bdmurraythat probably would have been easier than typing all of them ;-)00:01
dlbike76bdmurray:  How do you tell for sure that they are duplicates without coredump info?00:32
bdmurraydlbike76: those are apport-package bug reports about the failure of a package to install00:33
bdmurraydlbike76: its not a crash report00:33
dlbike76dlbike76:  So how do you tell if they are duplicates.  How do you determine the root cause?00:35
dlbike76bdmurray:  So how do you tell if they are duplicates.  How do you determine the root cause?00:36
bdmurraydlbike76: we'd look at the dpkg log file to see what wrong00:38
bdmurrayso take bug 76179400:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 761794 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 139 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76179400:38
bdmurrayand look at DpkTerminalLog.txt00:38
bdmurrayConfigurazione di vlc-nox (1.1.9-1ubuntu1)...00:39
bdmurraySegmentation fault (core dumped)00:39
bdmurraywhich is kind of weird00:39
bdmurraylook at dmesg00:39
bdmurray[ 2327.814581] vlc-cache-gen[6744]: segfault at 1f030 ip 0001f030 sp bfc4fcbc error 14 in vlc-cache-gen[8048000+1000]00:39
bdmurraythat's interesting00:39
* micahg saw one of those but didn't have time to attempt to reproduce00:40
bdmurraylook at bug 76166600:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 761666 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 139 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76166600:40
bdmurrayyou see the same error in dmesg.txt00:41
bdmurrayand the same messages in dpkgterminalog.txt00:41
bdmurrayso while we don't know the root cause they are probably duplicates00:42
bdmurrayand could look for a crash report about vlc-cache-gen00:42
dlbike76and the vlc-cache-gen crash report would contain the coredump to find the root cause?00:43
bdmurrayone of those bugs in the url I posted is not like the others and should be a duplicate00:43
bdmurraydlbike76: yes, it might00:43
dlbike76There are two bug reports that have different error codes in DMesg.00:44
dlbike76Error 4 instead of 14.00:44
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bdmurraywell spotted00:45
bdmurraydlbike76: I've found a retraced crash that looks decent00:49
bdmurrayits bug 76179000:51
ubot4Launchpad bug 761790 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc-cache-gen crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76179000:51
bdmurrayactually its not that great00:54
dlbike76bdmurray:  The DMesg output looks different on bug 76131301:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 761313 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 139 (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76131301:06
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mns`hi, if you want unity to work well, please don't install the official nvidia driver from ubuntu. doing that here made unity run really slow. it was a bad experience. i only could solve that when i installed the 3D support for nouveau in the restricted drivers08:54
mns`after that, everything is running fast08:54
mns`and unity is now working well08:54
mns`in the last 4 hours i was trying to understand why my phenom 2 X4 was so slow using unity + nvidia proprietary driver installed from the ubuntu repos08:55
mns`then i removed it and installed support for the 3D nouveau driver08:56
mns`now i'm having a good experience in using unity08:56
mns`at least here =)08:57
Abhijitplease triage this bug10:51
ubot4Launchpad bug 762525 in labyrinth (Ubuntu) "automatic deletion of nodes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]10:51
rr0hitI think bug 762455 must be in "wishlist". Could anyone mark it so?14:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 762455 in ubuntu "Add a video tutorial for Unity instead of the default examples video and audio (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76245514:30
ikthey all, is there a better place to put this bug:15:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 762125 in linux (Ubuntu) "[natty] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x00000765 last fence id 0x00000764) - ati graphics card, desktop goes into freeze loop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]15:29
ikttechnically it's a GPU issue but it was also a kernelopps and also a livecd issue15:29
hjdHi all. I'm testing natty beta 2, and discovered just a couple of words of the installation are translated if I choose language "Norwegian Bokmål". For this language it should be 100% translated, and it has worked fine before. I'm going to file a bug against ubiquity, anything more I should do to get people to look at it?15:31
iktdon't expect a quick response?15:32
vegerikt: hjd: the last hours shows no activity here... Since I am new to #ubuntu-bugs I cannot help you... And I do not know how long it takes before people get active around here...15:52
hjdveger: ah, I see. Thanks for the warning. :)15:59
hjdAnyways if anyone reads the backlog, I filed bug 76280915:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 762809 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation is not translated properly for language "Norwegian Bokmål" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76280915:59
bdmurrayikt: the fact that the crash happened with a live cd isn't really relevant in this case16:14
bdmurrayikt: the PCI id of the device would be helpful lspci --vvnn16:17
rr0hitcould someone set importance to bug 762001 . Watch the video attached for understanding the problem.16:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 762001 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Maximizing/unmaximizing a window by double clicking the title-bar shifts the window towards right (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76200116:37
duanedesignrr0hit: in the future do not 'Confirm' your own bugs. I will set the unity(Ubuntu) importance. Than you for filing that bug!16:44
rr0hitduanedesign: the bug in unity was not confirmed by me. I confirmed the ubuntu task.16:45
duanedesignrr0hit: oops I am sorry. I see what happened. Roman confirmed it and you just duped that confirm to the other project16:45
rr0hitduanedesign: yes.16:45
rr0hitduanedesign: thanks :)16:46
duanedesignrr0hit: your welcome. Nice that you included a video16:47
rr0hitduanedesign: i was struggling to put it in words :D16:48
hggdhrr0hit: nevertheless... (1) please, do not confirm your own bugs; (2) whenever you make a change on Status, importance, or assignment, add a comment to *why* you made the change16:49
Ampelbeinduanedesign: why do you think this is 'medium' importance and not 'low'? If I go by the importance-wiki page, cosmetic/usability issues should be of low importance?16:49
hggdhand rr0hit, how did the chat with seb end? Is this a duplicate, or not?16:50
rr0hithggdh: alright.16:50
* hggdh got busy elsewhere16:50
rr0hithggdh: not a duplicate16:51
duanedesignAmpelbein: I probably would do Low if it did not affect usability so much16:51
hggdhrr0hit: perfect. Please add a comment with a link to seb's bug, and summarise your discussion with him on why it is not a dup16:51
rr0hithggdh: the bug seb mentioned was about a displacement between global menu and the window (a vertical displacement)16:51
hggdhrr0hit: reasoning is this doubt will come up again16:52
rr0hit\me is digging up the logs16:52
hggdhrr0hit: ah, and yours is a horizontal displacement, into a left/rigth workspace, correct?16:52
rr0hithggdh: yes16:53
Ampelbeinduanedesign: ok, was just wondering. the bug has an easy workaround (move window left after un-maximizing) and is a usability bug only so --> low16:53
hggdhAmpelbein: personally, I tend to medium: most casual users will not understand (or even know how to search) what do to16:54
hggdhso my inclination is slightly to medium over low16:55
hggdheven more if under unity, which is already an unknown to a lot of people16:55
Ampelbeinfine with me16:57
Ampelbeinshould that be mentioned on the importance wiki page?16:59
hggdhI am not sure. Hell, the correct way to say it is 'I do not know'. This is my intuitive reaction to the fact that it deals with Unity, it is a weird error, and -- to me -- has a potential to hurt users17:00
hggdhso... if we can generalise this, then by all means yes, it should be added there17:00
rr0hithggdh: added clarification regarding the other bug17:00
hggdhrr0hit: thank you. Keep in mind that our work (as triagers) is to make a maintainer/developer happy. This also means pre-empting possible questions17:01
rr0hithggdh: okay :)17:02
hggdhlikde seb's, for example17:02
Ampelbeinhggdh: maybe change the wording of low to 'A usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a non-core application' and put a 'A usability issue [...] of a core application."17:03
hggdhAmpelbein: perfect!17:03
Ampelbeinbah, "Internal Server Error" after saving on wiki.ubuntu.com17:06
Ampelbeinhmm, but it saved it. yay bugs! \o/ ;-)17:08
hggdhthe 'internal server error' is looking, to me, as a synonym to 'saved' ;-)17:19
vishyup, it's an error that allows people to save!17:21
visherr. s/that/cause17:22
Ampelbeinunterminated `s' command17:23
iktbdmurray: just the ati graphics card or the whole thing?17:25
bdmurrayikt: the graphics card should be enough17:31
iktbdmurray: attached17:38
rr0hitcould someone set importance to bug 762976 .19:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 762976 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Menu is too narrow with calendar hidden (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76297619:37
dlbike76Hi.  I tried to convert the following bug 579876 to a question, but launchpad won't allow me.20:35
ubot4Launchpad bug 579876 in ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) "encrypted home directory isn't mounted if password changed by another user (affects: 5) (heat: 32)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57987620:35
dlbike76Do you have to be a member of bug control or something like that?20:35
Ampelbeindlbike76: if you are getting an OOPS, that's "normal" unfortunately. it works if you try some more times.20:42
dlbike76Ampelbein:  No I'm not getting an OOPS.  I'm getting a "Not allowed here".20:44
yofelhm, could be since the bug is Won't fix and launchpad wants to set it to invalid on convert but changing won't fix bugs is bugcontrol only20:47
yofelyep, timeout... *sigh*20:48

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