[00:13] <bryceh> what's the best way to tell if I'm running r600 vs. r600g?
[00:13] <bryceh> ah, glxinfo:  OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770
[00:20] <soreau> bryceh: The g in r600g stands for Gallium
[00:23] <bryceh> soreau, yes I'm aware ;-)
[00:24] <soreau> bryceh: I misread your statement there
[00:24] <bryceh> humber:~$ grep r600 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:24] <bryceh> [   236.995] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: r600
[00:24] <bryceh> [   237.000] (II) AIGLX: Trying DRI driver /usr/lib/dri/r600_dri.so
[00:24] <bryceh> [   237.002] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized r600
[00:25] <bryceh> was surprised I don't have the 'g' on those.  But "r600" == "r600g" here
[18:17] <soreau> Hey guys, Im looking in driconf and there are a lot of options missing
[18:18] <soreau> even in expert mode
[18:18] <soreau> Is there some package missing?
[18:33] <LLStarks> bryceh, i'm about to buy a laptop with a 6770m. will i be able to patch fglrx whenever the xserver abi changes or will be stuck with radeon except for april and october?
[18:37] <Sarvatt> no you cant patch fglrx for abi changes, we might not do 1.11 for 11.10, and it'll work fine with radeon since its a rebranded 5xxx series
[18:39] <soreau> Sarvatt: Any idea about driconf?
[18:39] <soreau> Im pretty stumped on this one
[18:39] <Sarvatt> soreau: what about it?
[18:39] <Sarvatt> sorry, missed those messages umm
[18:39] <Sarvatt> what GPU is it?
[18:40] <soreau> Sarvatt: It used to have a near plethora of options, now its next to nothing. rv350/r300g
[18:40] <LLStarks> sarvatt, oneiric will be 1.10.x?
[18:40] <Sarvatt> i'm guessing you're talking about the options that were exposed with r300c instead of r300g
[18:41] <soreau> Sarvatt: hmm.. maybe so but it doesnt make sense for gallium to expose less I would think
[18:41] <Sarvatt> the options were only there for the classic driver, its not based on the gpu it's based on what the dri driver exposes
[18:41] <soreau> ok
[18:42] <Sarvatt> LLStarks: its possible, we're going to talk about it at UDS
[18:43]  * soreau ppa-purges xorg-edgers to see
[18:44] <Sarvatt> soreau: LIBGL_DRIVER_PATH=/usr/lib/dri-alternates/ driconf should show the r300c ones to be sure
[18:44] <soreau> Oh interesting
[18:45] <Sarvatt> r300c is in there so it gets loaded when KMS isn't used automatically
[18:45] <soreau> Sarvatt: Is that to say, you can run any app with the classic drivers by setting this path?
[18:45] <Sarvatt> yep
[18:45] <soreau> and these are updated classic drivers from xorg-edgers, not stock ubuntu
[18:45] <Sarvatt> its the same in the archive
[18:46] <soreau> Sarvatt: ok thanks for that information
[18:46] <Sarvatt> libgl1-mesa-dri installs both in both the ppa and natty
[18:47] <Sarvatt> the only major changes between the ppa and natty are that i have libtxc_dxtn in there, texture-float is enabled and the tls patches in edgers
[18:48] <Sarvatt> oh and the whole libglapi-mesa package split
[18:49] <Sarvatt> err tls patches are disabled in edgers which breaks some obscure apps
[18:50] <soreau> Sarvatt: s3tc??
[18:50] <Sarvatt> yeah
[18:50] <soreau> How does that work to enable/disable it?
[18:50] <Sarvatt> the lib should be pulled in automatically so its enabled
[18:50] <soreau> But it causes problems for many apps that do not use this compression format..
[18:51] <Sarvatt> many being a few proprietary apps yeah
[18:51] <soreau> huh
[18:51] <Sarvatt> oh ya mean having it installed causes problems in some apps?
[18:52] <soreau> Yes
[18:52] <Sarvatt> is that a radeon specific thing? what does the driconf option to enable it default to?
[18:52] <soreau> There is no driconf option in gallium exposed apparently
[18:53] <soreau> This was actually the problem I was referring to in the first place
[18:53] <LLStarks> sarvatt, what makes 1.11+ so prohibitive? i though randr and the rest of xinput2 were safe for later this year.
[18:53] <Sarvatt> are you sure the problems were just with the screwed up release? I put the latest 1.0.0 in there
[18:55] <Sarvatt> libtxc_dxtn070518 had some nasty bugs in it
[18:56]  * Sarvatt has to run, sorry
[19:00] <Sarvatt> soreau: oh you're on maverick? I haven't updated that in months in xorg-edgers, I've been talking about natty all this time sorry
[19:00] <soreau> Sarvatt: Well the fact remains.. classic exposes many more options than gallium
[23:41] <ScottK> Sarvatt or RAOF: Are you aware of this: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270942
[23:41] <ubot4> KDE bug 270942 in compositing "Direct Rendering is wrongfully disabled on Intel graphics since mesa 7 10 1" [Normal,Unconfirmed]