[01:48] canthus13: I think the lice VD is commonly referred to as crabs... [01:56] thafreak: :D [02:11] Hmm, is this 'too' gaudy? http://bioselement.com/ >.> [02:11] I think it's at least better then the default [02:12] Better then default [02:14] hah, [02:46] BiosElement: Gaudy? Nah... pretentious, though. [02:46] hah [02:47] bah. I totally mangled that spelling. [02:50] canthus13: Nice going. Decided to leave it default, design my own in time heh [02:50] Heh. [02:50] Though, I'm impressed with www.elegantthemes.com >.< [02:50] Decent price for some good themes heh [02:51] More fun to design my own though, Once I get the friggen typography down [02:51] * canthus13 is happy with Piano Black. :) [02:52] Hah [02:52] +1 canthus13 [03:22] Yay, www.bioselement.com header fixed, now I just need to finish up the background and I'll be content for now [03:28] BiosElement: Don't tell him, but I was PMing q66 and he told me his side of the story, would you mind if at some point I got yours? [04:04] Unit193: Ahh, if you like. The latest post on the site pretty much sums it though. [04:06] Unit193: http://cubecreate.com/2011/future-of-cubecreate/ [04:08] BiosElement: This I did see... [04:10] Unit193: Well if you have any questions, feel free to pm me or ask them here, but really I think it's just a matter of different goals and different values, too different to work. [18:01] Unit193: you here? [18:01] dmcglone: Yeah [18:01] I've been playing with Drupal :-) [18:01] I'm liking it better so far :-) [18:02] Theme install didn't sound so great... [18:02] * Unit193 read up #cubecreate [18:02] all I had to do was copy the theme to the themes dir. Only reason I couldn't install is because I don't have an ftp server configured :-/ [18:04] Eh, Joomla is manageable... [18:04] I still may try Drupal [18:04] you should try both to see how much different they are [18:05] drupal is so much easier to manage IMHO [18:05] lot more documentation from the community [18:05] * Unit193 needs to find a nice theme for it... [18:05] Like my Joomla one... [18:06] I was able to achieve a theme that I was trying to get with drupal just this morning, but with joomla it took me at least 4 days and I still didnt accomplish it :-/ [18:06] Theme was real easy with Joomla [18:07] All I had to do was goto Install theme and upload the zip [18:07] look here http://174.101.53.3/drupal [18:08] Not bad, but not my type :/ [18:08] Not mine either. I'm thinking of clients :-) [18:09] I don't have to think of clients :D [18:09] eventually in the future, I'm going to try and not write code, but instead just customize a CMS [18:09] 100% faster [18:11] also in drupal, when in administration mode, you directly edit the page without having to use a backend, that way you can see your changes on the fly without having to have an extra site open [18:12] I'm sold on Drupal :-) [18:16] http://drupal.org/project/blackpiano <--- might work [18:18] canthus13: Drupal theme http://design-meets-code.de/blackpiano/ [18:20] dmcglone: If you happen upon a theme that looks like my Joomla them, let me know? [18:21] Unit193: Cool. [18:24] dmcglone: What web server do you use? [18:45] I'm using apache [18:46] Thats a nice clean theme [18:52] It's also the theme we use for Wordpress [18:54] I just like the other theme better... [18:59] port it :-) [19:12] Hmmmm, do you know how to link to another section of the site in the Main Menu? (site.com/wordpress without using site.com) [19:13] in joomla? [19:14] Na, that was normal link style [19:14] Drupal wont take /wordpress or wordpress/ [19:15] If you want to remove *site.com* then you have to put wordpress in the root of the server [19:15] It's at site.com/wordpress [19:16] right, because wordpress isn't in the root, but if it was in the root then *site.com* would do the trick [19:16] you can't have a sub-domain without the domain :-/ [19:17] That may be the drupal killer right there... [19:17] it's that way everywhere, even on the WWW [19:17] No, I can link to /wordpress in normal html and Joomla [19:18] oh you want to link to is, I thought you wanted to make it the *root* of the site [19:19] create a link http://site.com/wordpress (or whatever the folder name is that wordpress is in) [19:20] Yes, I'm looking to link to that without using http://site.com (so I can use it internally) [19:21] if it's in a different folder on your server, you have to use http://..... [19:21] Joomla it is then... [19:22] is wordpress in your drupal folder? [19:22] No, I have /joomla /wordpress and /drupal [19:23] thats why the links will not work. [19:23] if you put /wordpress inside /drupal then a link /wordpress would work [19:24] The link works in Joomla... I don't really want to put wordpress in drupal just so I can get drupal to see it [19:25] Drupal is being dumb, this may fix it: http://www.widgetsandburritos.com/technical/programming/drupal-6-menu-relative-paths/ [19:28] that might work, or have you tried using ../ [19:30] Sweet idea, but no go... [19:30] That also didn't work in Drupal 7 [19:36] dang [19:56] dmcglone: I think I'm going to have to dump Drupal [20:01] Unit193: /whatever should work fine if it was at the root, but otherwise that's how the web works. [20:02] BiosElement: I know you know more about this then I do, but /wordpress should work even if I'm in /drupal [20:03] That's why when I'm in /joomla that link still works... [20:03] Unit193: Pretty sure it shouldn't. I suspect Joomla rewrites the URL. Drupal has modules to do that, but really is it that big a deal? Just write the URL. >.> [20:04] Also works in hand coded html. I need the site to work with the internal address and external (different ports) [20:06] ./wordpress should make it relative to the root as in example.com/wordpress, wordpress/ will make it relative so if you're in drupal/ it'd go to drupal/wordpress/ (I 'may' have mixed them up but it should work.) [20:07] Correct BiosElement :-) [20:07] Yay. Sometimes I get it backwords dmcglone >.< Too many hours staring at bloody urls [20:08] /wordpress ./wordpress ../wordpress ../../wordpress ../../../wordpress all failed (and so did wordpress wordpress/ just for the heck of it) [20:10] Unit like BiosElement said joomla is rewriting the URL to http://site.com/ [20:11] really there's not difference between /folder and http://site.com/folder.... The latter is better and safer anyway [20:11] dmcglone: +1 [20:12] dmcglone: No it's not, I checked using my dyndns address (router redirects the external port to 80) [20:12] Unit193: Not sure what that has to do with anything. >.> [20:12] Unit it's using mod_rewrite You can't see it in the URL [20:12] Open up your drupal settings.php [20:13] Look for drupal's base url setting, make sure it has the subfolder in it, as I recall that should fix it. [20:13] mod_rewrite rewrites URL's on the fly [20:14] Also Unit193, the Pathalogic module also rewrites URL's akin to Joomla: http://drupal.org/project/pathologic [20:15] excellent example BiosElement [20:15] Heh, Drupal makes things easier. I actually would be driven nuts if Joomla decided to rewrite my beautiful URL's >.> [20:16] BiosElement: check this out: http://174.101.53.3/drupal [20:17] Hah, Nice [20:17] So if that is true, mod_rewrite would have to be enabled? [20:17] I hacked up a javascript enabled template [20:18] If you have clean URL's, mod_rewrite is already enabled [20:18] Unit193: mod_rewrite can work on the web server without having to enable [20:18] As in the httpd.conf? [20:18] all depends on how you got your apache set [20:19] I use webmin to admin my server, so I can't remember where it's at [20:19] * Unit193 doesn't like CMS... [20:20] are you referring to webmin? [20:20] No, Joomla+Drupal... [20:21] Oh. any particular reason? [20:21] +wordpress [20:22] You hate them now, but next time you search for docs on the wiki, you're loving them :P [20:22] All this crap... and wordpress works with the internal IP, but not the external ip:port... [20:22] wordpress is a CMS also, just not on a scale as Drupal or Joomla :-p [20:23] BiosElement: I'll like them only if I don't have to configure them... [20:23] That'll never happen anywhere :-/ [20:23] And you can comment out mod_rewrite and it doesn't disable it [20:23] they can't read your mind [20:24] did you restart apache? [20:24] dmcglone: I'll go back to using html [20:24] Unit193: If you don't want to learn how to use them, then really you probably shouldn't be setting them up. >.< There is no such thing as a fire and forget CMS, you'll have to learn something with every new thing. [20:25] BiosElement: I was planning on learning them and keeping them up... just don't think I get it at all [20:25] Unit193: This is probably my 5th attempt working with Joomla and Drupal [20:26] the more I play around with it, the more I see how things work :-) [20:26] I just don't get how wordpress can work on internal but not external (when Joomla and Drupal do...) [20:27] I understand what you mean by "external" [20:28] Internal = 192.168.1.128 -- External = 24.125.65.86:port [20:30] then how does that make Joomla and Drupal the culprit when they are doing what they are intended to do [20:31] It doesn't, wordpress fails here... [20:31] s/wordpress/me [20:33] You got me lost :-/ [20:34] Issue 1. I didn't get Drupal to link to wordpress -- Issue 2. Wordpress can only be reached by internal IP (where Drupal and Joomla work with both) [20:34] Welp, enjoy your static html pages. :) [20:35] BiosElement: Looks like I fail with everything else ;? [20:36] I showed you how to link Joomla to Drupal, it works the same way with wordpress [20:38] let me install WP and see if I am able to use my IP to connect to it [20:38] Na, don't bother... [20:38] It's a misconfigured site root in the settings [20:38] That's pretty much the only thing it can be [20:38] thats what I'm thinking [20:40] Not that I don't think so; How exactly does that allow it to work on local network? [20:43] I'm looking into it now :-) [20:44] dmcglone: Don't bother, it's just me [20:46] I got it, it works here :-) [20:47] how do I get the blogroll to display on the index page? [20:48] I would tell you, but I can't seem to access it at all... [20:50] check this out: http://174.101.53.3/wordpress You will notice I added a menu item "joomla" [20:52] and it's a default install, so I suspect there's something going haywire with your server config [20:52] is your server port open? [20:53] Yeah, as I said, Drupal and joomla both work on the same server... [20:53] * Unit193 just fails hard... [20:54] Ok when you create the link in wordpress, are you using the IP or a domain name from dyndns or somewhere? [21:05] I made the link to joomla as /joomla [21:06] (Working link) [21:10] it's progress :-) [21:45] BiosElement: do you remember anything about creating pages in drupal? [21:46] Yes, [21:47] Ask away ^_^ [21:47] how come when I create a page, I can't add images, it'll only add images if I create an article [21:54] I'm gonna go eat [21:57] dmcglone: It's CCK field related [21:57] You need to edit the page node type and add an image field [22:07] k I'll try that [22:11] Hmmm I can't find a way to edit the page node type :-/ [22:11] It's in structure [22:12] You'll also need to make sure the cck module is enabled, I forget exactly what it's called [22:12] It's default tho [22:16] Got it :-) [23:11] Drupal is dang confusing now [23:12] why do they have to make it so hard to create a page and stick content on it? [23:18] dmcglone: It isn't, they make it so darn simple to have a custom CMS. If all you want are pages and pictures, go with wordpress [23:55] hehehe wordpress???? [23:55] ;-) [23:56] What about it? >.< [23:59] my problem is I can't get more than 1 image on a page. thats what is frustrating me