[00:05] <IdleOne> why doesn't ubottu know everything?
[00:07] <bazhang> !everything`
 Sorry, I don't know anything about everything`
[00:54] <bazhang> installing a latest kernel on an unsupported derivate
[00:55] <bazhang> of late , it seems #ubuntu has become the uber -- ##linux channel where every distro user asks their question ('coz I get a fast answer')
[01:30] <bazhang> Tux19 is randomly PM'ing newcomers to the channel
[01:34] <bazhang> got him in PM
[01:34] <bazhang> he claims its to welcome people to the linux community for chat
[03:56] <edbian> bazhang: It's illegal to identify the sender of an email?
[03:57] <bazhang> edbian, he wants to do something illegal. lets move on
[03:57] <edbian> You're the op
[03:58] <bazhang> spamming is not a supported activity on #ubuntu nor on freenode
[04:00] <edbian> bazhang: I'd like to discuss it more if that's ok.  Out of curiosity (and for next time someone asks something like this)
[04:01] <bazhang> edbian, whats to discuss? he asked about an illegal activity
[04:01] <edbian> bazhang: But wouldn't it be good to show him how to identify who sent the email?
[04:01] <edbian> That's not illegal (it's the opposite)
[04:02] <bazhang> he clearly said he wanted to spam the spammer.  that part is.
[04:02] <edbian> So you write him off completely?
[04:03] <bazhang> I want to rob a bank; where can I get a car for it
[04:04] <edbian> I suppose if I showed you how to buy cars (even if you promised not to) it sort of would be aiding a criminal activity
[04:05] <bazhang> this is so cut and dried its not worth discussion. he asked how to do something illegal. end of story. not suppored in ubuntu namespace nor on freenode.
[04:05] <bazhang> no one was written off
[04:06] <edbian> I agree
[04:06] <edbian> Thanks for discussing it with me :)
[04:06] <edbian> (even if you are a bit blunt about it :) )
[04:10] <IdleOne> edbian:
[04:10] <edbian> IdleOne:
[04:11] <IdleOne> next time someone asks how to spam a spammer tell them to call their ISP and ask them, see if the ISP would be happy to hear about their servers being used to do something illegal
[04:11] <edbian> IdleOne: how do you know the spammer's ISP ?
[04:11] <bazhang> got chubcorp in PM now
[04:11] <IdleOne> simple as that. he asked how to commit a crime. We can't help with that.
[04:11] <edbian> bazhang: Is it getting hot and steamy in there?
[04:12] <edbian> IdleOne: Do you mean he should have called his own ISP (is email relayed through them?)
[04:12] <IdleOne> What he should do is mark it as spam and forget about it.
[04:13] <bazhang> he basically wanted to enact some vigilante style justice
[04:13] <edbian> IdleOne: alright
[04:13] <edbian> yeah
[04:13] <bazhang> not really a hard call at all.
[04:14] <IdleOne> nope
[04:14] <bazhang> how do I get the latest 2fast2furious movieZZZ!!!
[04:14] <IdleOne> Blockbuster will have them on the shelf in about  months or so
[04:14] <IdleOne> -!ot
[04:14] <IdleOne> -!illegal
[04:15] <IdleOne> 3 months*
[04:15] <edbian> I suppose the vigilante thing muddled it for me :)
[04:15] <IdleOne> I think we have a !warez also
[04:15] <edbian> I can relate to how he was feeling
[04:16] <bazhang> regardless
[04:16] <IdleOne> edbian: we have all been spammed
[04:16] <bazhang> its not the vigilante-revenge channel
[04:16] <edbian> Not trying to justify my actions.  Just talking
[04:16] <edbian> Is there a vigilante-revenge channel?
[04:16] <bazhang> edbian, you did nothing wrong
[04:16] <bazhang> thanks for joining to discuss/clarify
[04:16] <IdleOne> edbian: lol not on this network :P
[04:17] <edbian> :)
[04:18] <bazhang> it forwards to ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding
[04:18] <edbian> I checked it
[04:18] <edbian> haha
[04:27] <bazhang> tux19 is randomly PM'ing people again
[04:27] <edbian> he did it to me too
[04:27] <bazhang> he's been warned repeatedly NOT to do that.
[04:28] <bazhang> also the "does anyone need help"
[05:06] <bazhang> a number of users have complained about the private PM on join by tux19. I PM'd him yesterday and today and he feels its okay to solicit these people for his private chat
[05:06] <hypatia> probably time for a ban if he doesnt get that that's not appropriate
[05:07] <bazhang> he's had ample warning and two PM
[05:07] <hypatia> banninate
[05:07] <bazhang> and chubcorp (also in PM) sees absolutely nothing wrong with going on a spam attack against his spammers
[05:08] <bazhang> he's had several warnings and a /remove as well as a lengthy PM
[05:10] <rww> banninating the trollitude, banninating the users; baninating all the sillies in #ubuntu-offtopic!~~
[05:48] <bazhang> * [bot7425] (~bot7425@adsl-68-20-33-229.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net): bot7425   erict15 is running it in #ubuntu
[05:51] <IdleOne> is it a nuisance in any way?
[05:51] <bazhang> he's using it to send messages about #ubuntu to his game server
[05:53] <Flannel> It's also joined (and left) ten times in the past 45 minutes
[05:53] <IdleOne> hmm think he would need IRCC approval for that
[05:54] <bazhang> and he's said "test" each time
[05:54] <Flannel> not every time (I only see four or so tests)
[05:55] <bazhang> sorry, busy in PM with chubcorp , him, and tux19
[06:20] <bazhang> no explanation other than he needs to send messages to his game server about #ubuntu and "cuz it's the biggest channel"
[06:25] <Flannel> I imagine he changed the bot's nick to maklesh*
[06:25] <Flannel> but regardless, I'm forwarding it to fix-your-connection
[06:25] <bazhang> thanks Flannel
[13:01] <bazhang> bullshark is PMing people to join his channel ##blackhats
 bazhang >>> u get that PM?
[13:02] <bazhang> now complaining in PM not to PM him
[13:44] <jussi> bazhang: advertising non namespace channels is not acceptale, give hima warning, remove if necessary
[13:45] <bazhang> jussi, I did. he is back but stopped with the advertising.
[13:45] <jussi> bazhang: then all good - as long as it has really stopped :)
[21:57] <popey> @btlogin
[22:33] <fisch246> can i ask what i did?
[22:33] <fisch246> topyli: ^
[22:35] <popey> seems you were trolling in -ot and making up your own rules about trolling
[22:38] <LjL> fisch246: while we wait for topyli, i'd just like to inform you you're not banned, in case you didn't realize
[22:42] <topyli> fisch246: i removed you both, but neither of you are banned. your discussion was not beneficial for the friendly atmosphere we aim for, and you refused to change the tone
[22:42] <topyli> you're free to return, but take the free tip when you get them :)
[22:47] <topyli> fisch246: if there are no further issues, please don't idle here. return to #ubuntu-offtopic instead for example