[01:15] <fisch246> alright... after party :D
[01:17] <fisch246> more details to come :D
[02:07] <FloatingGoat> oh
[02:16] <FloatingGoat> hi
[02:23] <fisch246> hey
[02:23] <fisch246> there's going to be an after party at starbucks :)
[02:24] <fisch246> tomorrow i'll be sending out an email about the details :)
[02:24] <fisch246> EDIT: party rename "Natty Release/Install Party"
[02:25] <fisch246> er...
[02:25] <fisch246> "Natty Metro Area Release/Install Party"
[02:27] <FloatingGoat> cool :D
[02:31] <fisch246> the email might be in the evening, gonna be busy in the afternoon
[02:40] <FloatingGoat> what the
[02:42] <fisch246> heh
[02:55] <klynch> Hey all.
[03:09] <fisch246> hey
[03:10] <klynch> freakin weather
[03:11] <fisch246> agreed
[03:11] <FloatingGoat> snowing
[03:15] <fisch246> i'm so horrible at math v.v
[03:16] <fisch246> i understand it...
[03:16] <fisch246> but i can never do it right
[03:16] <klynch> which math?
[03:16] <fisch246> sounds easy in theory, but never in practice...
[03:16] <fisch246> algebra >.<
[03:16] <fisch246> i think i'm going to fail this course...
[03:17] <fisch246> i need a more dedicated teacher...
[03:17] <klynch> have you looked at http://www.khanacademy.org/
[03:17] <fisch246> yea i have
[03:17] <klynch> I love math but had such a long rest from school it helped me thru calc
[03:17] <fisch246> but this class is teaching things that khan academy doesn't cover
[03:17] <klynch> College Alegebra?
[03:17] <fisch246> nah
[03:17] <klynch> like?
[03:17] <fisch246> intermediate algebra
[03:18] <klynch> what kind of problems
[03:18] <fisch246> i think what i just learned is complete bull math...
[03:19] <fisch246> where you make the problem look like a quadratic equation, then solve for it
[03:19] <fisch246> it's mostly stupid mistakes that i keep repeating
[03:19] <fisch246> like not saying + or - the answer when taking a square root of x
[03:20] <klynch> oh I see.
[03:20] <fisch246> so like i said... i understand it
[03:20] <fisch246> just stupid mistakes all the time
[03:21] <fisch246> idk... i can't wait to be in a smaller school
[03:21] <klynch> remember roots always have two answers at least, (well mostly) but sometimes only one root will make sense in the problem context.
[03:21] <fisch246> yea i know
[03:21] <fisch246> normandale doesn't give a damn about you
[03:22] <klynch> my roomie went there. he said the same thing. They put you in a Huge computer room?
[03:22] <klynch> a math gaggle of sorts
[03:22] <fisch246> not to be confused with "you're not a priority" i mean like, they really don't give a damn about you
[03:22] <fisch246> yea they do
[03:22] <fisch246> it sucks so badly
[03:22] <fisch246> then hand you a book, and let you learn it yourself
[03:23] <fisch246> i don't get how the math teacher has a job
[03:23] <fisch246> since he doesn't teach anything
[03:24] <fisch246> what sucks is i can't withdraw...
[03:24] <fisch246> so i have to just suck it up and do my best
[03:24] <klynch> well i hope all goes well fisch246
[03:24] <fisch246> which i'm doing currently
[03:27] <fisch246> this dead pixel in the middle of my screen is really getting annoying...
[03:43] <FloatingGoat> weeeee
[03:43] <FloatingGoat> goat in the house
[03:43] <klynch> there is something you don't hear everyday. Or may your do in #ubuntu-us-mn
[03:43] <klynch> *maybe
[03:46] <FloatingGoat> mmmm hot cheetos and cola <3
[03:46] <FloatingGoat> what area are you from?
[03:48] <FloatingGoat> klynch
[03:49] <klynch> Saint Paul
[03:49] <klynch> you?
[03:54] <klynch> welcome back fisch246
[03:55] <FloatingGoat> klynch dakota county
[03:55] <fisch246> o interesting
[03:56] <fisch246> and this is why the after party won't be here -__-
[03:56] <klynch> nice
[03:57] <klynch> I will guess Rosemount
[03:57] <fisch246> but yea there's going to be an after party
[03:57] <FloatingGoat> AV
[03:57] <FloatingGoat> :D
[03:57] <fisch246> details will be in the email tomorrow night
[03:58] <klynch> That was my next guess. I used to be a waiter in applevalley
[04:02] <fisch246> FloatingGoat: gonna try amnesia on windows
[04:02] <FloatingGoat> okay
[04:02] <fisch246> since they only have a linux port, not a debian port >.<
[04:02] <fisch246> binary files = fail
[04:02] <FloatingGoat> ill probably be apble to hear your screams of terror all the way from AV
[04:02] <fisch246> XD
[04:03] <FloatingGoat> I bet amnesia would run good in wine
[04:03] <FloatingGoat> since its a linux compatible engine
[04:03] <fisch246> o never thought of that...
[04:04] <fisch246> although wine is slower than just running it in windows
[04:04] <fisch246> o wait...
[04:04] <fisch246> i have an nvidia driver on this comp..
[04:04] <fisch246> maybe it would work
[04:05] <klynch> what is amnesia
[04:05] <fisch246> survival horror game
[04:05] <klynch> oh yeah
[04:06] <fisch246> i hate this... single core on the comp with a video card... dual core on the comp that doesn't have a vid card >.<
[04:06] <FloatingGoat> lol
[04:07] <fisch246> which i why i'm going to be building a comp when i get a job for this summer
[04:08] <fisch246> o god... i'm upgrading to Win7 SP1
[04:08] <fisch246> >.<
[04:09] <fisch246> o i just realized something
[04:09] <FloatingGoat> what?
[04:09] <fisch246> if Steve Jobs retires this year... the next version of Mac OS after 10.7 will be 11 :O
[04:10] <FloatingGoat> how?
[04:10] <fisch246> Max OS X was a vision of Steve Jobs... now that he'll be gone, it'll have a new vision, which means a whole new look... which means changes enough to be called 11
[04:11] <fisch246> Bill Gates leaves... and minimal Windows comes out...
[04:11] <fisch246> (hasn't come out yet btw)
[04:11] <FloatingGoat> what is minimal windows?
[04:11] <fisch246> Win8
[04:11] <fisch246> like i said it's not out yet
[04:12] <fisch246> there... i'm now running win7 SP1
[04:12] <fisch246> hopefully it'll be better than XP SP3 >.<
[04:13] <fisch246> wait...
[04:13] <klynch> lol
[04:13] <fisch246> are you following?
[04:13] <fisch246> SP = service pack
[04:14] <FloatingGoat> im running ubuntu 11.04 beta 2 :3
[04:14] <fisch246> a concept of Win8 was released awhile ago, that showed a very minimal look
[04:14] <fisch246> yea i only use Ubuntu on my laptop
[04:14] <fisch246> i might put XP on it, if worse comes to worse...
[04:14] <fisch246> as in dual boot btw
[04:15] <fisch246> if i had more space i'd triple boot also with arch haha
[04:15] <klynch> FloatingGoat: how you liking beta 2?
[04:15] <FloatingGoat> klynch: only got it so I can use the latest version of unity 2D
[04:15] <FloatingGoat> klynch: and I like it
[04:16] <fisch246> ready for Unity 3D?
[04:16] <FloatingGoat> I'm waiting until 11.04 final so i can get all the good features :)
[04:16] <FloatingGoat> fisch246: cant use that
[04:17] <fisch246> FloatingGoat: how come? it comes out April 28th
[04:17] <FloatingGoat> dont got proprietary drivers :)
[04:17] <fisch246> neither do i
[04:17] <fisch246> but i don't have a vid card either
[04:18] <fisch246> can't i use 3D with a built in card?
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> nope
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> if you have a proprietary driver
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> maybe
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> it has to be of some sort of open GL compatability
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> hold on
[04:21] <FloatingGoat> prepare for herp, and some derp
[04:21] <fisch246> so i can only use 2D? D:
[04:22] <FloatingGoat> compiz (unityshell) - Error: OpenGL 1.4+ not supported
[04:23] <FloatingGoat> im using a mixture of 2d and 3D right now
[04:23] <fisch246> hm
[04:23] <fisch246> i never had problems with the beta
[04:23] <FloatingGoat> I have the 3D window manager, but not the panel
[04:23] <fisch246> is there a link that shows the differences?
[04:26] <FloatingGoat> not sure
[04:27] <fisch246> http://youtu.be/zoUTBsL7M1s
[04:27] <fisch246> i could do everything seen in this vid
[04:28] <FloatingGoat> unity might be good for you then
[04:29] <FloatingGoat> it fails to start for me :)
[04:29] <fisch246> haha i never knew about the, drag to the side and it fills half the screen, function
[04:29] <fisch246> that's a win7 feature haha
[04:29] <FloatingGoat> yeah i have that on 2D right now, it's not there regularly though
[04:29] <fisch246> s/function/feature
[04:30] <FloatingGoat> it also has it if you drag to the corners ittl fill up a quarter of the screen
[04:30] <FloatingGoat> I think
[04:30] <fisch246> o cool i hope so
[04:31] <fisch246> o crap i didn't see if my download finished before i restarted...
[04:32] <fisch246> i wonder how it will work with my theme
[04:32] <fisch246> i might have to boot into gnome to change my theme
[04:33] <fisch246> i've restarted windows twice in the last half-hour -__-
[04:34] <fisch246> still haven't even gotten to the point of installing amnesia yet
[04:36] <FloatingGoat> lol
[04:36] <FloatingGoat> I made my ex girlfriend install it
[04:36] <fisch246> haha
[04:36] <FloatingGoat> she cant even run it though ; _ ;
[04:37] <fisch246> "Nah it's a gift from me to you. Totally not me trying to get back at you for dumping me"
[04:39] <fisch246> heh... apparently i have a SPDIF port XD
[05:30] <fisch246> it doesn't work very well on my comp
[05:30] <fisch246> i got the water part, and i could hardly tell what was going on...
[05:31]  * Takyoji reads up
[05:31] <Takyoji> Heeeeh; I own and have completed all the games of Frictional Games (Penumbra series, and Amnesia)
[05:32] <fisch246> i can't get amnesia to work right on any of my machines :/
[05:33] <FloatingGoat> Takyoji: you are a real man my friend.
[05:33]  * Takyoji wonders how many have seen that one gameplay video of Amnesia. :P
[05:33] <Takyoji> What part of it isn't working for you?
[05:34] <Takyoji> Crashing when you reach certain rooms, or?
[05:34] <fisch246> nah too slow
[05:34] <Takyoji> Or awkward graphics, or?
[05:34] <Takyoji> aww
[05:34] <fisch246> doesn't work on Ubuntu at all
[05:34] <Takyoji> No graphics acceleration or?
[05:34] <fisch246> idk i have a 6600
[05:34] <fisch246> GF
[05:34] <Takyoji> NVidia GeForce 6600GF?
[05:35] <Takyoji> Have the proprietary driver installed?
[05:36] <fisch246> not that card
[05:36] <fisch246> just a simple 6600
[05:37] <fisch246> is there a GF version?
[05:37] <fisch246> i was referring to GeForce
[05:37] <Takyoji> GT
[05:37] <Takyoji> 6600GT
[05:37] <fisch246> ah no
[05:38] <fisch246> i tried the game on windows and ubuntu
[05:38] <Takyoji> Very low framerate, or stuttery, or?
[05:38] <fisch246> windows is too slow, and on Ubuntu i get audio issues, and the game crashing
[05:38] <fisch246> very low framreate
[05:38] <fisch246> framerate*
[05:39] <Takyoji> For audio issues on Ubuntu, you must make sure you have your correct audio settings
[05:39] <Takyoji> In Sound Preferences, on the Hardware dialog, select the sound card, and what it's outputs are.
[05:39] <fisch246> yea i only have 1 card selected
[05:40] <fisch246> the other one is turned off cause it was horrible
[05:40] <Takyoji> But do you have the correct profile set for it?
[05:40] <fisch246> i think so?
[05:40] <fisch246> it works... it puts out sound
[05:40] <Takyoji> If you have the wrong one, you'll have "buzzy" or "crackily" for anything that uses OpenAL or whichever it is
[05:40] <fisch246> but when i play the game the sound is cuts out every few seconds
[05:41] <Takyoji> also, have you turned down the game quality settings at all?
[05:41] <fisch246> well the only way to fix it now, is it change the audio settings manually through a config file
[05:41] <fisch246> and yea i did, to the point that i couldn't get into it at all
[05:41] <Takyoji> "to the point that I couldn't get into it at all" implying?
[05:42] <fisch246> every at the lowest setting
[05:42] <fisch246> everything*
[05:42] <Takyoji> and still ran, but not as you expected it to?
[05:42] <fisch246> on windows... it ran...
[05:42] <fisch246> but very slowly
[05:42] <fisch246> no matter how low i set the settings
[05:43] <fisch246> on Ubuntu it had sound issues
[05:43] <fisch246> at this point it just crashes
[05:43] <Takyoji> Just crashes when you try opening it?
[05:43] <fisch246> i have to set the audio manually through a config file so it won't crash anymore
[05:44] <fisch246> however i gave up and tried windows instead...
[05:44] <fisch246> but it's too slow
[05:44] <fisch246> i really don't get why... the graphics are very dated...
[05:44] <Takyoji> even with the most up-to-date driver of it?
[05:44] <fisch246> no idea
[05:45] <fisch246> i have no idea how to use win7 >.>
[05:45] <fisch246> i think it's far more complicated than Arch and Ubuntu combined...
[05:45] <fisch246> for the sole reason that it holds my hand so much
[05:45] <Takyoji> http://amnesiagame.com/#demo
[05:46] <Takyoji> Because it says that graphics card series should be sufficient
[05:46] <fisch246> it does a lot for you, with out ever telling you what it's doing
[05:46] <fisch246> yea and i have a 3Ghz processor
[05:46] <fisch246> on the desktop at least
[05:47] <fisch246> o damn...
[05:47] <fisch246> there's the problem
[05:47] <fisch246> memory >.<
[05:47] <fisch246> shoot me...
[05:48] <Takyoji> How much RAM do ye have? :P
[05:48] <fisch246> 1GB >.<
[05:48] <fisch246> but guess what
[05:48] <Takyoji> all slots full, or?
[05:48] <fisch246> 4GB, dual core processor on my laptop
[05:48] <fisch246> but no vid card
[05:48] <fisch246> on my desktop, 1GB ram, single core processor, with a GF6600
[05:49] <fisch246> >.<
[05:49] <fisch246> just enough to piss me off
[05:49] <fisch246> the game required 2GB of ram
[05:49] <Takyoji> I suppose they could have optimized it to use less. xP
[05:50] <Takyoji> I think some of the model or level files are in XML. xP
[05:51] <fisch246> i'd mention a certain saying that involves molestation of ones life... but i'm sure even the acronym might not be accepted here...
[05:52] <fisch246> s/involves/invites
[05:52] <Takyoji> I might even go to the extent of buying the RAM for you. :P
[05:52] <fisch246> i don't know if this motherboard will allow more RAM
[05:53] <Takyoji> What is the model?
[05:53] <fisch246> i'll have to open it up, but it's quite old...
[05:53] <fisch246> i'm gonna use the case and build a machine from scratch
[05:53] <Takyoji> Is it a prebuilt desktop?
[05:53] <fisch246> no idea
[05:53] <fisch246> i got it from someone
[05:53] <Takyoji> So it has no stickers then, or? :P
[05:53] <fisch246> my grandpa since my last comp died on me and he was giving it away
[05:54] <fisch246> yea no stickers, no business ident at all
[05:54] <fisch246> there is an intel sticker on the front
[05:54] <fisch246> could have been put on there though
[05:55] <fisch246> 5 mins remaining till i close the facebook event
[05:55] <Takyoji> I usually, kindly, remove the "Made for Windows XP/Vista" labels. xP
[05:55] <Takyoji> stickers*
[05:56] <fisch246> i did that on my laptop
[05:56] <fisch246> i'm replacing it with a "Powered by Linux" and a "Powered by Ubuntu" sticker :3
[05:56] <fisch246> which i will be giving out at the party :)
[05:57] <Takyoji> From a different vendor than System76 I presume?
[05:57] <fisch246> when i get a job, and especially when i get a career... i'll for sure put more money into the parties...
[05:58] <fisch246> when i'm going to NHCC i'll try and get their support for 11.10 release
[05:58] <Takyoji> or we could collectively fund them. :P
[05:58] <fisch246> yea true
[05:58] <fisch246> whatever people want to do to help
[05:58] <fisch246> kinda the point of this party... so everyone can meet each other, and so i can start getting this team off the ground :P
[05:59] <fisch246> a common misconception about nerds, is that they don't like to go out
[05:59] <fisch246> the truth is... they just don't relate to much of anything that's out there...
[06:00] <fisch246> so when a nerd hears about an event just for them... they jump at it
[06:00] <fisch246> i speak from experience
[06:00] <fisch246> though i'm a neckbeard... the nerd of the nerds
[06:01] <fisch246> party event is closed to further RSVP as of now
[06:01] <fisch246> if you still wish to have interest, talk to me now before i go to bed
[06:02] <fisch246> i'll also check my email before i order the stuff for the party
[06:02] <fisch246> email: paul@mcspadden.net
[06:05] <fisch246> wait...
[06:05] <fisch246> jeff were you confirmed?
[06:05] <fisch246> ahem...
[06:05] <fisch246> FloatingGoat:
[06:09] <fisch246> FloatingGoat: cause i have you down as maybe :/
[06:20] <Takyoji> A total of 7 participants?
[06:20] <fisch246> 9 or 10
[06:21] <fisch246> i need to update that list >.>
[06:27]  * tonyyarusso is doing taxes
[06:29]  * fisch246 pokes tonyyarusso
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> yes?
[06:30] <fisch246> gonna accept my friend request anytime soon?
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> maybe...
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Once I stop swimming in IRS forms perhaps.
[06:31] <fisch246> fair enough
[06:31] <fisch246> ok i'll let you do taxes once i run some stuff about the party past you
[06:33] <fisch246> everyone is going to receive 2 stickers... one will say "Powered by Linux" and the other "Powered by Ubuntu"... there will be a drawing for a giant Tux plush toy... when we're done eating and talking we'll head to starbucks on the other side of highway 7 (optional for those wish to just head home) and have an install fest :)
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> sounds good
[06:36] <fisch246> mmk :)
[06:42] <FloatingGoat> got banned from the macosx channel
[06:42] <fisch246> hah
[06:42] <fisch246> were you confirmed jeff?
[06:43] <FloatingGoat> not sure
[06:43] <fisch246> ah ok no prob
[06:43] <fisch246> just making sure
[06:43] <fisch246> well make sure to confirm by next saturday :)
[06:44] <FloatingGoat> what do I do?
[06:44] <FloatingGoat> sorry i've been talking about why I dont like macs in the mac channel
[06:45] <FloatingGoat> seeing as stating my polite opinion of why I think ubuntu is the superior choice for average users, is grounds for kicking.
[06:45] <FloatingGoat> and banning
[06:45] <FloatingGoat> unjust rule
[06:45] <fisch246> isn't it a support channel?
[06:46] <fisch246> and you realize you represent people who use Ubuntu as soon as you mention you support it right?
[06:46] <fisch246> i for one could care less how people view me >.> but it means less people will use Ubuntu, and less support for Ubuntu in the long run...
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> no
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> they asked me why
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> they asked me why
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> and then kicked me when I said it
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> uhhh
[06:50] <FloatingGoat> hold on
[06:51] <fisch246> was it #macosx ?
[06:52] <FloatingGoat> heres one, whats not the right choice for average users? osx or linux/windows?
[06:52] <FloatingGoat> "really? why do you say that?"
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Channels can have whatever rules they want, and it doesn't matter if they're "fair" or not.
[06:55] <fisch246> FloatingGoat: i just went into #macosx and apologized for your actions
[06:59] <FloatingGoat> I can do that doo
[06:59] <FloatingGoat> too*
[07:00] <FloatingGoat> I was looking at one today
[07:00] <FloatingGoat> br tright back
[07:04] <fisch246> lulz i'm providing Ubuntu support on a mac channel
[07:10] <FloatingGoat> I find it interesting that they asked me to talk about it. Even though I said I'd get kicked. They said "oh you wont get kicked"
[07:10] <FloatingGoat> But that's for appologizing
[07:11] <FloatingGoat> For me
[07:12] <FloatingGoat> How do I pm someone
[07:14] <fisch246> stop PMing them please...
[07:14] <fisch246> you rant on their channels...
[07:14] <fisch246> you get banned
[07:14] <fisch246> end of story
[07:15] <FloatingGoat> Ill have a word with my half friend who is an opposite there. He told me I wouldn't get kicked.
[07:16] <fisch246> mmk
[07:16] <fisch246> not sure what good it will do...
[07:16] <fisch246> you don't like mac, so why go into the channel?
[07:16] <FloatingGoat> I like it there
[07:17] <FloatingGoat> Most of the time I don't mention Linux at all until its brought up.
[07:18] <FloatingGoat> I know one time I was asking if there was a possibility of xfce on Mac. And then later on branes said something really profound against linux users that I dare not repeat.
[07:23] <FloatingGoat> I wouldn't have said anything's tonight if they wouldn't have told me to. I sometimes take thing
[07:23] <FloatingGoat> Things very literal and logical
[07:25] <fisch246> literal yes...
[07:25] <fisch246> logically no...
[07:27] <FloatingGoat> Some reason I cant pm. Oh well
[07:27] <FloatingGoat> Yes you are right
[07:27] <FloatingGoat> Wormy word choice
[07:27] <FloatingGoat> Wrong *
[07:32] <FloatingGoat> Mind you I am still in macosx
[07:32] <FloatingGoat> ;)