=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [03:16] helppp [03:16] need install a sh file [03:16] I put ./configure [03:17] now have install-sh file [03:17] need install it [03:18] danubio_: support is in #kubuntu [03:19] where? [03:19] channel? [04:49] I am facing a very serious problem with natty. anyone here. [04:49] Riddell: ping [04:51] Previous releases like lucid and maverick never detected my wifi driver. Natty detected, but when it starts it tries to connect to the wifi connection available and then I get a black screen with many things written on it.( Can't understand them ) and then screen freezes :/ [04:53] Now I switched of my wifi and using the same connection with wire and installing the broadcom driver. Lets see if this works or not. I am facing this problem with Beta1 as well as Beta2 64-bit [05:11] ping [05:18] c2tarun: riddell is gone until Monday night [05:18] you will get better luck with #ubuntu+1 [05:19] valorie: ohh.... :( [05:19] #ubuntu+1 means? is this a channel? [05:20] yes [05:20] just for natty [05:20] well, just for "whatever is in testing" [05:20] valorie: ok, I'll ask there [05:22] they've been good to me in the past [05:31] how can I change my default network manager [05:31] ? [05:31] like, use wicd? [05:32] valorie: yup [05:32] how can I shut down my kde network manager for a while? [05:32] I have used it in the past, however, had to uninstall it to get knetworkmanager working right in Mav. [05:33] the thing is, to get wicD working, you might have to do that same with knetwork [05:33] bit of a connundrum [05:33] I'm not sure how you would do that [05:34] wicd "just worked" in lucid [05:34] and in Mav, just didn't [05:34] even with a wire [05:35] valorie: still I have to give it a try because my network manager is simply freezing my system :/ [05:35] that's awful [05:39] strange thing is, my network manager was working fine at night :/ it isn't working since morning [05:40] that sounds like my freaking sound! [05:40] I got my sound going again [05:40] so, have you tried your network manager from a new user? [05:40] valorie: nope not yet. [05:40] that was how I got my sound going again [05:41] :-) [05:41] There was a new network-manager upload yesterday. I'd try downgrading and see if it gets better. [05:41] ScottK: how can I downgrade? [05:42] Download the old .deb from Launchpad, copy it onto your system and then install it. [05:42] sudo dpkg -i filename.deb [05:42] ScottK: will it replace the new version? [05:42] Yes. [05:42] ok [05:45] ScottK: how can I check my current version? [05:45] You have wired network on the machine, right? [05:45] ScottK: yup [05:46] Simplest way is just to upgrade. If it doesn't offer you a newer on, then you've got the latest. [05:46] ScottK: I already tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:46] its getting me nothing [05:46] Then you've got the newest. [05:47] You probably got a new one yesterday or earlier today [05:47] ScottK: one more strange thing, I upgraded my system in night, but I got beta1 installed in other partition and I havent upgraded it in last few days, suddenly it also started facing this problem. [05:48] That is a bit odd. [05:48] That makes it sound more like hardware. [05:48] :( [05:48] How else would two separate installs be affected? [05:49] yup. [05:50] ScottK: anyway, I can get the older versio from this link? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/network-manager [05:51] Yes [05:51] ScottK: on running aptitude show networkmanager | grep Version I am getting "Unable to locate package networkmanager" [05:52] network-manager is the source package name. You have to look and find the binary package names. [05:52] Good luck. [05:52] I need to get to sleep. [05:52] sweet dreams, ScottK [05:52] Thanks. === tarun is now known as Guest77978 === Guest77978 is now known as c2tarun [07:08] valorie: ping [07:09] any one using wifi connection with kubuntu 11.04 beta2 64-bit? [07:10] hi [07:10] I'm still on mav [07:14] valorie: I just installed mav on a separate partition and wifi is working fine here :/ (no hardware problem) I installed wicd on natty and it also freezed while connecting with wifi :/ [07:14] * c2tarun rebooting and going to natty [07:16] that does not sound good at all [07:23] valorie: great :/ now I am not even able to start natty. after the blue splash screen I am getting the blank screen :/ [07:26] yikes [07:26] I hope you are filing bugs for this stuff [07:27] nope, I was still struggling with these stuffs :/ [07:28] valorie: I have to write a full story for everything :/ [07:37] I have no working WiFi on Natty [07:38] nothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick [07:38] heh, that's just what c2tarun is reporting [07:38] he said the same thing [07:38] it shows one "Hidden network" wile it should show at least 6 unhidden ones [07:38] while* [07:39] I guess the scanner doesn't work [07:39] maybe the radio doesn't get turned on [07:39] ? [07:40] well, it can show a hidden network [07:40] but I will try by hand [07:40] he tried wicd, and that didn't work either [07:48] then it is most likely a missing driver, but I had that installed previously, maybe they changed soething in the kernel [07:48] something* [07:50] another possibility is that they already switched to iw instead of iwconfig... [08:22] hi [08:34] valorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/722185 [08:34] Ubuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:35] there already is a fix that was sent upstream [08:35] oh cool [08:35] if c2tarun ever makes it back, I'll tell him [08:36] I downloaded beta 2 today, but I don't think I'll be trying it for awhile [09:25] morning === _human_blip_ is now known as human_blip === tarun is now known as Guest10522 === Guest10522 is now known as c2tarun [09:54] anyone using wifi connection with kubuntu natty beta2 64 bit [10:14] c2tarun: let me paste you something [10:14] [00:34] valorie: it's a kernel bug upstream, so I hope this will be backported to Natty soon enough, else we have a big regression: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/722185 [10:14] Ubuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:14] [00:34] Ubuntu bug 722185 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: Does not list available WLAN networks (p54)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:14] [00:35] there already is a fix that was sent upstream [10:15] myriam had the same bug as you [10:16] valorie: not exactly [10:17] myriam's kernel is not detecting any wifi. mine is detecting but freezing on connecting. [10:17] [23:37] I have no working WiFi on Natty [10:17] [23:38] nothing detected, although it works fine with Maverick [10:17] ah, ok [10:17] you have partly the same, and partly different then [10:18] but both sucking [10:18] valorie: should I reinstall natty? [10:19] she said it isn't fixed yet [10:19] I think you should wait until you hear in channel that it is fixed [10:20] that's what I would do, anyway..... [10:20] valorie: sure :/ [10:21] valorie: do you know how I can make a partition mount automatically? [10:25] hmm, no I don't [10:25] but I bet some people in #kubuntu know [10:25] or google land..... [10:25] thanks :) [10:28] oh, have you run grub-update? [10:28] you should be able to choose, right? [10:30] valorie: well grub detected natty but on opening it I am getting blank screen after splash screen. [10:31] right, but you want mav instead then, right? [10:44] valorie: actually I installed mav on separate partition and natty on separate, according to me both should work. when choosing mav from the menu its working but when choosing natty I am getting blank screen [10:48] yeah, natty sounds totally borked [10:48] are you doing beta2, or from dailies? [10:53] valorie: beta2 [10:54] so rebuilding it won't change anything [10:54] unless maybe logging in as a new user? [10:56] valorie: I am not getting the screen on which I have to enter username and psswd :( [10:57] have you tried holding down escape during boot, so you can get into tty? [10:58] I guess you would have to log in as yourslef, adduser, log out [10:58] pita [10:58] but still worth a try, right? [10:58] * c2tarun going trying :) [11:50] \o [11:50] Anyone taking up PIM? [11:51] okay, i'll take it up then [12:23] Riddell: Ubuntu should switch to using MediaWiki :P [12:37] I doin't care what, just anything other than moinmoin [12:37] *don't [12:42] yeah [12:43] hmm .. should i upload KDE PIM to ninjas first and then to experimental or directly to experimental [12:45] put it in ninjas and at least make sure it installs right first I would say [12:47] shadeslayer: ping [12:47] pong [12:47] are you using a wifi connection? [12:47] shadeslayer: ^ [12:48] yes [12:48] shadeslayer: natty 64bit? [12:48] yes [12:48] c2tarun: what kind of card, and what's the syslog output when connecting? [12:49] apachelogger: it seems ... i've lost the email you sent me with the keys signed [12:49] yofel: dont know :( I am not on natty, even I am not able to start natty. [12:49] o.O [12:49] whenever natty is trying to connect to wifi connection system freezes :/ [12:49] then I installed mav [12:49] oh my [12:50] and now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialod [12:50] and now when I am starting natty after blue splash screen I am getting black screen and no password required dialog [12:51] maverick and natty are on separate partitions [12:52] shadeslayer, yofel: ^^ can you guys tell what is happening? [12:52] if you hold the notebook against the light and still see something on the screen then the backlight is only turned off - file a bug against the kernel I think and try an older one [12:52] c2tarun: what do you get? [12:53] c2tarun: oh .. the screen brightness is 0 ? [12:53] yofel: if we run only sudo shutdown 0 and no -h we get same type of black screen. [12:53] shadeslayer: ^^ [12:53] no idea thne [12:53] *then [12:54] :/ [12:54] c2tarun: do you get a TTY or something? [12:54] shadeslayer: not since morning but yesterday I got it few times. My network-manager started troubling me since morning [12:55] what was the last thing you did before the problem occured? [12:55] upgrades etc [12:55] I was told that latest version of network-manager is added yesterday and that might creating problem. But I got beta1 on separate partition and it also started giving same problem. [12:56] shadeslayer: then I removed network-manager and installed wicd and then again the same problem. [12:56] wicd also freezing while connecting to wifi network. [13:00] apachelogger: lolz : gpg: BAD signature from "Harald Sitter " [13:02] c2tarun: what card? [13:10] shadeslayer: : sorry I got disconnected. [13:10] c2tarun: what card? [13:11] shadeslayer: Broadcom [13:11] bleh [13:11] shadeslayer: sorry :/ [13:11] what do you mean? [13:11] c2tarun: broadcom cards are sucky [13:11] drivers are not very good atm [13:12] shadeslayer: they are embeded in my laptop, I cant get them changed :( any solution? [13:12] only workaround is the STA Driver i believe [13:13] shadeslayer: yup [13:13] shadeslayer: actually in lucid and mav I have to install broadcom sta drivers, but natty first detected my wifi automatically. [13:13] shadeslayer: but now its creating problem [13:14] c2tarun: so you can't even get into a tty in natty? [13:14] shadeslayer: yup [13:14] it is so flipping hot here [13:14] kubotu: weather Gurgaon, India [13:15] * shadeslayer kicks kubotu [13:15] :) kubotu can't change the weather. and its unlickly to change before next 3-4 months [13:16] bah ... weather module is blacklisted [13:16] shadeslayer: I think I am facing this bug 734008 [13:16] Launchpad bug 734008 in linux (Ubuntu) "ubuntu natty freezes when connecting to wifi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734008 [13:18] c2tarun: no idea, i've never had to deal with such stuff [13:18] <3 Intel [13:19] :( guess I have to stick to maverick till then [13:34] yofel: i'm pondering on adding dblatex to kdepim [13:35] refer : http://paste.kde.org/12622 [13:38] I don't see a problem with that, it's in main after all [13:39] yeah, that's why i needed another opinion :) [13:39] yofel: btw unpacking stuff on your thinkpad is lightning fast ... does it have a SSD or something? [13:40] my server? no [13:40] blame the disk cache I would say [13:40] yeah .. then how does it take so little time to unpack stuff [13:40] yofel: no .. *unpacking* archives [13:42] yofel: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,size=8G 0 0 << that's the reason i think [13:42] or rather : tmpfs /var/cache/pbuilder/build tmpfs rw,size=7G 0 0 [13:43] ah yeah, *that* would be a reason ^^ [13:43] any improvements on mounting /tmp into the RAM? [13:44] and is that line all i need to mount my /tmp into my pc's RAM? [13:52] yofel: how about .. in neonmake, mount the build dir to tmpfs to speed stuff up? [13:58] shadeslayer: see my fstab for the line, but I mount /tmp as tmpfs out of habit usually, except on my SSD, there it's to prevent nonsense writes to the card [13:59] ohk [14:00] yofel: any ideas how to manually mount each and every build dir ( before it starts building ) ? [14:00] and neonmake.... a) you need sudo for mount b) I can't think of a reliable way to make sure there is enough space there. As some users actually don't use swap [14:00] really? can't i just mount a certain folder on my drive to the RAM without sudo? [14:01] mount tells me it needs sudo, you can mount stuff as a user if there's a fstab line with the user option in it [14:01] ah .. hmm [14:02] well, manual mount would be: [14:02] sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs tmp/ [14:02] or sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs -o size=8G tmp/ [14:04] so, while tmpfs makes sense for pbuilder as it needs to install a ton of stuff, the disk I/O for usual builds isn't that high, so I don't see the sense in doing that [14:07] oh .. [14:08] shadeslayer: study! ;P [14:08] why? [14:08] exams are over :P [14:08] Are there cmake macros to install .conf and .policy files for dbus ? [14:08] (I should probably ask on #kde-devel...) [16:15] bambee: hi :) [16:15] hi [16:15] there is still no work around? [16:16] c2tarun: well.. i just finished PIM ... so that's out of the question :P [16:16] fix bugs [16:16] :D [16:16] shadeslayer: :) yeah you are always very fast. [16:17] c2tarun: no.. PIM was released to kde packager more than a week back [16:17] i just got around to doing it [16:17] shadeslayer: well I am not on kde packagers list :/ so I didn't got the mail [16:17] c2tarun: file a sysadmin bug report and tell them you package stuff for kubuntu [16:18] bug report would go in bugs.kde.org [16:18] shadeslayer: I did that. Riddell commented that he want that list reserved for kubuntu-members. [16:18] oh [16:18] didn't know that [16:18] :/ [16:19] *sigh* ... docbook stuff [16:32] If I add any repository by sudo add-apt-repository. why cant I see it in sources.list? [16:37] on this https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages page there are many packages with newer versions available written in from of their name. what does it mean? [16:43] does anyone know if the natty usb creator got fixed? [16:44] jussi: if you mean startup disk creator than I used it in morning. [16:44] it was working then [16:45] ok :) [16:53] markey: poke [16:54] markey: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=73999 >> still not fixed :( [18:08] Any ideas on what I should do with the kobby/libqinfinity packages? Upstream hasn't commited anything in over a year, my bug-fixes merge request has been untouched for a year this Monday, Kobby and libqinfinity are broken in Debian because libqinfinity-0.4 was replaced with libqinfinity-0.5. Prod upstream and if unsuccessful, get rid of them? [18:09] That or become upstream. [18:10] ScottK: Alright, thanks [18:38] * shadeslayer has a headache from all the pyth0rn he just learn [18:38] *learnt [18:56] shadeslayer: ping [18:56] c2tarun: pong [18:56] shadeslayer: if I want to install previous version of network manager of natty do I have to get all the debs from this page? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/2428088 [18:57] shadeslayer: is there any way I can you apt-get? [18:57] you can force a version with apt [18:57] see the man page of apt [18:57] or google :) [18:57] ok [19:00] shadeslayer: I am getting this error "E: Version '0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2' for 'network-manager' was not found [19:00] " [19:00] am I supplying the correct version? [19:01] i have 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 [19:01] looks about right [19:01] oh .. i have a older network manager [19:01] maybe i should stay off upgrading then :P [19:01] what is your version? [19:01] c2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 [19:03] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/12706/ should I remove ~git.20110319t175609.d14809b from the version number? [19:06] one sec [19:08] sure [19:09] c2tarun: interesting [19:09] i'm stuck with the new n-m too [19:09] shadeslayer: n-m? [19:09] network manager [19:10] shadeslayer: well If you are stuck then how are you chatting :| your system should freeze I guess. [19:10] or do you have 2 systems [19:10] well.. i haven't restarted yet [19:11] c2tarun: 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 was working for you? [19:11] shadeslayer: I guess so, because I installed many applications like qtcreator, eclipse and many more around 4am. [19:11] when I woke up at 9 I dont exactly remember I updated or not. [19:12] is there any update log or something? [19:12] yes [19:12] c2tarun: apt-get changelog network-manager [19:13] shadeslayer: I mean is there any log that can tell me whether I updated my system or not :/ [19:13] ah [19:14] c2tarun: /var/log/apt/history.log [19:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/594923/ [19:16] shadeslayer: well I slept at line 48 and after that I cant see anything that is updating my network manager. :/ [19:16] c2tarun: line 36 [19:17] shadeslayer: oh... crap :/ [19:19] shadeslayer: according to log, this version number 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu2 should solve my problem [19:19] and apt-get is not able to get that version number, great :) [19:20] any suggestions? [19:25] yeah one sec [19:25] c2tarun: amd64? [19:26] shadeslayer: nope intel core i3 64-bit [19:26] c2tarun: and do you have network-manager installed right now? [19:26] c2tarun: same thing [19:26] shadeslayer: yes I am using wicd [19:26] hmm [19:28] !downgrade [19:28] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [19:28] hmm. [19:28] I think ubottu needs update [19:28] :) [19:29] shadeslayer: That's a full distro downgrade. In most cases downgrading packages should work. [19:29] yeah i'm reading the wiki page [19:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto [19:29] c2tarun: No, that's accurate for what it's talking about [19:29] ScottK: got it, but why is apt-get not able to find the version, even when I copied it from LP page? [19:30] Because apt-get doesn't install local packages from .debs. Usd dpkg like I said yesterday. [19:30] ScottK: no but it should download the older package no? [19:31] i've done it before.. can't remember [19:31] ScottK: but man-page of apt-get says that we can install any version if stated properly [19:31] ah [19:32] c2tarun: showpkg says the older version is no more [19:33] shadeslayer: well it should be somewhere, in some ppa or anything. [19:33] c2tarun: you need to manually download the debs from launchpadlibrarian [19:33] crap .... [19:33] now i'm scared to reboot my pc [19:33] * c2tarun downloading [19:33] shadeslayer: dont [19:34] well .. lets see [19:34] shadeslayer: wait let me try it first [19:34] i'll just finish off some work and then reboot [19:35] sure [19:39] * c2tarun rebooting, I'll be right back [19:52] hell, what is wrong with my natty :( I am again getting that black screen.+ when I am trying to start in recovery mode my system is freezing on checking battery status :( [19:52] what is wrong? [19:52] shadeslayer: ping [19:52] I am on maverick right now. [19:53] c2tarun: a bit busy right now, will talk in 40 minutes after getting my code reviewed :) [19:53] shadeslayer: sure :) [19:54] shadeslayer: please ping me when you come back. [19:54] sure [20:42] Riddell: apachelogger and other people going to UDS ping [20:42] pogo [20:43] apachelogger: I'm going to send the booking email to the agency, question: Are you going to stay more to visit the city? [20:44] not sure yet, if anything I'd arrive earlier [20:44] it looks like I will be leaving on wednesday [20:44] oh, too bad :/ [20:46] * c2tarun reinstalled beta2 and vowed not to upgrade without asking :/ [20:49] afiestas: oi [20:49] erm [20:49] apachelogger: poke [20:49] apachelogger: i wrote pyth0rn code [20:50] shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmR6ozpksGY [20:50] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/12734/ [20:50] is possible to update the bluedevil package to 1.1 final? [20:51] it contains a few huge fixes on "Sharing files" [20:51] that would be like to have in the final iso [20:51] afiestas: bugfixes? [20:51] any new features? [20:52] shadeslayer: nope [20:53] the current package is kinda a "BlueDevil beta", so no [20:53] no new features have been add [20:53] okay, i'm not entirely sure if it would go in, but having no new features is considered a huge plus [20:54] shadeslayer: where can I push for it a little bit? [20:54] afiestas: file a FFe :) [20:55] FFe? [20:55] Feature Freeze Exception [20:55] * afiestas has to learn (K)Ubuntu procedements :/ [20:55] erm, you only need a ffe for new features? [20:55] the current package is a git snapshot, update to latest git would be possible? [20:56] yofel: aren't new uploads to the archive now locked? [20:56] shadeslayer: nice [20:56] they are, but I'm not sure you need a FFE for that, asking someone from the release team would be a good idea [20:57] best idea ^ [20:57] sorry to be late as always guys, I had a terribly busy week at work :/ [20:57] apachelogger: still doesn't work properly [20:57] apachelogger: Says [Paused] when the song is playing and vice versa [20:58] hm... I wanted to mess around with dbus too over the weekend, something for tomorrow :) [20:59] shadeslayer: yeah well [20:59] dbus in pyth0rn is a gigantic pain in the arse [21:08]