| rbelem | ScottK, just pushed the changes https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem/ubuntu/natty/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/plasma-mobile-patches | 00:01 |
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| rbelem | GrueMaster, ^ | 00:01 |
| rbelem | ow i found one corner case | 00:04 |
| rbelem | the live user is 999 | 00:05 |
| rbelem | and i was planing to not install another /etc/default/nodm | 00:06 |
| rbelem | i think the solution is to install our /etc/default/nodm | 00:08 |
| rbelem | ScottK, do you know if is there a way to know that a package is being installed in a live image? | 00:12 |
| rbelem | ScottK, cos i could set the NODM_USER to ubuntu in the postinst script if the target installation is a live image and if nodm is already installed | 00:14 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | hm, now I indeed have compositing back on my eeePC but unless I disable a couple of effects kwin is so slow that it immediately disables itself unless I disable the functionality checks | 00:57 |
| yofel | xrender works ok, and disabling all effects that don't work in xrender makes opengl work fine again too | 00:58 |
| * yofel will talk to martin about that | 00:58 | |
| nixternal | DarkwingDuck and Riddell: I have fixed the documentation in bzr. I will build a package and upload shortly, as long as there isn't a freeze on that prevents me of course | 02:09 |
| * nixternal has to admit, that was a bit of fun getting the docs to build again | 02:23 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i rewrote in sh | 02:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, http://paste.kde.org/12753/ | 02:52 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, is it ok? | 02:52 |
| rbelem | hi GrueMaster | 03:14 |
| rbelem | GrueMaster, could you test lp:~rbelem/ubuntu/natty/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/plasma-mobile-patches when you had time? | 03:15 |
| rbelem | i'm going to sleep | 03:15 |
| rbelem | night all | 03:16 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: hey your network-manager working fine? | 03:18 |
| nixternal | is there a new way to sign packages or something? I just dput kubuntu-docs and it is telling me that Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times | 03:48 |
| maco | did you maybe -uc -us when you debuild -S'd? | 04:06 |
| maco | debsign should work for after-the-fact... | 04:06 |
| nixternal | just my regular 'debuild -S -sa' and even tried just 'debuild -S' | 04:07 |
| nixternal | well the changes file is signed correctly, dput even tells me so | 04:07 |
| nixternal | Checking signature on .changes | 04:08 |
| nixternal | gpg: Signature made Sat 16 Apr 2011 10:00:23 PM CDT using RSA key ID D8C44738 | 04:08 |
| nixternal | gpg: Good signature from "Richard A. Johnson | 04:08 |
| c2tarun | I tried to activate explosion desktop effect but I got an error that it cannot be activated. why so? | 06:13 |
| valorie | did it use to work in Mav? | 06:19 |
| valorie | someone was complaining that 4.6.2 effects are not good | 06:19 |
| valorie | they are excellent for me with Raster | 06:19 |
| valorie | but that's Mav..... | 06:19 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I am on natty :/ and natty has 4.6.1 :( | 07:30 |
| valorie | interesting! | 07:31 |
| valorie | I have 4.6.2! | 07:31 |
| valorie | weird! | 07:31 |
| c2tarun | valorie: and after the problem I faced with network-manager last night, I am not willing to upgrade for another week :) | 07:33 |
| valorie | I hear you | 07:34 |
| valorie | me either! | 07:34 |
| valorie | I think I'll wait until release | 07:34 |
| c2tarun | :) | 07:34 |
| valorie | although I did get the beta ISOs | 07:34 |
| valorie | so I might make a live USB | 07:34 |
| valorie | and try | 07:34 |
| valorie | did you do that first? | 07:34 |
| valorie | actually, you ran lots of Natty vms, didn't you | 07:35 |
| valorie | so this all might have been a surprise. | 07:35 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I tried with beta2 iso, the version of n-m in iso is working fine, but the new version in repo is creating lots of problem. | 07:35 |
| valorie | ok | 07:36 |
| valorie | good to know | 07:36 |
| bambee | morning | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: looks good to me :) | 11:23 |
| debfx | currently power management is so broken | 11:29 |
| debfx | not even dragon player inhibits turning the screen off | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: yes | 11:47 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: your n-m working? | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | yrp | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | *yep | 11:48 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: so I am the only one who got stuck :/ | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | looks like it | 11:49 |
| c2tarun | hmm... | 11:50 |
| Mamarok | and here we are again: Nepomuk is going wild on Natty, it uses 100% CPU and completely freezes the system. Strigi was already disabled, so it is really a Nepomuk problem | 12:34 |
| c2tarun | Mamarok: I also get this nepomuk crash error sometime but my system doesn't freeze, what is nepomuk? | 12:40 |
| Mamarok | c2tarun: Nepomuk is the semantic desktop tool: http://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk | 12:49 |
| c2tarun | If I somehow backup my root partition than on restoring will I get all my installed applications back or not? My home folder is in separate partition so no need of backing it up. | 12:50 |
| Mamarok | why backing up a root partition, except for the system configuration folders? You can easily and faster reinstall the applications, just make a list of the installed ones | 12:52 |
| Mamarok | there is a tool that allows to get a list of the installed software packages than cna then be retrieved to reinstall thinks, let me check | 12:53 |
| Mamarok | can* | 12:53 |
| Mamarok | right | 12:57 |
| c2tarun | If I somehow backup my root partition than on restoring will I get all my installed applications back or not? My home folder is in separate partition so no need of backing it up. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | nixternal: The dput thing is a LP bug. The package still gets uploaded when you get that error, so don't sweat it. | 14:34 |
| c2tarun | anybody used kbackup? | 14:41 |
| ScottK | Look who the Debian maintainer for the package is. | 16:08 |
| c2tarun | I am trying to make backup or my root partition by tar cjpf and it is halted at /proc/kcore. is this /proc/kcore very big file? | 16:18 |
| ScottK | Don't try to backup /proc | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Or /dev | 16:19 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: why so? | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Because they aren't normal files. They are part of the system state. | 16:20 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: so in case of system crash is it possible to restore everything without these files in backup? | 16:20 |
| c2tarun | I mean a restore which includes all the applications that in installed? | 16:21 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 16:22 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: so in case of system crash I just extract the tarball onto a drive and it will restore my whole system, how will I get dev and proc then? do I have to create these folder manually? | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Those are created when you install/boot the system. | 16:26 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: ok, so extracting and then installing grub will create these folders? | 16:27 |
| ScottK | It's more complicated than that. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | You should really concentrate on backing up your data/configuration information and plan on reinstalling. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | You can use dpgk --get-selections to get a list of installed pacakges. | 16:28 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: actually I have slow internet connection, so reinstalling every application normally takes whole night or more. | 16:28 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: is it possible to backup my root folder in such a way that I can restore my system into the state in which it is now? | 16:30 |
| ScottK | Probably. I've never tried it. | 16:30 |
| c2tarun | :( | 16:31 |
| c2tarun | anybody here ever backed up root partition completely? | 16:33 |
| jussi | !info dd | c2tarun | 16:34 |
| ubottu | c2tarun: Package dd does not exist in maverick | 16:34 |
| jussi | oh, not a package | 16:34 |
| c2tarun | !dd | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dd | 16:34 |
| jussi | anyway, dd is what I would use - probably best to ask in #kubuntu for support though | 16:34 |
| jussi | c2tarun: you can: man dd | 16:35 |
| c2tarun | jussi: what is dd? | 16:35 |
| c2tarun | ohh.. | 16:35 |
| * afiestas just reinstalled kubuntu natty with a fresh beta2 | 17:23 | |
| * afiestas notices libbluedevil is 1.8.1 while bluedevil is 1.1, libbluedevil should be 1.9 | 17:24 | |
| debfx | afiestas: what's new in 1.9? | 17:52 |
| debfx | and where can I download it? | 17:53 |
| afiestas | debfx: a few new methods used by bluedevil 1.1 so we don't freeze the interface in a few places | 17:55 |
| afiestas | debfx: I'm sure a tarbal is somewhere download.kde.org, but I don't know where | 17:57 |
| afiestas | you can grab the git tag though | 17:57 |
| debfx | ah yes, it's in unstable/libbluedevil | 17:58 |
| debfx | hm "unstable" ;) | 17:59 |
| afiestas | debfx: it is on unstable because it is a playground project | 18:01 |
| afiestas | but the release is considered stable by upstream | 18:01 |
| debfx | hm ok, we are rather close to the release though | 18:13 |
| afiestas | debfx: I know :/ I had some personal matters to attend so I couldn't test kubuntu builds before | 18:14 |
| afiestas | in fact, both libbluedevil and bluedevil should be updated, libbluedevil to 1.9 and bluedevil to 1.1 | 18:15 |
| debfx | ScottK: k-d-s with a kubuntu blue grub background is in the queue | 18:32 |
| bambee | userconfig no longer runs as root :) | 18:45 |
| ScottK | debfx: Thanks. I'll have a look. | 19:50 |
| ScottK | debfx: Accepted. | 19:55 |
| c2tarun | Gimp is crashing in kubuntu is there any alternative of gimp? | 19:56 |
| c2tarun | is there anyway I can upgrade these packages dpkg, libattr1, libgtk2.0-common, libpam-modules, libpam-modules-bin, libpam0g, shared-mime-info without upgrading my network-manager? | 19:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: ping | 20:06 |
| nixternal | DarkwingDuck: pong | 20:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh goody. | 20:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 20:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | Care to do some training? | 20:11 |
| nixternal | can't right now, bike ride in a few :) | 20:12 |
| nixternal | what kind of training were you looking for? | 20:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | The next step in the docs process. | 20:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | But, if you are going to be riding I'll wait till you have time. | 20:12 |
| nixternal | wait a few days before release, download the translations from LP, incorporate them, and repackage :) | 20:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | that's what I'm refering to. I'll catch you when you have time. | 20:13 |
| * nixternal adds 'document documentation process' to his todo list | 20:13 | |
| nixternal | though, to be honest, i really want to streamline everything in the next cycle | 20:13 |
| nixternal | kde did it upstream, and that's why are docs were broken. | 20:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay. we'll work on that... maybe I can learn by helping. | 20:14 |
| nixternal | refreshing myself on xsl stylesheets last night was not fun. actually it was a little fun, but annoying at the same time | 20:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | Seeing that you taught me doc work so well. | 20:14 |
| nixternal | pfft, i didn't teach you a damn thing, you already knew the stuff coming in | 20:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | Heh! i knew a little about Docbook but, that's about it. | 20:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | You gave me the crash course on everything. | 20:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | I know nothing about packaging | 20:15 |
| nixternal | alrighty, gotta go scarf down a PB&J, a bannana, and a can of coke | 20:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | and that packaging guide... forgive my bluntness but, I don't want to know all 9 ways to do things. | 20:15 |
| nixternal | hehe | 20:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | I want to learn one at a time not all 9 at once. | 20:16 |
| nixternal | i will be back in probably 5 hours, maybe less depending on how long i can do 50 miles today | 20:16 |
| nixternal | shooting for 3 hours, but that depends on how many red lights i hit | 20:16 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay... when/if you have time shoot me a text. | 20:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll be watching hockey all night. | 20:26 |
| ScottK | debfx: Looks greaqt. Thanks again. | 22:20 |
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