[00:26] hi guys whats the easiest way to install 4.8 into maverick or lucid? i dont think its in backports yet [00:27] Officially, it is not supported at all [00:28] :( im trying to debug thunar with orca to see why its not talking and was suggested to build it from git which ive done but i just get error server already running [00:28] We can't add it in backports until Xubuntu 11.04 releases, since backports is things in the stable release, being added to previous releases [00:29] There is a ppa, but I don't think it was kept up to date [00:30] What server is orca looking at? Is that the sound server, by chance? [00:33] no orca isnt a factor yet, its when i run startx -- :1 vt12 [00:33] /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1 [00:34] ah, I see [00:34] everything built right that i grabbed from git and i also have xfce 4.6.2 installed, should i remove that? [00:34] I don't think there is any way to put xfce4.8 into lucid and maverick yet without compiling it [00:35] I don't honestly know. [00:36] * Fudge nods, i have cmpiled it from git [00:36] http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/xfce-48-ubuntu-1004-and-1010-ppas.html was this ppa you were taling about? [00:36] yes, [00:36] If so, it worked as of a month ago. [00:37] as far as I know, they were not kept up to day. They are Xfce 4.8.0 [00:37] to current release? [00:38] There were both created by non-xubuntu, non-xfce folks for 4.8 in maverick and lucid [00:42] ya [00:44] i grabbed the source [00:45] well i think i did, xfce-4.8.tar.bz2 [00:46] Fudge: you probably know better than I do, but do you have to rm the old session in ~/.config/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml ? [00:46] Won't that let the server start? [00:46] no idea mate, i dont know better than you :D [00:46] That looks right to me for the source [00:47] I am not sure, but I think you can remove xfwm4-session.xml there to start the server again. [00:48] Got to go eat now. Good luck [00:50] thanx dude [01:33] Wish I could help more with that error. When I got that, I deleted the whole ~/.config and ~/.cache to clear it. Then a reboot worked. [01:34] Fudge: check ~/.dmrc and make sure it is owned by you, not root [01:38] hm, I done something wrong with xchat and lost the menu [01:40] f9 [01:40] nope [01:40] didn't bring it back [01:41] ctrl f9 ? [01:41] windows key+F9 [01:41] Thanks [01:42] got me in the right direction anyway [01:42] Now I am going away for a night [01:42] funny the menu says ctrl + f9, but only f9 works for me [01:42] only one that works here is left-window+F9 [01:43] Anyway, have a nice night [01:43] Okay, take it back. Now F9 is working too [01:43] anyway, good night [01:45] :D [04:23] what does failed to mount drivemean? [07:39] anybody using 11.04 with a nvidia card? [07:40] try #ubuntu+1 [07:40] lol dont tell me there are problems with old nvidia again [07:42] keb, i think there may be but i would like to see if anyone else is experiencing it [10:24] my wireless on my netbook doesn't autoconnect to my home network until I select it, how do i make it connect automatically on bootup? [10:29] buff27: check the 'connect automatically' checkbox in the 'edit connections' dialog [10:34] is that in Xubuntu? [10:35] yes, right click on the panel applet → edit connections [10:37] oh! I was trying to right click the wifi SSID [10:38] arrr look at that... I love xubuntu [10:39] don't like the direction on ubuntu and gnome/unity [10:40] thanks TheSheep and Sysi [10:44] hi all, народ тут нужна ваша помощь немогу найти индикатор расскладки, точнее его нет. помогите кто сталкивался (xubuntu 11.04) [10:44] !ru | zeus [10:44] zeus: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [11:17] knome: ping === thermi is now known as Thermi [12:46] hello [12:47] i got problem with my dpkg see at http://paste.ubuntu.com/594806/ [12:47] anybody for help?? plzZz [12:48] do what it says [12:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/594806/ look here [12:49] there i got "it" [12:50] "you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" [12:50] i run it [12:50] and results are also there [12:50] hrm [12:51] (i'm blind) [12:51] how can i fix it?? [12:53] any idea?? [12:53] ??????? [12:54] idk, seems pretty broken [12:54] installing still gives same error? [12:55] yes [13:00] ?? [13:22] morning, folks. [13:37] what does LTS stand for? [13:41] Long Term Support [13:42] thanks [18:00] guys, any of you awake? [18:00] i am [18:00] nope, after story time is naptime [18:00] I just installed Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2 [18:00] and deja dup [18:00] but apparantly, it doesn't save my settings [18:00] GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. [18:01] most likely due to this, but I don't quite get how to fix it [18:01] I've been googling some, but without many helpfull results [18:04] 10.10 or 11.04b? [18:05] like I said, 11.04b [18:05] Yeah, my bad, I was googling instead of reading :) [18:06] and I assume the version of deja dup is 18.1.1-0ubuntu1? [18:06] :) [18:06] yep [18:11] Plox: My google-fu is weak today also :( [18:11] good it's not just me being a giant retard then :D [18:13] And I've tried several search criteria... [18:13] The closest I've come is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/757866 [18:13] Ubuntu bug 757866 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "gsettings uses the 'memory' GSettings backend / settings do not stick?!" [Undecided,New] [18:14] yeah, I saw that one to [18:18] * drc hates having done a google search of and having links from 2006 show up as the number one match :( [18:35] Running live Xubuntu 11.04 b2 on a dual monitor desktop. Feels great, but I can't find the option to span/entend the desktop across both monitors instead of clone/mirror them. Any suggestions? [18:36] !dual [18:37] what's that sheep? [18:37] not dual? [18:37] !dual monitors [18:37] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [18:37] right [18:37] except...i already have them? [18:37] that page has some information about different possible setups [18:38] the documentation for Xfce claims that there is an option in the Display dialog [18:38] ok, checking the link [18:38] Mr. Bot ftw [18:38] first time I hear about such an option [18:38] maybe in the new soon-t-be-released one [18:39] it's for the recently released 4.8 version of Xfce [18:41] Question on partitions and reinstalls: If one has a separate / and /home partitions, and does a fresh reinstall (formating / but without formating /home), does the re-install install new configurations in ~, overwriting any changes you made (for example, but not limited to: ~/.config/Thunar/thunarrc) ? [18:46] PauseBazinga: next xubuntu will have it, in a month [18:46] drc: the installer shouldn't touch /home [18:47] drc: but the newly installed thunar might when it is first started [18:47] right, I'm using the most recent (beta 2) and was hoping they'd implemented it already. I guess there's still some trouble getting it ready, I'll see what happens with the final release. Thanks for looking it up for me. [18:47] !+1 [18:47] TheSheep: Thank you [18:47] !ubuntu+1 [18:47] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [18:48] PauseBazinga: they might know there [18:48] oh nice, I didn't realize there was a separate unstable channel [18:48] thanks again [19:14] TheSheep: in case you care, I found a work-around on a RandR 1.2 wiki. It's easily done, but only via the command line. This command worked flawlessly to span the desktop across two 20" monitors: xrandr --output DVI-1 --auto --right-of DVI-0 [19:20] hi all, can someone please tell me if i can open a new tab using thunar? [19:25] dannyd: I can't find a way, and a quick perusal of google doesn't find one. [19:25] dannyd: you can't, thunar doesn't have tabs, you can open a new window [19:26] dannyd: you might try pcman if you really absolutely need tabs [19:28] TheSheep: ok thanks, i think im going to try pcman,, [19:29] i like tabs :) [19:29] Do you mean pcmanfm? [19:32] yes, having just started using linux i am used to nautilus, and was quite happy with xfce, until i found out thunar had no tabs :( [19:34] damn [19:34] this deja dup bug is annoying me :/ [19:35] apt-get purge thunar\n apt-get autoremove\n <--- will that completely get rid of thunar? [19:36] does anyone know why this [19:36] GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. [19:37] shows up when Is tart deja dup, and it doesn't save any settings so I can't set up automated backups? [19:37] deja dup 18.1.1 [19:37] and xubuntu 11.04b [19:40] how do i configure pcmanfm to be the default using xfce-settings? [19:57] I just made a change to the menu.xml file, is there some command i can use to restart the service? [20:00] without having to restart my computer?, can i just log out and log back in? [20:11] seems i've lost the menu on the top of desktop [20:11] installed last December on an HP computer [20:12] only way to access the programs is with the right button [20:15] found it press Alt+F2 .. and in the box that appears type xfce4-panel [20:26] Hi all. I know I can switch among workspaces using ctrl+FN but does anyone know how I can change that? [20:37] inaety: Change it how? BTW, CTRL+ALT+right/left arrow also works (and wraps around to boot :) [20:37] drc, i actually cant get it to wrap [20:38] but i figured it out Settings > window manager > keyboard > change desktop. my stupid laptop makes me use an Fn key to access the F keys. so I made it Super>N. works so well [20:38] inaety: Insert the standard response...works here. [20:39] drc, haha its not something im gonna worry over [20:40] inaety: Also see Window Manager> Advanced> Wrap Workspaces [20:41] drc, nothing [20:42] 10.10 or 11.04b2? May be different, dunno (xfce 4.6 vs 4.8) [20:43] ah [20:43] 10.10 but unofficially updated to 4.8 [20:44] I'm running 11.04b2...the xfce 4.8 should be the same (?) [20:44] yeah [20:45] my guess is that that its something with ubuntu [20:45] not xfce [20:45] what are you options under Wrap Workspaces [20:45] bith unchecked [20:46] both, that is [20:46] same [20:46] i dunno, im way satisfied with super>N [20:47] you should try it if youre not on a mac [20:47] Check Window Manager Tweaks> workspaces ? [20:48] I'm satisfied with a mouse click or CA-rt/lft arrow [20:48] where is Window Manager Tweaks [20:49] Settings Manager, between Window Manager and Workspaces [20:51] nice find@ [20:51] ! [20:51] Wrap workspaces when the firstr or last workspace is reached [20:52] inaety: I have broken this box so many times and in so many ways (and gotten help here) that I know where lots of things are (using them correctly is another matter) [20:53] drc, haha man be careful [20:53] Careful? Moi? [20:54] Everything in excess...moderation is for monks! [20:55] can't argue with that [20:55] you can, but I'll put you on /ignore [20:55] ask my wife [20:56] am i sensing an offtopic discussion? while random chatter is very much encouraged, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for that :) [20:57] * drc is properly chastised... [21:01] hello [21:02] I'm trying to work around the Too Many Connections bug when I activate the nvidia drivers. [21:03] I've been told to backup my xorg.conf file, activate the driver, then revert to backup. [21:03] When I look for the file in X11 folder, it's not there until after I activate. [21:03] Any suggestions? TIA [21:03] It may be in your /home/you/xorg.conf.new [21:04] No, didn't see it there. [21:04] Sorry, wrong answer [21:05] You must first do: sudo X -configure if you want an xorg.conf [21:06] I tried sudo nvidia-settings but got a command not found error. [21:06] should I try sudo nvidia-configure instead? [21:11] nvidia-settings is supposed to come with the nvidia drivers (not nvidia-configure) [21:11] i'm in W7 now so I'm going to switch over and try it. [21:19] The sudo nvidia-configure didn't work either [23:24] is there an app for controlling fan speed/temp? [23:33] metroid1, try; sudo apt-cache search fan | egrep 'speed|temp'