[00:54] <holstein> COOL
[00:54] <holstein> i think the 32bit is going to go through
[00:54] <holstein> the normal intall
[00:54] <holstein> install*
[02:09] <holstein> ScottL: you there?
[02:09] <holstein> ailo: ?
[02:09] <holstein> i did the normal install
[02:09] <holstein> task select worked
[02:09] <holstein> but the desktop was funky
[02:09] <holstein> the theme
[02:09] <holstein> let me reboot...
[03:06] <ScottL> holstein, sorry was out eating with family
[03:06] <ScottL> i should do an install later tonight after we settle down
[03:07] <holstein> ScottL: cool
[03:07] <holstein> let me know what you find
[03:07] <holstein> im on the 2nd one
[03:07] <holstein> the LVM encrypted one
[03:07] <holstein> 32bit
[03:21] <Kokito> howdy
[04:54] <ScottL> holstein, ack, it's already almost 11:00 pm here, i'll start it first thing in the morning
[04:57] <holstein> ScottL: yeah, im calling it a day too
[04:57] <holstein> i got 2 cases done
[04:57] <holstein> but the theme-ing looks funny
[04:57] <holstein> we'll see what you find
[15:12] <ScottL> ailo, do you remember the log you looked at when your install failed?
[15:13] <ailo> ScottL, Yeah...
[15:13] <ailo> ScottL, Did you install again?
[15:13] <ScottL> i did and it failed at installing software
[15:13] <ScottL> this is bad, very bad
[15:14] <ailo>  ubuntustudio-desktop: Depends on hal, but is not installable
[15:14] <ailo> something like that
[15:14] <ailo> I wonder why holstein was able to install
[15:15] <ailo> ScottL, Did you check the log? 
[15:15] <ScottL> ailo, i can't remember the log location, that's what i'm asking about
[15:15] <ailo> ScottL, /var/log/syslog
[15:16] <ScottL> ailo, copy that, going upstair to check
[15:16] <ailo> You'll probably find it at the bottom
[15:16] <ailo> The error that is
[15:26] <ScottL> ailo, i have multiple problems with labavcodec52 and libavcode-extra-52 and a few other av packages
[15:27] <ScottL> i didn't see any thing for hal, but i didn't look either
[15:28] <ailo> ScottL, Ok. I never looked at the log for my machine install, only on Virtualbox, which would seem it wasn't about a bad burn at least
[15:28] <ailo> I didn't double check the image, though :P
[15:29] <ScottL> i'm going to download the latest daily image and test it as well
[15:29] <ScottL> if that fails as well then i will continue my freak out at that time
[15:29] <ailo> I will try too
[17:09] <ScottL> hi Kokito 
[17:16] <ailo> ScottL, Seems to be installing this time. But, I didn't choose any tasksels in my first attempt like last time
[17:17] <ailo> So, I'm going to try with a tasksel again, and see if that causes a problem
[17:17] <Kokito> hi ScottL  and ailo 
[17:18] <ailo> Kokito, Hi
[17:18] <ailo> Kokito, We're testing to install the beta 2 release
[17:19] <Kokito> cool ailo 
[17:44] <ScottL> hi falktx 
[17:45] <ScottL> ailo, i'm about to start installing
[17:46] <falktx> hey
[17:47] <scott-upstairs> ailo, wierd thing, last image which was from the qa testing had the purple background you talked about
[17:47] <scott-upstairs> the daily on i'm testing now has a medium blue
[17:47] <scott-upstairs> strange
[17:47] <scott-upstairs> but it looks better
[17:49] <ailo> scott-upstairs, That's strange. It was purple now during install for me
[17:51] <ailo> scott-upstairs, I was installing on Virtualbox and the theme fails on that. But, I'm pretty sure that it is related to Virtualbox. 
[17:51] <ailo> I've had that before
[17:58] <scott-upstairs> ailo, this is where i got the image earlier today: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/
[17:58] <scott-upstairs> i selected all software and it is installing
[17:58] <scott-upstairs> i might have to leave the house soon for an hour or so though
[17:59] <ailo> scott-upstairs, I see. Well, I'm still using the one you gave me before.
[17:59] <ailo> scott-upstairs, That would mean it's been fixed, then
[18:05] <scott-upstairs> hmmmm, i made to configure real time priveliges for jackd which it didn't do before
[18:05] <scott-upstairs> i'm hoping this is good
[18:10] <ailo> scott-upstairs, Good thing you reminded me. Otherwise I would have forgotten to check that again 
[18:25] <ailo> scott-upstairs, Seems like the install is working. Just need to do it on my machine as well to check about the theme, then I'm satisfied.
[18:25] <ailo> scott-upstairs, Did you have theme problems?
[18:48] <ailo> scott-upstairs, Ok. The user is in audio group. Forget about what I said about new users also. Creating new users is a different thing anyway. They get no sudo privilege either, so that's the administrators duty to fix that
[18:49] <ailo> So, what is missing is only a way to give users realtime privilege when installing from repo
[19:43] <ScottL> ailo, i successfully installed with today's daily build
[19:44] <ailo> ScottL, I had a succesful install with the image from the previous link, though I expect it was updated in between my downloads
[19:45] <ailo> ScottL, Looking at the links now...
[19:45] <ailo> ScottL, The one that failed was from 13th of April
[19:45] <ailo> The one that succeded was from 14th of April
[19:47] <ailo> The one I downloaded last was from a link /daily/current. The other two before that were /daily/<date>/, of which only 13th failed
[19:47] <ailo> So, I haven't yet installed the latest, which is from current, but it would be safe to assume, that it will work from me as well
[19:54] <ScottL> yay!  that makes me feel much, much better
[19:54] <ScottL> rock on, going out again, i'll be back in later this afternoon
[19:55] <ScottL> after i start some test for xubuntu and a dock, i want to start setting up for testing kernels
[19:55] <ailo> ScottL, Yeah, take a break. You deserve one
[22:39] <ScottL> holstein, ailo : when you installed did you have a network icon on the top right?
[22:40] <ScottL> of the panel?
[22:40] <ailo> ScottL, Let me check. I know there was a problem with icons
[22:40] <ailo> before..
[22:44] <ailo> ScottL, I need to install on a PC to see about that. The icons are messed up on Virtualbox together with the theme. So, I can't really tell. How is that on your install?
[22:45]  * ailo is burning a DVD now..
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> ailo, it looked "normal" to me
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> just as it normally does, i'll do a screenshot in a minute with imagebin
[23:05] <scott-upstairs> http://imagebin.org/148576
[23:05] <scott-upstairs> that's the same network icon that i've seen with ubuntu studio far as long as i can remember
[23:05] <scott-upstairs> this is from a full dvd install
[23:07] <ailo> scott-upstairs, It was pretty funny looking at that pic. It started loading, but then it reset. Anyway, I got a look at it, and looks normal to me too.
[23:07] <ailo> scott-upstairs, Just installing myself now. hmmm...
[23:07] <ailo> Got stuck at the part where the partitioner is supposed to kick in
[23:08] <ailo> Think this has happened to me sometime before. Maybe on a Debian install
[23:12] <ailo> BUT, the background is blue :)
[23:15] <holstein> ScottL: that icon was bad
[23:15] <holstein> and the panel was not right
[23:15] <ailo> holstein, Virtualbox?
[23:15] <holstein> ailo: i did one of each
[23:15] <holstein> metal and Vbox
[23:15] <ailo> holstein, And you had bad panel on metal too?
[23:15] <holstein> yup
[23:16] <ailo> What graphic card with that?
[23:16] <holstein> ATI
[23:16] <holstein> but, i didnt try for 3d at all
[23:16] <ailo> Could you try installing drivers too see if that makes any difference
[23:16] <ailo> On Virtualbox I think I get it everytime
[23:16] <holstein> ailo: i'll have to try again
[23:16] <holstein> all around
[23:16] <holstein> its gone now
[23:16] <ailo> And on VB there is a problem with drivers
[23:16] <holstein> but, i have one more case left
[23:17] <holstein> ailo: in the vbox one
[23:17] <holstein> i tried loging out and back in a few times
[23:17] <holstein> and the metal
[23:17] <holstein> i just did it the one time
[23:17] <holstein> could have just been a little glitch
[23:17] <ailo> What happens is that the gtk stuff fails for some reason, and falls back on the basic theme
[23:18] <ailo> Don't think that happens on Ubuntu no matter what
[23:18] <ailo> Vanilla, that is
[23:20] <ailo> The strange thing is that it only happens for the panel and the desktop
[23:20] <ailo> My guess is that this is because of some Unity thing
[23:20] <holstein> ailo: did you get iso's booting?
[23:20] <holstein> and installing?
[23:21] <ailo> I've managed to install on VB, using the 14th of April iso. 13th failed on both.
[23:21] <ailo> So, now I'm installing the latest on metal
[23:22] <holstein> ailo: i DL'd from that link 
[23:22] <holstein> but the next day
[23:22] <holstein> maybe i got different iso's?
[23:23] <ailo> They do change, but I find it confusing when. I DL'd from the first link twice.
[23:23] <ailo> And got the 13th and the 14th
[23:23] <ailo> Now I DL'd from current
[23:24] <ailo> Link is */daily/current/* instead of */daily/<date>/*
[23:24] <ailo> The actual download link, that is
[23:24] <ailo> Not the link where you go to get the iso
[23:26] <ailo> holstein, This is the link I used now http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/natty-alternate-i386.iso
[23:40] <ailo> holstein, I'm installing now, so if I get this problem, I can deal with trying to find out what it is
[23:41] <ailo> Actually, should be doable from Virtual Box too :/
[23:52] <ailo> holstein, Mine looks normal.
[23:53] <ailo> ScottL, The install extra drivers icon is missin, though
[23:53] <ailo> (it's a white square with an x in it)