[00:04] <ChinnoDog> power_outage--
[00:21] <ChinnoDog> uh oh. Power is back but there might have been a casualty
[00:37] <InHisName> ChinnoDog is a casualty ?
[00:38] <ChinnoDog> 200gb hard disk in an enclosure isn't getting recognized
[00:38] <ChinnoDog> I think it might be pooched
[00:38] <InHisName> maybe it chose to be stealthed
[00:42] <ChinnoDog> Yea, its goose is cooked.
[00:42] <ChinnoDog> It isn't one I had backed up either.  It was full of... all sorts of stuff
[00:44] <InHisName> Could always practice the many salvage techniques floating around the 'tubes'.
[00:45] <ChinnoDog> Probably not worth it
[00:45] <ChinnoDog> It was oh so important, I hadn't accessed it in months
[00:47] <ChinnoDog> It died like most Western Digitals in my experience. One day it just decided it isn't going to work anymore
[00:47] <ChinnoDog> No warning or anything
[00:48] <ChinnoDog> If it behaves like other WDs it could also magically come back to life
[00:49] <ChinnoDog> and then magically die again shortly thereafter
[00:50] <ChinnoDog> When it comes back to life it will be a zombie. I will have to download its brains before it dies again.
[01:03] <Irishmanluke> that was rather poetic ChinnoDog
[01:09] <InHisName> Where were you, Irishmanluke ?
[01:15] <Irishmanluke> I was in limbo
[01:15] <Irishmanluke> but now I've returned home with all the money spent
[01:16] <ChinnoDog> uh oh. What did you blow your savings on?
[01:16] <Irishmanluke> bible reference
[01:16] <Irishmanluke> I didn't actually do that
[01:17] <ChinnoDog> k...
[01:17] <Irishmanluke> I was acting like the prodigal son
[01:17] <Irishmanluke> making an analogy that this channel is my home
[01:18] <Irishmanluke> but I guess noones in the mood for killing the fatted calf
[01:19] <Irishmanluke> ...
[01:20] <Irishmanluke> actually I'm on co-op now so I'm making money
[01:20] <Irishmanluke> @monologue
[01:20] <PennBot> Irishmanluke: Your current monologue is at least 6 lines long.
[01:20] <Irishmanluke> thank you PennBot
[01:21] <Irishmanluke> so what's new?
[01:22] <ChinnoDog> My frozen hard drive is completely inaccessible
[01:22] <Irishmanluke> uh-oh
[01:22] <Irishmanluke> is it bricked
[01:24] <ChinnoDog> IT WORKS
[01:24] <ChinnoDog> copying files
[01:24] <ChinnoDog> There is much condensation on the outside of the drive
[01:24] <ChinnoDog> zombie_hard_drive_recovery++
[01:26] <Irishmanluke> I'll take that as a no
[01:26] <ChinnoDog> It will die again when it warms up, or when it feels like it
[01:29] <ChinnoDog> yup, it died again
[01:29] <ChinnoDog> Its going to have to go back into the freezer
[01:29] <InHisName> ChinnoDog did you freezer the drive to fix it ?
[01:29] <ChinnoDog> yes, for a few minutes
[01:29] <InHisName> how many minutes did on freezing last ?
[01:30] <ChinnoDog> dead now. No more disk activity, transfer is stuck
[01:30] <InHisName> s/on/one/
[01:30] <ChinnoDog> Based on the time stamps, 5
[01:31] <InHisName> seconds, thats all ?     I need to copy 30 gigs from a drive.
[01:31] <InHisName> I can't do that in 5 seconds.
[01:32] <ChinnoDog> I froze the drive and it worked for 5 minutes
[01:32] <ChinnoDog> Its in the freezer again. Now that I know it works the next time I am going to insulate it by wrapping it in a towel or putting it in an oven mitt or something
[01:32] <InHisName> Maybe leave it in the freezer with long wires and add fan in freezer to keep it cooler........
[01:32] <ChinnoDog> lol
[01:33] <ChinnoDog> I'll consider operating the drive from inside the freezer if I can't get it to run long enough for me to pick through the file system
[01:33] <ChinnoDog> Or maybe I could put it into a bucket of ice
[01:33] <ChinnoDog> That would be a lot easier
[01:33] <ChinnoDog> ice pack it
[01:34] <ChinnoDog> Have to be careful of condensation and melting ice. Don't want to short it out
[01:34] <InHisName> 5 dozen cans of freeze spray.
[01:34] <ChinnoDog> That could crack the chips on the controller board
[01:34] <ChinnoDog> And then I'd be really up a creek
[01:35] <InHisName> awww I was gonna add one big bowl of liquid nitrogen but you spoiled it.
[01:36] <ChinnoDog> poor hard drive
[02:47] <InHisName> anyone else with soggy basements yet ?
[03:00] <ChinnoDog> copying files from frozen drive again
[03:01] <ChinnoDog> Most of the stuff on the drive I don't care about, but there are a few GB I do
[03:08] <ChinnoDog> Yup, drive death again
[03:11] <ChinnoDog> It is trash now.
[03:11] <ChinnoDog> largest drive that has ever died on me
[03:54] <InHisName> how big was it, ChinnoDog
[03:57] <ChinnoDog> 200GB
[04:01] <InHisName> That would take a while if you needed to copy it ALL.
[04:02] <ChinnoDog> Yes, it would. A lot of it was old installers and drivers though
[04:02] <ChinnoDog> I just rescued 11gb from it
[04:05] <InHisName> Must feel pretty good if you got all you wanted to rescue.
[04:06] <ChinnoDog> I guess so. I miss my hdd. :-( I bought it for $50 from Dell because they made a price mistake. It should have been $250 at the time.
[04:06] <InHisName> ucenter has 2TB for $59 right now, I think still going.
[04:07] <ChinnoDog> Me and all of my coworkers who of course also ordered it almost didn't get it. Dell said they made a mistake and wouldn't ship, but then under pressure from all the people that ordered it changed their minds and sent it anyway
[04:07] <ChinnoDog> ooh, nice
[04:07] <ChinnoDog> I need to get there.
[04:07] <InHisName> lucky dog
[04:08] <InHisName> I think its 5400 rpm but still rated 3ghz  or gbps
[04:08] <waltman> Speaking of microcenter, I just got something in the mail from them for a free 4gb thumbdrive.
[04:08] <ChinnoDog> Now that I am using online backup I feel like there is no limit to how much storage I should put in my computer. lol
[04:08] <ChinnoDog> Gotta get me some drives and filler up
[04:08] <waltman> ChinnoDog: where are you backing up to?
[04:09] <ChinnoDog> CrashPlan
[04:09] <ChinnoDog> Up to 10 PCs, unlimited storage
[04:09] <ChinnoDog> Nice backup client too
[04:10] <ChinnoDog> Has nice controls for system resource utlization
[04:10] <InHisName> waltman:  was that in the monthly flyer or special mailing ?
[04:10] <waltman> the latter
[04:11] <InHisName> bummer, I did not get anything beyond a flyer.
[04:11] <waltman> you can get either a flashdrive or an sdram
[04:11] <waltman> clearly they like me more!
[04:11] <ChinnoDog> I'm not getting enough ucenter love
[04:11] <InHisName> did you spend lotta $$ at ucenter, waltman ?
[04:12] <waltman> Not particularly
[04:12] <InHisName> kinda like a thank you for being a big spender, come back and spend more .
[04:12] <waltman> let me check the mailing...
[04:13] <InHisName> I've spent less than $10 in last 12 months.
[04:14] <waltman> oh, I've spent more than that :)
[04:14] <waltman> I think I bought a 1 tb hd from them in the past 12 months
[04:14] <waltman> and some ram
[04:15] <waltman> hmm, I was just there. what did I get?
[04:15] <InHisName> an 8 core cpu ?
[04:15] <waltman> anyhow, this is for a free 4gb flash drive or sdhc card
[04:16] <ChinnoDog> 8 core? Do those exist?  I'm not up on the latest CPUs
[04:17] <InHisName> if they do, it would be nice to have a pair running in a dual board, HAH !
[04:17] <ChinnoDog> Thats right, because that would be a lot of cores
[04:17] <waltman> oh, and it came with 2 more pass-to-a-friend coupons with the same deal
[04:17] <InHisName> me me
[04:19] <InHisName> I might be passing by them on blue route tomorrow afternoon.
[04:20] <jedijf> waltman: they must be making rounds, i was there a month ago and people had those free flash drive thingy's..i asked why i didn't get one, they said they are random
[04:20] <jedijf> so yoy won this weekend
[04:20] <waltman> yay
[04:21] <ChinnoDog> I need a ticket for the ucenter lottery
[04:22] <InHisName> according to waltman, keep checking your mailbox (snail variety)
[07:06] <anduril> getting way to old for 12hr shifts ugh
[08:30] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[12:11] <JonathanD> Morning.
[13:00] <InHisName> hi there Baconizer
[13:00] <InHisName> Goooooooddddd Morrrrrning  JonathanD
[13:01] <InHisName> jedijf: have you left Giant yet or fell asleep at 3 and are still sleeping ?
[13:23] <jedijf> InHisName: just gald you got that drive fir=gured out
[13:23] <jedijf> figured
[13:23] <jedijf> glad
[13:23] <jedijf> coffee
[13:36] <InHisName> Not figured out.  Just got it to work once, not sure how I did that though but it is installed.
[13:37] <InHisName> I chose DNS & SSH what to do now  ?   Prove they're working ?  Then add lamp etc ?
[13:41] <jedijf> InHisName: sudo tasksel ...then pick lamp, then you can play php and stuff
[13:42] <InHisName> jedijf: shouldn't I prove the fist installs before stuffing in more ?
[13:49] <jedijf> just ssh in
[13:53] <InHisName> Hey some in another chat used  "[✓] choose this line item."       How do I type those in and NOT copy/paste in ?
[13:54] <InHisName> what about the DNS I installed ?
[13:56] <jedijf> InHisName: http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/
[13:56] <PennBot> Title: How to Setup a DNS Server in Ubuntu » Ulyssesonline (at ulyssesonline.com)
[13:57] <InHisName> thanks
[13:57] <jedijf> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[13:57] <PennBot> Title: Ubuntu Server Guide (at help.ubuntu.com)
[13:58] <InHisName> New place to mount PC parts . . . .   http://www.imgur.com/Y6Him&KGuevl&ox4sV&pzTGv&Pai7h&hRHyi&Pk1eZ
[13:58] <PennBot> Title: imgur: the simple image sharer (at www.imgur.com)
[15:49] <ChinnoDog> anduril: how old is too old?
[15:50] <anduril> 26 :)
[15:51] <ChinnoDog> haha. That is too old?
[15:51] <anduril> yes
[16:08] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: is that too old for 12hr shifts?
[16:29] <jedijf> i am 21 years too old then
[16:29] <jedijf> 5 days a week
[17:16] <Irishmanluke> jedijf: you have 12 hour shifts 5 days a week?
[17:36] <ChinnoDog> flashplugin installer is broken on my system. I can't kill -9 it either
[17:37] <ChinnoDog> How can a process be unkillable with kill -9?
[17:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> did you sudo kill -9 it?
[17:37] <ChinnoDog> yes
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> no change
[17:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> out of pure curiosity, did you try killing with a SEGV signal?
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> idk how to do that
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> first I tried sudo kill
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> then sudo kill -9
[17:38] <ChinnoDog> That is all I did
[17:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> kill -11 is segv
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> no change
[17:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol...?
[17:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> did something else spawn the flashplugin-installer ?
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> That doesn't help. haha
[17:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> maybe dpkg?
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> yes. the update manager
[17:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> did you try killing that?
[17:40] <ChinnoDog> yes
[17:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> same issue?
[17:40] <ChinnoDog> The command line I am killing is dpkg
[17:40] <ChinnoDog> h/o, I'll paste it
[17:40] <ChinnoDog> 9816 pts/4    Ds+    0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-installer_10.2.159.1ubuntu0.10.10.1_amd64.deb
[17:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> --> sudo kill -9 dpkg
[17:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> might break things though
[17:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> so its up to you whether you want to stop it :P
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> It says "ERROR: garbage process ID "dpkg"."
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> Do you mean killall?
[17:42] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah yeah, sorry
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> That has no effect.
[17:42] <TheEvilPhoenix> wow, its an evil process :P
[17:42] <ChinnoDog> It is an automatic update. :-(
[17:43] <ChinnoDog> Time to reboot?
[17:43] <ChinnoDog> I'm not supposed to have to reboot!
[17:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> yeah, probly.  command line: sudo shutdown -h now
[17:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> i've had rogue updates like that, i just did shutdown -h (full shutdown)
[17:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> rebooted, then it miraculously worked :/
[17:44] <ChinnoDog> If pleia2 was here she would try to talk me out of it
[17:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[17:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> ooh, i just got my hands on a POS dell box >.>
[17:44] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: any more suggestions before I give up and reboot?
[17:46] <ChinnoDog> I killed update manager now but the flash plugin installer is still borked
[17:47]  * ChinnoDog slaps Ubuntu around a bit with a large troute
[17:47] <ChinnoDog> trout
[17:54] <InHisName> @later tell SamuraiAlba flowers for the bacon lover in you
[17:54] <PennBot> InHisName: The operation succeeded.
[17:55] <ChinnoDog> geez. Everything is broken today. lol
[17:55] <ChinnoDog> My file system is also corrupt apparently
[17:57] <ChinnoDog> too bad I used btrfs
[17:57] <InHisName> like a bull in china shop looking for china dog to break
[18:03] <ChinnoDog> flashplugin worked fine this time, so idk
[18:03]  * ChinnoDog shrugs
[18:29] <InHisName> I logged into ssh:      Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections.    Please check your BIOS settings, or for more information, run:                             /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose
[18:29] <InHisName> This CPU is family 15, model 4, and has NX capabilities but is unable to use these protective features because the BIOS is configured to disable the capability.  Please enable this in your BIOS.  For more details, see:         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/CPUFeatures
[18:29] <PennBot> Title: Security/CPUFeatures - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[18:30] <ChinnoDog> So enable it
[18:34] <InHisName> I'm still reading but not sure what to enable yet.
[18:35] <InHisName> I guess its called "execute disable bit" and needs to be enabled.
[18:49] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: is there a parent process (pstree is a good command for finding them)
[18:49] <pleia2> if there is a parent process you can usually kill *that* and it'll get rid of your D process
[18:50] <pleia2> can't kill it directly though, it's in uninterruptable sleep
[18:51] <pleia2> and does btrfs have an fsck tool yet? I wouldn't use it until it does, it's still a bit scary :)
[18:52] <pleia2> (I still cling to ext3!)
[18:54] <InHisName> found it and enabled it.
[18:55] <anduril> dont know why ssh would require the NX capability
[18:56] <InHisName> grub has a last entry:  Window Recovery Environment (loader)      what does that do ?
[18:57] <anduril> thats a partition created by Vista/win7 as an emergency repair sector. allows you to load startup repair, system restore, etc.
[19:10] <InHisName> Then I need to add an option to boot win2008 that is missing.   Is there a clue in repair partition that might help reconstruct a boot entry for Win2008 ?
[19:12] <anduril> just have to create the grub entry for it. you dont want to mess with the repair partition for Win2k8 cause that'll blow grub away
[19:13] <InHisName> I don't want to run or start that repair section ?   Should I remove entry from grub then?
[19:14] <anduril> well you can run it but if you attempt to use it to repair windows it'll break grub :-p
[19:17] <InHisName> why did grub pick up this 'dangerous' thing but ignore the bootable thing most want included ?  seems no better'n windows that only want to boot itself and nothing else.
[19:18] <anduril> i dunno I dont think grub always doesnt an intelligent search of partitions. so maybe it just grabbed the first one that looked like windows
[19:19] <InHisName> probably the best guess]
[19:20] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: the update manager was the parent, but I have since rebooted so I can't investigate further. Also, I know btrfs doesn't have a working fsck yet, but it seemed generally stable. I'll tar it off the drive and reformat and tar it back on if it gets ugly.
[19:21] <pleia2> hehe "seemed generally stable"
[19:21] <ChinnoDog> stable enough with backups!
[19:21] <InHisName> what does btrfs stand for ?
[19:21] <ChinnoDog> b tree fs
[19:21] <ChinnoDog> Except they aren't really b-trees anymore
[19:22] <InHisName> uses b-tree for storage data base style ?
[19:22] <anduril> btrfs = better try reiser filesystem silly
[19:22] <ChinnoDog> Thats the idea
[19:23] <pleia2> I like the idea, but it doesn't have an official stable release yet and lvm fills the gap
[19:23] <InHisName> oh sounds better
[19:23] <pleia2> heh, our last reiser system at work finally went corrupt last month (they all eventually do, I think this one had been around 8 years)
[19:23] <pleia2> we don't use it anymore :)
[19:23] <InHisName> I have lvm in os/2 and my main ubuntu
[19:24] <pleia2> lvm does disk pooling and snapshots, which are two of the main btrfs features that people love
[19:24] <pleia2> btrfs makes me want butterfish sushi
[19:28] <JonathanD> hah :)
[20:43] <andrew> morning
[20:45] <ChinnoDog> andrew: did you just wake up?
[20:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[20:45] <andrew> not just, but less than 2 hours ago
[20:46] <ChinnoDog> Up all night partying?
[20:47] <andrew> delt with cub scouts all morning/early afternoon, then was at a roller rink from 4 to 11ish, helping run an event
[20:51] <InHisName> so how was the roller derby, andrew ?
[21:00] <andrew> I
[21:01] <andrew> I've seen them practice a few times over the past week or so, so I knew what to expect. But it was a good match, dispite the score being 55-111 at the end
[21:21] <JonathanD> Howdy folks
[22:02] <InHisName> howdy JonathanD andrew ChinnoDog and others
[22:03] <JonathanD> hello
[22:08] <andrew> hi