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danubio_helppp 03:16
danubio_need install a sh file03:16
danubio_I put ./configure03:16
danubio_now have install-sh file03:17
danubio_need install it03:17
yofeldanubio_: support is in #kubuntu03:18
c2tarunI am facing a very serious problem with natty. anyone here.04:49
c2tarunRiddell: ping04:49
c2tarunPrevious releases like lucid and maverick never detected my wifi driver. Natty detected, but when it starts it tries to connect to the wifi connection available and then I get a black screen with many things written on it.( Can't understand them ) and then screen freezes :/04:51
c2tarunNow I switched of my wifi and using the same connection with wire and installing the broadcom driver. Lets see if this works or not.  I am facing this problem with Beta1 as well as Beta2 64-bit04:53
valoriec2tarun: riddell is gone until Monday night05:18
valorieyou will get better luck with #ubuntu+105:18
c2tarunvalorie: ohh.... :(05:19
c2tarun#ubuntu+1 means? is this a channel?05:19
valoriejust for natty05:20
valoriewell, just for "whatever is in testing"05:20
c2tarunvalorie: ok, I'll ask there05:20
valoriethey've been good to me in the past05:22
c2tarunhow can I change my default network manager05:31
valorielike, use wicd?05:31
c2tarunvalorie: yup05:32
c2tarunhow can I shut down my kde network manager for a while?05:32
valorieI have used it in the past, however, had to uninstall it to get knetworkmanager working right in Mav.05:32
valoriethe thing is, to get wicD working, you might have to do that same with knetwork05:33
valoriebit of a connundrum05:33
valorieI'm not sure how you would do that05:33
valoriewicd "just worked" in lucid05:34
valorieand in Mav, just didn't05:34
valorieeven with a wire05:34
c2tarunvalorie: still I have to give it a try because my network manager is simply freezing my system :/05:35
valoriethat's awful05:35
c2tarunstrange thing is, my network manager was working fine at night :/ it isn't working since morning05:39
valoriethat sounds like my freaking sound!05:40
valorieI got my sound going again05:40
valorieso, have you tried your network manager from a new user?05:40
c2tarunvalorie: nope not yet.05:40
valoriethat was how I got my sound going again05:40
ScottKThere was a new network-manager upload yesterday.  I'd try downgrading and see if it gets better.05:41
c2tarunScottK: how can I downgrade?05:41
ScottKDownload the old .deb from Launchpad, copy it onto your system and then install it.05:42
ScottKsudo dpkg -i filename.deb05:42
c2tarunScottK: will it replace the new version?05:42
c2tarunScottK: how can I check my current version?05:45
ScottKYou have wired network on the machine, right?05:45
c2tarunScottK: yup05:45
ScottKSimplest way is just to upgrade.  If it doesn't offer you a newer on, then you've got the latest.05:46
c2tarunScottK: I already tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:46
c2tarunits getting me nothing05:46
ScottKThen you've got the newest.05:46
ScottKYou probably got a new one yesterday or earlier today05:47
c2tarunScottK: one more strange thing, I upgraded my system in night, but I got beta1 installed in other partition and I havent upgraded it in last few days, suddenly it also started facing this problem.05:47
ScottKThat is a bit odd.05:48
ScottKThat makes it sound more like hardware.05:48
ScottKHow else would two separate installs be affected?05:48
c2tarunScottK: anyway, I can get the older versio from this link? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/network-manager05:50
c2tarunScottK: on running aptitude show networkmanager | grep Version I am getting "Unable to locate package networkmanager"05:51
ScottKnetwork-manager is the source package name.  You have to look and find the binary package names.05:52
ScottKGood luck.05:52
ScottKI need to get to sleep.05:52
valoriesweet dreams, ScottK05:52
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c2tarunvalorie: ping07:08
c2tarunany one using wifi connection with kubuntu 11.04 beta2 64-bit?07:09
valorieI'm still on mav07:10
c2tarunvalorie: I just installed mav on a separate partition and wifi is working fine here :/ (no hardware problem) I installed wicd on natty and it also freezed while connecting with wifi :/07:14
* c2tarun rebooting and going to natty07:14
valoriethat does not sound good at all07:16
c2tarunvalorie: great :/ now I am not even able to start natty. after the blue splash screen I am getting the blank screen :/07:23
valorieI hope you are filing bugs for this stuff07:26
c2tarunnope, I was still struggling with these stuffs :/07:27
c2tarunvalorie: I have to write a full story for everything :/07:28
MamarokI have no working WiFi on Natty07:37
Mamaroknothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick07:38
valorieheh, that's just what c2tarun is reporting07:38
valoriehe said the same thing07:38
Mamarokit shows one "Hidden network" wile it should show at least 6 unhidden ones07:38
MamarokI guess the scanner doesn't work07:39
valoriemaybe the radio doesn't get turned on07:39
Mamarokwell, it can show a hidden network07:40
Mamarokbut I will try by hand07:40
valoriehe tried wicd, and that didn't work either07:40
Mamarokthen it is most likely a missing driver, but I had that installed previously, maybe they changed soething in the kernel07:48
Mamarokanother possibility is that they already switched to iw instead of iwconfig...07:50
Mamarokvalorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/72218508:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:34
Mamarokthere already is a fix that was sent upstream08:35
valorieoh cool08:35
valorieif c2tarun ever makes it back, I'll tell him08:35
valorieI downloaded beta 2 today, but I don't think I'll be trying it for awhile08:36
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c2tarunanyone using wifi connection with kubuntu natty beta2 64 bit09:54
valoriec2tarun: let me paste you something10:14
valorie[00:34] <Mamarok> valorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/72218510:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:14
valorie[00:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:14
valorie[00:35] <Mamarok> there already is a fix that was sent upstream10:14
valoriemyriam had the same bug as you10:15
c2tarunvalorie: not exactly10:16
c2tarunmyriam's kernel is not detecting any wifi. mine is detecting but freezing on connecting.10:17
valorie[23:37] <Mamarok> I have no working WiFi on Natty10:17
valorie[23:38] <Mamarok> nothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick10:17
valorieah, ok10:17
valorieyou have partly the same, and partly different then10:17
valoriebut both sucking10:18
c2tarunvalorie: should I reinstall natty?10:18
valorieshe said it isn't fixed yet10:19
valorieI think you should wait until you hear in channel that it is fixed10:19
valoriethat's what I would do, anyway.....10:20
c2tarunvalorie: sure :/10:20
c2tarunvalorie: do you know how I can make a partition mount automatically?10:21
valoriehmm, no I don't10:25
valoriebut I bet some people in #kubuntu know10:25
valorieor google land.....10:25
c2tarunthanks :)10:25
valorieoh, have you run grub-update?10:28
valorieyou should be able to choose, right?10:28
c2tarunvalorie: well grub detected natty but on opening it I am getting blank screen after splash screen.10:30
valorieright, but you want mav instead then, right?10:31
c2tarunvalorie: actually I installed mav on separate partition and natty on separate, according to me both should work. when choosing mav from the menu its working but when choosing natty I am getting blank screen10:44
valorieyeah, natty sounds totally borked10:48
valorieare you doing beta2, or from dailies?10:48
c2tarunvalorie: beta210:53
valorieso rebuilding it won't change anything10:54
valorieunless maybe logging in as a new user?10:54
c2tarunvalorie: I am not getting the screen on which I have to enter username and psswd :(10:56
valoriehave you tried holding down escape during boot, so you can get into tty?10:57
valorieI guess you would have to log in as yourslef, adduser, log out10:58
valoriebut still worth a try, right?10:58
* c2tarun going trying :)10:58
shadeslayerAnyone taking up PIM?11:50
shadeslayerokay, i'll take it up then11:51
shadeslayerRiddell: Ubuntu should switch to using MediaWiki :P12:23
yofelI doin't care what, just anything other than moinmoin12:37
shadeslayerhmm .. should i upload KDE PIM to ninjas first and then to experimental or directly to experimental12:43
yofelput it in ninjas and at least make sure it installs right first I would say12:45
c2tarunshadeslayer: ping12:47
c2tarunare you using a wifi connection?12:47
c2tarunshadeslayer: ^12:47
c2tarunshadeslayer: natty 64bit?12:48
yofelc2tarun: what kind of card, and what's the syslog output when connecting?12:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: it seems ... i've lost the email you sent me with the keys signed12:49
c2tarunyofel: dont know :( I am not on natty, even I am not able to start natty. 12:49
c2tarunwhenever natty is trying to connect to wifi connection system freezes :/12:49
c2tarunthen I installed mav12:49
shadeslayeroh my12:49
c2tarunand now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialod12:50
c2tarunand now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialog12:50
c2tarunmaverick and natty are on separate partitions12:51
c2tarunshadeslayer, yofel: ^^ can you guys tell what is happening?12:52
yofelif you hold the notebook against the light and still see something on the screen then the backlight is only turned off - file a bug against the kernel I think and try an older one12:52
shadeslayerc2tarun: what do you get?12:52
shadeslayerc2tarun: oh .. the screen brightness is 0 ?12:53
c2tarunyofel: if we run only sudo shutdown 0 and no -h we get same type of black screen.12:53
c2tarunshadeslayer: ^^12:53
yofelno idea thne12:53
shadeslayerc2tarun: do you get a TTY or something?12:54
c2tarunshadeslayer: not since morning but yesterday I got it few times. My network-manager started troubling me since morning12:54
shadeslayerwhat was the last thing you did before the problem occured?12:55
shadeslayerupgrades etc 12:55
c2tarunI was told that latest version of network-manager is added yesterday and that might creating problem. But I got beta1 on separate partition and it also started giving same problem.12:55
c2tarunshadeslayer: then I removed network-manager and installed wicd and then again the same problem.12:56
c2tarunwicd also freezing while connecting to wifi network.12:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: lolz : gpg: BAD signature from "Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com>"13:00
shadeslayerc2tarun: what card?13:02
c2tarunshadeslayer: : sorry I got disconnected.13:10
shadeslayerc2tarun: what card?13:10
c2tarunshadeslayer: Broadcom13:11
c2tarunshadeslayer: sorry :/13:11
c2tarunwhat do you mean?13:11
shadeslayerc2tarun: broadcom cards are sucky13:11
shadeslayerdrivers are not very good atm13:11
c2tarunshadeslayer: they are embeded in my laptop, I cant get them changed :( any solution?13:12
shadeslayeronly workaround is the STA Driver i believe13:12
c2tarunshadeslayer: yup13:13
c2tarunshadeslayer: actually in lucid and mav I have to install broadcom sta drivers, but natty first detected my wifi automatically.13:13
c2tarunshadeslayer: but now its creating problem13:13
shadeslayerc2tarun: so you can't even get into a tty in natty?13:14
c2tarunshadeslayer: yup13:14
shadeslayerit is so flipping hot here13:14
shadeslayerkubotu: weather Gurgaon, India13:14
* shadeslayer kicks kubotu13:15
c2tarun:) kubotu can't change the weather. and its unlickly to change before next 3-4 months 13:15
shadeslayerbah ... weather module is blacklisted13:16
c2tarunshadeslayer: I think I am facing this bug 73400813:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 734008 in linux (Ubuntu) "ubuntu natty freezes when connecting to wifi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73400813:16
shadeslayerc2tarun: no idea, i've never had to deal with such stuff13:18
shadeslayer<3 Intel13:18
c2tarun:( guess I have to stick to maverick till then13:19
shadeslayeryofel: i'm pondering on adding dblatex to kdepim13:34
shadeslayerrefer : http://paste.kde.org/1262213:35
yofelI don't see a problem with that, it's in main after all13:38
shadeslayeryeah, that's why i needed another opinion :)13:39
shadeslayeryofel: btw unpacking stuff on your thinkpad is lightning fast ... does it have a SSD or something?13:39
yofelmy server? no13:40
yofelblame the disk cache I would say13:40
shadeslayeryeah .. then how does it take so little time to unpack stuff13:40
shadeslayeryofel: no .. *unpacking* archives13:40
shadeslayeryofel: tmpfs   /tmp    tmpfs   rw,size=8G  0   0 << that's the reason i think13:42
shadeslayeror rather : tmpfs   /var/cache/pbuilder/build    tmpfs   rw,size=7G  0   013:42
yofelah yeah, *that* would be a reason ^^13:43
shadeslayerany improvements on mounting /tmp into the RAM?13:43
shadeslayerand is that line all i need to mount my /tmp into my pc's RAM?13:44
shadeslayeryofel: how about .. in neonmake, mount the build dir to tmpfs to speed stuff up?13:52
yofelshadeslayer: see my fstab for the line, but I mount /tmp as tmpfs out of habit usually, except on my SSD, there it's to prevent nonsense writes to the card13:58
shadeslayeryofel: any ideas how to manually mount each and every build dir ( before it starts building ) ?14:00
yofeland neonmake.... a) you need sudo for mount b) I can't think of a reliable way to make sure there is enough space there. As some users actually don't use swap14:00
shadeslayerreally? can't i just mount a certain folder on my drive to the RAM without sudo?14:00
yofelmount tells me it needs sudo, you can mount stuff as a user if there's a fstab line with the user option in it14:01
shadeslayerah .. hmm 14:01
yofelwell, manual mount would be:14:02
yofelsudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs tmp/14:02
yofelor sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs -o size=8G tmp/14:02
yofelso, while tmpfs makes sense for pbuilder as it needs to install a ton of stuff, the disk I/O for usual builds isn't that high, so I don't see the sense in doing that14:04
shadeslayeroh .. 14:07
jussishadeslayer: study! ;P14:08
shadeslayerexams are over :P14:08
bambeeAre there cmake macros to install .conf and .policy files for dbus ?14:08
bambee(I should probably ask on #kde-devel...)14:08
c2tarunbambee: hi :)16:15
c2tarunthere is still no work around?16:15
shadeslayerc2tarun: well.. i just finished PIM ... so that's out of the question :P16:16
shadeslayerfix bugs16:16
c2tarunshadeslayer:  :) yeah you are always very fast.16:16
shadeslayerc2tarun: no.. PIM was released to kde packager more than a week back16:17
shadeslayeri just got around to doing it16:17
c2tarunshadeslayer: well I am not on kde packagers list :/ so I didn't got the mail16:17
shadeslayerc2tarun: file a sysadmin bug report and tell them you package stuff for kubuntu16:17
shadeslayerbug report would go in bugs.kde.org16:18
c2tarunshadeslayer: I did that. Riddell commented that he want that list reserved for kubuntu-members.16:18
shadeslayerdidn't know that16:18
shadeslayer*sigh* ... docbook stuff16:19
c2tarunIf I add any repository by sudo add-apt-repository. why cant I see it in sources.list?16:32
c2tarunon this https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages page there are many packages with newer versions available written in from of their name. what does it mean?16:37
jussidoes anyone know if the natty usb creator got fixed? 16:43
c2tarunjussi: if you mean startup disk creator than I used it in morning.16:44
c2tarunit was working then16:44
jussiok :)16:45
shadeslayermarkey: poke16:53
shadeslayermarkey: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=73999 >> still not fixed :(16:54
ryanakcaAny ideas on what I should do with the kobby/libqinfinity packages? Upstream hasn't commited anything in over a year, my bug-fixes merge request has been untouched for a year this Monday, Kobby and libqinfinity are broken in Debian because libqinfinity-0.4 was replaced with libqinfinity-0.5. Prod upstream and if unsuccessful, get rid of them?18:08
ScottKThat or become upstream.18:09
ryanakcaScottK: Alright, thanks18:10
* shadeslayer has a headache from all the pyth0rn he just learn18:38
c2tarunshadeslayer: ping18:56
shadeslayerc2tarun: pong18:56
c2tarunshadeslayer: if I want to install previous version of network manager of natty do I have to get all the debs from this page? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/242808818:56
c2tarunshadeslayer: is there any way I can you apt-get?18:57
shadeslayeryou can force a version with apt18:57
shadeslayersee the man page of apt18:57
shadeslayeror google :)18:57
c2tarunshadeslayer: I am getting this error "E: Version '0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2' for 'network-manager' was not found19:00
c2tarunam I supplying the correct version?19:00
shadeslayeri have 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu219:01
shadeslayerlooks about right19:01
shadeslayeroh .. i have a older network manager19:01
shadeslayermaybe i should stay off upgrading then :P19:01
c2tarunwhat is your version?19:01
shadeslayerc2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu219:01
c2tarunshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/12706/ should I remove ~git.20110319t175609.d14809b from the version number?19:03
shadeslayerone sec19:06
shadeslayerc2tarun: interesting19:09
shadeslayeri'm stuck with the new n-m too19:09
c2tarunshadeslayer: n-m?19:09
shadeslayernetwork manager19:09
c2tarunshadeslayer: well If you are stuck then how are you chatting :| your system should freeze I guess.19:10
c2tarunor do you have 2 systems19:10
shadeslayerwell.. i haven't restarted yet19:10
shadeslayerc2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 was working for you?19:11
c2tarunshadeslayer: I guess so, because I installed many applications like qtcreator, eclipse and many more around 4am.19:11
c2tarunwhen I woke up at 9 I dont exactly remember I updated or not.19:11
c2tarunis there any update log or something?19:12
shadeslayerc2tarun: apt-get changelog network-manager19:12
c2tarunshadeslayer: I mean is there any log that can tell me whether I updated my system or not :/19:13
shadeslayerc2tarun: /var/log/apt/history.log19:14
c2tarunshadeslayer: well I slept at line 48 and after that I cant see anything that is updating my network manager. :/19:16
shadeslayerc2tarun: line 3619:16
c2tarunshadeslayer: oh... crap :/19:17
c2tarunshadeslayer: according to log, this version number 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 should solve my problem19:19
c2tarunand apt-get is not able to get that version number, great :)19:19
c2tarunany suggestions?19:20
shadeslayeryeah one sec19:25
shadeslayerc2tarun: amd64?19:25
c2tarunshadeslayer: nope intel core i3 64-bit19:26
shadeslayerc2tarun: and do you have network-manager installed right now?19:26
shadeslayerc2tarun: same thing19:26
c2tarunshadeslayer: yes I am using wicd19:26
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.19:28
c2tarunI think ubottu needs update19:28
ScottKshadeslayer: That's a full distro downgrade.  In most cases downgrading packages should work.19:29
shadeslayeryeah i'm reading the wiki page19:29
ScottKc2tarun: No, that's accurate for what it's talking about19:29
c2tarunScottK: got it, but why is apt-get not able to find the version, even when I copied it from LP page?19:29
ScottKBecause apt-get doesn't install local packages from .debs.  Usd dpkg like I said yesterday.19:30
shadeslayerScottK: no but it should download the older package no?19:30
shadeslayeri've done it before.. can't remember19:31
c2tarunScottK: but man-page of apt-get says that we can install any version if stated properly19:31
shadeslayerc2tarun: showpkg says the older version is no more19:32
c2tarunshadeslayer: well it should be somewhere, in some ppa or anything.19:33
shadeslayerc2tarun: you need to manually download the debs from launchpadlibrarian19:33
c2taruncrap ....19:33
shadeslayernow i'm scared to reboot my pc19:33
* c2tarun downloading19:33
c2tarunshadeslayer: dont19:33
shadeslayerwell .. lets see19:34
c2tarunshadeslayer: wait let me try it first19:34
shadeslayeri'll just finish off some work and then reboot19:34
* c2tarun rebooting, I'll be right back19:39
c2tarunhell, what is wrong with my natty :( I am again getting that black screen.+ when I am trying to start in recovery mode my system is freezing on checking battery status :(19:52
c2tarunwhat is wrong?19:52
c2tarunshadeslayer: ping19:52
c2tarunI am on maverick right now.19:52
shadeslayerc2tarun: a bit busy right now, will talk in 40 minutes after getting my code reviewed :)19:53
c2tarunshadeslayer: sure :)19:53
c2tarunshadeslayer: please ping me when you come back.19:54
afiestasRiddell: apachelogger and other people going to UDS ping20:42
afiestasapachelogger: I'm going to send the booking email to the agency, question: Are you going to stay more to visit the city?20:43
apacheloggernot sure yet, if anything I'd arrive earlier20:44
apacheloggerit looks like I will be leaving on wednesday20:44
afiestasoh, too bad :/20:44
* c2tarun reinstalled beta2 and vowed not to upgrade without asking :/20:46
shadeslayerafiestas: oi20:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: poke20:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: i wrote pyth0rn code20:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmR6ozpksGY20:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/12734/20:50
afiestasis possible to update the bluedevil package to 1.1 final?20:50
afiestasit contains a few huge fixes on "Sharing files"20:51
afiestasthat would be like to have in the final iso20:51
shadeslayerafiestas: bugfixes?20:51
shadeslayerany new features?20:51
afiestasshadeslayer: nope20:52
afiestasthe current package is kinda a "BlueDevil beta", so no20:53
afiestasno new features have been add20:53
shadeslayerokay, i'm not entirely sure if it would go in, but having no new features is considered a huge plus20:53
afiestasshadeslayer: where can I push for it a little bit?20:54
shadeslayerafiestas: file a FFe :)20:54
shadeslayerFeature Freeze Exception 20:55
* afiestas has to learn (K)Ubuntu procedements :/20:55
yofelerm, you only need a ffe for new features?20:55
afiestasthe current package is a git snapshot, update to latest git would be possible?20:55
shadeslayeryofel: aren't new uploads to the archive now locked?20:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: nice20:56
yofelthey are, but I'm not sure you need a FFE for that, asking someone from the release team would be a good idea20:56
shadeslayerbest idea ^20:57
afiestassorry to be late as always guys, I had a terribly busy week at work :/20:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: still doesn't work properly 20:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: Says [Paused] when the song is playing and vice versa20:57
yofelhm... I wanted to mess around with dbus too over the weekend, something for tomorrow :)20:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah well20:59
apacheloggerdbus in pyth0rn is a gigantic pain in the arse20:59
apparleI want to upgrade to natty from 10.10. Is there any command line method to do it, maybe a script like kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade?21:08
apparleapachelogger: that's it, any other changes to repos or anything?21:10
ScottKapparle: It will take care of that for you.21:11
ScottKYou'll need -d to upgrade to the development release.21:11
ScottKsudo do-release-upgrade -d21:11
apparlehow long does it take for Calculating changes. It is stuck. Is there anyway I can make the upgrade download everything needed and then perform actual upgrade later21:22
rbelemScottK, GrueMaster, Riddell, i just made a small script in python to create the "/etc/default/nodm"21:35
shadeslayeryofel: around?21:41
GrueMasterrbelem: Looks good.  Are you going to run this as an oem-config postinst hook?21:44
yofelshadeslayer: yes?21:48
shadeslayeryofel: nvm .. sorted :P21:48
apacheloggerrbelem: and that could not have been done in sh? :S21:50
rbelemGrueMaster, yup :-)21:54
rbelemScottK, do we really need plasma-desktop.desktop to be installed in /usr/share/autostart?21:56
ScottKIs something pulling plasma-desktop into mobile?21:57
shadeslayerget this21:57
shadeslayeri'm seeing lag on DBus21:57
shadeslayer( using pyth0rn ofcourse )21:57
ScottKThere's some magic in the kdm postinst to figure out which one to install.  Maybe it needs extending.21:57
rbelemScottK, if plasma-desktop is installed it will run even if KDEDIRS is set correctly21:59
ScottKLook at what's in the kdm postinst and see if you can extend it.21:59
rbelemScottK, and we need to move plasma-desktop.desktop somewhere else22:00
rbelemplasma-desktop: /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop22:01
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rbelemapachelogger, hum... how to do that in sh? :-) i'm much familiar with sh :'(22:26
* yofel never used configobj - what does config['NODM_ENABLED'] = 'true' do? set a default value?22:29
rbelemyofel, it sets to the key 'NODM_ENABLED' the string value true :-)22:37
rbelemyofel, it is much better than ConfigParser22:37
yofelah wait, I misunderstood the code... you're *creating* the config file there...22:38
rbelemyofel, yup22:40
bambeea dbus/polkit guru around ?22:44
yofelwth, I can't enable desktop effects on my eeePC (intel 945GME) in natty o.O23:09
rbelemScottK, is there bzr repos for kubuntu-mobile-default-settings?23:26
rbelemjust found23:26
yofelScottK: do you know if we're going to get the patch from kde bug 270942 in for natty?23:38
ubottuKDE bug 270942 in compositing "Direct Rendering is wrongfully disabled on Intel graphics since mesa 7 10 1" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27094223:38
ScottKyofel: Let's ask.  Meet me in #ubuntu-x23:40
ScottKNow we wait and see.23:41
* nixternal does a little dance - intel + desktop effects worked out of the box with new natty install :)23:50
yofellucky you, here I was wondering why kwin simply refused to enable them until I noticed that glxinfo says direct rendering: yes and kwin said no, then went digging through bugzilla23:51
nixternalthough I think opengl might be the reason for slowness on some things, so i need to switch over to xrender to see if that is faster. i have wgt golf game in chrome, and it is slow as hell in natty where it was perfect in maverick. difference i can see is natty is using opengl whereas I was using xrender in mav23:53
nixternali want to give a couple of days first to make sure it isn't wgt golf acting up23:53
* yofel waits for his mesa build to finish in the meanwhile...23:54

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