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quentusrex[   13.408612] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready00:00
quentusrexis the only line that looks like it has an issue00:00
CrazyGirweird00:00
quentusrexhappens on multiple boxes00:00
quentusrexIm' just finally tired of dealing with it.00:01
quentusrexthe only commonality is that I have bridged networking configured for KVM00:01
CrazyGirgrep the source, see what' causes that error?00:01
CrazyGirdo all of the systems have the same nic?00:02
CrazyGirmmm00:02
quentusrexno, completely different nics00:02
CrazyGirI look to the source in these sorts of situations00:03
CrazyGirwhat are primary differences between the generic and server kernel flavors?00:10
onecrazycatdjbdns vs BIND vs ???:  Any suggestions for a home DNS server with under 30 hosts (some VMs)?00:21
CrazyGiropenbsd + built in BIND00:24
CrazyGirit'll take you 10 minutes to setup00:24
CrazyGirbut that's mee00:24
CrazyGir*moho00:24
cloakablednsmasq?00:31
cloakablepfsense?00:31
onecrazycatCrazyGir:  I want it to run on Ubuntu Server since that's what I'm comfortable with.00:38
CrazyGirI can't make a recommendation for you, sorry :(00:53
onecrazycatnp00:53
JanConecrazycat: if it's for a home network, dnsmasq might be all you need...01:02
onecrazycatJanC:  That's what I'm going with.01:12
drkmachinewould anyone have a few moments to help me troubleshoot a samba share?01:21
ralliasI just discovered my apache installation is being used for an http proxy. Can someone assist me in the process of preventing such?01:55
JanCrallias: disable mod_proxy ?01:56
ralliasI don't have it installed01:57
JanCit's part of every apache install...01:58
ralliaser wait... i do, but it was allready disabled.01:58
JanCwhy do you think apache is used as a proxy?01:59
rallias109.230.251.14 - - [20/Mar/2011:07:36:48 -0500] "GET http://119.160.244.96/?login=jokerincal232&passwd=testing HTTP/1.0" 200 455 "-" "-"02:00
ralliasnumerous lines similar to that02:00
ralliasalong with evidence of other exploits such as webdav and phpmyadmin02:04
rallias*attempted02:04
ChmEarlrallias, the byte count is 455.. likely exactly the size of your default page02:05
ChmEarlrallias, do wget http://localhost/   -> 455?02:06
rallias525 bytes02:07
ChmEarleveryone gets `vulnerability scans` everyday02:07
JanCthe size of an error page is likely to be different depending on the URL requested  ;)02:08
ChmEarlrallias, do you know how to telnet into your default page?02:09
JanCyou don't get the default page when there is an error02:09
ChmEarlits 20002:09
rallias400 bad request is 301 bytes02:10
JanCif you get a 200 response for a non-existing page, that's certainly wrong too02:10
ChmEarlgive me your IP/domain - I will telnet it02:10
JanCrallias: I suppose that IP address is not yours?02:11
ralliasumm... nope.02:11
JanCah, Yahoo02:11
ralliasYep02:12
ralliasI also have evidence that they're trying to get on IRC, returning a 405 error02:12
JanCseems like it originates from a server in Amsterdam02:14
ralliasI can extract all the IP addresses from it if you want02:15
ChmEarlrallias, I also get proxy attempts with 200 returned and they get my default page02:15
ralliasI'm just in the process of downloading the access.log files02:16
ChmEarlwelcome to internet hosting02:16
ChmEarlthe water is fine, jump in02:17
ralliasoh :/02:17
ralliasjust curious, but is it "legal" to have a colon in a filepath in unix?02:18
JanCrallias: only '/' and NULL are not allowed in a file name or directory name02:19
ralliasah.02:19
ralliasSo would it be possible to have a file path be /var//?isac02:19
JanCa file named "?isac" is certainly possible02:20
patdk-nbthose are always fun02:21
ralliasbut would that thing be a valid file path?02:21
patdk-nbsure02:21
ralliasi mean the /var//?isac02:21
JanCin most cases it would be valid, yes02:22
ralliasmost cases?02:23
JanCwell, some applications might complain about the double //02:23
JanCand depending on where you use it, you might need to escape the ?02:23
ralliasoh ok, so apache won't b&m?02:24
JanCb&m ?02:24
ralliasb and moan02:24
JanCI guess that depends on how apache is configured  ;)02:25
ralliasunder standard ubuntian configuration (with about 20 vhosts)?02:26
JanCI've never tested using such filenames  ;)02:26
patdk-nbapache normally changes invalid to _ I think02:26
patdk-nbanything it doesn't like atleast :)02:26
ralliasok02:27
JanCand most likely it won't serve anything outside its DocumentRoot(s)02:27
ralliaswow some people keep out of date dns...02:27
ralliasok02:27
ralliaswell... i've tried using .com/../ before...02:28
JanCwhen you use the default file serving stuff, that should not work  ;)02:29
ralliasok02:29
ralliasoh noes someone found my youtube rips folder...02:29
JanClol02:29
rallias173.169.175.37 - - [10/Apr/2011:10:07:37 -0500] "GET /I%20Just%20Had%20Sex%20(feat.%20Akon)_(1080p).mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 24820 "http://*****02:30
rallias:/02:30
JanCrallias: did you try using your server as a proxy from home?02:30
ralliasyeah02:30
ralliasit didn't work...02:30
ralliasi feel slightly... er... not as smart as possible.02:31
ralliasnow that i think about it... why do I have port 8080 open...02:33
ralliashow do I modify the php max run time thing?02:39
onecrazycatany good djbdns install guides available for 10.04 Lucid Server?02:47
patdk-nb_that's nuts :)02:49
ChmEarlsession.gc_maxlifetime ?02:51
onecrazycatdjbdns or dnsmasq:  FIGHT! (I really want opinions though…)02:51
JanConecrazycat: for a simple home network it's easy: dnsmasq02:53
onecrazycatJanC:  I'm still on the fence…  I don't want to limit myself in the future…  what is it that makes dnsmasq better for a simple network?02:54
patdk-nb_I thought all the djbdns stuff hadn't been updated for years02:55
patdk-nb_dnsmasq is simple, does everything a network needs :)02:55
onecrazycatpatdk-nb_:  From what I'm reading it doesn't support redundancy in DHCP (failover).02:55
patdk-nb_small networks generally don't have multible routers :)02:56
patdk-nb_therefor it would be pointless anyways02:56
onecrazycatpatdk-nb_: for me I want to install a lot of VMs, and even a small VPS at home…  I'm getting my learn on, and I want this solution to expand with my network (virtual hosts).  You still think dnsmasq will be cool for around 30-50 servers?02:57
patdk-nb_dnsmasq could handle that without an issue02:57
patdk-nb_all depending on your dns query rate02:57
patdk-nb_I would probably go with dhcpd and pdns-recursor, cause that is what I default to02:58
JanCit depends on what you want to do and what you want to integrate with03:00
JanCif you want to use a tool to manage your VMs that also configures DHCP/DNS, check what it supports...  (I doubt any such tools integrates with djbdns though)03:01
onecrazycatIt's a home network, so I'm rocking a little linksys router too… but i want it virtualized and customizable.03:04
onecrazycatIt's a learning experience endeavor :)03:05
JasonnI am trying to install openVPN from openvpn.net03:34
Jasonnand I get an error message when I try to start the server03:35
Jasonnhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/03:35
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CrazyGironecrazycat: my suggestion, if you have not yet decided, is to go with what is simple easy, get your learn on, and if you out-grow it in the future, switch05:23
CrazyGiryou'll learn quite a lot more that way, and the experience won't be lost05:24
CrazyGirbut more importantly, you won't be tripped up anylonger05:24
onecrazycatCrazyGir:  dnsmasq is installed and running :)05:24
onecrazycatCrazyGir: … and more importantly, working :)05:24
CrazyGirsweet05:27
CrazyGirthat's fantastic05:27
CrazyGiryea, there's a certain amount of time/energy I allow myself to mull over a decision like that05:27
CrazyGirafterwhich it's time to get to work05:27
CrazyGirso the server flavor doesn't ship with man by default?05:30
CrazyGiram I off my rocker?05:30
van7huhello05:32
van7huI am just getting started with ubuntu server05:33
van7huI installed it as LAMP, could I use it for a DNS server now?05:33
onecrazycat1van7hu: yes05:33
onecrazycat1van7hu:  here's a good rule to remember…  you can run as many daemons (services) as you want as long as you have the memory, hard drive space, and processor cycles.  That and open ports.  If say, port 80 is already used by Apache, nothing else can use that port.05:35
van7huyeah, thanks05:35
van7huI just asked to ask05:35
CrazyGirHAH: motd includes See "man sudo_root" for details.05:52
CrazyGirfoo@base:~$ man sudo_root >>> -bash: man: command not found05:52
CrazyGirthis is a vm built with vmbuilder05:53
CrazyGiram I missing something?05:53
CrazyGirsorry for the n00b question, but I'm from the BSD world where init/rc is a bit different.. how do you get a list of the daemons that start with each runlevel?06:17
rigvedCrazyGir: afaik, /etc/rcx.d/ has the list of scripts that run at run-level 'x'. those with 'S' are the ones that are started at that run-level.06:25
CrazyGiryea, I'm also seeing stuff about upstart, which is cool, but adds complexity to the question06:26
CrazyGir:P06:26
CrazyGirhere's a better question.. I've added ntpd via openntpd, assuming this hasn't been converted to upstart (not showing up in service --status-all), what should I do to ensure openntpd starts on boot and stays up?06:27
CrazyGiris it best to create your own upstart init config as described here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto06:31
rigvedCrazyGir: yes, that seems to be the proper one06:36
rigvedCrazyGir: see, the link also says that this process has been tested for the latest ubuntu version, 11.04. so, that is the way to go06:38
CrazyGiryea, I never know with ubuntu docs though, they're a bit all over the place06:38
CrazyGirmuch more complete than many other linux distros, but not really fully trustworthy either06:39
rigvedCrazyGir: that may be because sometimes, the docs are not updated for the newer ubuntu versions. but for docs that are, they are the way to go06:40
CrazyGirsure, just not what you are used to when coming from BSD ;)06:43
CrazyGirhttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ <--- this is a fantastic example of good quality, but this is not seen across the board06:44
CrazyGirwell.. sort of. some sections are missing :P06:45
lucky711x having trouble installing ubuntu server 10.10 on seagate cheetah ST39204LC SCSI hard drive using Adaptec 39160 PCI card on channel B, BIOS detects the drive, I did a low level format from the SCSI Utility, it was successful, then I verified the disk, and it passed, I have it set as ID0 and is being detect as so... BIOS sees it but Ubuntu partioner doesnt....hmm?07:12
CrazyGirare you stuck with adaptec  hardware lucky711x ?07:27
lucky711xyes I am CrazyGir07:28
CrazyGir:(07:32
CrazyGirare you _sure_ it is supported? (and well)07:32
CrazyGirlucky711x: ^^07:36
lucky711xyes CrazyGir I have had it detected and install before on the same eqpt07:36
lucky711xinstalled*07:36
lucky711xbut it wouldnt boot and I did a low level format then tried to install again and no luck now07:37
lucky711xCrazyGir, what scsi hardware do you prefer?07:43
lucky711xCrazyGir, its weird while im trying to install ubuntu in power cycles on and off07:45
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CrazyGirlucky711x: by 'supported' I mean to ask if you know this hardware model works well in linux/ubuntu08:09
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CrazyGirin short, adaptec makes crap hardware as I've seen (see the OpenBSD write ups from a decade ago if interested)08:10
CrazyGirI prefer scsi/raid controllers that are well documented for devs to build working drivers08:10
lucky711xYes is it support i forget what driver the kernel uses but it should work just fine08:10
CrazyGir'supported' and 'working well' are not the same08:11
CrazyGirespecially for 'open' hardware, note my sarcasm enclosing open08:11
CrazyGirsupposing it does work well, do you end up with anything in dmesg?08:12
CrazyGirand / or do you have another card you can confirm as working?08:12
CrazyGirand/or can you try an install to a std disk to confirm the rest of the hardware works08:12
lucky711xlol well i wish i could get a dmesg but i am still stuck on install08:13
lucky711xim trying a low level format again, but unfortunately i keep getting a stop08:14
lucky711xi am probably about to boot up my sata drive and run some tools on the drive08:14
CrazyGirtry other hardware.. in all the various combinations, to confirm what works and what doesn't08:14
lucky711xon the scsi drive*08:14
lucky711xwell i have been working on this for about 36 hours troubleshooting different things, jumpers, settings in SCSIselect utility, settings in bios, formats, you name it, ive probably tried it08:15
lucky711xCrazyGir, mind if i pm you?08:19
CrazyGirsure08:20
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uvirtbotNew bug: #763467 in keepalived (main) "SIOCGMIIREG errors on e1000e interface" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76346710:47
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CrazyGirany reason why ubuntu-server would be unable to figure out its hostname? even with a proper hostname set in /etc/hostname14:20
CrazyGirah.. a _ is not a valid character for a hostname :P14:23
Melonking_Can anyone give me a link to the changes in 11.04 server?15:45
MelonkingAnyone know the changes? Other than small ui things?15:52
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bsd123123quick question. If I have dovecot running pop3 plain mode. and I log in remotely, is my password sent totally in the clear17:11
patdk-nb_only if you broke docecot's config17:12
bsd123123so what encryption is used for dovcot pop3 plain17:13
patdk-nb_none, that is why it's called plain :)17:13
bsd123123so passwords are sent in the clear?17:14
patdk-nb_not unless you break the config :)17:14
bsd123123lol17:14
bsd123123I can connect to my server using plain and pull mail17:14
bsd123123I broke the config?17:14
patdk-nb_disable_plaintext_auth = yes, is default17:15
bsd123123ah17:15
patdk-nb_if so, dovecot won't allow you to connect17:15
patdk-nb_so unless you change that, no, you can't17:15
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bsd123123is there any security advantage between pop3 secure and imap secure17:39
bsd123123or are both same secure17:39
patdk-nb_heh17:41
patdk-nb_use ssl or tls17:41
patdk-nb_or both :)17:42
qman__they use the same methods to encrypt, if that's what you're asking17:42
qman__tls uses the standard port, ssl uses alternate ports17:42
patdk-nb_I think he was asking the difference between pop3 and imap, but heh, not enough info :)17:43
bsd123123i have it set up for pop3s. I configure my client for pop3 ssl/tls and it works, it sends a cert and connects. So good. but also in my client there is the option for 'normal password' and 'encrypted password'17:44
bsd123123when i choose normal I get the cert and connect fine17:44
qman__imap is a much better system IMO, especially with people getting email on their phones and several computers and whatnot17:44
bsd123123choose encrypted and it says - pop server doesnt support this17:45
qman__yeah, don't do that17:45
qman__that encryption is weaker than SSL and is deprecated17:45
bsd123123lol ok17:45
qman__it's how they used to do things before SSL/TLS existed17:45
bsd123123right sweet17:45
bsd123123I want to pick up roots email - for log reports and whatnot. I can't login directly as root. so in aliases, I add root: user and newaliases17:49
bsd123123user is not getting roots email though17:49
qman__there is actually a function built in when you set up the email the first time17:49
qman__who to deliver root's mail to17:49
bsd123123oh17:49
bsd123123I don't have to start again do I?17:50
qman__I'll see if I can find how to invoke it17:50
qman__ah, looks like it was just a frontend to /etc/aliases17:51
qman__so you did it right17:51
qman__might have to restart postfix17:52
qman__bsd123123, ^17:53
DigitalFluxHi Guys18:34
DigitalFluxI'm having problems with configuring the puppet client, modifying puppet.conf for the [client] section doesn't seem to be read by the puppet service when it is restart !18:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #763923 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76392321:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764004 in amavisd-new (main) "package amavisd-new-postfix 1:2.6.5-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76400423:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #764014 in net-snmp (main) "*** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/sbin/snmptrapd terminated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76401423:17
CrazyGirhello! I have a few VMs I created with vmbuilder and specified the server kernel release, main and universe repos, etc.. pretty stock stuff for a server, though some things like man seem to be missing.. does this seem correct? and if so, is there a list of differences between ubuntu std and server?23:38
CrazyGirdig/dns tools is another23:41

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