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ohsixanyone around to provide some advice? would ubuntu carry an "up" ported patch to restore functionality? the project has stonewalled on proxy support after removing it making transmission useless for a lot of people, but its far and away the best client otherwise https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/71360406:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 713604 in transmission (Ubuntu) ""Proxy" tab feature removed" [Wishlist,Won't fix]06:47
ohsixalso, can anyone give me pointers on how to get started preparing a patch to revert the changes & restore the functionality?07:02
ohsixhow can i get debuild to be louder about why a patch application failed, trying to prepare a revert for what i mentioned earlier07:56
ohsixthe patch works fine outside of debian/patches07:57
ohsixhm nm it says already07:58
ohsixhow are you supposed to prepare patches? will quilt rebase them? i've been preparing them against the unpatched source07:59
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infinityohsix: Generally, assuming there's a patch target, you can "debian/rule patch", then prepare your patch against the patched sources, and toss it in the end of the quilt series.08:18
infinityohsix: There are automated tools to do that sort of thing, but I never remember them. :P08:18
ohsixyea i was using quilt wrong08:18
ohsix<3 quilt, should have just read the documentation again instead of assuming i'd remember everything08:19
ohsixi'm supposed to edit debian/channgelog if i'm ultimately providing a debdiff, no?08:21
ohsixor whatever tool that does that for me08:21
ohsixguess the patch will do for now08:22
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mdkecould anyone help me with this error message  when running dput - I haven't had it before and I don't think I've changed anything09:06
mdkehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/595059/09:06
mdkethe package appears to have uploaded successfully actually, perhaps I don't need to worry about it?09:08
sladenohsix: yes, describe your change in debian/changelog and link to the '(LP: #NNNN)' bug report in the same patch09:20
ohsixsladen: ok thanks09:21
sladenohsix: if there isn't already and entry.  Add one above, bump the number and change the target 'natty' to 'UNRELEASED'09:24
ohsixhm you wouldn't know offhand why svn merge -c <rev> might look like it's including stuff other than what is in the rev you selected?09:27
ohsixwill it do that if theres no other revision to merge to? how can i get it to just act as if the rev never existed than papering over it to the next possible rev09:28
sladenohsix: is it including .svn/.bzr ?09:29
sladenohsix: or rebuilt translations?09:29
ohsixno nothing like that, i'm just trying to make a patch to be proposed for inclusion in a package, it restores something upstream removed, i'm not the maintainer of the package or anything; and i'm poking at svn to get it to give me the 3 reverts i need to make it happen09:30
ohsixsay, something in rev 4 is ending up in my revert of 3 and i can't tell why09:31
sladenohsix:  debuild -S  to build a source package with your changes09:33
sladenohsix: debdiff ../package_1.2.3.{4,5}.dsc | less -S      to get the .debdiff09:34
ohsixwell it was an svn question, svn diff -r 3:4 shows the right diff, but svn merge -c 4 seems to include 5, 6 and some other rev into the revert09:37
iulianmdke: It currently sits in the unapproved queue.  No need to upload it again.09:48
ohsixahh nm there's a conflict and it was bringing in extra versions to resolve it09:59
bambeeHello, anyone has noticed introspection errors with python-dbus (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/595083/) ? I get the same error with language-selector too10:23
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ohsixhow do you name versions in a ppa that you want to supersede the ubuntu version, but not "replace" it, like say 2.13-0ubuntu8 is the current archive version, i'm guessing calling it 2.13-0ubuntu9 is inappropriate11:50
arandohsix: use "~"11:50
ohsixok i did that already, thanks11:51
ohsixi was just asking because the ppa browser page still said there was a newer version with the extra version11:51
sladenohsix: 2.13-0ubuntu8~ppa111:53
arandohsix: The ordering is 8,  9~1, 9, afaik, I think it will also pick up proposed packages as "newer".11:53
ohsixdoes it need a number at the end? i named it 2.13-0ubuntu8~proxy11:53
arandWorks as well, however if I remeber correctly that will make it a version below ..ubuntu8, the ~ decreases...11:54
ohsixah11:55
ohsixso will i need to reupload when the 9 version comes around? or can i supersede them all11:56
arandWell you can use any version number, though it's recommended to allow superseeding by security updates..11:57
ohsixk11:57
arandohsix: If you use 8~proxy now I think that will be seen as a lower version than just 8.11:58
ohsixis this somewhere in the debian handbook11:58
arandI remember reading it somewhere, but can't find it atm...11:59
ohsixme too :\11:59
ohsixfound it12:00
ohsixFor example, the following parts are in sorted order from earliest to latest: ~~, ~~a, ~, the empty part, a.12:01
ohsixhow long typically is "awaiting publication" for freshly finished builds on ppas13:02
ohsixarand: it did make it an older version D:13:03
ohsixarand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/559074 D:13:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 559074 in Launchpad itself "Documentation for PPA package naming is inconsistent" [Low,Triaged]13:06
arandohsix: Matter of <15min from my exparience.13:07
ohsixok sorted this version business13:12
ohsixarand: thanks for your input13:12
mdkeiulian: thanks. I will ignore the error message then for now!13:14
ohsixis there a way to keep private notes for things on launchpad? like information i want to remember next time i update the ppa, without stashing it locally14:34
bloops1is there a way to test a build of g++ locally without installing?14:52
ohsixinstall it into a prefix other than /usr14:52
bloops1yes I did14:52
bloops1then when I call the g++ executable it complains about14:52
bloops1not being able to execute cc1plus14:53
bloops1there is a cc1plus binary in the same directory14:53
ohsixhow did you set the prefix, at configure time or at install time? it needs to know about its own prefix and you need to have it in your PATH14:53
bloops1wait, I didn't set the prefix.14:54
bloops1it installed in src_directory/host-x86.../gcc14:55
bloops1ok can set the prefix now or do I have to make again?14:55
ohsixthat's just where the target ended up, install phase puts it somewhere else; i haven't ran gcc out of tree, you might be able to execute it in place just by changing your PATH14:56
bloops1how do I change my PATH? can you point me to some docs?14:59
bloops1i don't think it's there at http://gcc.gnu.org/install/14:59
ohsixthe PATH is a list of directories your shell searches for things to run14:59
bloops1oh I see.15:00
bloops1ohsix: it worked after adding to PATH. but then it couldn't find the include files.15:20
bloops1ohsix: I gave up and did make install15:20
ohsixhow difficult is it wiring something up that needs to be ran at boot, before rw remounts; trying to figure out how i can cobble together an fsnotifyd type thing that osx has for time machine, in order to do something like it16:08
ohsixtheres a chicken & egg problem with changes if it's not done early16:08
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ailo_I'm trying to figure out what is causing gtk themes to not work on Ubuntu Studio Natty. I would file a bug report, but I'm not sure which package or packages are involved21:10
ailo_Where could I look for errors?21:10
ailo_The theming is only partly working21:11
ailo_Panels and desktop right-click menu falls back on the basic gtk theme21:12
ailo_While windows like nautilus will use the chose theme21:12
ailo_Also, Icons cannot be changed,21:13
ailo_This is on a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio Natty21:13
ailo_This apparently only happens on some systems21:15
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mr_pouitbah, "550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature" apparently means "waiting for approval"…22:41
lifelessno22:44
lifelessits a bug with the uploader22:44
lifelesswhen a sysadmin is here - about 1.5 hours - we'll get it kicked again22:44
lifelessand the root issue should fixed this week22:44
mr_pouitah, okay22:44
lifelessthe bug doesn't stop the package being handed off to the backend22:45
mr_pouitarchive admins, sorry if there are 12 thunar uploads in queue :s22:45
lifelessthat then correctly validates the upload22:45
iulianOuch.  There are only 9, not 12.22:46
iulianOr probably the other 3 are on their way.22:46
* iulian shrugs.22:46
mr_pouit :(22:47

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