ubottusoreau called the ops in #ubuntu (Rap-Suck)04:20
ubottu[Crack3r] called the ops in #ubuntu (soreau is a gigantic faggot.)04:21
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)04:22
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)04:22
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)04:22
Logan_rww: lmao, ubottu should be on some kind of whitelist for those flood bots04:23
rwwLogan_: I'm pondering that, yes.04:24
rwwCould've been worse. ubottu could have gotten k-lined :\04:25
Logan_omai, that would've been bad04:26
rwwI would have giggled.04:26
h00k^ me too.04:40
rwwThe extremely inaccurate calculation I just did based on visual inspection of http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/ircbans-year.png says that we run out of banlist space in 7 months :D04:46
elkyI think I might be able to pick the unbanpocalypse on that chart.04:52
rwwcan you figure out when I went on a poke-people-about-cleaning-bans spree? ;)04:53
rww(and started cleaning FloodBot bans, which is why the slope of the graph is a lot smaller now)04:53
rwwwell, one of the reasons04:53
fisch246i need advice from an op07:35
fisch246someone in my LoCo team has been going into #mac and #macosx several times, and ranting about mac, and he just got banned from one of the channels... i only just found out about this, and i know none of you can do anything about it, being as why i wanted advice... what should i do with him?07:37
fisch246i assume best thing to do is discuss it with my LoCo team leader?07:38
FlannelTalk to him about not doing it.  He's banned from their channels already, so that's a non-issue. If you're worried about that relationship, have your people talk to their people to make sure it's understood that you don't condone it and stuff.07:39
fisch246yea i've done all that07:40
fisch246did it all right away07:40
tonyyarussoPretty much, yeah.  Gentle coaxing about how we can all get along is the best route.  :)07:40
fisch246i gave him a talk over in our LoCo team channel07:42
fisch246and talked to the people in the room he was banned from07:42
mrmistsounds liek you're already doing all you need07:49
fisch246hey... i do what i can for the Ubuntu community :)07:50
bazhang<cgtdk> How do I change directory in DOS in FreeBSD while using OS X?07:53
bazhangperhaps offtopic?07:53
tsimpsonbazhang: he was making fun of someone I think07:53
bazhangtsimpson, the subsequent comment was not acceptable imo07:54
tsimpsonneither is making fun of a user07:54
bazhangthey've moved it to -ot07:57
bazhanggot dustin in PM08:03
Jordan_UTexasSam in #ubuntu is almost certainly a troll, but I'm too tired to op at the moment.09:02
TexasSamHello. I wish to register a complaint. I have been kicked and banned from #ubuntu because of my religious faith09:16
TexasSamIs there a body or organization where I can register an official freenode complaint?09:17
Jordan_U!appeal | TexasSam09:17
ubottuTexasSam: If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.09:17
TexasSamOk. I will pursue this to its fullest extent. To be summarily banned for my religious beliefs is an outrage09:18
TexasSamIt reflects badly on freenode, and Ubuntu itself09:18
TexasSamI think an investigation into the religious bigotry in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, and #ubuntu-ops is well overdue09:20
Jordan_UTexasSam: You were not banned for your religious beliefs, you were banned for making intentionaly offensive comments for the purpose of provoking conflict.09:20
Jordan_U!guidelines | TexasSam09:21
ubottuTexasSam: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:21
TexasSamI did no so such thing. I enquired whether a certain type of application was available09:21
TexasSamBefore that I enquired as to whether a Christian version of Ubuntu existed09:22
TexasSamIf the Koran burning program exists in Windows, what is offensive about asking if it exists in Linux?09:22
mrmistTexasSam: Maybe give http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic and our other network policies a read and consider whether your choice of language and questions are appropriate for this network.09:24
TexasSamI shall do so immediately.09:25
mrmistNote that since this in an ubuntu channel I'm not going to debate network policy here.  If you want to do so, you can talk in /msg with myself or any other staffer. (Though I'll be leaving soon.)09:26
TexasSamI thank you09:26
elkyI'm so glad i'm on an i-just-moved-and-am-stuck-on-crappy-internet break09:39
topylihappy holidays :)'10:40
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from bilal03)12:32
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from up23four)13:16
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu (up23four)13:16
ikoniaslow, sorry13:16
ikoniastaff informed13:22
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bazhanghe's been told half a dozen times natty is not in #ubuntu14:19
ubottuCanonical is no longer sending free Ubuntu CDs to individuals through its ShipIt program.  For more information please see http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551 !LoCo teams can request CDs through this link https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/14:30
ikoniaexcellent, that's up to date14:30
bazhanghe's been spreading mis info before14:31
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ikoniaI'd already pm'd him IdleOne ;)18:26
ikoniapfifo: hello18:27
IdleOneikonia: ah ok.18:27
pfifoha, theres a ops as well18:27
IdleOnethere is18:27
IdleOnepfifo: was there something you needed ?18:28
pfifono, is this a as needed chan?18:28
IdleOneyes it is18:28
IdleOnethank you18:28
* LjL just points out that hardcode wasn't asking a question anymore, but merely describing how they solved their problem18:30
* ikonia points out it was a.) offtopic and just celebrating he'd got it working b.) still about 11.0418:30
LjLyeah well that surely deserves a ban more than repeated spammers who repeatedly just get a kick do *rolleyes*18:32
ikoniaI'd already spoken to him a few times about it18:32
ikoniahence why an hour or two ban from ubuntu should make it clear #ubuntu+1 is the place he should be talking18:33
ikoniawhich he already new as he'd been getting support in there18:33
ikonia"knew" even18:34
ikoniaperscitus pm'ing me with insults now :)18:53
rwwodd. Superstar_ apparently CTCP spammed me a little about three and a half hours ago.20:33
* rww increments the idoru questionable decision counter20:46
rww!crossposting > SMG20:47
rwwI note that if I sat in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic and kickbanned people without warning for crossposting, this would probably not be considered very good catalysing.20:50
rwwI'm strongly considering asking IRCC to ask freenode to remove idoru from our channels until they get its false-positive rate down to acceptable levels, and leave it out of #ubuntu because we have our own bots that work better than it.20:53
topylirww: someone already did that20:58
topyli(the request)20:59
Flannelrww: That means you're a second for the motion! Now we can vote!21:00
topylican we also friend people?21:00
topyliubuntu 2.0 :)21:01
Flanneltopyli: No.  Operators aren't allowed friends.21:01
topylioh yeah, sorry :)21:01
topyliFlannel: got time for a short pm?21:03
Flanneltopyli: Always21:03
Flannelwell, I suppose I don't always have time, but my query windows are alway open!21:03
FlannelI do have time right now though21:03
nhandlerrww: Keep in mind, many of these people would still end up getting killed for sending the message to multiple channels even without idoru in the channel.21:14
rwwnhandler: If there are other processes freenode has in place that behave the same, I also think they're a bad idea ;P21:15
rwwtopyli: good, that saves me some time. Do y'all want an irc-council@ email from me anyway, or shall I just leave it?21:16
nhandlerrww: That wasn't what I meant. I meant that idoru is in other channels. So if a user sends the message to #a, #b, #c, #ubuntu and idoru is only in #a, #b, #c, they might still get killed even if we were to remove it from #ubuntu21:17
rwwnhandler: Ah. I'm aware of that, yes.21:17
rwwOne hopes that channels like #ubuntu requesting it be removed would cause idoru's maintainers to take a look at its sensitivity.21:18
rwwIt seems to be worse now than it used to be, so either my perception is inaccurate (quite possible), or there's some changes/settings that could be reverted that would improve the situation.21:20
nhandlerrww: We constantly review who is getting killed by it (and why) and have been adjusting it as we gather more data. The hard part is, many people only see 1 innocent message from a user and an idoru kill. They might not realize that this message is being sent to a dozen other channels (which turns the innocent question into not so innocent spam)21:20
nhandlerrww: Nothing significant has changed recently in idoru21:21
rwwnhandler: I mean over the past few months, not days :\21:31
rwwbut yeah, I might just be paying more attention now, since I started opping21:32
tonyyarussoFlannel: You don't vote after a motion is seconded.  A second makes it open for debate.22:35
Flanneltonyyarusso: Not if we're motioning to close debate!22:36
tonyyarussoBut his motion clearly was not formatted in such a way as to suggest that.22:36
Flanneltonyyarusso: His was a second, we don't know what the original motion was22:36
tonyyarussoBesides, the chair would have had to rule the motion in order before it could be seconded anyway.22:37
bazhangrelease W; warty waspnest23:31
rwwWeeping Wastrel23:31
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Heylookitsbret said: ubottu: i know this is irrelevant but is rar, pronounce rare or rawr?23:54
popeyi say it "rah"23:55

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