| fisch246 | alright... after party :D | 01:15 |
|---|---|---|
| fisch246 | more details to come :D | 01:17 |
| FloatingGoat | oh | 02:07 |
| FloatingGoat | hi | 02:16 |
| fisch246 | hey | 02:23 |
| fisch246 | there's going to be an after party at starbucks :) | 02:23 |
| fisch246 | tomorrow i'll be sending out an email about the details :) | 02:24 |
| fisch246 | EDIT: party rename "Natty Release/Install Party" | 02:24 |
| fisch246 | er... | 02:25 |
| fisch246 | "Natty Metro Area Release/Install Party" | 02:25 |
| FloatingGoat | cool :D | 02:27 |
| fisch246 | the email might be in the evening, gonna be busy in the afternoon | 02:31 |
| FloatingGoat | what the | 02:40 |
| fisch246 | heh | 02:42 |
| klynch | Hey all. | 02:55 |
| fisch246 | hey | 03:09 |
| klynch | freakin weather | 03:10 |
| fisch246 | agreed | 03:11 |
| FloatingGoat | snowing | 03:11 |
| fisch246 | i'm so horrible at math v.v | 03:15 |
| fisch246 | i understand it... | 03:16 |
| fisch246 | but i can never do it right | 03:16 |
| klynch | which math? | 03:16 |
| fisch246 | sounds easy in theory, but never in practice... | 03:16 |
| fisch246 | algebra >.< | 03:16 |
| fisch246 | i think i'm going to fail this course... | 03:16 |
| fisch246 | i need a more dedicated teacher... | 03:17 |
| klynch | have you looked at http://www.khanacademy.org/ | 03:17 |
| fisch246 | yea i have | 03:17 |
| klynch | I love math but had such a long rest from school it helped me thru calc | 03:17 |
| fisch246 | but this class is teaching things that khan academy doesn't cover | 03:17 |
| klynch | College Alegebra? | 03:17 |
| fisch246 | nah | 03:17 |
| klynch | like? | 03:17 |
| fisch246 | intermediate algebra | 03:17 |
| klynch | what kind of problems | 03:18 |
| fisch246 | i think what i just learned is complete bull math... | 03:18 |
| fisch246 | where you make the problem look like a quadratic equation, then solve for it | 03:19 |
| fisch246 | it's mostly stupid mistakes that i keep repeating | 03:19 |
| fisch246 | like not saying + or - the answer when taking a square root of x | 03:19 |
| klynch | oh I see. | 03:20 |
| fisch246 | so like i said... i understand it | 03:20 |
| fisch246 | just stupid mistakes all the time | 03:20 |
| fisch246 | idk... i can't wait to be in a smaller school | 03:21 |
| klynch | remember roots always have two answers at least, (well mostly) but sometimes only one root will make sense in the problem context. | 03:21 |
| fisch246 | yea i know | 03:21 |
| fisch246 | normandale doesn't give a damn about you | 03:21 |
| klynch | my roomie went there. he said the same thing. They put you in a Huge computer room? | 03:22 |
| klynch | a math gaggle of sorts | 03:22 |
| fisch246 | not to be confused with "you're not a priority" i mean like, they really don't give a damn about you | 03:22 |
| fisch246 | yea they do | 03:22 |
| fisch246 | it sucks so badly | 03:22 |
| fisch246 | then hand you a book, and let you learn it yourself | 03:22 |
| fisch246 | i don't get how the math teacher has a job | 03:23 |
| fisch246 | since he doesn't teach anything | 03:23 |
| fisch246 | what sucks is i can't withdraw... | 03:24 |
| fisch246 | so i have to just suck it up and do my best | 03:24 |
| klynch | well i hope all goes well fisch246 | 03:24 |
| fisch246 | which i'm doing currently | 03:24 |
| fisch246 | this dead pixel in the middle of my screen is really getting annoying... | 03:27 |
| FloatingGoat | weeeee | 03:43 |
| FloatingGoat | goat in the house | 03:43 |
| klynch | there is something you don't hear everyday. Or may your do in #ubuntu-us-mn | 03:43 |
| klynch | *maybe | 03:43 |
| FloatingGoat | mmmm hot cheetos and cola <3 | 03:46 |
| FloatingGoat | what area are you from? | 03:46 |
| FloatingGoat | klynch | 03:48 |
| klynch | Saint Paul | 03:49 |
| klynch | you? | 03:49 |
| klynch | welcome back fisch246 | 03:54 |
| FloatingGoat | klynch dakota county | 03:55 |
| fisch246 | o interesting | 03:55 |
| fisch246 | and this is why the after party won't be here -__- | 03:56 |
| klynch | nice | 03:56 |
| klynch | I will guess Rosemount | 03:57 |
| fisch246 | but yea there's going to be an after party | 03:57 |
| FloatingGoat | AV | 03:57 |
| FloatingGoat | :D | 03:57 |
| fisch246 | details will be in the email tomorrow night | 03:57 |
| klynch | That was my next guess. I used to be a waiter in applevalley | 03:58 |
| fisch246 | FloatingGoat: gonna try amnesia on windows | 04:02 |
| FloatingGoat | okay | 04:02 |
| fisch246 | since they only have a linux port, not a debian port >.< | 04:02 |
| fisch246 | binary files = fail | 04:02 |
| FloatingGoat | ill probably be apble to hear your screams of terror all the way from AV | 04:02 |
| fisch246 | XD | 04:02 |
| FloatingGoat | I bet amnesia would run good in wine | 04:03 |
| FloatingGoat | since its a linux compatible engine | 04:03 |
| fisch246 | o never thought of that... | 04:03 |
| fisch246 | although wine is slower than just running it in windows | 04:04 |
| fisch246 | o wait... | 04:04 |
| fisch246 | i have an nvidia driver on this comp.. | 04:04 |
| fisch246 | maybe it would work | 04:04 |
| klynch | what is amnesia | 04:05 |
| fisch246 | survival horror game | 04:05 |
| klynch | oh yeah | 04:05 |
| fisch246 | i hate this... single core on the comp with a video card... dual core on the comp that doesn't have a vid card >.< | 04:06 |
| FloatingGoat | lol | 04:06 |
| fisch246 | which i why i'm going to be building a comp when i get a job for this summer | 04:07 |
| fisch246 | o god... i'm upgrading to Win7 SP1 | 04:08 |
| fisch246 | >.< | 04:08 |
| fisch246 | o i just realized something | 04:09 |
| FloatingGoat | what? | 04:09 |
| fisch246 | if Steve Jobs retires this year... the next version of Mac OS after 10.7 will be 11 :O | 04:09 |
| FloatingGoat | how? | 04:10 |
| fisch246 | Max OS X was a vision of Steve Jobs... now that he'll be gone, it'll have a new vision, which means a whole new look... which means changes enough to be called 11 | 04:10 |
| fisch246 | Bill Gates leaves... and minimal Windows comes out... | 04:11 |
| fisch246 | (hasn't come out yet btw) | 04:11 |
| FloatingGoat | what is minimal windows? | 04:11 |
| fisch246 | Win8 | 04:11 |
| fisch246 | like i said it's not out yet | 04:11 |
| fisch246 | there... i'm now running win7 SP1 | 04:12 |
| fisch246 | hopefully it'll be better than XP SP3 >.< | 04:12 |
| fisch246 | wait... | 04:13 |
| klynch | lol | 04:13 |
| fisch246 | are you following? | 04:13 |
| fisch246 | SP = service pack | 04:13 |
| FloatingGoat | im running ubuntu 11.04 beta 2 :3 | 04:14 |
| fisch246 | a concept of Win8 was released awhile ago, that showed a very minimal look | 04:14 |
| fisch246 | yea i only use Ubuntu on my laptop | 04:14 |
| fisch246 | i might put XP on it, if worse comes to worse... | 04:14 |
| fisch246 | as in dual boot btw | 04:14 |
| fisch246 | if i had more space i'd triple boot also with arch haha | 04:15 |
| klynch | FloatingGoat: how you liking beta 2? | 04:15 |
| FloatingGoat | klynch: only got it so I can use the latest version of unity 2D | 04:15 |
| FloatingGoat | klynch: and I like it | 04:15 |
| fisch246 | ready for Unity 3D? | 04:16 |
| FloatingGoat | I'm waiting until 11.04 final so i can get all the good features :) | 04:16 |
| FloatingGoat | fisch246: cant use that | 04:16 |
| fisch246 | FloatingGoat: how come? it comes out April 28th | 04:17 |
| FloatingGoat | dont got proprietary drivers :) | 04:17 |
| fisch246 | neither do i | 04:17 |
| fisch246 | but i don't have a vid card either | 04:17 |
| fisch246 | can't i use 3D with a built in card? | 04:18 |
| FloatingGoat | nope | 04:20 |
| FloatingGoat | if you have a proprietary driver | 04:20 |
| FloatingGoat | maybe | 04:20 |
| FloatingGoat | it has to be of some sort of open GL compatability | 04:20 |
| FloatingGoat | hold on | 04:20 |
| FloatingGoat | prepare for herp, and some derp | 04:21 |
| fisch246 | so i can only use 2D? D: | 04:21 |
| FloatingGoat | compiz (unityshell) - Error: OpenGL 1.4+ not supported | 04:22 |
| FloatingGoat | im using a mixture of 2d and 3D right now | 04:23 |
| fisch246 | hm | 04:23 |
| fisch246 | i never had problems with the beta | 04:23 |
| FloatingGoat | I have the 3D window manager, but not the panel | 04:23 |
| fisch246 | is there a link that shows the differences? | 04:23 |
| FloatingGoat | not sure | 04:26 |
| fisch246 | http://youtu.be/zoUTBsL7M1s | 04:27 |
| fisch246 | i could do everything seen in this vid | 04:27 |
| FloatingGoat | unity might be good for you then | 04:28 |
| FloatingGoat | it fails to start for me :) | 04:29 |
| fisch246 | haha i never knew about the, drag to the side and it fills half the screen, function | 04:29 |
| fisch246 | that's a win7 feature haha | 04:29 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah i have that on 2D right now, it's not there regularly though | 04:29 |
| fisch246 | s/function/feature | 04:29 |
| FloatingGoat | it also has it if you drag to the corners ittl fill up a quarter of the screen | 04:30 |
| FloatingGoat | I think | 04:30 |
| fisch246 | o cool i hope so | 04:30 |
| fisch246 | o crap i didn't see if my download finished before i restarted... | 04:31 |
| fisch246 | i wonder how it will work with my theme | 04:32 |
| fisch246 | i might have to boot into gnome to change my theme | 04:32 |
| fisch246 | i've restarted windows twice in the last half-hour -__- | 04:33 |
| fisch246 | still haven't even gotten to the point of installing amnesia yet | 04:34 |
| FloatingGoat | lol | 04:36 |
| FloatingGoat | I made my ex girlfriend install it | 04:36 |
| fisch246 | haha | 04:36 |
| FloatingGoat | she cant even run it though ; _ ; | 04:36 |
| fisch246 | "Nah it's a gift from me to you. Totally not me trying to get back at you for dumping me" | 04:37 |
| fisch246 | heh... apparently i have a SPDIF port XD | 04:39 |
| fisch246 | it doesn't work very well on my comp | 05:30 |
| fisch246 | i got the water part, and i could hardly tell what was going on... | 05:30 |
| * Takyoji reads up | 05:31 | |
| Takyoji | Heeeeh; I own and have completed all the games of Frictional Games (Penumbra series, and Amnesia) | 05:31 |
| fisch246 | i can't get amnesia to work right on any of my machines :/ | 05:32 |
| FloatingGoat | Takyoji: you are a real man my friend. | 05:33 |
| * Takyoji wonders how many have seen that one gameplay video of Amnesia. :P | 05:33 | |
| Takyoji | What part of it isn't working for you? | 05:33 |
| Takyoji | Crashing when you reach certain rooms, or? | 05:34 |
| fisch246 | nah too slow | 05:34 |
| Takyoji | Or awkward graphics, or? | 05:34 |
| Takyoji | aww | 05:34 |
| fisch246 | doesn't work on Ubuntu at all | 05:34 |
| Takyoji | No graphics acceleration or? | 05:34 |
| fisch246 | idk i have a 6600 | 05:34 |
| fisch246 | GF | 05:34 |
| Takyoji | NVidia GeForce 6600GF? | 05:34 |
| Takyoji | Have the proprietary driver installed? | 05:35 |
| fisch246 | not that card | 05:36 |
| fisch246 | just a simple 6600 | 05:36 |
| fisch246 | is there a GF version? | 05:37 |
| fisch246 | i was referring to GeForce | 05:37 |
| Takyoji | GT | 05:37 |
| Takyoji | 6600GT | 05:37 |
| fisch246 | ah no | 05:37 |
| fisch246 | i tried the game on windows and ubuntu | 05:38 |
| Takyoji | Very low framerate, or stuttery, or? | 05:38 |
| fisch246 | windows is too slow, and on Ubuntu i get audio issues, and the game crashing | 05:38 |
| fisch246 | very low framreate | 05:38 |
| fisch246 | framerate* | 05:38 |
| Takyoji | For audio issues on Ubuntu, you must make sure you have your correct audio settings | 05:39 |
| Takyoji | In Sound Preferences, on the Hardware dialog, select the sound card, and what it's outputs are. | 05:39 |
| fisch246 | yea i only have 1 card selected | 05:39 |
| fisch246 | the other one is turned off cause it was horrible | 05:40 |
| Takyoji | But do you have the correct profile set for it? | 05:40 |
| fisch246 | i think so? | 05:40 |
| fisch246 | it works... it puts out sound | 05:40 |
| Takyoji | If you have the wrong one, you'll have "buzzy" or "crackily" for anything that uses OpenAL or whichever it is | 05:40 |
| fisch246 | but when i play the game the sound is cuts out every few seconds | 05:40 |
| Takyoji | also, have you turned down the game quality settings at all? | 05:41 |
| fisch246 | well the only way to fix it now, is it change the audio settings manually through a config file | 05:41 |
| fisch246 | and yea i did, to the point that i couldn't get into it at all | 05:41 |
| Takyoji | "to the point that I couldn't get into it at all" implying? | 05:41 |
| fisch246 | every at the lowest setting | 05:42 |
| fisch246 | everything* | 05:42 |
| Takyoji | and still ran, but not as you expected it to? | 05:42 |
| fisch246 | on windows... it ran... | 05:42 |
| fisch246 | but very slowly | 05:42 |
| fisch246 | no matter how low i set the settings | 05:42 |
| fisch246 | on Ubuntu it had sound issues | 05:43 |
| fisch246 | at this point it just crashes | 05:43 |
| Takyoji | Just crashes when you try opening it? | 05:43 |
| fisch246 | i have to set the audio manually through a config file so it won't crash anymore | 05:43 |
| fisch246 | however i gave up and tried windows instead... | 05:44 |
| fisch246 | but it's too slow | 05:44 |
| fisch246 | i really don't get why... the graphics are very dated... | 05:44 |
| Takyoji | even with the most up-to-date driver of it? | 05:44 |
| fisch246 | no idea | 05:44 |
| fisch246 | i have no idea how to use win7 >.> | 05:45 |
| fisch246 | i think it's far more complicated than Arch and Ubuntu combined... | 05:45 |
| fisch246 | for the sole reason that it holds my hand so much | 05:45 |
| Takyoji | http://amnesiagame.com/#demo | 05:45 |
| Takyoji | Because it says that graphics card series should be sufficient | 05:46 |
| fisch246 | it does a lot for you, with out ever telling you what it's doing | 05:46 |
| fisch246 | yea and i have a 3Ghz processor | 05:46 |
| fisch246 | on the desktop at least | 05:46 |
| fisch246 | o damn... | 05:47 |
| fisch246 | there's the problem | 05:47 |
| fisch246 | memory >.< | 05:47 |
| fisch246 | shoot me... | 05:47 |
| Takyoji | How much RAM do ye have? :P | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | 1GB >.< | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | but guess what | 05:48 |
| Takyoji | all slots full, or? | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | 4GB, dual core processor on my laptop | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | but no vid card | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | on my desktop, 1GB ram, single core processor, with a GF6600 | 05:48 |
| fisch246 | >.< | 05:49 |
| fisch246 | just enough to piss me off | 05:49 |
| fisch246 | the game required 2GB of ram | 05:49 |
| Takyoji | I suppose they could have optimized it to use less. xP | 05:49 |
| Takyoji | I think some of the model or level files are in XML. xP | 05:50 |
| fisch246 | i'd mention a certain saying that involves molestation of ones life... but i'm sure even the acronym might not be accepted here... | 05:51 |
| fisch246 | s/involves/invites | 05:52 |
| Takyoji | I might even go to the extent of buying the RAM for you. :P | 05:52 |
| fisch246 | i don't know if this motherboard will allow more RAM | 05:52 |
| Takyoji | What is the model? | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | i'll have to open it up, but it's quite old... | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | i'm gonna use the case and build a machine from scratch | 05:53 |
| Takyoji | Is it a prebuilt desktop? | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | no idea | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | i got it from someone | 05:53 |
| Takyoji | So it has no stickers then, or? :P | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | my grandpa since my last comp died on me and he was giving it away | 05:53 |
| fisch246 | yea no stickers, no business ident at all | 05:54 |
| fisch246 | there is an intel sticker on the front | 05:54 |
| fisch246 | could have been put on there though | 05:54 |
| fisch246 | 5 mins remaining till i close the facebook event | 05:55 |
| Takyoji | I usually, kindly, remove the "Made for Windows XP/Vista" labels. xP | 05:55 |
| Takyoji | stickers* | 05:55 |
| fisch246 | i did that on my laptop | 05:56 |
| fisch246 | i'm replacing it with a "Powered by Linux" and a "Powered by Ubuntu" sticker :3 | 05:56 |
| fisch246 | which i will be giving out at the party :) | 05:56 |
| Takyoji | From a different vendor than System76 I presume? | 05:57 |
| fisch246 | when i get a job, and especially when i get a career... i'll for sure put more money into the parties... | 05:57 |
| fisch246 | when i'm going to NHCC i'll try and get their support for 11.10 release | 05:58 |
| Takyoji | or we could collectively fund them. :P | 05:58 |
| fisch246 | yea true | 05:58 |
| fisch246 | whatever people want to do to help | 05:58 |
| fisch246 | kinda the point of this party... so everyone can meet each other, and so i can start getting this team off the ground :P | 05:58 |
| fisch246 | a common misconception about nerds, is that they don't like to go out | 05:59 |
| fisch246 | the truth is... they just don't relate to much of anything that's out there... | 05:59 |
| fisch246 | so when a nerd hears about an event just for them... they jump at it | 06:00 |
| fisch246 | i speak from experience | 06:00 |
| fisch246 | though i'm a neckbeard... the nerd of the nerds | 06:00 |
| fisch246 | party event is closed to further RSVP as of now | 06:01 |
| fisch246 | if you still wish to have interest, talk to me now before i go to bed | 06:01 |
| fisch246 | i'll also check my email before i order the stuff for the party | 06:02 |
| fisch246 | email: paul@mcspadden.net | 06:02 |
| fisch246 | wait... | 06:05 |
| fisch246 | jeff were you confirmed? | 06:05 |
| fisch246 | ahem... | 06:05 |
| fisch246 | FloatingGoat: | 06:05 |
| fisch246 | FloatingGoat: cause i have you down as maybe :/ | 06:09 |
| Takyoji | A total of 7 participants? | 06:20 |
| fisch246 | 9 or 10 | 06:20 |
| fisch246 | i need to update that list >.> | 06:21 |
| * tonyyarusso is doing taxes | 06:27 | |
| * fisch246 pokes tonyyarusso | 06:29 | |
| tonyyarusso | yes? | 06:29 |
| fisch246 | gonna accept my friend request anytime soon? | 06:30 |
| tonyyarusso | maybe... | 06:30 |
| tonyyarusso | Once I stop swimming in IRS forms perhaps. | 06:30 |
| fisch246 | fair enough | 06:31 |
| fisch246 | ok i'll let you do taxes once i run some stuff about the party past you | 06:31 |
| fisch246 | everyone is going to receive 2 stickers... one will say "Powered by Linux" and the other "Powered by Ubuntu"... there will be a drawing for a giant Tux plush toy... when we're done eating and talking we'll head to starbucks on the other side of highway 7 (optional for those wish to just head home) and have an install fest :) | 06:33 |
| tonyyarusso | sounds good | 06:35 |
| fisch246 | mmk :) | 06:36 |
| FloatingGoat | got banned from the macosx channel | 06:42 |
| fisch246 | hah | 06:42 |
| fisch246 | were you confirmed jeff? | 06:42 |
| FloatingGoat | not sure | 06:43 |
| fisch246 | ah ok no prob | 06:43 |
| fisch246 | just making sure | 06:43 |
| fisch246 | well make sure to confirm by next saturday :) | 06:43 |
| FloatingGoat | what do I do? | 06:44 |
| FloatingGoat | sorry i've been talking about why I dont like macs in the mac channel | 06:44 |
| FloatingGoat | seeing as stating my polite opinion of why I think ubuntu is the superior choice for average users, is grounds for kicking. | 06:45 |
| FloatingGoat | and banning | 06:45 |
| FloatingGoat | unjust rule | 06:45 |
| fisch246 | isn't it a support channel? | 06:45 |
| fisch246 | and you realize you represent people who use Ubuntu as soon as you mention you support it right? | 06:46 |
| fisch246 | i for one could care less how people view me >.> but it means less people will use Ubuntu, and less support for Ubuntu in the long run... | 06:46 |
| FloatingGoat | no | 06:50 |
| FloatingGoat | they asked me why | 06:50 |
| FloatingGoat | they asked me why | 06:50 |
| FloatingGoat | and then kicked me when I said it | 06:50 |
| FloatingGoat | uhhh | 06:50 |
| FloatingGoat | hold on | 06:50 |
| fisch246 | was it #macosx ? | 06:51 |
| FloatingGoat | heres one, whats not the right choice for average users? osx or linux/windows? | 06:52 |
| FloatingGoat | "really? why do you say that?" | 06:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Channels can have whatever rules they want, and it doesn't matter if they're "fair" or not. | 06:53 |
| fisch246 | FloatingGoat: i just went into #macosx and apologized for your actions | 06:55 |
| FloatingGoat | I can do that doo | 06:59 |
| FloatingGoat | too* | 06:59 |
| FloatingGoat | I was looking at one today | 07:00 |
| FloatingGoat | br tright back | 07:00 |
| fisch246 | lulz i'm providing Ubuntu support on a mac channel | 07:04 |
| FloatingGoat | I find it interesting that they asked me to talk about it. Even though I said I'd get kicked. They said "oh you wont get kicked" | 07:10 |
| FloatingGoat | But that's for appologizing | 07:10 |
| FloatingGoat | For me | 07:11 |
| FloatingGoat | How do I pm someone | 07:12 |
| fisch246 | stop PMing them please... | 07:14 |
| fisch246 | you rant on their channels... | 07:14 |
| fisch246 | you get banned | 07:14 |
| fisch246 | end of story | 07:14 |
| FloatingGoat | Ill have a word with my half friend who is an opposite there. He told me I wouldn't get kicked. | 07:15 |
| fisch246 | mmk | 07:16 |
| fisch246 | not sure what good it will do... | 07:16 |
| fisch246 | you don't like mac, so why go into the channel? | 07:16 |
| FloatingGoat | I like it there | 07:16 |
| FloatingGoat | Most of the time I don't mention Linux at all until its brought up. | 07:17 |
| FloatingGoat | I know one time I was asking if there was a possibility of xfce on Mac. And then later on branes said something really profound against linux users that I dare not repeat. | 07:18 |
| FloatingGoat | I wouldn't have said anything's tonight if they wouldn't have told me to. I sometimes take thing | 07:23 |
| FloatingGoat | Things very literal and logical | 07:23 |
| fisch246 | literal yes... | 07:25 |
| fisch246 | logically no... | 07:25 |
| FloatingGoat | Some reason I cant pm. Oh well | 07:27 |
| FloatingGoat | Yes you are right | 07:27 |
| FloatingGoat | Wormy word choice | 07:27 |
| FloatingGoat | Wrong * | 07:27 |
| FloatingGoat | Mind you I am still in macosx | 07:32 |
| FloatingGoat | ;) | 07:32 |
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