[00:36] <fdvalero> //
[01:46] <brousch> ??
[14:44] <slestak> good morning
[14:45] <slestak> anyone up yet?
[14:49] <jjesse> yes
[14:50] <slestak> is the usb-creator.exe on beta2 a known issue?
[14:50] <slestak> i can select the iso, and the usb stick, but the Make Startup Disk button is not selectable
[14:52] <slestak> going to try formatting the usb stick
[14:53] <jjesse> no idea
[14:53] <jjesse> i actually burned a dvd this time
[14:53] <jjesse> think i'm going to reload my win7 to ubuntu
[14:53] <slestak> i know i can use unetbootin and whatnot.  trying to use purely what came from ubuntu and its docs
[14:54] <slestak> my debmint crapped the bed today, so im trying beta2
[14:54] <slestak> kernel panic
[14:54] <jjesse> my one tie up right now is gotomeeting
[14:55] <slestak> will gtm work in a vm?
[14:56] <jjesse> hopefully
[14:57] <jjesse> rebooting to begin the install and try it out
[15:17] <snap-l> Good morning
[17:50] <slestak> intresting experience with beta 2 install this am
[17:51] <slestak> i preserved my homedir (liek I do alot) and replaced debmint on anohter partition and the resulting natty isont functional
[17:51] <slestak> is not*
[17:52] <slestak> ive booted back to the live media to see what i can salvage
[17:52] <slestak> gonna head to #ubuntu+1
[17:52] <brousch> probably a gnome settings issue
[17:53] <slestak> i bet
[17:53] <slestak> i think it might be perms
[17:53] <slestak> i dont know if I have write permisions to my homedir
[17:53] <slestak> it is listed at user 1000
[17:54] <slestak> which according to the new /etc/passwd, the new user steve is also user 1000
[17:54] <slestak> ive backed everything up
[17:54] <slestak> i might delete every hidden folder in ~ and see if unity will recreate what it needs.
[17:55] <slestak> should, based on teh fact you can create a new user at any moment that will have an empty homedir
[17:59] <slestak> gonna reboot, brb
[18:26] <slestak> hrm, no joy
[18:27] <snap-l> That's very strange.
[19:17] <greg-g> if I accidentally drag a tab out of a gnome-terminal window and it creates a separate new window, how do I put it back in that original group of tabs?
[19:18] <_stink_> greg-g: i *think* you can create a new tab inthe window that was created when you dragged it off to show the tab bar
[19:19] <_stink_> then drag the tab you want back onto the original window's tab bar
[19:19] <_stink_> then close the spare tab in the new window
[19:19] <greg-g> aha!
[19:19] <greg-g> maybe! good idea
[19:20] <greg-g> oh that _stink_, always with the good ideas (it worked)
[19:20] <slestak> got a real problem this afternoon on my bigger inspiron
[19:20] <slestak> with ubiquity
[19:20] <_stink_> greg-g: coolio
[19:20] <slestak> was talking with lcb in #ubuntu+1
[19:21] <slestak> I am on my 5 install today, the first did not exhibit this problem, all since then have so I wounder if there something cached in the usb persistent file sys
[19:21] <greg-g> slestak: I just read the scrollback of what is in here, sounds not fun. I haven't dealt with multi-linux-os installs on the same machine in a looong time so I don't have any crazy ideas for you :/
[19:21] <slestak> it is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1453020 problem
[19:22] <slestak> the fella i was talkign to was basically saying this is not a problem, that reinstalls are valid on empty media, I i called bunk.
[19:23] <slestak> if i have an empty partition or two, i should be able to install anywhere (within reason.)  10.04 was installed here, replaced by mint debian, now trying to put natty on here
[19:23] <slestak> with 2 formatted partitions, the install should be cake
[19:24] <slestak> does anyone know how to wipe out the persistent seciotn of the usb install media?
[19:24] <greg-g> no clue, other than blowing the whole usb clean
[19:25] <slestak> syslog is saying it cannot mount /target
[19:27] <slestak> it has something to  do with ubiquity and reinstalls
[19:29] <jjesse> afternoon :)
[19:30] <greg-g> slestak: can you try to see what the reproducible parts are and create a bug report?
[19:30] <greg-g> attaching all relevant logs, of course
[19:30] <greg-g> you seem to know your way around at least part of the system, so someone with your knowledge is good for bug reports with these issues
[19:31] <greg-g> heya jjesse :)
[19:34] <jjesse> slestak:  still trying to use the usb creator
[19:34] <jjesse> hello greg-g
[19:36] <slestak> i think i see what is occuring
[19:37] <slestak> I am using the 3rd option to choose my own partitons
[19:37] <slestak> jjesse: no, usbcreator never worked for me.  i had to use unetbottin
[19:38] <slestak> on reinstall, when using partman, after you choose Forward, it starts formatting and copy files while you are setting keyboard and timezone
[19:38] <jjesse> slestak:  ah bummer
[19:39] <slestak> after choosing timezone, it DOES NOT have the last window we used to have to promtp for user name
[19:39] <jjesse> reloaded my laptop got ready to build my vm of windows 7 and released i left my windows 7 iso at home
[19:39] <jjesse> yay for having a backup iso in the cloud
[19:39] <slestak> then it fails with error 10, gived me the option to continue anyway and then is stuck in a modal error "The user you selected is invalid"
[19:40] <slestak> that is the problem, when reinstalling using partman, it DOES NOT ask you to define your user.  On the first install it did
[19:41] <slestak> i need to run, got to get some stuff for my daughter.
[19:41] <slestak> bbl
[19:41] <slestak> i am hesitant to file a bug, when if comes from a mortal, it is one of thousands
[19:42] <slestak> when it comes from a loco leader, it moves :(
[19:42] <slestak> i will file it, but that is what i think will occur
[19:43] <jjesse> umm maybe subscrbe people or post here so we can +1
[19:43] <greg-g> slestak: good bug reports move, no matter who they are from
[19:43] <slestak> kk
[19:43] <slestak> kk
[19:43] <slestak> good points both
[19:43] <slestak> bbl, i am late
[19:43] <greg-g> people who see hundreds of bug a day are happy when they see one with good details/information so they can work on it
[19:43] <greg-g> later!
[20:38] <greg-g> snap-l: I'm glad we think the same regarding sparkles and spandex :)
[21:55] <jjesse> if i need the java plugin in my browser (chrome) what package do i install?
[21:56] <greg-g> doesn't chrome come bundled with binaries of everything?
[21:57] <jjesse> umm no idea need to use a website that requires java nad tells me the plugin is not installed
[21:57] <jjesse> installed icedtea-plugin
[21:57] <jjesse> or installing
[22:32] <greg-g> jjesse: did that work?
[22:32] <jjesse> don't know, getting a message that things were actively refused
[22:33] <jjesse> though not prompted for java
[22:33] <jjesse> might need a restart of chrome but don't want to kill my download
[22:35] <jjesse> @ in-laws and they are having problems w/ the intertubes
[22:39] <greg-g> lovely
[22:40] <jjesse> yeah well at least they have internet, about a year ago they were still on dial-up
[23:00] <slestak> hola, back
[23:00] <slestak> dang walmart sucks the life outta me
[23:13] <snap-l> Record Store Day = supported.
[23:39] <slestak> team, my ubiquity issue is 763155
[23:39] <slestak> bug 763155
[23:46] <slestak> greg-g: are you greg_g on lp?
[23:49] <greg-g> greg.grossmeier
[23:50] <slestak> subbing you to my bug
[23:51] <greg-g> cool
[23:51] <slestak> im kinda stuck here now.  the install toasted my grub, so bleh
[23:52] <slestak> i feel my other partitions are ok, i just need to fix grub
[23:53] <slestak> can I so an apt-get update and upgrade to see if ubiquity has been patched since beta2
[23:56] <greg-g> ruh roh: https://identi.ca/conversation/68886640 (see where they bring in Jane Silber and what she said at a GNOME advisory board meeting)
[23:57] <snap-l> Honestly, I think Harmony should just go away
[23:57] <snap-l> seriously, people are taking this stuff way too seriously
[23:59] <greg-g> well, I may be biased (given my day job) but I think copyright issues are pretty serious