[00:01] ScottK, just pushed the changes https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem/ubuntu/natty/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/plasma-mobile-patches [00:01] GrueMaster, ^ [00:04] ow i found one corner case [00:05] the live user is 999 [00:06] and i was planing to not install another /etc/default/nodm [00:08] i think the solution is to install our /etc/default/nodm [00:12] ScottK, do you know if is there a way to know that a package is being installed in a live image? [00:14] ScottK, cos i could set the NODM_USER to ubuntu in the postinst script if the target installation is a live image and if nodm is already installed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:57] hm, now I indeed have compositing back on my eeePC but unless I disable a couple of effects kwin is so slow that it immediately disables itself unless I disable the functionality checks [00:58] xrender works ok, and disabling all effects that don't work in xrender makes opengl work fine again too [00:58] * yofel will talk to martin about that [02:09] DarkwingDuck and Riddell: I have fixed the documentation in bzr. I will build a package and upload shortly, as long as there isn't a freeze on that prevents me of course [02:23] * nixternal has to admit, that was a bit of fun getting the docs to build again [02:52] apachelogger, i rewrote in sh [02:52] apachelogger, http://paste.kde.org/12753/ [02:52] apachelogger, is it ok? [03:14] hi GrueMaster [03:15] GrueMaster, could you test lp:~rbelem/ubuntu/natty/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/plasma-mobile-patches when you had time? [03:15] i'm going to sleep [03:16] night all [03:18] shadeslayer: hey your network-manager working fine? [03:48] is there a new way to sign packages or something? I just dput kubuntu-docs and it is telling me that Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times [04:06] did you maybe -uc -us when you debuild -S'd? [04:06] debsign should work for after-the-fact... [04:07] just my regular 'debuild -S -sa' and even tried just 'debuild -S' [04:07] well the changes file is signed correctly, dput even tells me so [04:08] Checking signature on .changes [04:08] gpg: Signature made Sat 16 Apr 2011 10:00:23 PM CDT using RSA key ID D8C44738 [04:08] gpg: Good signature from "Richard A. Johnson [06:13] I tried to activate explosion desktop effect but I got an error that it cannot be activated. why so? [06:19] did it use to work in Mav? [06:19] someone was complaining that 4.6.2 effects are not good [06:19] they are excellent for me with Raster [06:19] but that's Mav..... [07:30] valorie: I am on natty :/ and natty has 4.6.1 :( [07:31] interesting! [07:31] I have 4.6.2! [07:31] weird! [07:33] valorie: and after the problem I faced with network-manager last night, I am not willing to upgrade for another week :) [07:34] I hear you [07:34] me either! [07:34] I think I'll wait until release [07:34] :) [07:34] although I did get the beta ISOs [07:34] so I might make a live USB [07:34] and try [07:34] did you do that first? [07:35] actually, you ran lots of Natty vms, didn't you [07:35] so this all might have been a surprise. [07:35] valorie: I tried with beta2 iso, the version of n-m in iso is working fine, but the new version in repo is creating lots of problem. [07:36] ok [07:36] good to know [08:40] morning [11:23] rbelem: looks good to me :) [11:29] currently power management is so broken [11:29] not even dragon player inhibits turning the screen off [11:47] c2tarun: yes [11:48] shadeslayer: your n-m working? [11:48] yrp [11:48] *yep [11:49] shadeslayer: so I am the only one who got stuck :/ [11:49] looks like it [11:50] hmm... [12:34] and here we are again: Nepomuk is going wild on Natty, it uses 100% CPU and completely freezes the system. Strigi was already disabled, so it is really a Nepomuk problem [12:40] Mamarok: I also get this nepomuk crash error sometime but my system doesn't freeze, what is nepomuk? [12:49] c2tarun: Nepomuk is the semantic desktop tool: http://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk [12:50] If I somehow backup my root partition than on restoring will I get all my installed applications back or not? My home folder is in separate partition so no need of backing it up. [12:52] why backing up a root partition, except for the system configuration folders? You can easily and faster reinstall the applications, just make a list of the installed ones [12:53] there is a tool that allows to get a list of the installed software packages than cna then be retrieved to reinstall thinks, let me check [12:53] can* [12:57] right [14:33] If I somehow backup my root partition than on restoring will I get all my installed applications back or not? My home folder is in separate partition so no need of backing it up. [14:34] nixternal: The dput thing is a LP bug. The package still gets uploaded when you get that error, so don't sweat it. [14:41] anybody used kbackup? [16:08] Look who the Debian maintainer for the package is. [16:18] I am trying to make backup or my root partition by tar cjpf and it is halted at /proc/kcore. is this /proc/kcore very big file? [16:19] Don't try to backup /proc [16:19] Or /dev [16:19] ScottK: why so? [16:20] Because they aren't normal files. They are part of the system state. [16:20] ScottK: so in case of system crash is it possible to restore everything without these files in backup? [16:21] I mean a restore which includes all the applications that in installed? [16:22] Yes. [16:25] ScottK: so in case of system crash I just extract the tarball onto a drive and it will restore my whole system, how will I get dev and proc then? do I have to create these folder manually? [16:26] Those are created when you install/boot the system. [16:27] ScottK: ok, so extracting and then installing grub will create these folders? [16:27] It's more complicated than that. [16:27] You should really concentrate on backing up your data/configuration information and plan on reinstalling. [16:28] You can use dpgk --get-selections to get a list of installed pacakges. [16:28] ScottK: actually I have slow internet connection, so reinstalling every application normally takes whole night or more. [16:30] ScottK: is it possible to backup my root folder in such a way that I can restore my system into the state in which it is now? [16:30] Probably. I've never tried it. [16:31] :( [16:33] anybody here ever backed up root partition completely? [16:34] !info dd | c2tarun [16:34] c2tarun: Package dd does not exist in maverick [16:34] oh, not a package [16:34] !dd [16:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about dd [16:34] anyway, dd is what I would use - probably best to ask in #kubuntu for support though [16:35] c2tarun: you can: man dd [16:35] jussi: what is dd? [16:35] ohh.. [17:23] * afiestas just reinstalled kubuntu natty with a fresh beta2 [17:24] * afiestas notices libbluedevil is 1.8.1 while bluedevil is 1.1, libbluedevil should be 1.9 [17:52] afiestas: what's new in 1.9? [17:53] and where can I download it? [17:55] debfx: a few new methods used by bluedevil 1.1 so we don't freeze the interface in a few places [17:57] debfx: I'm sure a tarbal is somewhere download.kde.org, but I don't know where [17:57] you can grab the git tag though [17:58] ah yes, it's in unstable/libbluedevil [17:59] hm "unstable" ;) [18:01] debfx: it is on unstable because it is a playground project [18:01] but the release is considered stable by upstream [18:13] hm ok, we are rather close to the release though [18:14] debfx: I know :/ I had some personal matters to attend so I couldn't test kubuntu builds before [18:15] in fact, both libbluedevil and bluedevil should be updated, libbluedevil to 1.9 and bluedevil to 1.1 [18:32] ScottK: k-d-s with a kubuntu blue grub background is in the queue [18:45] userconfig no longer runs as root :) [19:50] debfx: Thanks. I'll have a look. [19:55] debfx: Accepted. [19:56] Gimp is crashing in kubuntu is there any alternative of gimp? [19:58] is there anyway I can upgrade these packages dpkg, libattr1, libgtk2.0-common, libpam-modules, libpam-modules-bin, libpam0g, shared-mime-info without upgrading my network-manager? [20:06] nixternal: ping [20:11] DarkwingDuck: pong [20:11] Oh goody. [20:11] :D [20:11] Care to do some training? [20:12] can't right now, bike ride in a few :) [20:12] what kind of training were you looking for? [20:12] The next step in the docs process. [20:12] But, if you are going to be riding I'll wait till you have time. [20:12] wait a few days before release, download the translations from LP, incorporate them, and repackage :) [20:13] that's what I'm refering to. I'll catch you when you have time. [20:13] * nixternal adds 'document documentation process' to his todo list [20:13] though, to be honest, i really want to streamline everything in the next cycle [20:13] kde did it upstream, and that's why are docs were broken. [20:14] Okay. we'll work on that... maybe I can learn by helping. [20:14] refreshing myself on xsl stylesheets last night was not fun. actually it was a little fun, but annoying at the same time [20:14] Seeing that you taught me doc work so well. [20:14] pfft, i didn't teach you a damn thing, you already knew the stuff coming in [20:15] Heh! i knew a little about Docbook but, that's about it. [20:15] You gave me the crash course on everything. [20:15] I know nothing about packaging [20:15] alrighty, gotta go scarf down a PB&J, a bannana, and a can of coke [20:15] and that packaging guide... forgive my bluntness but, I don't want to know all 9 ways to do things. [20:15] hehe [20:16] I want to learn one at a time not all 9 at once. [20:16] i will be back in probably 5 hours, maybe less depending on how long i can do 50 miles today [20:16] shooting for 3 hours, but that depends on how many red lights i hit [20:26] Okay... when/if you have time shoot me a text. [20:26] I'll be watching hockey all night. [22:20] debfx: Looks greaqt. Thanks again.