the instructions in this post, for reference. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10023336&postcount=11
[19:48] <soreau> Strife892: Now run rfkill unblock all and try to enable the card with the switch
[19:49] <soreau> Strife892: After this, try to bring up the interface again with sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:49] <quup> anyone know how I can get videos on vbs.tv working or how I can just rip it and play with mplayer?   with 64bit plugin it wont play at all, with 32bit plugin it will play for about 3min and then freeze
[19:49] <Strife892> soreau: Still orange, but looking at the network manager, it now says "disconnected", not "disabled".
[19:50] <Strife892> Bingo!
[19:50] <soreau> Strife892: Great, now do sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:50] <Strife892> Might disconnect briefly
[19:50] <soreau> Strife892: Ok now we have to make it permanent
[19:50] <Strife892> soreau: The network manager now shows some networks.
[19:50] <Strife892> Without doing the CLI scan. :)
[19:50] <soreau> Strife892: Great but it will be broken again next time you reboot
[19:50] <Strife892> Yes.
[19:50] <soreau> I will tell you how to make it permanent
[19:51] <Strife892> soreau: Okay, I'm listening. :)
[19:51] <soreau> rumpe1: ubuntu doesnt load the hp-wmi module needed for it to work
[19:51] <soreau> Strife892: Run gksu gedit /etc/modules and add hp-wmi on a single line by itself (at the end of the file)
[19:51] <soreau> Strife892: Then save it and reboot to test
[19:51] <vodkus> hey im a bit lost, im trying to get help with some C++ but cant find a populated c++ channel, anyone know of won?
[19:51] <vodkus> one*
[19:51] <Infame> Question: On"additional Drivers" (LiveCD) it finds the network driver, but not on the installed Ubuntu?
[19:52] <soreau> vodkus: /j ##c++
[19:52] <soreau> Infame: For what hardware?
[19:52] <Strife892> soreau: Alright, rebooting.
[19:52] <soreau> Strife892: ok
[19:53] <philsf> pidgin stores configs and logs in ~/.purple. where does empathy store such files?
[19:54] <Infame> Hardware?
 Question: On"additional Drivers" (LiveCD) it finds the network driver, but not on the installed Ubuntu? <-- what network hardware are you referring to?
[19:55] <KNUBBIG> Hi, I got my problem down to Ubuntu not being able to read/discover Windows 7 dynamic volumes. Does anybody know if that is possible or has any1 tried something like that?
[19:55] <Strife892> soreau: Success! :D
[19:56] <soreau> Strife892 :D
[19:56] <Strife892> soreau: Thanks!
[19:56] <soreau> Strife892: No problem
[19:56] <Strife892> Alright, time to get this thing back to its owner. :)
[19:56] <soreau> lol
[19:56] <soreau> Strife892: I accept donations ;)
[19:56] <Strife892> :P
[19:57] <Strife892> soreau: I'll speak to you later about it ;P
[19:57] <Strife892> In the meantime,
[19:58] <seanzy> can someone help me work out a sound problem. my usb sound card show up with lsusb but not in sound preferences
[19:58] <soreau> ! sound | seanzy
[19:58] <sunil_> hi i need to make project based on linux...can anyone tell where i can start?
[19:58] <soreau> sunil_: What kind of project?
[19:58] <apocalyptiq> How can I set some environment variable not only for session, but for ever?
[19:59] <apocalyptiq> export VAR=value works for one session for me
[19:59] <uglyandstupid> bonsoir
[19:59] <uglyandstupid> oops
[19:59] <uglyandstupid> hi
[19:59] <sunil_> soreau.....any but will be based on linux....
[19:59] <ThinkT510> apocalyptiq: add it to your ~/.profile
[19:59] <uglyandstupid> anyone know where i can find old releases of ubuntu ? i'm looking for ubuntu 9.04
[20:00] <itaylor57> apocalyptiq: put in ./.bashrc
[20:00] <soreau> cellardoor: Dont ask in a channel then leave 3 seconds later please
[20:00] <vaxinated> apocalyptiq:put the VAR definition in your .profile login script.
[20:00] <soreau> cellardoor: If you want to come back to #compiz, I will try to help you but you have to be patient
[20:00] <itaylor57> apocalyptiq: put in /.bashrc
[20:00] <ilaggoodly> hi i'm using ubuntu 10.10 in a dual boot with win7. I turned off file indexing on two of my hard drives in windows, and when i tried to boot into ubuntu it would just hang at the gdm login screen
[20:00] <ilaggoodly> i resolved it by removing them from fstab
[20:00] <soreau> sunil_: So you want to build a linux distribution?
[20:01] <ilaggoodly> but i'd rather have them there :/
[20:02] <seanzy> the device doesn't show up with sudo aplay -l
[20:02] <sunil_> soreau----yeah ... but i don't know from where i have to start...
[20:03] <seanzy> it worked before
[20:04] <guest_> when tring to update i had the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-data_2.6.8-2ubuntu1.2_all.deb: unable to stat `./usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps' (which I was about to install)
[20:04] <guest_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp_2.6.8-2ubuntu1.2_i386.deb: unable to securely remove '/usr/share/pixmaps/gimp.xpm.dpkg-new' Which seems to be persistent
[20:04] <ChessTeach> I don't think that I have a swap partition, I am looking at the disk utility and the partition that I created to serve as a swap is not mounted nor does it give any indication that it is a swap. Can someone help me verify that this is correct?
[20:05] <Infame> How to install wireless driver for Lenovo G656?
[20:06] <ChessTeach> anyone?
[20:06] <aguitel> how to convert tiff to jpg ?
[20:07] <Infame> How to install wireless driver for Lenovo G656?
[20:07] <adrian_kx> is proprietary ati drivers broken in beta 2?
[20:07] <jetsaredim> is there an easy way to clean out my cups configuration without totally hosing the install?
[20:08] <ChessTeach> aguitel: i think this will work http://zamzar.com/
[20:08] <adrian_kx> onestly instead of stable than beta1 lots of thing are broken that wasnt before
[20:08] <ayecee> aguitel: maybe load the tiff into an image editor program, then save it as a jpg
[20:08] <ThinkT510> adrian_kx: 11.04 support is only in #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <sunil_> anyone can guide me to make project on linux?
[20:09] <ayecee> aguitel: if you want to do it from commandline, you'd probably need to install the imagemagick tools, not sure of the package name
[20:09] <ThinkT510> sunil_: lookup linux from scratch
[20:09] <ayecee> sunil_: what do you need to know?
[20:10] <loculinux> xxxxx
[20:10] <apocalyptiq> vaxinated, thanks!
[20:10] <hawke_> Hi all…how do I get my Pidgin sytem tray icon back in Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:10] <somewhereinthewi> what s up! can someone help on mounting an ubuntu root.disk
[20:11] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | hawke_
[20:11] <tuhin> is there any software which will make mirror of a folder in schedule ?
....actually i have to made a project for my college based on linux.....it can be any but based on linux...
[20:11] <ChessTeach> I am trying to delete a partition, that is not mounted and it is giving me an error saying that the drive is busy, how can it be busy if it isn't mounted?
[20:11] <hawke_> ThinkT510: Thanks.
[20:11] <ayecee> sunil_: what kind of project?
[20:12] <aguitel> ayecee, a ok thanks
[20:12] <Guest46291> hello, noob ere...is there any easier way to install libreoffice such as sudo atp-get ?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> Guest46291: libreoffice is available in PPA form i think, or you can wait until 11.04, it replaces openoffice there
[20:14] <Guest46291> is that natty?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> Guest46291: yes
[20:15] <rww> !libreoffice
[20:15] <Guest46291> ahh..ok better to wait then :)
[20:16] <sunil_> ayecee.....making a project on IRC.
[20:16] <ayecee> sunil_: what kind of project is that?
[20:16] <Infame> How to install wireless driver for Lenovo G656?
[20:16] <apocalyptiq> vaxinated, hm, i've added "EDITOR='vim'" to my .profile. but still when i open new console window, i have old editor :/
[20:17] <sunil_> it is internat relay chat.....thts work on linux...
[20:18] <ayecee> sunil_: i've heard of irc. what does that have to do with your project?
[20:19] <norbert> siema
[20:19] <sunil_> ayecee...I didn't get you.
[20:19] <gimpy6471> For the System Monitor applet that you can add to gnome's panel, it keeps dieing.  Anyone know of a way to restart it?
[20:19] <norbert> i am polish
[20:19] <ThinkT510> !pl | norbert
[20:19] <ayecee> sunil_: I feel the same way.
[20:20] <Infame> How to install wireless driver for Lenovo G656?
[20:20] <chotaz> Hello everyone, I got an GNS webcam, and I've recently started using ubuntu as my main OS, how can I know if the Os is detecting the webcam?
[20:20] <ayecee> Infame: it often helps to rephrase your question if you don't get an answer the first few repeats.
[20:20] <gimpy6471> chotaz: Try lsusb
[20:21] <sunil_> ayecee....yeah i have to do this project.....or you can recommend any apart from this.
[20:21] <agsu> I followed the instructions @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but the driver doesent appear in additional drivers
[20:21] <Infame> Fine. How do one generally aquire a wireless driver for Ubuntu to use the wireless internet feature...?
[20:21] <ayecee> sunil_: I don't understand what you mean by project.
[20:21] <agsu> Any ideas anyone?
[20:21] <chotaz> gimpy6471:  almost all deviced show as Linux Foun... root hub but my mouse and external hdd
[20:21] <chotaz> gimpy6471: yet, one of the deviced show up without a name(?)
[20:22] <Infame> On liveCD, I can easly get the driver by clicking on "Additional Drivers"
[20:22] <vaxinated> apocalyptiq: u need to include "export EDITOR" in .profile
[20:22] <ayecee> Infame: most drivers are built in. Some drivers can be loaded in the Hardware Drivers option in System->Administration. If that doesn't work, the next step would be to find out what kind of driver is required for your card.
[20:22] <agsu> Infame, i have the same problem...
[20:22] <sunil_> ayecee..okay leave that...can you tell me..if want to make irc...like Xchat..then where i have to start?
[20:23] <chotaz> gimpy6471: and it disappears when I disconencted the webcam, I guess thats it, my problem now is that the webcam has a light which should go on when connected to a computer and it isnt on.
[20:23] <agsu> The drivers are only in live cd moderni
[20:23] <agsu> *moderni
[20:23] <Infame> But when I try on my install, I get this message when searching: Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network stats. Most drivers will not me available...
[20:23] <agsu> Ffff...
[20:23] <ayecee> sunil_: you would like to write an irc client? do I understand now?
[20:23] <gimpy6471> chotaz: Try to use the webcam, Cheese (a webcam app) is a good start.
[20:23] <agsu> Infame: Me too :)
[20:23] <zombiez> hi all
[20:23] <sunil_> ayecee....yeah now you get it...
[20:24] <ayecee> sunil_: what language do you intend to write it with?
[20:24] <Infame> agsu: if you're lucky enough to find an resolution, mind PMing me?
[20:24] <ayecee> sunil_: for instance, C, C++, java, perl, shell script
[20:24] <zombiez> which would be a good room to discuss issues on ubuntu + mobile broadband ? any sugg?
[20:24] <ThinkT510> Infame: can you use a wired connection temporarily to install the wireless driver?
[20:24] <agsu> Infame: I will
[20:25] <Infame> Only through Live CD ThinkT510...
[20:25] <zombiez> which would be a good room to discuss issues on ubuntu + mobile broadband ? any sugg?
[20:25] <erUSUL> this one
[20:25] <sunil_> ayecee.....so i need all these languages?...or anyone?
[20:25] <rypervenche> Where can I find where ibus-daemon starts? When I start my system it is messed up, so I have to kill it and restart it myself. How can I change the command that starts it automatically?
[20:25] <reivanen> is this or some other chan for natty questions?
[20:26] <ayecee> reivanen: #ubuntu+1 is for natty
[20:26] <reivanen> thanks
[20:26] <Obsidian1723> How can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup? (Preferably using: /sbin/syslogd -u syslog ) I'm running 10.04.2LTS 32-bit.
[20:26] <zombiez> I have a tata indicom photon + mobile broadband connection  ..the device is manufactured by Olive
[20:26] <ayecee> sunil_: have you written a program before? If so, what language did you use?
[20:26] <sunil_> ayecee...java
[20:26] <Infame> THinkT510, is there a way to 'extract' the wireless driver from LiveCD to the installed ubuntu, somehow?
[20:26] <zombiez> works well but speeds ares < 30 Kbps in linux
[20:27] <zombiez> no clue why its so sluggish in linux
[20:27] <zombiez> anyone have any tips?
[20:27] <somewhereinthewi> why does this hard drive i have work better under windows than ubuntu?
[20:27] <sunil_> ayecee....I am new in it...so don't know what api's should i used and what the things neccesary to make it.
[20:27] <ayecee> sunil_: okay. next step is to get a description of the irc protocol. It's in RFC1459, and there's a copy here: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/rfc.html
[20:27] <zombiez> i'm using nm-applet to connect .. it  provide any baud settings etc ..
[20:28] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: Define better, and what filesystem does it use, NTFS?
[20:28] <ayecee> sunil_: you will need to understand how to make tcp connections in java. Beyond that, there is no API.
[20:28] <UbuntuN00b> just insallled ubunut restarted as now at grub rescue prompt
[20:28] <UbuntuN00b> anyone have any ideas
[20:28] <ThinkT510> Infame: there should be a way to download it, put it on a usb stick then install the driver, but i'm not sure how
[20:29] <sunil_> ayecee...you mean the socket programming?
[20:29] <ayecee> sunil_: yes
[20:29] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471: it uses ntfs with ubuntu i always get to that busybox after earing click noises with spin stop
[20:29] <Infame> Too bad, ThinkT510
[20:30] <mih1406> Hi, I am learning C++ since a year but I have not started any project yet! I do not know why I cannot I always face problems!
[20:30] <mih1406> I am self-learning using books!
[20:30] <sunil_> ayecee....i have little knowledge about socket programming.....so is there any guidance which can help me to learn socket programming and i short demo that howz its work
[20:30] <mih1406> Is there a better way?
[20:31] <ayecee> sunil_: java programming questions are out of scope for this channel. Is there a java channel?
[20:31] <Starminn> ayecee: #java
[20:31] <ayecee> sunil_: there we go, try #java. Maybe they can suggests some resources for socket programming in java.
[20:32] <chotaz> gimpy6471:  cheese says no webcam was detected :s
[20:32] <ayecee> mih1406: a better way than what?
[20:32] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: I don't understand the problem, can you access it in Ubuntu but it is just slower than Windows?
[20:32] <chotaz> gimpy6471: but lsusb detected it
[20:32] <mih1406> than reading books and applying
[20:32] <sunil_> ayecee.......the site you provide is not opening.
[20:32] <ayecee> mih1406: some people prefer formal education, but that also involves reading books and applying
[20:33] <ayecee> sunil_: it is not a website, it is an irc channel
[20:33] <ayecee> sunil_: type /join #java
[20:33] <Starminn> ayecee: Actually it's ##java but both should work. ;)
[20:33] <mih1406> is there a C++ channel?
[20:33] <sunil_> ayecee...no the site you provide before ...http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/
[20:34] <Infame> agsu, got it working ;)
[20:34] <Starminn> mih1406: #c++
[20:34] <Infame> DAMNIT
[20:34] <Infame> xD
[20:34] <mih1406> thanks
[20:34] <ayecee> sunil_: you did not copy the whole url
[20:34] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471: when i install ubuntueverything goes fine for the first,second or third day, after that i ear click sounds that freeze system for a while and then im not able to get in to the system
[20:34] <marfu20> ubuntu en español?
[20:34] <mha_> not familiar with ubuntu, need to list all installed kernels and remove them but keep one, how?
[20:34] <Starminn> !spanish | marfu20
[20:35] <Heylookitsbret> im trying to extract a tar, and everytime i type "tar -vxf alsa-driver-1.0.20.tar.gz" it comes back with "Cannot open: No such file or directory
[20:35] <Heylookitsbret> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[20:35] <Heylookitsbret> "
[20:35] <Kyle__> I have a fresh install of 10.10, command-line only system, on a mac-mini.  The system has a core2-duo processor, but only one processor is showing up.
[20:35] <ayecee> Heylookitsbret: try "tar -vxzf"
[20:35] <Kyle__> Any ideas?
[20:35] <sunil_> ayecee..i tried the whole..http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/rfc.html...but its still not opening..
[20:36] <ayecee> sunil_: what happens when you try?
[20:36] <gimpy6471> chotaz: lsusb just checks the device, it sounds like Ubuntu can't really use it though since the application doesn't find it. I don't work with webcams enough to know where to go from there other than asking for more help here and Google.
[20:36] <zombiez> I have a tata indicom photon + mobile broadband connection  ..the device is manufactured by Olive
[20:36] <sunil_> ayecee...problem loading page
[20:36] <zombiez> works well but speeds ares < 30 Kbps in linux
[20:36] <zombiez> anyone have any tips?
[20:37] <mha_> how to remove extra kernels?
[20:37] <ayecee> sunil_: okay, try http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459
[20:37] <zombiez> anyone have any tips?
[20:37] <zombiez> I have a tata indicom photon + mobile broadband connection  ..the device is manufactured by Olive
[20:37] <zombiez> works well but speeds ares < 30 Kbps in linux
[20:37] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: Sure sounds like a hardware issue.  Run an fsck on the disk.  If it is your boot drive you'll need to do it from the LiveCD.  Read the man page of fsck before you do it, you can destroy if if you do it wrong.
[20:37] <ayecee> zombiez: your irc client might be broken, it seems to be repeating what you say very frequently.
[20:38] <ayecee> zombiez: it may help to disconnect and reconnect later.
[20:38] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471: do you think a fsck can repair it?
[20:39] <zombiez> ayecee, any place i can get help on mobile broadmand in linux?
[20:39] <ayecee> zombiez: none come to mind
[20:39] <sunil_> ayecee....it's working.....
[20:39] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: tar: Child returned status 2
[20:39] <Heylookitsbret> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[20:39] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471: right know i have a wubi installation on which im not able to access ubuntu anymore
[20:40] <sunil_> ayecee....did you know how to use protocols of IRC in socket programming?
[20:41] <ayecee> sunil_: yes, but programming questions are not proper for this channel.
[20:41] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471:i did a check with windows although and it freezzes at 74%
[20:41] <Tyrnis> plop all
[20:41] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: Ah, wubi...I know nothing about it.  Anyone else here able to help?
[20:41] <ayecee> Heylookitsbret: weird. does the file exist?
[20:42] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471:i had the same click noise with wubi too
[20:42] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471:i had the same click noise without wubi too
[20:42] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: Window's chkdsk takes time, if it stalls and doesn't move for an hour I'd bet the disk is dead and it's time to buy a new one.
[20:42] <sunil_> ayecee....then how i will find about...if you let me know some website regarding this>
[20:43] <ayecee> sunil_: I do not have any websites memorized, I would have to use google to find one
[20:43] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: you know what i think i had the wrong extension give me a min
[20:43] <ayecee> sunil_: however, there is a irc channel for java. To enter it, type /join #java
[20:43] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471:i guess the disk is not good. but with works much better with windows where i only heard one click
[20:44] <gimpy6471> somewhereinthewi: Number of clicks means nothing.  You can try to download harddrive testing software from the manufac (e.g. Western Digial) and see what that says.  It will physically check the sectors of the drive.
[20:45] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471:one thing i like in ubuntu is when using net disk is much quieter than on windows
[20:46] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471 : on windows even with the page is totally loaded you still hear disk activity
[20:46] <djm62> how can I find out which udev rules would match a device? I have the device - is there some utility which will list them all?
[20:47] <djm62> it's a usb networking dongle
[20:47] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471 : thanks for the tips i will try to test using software manufacturer
[20:48] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee:so after i extracted it, i typed ./configure and it says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[20:48] <Heylookitsbret> "
[20:48] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927270 that is what im working on
[20:48] <ayecee> Heylookitsbret: is there a file named configure in the directory?
[20:49] <sunil> ayecee..... thnx for your information..
[20:49] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: yea its in there
[20:49] <ayecee> Heylookitsbret: does this work? sh ./configure
[20:49] <somewhereinthewi> gimpy6471 : i will try ubuntu 8.04 wich i used time ago.
[20:49] <Chris___> could someone help me get my mouse functioning correctly? In short, because the left and right click buttons are also a part of the touch pad, they're being mapped as a part of the touch pad itself and not as button; therefore, I have no right click, and if I had one finger on the left click and one finger on the touchpad, the mouse freaks out.
[20:50] <cl0se> Chris___, define "freaks out" ?
[20:50] <somewhereinthewi> why is ubuntu always upgrading?
[20:50] <Chris___> cl0se: goes all over the screen sporaddically, as if you were trying to control a touchpad mouse with two fingers
[20:50] <ayecee> somewhereinthewi: I don't understand what you're asking.
[20:51] <alpha_> after upgrade to Natty, how can I automatically upgrade my PPAs as well?
[20:51] <ayecee> alpha_: natty is supported in #ubuntu+1 only
[20:51] <cl0se> Chris___, can you disable the touchpad in BIOS, and use the mouse properly? THis may help troubleshooting
[20:52] <alpha_> ayecee, this is a general question for every upgrade, but ok
[20:52] <Chris___> cl0se: it's a laptop. if I disable the touchpad, what mouse am I supposed to use?
[20:52] <linuxrealm> please help, i am loading 10.10 32bit Maverick Desktop onto a laptop. I get this purple screen, with two symbols at the bottom. then the screen goes blank, and the install goes no further... what does this mean?
[20:52] <ayecee> Chris___: a mouse plugged into a usb port, if you have one
[20:52] <cl0se> Chris___, I misunderstood. I thought you were using an external mouse and having the issues when it and the touchpad were having issues
[20:53] <sunil> type /join #java
[20:53] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: nothing works unless i cd into the folder, but i dont think it does anything
[20:53] <linuxrealm> there is a flashing cursor now,,, thats it
[20:53] <ayecee> Heylookitsbret: I don't understand what you mean
[20:53] <linuxrealm> please help, i am loading 10.10 32bit Maverick Desktop onto a laptop. I get this purple screen, with two symbols at the bottom. then the screen goes blank, and the install goes no further... what does this mean? there is a flashing cursor now,,, thats it, and the cdrom stopped spinning.... suggestions? it looks like its reading it....
[20:54] <Chris___> cl0se: ah, no. the touchpad's L and R click buttons are also a part of the touchpad itself, so to L click with my thumb while using my index finger to scroll with the touchpad, it spazzes out seeing "multi touch" and not ignoring my thumb on the L click button
[20:54] <Chris___> ayecee: I can at home, but on the go, that's not a realistic option for me
[20:54] <somewhereinthewi> ayecee : so many versions. will an older version work better in an older computer?
[20:54] <cl0se> Chris___, please type "lsusb" and see if your touchpad is listed in there
[20:55] <ayecee> somewhereinthewi: sometimes, yes. Using the most recent LTS release will ensure that you don't have to upgrade as often. The most recent LTS was 10.04, I believe.
[20:55] <Chris___> cl0se: just a moment, I'll need to reboot into linux, was using windows to skype with the girlfriend. brb.
[20:55] <cl0se> roger that, Chris___
[20:56] <treebeen> Chris___: hmm, skype doesn't work on linux for you?
[20:56] <sunil> if i forgot my password of ubuntu then how can i recover it?
[20:56] <swatto> Does anyone know how I can assign the windows key to open terminal please? When I press it in keyboard shorcuts it doesnt register it unless i press it in combination with something else?
[20:56] <Heylookitsbret> ayecee: if i follow the directions, it says no such file or directory until i go into the actual folder itself then it runs all sorts of checks and tells me please install the package with full kernel sources for your dist.. or use --with-kernal=dir to specify another directory with kernal sources and states the defualt
[20:56] <somewhereinthewi> ayecee : don t understand your answer.
[20:57] <Binny> should running update-manager -d update me from natty narwhal beta 1 to 2?
[20:57] <cl0se> swatto, Just open System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts and scroll down to Run a terminal Double click it and press the windows key.
[20:58] <alpha_> swatto, windows key is a modifier, so you have to use it with something else
[20:58] <somewhereinthewi> are ubuntu versions incompatible?
[20:58] <alpha_> swatto, I mean it's possible to do it with some X magic, but not worth the effort
[20:59] <Uncle|Sam> I wanted to upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 (desktop) to ubuntu 11.04 (beta) on my notebook. I tried doing this with running "update-manager -d" but it tells me every time (translated from germany): "Authentication check failed" - Any idea how to get the beta?
[20:59] <alpha_> swatto, just use Win-T or sth
[20:59] <sunil> Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only).....what is mean of that?
[20:59] <alpha_> Uncle|Sam, which password did you use?
[21:00] <Uncle|Sam> alpha_ password?
[21:00] <MaRk-I> linuxrealm: try this see if it helps http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[21:00] <erUSUL> sunil: /join ##java
[21:00] <alpha_> Uncle|Sam, well, you said that there is an authentication error
[21:00] <Chris___> treebeen: the webcam doesn't have nearly as good video quality, and the mic gives me a lot of issues
[21:00] <erUSUL> sunil: note the two dashes
[21:00] <alpha_> Uncle|Sam, did you run it with sudo?
[21:00] <linuxrealm> MaRk thanks
[21:00] <linuxrealm> ill check that out
[21:01] <Uncle|Sam> maybe "check for originality failed" is a better translation, sry
[21:01] <Chris___> cl0se: I don't see anything about my mouse in 'lsusb', I can pastebin you what cat /proc/bus/input/devices says about my mouse
[21:01] <Uncle|Sam> alpha_ yes i did, but i allways get the same error
[21:01] <sunil> erUSUL: it's not working
[21:02] <erUSUL> sunil: i had no problems
[21:02] <alpha_> Uncle|Sam, even after entering the correct password?
[21:02] <ayecee> erUSUL: what is channel mode +r? does that mean you have to be registered?
[21:02] <Chris___> cl0se: `cat /proc/bus/input/devices` in regards to my mouse - http://paste.honk-honk.org/236
[21:03] <erUSUL> ayecee: aye
[21:03] <erUSUL> !register | sunil
[21:03] <Uncle|Sam> yes, it starts and tells me "11.04 available" -> i press the upgrade button, get a message that this is a beta -> proceed
[21:03] <ayecee> sunil: you will have to register your nick before you can join the java channel.
[21:03] <Uncle|Sam> but after downloading 2 files (no idea what he loads) i get this error
[21:05] <muay-guy> hey guys, I'm having some issues with my eeepc, No sound whatsoever
[21:05] <muay-guy> everything else works fine
[21:06] <alpha_> muay-guy, just to be sure, have you checked alsamixer?
[21:07] <muay-guy> alpha_, yeah, and I'm in pavucontrol now, and the bar is moving and all but I hear no sound
[21:08] <Uncle|Sam> alpha_ if i start it from console it tell me (tried to translate): false signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" <-- can this be a reason why it is not working?
[21:10] <linuxrealm> ok, i set bios to boot flash only. its loading, what i think is the live cd
[21:11] <linuxrealm> actually i cant tell which its loading from as both usb and cdrom are lit lol
[21:11] <MotherMGA> Anyone know how to change the vertical scroll speed on a mouse? I tried:
[21:11] <MotherMGA> xinput --set-prop --type=int --format=8 "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse" "VertScrollDelta" 100
[21:11] <MotherMGA> but that does not work.  from what I can tell from google, no one has found a solution for this in gnome.
[21:12] <linuxrealm> alt-f1 isnt working so it must be a live cd at this moment... more to follow
[21:12] <alpha_> Uncle|Sam, possible
[21:12] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, yes, try finding another download mirror and add that to your sources list
[21:12] <linuxrealm> busybox v1.15.3 statues,,, unitiramfs unable to find medium containing a live file system lol
[21:12] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo where to get one?
[21:13] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, one moment please
[21:13] <linuxrealm> at the (initramfs)  suggestions?
[21:13] <marel> Archive manager doesn't seem to support .r00 format, what are my options here?
[21:14] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo never changed the update server. i use the default update server for german ubuntu de.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <meganerd> marel: depending on what .r00 (I am guessing rar), you can probably extract from the command line
[21:15] <enrylinux> speak italian
[21:15] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, what version are you using?
[21:15] <DJones> !it | enrylinux
[21:15] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo 10.10
[21:15] <Uncle|Sam> desktop
[21:16] <Obsidian1723> How can I get sysklogd to start on system bootup? (Preferably using: /sbin/syslogd -u syslog ) I'm running 10.04.2LTS 32-bit.
[21:16] <linux_> kanenas apo ellada paizi edw?
[21:16] <Naznaz> Hi, does anybody have a good alternative to pidgin for ICQ/Xfire/Skype? Somehow pidgin always freezes for me without giving an error. Thanks
[21:16] <prefrontal> my workstation is FUBAR. using the Maverick live cd there is no Memtest option on bootup. help?
[21:17] <prefrontal> magic keyboard shortcut at the right time?
[21:17] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, well then it should be OK - but it's obviously not! So, if you like, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive
[21:18] <MaRk-I> prefrontal: shift key before boot, you get the kernel options
[21:19] <KNUBBIG> Does anybody have a good alternative to pidgin for ICQ/Xfire/Skype? Somehow pidgin always freezes for me without giving an error. Thanks
[21:19] <MaRk-I> KNUBBIG: for ICQ- xchat, for skype use skype, xfire I have no idea
[21:19] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, sorry, I gave you the wrong link - here's the right one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:20] <KNUBBIG> MaRk-I, hm okay, so no alternative for all-in-one, thanks
[21:20] <xangua> for icq xchat¿¿ :s
[21:20] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo i read and found this link thx ;)
[21:20] <jx-t> Hi, does anyone know how to enable the bindgraph service on maverick?
[21:20] <Heylookitsbret> checking for kernel linux/autoconf.h... no .... whats this mean?
[21:21] <MaRk-I> xangua: irc.icq.com  try ;^)
[21:21] <prefrontal> MaRk-I, shift didn't do the trick
[21:21] <Chris___> could someone help me get my mouse functioning correctly? In short, because the left and right click buttons are also a part of the touch pad, they're being mapped as a part of the touch pad itself and not as button; therefore, I have no right click, and if I had one finger on the left click and one finger on the touchpad, the mouse freaks out.
[21:22] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo is there a command to automatically change all entries in /etc/apt/sources.list or do i have to do that step by step?
[21:22] <hofstadter> MaRk-I irc.icq.com? what is it about?
[21:22] <tjiggi_fo> Uncle|Sam, I don't know it but someone here might
[21:23] <MaRk-I> hofstadter: ICQ chat... IRC style
[21:23] <UbuntuFanatic> Uncle|Sam, GUI or not?
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> Uncle|Sam, Not very specific on that question mate.
[21:24] <Uncle|Sam> yes found it, i have gui
[21:24] <UbuntuFanatic> mmk.
[21:24] <hofstadter> MaRk-I insteresting.. how does it work? /msg UIN *msg* ?
[21:24] <jx-t> Hi, does anyone know how to enable the bindgraph service on maverick?
[21:25] <Uncle|Sam> tjiggi_fo now its woring with main server - thx!!
[21:26] <Heylookitsbret> can anybody help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927270 post #7 i get to the ./configure part and get stuck
[21:26] <MaRk-I> hofstadter: just like here, even mirc'ers play ther
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Without browsing for your point, what's the issue?
[21:28] <cba123> I'm looking for some software for parental controls on Ubuntu.  I've installed "Parental Control" from ubuntu software center, but it requires manually downloaded blacklists.  I was hoping to find something that automatically gets blacklists and all.
[21:28] <poooo> help
[21:29] <Heylookitsbret> i have an acer aspire and the mic isnt working, and this is suppossed to fix it, i run the ./configure and it tells me please install the package with full kernal sources for your distribution
[21:29] <poooo> ubuntu wont install on my 4b6
[21:29] <poooo> help
[21:29] <poooo> ubuntu wont install on my 4b6
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Um...and you don't want to use the "general" IRC chat client packages - like Xchat or otherwise, eh?
[21:29] <poooo> me first
[21:29] <poooo> help
[21:30] <bazhang> poooo, patience
[21:30] <cba123> poooo, patience
[21:30] <poooo> ok bazhang
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Mate, sorry, you said MICROPHONE...I thought you said "mIRC"
[21:30] <poooo> and cba123
[21:30] <joelz> I'm interested in upgrading to 11.04. Is this the right room?
[21:30] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: lol its fine
[21:30] <cba123> poooo, 1st, other people asked before you, 2nd, just repeating the same thing so quick won't get you answers, just people like me and bazhang responding to you
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Um...have you tried to get the proper drivers for your machine/card as opposed to trying to compile a driver?
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[21:31] <bazhang> joelz, #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <FloodBot1> up23four: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <joelz> bazhang, thanks
[21:31] <poooo> I wait sorry cba123
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> joelz:  its still in testing. see #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <gueriLLaPunK> For some reason, I'm having problems with SSHD. I have to restart it everytime I reboot my dedi
[21:31] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: no i havent  i dont have any options in additional drivers
[21:32] <gueriLLaPunK> If I try to ssh in, it says connection refused, but if I reboot it via VNC ans xterm, it works
[21:32] <gueriLLaPunK> ssh, that is
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Either run "jockey-gtk" or click SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => HARDWARE DRIVERS and see what comes up...
[21:32] <jx-t> Hi, does anyone know how to enable the bindgraph service on maverick?
[21:33] <moegreen> anybody out there using a newer nvidia card specifically gtx5 series with ubuntu?
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> gueriLLaPunK:  ssh has the -v and -vv and -vvv (and perhaps more v's) options to show more verbose error messages. check and see whats stoppomg it
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> !info bindgraph
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> seems bind9 is the actual service - if im reading that right. not bindgraph.
[21:33] <gueriLLaPunK> Dr_Willis: it doesnt show anything
[21:34] <gueriLLaPunK> when I type it in xterm
[21:34] <linuxrealm>   /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sdb: no medium found,,, dev's sdb, sdb,  then it takes me to initramfs, unable to find a medium contining a live file   system...
[21:34] <gueriLLaPunK> it just shows me what options I can do. -vv,etc does nothing
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> ssh -v  remotemachine  should give quiet a bit of info. -vv even more so.
[21:34] <jx-t> the bindgraph service is for graphing requests
[21:34] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[21:35] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, And I'll assume you've been through your sound/audio mixer settings and properties?
[21:35] <Heylookitsbret> yup
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> gueriLLaPunK:  thats weird - > 1$ ssh -v localhost
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> gives quiet a bit of output here for me..
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Just bear in mind that if you're going to compile from sources, it's not going to be easy - however, it ain't like it's hard...
[21:36] <poooo> I still wait some more?
[21:36] <jx-t> Dr_Willis: trying to get the bindgraph service to plot dns requests on an already running bind9 install
[21:36] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: yea i know, not intimidated though i like challenges
[21:37] <gueriLLaPunK> Dr_Willis: 1$ command not found
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> gueriLLaPunK:  thats part of the prompt i pasted.. :)
[21:37] <gueriLLaPunK> oo
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Right oh - so you're going to have to get the kernel sources, the "build-essential" packages - then you can start...
[21:38] <wizonesolutions> So I've got a machine with a gig of RAM that I want to serve some sites off...but I would like a basic Ubuntu-compatible Window Manager so I can NX in. It seems like Xubuntu is still too heavy at times. Does anyone have any recommendations? Normally I run Gvim and multiple terminal windows. I could live without Gvim and just use Vim.
[21:39] <wizonesolutions> But something with multiple desktops and multiple terminal windows would be sweet.
[21:39] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: do i apt get build-essential?
[21:39] <poooo> cba123?
[21:39] <MystKid> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/372506/ i am trying to wite a script for bash_profile that will prompt for starting X
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> wizonesolutions:  lubuntu is about as light as ya get with a full featured desktop
[21:39] <MystKid> with two options... startx or go back to console
[21:39] <MystKid> i am kind of stuck there
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> wizonesolutions:  most all window managers can do  multi desktps and terms..
[21:40] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, This: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:40] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: Hehe yeah, it's not a big requirement huh :) Lubuntu eh? *googles*
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> wizonesolutions:  somthing like jwm can be very very light.
[21:40] <poooo> ubuntu wont install on my 486
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> wizonesolutions:  but if you go 'just' a window manager route. You will lose featutes like auto monunting of devices and so forth
[21:40] <gueriLLaPunK> i cant copy and paste in xterm and vnc? wth
[21:41] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: build-essential is already the newest version.
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> poooo:  I think the min reuirements are higher then that. Ive had it on a Pent 100 befor.
[21:41] <mario_> #zabrzeg
[21:41] <cba123> poooo, Yes?  I don't know the answer, I was just saying be patient.  Although I doubt that Maverick could work on a 486.  Maybe, maybe, xubuntu, but I really really doubt it
[21:41] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Have you tried going through the Synaptic Package Manager and finding your kernel sources and installing through there?
[21:41] <poooo> but where do i put the round disk into the pc?
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> !486
[21:42]  * YankDownUnder thinks someone's trolling
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> Dr_Willis: could not resolve hostname, name or service not known
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> port 22:connection refused
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> gueriLLaPunK:  try connecting via ip#
[21:42] <KNUBBIG> I just read troll and I'm instantly interested, nice :D
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> but its not suppose to be port 22
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> i changed it
[21:43] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: Yeah. Well Lubuntu seems lighter than Xubuntu, and Xubuntu was almost there and actually generally worked rather well. It's just that in the odd case where I have to hook up my physical monitor...it seems like Xubuntu starts to barf once the load gets high enough. So maybe Lubuntu will do the trick...even though it's not an LTS...as long as it's based off the same code as 10.04...it
[21:43] <wizonesolutions> should be OK I think, for my purposes.
[21:43] <kpodarg> having a problem with grub2
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> give the full command line to what port to use perhaps. gueriLLaPunK
[21:43] <YankDownUnder> KNUBBIG, Read through the last 50 lines...
[21:43] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: Thanks, appreciate the answer.
[21:43] <kpodarg> update-grub says cannot find partitions
[21:43] <jx-t> poooo: try jaunty it should load at least from the livecd
[21:43] <KNUBBIG> YankDownUnder, okay, I will, thx :D
[21:43] <gueriLLaPunK> somehow, if I restart ssh, it works via port 22483, which is what i have it set as
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> wizonesolutions:  lubutnu IS lighter then xubuntu. :)
[21:43] <kpodarg> cannot find list of partitions
[21:43] <poooo> oh so where do i put his livecd into
[21:44] <steb> hello
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> 486....c'mon...a 486? Jaunty on a 486?....can't even figger out what to do with a CD? C'mon....
[21:44] <poooo> there no slot for something like that disc
[21:44] <Jake__> wat the hell is this channel?
[21:44] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: build-essential is already 11.5 the latest version
[21:44] <KNUBBIG> Jake__, an ubuntu support channel
[21:44] <kpodarg> can anyone help me restore my system
[21:45] <bkerensa> /test
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Mate, nah, KERNEL SOURCES and HEADERS....that's what you're trying to get...
[21:45] <ipwnage> hey guys i need a little help yesterday i updated form 10.10 to the 11.04 beta and now my desktop is just black and things "stick" to it
[21:45] <Jake__> wat is ubuntu?
[21:45] <jx-t> poooo: could always do what a friend of mine does: insert disk in mouth :chew, swallow, spit
[21:45] <EmuAlert> How do I add directories to $PATH permanently?
[21:45] <KNUBBIG> Jake__, how did you get here?
[21:45] <BigFatFatty> an african style of music :)
[21:45] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: One more Q if you know - I'm actually kinda sick of having to keep hooking up a monitor and stuff to my box that is supposed to be headless. Are there any live CDs or something that will just boot and start running SSH and let me install over SSH? :) Or just do an unintended install and let me customize once enough is in there to log in. Or something.
[21:45] <KNUBBIG> hehe
[21:45] <kpodarg> i'm in chroot environment trying to restore grub
[21:45] <Jake__> im on an iphon i just entered this into my irc
[21:45] <poooo> will that work jx-t?
[21:46] <ipwnage> jake it's an open source operating system
[21:46] <BigFatFatty> chroot is the lead singer of the band 'grub'
[21:46] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: Also, the box I'm going to eventually put this on has a bad HD so that's why I'm looking to reinstall vs. just imaging onto a new HD...besides just normal backups, are there any tools or techniques you know of that might help get me up and running fast post-reinstall?
[21:46] <Jake__> o well y is ther so many ppl
[21:46] <ipwnage> who here is on 11.04?
[21:46] <poooo> this disc thing s is very confusing
[21:46] <ipwnage> because it's amazing.'
[21:46] <kpodarg> grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.98-1ubuntu10)
[21:46] <KNUBBIG> YankDownUnder, the name poooo might suggest trolling, that's true :D
[21:46] <wizonesolutions> Dr_Willis: My sys-fu is weak sometimes :P
[21:46] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: im sorry, then what exactly am i looking for?
[21:46] <ipwnage> WHO HAS UBUNTU 11.04?
[21:47] <KNUBBIG> Jake__, Ubuntu is a linux derivate
[21:47] <Jake__> no, dxm is amazing
[21:47] <Jake__> oh ok
[21:47] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: in synaptics
[21:47] <ipwnage> one of the MANY linux flavors
[21:47] <morxa> I'm looking for a tool to convert pdf to html. I tried pdftohtml, but it has problems with the character ' . I also used the complex mode -c, but then it looks just like a pdf and each pdf page has its own html file. Is there any other tool?
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> KNUBBIG, Someoen that doesn't even know where to put a CD, but CAN, however, get into IRC is rather disturbing...
[21:47] <poooo> I have a ubuntu cd
[21:47] <poooo> and a stiffy drive
[21:47] <Jake__> haha
[21:47] <tuhin> is it possible to set home in a ntfs partition?or in a subfolder in different ext4 partition?
[21:47] <KNUBBIG> YankDownUnder, maybe he started 20 years ago and never left his home? ;-)
[21:47] <WeThePeople> does 10.04 work with a tablet pc touch screen
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, I'd search for "sources" in the package manager => choose the right one(s) for your kernel version, install
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> KNUBBIG, Got me there - good point...
[21:48] <poooo> YankDownUnder, my dad help me
[21:48] <DJones> morxa: It might be worth trying calibre, that has a lot of conversion options for ebooks, I've used it to convert pdf to epun, possibly it'd convert to html as well
[21:48] <jx-t> poooo: for about $25 you can get a dvd burner to install on that poor old 486 of yours at any electronics store in north america
[21:48] <bazhang> KNUBBIG, YankDownUnder thats enough
[21:49] <poooo> I live in Botswana
[21:49] <KNUBBIG> bazhang, what did we do?
[21:49] <Jake__> does nobody here do drugs?
[21:49] <KNUBBIG> ohmy
[21:49] <morxa> DJones, thanks, I'll try it!
[21:49] <bazhang> Jake__, wrong channel
[21:49] <Jake__> great, im alone
[21:49] <oscargot> I do prescription drugs
[21:49] <poooo> I just bought this system and the sakesperson said it was top of the range
[21:49] <jx-t> can anyone tell me how to manually enable a service in ubuntu?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> !clone | wizonesolutions
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> tuhin:  home on ntfs - wont work.
[21:50] <Jake__> lmao... abuse antibiotics?
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> I smoke cigarettes and drink coffee...they're drugs...per se
[21:50] <KNUBBIG> Is there any list on the commands I can send to ubottu so I don't have to try?
[21:50] <Jake__> mmmmm yum moxicillan!
[21:50] <bazhang> YankDownUnder, Jake__ please stop it
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> tuhin:  you can have home on a differnt ext2/3/4 (or other) filesystem on a differnt HD. thats easy to do
[21:50] <Awolfy> hey guys
[21:50] <Awolfy> need some help
[21:50] <KNUBBIG> jx-t, you mean something like sudo service *** start?
[21:50] <KNUBBIG> hey Awolfy
[21:50] <Awolfy> hey knubbig
[21:51] <Awolfy> can you assist me
[21:51] <morxa> well, having a serious issue with your OS is like taking drugs. first, you kinda enjoy trying to fix it, you can't get it done, you get annoyed, troubled and you try to stay away from the computer for a while. then after 2 minutes, you come back b/c you had a new idea
[21:51] <KNUBBIG> !ask | Awolfy
[21:51] <Awolfy> Thunderbird
[21:51] <Awolfy> thunderbird is crashin instantly
[21:51] <Jake__> who was the dick tht just kicked me?
[21:51] <jx-t> KNUBBIG: yep trying to get bindgraph to start graphing
[21:51] <Awolfy> on its own
[21:51] <poooo> no one knows the answer to my question
[21:51] <poooo> why?
[21:51] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: im really confused man, how do i know what package(s) to install? im running 10.10 for netbook
[21:51] <Awolfy> it opens for like 1ms then poof
[21:51] <maco> Jake__: watch your language
[21:52] <Jake__> stfu macu
[21:52] <Awolfy> Im running 10.10 desktop
[21:52] <Jake__> this channels gey
[21:52] <KNUBBIG> Awolfy, try starting it via terminal and look if there's an error
[21:52] <Awolfy> well I don't understand much in linux world
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Well, ya said ya needed the kernel sources to compile the driver - ergo, that's what you're looking for, right?
[21:52] <Awolfy> you see Im a newbie
[21:52] <poooo> me too
[21:53] <KNUBBIG> Awolfy, okay, open a terminal via Application -> Accessoires
[21:53] <poooo> don't hate because i'm stooopid
[21:53] <Awolfy> I tried running it
[21:53] <KNUBBIG> and there type in thunderbird (I hope that is correct as I don't use it myself) and press enter and wait for output
[21:53] <Awolfy> but what exactly should I look for in the terminal
[21:53] <Awolfy> I did that
[21:53] <KNUBBIG> Awolfy, mainly anything that says error:
[21:54] <Awolfy> ok 1 min
[21:54] <KNUBBIG> Awolfy, you might as well, if you don't see anything, copy the whole output and paste it on pastebin.com
[21:55] <KNUBBIG> jx-t, sorry, I don't know anything about bindgraph
[21:55] <Awolfy> aha well I found only one line that says error
[21:55] <tuhin> Dr_Willis: can i set home for multiple linux distro in same partition (different home folder for each linux)
[21:55] <jx-t> KNUBBIG : thanks anyways
[21:55] <poooo> please help
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Awolfy:  open a terminal, run the command, look for error messages is  a common way to see whats going on
[21:56] <Awolfy> @Dr_Willis well I did I found only one and should I paste here >
[21:57] <KNUBBIG> Awolfy, yes please
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> tuhin:  you dont share the /  you COULD share the /home/ Either with commonusernames.. or differnt usernames for each disrto.
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | Awolfy
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> tuhin:  it depends on what disrtos are doing the shareing.
[21:57] <Awolfy> _XError+0x00000109 [/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 +0x0003B2C9]
[21:57] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: i found package called ketchup and the description is update utility for linux-kernal sources is that the correct one?
[21:58] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, Mate, I honestly don't know - you're the one that was reading through the forums about the driver for this mic...I can only answer based on what you're telling me...
[21:58] <Awolfy> _XError+0x00000109 [/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 +0x0003B2C9]
[21:59] <Awolfy> Heres the line that contains the word error
[22:00] <r\wWorld> peripherals and linux never go together
[22:00] <Heylookitsbret> YankDownUnder: alright, im gonna look into this some more ill be back later if needed thanks so much for your help
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> Heylookitsbret, When you get to the point of having to actually get to the compile bits, lemme know...
[22:00] <Heylookitsbret> alright
[22:01] <cykros> so...is there supposed to be a menu in Unity? nothing on right click on the desktop...
[22:01] <macs> how do i make my bash script check if the user has the package 'python' avalible?
[22:01] <cykros> the app bar is there, the right click works in other applications...
[22:01] <cykros> but no menu from a right click on the desktop
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> macs:  you could try running 'which python' and check its return codes perhaps.
[22:02] <macs> ok
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> cykros:  i dont think theres a desktop menu any more. but ive not used unity a lot.
[22:02] <sevith> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/5254/
[22:03] <sevith> I have issues running this python dns scripts, essentially it queries to see if a domain exists and about 1300 queries later it runs out of buffer space
[22:03] <sevith> Can i up this limitation in the kernel or anywhere?
[22:03] <cykros> ahh, that would explain it
[22:03] <cykros> otherwise everything works...surprisingly well
[22:03] <cykros> i guess gone are the days of text based installation and spending hours finding drivers that work...
[22:03] <wizonesolutions> !automate
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> cykros:  if you want that.. thers disrtos out like thta.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> sevith:  perhaps the 'ulimit' but ive rarey heard of programs running out of 'space' these days :)
[22:05] <Guest16604> does anyone know how to set ubuntu so it does not try to go to sleep when i am watching full screen video?
[22:05] <DOokami> hello everyone
[22:05] <creature-> hi
[22:05] <sevith> Dr_Willis, Until now :) Did you look at that pastebin? Im not sure which buffer its relating to?
[22:05] <DOokami> can anyone tell me how can i run a java program that i made in ubuntu
[22:05] <DOokami> how to run it and compile it ?
[22:06] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, Do you know how to compile and run in general?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> sevith:  i cant imagine either. i dont code in python.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> java --jar foo.jar  (or was it -jar)
[22:06] <DOokami> KNUBBIG i did it in the past years but i totally forgot ,, i'm not sure if i have the right "java run time" files yet
[22:07] <DOokami> so i kinda need the steps
[22:07] <sevith> Dr_Willis, ulimit controls user processes? Im sending out DNS traffic but running out of buffer space in the middle of the script. I have 2gb of ram with 8 gb of swap im not sure which limitation its relating too :/
[22:07] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis, -jar
[22:07] <DOokami> to refresh and do it
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> gotta love so many 'standards' to choose from with command line arguments. :)
[22:07] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, you need either sun-java6-jdk or openjdk (sorry, don't know the exact package name)
[22:07] <KNUBBIG> :D
[22:08] <ThinkT510> !java
[22:08] <KNUBBIG> thanks :)
[22:08] <ThinkT510> :)
[22:08] <[Soma]> !sopcast
[22:08] <sevith> Dr_Willis, My ulimit (Just checked) Is unlimited. :O!
[22:08] <KNUBBIG> Man, I need a list of the ubottu commands! ;)
[22:08] <DOokami> KNUBBIG, thanks, how about the other steps
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> sevith:  could be some bug in the program
[22:08] <s3r3n1t7> sevith, that's the detault
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !fish
[22:08] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, do you have one or more files?
[22:09] <ThinkT510> !bot | KNUBBIG
[22:09] <KNUBBIG> I love you : D thanks!
[22:09] <DOokami> KNUBBIG, i want to run a "grade.java" file that i have
[22:09] <DOokami> compile, then run it
[22:09] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, java grade.java
[22:09] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, java grade
[22:09] <KNUBBIG> oh sorry
[22:09] <westmi> is minecraft in the repositories?
[22:09] <KNUBBIG> first is javac grade.java
[22:09] <sevith> Dr_Willis, Hrrm. I think its a system bug ;) Cuz iv never had any problems throwing out thousands of packets before until now? Maybe when I recompiled the kernel i mucked something up but i could reboot to a dif. version and check to see if it works?
[22:09] <sevith> Damn thats a good idea ima be right back and see if it fixes anything
[22:10] <DOokami> javac grade.java < compilation ?
[22:10] <DOokami> then ,, ?
[22:10] <bastidrazor> westmi: it is not.
[22:10] <westmi> ok
[22:10] <westmi> thanks
[22:10] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, javac grade.java just compiles it and creates a grade.class which you have to call with the java command (but without the .class ending)
[22:10] <DOokami> KNUBBIG so it'll be "java grade" ?
[22:11] <DOokami> the second line i mean
[22:11] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, yes
[22:11] <DOokami> KNUBBIG, thaaaaaaanks a lot :D
[22:11] <KNUBBIG> DOokami, no problem
[22:13] <Guest16604> can anyone tell me how to stop from going to sleep when watching a full screen video? I cant find it in the power management option?
[22:14] <jx-t> guest16604: try screensaver settings
[22:14] <ipwnage> who has ubuntu 11.04?
[22:14] <cykros> specifically when watching a full screen video? it wouldn't surprise me if you can only disable sleep or enable it no matter what, depending on your hardware...
[22:14] <sysRPL> hello ... can someone hello me setup a folder share on ubuntu using only the command line. i'm connected to this ubuntu install using putty on windows
[22:14] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | ipwnage
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> ipwnage:  see #ubuntu+1 channel for support for that release
[22:14] <Alexanderjb> #twil
[22:15] <Aaron_Wayne> jx-t, i dont see anything in there for that either
[22:15] <cykros> sysRPL: man smbclient
[22:15] <Laggg> I keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track..
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  just disable teh screensaver? what video player are you using?
[22:15] <cykros> and man smb.conf
[22:15] <Alexanderjb> #TWIL
[22:15] <Aaron_Wayne> well, it happens with any videos, youtube, any online videos, and the media player i use is vlc
[22:16] <Alexanderjb> join #twil
[22:16] <Laggg> I keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track..
[22:16] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, well, it happens with any videos, youtube, any online videos, and the media player i use is vlc
[22:16] <sevith> ok
[22:16] <sevith> Its the kernel issue now
[22:16] <sevith> ...
[22:17] <sysRPL> cykros: that's an 8000 line document
[22:17] <sevith> Or maybe its because the kernel its optimized on this version because it was taking an easy 2 seconds to push 100+ packets but on the other version i was going over 100/second and run out of buffer space no later than 1300 packets
[22:17] <sevith> rebooted to
[22:17] <sevith> 2.6.35
[22:17] <sevith> got to 2000 and no problems
[22:17] <sevith> -.-
[22:17] <FloodBot1> sevith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <zetoh> i just installed ubuntu 11.04 beta 2, to get the final version, i just update it  when it is released, right?
[22:17] <sevith> Yeah, Enter as punctuation my bad :(
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  I DO belive vlc has some setting for disabling the screensaver. but i never notice the problem here. I tend to use vlc, or smplayer  a lot.. lately however ive been using xbmc
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> zetoh:  thats how the package manager system works. Yes. :)
[22:18] <cykros> sysRPL: idk offhand how to do it, so i figured i'd direct you to the manual for the command that will do it.
[22:19] <cykros> sorry that it's long, and hopefully someone else may be able to walk you through it...
[22:19] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, that actually leads me to another question if you dont mind, if i could play everything through vlc that would be great, why dont some streams work? do i have to do something with the codecs?
[22:19] <sysRPL> how do you exit man ?
[22:19] <cykros> hit 'q'
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  Depeneds on how the stream is streming i guess. I rarely watch video streams
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  ive seen very few things that vlc cant play. other then DRm protected stuff.
[22:20] <spid3rnet> how no pWnOS
[22:20] <spid3rnet> how now pWnOS
[22:20] <spid3rnet> **
[22:20] <cykros> actually, now that i think about it, there may be a command along the lines of "smbmount" that may be better than smbclient for what you need anyway
[22:20] <cykros> its been a few years since i did any samba shares though
[22:20] <jx-t> I have vlc playing everything... works great
[22:20] <cykros> i think these days i'd probably just use ftp
[22:21] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, yeah, like some youtube videos work for me and a lot of others dont, other sites i can understand, like u were saying with drm, but i run into a lot of of youtube that i wouldnt think would have an issue but they dont play
[22:21] <cykros> haven't found a reason why samba would be worth the headache setting up over ftp
[22:21] <sysRPL> i show samba-common and smaba-common-bin installled ... does this mean smaba is installed?
[22:21] <cykros> other than, obviously, a preexisting network using samba all over the place
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> I cant see why one would use FTP in this dy and age.
[22:21] <cykros> Dr_Willis: because it beats zmodem :-P
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> I recall a amuseing site on 'ftp must die'
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> gave some neat history on ftp.
[22:21] <KNUBBIG> sysRPL, yes
[22:22] <sevith> Dr_Willis, Did you get that?
[22:22] <cykros> though zmodem is still used, mostly on BBS systems
[22:22] <sysRPL> Dr_Willis: how else would you reccomend shared hosting companies allow people to upload their web sites?
[22:22] <YankDownUnder> Oy...ZModem protocol was really really great "back in the day" and I beta-tested it heaps of times on my BBS....
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> sysRPL:  scp
[22:22] <excelsior> some kind of class?
[22:22] <sevith> Dr_Willis, The issues doesnt exist in kernel 2.6.35-28 for me. Or at least I cant reproduce it with the same script.
[22:22] <sysRPL> Dr_Willis: that would require people to donload an scp capable client
[22:22] <cykros> YankDownUnder: do you still run a BBS?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> sysRPL:  given the security  issues with ftp.. its scary its still in use.  thats the 'core' of most arguments against it.
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> sysRPL:  so what..
[22:23] <cykros> I mostly connect to entropybbs.co.nz these days
[22:23] <cykros> just moved away from vertrauen recently
[22:23] <Senix> how do i change the default browser in ubuntu?
[22:23] <cykros> though, i managed to screw things up with BRE, so i can't play that there until (unless?) the door gets reset.
[22:23] <cykros> preferred applications
[22:24] <cykros> @ senix
[22:24] <Senix> cykros: and wheres that
[22:24] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, i get something like this every time something doesnt work
[22:24] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594644/
[22:24] <cykros> that would depend on your user interface
[22:24] <cykros> but it'd be somewhere in a system menu of some kind
[22:24] <YankDownUnder> cykros, Actually - been thinking about setting one up again - JUST LIKE the old days...
[22:24] <cykros> if its gnome, i think system -> <something> -> preferred applications
[22:25] <cykros> YankDownUnder: check out the enthral or synchronet packages
[22:25] <SMG> hello guys and girls, im trying to compile the mplayer-plugin but I get this error, "checking for gtk+... sh: gtk-config: not found
[22:25] <cykros> both are pretty handy suites that are fairly easy to config the hell out of
[22:25] <SMG> sh: gtk-config: not found
[22:25] <SMG> sh: gtk-config: not found
[22:25] <SMG> yes
[22:25] <FloodBot1> SMG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <YankDownUnder> cykros, Been there done that - working on the new incarnation of VBBS
[22:25] <cykros> ahh
[22:25] <cykros> cool
[22:25] <cykros> nice to see more systems around
[22:25] <cykros> i'm waiting to see what people come up with on the new commodore computers from commodore USA
[22:25] <cykros> especially once the Commodore OS starts shipping out
[22:26] <cykros> for now they're just shipping with ubuntu
[22:26] <YankDownUnder> cykros, We'll find out very soon...very soon.... :)
[22:26] <speedy> Question: I have Dual Boot Win7/Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat 10.10 but I installed the said Ubuntu version with the wubi installer along side win7 so now I want to take the Ubuntu 10.10 MM and put the entire thing on to a USB 500gig drive so ccan i move that from my win7 to this usb drive
[22:26] <cykros> anyone know why some apps i can right click on to add to the unity panel, but others (namely pidgin) don't give me the option?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> cykros:  the 'info' ive herd about that company.. sort of imply  its proberly a company worth avoiding.
[22:27] <cykros> Dr_Willis: oh, i won't be buying one anytime in the near future
[22:27] <cykros> i just am curious as to what BBS's may pop up using them
[22:27] <cykros> and also, its nice to see apple's old nemesis coming back
[22:28] <cykros> because anyone who makes apple's existence harder is good in my book.
[22:28] <Infame> Is it normal to have 2 ubuntus at GNU grub? One being Linux 2.6.35.28, and the other being 2.6.35.22....
[22:28] <edbian> Infame, It's normal.
[22:28] <edbian> Infame, They're different kernels.
[22:28] <cykros> Infame: did you upgrade your kernel at any point? because that would do it.
[22:28] <bazhang> cykros, lets get back on topic please
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> cykros:  I proberly have about 10 kernels :)
[22:28] <sevith> Infame, Yes. They are just different kernel versions.
[22:28] <Infame> Yeah... I upadted a few things...
[22:28] <Infame> Do I delete one?... somehow?
[22:28] <sevith> Infame, I have around 8 entries on my grub menu.lst all different. So dont worry
[22:29] <sevith> Infame, Thats more of a how to edit grub question but in essence /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> each kernel takes up what? about 200mb on the system? i never really looked into it
[22:29] <sevith> Not quiet sure
[22:29] <Infame> Oh, so it doesn't explictly take too much space?
[22:29] <edbian> Infame, go to System -> admin -> synaptic.  Search the number of the one you want to remove.  Remove the package that shows up.  DON'T delete all the kernels
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> Theres the kernel, then the related modules..
[22:30] <MaRk-I> Infame: if you remove the older kernel through synaptic it'll take care of the grub for you... I'll leave it just in case i have problems with the newer kernel
[22:30] <sevith> Infame, What edbian said. I really would leave it there. If you muck the menu file up you wont be able to boot your system.
[22:30] <sevith> Infame, Depending on your expertise you could fix it. Or if you mess it up youll have to reinstall
[22:30] <Infame> ah, logic, Mark :p
[22:30] <Infame> LOL
[22:30] <sevith> Infame, No id guess at the most a kernel is 5MB max? maybe?..
[22:30] <Infame> I just got Linux today. First time ever.
[22:31] <MaRk-I> welcome to the dark side
[22:31] <sysRPL> wtf ... what is samba4?
[22:31] <Infame> Ah, then I don't mind too much :p
[22:31] <sevith> hrrm 4th version of samba im guessing? :P
[22:31] <sysRPL> i followed some guides ... and tried sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[22:31] <arti_> Hello to all,I have permis
[22:31] <sysRPL> but it ddn't work
[22:31] <linuxrealm> ok, i got windows to load on the box, not the issue, im trying to load ubuntu, when i get to ubuntu install screen from booted usb flash drive set to boot from bios, it allows me to work the graphical boot menu, i set noacpi no everything bascially, and it just sits there,,, finally the ubuntu 10.10 4 dot screen loads, and it its and sits,, dropping down to tty1, it says, unable to find live fs medium...
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> sysRPL:  use the service command. and the service is not called samba. its like 'smbd' i think (tab completion will help)
[22:31] <Infame> I'm liking Ubunto so far. Fast and neat. Too bad I'll have to find something else than VS ;p
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> sudo service smbd stop  (i think)
[22:32] <cba123> Does anyone know a script or something that will cut images in half vertically, as in 3360x1050 to two 1680x1050 images?
[22:32] <KNUBBIG> linuxrealm, does it give some error about casper?
[22:32] <linuxrealm> no
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> cba123:  the imagemagick tools can proberly do it.
[22:32] <KNUBBIG> linuxrealm, or unable to mount foo/bar
[22:32] <sevith> Infame, Optimize your kernel to run at your full potential :) instead of lame default ubuntu install options..
[22:32] <linuxrealm> kicks me to inittramfs prompt
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> imagemagik (or however its spelt)
[22:32] <Phail_Quail> I am trying to install Ubuntu. Everytime I boot from the livecd I simply end up at a black "Busy Box" screen. Help?
[22:32] <Infame> LOL
[22:32] <MaRk-I> cba123: cut or resize?
[22:32] <sevith> Like amatuer radio options configured by default? Who the F* uses that?
[22:32] <Infame> Haven't explored that far yet.
[22:33] <linuxrealm> KNUBBIG: you know initramfs area?
[22:33] <sevith> -.-
[22:33] <KNUBBIG> linuxrealm, no, sorry
[22:33] <arti_> Hi to all,I have permition to conect to internet only with one PC,can i conect 3 ore 4 other pc to the same line and how?
[22:33] <linuxrealm> k
[22:33] <cba123> MaRk-I, Cut, I have a few 3360x1050 images, I just want them cut into two 1680x1050 images each.
[22:33] <edbian> arti_, yes, buy a router
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> !ics | arti_
[22:33] <sysRPL> http://imagebot.org/snapshops/what-do-i-do.jpg
[22:33] <Phail_Quail> I am trying to install Ubuntu. Everytime I boot from the livecd I simply end up at a black "Busy Box" screen. Help?
[22:33] <sysRPL> what do i do?
[22:33] <linuxrealm> interesting,,, Intel provides a tool to check the BIOS for Linux compatibility.
[22:33] <sevith> ,/rm -rf / < Do this.
[22:33] <linuxrealm> linuxfirmwarekit
[22:33] <sevith> :o
[22:33] <KNUBBIG> ...
[22:33] <s3r3n1t7> sevith, DO NOT DO THAT
[22:33] <cba123> Dr_Willis, I was looking for imagemagick, couldn't find it
[22:33] <KNUBBIG> I saw someone get kicked for htat!
[22:34] <sevith> :o
[22:34] <linuxrealm> sevith: thats a good way to get the boot
[22:34] <sevith> :(
[22:34] <s3r3n1t7> !danger
[22:34] <Phail_Quail> sevith: That's not funny at all
[22:34] <Phail_Quail> I am trying to install Ubuntu. Everytime I boot from the livecd I simply end up at a black "Busy Box" screen. Help?
[22:34] <taglass> linuxrealm: That's funny.  Until recently my Intel MB couldn't soft-reboot under linux because of their botched BIOS..
[22:34] <Infame> o_o
[22:34] <linuxrealm> its funny to noobs i guess. shrugs
[22:34] <sevith> Ok, I feel ashamed.
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> cba123:  its in the repos.. but i cant recallhow tospell it
[22:34] <m4v> sevith: please don't do that, be helpful in this channel :)
[22:34] <linuxrealm> taglass: thats why i mention it today
[22:34] <s3r3n1t7> linuxrealm, it's not funny at all.
[22:34] <linuxrealm> im finding out things as i go
[22:34] <sevith> m4v, I did I just helped a few people :)
[22:34] <linuxrealm> s3r3n1t7: thanks, but i didnt utter
[22:35] <speedy> Infame: u can delete the ones u do not want as well as cleaning packages with this software use Ubuntu Tweak or Ailurus but keep the one u boot to and a back up previous kernel if ur booting to 2.6.35.28 and 2.6.35.27 keep those and remove the rest i have done it and it works as well as using both has some advantages over the other use both softwares as i mentioned makes it a very easy task
[22:35] <s3r3n1t7> sevith, that command will probably wreck your entire installation and is therefor considered very dangerous. Do not execute it.
[22:35] <sevith> Im not in a real position to be help anyways lol
[22:35] <linuxrealm> taglass: any work around?
[22:35] <sevith> s3r3n1t7, I know I know lol. I wont run it :P
[22:35] <sevith> But i still have my kernel issue here...no one seems to know much on it
[22:35] <Phail_Quail> I am trying to install Ubuntu. Everytime I boot from the livecd I simply end up at a black "Busy Box" screen. Help?
[22:36] <linuxrealm> Phail_Quail: same issue here today
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> sevith:  not much call for recompiling kernels these days
[22:36] <sevith> Phail_Quail, Insufficient support for gpu? try vesa drivers instead?
[22:36] <linuxrealm> except i made it to the initramfs prompt
[22:36] <sevith> Dr_Willis, I know its lame. :(
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Phail_Quail:  check the md5sum of the iso image? could be a bad burn/download
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> sevith:  i dont miss it..
[22:36] <s3r3n1t7> sevith, if you know what it does then you should never suggest it, not even as a joke.
[22:36] <linuxrealm> Dr_Willis: could be but most likely he has same issue as me
[22:36] <Phail_Quail> I checked the md5sum and I burned at slowest speed on two discs. I know this is not the issue.
[22:36] <sevith> Dr_Willis, Its entertaining :)
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> Phail_Quail:  i always install fromusb flash drives these days
[22:37] <linuxrealm> bios is mucking with anything other than linux lol,, note, this is an old laptop
[22:37] <Dreamscape> hey all, can anyone recommend a distu for me for a celeron 433mhz/256mb ram/40gb hdd ? needs to be able to use my pcmcia wifi card so DSL/puppy wont really work
[22:37] <sevith> And Educational...
[22:37] <Infame> Next question, faulty Ubuntu instal partions resulted in some memory being allocated but wont be used at all... is there are a way to 'merge' thouse with hd0,2?
[22:37] <linuxrealm> Dr_Willis: im in usb install, same issue
[22:37] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis, is there a tutorial for installing from USB?
[22:37] <linuxrealm> anyfoo
[22:37] <Phail_Quail> linuxrealm: beta2 .iso?
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> Dreamscape:  other then Puppy - you may be out of luck.  perhaps TinyCore Linux.
[22:37] <linuxrealm> nope
[22:37] <linuxrealm> 10.10 stable desktop
[22:37] <Aaron_Wayne> so who here actually recommends untiy?, i have yet to use it, is it worth it?
[22:37] <Aaron_Wayne> unity*
[22:37] <sevith> Infame, What partition was it? You might be able to just mount it into the system *Like into your home directory* For added space.
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG:  use a tool to put iso on the usb flash.. and boot it.. install..
[22:38] <Dreamscape> Dr_Willis: is there anything ubuntu based i could use? i feel at home with ubuntu
[22:38] <linuxrealm> ill be back....
[22:38] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis, okay, thanks ^^
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  its to be the new default in the next release..
[22:38] <KM0201> Dreamscape, crunchbang linux
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Dreamscape:  that low end.. perhaps Lubuntu.
[22:38] <Dreamscape> thanks guys
[22:38] <Aaron_Wayne> yeah, is it way different?
[22:38] <taglass> Aaron_Wayne:  I'm enjoying is so far once I found the option to keep the launcher from hiding.
[22:38] <Dreamscape> il loo into it
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  its way differnt then gnome.. yes.
[22:38] <mehlo_> Dreamscape: try kolibriOS :-)
[22:38] <KM0201> 433mhz... that might even push Lubuntu..lol
[22:38] <spid3rnet> join #backtrack-linux
[22:39] <Infame> It was partion for Ubuntu.. but since two installs failed, and the 'advanced partion' part confused me... I kept on doing it untill it installed.
[22:39] <s3r3n1t7> Dreamscape, lubuntu, xubuntu
[22:39] <Dreamscape> thanks mehlo
[22:39] <Infame> about 2 allocations... 100 gb...
[22:39] <spid3rnet> ./join #backtrack-linux
[22:39] <Infame> Currently on LiveCD reviewing it.
[22:39] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, it looks like using it though it is not worth running dock, or pretty much looks like a dock i guess, correct?
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu is  just a little lighter then gnome  - from the last bemchmnarks i saw
[22:39] <DETERMINOLOGY> whats better then dropbox that you can sync from/to/
[22:39] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, it was a ton lighter on resources on my last test (a few months ago)
[22:39] <DETERMINOLOGY> ?
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  get a live cd and try it.
[22:39] <Infame> LiveCD -> GParted...
[22:40] <sevith> Infame, install gparted or qtparted and snoop around format a partition and then mount it wherever with mount -t filesystemtype /dev/sdb1 /mount/target/here
[22:40] <Infame> Oppps
[22:40] <sevith> Infame, Might help. Might not.
[22:40] <Infame> Sevith, apparently, it's unallocated memory now.
[22:40] <Aaron_Wayne> Dr_Willis, is natty already released?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> s3r3n1t7:  saw some web sites graph out/test the desktops.. lubuntu won  hands down. but i just skimmed the artical :)
[22:40] <Infame> What I'd like is: For it to be allocated to sda2
[22:40] <KNUBBIG> Aaron_Wayne, no
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> Aaron_Wayne:  beta testing
[22:40] <KNUBBIG> Aaron_Wayne, only betas
[22:40] <KNUBBIG> oh sorry
[22:40] <speedy> can a wubi installed full ubuntu mav meerkat fully updated be move to a larger drive usb 500gig
[22:40] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, i haven't had the chance to test lubuntu out just yet, i'll make a note of that to do that early next week. Thanks for the reminder
[22:40] <Aaron_Wayne> KNUBBIG, how can i run live cd then? or just boot live with maverick and install?
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> speedy:  ive seen guides/tools for converting a wubi install to a normal install.
[22:41] <sevith> Infame, sudo apt-get install gparted and then run sudo gparted and then format the partition apply the changed get to the terminal mount the partition to the area you would like and its like extra space..
[22:41] <KNUBBIG> Aaron_Wayne, you could download a beta CD and run it
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> s3r3n1t7:  yea. Lubuntu is handy.
[22:41] <Infame> Sevith, I'm currently running GParted on LiveCD... Any difference?
[22:41] <sevith> Infame, Or you could fdisk it...But..You said ur a noob so that might be a bit over your head?
[22:41] <Infame> LOL
[22:41] <sevith> Infame, Not really not. You should still be able to check the system hdd
[22:43] <Aaron_Wayne> KNUBBIG, what is the download for it? I already have a live usb of maverick created right now
[22:44] <spid3rnet> help i need pWnOS.iso
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> spid3rnet:  never heard of it.
[22:44] <KNUBBIG> Aaron_Wayne, here are download links for beta 2: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta
[22:45] <sevith> spid3rnet, ?
[22:45] <spid3rnet> its a vuln live  cd to u can pentestit
[22:45] <spid3rnet> its pentration testing
[22:45] <Aaron_Wayne> KNUBBIG, oh, its a natty beta
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> spid3rnet:  its not ubuntu.. so  check google for its homepage perhaps.
[22:45] <spid3rnet> so DR_willis no idea
[22:46] <KNUBBIG> spid3rnet, you could also use backtrack I think which at least has a channel here, #backtrack
[22:46] <gpled> i know with /etc/host i can override ip to name lookups.   is their a way to override name to ip lookups?
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> thers dozens of similer disrots/tools at teh DisrtoWatch web site.
[22:46] <louigi> guys, cannot switch sound from firefox and many other apps to usb soundcard. apps do not show up in Sound Preferences, although they did some time ago. Ubuntu 10.04
[22:46] <louigi> tried rebooting
[22:46] <louigi> usb soundcard set as default
[22:46] <louigi> before firefox would show up in sound preferences
[22:47] <louigi> not now
[22:47] <louigi> now almost nothing shows up
[22:47] <louigi> vlc shows up
[22:47] <louigi> most apps do not
[22:47] <louigi> what to do?
[22:47] <FloodBot1> louigi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> Stop hitting enter so much.. for starters. :)
[22:47] <sevith> Dr_Willis, lol.
[22:48] <louigi> Dr_Willis, sorry!
[22:48] <swatto> Does anyone know how I can assign the windows key to open terminal please? When I press it in keyboard shorcuts it doesnt register it unless i press it in combination with something else? - sorry was afk so didnt get the last message
[22:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> louigi:  could be those apps are some how not using the PULSE audio system.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> swatto: its a meta-key (aka the super key) its  used by many many other apps as that sort of a key. remaping it may goof up a lot of things.
[22:49] <oscargot> is there aw ay to check my power management information through the shell? (ie. battery life etc etc)
[22:49] <KNUBBIG> swatto, if you've got compiz you could use that
[22:49] <louigi> Dr_Willis, could be. But how to make them use now? And what could;ve changed that?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  theres tools like guake,  that can scroll down a terminal with differnt key combos
[22:50] <swatto> KNUBBIG, Yep ive got compiz
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> louigi:  no idea really. ive rarely had to mess with sound settings like that.
[22:50] <swatto> Dr_Willis, a meta-key? Ive never had no use for it yet?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  compiz and  unity make use of it for a great many things...
[22:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> cant manually install wvdial.deb
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  try 'sudo gdebi whatever.deb' perhaos
[22:51] <swatto> Dr_Willis, ahh ok, shall i leave it then?
[22:51] <|Slacker|> whhat do you need wvdial for?
[22:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> it runs and then says same version is available at software centre
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  i use it in unity, and for compiz featutres all the time. :) even in windows  it has special features these days
[22:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> problem is i have been unable to connect to net all day and wanted to know how to over rider it for future reference
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  where did that .deb come from?
[22:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> i dled it on my windows pc
[22:52] <swatto> Dr_Willis, Windows as in the OS? Cause i dont use it
[22:53] <KINGOFSWORDS> i was having trouble connecting on lucid and wine
[22:53] <|Slacker|> lemme see...you need a dialer to connect, am I right?
[22:53] <ayecee> !find gpsctl
[22:53] <KINGOFSWORDS> i presume theres a problem with the usb on my ubuntu/laptop
[22:53] <|Slacker|> have you tried gnomePPP?
[22:53] <gerzel> How do I figure out the UUID of a new partition?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[22:54] <guntbert> gerzel: sudo blkid    should tell you
[22:54] <gerzel> thank you
[22:54] <guntbert> :-/
[22:55] <KINGOFSWORDS> whats gnome ppp slacker
[22:55] <KINGOFSWORDS> is it sAme as wvdial?
[22:56] <MaRk-I> KINGOFSWORDS: if it's a 3G usb modem(or the likes) make sure you have usbmode-switch and usbmode-switch-data installed
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> ppp = point to point protocall  - used by  dialup connections :)   not sure about the 3gusb things..
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure if wvdial is needed/used by the 3g modems.
[22:57] <KINGOFSWORDS> MaRk-I i have modeswitch and have been connecting with that
[22:57] <|Slacker|> oh...3g modems
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> I just teather my phone to my pc. :)
[22:57] <|Slacker|> mine runs well under network manager
[22:57] <KINGOFSWORDS> it was a deb file i dled in windwos and moved over but whats the data installed
[22:57] <|Slacker|> and I have a kinda old fashioned 3g usb modem
[22:58] <Infame> Could anyone help me put some unallocated data onto some allocated data (Get more space on that specific partion)
[22:58] <KINGOFSWORDS> i get great connnection when it connects but during daytime it has real problems..but will connect to windwos xp(but not wine)
[22:58] <|Slacker|> Infame, guess gparted does that for ya, doesn't it?
[22:59] <Infame> No idea how I would go forth on that, sorry.
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> One would not use 'wine' to drive hardware normally...
[22:59] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i thought a dial up program was wierd for a 3g fome but read it on ubuntuforum
[22:59] <Infame> Got it up on LiveCD, but not many options are availeable when right clicking on the unallocated space...
[22:59] <KINGOFSWORDS> no but since it connects in normal windwos xp i thought it might be ok in wine
[22:59] <|Slacker|> KINGOFSWORDS, it's possible to set it up to use a 3g modem but I don't hink it'll solve your problem
[23:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[23:00] <MaRk-I> KINGOFSWORDS: wireless in wine?
[23:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> like i say when it does eventually connects its great connection
[23:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> not wireless
[23:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> 3g fone with usb cable
[23:01] <MaRk-I> but what does wine has to di with it?
[23:01] <MaRk-I> do*
[23:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> it has wrong usb ids alot of the time
[23:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> well 3g modem connects in windows
[23:01] <excelsior> anyone know how to update twitter from curl?
[23:01] <excelsior> give me a recent link? my test didn't seem to work...
[23:02] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah sorry...the fone has virtual cd with driver software on it(only for windows) which i have installed in wine
[23:02] <KINGOFSWORDS> the autoinstall.exe is reason for it not connecting in linux hence the modeswitch prog
[23:03] <excelsior> any good tutorials on using ubunt with droid phones?
[23:03] <excelsior> like for syncing and stuff
[23:03] <KINGOFSWORDS> FATAL: Module ubserial not found.
[23:03] <KINGOFSWORDS>  get this in terminal and when i go into bios boot menu usb doesnt show up anynore
[23:03] <MaRk-I> KINGOFSWORDS: usbmode-switch is so it can be detected by network manager as a modem and not as a USB storage device
[23:03] <excelsior> When's 11.4 coming out?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> excelsior:  in what way? I just plug mine in and access its  data as if it was a usb disk.
[23:03] <excelsior> sync calendar?
[23:03] <excelsior> contacts?
[23:03] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[23:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> either way it works..
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> excelsior:  err. Hmm.. my calander and contacts get synced to my google email account..
[23:04] <mister2> hey guys, i'm trying to boot a debian based live disk from a card in a card reader, and my bios won't recognize it. How can i boot it from grub?
[23:04] <mister2> i used unetbootin to prepare it
[23:04] <MaRk-I> KINGOFSWORDS: not sure but you didnt need the windows installation for it, it was just to go to network manager and setup the correct info
[23:04] <excelsior> Dr_Willis: I'm not all that googly...
[23:04] <Infame> Can anyone tell me how to get that unallocated space into sda2?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> mister2: if a pc cant boot from a card reader. it may not be possible to trick it into doing so. unless you do some remastering of the cd.
[23:05] <excelsior> anyone ever use curl to update twitter>
[23:05] <excelsior> ?
[23:05] <vsingh165> I'm on Maverick 64-bit, and I'm having issues with my Linksys WMP54G (rev 4.1)
[23:05] <vsingh165> half the time, I can't get an IP address
[23:05] <vsingh165> and if I do, the connection is VERY slow
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> night all
[23:06] <KNUBBIG> good night
[23:06] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok MaRk-I theres a thread explaining how to do it and the problems ppl are having on ubuntu forum..
[23:08] <geus> Infame, read up on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GParted Make sure to back up all your data before trying it though
[23:09] <Infame> geus: Already on livecd with gparted. How to work it?
[23:10] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know a good live usb creator besides unetbootin, i dont really like that, i like something like linux live but can only get that for windows
[23:10] <JuiceFace> Hello
[23:10] <KNUBBIG> Hi JuiceFace
[23:10] <geus> well, boot from it (set it as the primary bootable device in BIOS and follow the GUI/read the documentation
[23:11] <excelsior> Basic authentication doesn't work on twitter, any thoughts?
[23:11] <xangua> aaron_wayne: multisystem, previously called multiboot
[23:11] <firefly2442> Is there an ubuntu development IRC channel?
[23:11] <xangua> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[23:11] <pfifo> why wont ubuntu bring up eth0? is there some sort of preference for wireless with dhcp as opposed to static ip on a wire?
[23:11] <maco> firefly2442: #ubuntu-devel
[23:11] <firefly2442> ty
[23:11] <JuiceFace> Recently installed ubuntu on my old laptop.  LIked it so much dual booting it with my Desktop.  =).
[23:11] <aaron_wayne> xangua, cool, will check it out
[23:19] <MethedMan> hi - i am running ubuntu 10.04.  i ran "sudo apt-get purge wine" and for some reason when i click on certain files they successfully load in a program that runs through wine.  i am *baffled*.
[23:21] <jordan_> im having problems with rhythmbox finding my iphone
[23:22] <jordan_> i have libmobile installed ifuse etc
[23:22] <arand> MethedMan: The "wine" package itself "is a dummy package that depends on the standard Wine components"...
[23:22] <jordan_> i have kubuntu 10.10
[23:22] <xangua> jordan_ using IOS 4.2 ¿
[23:22] <JuiceFace> Jordan I had the same issue, I googled it and some guy had a few commands i entered and it worked.. sec i can try to find the link
[23:22] <jordan_> maybe
[23:22] <arand> MethedMan: Check that wine-bin, wine-utils etc. are uninstalled as well
[23:22] <jordan_> ill look
[23:23] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html
[23:23] <xangua> jordan_ for ios 4.2
[23:23] <jordan_> i have iphone 3,1 os 4.3
[23:24] <geus> arand, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:24] <Superstar> What can I do to speed up Ubuntu on a laptop without upgrading? Specs - 1.7Ghz, 2GB RAM, shared graphics. It's only used to browse web pages and watch movies and maybe create the odd document
[23:24] <arand> cat geus > MethedMan
[23:24] <pozic> How can I listen to some iTunes content on Ubuntu>
[23:24] <pozic> ?
[23:24] <MethedMan> geus?
[23:25] <test1234> Hi, is problems with microphones a usual occurance with ubuntu?
[23:25] <pozic> test1234: no
[23:25] <arand> MethedMan: 23:23 < geus> (...) try sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:25] <jordan_> pozic, you can use wine
[23:25] <test1234> pozic: Are there any tests you can do to se what the problem might be?
[23:25] <jacobfogg> Is anyone familiar with the little images on some open source projects where it shows the number of lines of code, number of developers and total estimated cost of development... I want to do that for a project I am working on, but I can't seem to find it.
[23:25] <jordan_> but itunes doesnt work well
[23:26] <geus> arand, that should remove the wine packages after removing the dummy package
[23:26] <pozic> test1234: given your information, it could be anything.
[23:26] <jordan_> it does install and i would advise having a high power computer
[23:26] <MethedMan> ok i see.  so the main file (what are the files called when i run "aptitude search <x>") is the "binary emulator"?
[23:26] <arand> geus: Again, it's MethedMan who's asking
[23:27] <geus> lol sorry arand
[23:27] <test1234> pozic: thats my problem, i need a way to narrow it down. Can you suggest something i might try? I have enabled the microphone in the alsamixer and it isn't muted in sound preferences. what else can i do?
[23:27] <pozic> Is there nobody who reverse-engineered the protocol?
[23:27] <pozic> test1234: so, you get no sound at all?
[23:27] <jordan_> pozic, i dont know
[23:28] <jordan_> i have never seen another applcation that connects to itunes
[23:28] <arand> MethedMan: "aptitude search wine" will likely list most of them...
[23:28] <MethedMan> i got it.  thanks arand.  you are the man.
[23:28] <arand> MethedMan: If you use aptitude to remove it should autoremove the core packages as well
[23:28] <safire> hey i have an ubuntu asws instance
[23:28] <test1234> pozic: I get no sound from the microphone no. but my sound card appears to be working just fine with music etc.
[23:28] <safire> how do i disable the forced public key authentication?
[23:29] <safire> i don't know which option it is in sshd_config
[23:29] <pozic> test1234: you should just use pulse audio.
[23:29] <pozic> test1234: is this a laptop?
[23:30] <safire> annnyyone?
[23:30] <MethedMan> arand: i am currently running "sudo aptitude remove wine" -> now it wants to free 228MB.  does that make sense?
[23:30] <geus> safire, is PasswordAuthentication set to no
[23:30] <test1234> pozic: no its not a laptop. And in my skype settings for example its already set to pulse audio and it doesnt work. Btw what is pulse adiio?
[23:30] <MethedMan> what does {u} mean after a package?
[23:30] <arand> MethedMan: uninstall
[23:30] <MethedMan> y
[23:31] <safire> yes, that's what i thought it was
[23:31] <safire> but i don't understand the comment
[23:31] <safire> # Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords
[23:31] <safire> how are they "clear text passwords"?
[23:31] <pozic> test1234: there is a pulse audio configuration application which shows the volume currently recorded.
[23:31] <MethedMan> arand: i don't think that was a good idea
[23:31] <pozic> test1234: you might have to install something for that, but all of that stuff should be documented.
[23:32] <test1234> i see then perhaps my mic is muted in the pulse audio settings.
[23:32] <v3n0w> Hello guys. I have an firewire express card, but I can´t use on ubuntu 10.10, I get no /dev/raw1394 at all =/. I have tried many things already.
[23:32] <test1234> pozic: ok i'll look for pulse audio settings manager or something similar. I'll get back to you later. Tahnks for your help.
[23:32] <test1234> :)
[23:32] <safire> anyone? :D
[23:32] <geus> safire, it means that the password is send in clear text thru the tunnel
[23:32] <safire> but the tunnel is encypted
[23:32] <safire> so it's not a security problem, right?
[23:32] <pozic> test1234: if it did not work out of the box, also report a bug.
[23:33] <MethedMan> arand: the weirdest thing happened when i ran sudo aptitude remove wine -> my graphics and background all changed to something very basic.  it appears to be fine now
[23:33] <geus> safire, yes
[23:33] <test1234> pozic: of the box?
[23:33] <geus> but keyauth is safer
[23:33] <pozic> test1234: that is an expression,
[23:33] <bkerensa> wine is the nasty
[23:33] <test1234> pozic: im not familiar with the meaning of that. please expand
[23:34] <v3n0w> Anyone know how make a firewire express card on ubuntu 10.10?
[23:34] <safire> yeah well
[23:34] <safire> dreamweaver can't do keyauth
[23:34] <mehlo> test1234: i'm using pulse audio applet, found it in repository
[23:34] <KINGOFSWORDS> can xchat connect to more than 1 server?
[23:35] <jacobfogg> I just remember it (the open source code cost estimation image thingy) being an animated gif (or maybe a little tiny piece of flash) where it said how many lines of code, how many developers, estimation of hours spent and how much it would cost to pay someone to develop it for you
[23:36] <pozic> test1234: it means in this case that if you just use a LiveCD and you plugin a microphone and you start some recording app and say something, that it should work.
[23:36] <geus> safire, it should be safe afaik, some more info; just a google though: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ssh-and-clear-text-passwords-723424/
[23:36] <test1234> mehlo: I'm not sure how you found it. Can you specify?
[23:36] <pozic> test1234: if it doesn't you can annoy the developers.
[23:36] <test1234> mehlo: I'm quite new to ubuntu
[23:36] <test1234> pozic: duly noted. :)
[23:36] <pozic> test1234: perhaps you want to read a book on basic Linux usage.
[23:37] <optidude> cool finally made it
[23:37] <optidude> lol
[23:37] <test1234> pozic: perhaps. i like this sort of interaction and exchange of information.
[23:37] <test1234> pozic: but you're of course right.
[23:37] <optidude> so excited about Ubuntu...now have to get it installed...LOL
[23:37] <test1234> pozic: anything you might suggest?
[23:38] <pozic> test1234: it really doesn't matter.
[23:38] <pozic> test1234: anything written by anyone would help.
[23:38] <mehlo> test1234: so am i :-) as i'm using kubuntu (ubuntu with kde desktop), run Software Mangement (kPackageKit), look in Multimedia
[23:39] <test1234> mehlo: ok thanks mate
[23:39] <test1234> pozic: hehe :)
[23:39] <pozic> Is there an application which returns a list of KB/s per application sent and received?
[23:40] <mehlo> test1234: there are PulseAudio Device Chooser, PulseAudio Manager, PulseAudio Volume Control... install them and there you are :-)
[23:40] <pozic> test1234: there is apt-file which is also useful.
[23:40] <pozic> test1234: apt-get install apt-file, IIRC.
[23:40] <gzmask> hello folk, I ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:niemeyer/ppa" but now I can't remove it with "sudo ppa-purge ppa:niemeyer/ppa". Am I doing something wrong?
[23:41] <hal_> hi
[23:41] <test1234> pozic: what is the meaning of IIRC?  and is "apt-file" a generic expression for the file you are suggesting i get?
[23:41] <mehlo> test1234: in gnome, use Package Manager (Synaptic)
[23:41] <pozic> test1234: heh, you sound like a machine.
[23:41] <KNUBBIG> gzmask, if you have ppa-purge installed I think it would be "sudo ppa-purge ppa:niemeyer"
[23:42] <test1234> pozic: just trying to be as clear as possible. :)
[23:43] <Uncle|Sam> ... the 11.04 beta completely deactivates my wlan card. is there anyone who knows how i connect my wlan card again? till today i only can connect it by pressing the wlan button inside windows
[23:43] <gzmask> KNUBBIG: I did install ppa-purge 2.6 from deb. I tried that and still says "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ppa:niemeyer ppa:niemeyer"
[23:43] <test1234> mehlo: the package manager seems quite complicated
[23:43] <Adis34> Hello
[23:43] <goguy> hey guys i need some help, i have an ati radeon hd card i enabled i think xinerama and now the control center wont work
[23:43] <test1234> mehlo: im going to try and get the applications you suggested first. Thanks.
[23:43] <goguy> is there a way to undo that?
[23:43] <Adis34> I need some help booting Windows OS instead of Ubuntu for a few minutes
[23:44] <mehlo> test1234: you think so? in kde, it's very easy, just browse the archives and click on what you like :-) those apps could be found in your package manager under multimedia
[23:45] <goguy> this is in gnome 10.10
[23:45] <goguy> 64 bit
[23:45] <Adis34> I dont have a menu.lst file, how do I change what OS Grub boots?
[23:45] <mehlo> adis34: restart and pick another boot option :-)
[23:45] <test1234> mehlo: interesting. perhaps i misunderstood the material.
[23:45] <Adis34> how do i pick another boot option
[23:46] <Adis34> No matter what I change in Boot Manager, it still boots Ubuntu
[23:46] <KNUBBIG> gzmask, sorry, then I have no idea, maybe you can try updating ppa-purge and install it from the official repositories but honestly I've got no idea
[23:46] <pozic> itunes doesn't work via wine here.
[23:46] <mehlo> test1234: when in doubt, google ubuntuforums on pulse audio
[23:46] <gzmask> KNUBBIG: thanks for trying. I will just remove the sources.list.d file then, should work
[23:47] <KNUBBIG> gzmask, that's ballsy :)
[23:48] <KNUBBIG> gzmask, I just tried, sudo ppa-purge ppa:niemeyer/ppa works fine for me
[23:48] <Adis34> How do I change what OS to boot, if I dont have a menu.lst file to change
[23:48] <gzmask> KNUBBIG: might be I am being linked to an outdated version of ppa-purge. removing the files works too
[23:49] <KNUBBIG> gzmask, okay :) the newest version is 0.2.8 for me
[23:49] <pfifo> Adis34, in grub2 its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:49] <Adis34> oh thank you
[23:50] <Superstar> What can I use to test read/write/throughput of a USB-HDD and a HDD?
[23:51] <MethedMan> is there a log that i can view on my machine to monitor all network traffic and all requests to access my machine?
[23:52] <goguy> i have a problem guys, my normal nickname(which is registered on here) is saying it is already in use
[23:52] <pfifo> MethedMan, no, but you can try tcpdump or wireshark
[23:52] <Stew638> hi all
[23:52] <KNUBBIG> Adis34, but you should edit /etc/default/grub to change the default boot entry
[23:52] <pfifo> goguy, /msg nickserv help
[23:52] <alvaro> hi all
[23:52] <pfifo> OHAI GUISE
[23:53] <goguy> pfifo i cant identify because it kicks that name from use
[23:53] <Stew638> A random question, but has anyone dealt with www.luxuryvps.com before? Heard a couple good things but thought id ask around before i order anything
[23:53] <goguy> automatically says its already in use
[23:53] <pfifo> goguy, ask in #help might be a network issue
[23:53] <KNUBBIG> or try /whois'ing your default nick :)
[23:53] <goguy> nvm there we go
[23:53] <itachi> Hey Guys... Im kinda on a PPPOE connection that uses My Lan with a specific mac address that i have... and im new to ubuntu.. any advices at all?
[23:54] <goguy> well
[23:54] <goguy> its a network issue
[23:54] <Adis34> KNBUBBIG how do I know what number to change "setdefault 0" to?
[23:54] <KNUBBIG> Adis34, I always counted for it :|
[23:54] <goguy> i will ask in #help thxs
[23:54] <Adis34> what do you mean?
[23:54] <MethedMan> i have wireshark.  is tcpdump better/easier?
[23:55] <edbian> MethedMan, tcpdump is NOT easier
[23:55] <KNUBBIG> Adis34, I had Ubuntu, Ubuntu restore, Memtest, Memtest console and Windows and wanted it to be Windows so I had to set it to 4
[23:55] <pfifo> MethedMan, no, tcpdump is cli
[23:55] <KNUBBIG> Adis34, I just counted all GRUB entries on boot and then set the correct value
[23:55] <Adis34> I dont see Windows Vista on here though
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> Adis34, your GRUB-2 doesn't detect your Windows? That's not good :x
[23:56] <Adis34> I guess not
[23:56] <geus> MethedMan, are you really interested in monitoring all traffic or do you just want to monitor a few opened ports?
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> Can you access your windows partitions from within Ubuntu?
[23:57] <edbian> KNUBBIG, yes
[23:57] <Adis34> Using testdisk I can
[23:57] <KNUBBIG> edbian, sorry, it was meant as a question towards Adis34
[23:57] <MaRk-I> Adis34: try sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo update-grub
[23:57] <edbian> KNUBBIG, oh, haha
[23:57] <Adis34> Otherwise it wont let me mount it, or force mount
[23:58] <MaRk-I> Adis34: you're on a live cd?
[23:58] <MethedMan> geus: i am interested in monitoring all traffic mainly for academic purposes.  i just want to learn about the capabilities here.
[23:58] <Adis34> No
[23:58] <Adis34> My computer couldn't boot at all, so I had to dload Ubuntu to recover my files
[23:58] <pfifo> MethedMan, why isnt wireshark suitable to your needs?
[23:58] <geus> Got it, wireshark works fine then
[23:59] <JPC68147> so I how do I get the display calibrator to remember my settings and initiate at boot up?
[23:59] <MethedMan> geus: thank you
[23:59] <MethedMan> pfifo: i don't know how to use it yet.  just downloaded it about 4 hours ago.
[23:59] <bastayahijo1> how do I update from beta1 to beta2?