[00:01] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bugs?field.searchtext=package+139&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[00:01] <bdmurray> that probably would have been easier than typing all of them ;-)
[00:32] <dlbike76> bdmurray:  How do you tell for sure that they are duplicates without coredump info?
[00:33] <bdmurray> dlbike76: those are apport-package bug reports about the failure of a package to install
[00:33] <bdmurray> dlbike76: its not a crash report
[00:35] <dlbike76> dlbike76:  So how do you tell if they are duplicates.  How do you determine the root cause?
[00:36] <dlbike76> bdmurray:  So how do you tell if they are duplicates.  How do you determine the root cause?
[00:38] <bdmurray> dlbike76: we'd look at the dpkg log file to see what wrong
[00:38] <bdmurray> so take bug 761794
[00:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761794 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 139 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761794
[00:38] <bdmurray> and look at DpkTerminalLog.txt
[00:39] <bdmurray> Configurazione di vlc-nox (1.1.9-1ubuntu1)...
[00:39] <bdmurray> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:39] <bdmurray> which is kind of weird
[00:39] <bdmurray> look at dmesg
[00:39] <bdmurray> [ 2327.814581] vlc-cache-gen[6744]: segfault at 1f030 ip 0001f030 sp bfc4fcbc error 14 in vlc-cache-gen[8048000+1000]
[00:39] <bdmurray> that's interesting
[00:40]  * micahg saw one of those but didn't have time to attempt to reproduce
[00:40] <bdmurray> look at bug 761666
[00:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761666 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 139 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761666
[00:41] <bdmurray> you see the same error in dmesg.txt
[00:41] <bdmurray> and the same messages in dpkgterminalog.txt
[00:42] <bdmurray> so while we don't know the root cause they are probably duplicates
[00:42] <bdmurray> and could look for a crash report about vlc-cache-gen
[00:43] <dlbike76> and the vlc-cache-gen crash report would contain the coredump to find the root cause?
[00:43] <bdmurray> one of those bugs in the url I posted is not like the others and should be a duplicate
[00:43] <bdmurray> dlbike76: yes, it might
[00:44] <dlbike76> There are two bug reports that have different error codes in DMesg.
[00:44] <dlbike76> Error 4 instead of 14.
[00:45] <bdmurray> hmm
[00:45] <bdmurray> well spotted
[00:49] <bdmurray> dlbike76: I've found a retraced crash that looks decent
[00:51] <bdmurray> its bug 761790
[00:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761790 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc-cache-gen crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761790
[00:54] <bdmurray> actually its not that great
[01:06] <dlbike76> bdmurray:  The DMesg output looks different on bug 761313
[01:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761313 in vlc (Ubuntu) "package vlc-nox 1.1.9-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 139 (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761313
[01:22] <bkerensa> ttyl
[08:54] <mns`> hi, if you want unity to work well, please don't install the official nvidia driver from ubuntu. doing that here made unity run really slow. it was a bad experience. i only could solve that when i installed the 3D support for nouveau in the restricted drivers
[08:54] <mns`> after that, everything is running fast
[08:54] <mns`> and unity is now working well
[08:55] <mns`> in the last 4 hours i was trying to understand why my phenom 2 X4 was so slow using unity + nvidia proprietary driver installed from the ubuntu repos
[08:56] <mns`> then i removed it and installed support for the 3D nouveau driver
[08:56] <mns`> now i'm having a good experience in using unity
[08:57] <mns`> at least here =)
[10:49] <Abhijit> hi
[10:51] <Abhijit> please triage this bug
[10:51] <Abhijit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/labyrinth/+bug/762525
[10:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762525 in labyrinth (Ubuntu) "automatic deletion of nodes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:29] <rr0hit> I think bug 762455 must be in "wishlist". Could anyone mark it so?
[14:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762455 in ubuntu "Add a video tutorial for Unity instead of the default examples video and audio (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762455
[15:29] <ikt> hey all, is there a better place to put this bug:
[15:29] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/762125
[15:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762125 in linux (Ubuntu) "[natty] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x00000765 last fence id 0x00000764) - ati graphics card, desktop goes into freeze loop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:29] <ikt> technically it's a GPU issue but it was also a kernelopps and also a livecd issue
[15:31] <hjd> Hi all. I'm testing natty beta 2, and discovered just a couple of words of the installation are translated if I choose language "Norwegian Bokmål". For this language it should be 100% translated, and it has worked fine before. I'm going to file a bug against ubiquity, anything more I should do to get people to look at it?
[15:32] <ikt> don't expect a quick response?
[15:52] <veger> ikt: hjd: the last hours shows no activity here... Since I am new to #ubuntu-bugs I cannot help you... And I do not know how long it takes before people get active around here...
[15:59] <hjd> veger: ah, I see. Thanks for the warning. :)
[15:59] <hjd> Anyways if anyone reads the backlog, I filed bug 762809
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762809 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation is not translated properly for language "Norwegian Bokmål" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762809
[16:14] <bdmurray> ikt: the fact that the crash happened with a live cd isn't really relevant in this case
[16:17] <bdmurray> ikt: the PCI id of the device would be helpful lspci --vvnn
[16:37] <rr0hit> could someone set importance to bug 762001 . Watch the video attached for understanding the problem.
[16:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762001 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Maximizing/unmaximizing a window by double clicking the title-bar shifts the window towards right (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762001
[16:44] <duanedesign> rr0hit: in the future do not 'Confirm' your own bugs. I will set the unity(Ubuntu) importance. Than you for filing that bug!
[16:44] <duanedesign> Thank*
[16:45] <rr0hit> duanedesign: the bug in unity was not confirmed by me. I confirmed the ubuntu task.
[16:45] <duanedesign> rr0hit: oops I am sorry. I see what happened. Roman confirmed it and you just duped that confirm to the other project
[16:45] <rr0hit> duanedesign: yes.
[16:46] <rr0hit> duanedesign: thanks :)
[16:47] <duanedesign> rr0hit: your welcome. Nice that you included a video
[16:48] <rr0hit> duanedesign: i was struggling to put it in words :D
[16:49] <hggdh> rr0hit: nevertheless... (1) please, do not confirm your own bugs; (2) whenever you make a change on Status, importance, or assignment, add a comment to *why* you made the change
[16:49] <Ampelbein> duanedesign: why do you think this is 'medium' importance and not 'low'? If I go by the importance-wiki page, cosmetic/usability issues should be of low importance?
[16:50] <hggdh> and rr0hit, how did the chat with seb end? Is this a duplicate, or not?
[16:50] <rr0hit> hggdh: alright.
[16:50]  * hggdh got busy elsewhere
[16:51] <rr0hit> hggdh: not a duplicate
[16:51] <duanedesign> Ampelbein: I probably would do Low if it did not affect usability so much
[16:51] <hggdh> rr0hit: perfect. Please add a comment with a link to seb's bug, and summarise your discussion with him on why it is not a dup
[16:51] <rr0hit> hggdh: the bug seb mentioned was about a displacement between global menu and the window (a vertical displacement)
[16:52] <hggdh> rr0hit: reasoning is this doubt will come up again
[16:52] <rr0hit> \me is digging up the logs
[16:52] <rr0hit> oops
[16:52] <hggdh> rr0hit: ah, and yours is a horizontal displacement, into a left/rigth workspace, correct?
[16:53] <rr0hit> hggdh: yes
[16:53] <Ampelbein> duanedesign: ok, was just wondering. the bug has an easy workaround (move window left after un-maximizing) and is a usability bug only so --> low
[16:54] <hggdh> Ampelbein: personally, I tend to medium: most casual users will not understand (or even know how to search) what do to
[16:55] <hggdh> so my inclination is slightly to medium over low
[16:55] <hggdh> even more if under unity, which is already an unknown to a lot of people
[16:57] <Ampelbein> fine with me
[16:59] <Ampelbein> should that be mentioned on the importance wiki page?
[17:00] <hggdh> I am not sure. Hell, the correct way to say it is 'I do not know'. This is my intuitive reaction to the fact that it deals with Unity, it is a weird error, and -- to me -- has a potential to hurt users
[17:00] <hggdh> so... if we can generalise this, then by all means yes, it should be added there
[17:00] <rr0hit> hggdh: added clarification regarding the other bug
[17:01] <hggdh> rr0hit: thank you. Keep in mind that our work (as triagers) is to make a maintainer/developer happy. This also means pre-empting possible questions
[17:01] <hggdh> :-)
[17:02] <rr0hit> hggdh: okay :)
[17:02] <hggdh> likde seb's, for example
[17:03] <Ampelbein> hggdh: maybe change the wording of low to 'A usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a non-core application' and put a 'A usability issue [...] of a core application."
[17:03] <Ampelbein> ?
[17:03] <hggdh> Ampelbein: perfect!
[17:06] <Ampelbein> bah, "Internal Server Error" after saving on wiki.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <Ampelbein> hmm, but it saved it. yay bugs! \o/ ;-)
[17:19] <hggdh> heh
[17:19] <hggdh> the 'internal server error' is looking, to me, as a synonym to 'saved' ;-)
[17:21] <vish> yup, it's an error that allows people to save!
[17:22] <vish> err. s/that/cause
[17:23] <Ampelbein> unterminated `s' command
[17:23] <Ampelbein> ;-)
[17:25] <ikt> bdmurray: just the ati graphics card or the whole thing?
[17:31] <bdmurray> ikt: the graphics card should be enough
[17:38] <ikt> bdmurray: attached
[19:37] <rr0hit> could someone set importance to bug 762976 .
[19:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762976 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Menu is too narrow with calendar hidden (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762976
[20:35] <dlbike76> Hi.  I tried to convert the following bug 579876 to a question, but launchpad won't allow me.
[20:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 579876 in ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) "encrypted home directory isn't mounted if password changed by another user (affects: 5) (heat: 32)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579876
[20:35] <dlbike76> Do you have to be a member of bug control or something like that?
[20:42] <Ampelbein> dlbike76: if you are getting an OOPS, that's "normal" unfortunately. it works if you try some more times.
[20:44] <dlbike76> Ampelbein:  No I'm not getting an OOPS.  I'm getting a "Not allowed here".
[20:47] <yofel> hm, could be since the bug is Won't fix and launchpad wants to set it to invalid on convert but changing won't fix bugs is bugcontrol only
[20:48] <yofel> yep, timeout... *sigh*