[03:16] <danubio_> helppp 
[03:16] <danubio_> need install a sh file
[03:16] <danubio_> I put ./configure
[03:17] <danubio_> now have install-sh file
[03:17] <danubio_> need install it
[03:18] <yofel> danubio_: support is in #kubuntu
[03:19] <danubio_> where?
[03:19] <danubio_> channel?
[04:49] <c2tarun> I am facing a very serious problem with natty. anyone here.
[04:49] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[04:51] <c2tarun> Previous releases like lucid and maverick never detected my wifi driver. Natty detected, but when it starts it tries to connect to the wifi connection available and then I get a black screen with many things written on it.( Can't understand them ) and then screen freezes :/
[04:53] <c2tarun> Now I switched of my wifi and using the same connection with wire and installing the broadcom driver. Lets see if this works or not.  I am facing this problem with Beta1 as well as Beta2 64-bit
[05:11] <c2tarun> ping
[05:18] <valorie> c2tarun: riddell is gone until Monday night
[05:18] <valorie> you will get better luck with #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <c2tarun> valorie: ohh.... :(
[05:19] <c2tarun> #ubuntu+1 means? is this a channel?
[05:20] <valorie> yes
[05:20] <valorie> just for natty
[05:20] <valorie> well, just for "whatever is in testing"
[05:20] <c2tarun> valorie: ok, I'll ask there
[05:22] <valorie> they've been good to me in the past
[05:31] <c2tarun> how can I change my default network manager
[05:31] <c2tarun> ?
[05:31] <valorie> like, use wicd?
[05:32] <c2tarun> valorie: yup
[05:32] <c2tarun> how can I shut down my kde network manager for a while?
[05:32] <valorie> I have used it in the past, however, had to uninstall it to get knetworkmanager working right in Mav.
[05:33] <valorie> the thing is, to get wicD working, you might have to do that same with knetwork
[05:33] <valorie> bit of a connundrum
[05:33] <valorie> I'm not sure how you would do that
[05:34] <valorie> wicd "just worked" in lucid
[05:34] <valorie> and in Mav, just didn't
[05:34] <valorie> even with a wire
[05:35] <c2tarun> valorie: still I have to give it a try because my network manager is simply freezing my system :/
[05:35] <valorie> that's awful
[05:39] <c2tarun> strange thing is, my network manager was working fine at night :/ it isn't working since morning
[05:40] <valorie> that sounds like my freaking sound!
[05:40] <valorie> I got my sound going again
[05:40] <valorie> so, have you tried your network manager from a new user?
[05:40] <c2tarun> valorie: nope not yet.
[05:40] <valorie> that was how I got my sound going again
[05:41] <valorie> :-)
[05:41] <ScottK> There was a new network-manager upload yesterday.  I'd try downgrading and see if it gets better.
[05:41] <c2tarun> ScottK: how can I downgrade?
[05:42] <ScottK> Download the old .deb from Launchpad, copy it onto your system and then install it.
[05:42] <ScottK> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:42] <c2tarun> ScottK: will it replace the new version?
[05:42] <ScottK> Yes.
[05:42] <c2tarun> ok
[05:45] <c2tarun> ScottK: how can I check my current version?
[05:45] <ScottK> You have wired network on the machine, right?
[05:45] <c2tarun> ScottK: yup
[05:46] <ScottK> Simplest way is just to upgrade.  If it doesn't offer you a newer on, then you've got the latest.
[05:46] <c2tarun> ScottK: I already tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:46] <c2tarun> its getting me nothing
[05:46] <ScottK> Then you've got the newest.
[05:47] <ScottK> You probably got a new one yesterday or earlier today
[05:47] <c2tarun> ScottK: one more strange thing, I upgraded my system in night, but I got beta1 installed in other partition and I havent upgraded it in last few days, suddenly it also started facing this problem.
[05:48] <ScottK> That is a bit odd.
[05:48] <ScottK> That makes it sound more like hardware.
[05:48] <c2tarun> :(
[05:48] <ScottK> How else would two separate installs be affected?
[05:49] <c2tarun> yup.
[05:50] <c2tarun> ScottK: anyway, I can get the older versio from this link? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/network-manager
[05:51] <ScottK> Yes
[05:51] <c2tarun> ScottK: on running aptitude show networkmanager | grep Version I am getting "Unable to locate package networkmanager"
[05:52] <ScottK> network-manager is the source package name.  You have to look and find the binary package names.
[05:52] <ScottK> Good luck.
[05:52] <ScottK> I need to get to sleep.
[05:52] <valorie> sweet dreams, ScottK
[05:52] <ScottK> Thanks.
[07:08] <c2tarun> valorie: ping
[07:09] <c2tarun> any one using wifi connection with kubuntu 11.04 beta2 64-bit?
[07:10] <valorie> hi
[07:10] <valorie> I'm still on mav
[07:14] <c2tarun> valorie: I just installed mav on a separate partition and wifi is working fine here :/ (no hardware problem) I installed wicd on natty and it also freezed while connecting with wifi :/
[07:14]  * c2tarun rebooting and going to natty
[07:16] <valorie> that does not sound good at all
[07:23] <c2tarun> valorie: great :/ now I am not even able to start natty. after the blue splash screen I am getting the blank screen :/
[07:26] <valorie> yikes
[07:26] <valorie> I hope you are filing bugs for this stuff
[07:27] <c2tarun> nope, I was still struggling with these stuffs :/
[07:28] <c2tarun> valorie: I have to write a full story for everything :/
[07:37] <Mamarok> I have no working WiFi on Natty
[07:38] <Mamarok> nothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick
[07:38] <valorie> heh, that's just what c2tarun is reporting
[07:38] <valorie> he said the same thing
[07:38] <Mamarok> it shows one "Hidden network" wile it should show at least 6 unhidden ones
[07:38] <Mamarok> while*
[07:39] <Mamarok> I guess the scanner doesn't work
[07:39] <valorie> maybe the radio doesn't get turned on
[07:39] <valorie> ?
[07:40] <Mamarok> well, it can show a hidden network
[07:40] <Mamarok> but I will try by hand
[07:40] <valorie> he tried wicd, and that didn't work either
[07:48] <Mamarok> then it is most likely a missing driver, but I had that installed previously, maybe they changed soething in the kernel
[07:48] <Mamarok> something*
[07:50] <Mamarok> another possibility is that they already switched to iw instead of iwconfig...
[08:22] <Obituary37> hi
[08:34] <Mamarok> valorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/722185
[08:35] <Mamarok> there already is a fix that was sent upstream
[08:35] <valorie> oh cool
[08:35] <valorie> if c2tarun ever makes it back, I'll tell him
[08:36] <valorie> I downloaded beta 2 today, but I don't think I'll be trying it for awhile
[09:25] <bambee> morning
[09:54] <c2tarun> anyone using wifi connection with kubuntu natty beta2 64 bit
[10:14] <valorie> c2tarun: let me paste you something
[10:14] <valorie> [00:34] <Mamarok> valorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/722185
[10:14] <valorie> [10:14] <valorie> [00:35] <Mamarok> there already is a fix that was sent upstream
[10:15] <valorie> myriam had the same bug as you
[10:16] <c2tarun> valorie: not exactly
[10:17] <c2tarun> myriam's kernel is not detecting any wifi. mine is detecting but freezing on connecting.
[10:17] <valorie> [23:37] <Mamarok> I have no working WiFi on Natty
[10:17] <valorie> [23:38] <Mamarok> nothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick
[10:17] <valorie> ah, ok
[10:17] <valorie> you have partly the same, and partly different then
[10:18] <valorie> but both sucking
[10:18] <c2tarun> valorie: should I reinstall natty?
[10:19] <valorie> she said it isn't fixed yet
[10:19] <valorie> I think you should wait until you hear in channel that it is fixed
[10:20] <valorie> that's what I would do, anyway.....
[10:20] <c2tarun> valorie: sure :/
[10:21] <c2tarun> valorie: do you know how I can make a partition mount automatically?
[10:25] <valorie> hmm, no I don't
[10:25] <valorie> but I bet some people in #kubuntu know
[10:25] <valorie> or google land.....
[10:25] <c2tarun> thanks :)
[10:28] <valorie> oh, have you run grub-update?
[10:28] <valorie> you should be able to choose, right?
[10:30] <c2tarun> valorie: well grub detected natty but on opening it I am getting blank screen after splash screen.
[10:31] <valorie> right, but you want mav instead then, right?
[10:44] <c2tarun> valorie: actually I installed mav on separate partition and natty on separate, according to me both should work. when choosing mav from the menu its working but when choosing natty I am getting blank screen
[10:48] <valorie> yeah, natty sounds totally borked
[10:48] <valorie> are you doing beta2, or from dailies?
[10:53] <c2tarun> valorie: beta2
[10:54] <valorie> so rebuilding it won't change anything
[10:54] <valorie> unless maybe logging in as a new user?
[10:56] <c2tarun> valorie: I am not getting the screen on which I have to enter username and psswd :(
[10:57] <valorie> have you tried holding down escape during boot, so you can get into tty?
[10:58] <valorie> I guess you would have to log in as yourslef, adduser, log out
[10:58] <valorie> pita
[10:58] <valorie> but still worth a try, right?
[10:58]  * c2tarun going trying :)
[11:50] <shadeslayer> \o
[11:50] <shadeslayer> Anyone taking up PIM?
[11:51] <shadeslayer> okay, i'll take it up then
[12:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Ubuntu should switch to using MediaWiki :P
[12:37] <yofel> I doin't care what, just anything other than moinmoin
[12:37] <yofel> *don't
[12:42] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:43] <shadeslayer> hmm .. should i upload KDE PIM to ninjas first and then to experimental or directly to experimental
[12:45] <yofel> put it in ninjas and at least make sure it installs right first I would say
[12:47] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ping
[12:47] <shadeslayer> pong
[12:47] <c2tarun> are you using a wifi connection?
[12:47] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ^
[12:48] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:48] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: natty 64bit?
[12:48] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:48] <yofel> c2tarun: what kind of card, and what's the syslog output when connecting?
[12:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it seems ... i've lost the email you sent me with the keys signed
[12:49] <c2tarun> yofel: dont know :( I am not on natty, even I am not able to start natty. 
[12:49] <yofel> o.O
[12:49] <c2tarun> whenever natty is trying to connect to wifi connection system freezes :/
[12:49] <c2tarun> then I installed mav
[12:49] <shadeslayer> oh my
[12:50] <c2tarun> and now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialod
[12:50] <c2tarun> and now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialog
[12:51] <c2tarun> maverick and natty are on separate partitions
[12:52] <c2tarun> shadeslayer, yofel: ^^ can you guys tell what is happening?
[12:52] <yofel> if you hold the notebook against the light and still see something on the screen then the backlight is only turned off - file a bug against the kernel I think and try an older one
[12:52] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: what do you get?
[12:53] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: oh .. the screen brightness is 0 ?
[12:53] <c2tarun> yofel: if we run only sudo shutdown 0 and no -h we get same type of black screen.
[12:53] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ^^
[12:53] <yofel> no idea thne
[12:53] <yofel> *then
[12:54] <c2tarun> :/
[12:54] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: do you get a TTY or something?
[12:54] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: not since morning but yesterday I got it few times. My network-manager started troubling me since morning
[12:55] <shadeslayer> what was the last thing you did before the problem occured?
[12:55] <shadeslayer> upgrades etc 
[12:55] <c2tarun> I was told that latest version of network-manager is added yesterday and that might creating problem. But I got beta1 on separate partition and it also started giving same problem.
[12:56] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: then I removed network-manager and installed wicd and then again the same problem.
[12:56] <c2tarun> wicd also freezing while connecting to wifi network.
[13:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lolz : gpg: BAD signature from "Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com>"
[13:02] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: what card?
[13:10] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: : sorry I got disconnected.
[13:10] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: what card?
[13:11] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: Broadcom
[13:11] <shadeslayer> bleh
[13:11] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: sorry :/
[13:11] <c2tarun> what do you mean?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: broadcom cards are sucky
[13:11] <shadeslayer> drivers are not very good atm
[13:12] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: they are embeded in my laptop, I cant get them changed :( any solution?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> only workaround is the STA Driver i believe
[13:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: yup
[13:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: actually in lucid and mav I have to install broadcom sta drivers, but natty first detected my wifi automatically.
[13:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: but now its creating problem
[13:14] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: so you can't even get into a tty in natty?
[13:14] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: yup
[13:14] <shadeslayer> it is so flipping hot here
[13:14] <shadeslayer> kubotu: weather Gurgaon, India
[13:15]  * shadeslayer kicks kubotu
[13:15] <c2tarun> :) kubotu can't change the weather. and its unlickly to change before next 3-4 months 
[13:16] <shadeslayer> bah ... weather module is blacklisted
[13:16] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I think I am facing this bug 734008
[13:18] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: no idea, i've never had to deal with such stuff
[13:18] <shadeslayer> <3 Intel
[13:19] <c2tarun> :( guess I have to stick to maverick till then
[13:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: i'm pondering on adding dblatex to kdepim
[13:35] <shadeslayer> refer : http://paste.kde.org/12622
[13:38] <yofel> I don't see a problem with that, it's in main after all
[13:39] <shadeslayer> yeah, that's why i needed another opinion :)
[13:39] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw unpacking stuff on your thinkpad is lightning fast ... does it have a SSD or something?
[13:40] <yofel> my server? no
[13:40] <yofel> blame the disk cache I would say
[13:40] <shadeslayer> yeah .. then how does it take so little time to unpack stuff
[13:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: no .. *unpacking* archives
[13:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: tmpfs   /tmp    tmpfs   rw,size=8G  0   0 << that's the reason i think
[13:42] <shadeslayer> or rather : tmpfs   /var/cache/pbuilder/build    tmpfs   rw,size=7G  0   0
[13:43] <yofel> ah yeah, *that* would be a reason ^^
[13:43] <shadeslayer> any improvements on mounting /tmp into the RAM?
[13:44] <shadeslayer> and is that line all i need to mount my /tmp into my pc's RAM?
[13:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: how about .. in neonmake, mount the build dir to tmpfs to speed stuff up?
[13:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: see my fstab for the line, but I mount /tmp as tmpfs out of habit usually, except on my SSD, there it's to prevent nonsense writes to the card
[13:59] <shadeslayer> ohk
[14:00] <shadeslayer> yofel: any ideas how to manually mount each and every build dir ( before it starts building ) ?
[14:00] <yofel> and neonmake.... a) you need sudo for mount b) I can't think of a reliable way to make sure there is enough space there. As some users actually don't use swap
[14:00] <shadeslayer> really? can't i just mount a certain folder on my drive to the RAM without sudo?
[14:01] <yofel> mount tells me it needs sudo, you can mount stuff as a user if there's a fstab line with the user option in it
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ah .. hmm 
[14:02] <yofel> well, manual mount would be:
[14:02] <yofel> sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs tmp/
[14:02] <yofel> or sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs -o size=8G tmp/
[14:04] <yofel> so, while tmpfs makes sense for pbuilder as it needs to install a ton of stuff, the disk I/O for usual builds isn't that high, so I don't see the sense in doing that
[14:07] <shadeslayer> oh .. 
[14:08] <jussi> shadeslayer: study! ;P
[14:08] <shadeslayer> why?
[14:08] <shadeslayer> exams are over :P
[14:08] <bambee> Are there cmake macros to install .conf and .policy files for dbus ?
[14:08] <bambee> (I should probably ask on #kde-devel...)
[16:15] <c2tarun> bambee: hi :)
[16:15] <bambee> hi
[16:15] <c2tarun> there is still no work around?
[16:16] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: well.. i just finished PIM ... so that's out of the question :P
[16:16] <shadeslayer> fix bugs
[16:16] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:16] <c2tarun> shadeslayer:  :) yeah you are always very fast.
[16:17] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: no.. PIM was released to kde packager more than a week back
[16:17] <shadeslayer> i just got around to doing it
[16:17] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well I am not on kde packagers list :/ so I didn't got the mail
[16:17] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: file a sysadmin bug report and tell them you package stuff for kubuntu
[16:18] <shadeslayer> bug report would go in bugs.kde.org
[16:18] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I did that. Riddell commented that he want that list reserved for kubuntu-members.
[16:18] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:18] <shadeslayer> didn't know that
[16:18] <c2tarun> :/
[16:19] <shadeslayer> *sigh* ... docbook stuff
[16:32] <c2tarun> If I add any repository by sudo add-apt-repository. why cant I see it in sources.list?
[16:37] <c2tarun> on this https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages page there are many packages with newer versions available written in from of their name. what does it mean?
[16:43] <jussi> does anyone know if the natty usb creator got fixed? 
[16:44] <c2tarun> jussi: if you mean startup disk creator than I used it in morning.
[16:44] <c2tarun> it was working then
[16:45] <jussi> ok :)
[16:53] <shadeslayer> markey: poke
[16:54] <shadeslayer> markey: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=73999 >> still not fixed :(
[18:08] <ryanakca> Any ideas on what I should do with the kobby/libqinfinity packages? Upstream hasn't commited anything in over a year, my bug-fixes merge request has been untouched for a year this Monday, Kobby and libqinfinity are broken in Debian because libqinfinity-0.4 was replaced with libqinfinity-0.5. Prod upstream and if unsuccessful, get rid of them?
[18:09] <ScottK> That or become upstream.
[18:10] <ryanakca> ScottK: Alright, thanks
[18:38]  * shadeslayer has a headache from all the pyth0rn he just learn
[18:38] <shadeslayer> *learnt
[18:56] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ping
[18:56] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: pong
[18:56] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: if I want to install previous version of network manager of natty do I have to get all the debs from this page? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/2428088
[18:57] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: is there any way I can you apt-get?
[18:57] <shadeslayer> you can force a version with apt
[18:57] <shadeslayer> see the man page of apt
[18:57] <shadeslayer> or google :)
[18:57] <c2tarun> ok
[19:00] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I am getting this error "E: Version '0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2' for 'network-manager' was not found
[19:00] <c2tarun> "
[19:00] <c2tarun> am I supplying the correct version?
[19:01] <shadeslayer> i have 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2
[19:01] <shadeslayer> looks about right
[19:01] <shadeslayer> oh .. i have a older network manager
[19:01] <shadeslayer> maybe i should stay off upgrading then :P
[19:01] <c2tarun> what is your version?
[19:01] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2
[19:03] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/12706/ should I remove ~git.20110319t175609.d14809b from the version number?
[19:06] <shadeslayer> one sec
[19:08] <c2tarun> sure
[19:09] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: interesting
[19:09] <shadeslayer> i'm stuck with the new n-m too
[19:09] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: n-m?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> network manager
[19:10] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well If you are stuck then how are you chatting :| your system should freeze I guess.
[19:10] <c2tarun> or do you have 2 systems
[19:10] <shadeslayer> well.. i haven't restarted yet
[19:11] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 was working for you?
[19:11] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I guess so, because I installed many applications like qtcreator, eclipse and many more around 4am.
[19:11] <c2tarun> when I woke up at 9 I dont exactly remember I updated or not.
[19:12] <c2tarun> is there any update log or something?
[19:12] <shadeslayer> yes
[19:12] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: apt-get changelog network-manager
[19:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I mean is there any log that can tell me whether I updated my system or not :/
[19:13] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:14] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:15] <c2tarun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594923/
[19:16] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well I slept at line 48 and after that I cant see anything that is updating my network manager. :/
[19:16] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: line 36
[19:17] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: oh... crap :/
[19:19] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: according to log, this version number 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 should solve my problem
[19:19] <c2tarun> and apt-get is not able to get that version number, great :)
[19:20] <c2tarun> any suggestions?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> yeah one sec
[19:25] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: amd64?
[19:26] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: nope intel core i3 64-bit
[19:26] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: and do you have network-manager installed right now?
[19:26] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: same thing
[19:26] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: yes I am using wicd
[19:26] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:28] <shadeslayer> !downgrade
[19:28] <c2tarun> hmm.
[19:28] <c2tarun> I think ubottu needs update
[19:28] <c2tarun> :)
[19:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That's a full distro downgrade.  In most cases downgrading packages should work.
[19:29] <shadeslayer> yeah i'm reading the wiki page
[19:29] <shadeslayer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[19:29] <ScottK> c2tarun: No, that's accurate for what it's talking about
[19:29] <c2tarun> ScottK: got it, but why is apt-get not able to find the version, even when I copied it from LP page?
[19:30] <ScottK> Because apt-get doesn't install local packages from .debs.  Usd dpkg like I said yesterday.
[19:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: no but it should download the older package no?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> i've done it before.. can't remember
[19:31] <c2tarun> ScottK: but man-page of apt-get says that we can install any version if stated properly
[19:31] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:32] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: showpkg says the older version is no more
[19:33] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well it should be somewhere, in some ppa or anything.
[19:33] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: you need to manually download the debs from launchpadlibrarian
[19:33] <c2tarun> crap ....
[19:33] <shadeslayer> now i'm scared to reboot my pc
[19:33]  * c2tarun downloading
[19:33] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: dont
[19:34] <shadeslayer> well .. lets see
[19:34] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: wait let me try it first
[19:34] <shadeslayer> i'll just finish off some work and then reboot
[19:35] <c2tarun> sure
[19:39]  * c2tarun rebooting, I'll be right back
[19:52] <c2tarun> hell, what is wrong with my natty :( I am again getting that black screen.+ when I am trying to start in recovery mode my system is freezing on checking battery status :(
[19:52] <c2tarun> what is wrong?
[19:52] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ping
[19:52] <c2tarun> I am on maverick right now.
[19:53] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: a bit busy right now, will talk in 40 minutes after getting my code reviewed :)
[19:53] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: sure :)
[19:54] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: please ping me when you come back.
[19:54] <shadeslayer> sure
[20:42] <afiestas> Riddell: apachelogger and other people going to UDS ping
[20:42] <apachelogger> pogo
[20:43] <afiestas> apachelogger: I'm going to send the booking email to the agency, question: Are you going to stay more to visit the city?
[20:44] <apachelogger> not sure yet, if anything I'd arrive earlier
[20:44] <apachelogger> it looks like I will be leaving on wednesday
[20:44] <afiestas> oh, too bad :/
[20:46]  * c2tarun reinstalled beta2 and vowed not to upgrade without asking :/
[20:49] <shadeslayer> afiestas: oi
[20:49] <shadeslayer> erm
[20:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke
[20:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i wrote pyth0rn code
[20:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmR6ozpksGY
[20:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/12734/
[20:50] <afiestas> is possible to update the bluedevil package to 1.1 final?
[20:51] <afiestas> it contains a few huge fixes on "Sharing files"
[20:51] <afiestas> that would be like to have in the final iso
[20:51] <shadeslayer> afiestas: bugfixes?
[20:51] <shadeslayer> any new features?
[20:52] <afiestas> shadeslayer: nope
[20:53] <afiestas> the current package is kinda a "BlueDevil beta", so no
[20:53] <afiestas> no new features have been add
[20:53] <shadeslayer> okay, i'm not entirely sure if it would go in, but having no new features is considered a huge plus
[20:54] <afiestas> shadeslayer: where can I push for it a little bit?
[20:54] <shadeslayer> afiestas: file a FFe :)
[20:55] <afiestas> FFe?
[20:55] <shadeslayer> Feature Freeze Exception 
[20:55]  * afiestas has to learn (K)Ubuntu procedements :/
[20:55] <yofel> erm, you only need a ffe for new features?
[20:55] <afiestas> the current package is a git snapshot, update to latest git would be possible?
[20:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: aren't new uploads to the archive now locked?
[20:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nice
[20:56] <yofel> they are, but I'm not sure you need a FFE for that, asking someone from the release team would be a good idea
[20:57] <shadeslayer> best idea ^
[20:57] <afiestas> sorry to be late as always guys, I had a terribly busy week at work :/
[20:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: still doesn't work properly 
[20:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Says [Paused] when the song is playing and vice versa
[20:58] <yofel> hm... I wanted to mess around with dbus too over the weekend, something for tomorrow :)
[20:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah well
[20:59] <apachelogger> dbus in pyth0rn is a gigantic pain in the arse
[21:08] <apparle> I want to upgrade to natty from 10.10. Is there any command line method to do it, maybe a script like kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade?
[21:08] <apachelogger> do-release-upgrade
[21:10] <apparle> apachelogger: that's it, any other changes to repos or anything?
[21:11] <ScottK> apparle: It will take care of that for you.
[21:11] <ScottK> You'll need -d to upgrade to the development release.
[21:11] <ScottK> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[21:22] <apparle> how long does it take for Calculating changes. It is stuck. Is there anyway I can make the upgrade download everything needed and then perform actual upgrade later
[21:35] <rbelem> ScottK, GrueMaster, Riddell, i just made a small script in python to create the "/etc/default/nodm"
[21:35] <rbelem> http://paste.kde.org/12743/
[21:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: around?
[21:44] <GrueMaster> rbelem: Looks good.  Are you going to run this as an oem-config postinst hook?
[21:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: yes?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: nvm .. sorted :P
[21:48] <yofel> :)
[21:50] <apachelogger> rbelem: and that could not have been done in sh? :S
[21:54] <rbelem> GrueMaster, yup :-)
[21:56] <rbelem> ScottK, do we really need plasma-desktop.desktop to be installed in /usr/share/autostart?
[21:57] <ScottK> Is something pulling plasma-desktop into mobile?
[21:57] <shadeslayer> get this
[21:57] <shadeslayer> i'm seeing lag on DBus
[21:57] <shadeslayer> ( using pyth0rn ofcourse )
[21:57] <ScottK> There's some magic in the kdm postinst to figure out which one to install.  Maybe it needs extending.
[21:59] <rbelem> ScottK, if plasma-desktop is installed it will run even if KDEDIRS is set correctly
[21:59] <ScottK> Look at what's in the kdm postinst and see if you can extend it.
[22:00] <rbelem> ScottK, and we need to move plasma-desktop.desktop somewhere else
[22:01] <rbelem> plasma-desktop: /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop
[22:26] <rbelem> apachelogger, hum... how to do that in sh? :-) i'm much familiar with sh :'(
[22:29]  * yofel never used configobj - what does config['NODM_ENABLED'] = 'true' do? set a default value?
[22:37] <rbelem> yofel, it sets to the key 'NODM_ENABLED' the string value true :-)
[22:37] <rbelem> yofel, it is much better than ConfigParser
[22:38] <yofel> ah wait, I misunderstood the code... you're *creating* the config file there...
[22:40] <rbelem> yofel, yup
[22:44] <bambee> a dbus/polkit guru around ?
[23:09] <yofel> wth, I can't enable desktop effects on my eeePC (intel 945GME) in natty o.O
[23:26] <rbelem> ScottK, is there bzr repos for kubuntu-mobile-default-settings?
[23:26] <rbelem> just found
[23:38] <yofel> ScottK: do you know if we're going to get the patch from kde bug 270942 in for natty?
[23:40] <ScottK> yofel: Let's ask.  Meet me in #ubuntu-x
[23:41] <ScottK> Now we wait and see.
[23:50]  * nixternal does a little dance - intel + desktop effects worked out of the box with new natty install :)
[23:51] <yofel> lucky you, here I was wondering why kwin simply refused to enable them until I noticed that glxinfo says direct rendering: yes and kwin said no, then went digging through bugzilla
[23:53] <nixternal> though I think opengl might be the reason for slowness on some things, so i need to switch over to xrender to see if that is faster. i have wgt golf game in chrome, and it is slow as hell in natty where it was perfect in maverick. difference i can see is natty is using opengl whereas I was using xrender in mav
[23:53] <nixternal> i want to give a couple of days first to make sure it isn't wgt golf acting up
[23:54]  * yofel waits for his mesa build to finish in the meanwhile...