[00:11] <dailyfare> heya im a newb at xubuntu and i'm trying to set up a logitech gaming controller...i've used wine to install the logitech software and no dice, i've looked for the jscalibrator in terminal it no dice...suggestions?
[00:12] <dailyfare> sorry, looking for help installing logitech gamepad
[00:18] <dailyfare> heya can some one help me with a game controller install issue?
[00:30] <eedeep>  I just up upgraded xubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my keyboard shortcuts won't work...most importantly the run program dialog! I've been googling but to no avail...anyone seen this before?
[00:33] <faryshta> dailyfare, usually gamepads are plug and play.
[00:33] <faryshta> dailyfare, in order to use a gamepad you need to plug it before starting the  game console/emulator
[00:34] <faryshta> dailyfare, then just check if any "joysticks" are recognized in the gamelog.
[00:37] <dailyfare> k ill try that , thank you fayshta
[00:37] <dailyfare> sorry faryshta!
[01:06] <philippe_> Hi
[01:06] <philippe_> I need some help
[01:06] <eedeep> don't we all
[01:06] <philippe_> I have just installed xubuntu on my old laptop
[01:07] <Unit193> +1 eedeep
[01:07] <philippe_> t30 with a radeon mobility 7500 graphics card
[01:07] <philippe_> Now when I login for the first time it says I am using a software rasterizer under openGL
[01:08] <philippe_> but when I log out and back in again it changes to MESA DRI r100
[01:09] <philippe_> How can I customise it to use just the software rasterizer all the time? (as it plays nicer with my external monitor with a high res)
[01:27] <philippe_> Anyone there?
[01:27] <eedeep> philippe_: yeah I'm here but sorry I don't know how tohelp you on that one
[01:28] <philippe_> I think  I need to disable DRI but I dont know how
[01:28] <Unit193> !x | philippe_
[01:29] <philippe_> thanks for that ubottu. I have actually got the right resolution using xrandr
[01:30] <philippe_> But because my graphic card is so old when it is used as the renderer I get tearing at 1680x1050 res
[01:31] <philippe_> But it's fine when software rasterizer is implementing the 3d acceleration
[01:32] <philippe_> So I want to know how i can disable 3d accel without purging anything and breaking my distro
[02:04] <philippe> ok I fixed it
[02:05] <philippe> I added Disable "dri" under module in xorg.conf
[02:05] <Unit193> Sweet!
[02:06] <philippe> So now I have a smoooooooth flowing fast distro on a 7 year old laptop :)
[02:07] <philippe> at a lovely high resolution I forgot to add :D
[02:12] <philippe> Just having a play around with xubuntu and it's lightning fast on this old thing
[02:13] <philippe> Was on ubuntu before but definitely can see the difference on XFCE
[02:13] <Unit193> CPU & RAM?
[02:14] <philippe> 1.8Ghz 1gb ram
[02:16] <philippe> I dont feel like it's going to crash on me like Gnome :D
[02:19] <philippe> I have been an ubuntu user since feisty fawn, but when I saw what they are doing with the natty and the unity GUI enough was enough
[02:20]  * Unit193 hasn't use Ubuntu since 6.10
[02:20] <Unit193> K/L/Xubuntu all the way!
[02:25] <philippe> Right I am off to catch some ZZZZzzzzz's
[02:25] <philippe> Take care Xubi's!
[02:25] <philippe> See you around I'm sure :)
[03:14] <xiaoshen> hi all^
[03:17] <likemindead> Ahoy.
[03:19] <xiaoshen> i want to install wine
[03:19] <likemindead> !wine
[03:20] <xiaoshen> likemindead, how to do it?
[03:21] <xiaoshen> apt-get install....
[03:21] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:21] <likemindead> Just follow the above link(s).
[03:27] <xiaoshen> i search wine in sypnatic and it shows a lot of wine name there, which one should i choose?
[03:28] <Unit193> xiaoshen: There should be one just named "wine" or "wine1.2"
[03:28] <likemindead> READ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[03:30] <xiaoshen> Unit193: which one shpuld ichoose  wine or wine1.2?
[03:31] <Unit193> It says in the link likemindead posted, wine
[03:32] <likemindead> Work with us here...
[03:33] <Unit193> I didn't even read it, all I had to do was skim...
[03:41] <xiaoshen> well i read that wine's description is dummy package and wine1.2 is binary emulator and library
[07:09] <wereyodabc> it seem irssi goes to same server and channel using different name than xchat by default which is nice
[07:10] <wereyodabc> xubuntu is over gnomebuntu imho   ;)
[10:31] <quup> Iḿ using the us dvorak international layouts
[10:31] <quup> but itś different layout depending on what keyboard I use, like on my laptop itś with no deadkeys but on my external keyboard itś with
[10:31] <quup> very confusing
[10:31] <quup> I have even removed the with deadkeys from the keyboard layouts
[10:32] <quup> fiddled with the keybaord type options a bit and by chance i now got one that works on both :)
[10:33] <wereyodabc> get new keyboard man ;)
[10:34] <wereyodabc> and change dvorak layoat by you self..
[10:57] <xubuntu420> SHIT THE HELL FUCKIN YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <knome> xubuntu420, please watch your language.
[10:58] <xubuntu420> i have a calico siamese cat that enjoys partaking in cannabis with me
[11:59] <buff27> my display flickers under the pre-release of 11.04 gnome...... I hope to xubuntu one doesn't get the black fickering issue
[14:33] <attackulz> anyone around for some help?
[14:33] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[14:34] <charlie-tca> attackulz: most of us have given up trying to figure out issues when the question is not asked.
[14:35] <attackulz> I installed Xubuntu on an older computer and have had ubuntu on my new laptop for quite some time now.  I have a linksys wireless G network card for the older desktop. when I plug it in it powers up but xubuntu cannot find any wireless networks. or even show that its working. however when I plug the wireless adapter into my laptop it works perfectly.  so A. is there a way to get this network adapter to work on xubunu. and if not can I harvest the dr
[14:35] <attackulz> ivers from this machine to the other
[14:36] <attackulz> charlie: i was typing it all in one line.
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[14:37] <charlie-tca> Did you have to install drivers for the laptop to work?
[14:37] <attackulz> no
[14:37] <attackulz> plug in and play
[14:37] <charlie-tca> Then those drivers should already be installed
[14:37] <attackulz> I figured it might be becuase I already have an active internet connection on this machine
[14:37] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu?
[14:37] <attackulz> the latest
[14:37] <attackulz> downloaded last week
[14:38] <charlie-tca> You could try unplugging the wired connection with the wireless card in the desktop
[14:38] <charlie-tca> many times, it will look for wired only, if there is a cable plugged in.
[14:39] <charlie-tca> I have to tell my wireless card which network to connect to, here.
[14:39] <attackulz> there was no wired connection in it
[14:40] <attackulz> my building shares a router. I have no access to any ethernet cord on this level
[14:40] <charlie-tca> Do you get the icon on the panel?
[14:40] <attackulz> not the wireless
[14:40] <attackulz> only has the option for wired and vpn
[14:41] <attackulz> the power light on the adapter does come on when its pluged in however
[14:41] <charlie-tca> The desktop is not seeing the adapter?
[14:41] <charlie-tca> what does lspci show for the wireless card?
[14:41] <charlie-tca> in the desktop, of course
[14:42] <attackulz> yeah the desktop does not see the the adapter
[14:42] <attackulz> and one sec gotta go to other room
[14:45] <attackulz> nothing
[14:45] <attackulz> shows that something is pluged into usb
[14:45] <attackulz> but I dont think it knows what
[14:46] <attackulz> other then that for network devices all its showing is my ethernet
[14:46] <attackulz> thanks for the help by the way!
[14:48] <charlie-tca> I am not able to help more, though.
[14:48] <charlie-tca> I can suggest either waiting for more knowledgeable people here or trying #ubuntu-beginners
[14:49] <charlie-tca> the -beginners has some very knowledgeable people in it when it comes to getting these working
[14:49] <attackulz> alright
[14:49] <attackulz> how about moving the driver from this laptop to the desktop?
[14:49] <charlie-tca> It won't make the adapter show up
[14:49] <attackulz> possible?
[14:50] <charlie-tca> first you have to make the desk
[14:50] <charlie-tca> desktop see the adapter
[14:50] <charlie-tca> If it sees it, it will probably work
[14:50] <attackulz> it sees there is somthing pluged in
[14:50] <attackulz> but it doesnt know what
[14:50] <attackulz> so if I somehow get the drivers from here
[14:50] <attackulz> I think it should work
[14:50] <charlie-tca> hm, Is that by any chance a USB 2.0 adapter on a 1.1 port
[14:51] <attackulz> no checked that
[14:51] <charlie-tca> If you have a driver for a device the computer does not recognize, it won't do anything. The driver is built into Xubuntu
[14:52] <charlie-tca> You have many printer drivers, too, but you won't see it list all the printers, because it doesn't see them as hardware
[14:52] <attackulz> see i know for a fact too that if I had windows on here, with that software installed then ran xubunutu as a seccondary OS it WOULd find the drivers
[14:52] <charlie-tca> Okayh
[14:53] <attackulz> alright thanks for the help
[14:54] <attackulz> you suggested that already and I told you I have NO wired connection
[15:23] <quup> can I make a keyboard shortcut to toggle always on top?
[15:26] <quup> looking at the xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts/xfwm4 settings I just get confused
[15:27] <quup> the property is stuff like alt+F12 but the value is an action
[15:27] <charlie-tca> right, when it says action, do what you need to make it happen
[15:29] <quup> I aded a new property
[15:29] <quup> that did the trick
[15:33] <drc> If I have a browser open on desktop 1, and click on a link in an app (say, xchat or thunderbird) on desktop 2, the link is opened in the running browser, but the browser is moved to desktop 2.  Is this 1) Feature, 2) Bug, 3) A clear sign that I'm crazy because it never happens on anyone else's machine?
[15:34] <charlie-tca> quup: not to intuitive, when it comes to the ACTION, huh?
[15:34] <quup> charlie-tca: not at all :)
[15:34] <charlie-tca> feature of firefox, drc
[15:34] <charlie-tca> However, you can control it somewhat with Xubuntu
[15:36] <charlie-tca> drc: Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks -> focus, when a window raises itself, do nothing
[15:37] <charlie-tca> also there is a setting if Firefox, Edit -> Tabs, uncheck When I open a link in a new tab, switch to it immediately
[15:38] <charlie-tca> quup: there is bug filed in xfce bugzilla to get some better help text on the ACTION part
[15:38] <drc> charlie-tca: Thanks.
[16:17] <ljsoftnet> how do i fix my boot up problem, it just shows a bunch of text with no xubuntu logo
[18:00] <quup> sometimes that upper panel goes black
[18:00] <quup> and I have to put a windows always on top and use it to force a redraw or something
[18:01] <quup> also now I have two volume indicators, or one volume thing and the other is the indicator plugin, but they look the same but are not the same
[18:04] <drc> quup: I use Settings>Session and Startup>App Autostart and uncheck Volume Control (Show Desktop Colume Control) to get rid of the non-Indicator one.  I don't think you can get rid of the Indicator Plugin one w/o getting rid of the Indicator Plugin (and thus NM :(
[18:05] <quup> ok, one is good :)
[18:06] <drc> quup: Just make sure you don't uncheck the XFCE Volume Daemon
[18:07] <quup> where do i start debuging if suspend dosen't work?  it looks like it is suspending just fine, but when I try to activate it agian it just reboots
[18:08] <drc> Dunno...I don't use suspend/hibernate...I'm either at the computer or it's off :)
[18:08] <drc> Usually at....
[18:43] <quup> I plugged in external drive, and it mounted automatically
[18:43] <quup> but I don't have permission to unmount it from the file manager
[18:43] <quup> hrm. now it worked.... dunno what was going on there
[18:45] <drc> Parential Controls?
[19:01] <drc> quup: all external drives or just that one?
[19:01] <quup> I don't know, I can't reproduce it
[19:01] <quup> could have just been weirdness
[19:03] <drc> Well, let's call it a bug, just so the Xubuntu Team won't feel like they have nothing to do (i.e., smug :) on beta2 ?
[19:34] <drc> Woah....Just rebooted after daily update...Now only <one> desktop...trying to increase the number in Workspaces does nothing.  <sad>Worked this morning in b2</sad>
[19:34] <likemindead> Running 11.04?
[19:34] <drc> yes b2
[19:36] <drc> Trying Windows-Problem-Solving-Techniques...i.e., re-boot :)
[19:42] <drc> Double Woah...now 1) All open windows act like Unity (global menus?...overlay the top panel with theor menu bar); 2) Window Manager (and Tweaks) window opens but displays nothing.
[19:44] <drc> Ok...11.04b2...updated just a few minutes ago via Update Manager.
[19:47]  * drc says: "NOOOOOOOOO, I just re-installed last night." :)  Goes out for a smoke to calm down.
[20:00] <drc> http://img862.imageshack.us/i/screenshot0415201101532.png/  http://img641.imageshack.us/i/screenshot0415201101540.png/  http://img31.imageshack.us/i/screenshot0415201101543.png/  http://img15.imageshack.us/i/screenshot0415201101550.png/
[20:10]  * drc only hopes this is something <he's> done to his box....That's easily fixed.
[20:12] <charlie-tca> drc: you have no windows title bar?
[20:12] <charlie-tca> easy
[20:12] <drc> charlie-tca: Because <you> know what you are doing....
[20:13] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, xfsettingsd
[20:13] <charlie-tca> and it won't really work in terminal, for some reason
[20:15] <charlie-tca> did it work?
[20:15] <drc> charlie-tca: You really need to change your nick...I type 'cha' and alsways get Chanserv :(
[20:15] <drc> Nope...do I need to re-start something?
[20:16] <charlie-tca> no, let's try something else
[20:16] <drc> I think scary-charlie was good.
[20:17] <knome> drc, or you need to change your client - irssi remembers the last used nick when you type in c[tab]
[20:17] <knome> drc, then it fills out charlie-tca if you used that the last time
[20:17] <charlie-tca> alt+F2, xfce4-settings-helper
[20:17] <drc> knome: But it's easier (for me :) if someone else does the work.
[20:18] <drc>  charlie-tca nope
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Never occurred to me that would give you Chanserv
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, xfce4-session
[20:19] <charlie-tca> what did you do to this thing?
[20:19] <charlie-tca> maybe it is broke bad
[20:19] <drc> charlie-tca: I have no idea.
[20:20] <drc> I'm trying to think what I have dome this past hour or so since the last re-boot
[20:21] <drc> Luckily, most of it was back data up to my archives :)
[20:22] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, xfwm4
[20:22] <charlie-tca> Alt+F4, xfdesktop4
[20:22] <charlie-tca> no
[20:23] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, xfdesktop4
[20:23] <drc> Bingo (on the xfwm4)
[20:23] <charlie-tca> Had to be one of them
[20:23] <drc> Now, What cold I have possibly dome to bork it that bad?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> you got xfwm not to start
[20:23] <drc> Beside not knowing how to spell/type?
[20:24] <charlie-tca> I went a long time having to go through those every restarty
[20:26] <drc> Anyway, Thanks...I'm going to have to drink and entire six-pack for you tonight :)
[20:27] <charlie-tca> thanks
[20:27] <drc> Thank me tomorrow when you have a headache.
[20:27] <charlie-tca> Okay
[20:27] <charlie-tca> :-)
[20:28]  * drc sometimes feels like the Swedish Chef.
[20:29] <charlie-tca> huh? Swedish chef have to drink a six-pack too?
[20:29] <drc> no.   Bork, Bork, Bork.
[20:29] <charlie-tca> lol
[20:29] <drc> Muppets
[20:32] <drc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo
[20:44]  * ArjenTM tips his hat
[20:50] <philippe> Hi
[20:50] <philippe> I need some help
[20:51] <knome> philippe, ask and we'll help if we can
[20:51] <philippe> What is the best Email notification for xubuntu that runs in the taskbar, so I don't have to have thunderbird open all the time eating up CPU and RAM?
[20:56] <philippe> 64 online and not a squeak. Where's that xubuntu mouse when you need him eh?
[20:58] <ArjenTM> Haha. :]
[20:58] <charlie-tca> hm, I would think no one really has an answer for you
[20:59] <charlie-tca> I hate those things in the taskbar, so make sure I turn off all of them
[20:59] <ArjenTM> I also had a question. I was trying out 11.04 b2 on an old laptop. Things were fine until the power got cut while I was installing updates after. After that I couldn't get past GRUB. :<
[20:59] <charlie-tca> You can reinstall grub, if it is what is sticking
[21:00] <philippe> Did you back everything up Arjen?
[21:00] <ArjenTM> It was a clean install
[21:00] <ArjenTM> So no worries there
[21:00] <charlie-tca> otherwise, boot to the recovery mode and choose fix packages
[21:01] <philippe> Thanks for the replies. I need to head out now.
[21:01] <philippe> See you around my fellow Xubi's!
[21:01] <ArjenTM> I'll try that next. Right now it's just reinstalling after repartitioning via the live CD :<
[21:01] <charlie-tca> Sometimes when that happens, you have to go to recovery mode a couple of times, and then reboot a few times
[21:01] <quup> xfce terminal has some very weird behaviour
[21:01] <quup> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[21:01] <quup> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y^Hn
[21:01] <charlie-tca> ArjenTM: that works too :-)
[21:01] <quup> I did Y changed my mind, then n
[21:01] <quup> = yes
[21:02] <charlie-tca> quup: if you told it y first, that sticks
[21:02] <quup> charlie-tca: not if backspace is backspace and not ^H
[21:02] <ArjenTM> I'm just a noob, but all the googling seemed to suggest that it fuxxed something on my swap, and I couldn't fsck that. D:
[21:03] <ArjenTM> And I couldn't find out how to format the swap during the install xD
[21:04] <muay-guy> hey guys, I'm having some issues with my eeepc, No sound whatsoever
[21:04] <muay-guy> everything else works fine
[21:05] <charlie-tca> ArjenTM: if you use an existing swap partition, it is automatically formated
[21:05] <charlie-tca> muay-guy: install pavcontrol
[21:05] <charlie-tca> pavucontrol ?
[21:05] <muay-guy> pavucontrol?
[21:05] <muay-guy> I'll check it out
[21:05] <charlie-tca> I think pavucontrol
[21:06] <ArjenTM> That's really odd. :/ Is there anything it doesn't format with a "erase natty and reinstall xubu 11.04"? Because I tried that before this, but I still couldn't boot. :[
[21:06] <muay-guy> charlie-tca, it's installed, and it seems to be working
[21:07] <muay-guy> I'm watching this video and the bar moves and all
[21:07] <muay-guy> but I still hear no sound
[21:07] <charlie-tca> ArjenTM: yes
[21:07] <charlie-tca> that should not touch your /home files
[21:08] <charlie-tca> I usually pick the "erase entire disk" option
[21:08] <ArjenTM> Hmmm. Is there anything there that would give me the "recursive error, reboot needed" error? :/
[21:08] <charlie-tca> but if you can't get it to work, you have to remove ~/.cache and maybe ~/.config
[21:09] <muay-guy> weird thing... and I try with the headphones and i still can't hear anything
[21:09] <drc> muay-guy: Sounds obvious, but...you haven't got the mute on somewhere by chance?
[21:10] <ArjenTM> Well, right now it's reinstalling completely, I formatted the whole drive to NTFS, now back to ext4 & swap... *crosses fingers* =)
[21:10] <muay-guy> drc, no man... I haven't
[21:13] <charlie-tca> Anytime things get interrupted, it ís possible an error will happen like that
[21:13] <ArjenTM> Thanks for the answers, charlie-tca x]
[21:14] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:15]  * ArjenTM dances oZ-< ... Almost theeere. xD
[21:15] <ArjenTM> I've spent way too much time on this today, bwahah. :P
[21:16] <muay-guy> where do you guys think I could check for an answer to my audio probloems?
[21:17] <charlie-tca> MIght be more help for that in #ubuntu-audio
[21:17] <charlie-tca> They are the sound experts
[21:17] <muay-guy> charlie-tca, lol, you're kidding me, right?
[21:17] <muay-guy> I'm the only one there
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Let me look, maybe I got it wrong
[21:19] <charlie-tca> muay-guy: I am sorry, gave you the wrong channel. Try #ubuntu-audio-help
[21:19] <charlie-tca> I seem to have missed the -help that time
[21:19] <charlie-tca> Is that better?
[21:20] <muay-guy> no prob, cool. I get my leg pulled a lot on irc
[21:20] <charlie-tca> I try not to do that. I hate sending someone where they can not get help
[21:21] <muay-guy> this is a freak bug though,.. I had no sound problems with any other os on this computer
[21:22] <charlie-tca> Sometimes sound can be really hard to make work, on some hardware.
[21:33]  * ArjenTM cries.
[21:33] <ArjenTM> I'm just frozen on a purple (guessing grub) screen. :<
[21:34] <charlie-tca> okay, what did you see right before that?
[21:35] <ArjenTM> No grub screen
[21:35] <charlie-tca> ArjenTM: and it is still purple?
[21:35] <ArjenTM> It is
[21:36] <charlie-tca> okay, When the computer starts, you should see a purple screen with a couple of symbols at the bottom. hold right-shift right after bios checks to try and get the grub menu
[21:37] <ArjenTM> Okay. I see the grub menu now.
[21:37] <ArjenTM> 2.6.38-8 generic, recovery mode, and the memtests.
[21:37] <charlie-tca> pick recovery mode
[21:38] <charlie-tca> let's see what it does
[21:38] <charlie-tca> it should grind a bit, then stop at another menu
[21:38] <ArjenTM> :< The same error as before.
[21:38] <charlie-tca> what error?
[21:38] <ArjenTM> end trace, then the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[21:41] <charlie-tca> ArjenTM: reboot, run mem test
[21:44] <ArjenTM> O.O I picked memtest and it rebooted.
[21:44] <ArjenTM> ...Thatsnotgood.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> that's not your hardware, that's a software issue
[21:45]  * ArjenTM wipes his forehead. Okay.
[21:46] <charlie-tca> back to recovery mode
[21:46] <charlie-tca> that's natty, right?
[21:46] <ArjenTM> Yes
[21:47] <ArjenTM> I can't seem to input anything in recovery mode though.
[21:48] <charlie-tca> did it get to the menu?
[21:48] <charlie-tca> recovery mode has a nice menu , if you get that far
[21:48] <charlie-tca> you use arrows to move up and down through the menu items
[21:50] <ArjenTM> It didn't
[21:50] <ArjenTM> It seems to just freeze after that one line
[21:50] <ArjenTM> The end trace <string here>, then the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[21:52] <ArjenTM> I'm confused what the problem is and why it's there since it booted before =\
[21:56] <charlie-tca> I can not find an easy fix to it either.
[21:56] <charlie-tca> appears to be either bios or hardware, though.
[21:57] <charlie-tca> Have you powered it down completely and restarted?
[21:57] <ArjenTM> I have
[21:57] <ArjenTM> I'd already removed the battery
[21:57] <ArjenTM> And I have to power it down before I can reboot since it's 'stuck' before it gets to the recovery console
[21:57] <ArjenTM> Just a blinking cursor. :(
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Are you using an external drive?
[21:59] <ArjenTM> No external drive, just the lappy one
[22:04] <charlie-tca> The only thing I seem to be able to find on this is to try 10.10
[22:06] <charlie-tca> anyone got any ideas how to fix the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed" error?
[22:11] <metroid1> if i want to upgrade to the 11.04 beta what is the best way to do it?
[22:13] <metroid1> is update-manager -d recommended, as it is for ubuntu?
[22:15] <charlie-tca> yes, as is reading the release notes
[22:15] <metroid1> zing
[22:15] <metroid1> thanks
[22:18] <metroid1> aside from the usual disclaimers how stable is it right now?
[22:36] <ArjenTM> :( This makes me sad.
[22:42] <drc> Turn that frown upside down...beer usually works.
[22:45] <ArjenTM> I'm having a smoke, also cheers me up. But I'm still sad I can't get it to boot.
[22:53] <drc> Well then, I'll drink a beer for you...let's see, that's 6 for charlie-tca  and 1 for you...time for a beer run.
[22:53] <ArjenTM> Haha :)
[22:53]  * ArjenTM makes some paper and some books, then continues to build a bookcase.