[00:00] <Nick_Meister> hi guys i watch tv almost constantly on one of the two monitors i have so i would like some way to utilize workspaces on the other monitor but still keep the original workspace on the one with the video
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> so lock the workspace switching on one of the monitors
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> how would i do that?
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> i have nvidia gforce
[00:01] <nickleboyblue> zvacet: seems promising... downloading it right now.
[00:01] <pfifo> Khisanth, hard to say for sure, the toolchain needs special handling compared to normal packages
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, look into Separate X Sessions vs Twinview... good luck.
[00:02] <sylon> :/
[00:02] <Khisanth> you might want synergy as well
[00:02] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, but wont that meen tha i will no longer be able to drag windows between screens?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, correct
[00:03] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, is there any way to enable that functionality?
[00:03] <richthegeek> sup all
[00:04] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, and does unity compositing works with that and still be hardware accelerated?"
[00:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> omg i need to use 9.1 to boot live cd to reinstall grub...will this revert my 10.4 system?
[00:04] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, i wouldn't know (re Unity)
[00:04] <ny> hi
[00:04] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, that shouldn't be a problem
[00:04] <ny> my webcam is up side down
[00:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> phewww
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> any one can help?
[00:05] <edbian> ny: turn it over
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> over?
[00:05] <onecrazycat> I have a home network and I want to be able to access my devices by hostname, not IP.  I want a centralized list of hostnames that I can add to whenever I add a server.  Is DNS the best choice here?
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> no, i cant flip it
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> its a notebook camera
[00:05] <KINGOFSWORDS> can i move files over from ubuntu partiton or use them?
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> cant be fliped through hardware
[00:06] <edbian> onecrazycat: The alternative would be hand editing the config file on every machine in your network.
[00:06] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you can access ntfs filesystems from linux
[00:06] <Heylookitsbret> i followed this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1183420 and still no luck. whats the deal? bridge works in win7?
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS> how about other way around?
[00:06] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I don't want to do that.  Editing /etc/hosts seems tedious, and it seems inefficient.
[00:06] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you would need the ext2/3 drivers I mentioned
[00:07] <edbian> onecrazycat: It is tedious and inefficient.  DNS is the best approach IMO.
[00:07] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok...do i nstall them in windows?
[00:07] <zvacet>  sylon: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  C81A926CB056DD89
[00:07] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I also constantly see tutorials that say, "type your domain name in".  If I'm home, I don't HAVE a domain name.  Can I create one?
[00:07] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone 10.10 could not install, 9.04 works great
[00:08] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I know this is connected, and it's another motive for setting up a home DNS server.  I just want to make sure I approach it in the correct way.
[00:08] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes, youll have to search sourceforge's website for ext2fsd project
[00:08] <THE_GFR|WORK> screw 10.10
[00:08] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok great thx
[00:08] <edbian> onecrazycat: You can set up a local DNS server and have domain names that are whatever you want in your home for free.  If you want a domain name that is reachable from anywhere on the Internet you have to buy it from a website like godaddy.com
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> so for two seperate x screens does compositing work?
[00:08] <onecrazycat> If I already own a domain name for my website, can I use this?
[00:08] <edbian> onecrazycat: Yes
[00:09] <zvacet> THE_GFR|WORK: did you tried 10.4 because 9.04 is not supported any more
[00:09] <edbian> onecrazycat: If you own 'example.com' you can have hello.example.com point at a specific machine
[00:09] <THE_GFR|WORK> zvacet: no but I suspect it might work, I'll try that next
[00:09] <aaron_wayne> http://imagebin.org/148578
[00:09] <Khisanth> assuming the machine has a routable address :)
[00:09] <aaron_wayne> how do i remove it?
[00:10] <phoenixsampras> MIC doesnt WORK!!!
[00:10] <phoenixsampras> why?? Bug?
[00:10] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Does it have to be entered in anywhere specific to "set" it, or do I just start using it.  It just seems weird to me.  I have a web host out on the internet, and I have my own internal network with dynamic IP.  So something tells me I can't do this unless I use DynDNS or an equivalent service to an extent.  As you can see, I know bits and peices, but I don't feel like I've got the big picture grasped fully.
[00:10] <sylon> zvacet: thanks buddy
[00:11] <onecrazycat> edbian:  As for DNS servers, what do you think is the best option right now?  I see some sites mention bind, others mention djbdns, etc...
[00:11] <zvacet> sylon: np  :)
[00:11] <sylon> anyone know when chrome/firefox will support ati driver for GPU rendering?
[00:11] <optidude> hey all
[00:11] <edbian> onecrazycat: You have to tell the service you bought the domain name from to point 'something.example.com' at your public facing IP.  Because that IP is dynamic you can you dynDNS (I'm not sure about those details).  But usually these dynamic IPs rarely change in practice
[00:11] <edbian> onecrazycat: I like bind
[00:12] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: did you tried to remove it with synaptic
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> wins 7 installed now do i just boot to livecd and install grub?
[00:13] <edbian> onecrazycat: There should also be a way to tell your domain provider 'DNS requests for X.example.com go here'  and point that at your DNS server.  Does this public IP go to a router or?
[00:13] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[00:13] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i just looked in synatpic and it shows that it is not installed, thats all i can do is install, but it still shows up on the drive, should i try to reinstall uninstall?
[00:15] <aauthor> kings: Do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[00:15] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: I don´t understand what do you meant it shows in drive
[00:15] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes you can reinstall grub via the LiveCD
[00:15] <aaron_wayne> well, if i apt-cache search or search for files it still shows up on the computer
[00:16] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, well, if i apt-cache search or search for files it still shows up on the computer
[00:16] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[00:16] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Awesome.  Thank you for your insight.
[00:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh aauthor and now just installed wins7
[00:16] <edbian> onecrazycat: no problem
[00:16] <zvacet> aaron_wayne : try with apt-cach show <packagename>
[00:17] <zvacet> KINGOFSWORDS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[00:17] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: those two files aren't from the fretsonfire packages
[00:17] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, ummm, that pulls up a bunch stuff
[00:17] <onecrazycat> edbian:  one last question…  How do I keep my BIND9 server from treading on my router built in DNS?
[00:17] <onecrazycat> edbian: or is this not a real issue?
[00:18] <KINGOFSWORDS> thx zvacet...i have 10.04 installed but am using 9.1livecd which tutorial would i follow...10.04 or 9.1?
[00:18] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594992/
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: The machines will use whatever DNS you tell them to. If you point them at the server they will use that  if you leave them pointed at the router they will use that.
[00:18] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:18] <onecrazycat> makes sense.
[00:18] <onecrazycat> edbian:  You're a gentle(wo)man and a scholar.
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: Both should work just fine so it really doesn't matter which one you use.
[00:18] <onecrazycat> :)
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: haha (man) and thank you
[00:18] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah its ok theyre both grub2
[00:19] <zvacet> KINGOFSWORDS: 9.10 use grub2 so you can do it with thatt version of ubuntu
[00:19] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Oh yeah, that's right, this is #ubuntu, there are no women here.  How could i have forgotten such a fundamental rule?
[00:19] <edbian> hahaa
[00:19] <edbian> I saw a women once!
[00:19] <Cyberkilla> Well done that man.
[00:19] <elvis> hahah
[00:19] <bastidrazor> that was in Second Life though.. it doesn't count
[00:19] <onecrazycat> edbian: Me too.  She's sitting across the room from me trying to figure out how to use Wordpress.  I call her my "wife".
[00:20] <zvacet> aaron_wayne : sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq fretsonfire
[00:20] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I digress.  Thanks again.
[00:20] <edbian> no problem
[00:20] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Do you know what to do then?
[00:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> im reading the link u gave me...i know its grub 2
[00:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> ill follow that
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594996/
[00:23] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: OK, good luck! :D
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594996/
[00:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> ty
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i tried installing through the software center again and uninstall but it still leaves the same things behind
[00:26] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: really don´t know
[00:27] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, thats cool, i think i am going to try to install again an go to synaptic to see if it will let me remove those items first before i uninstall completely
[00:27] <_Neytiri_> i got a issue and i odnt know how i caused it, my second monitor all of a sudden zoomed in and now when ever i move the muse it moves the position of hte screen
[00:27] <elvis> hello
[00:27] <bruenig> !hello | elvis
[00:28] <bruenig> boo
[00:28] <pfifo> elvis, change your quit message to "Left the building"
[00:28] <root> hello i  have a question
[00:28] <root> i an new
[00:28] <edbian> root: What is your question?
[00:28] <pfifo> hi root
[00:28] <Guest151> and i wana know how can i install kerenl on backtrack
[00:28] <edbian> Guest151: this is Ubuntu support not backtrack
[00:29] <Guest151> ahhh  ok sorrz
[00:29] <jordan_> im unable to connect to a datebase for work through kubuntu 10.10 anyone wanna help
[00:29] <Heylookitsbret> can anybody help with a network bridge? i have searched and all point to the same thing, but im not getting the same results.
[00:29] <zvacet> !ask | root
[00:29] <jordan_> i dont wanna have to installed windows on this laptop
[00:30] <Nick_Meister> does 11.04 right now use wayland instead of x11?
[00:30] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, how do i log in as root in the gui?
[00:30] <edbian> Nick_Meister: no it does not
[00:31] <Nick_Meister> edbian, then whas up with all the articles saying it will :S
[00:31] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: what are you trying to do?
[00:31] <jordan_> heres the login http://www.milanmedical.com/omhc/omhc.html
[00:31] <edbian> Nick_Meister: link please?  (perhaps I'm wrong)
[00:31] <aaron_wayne> well, i was going to try to go to the file location and delete them
[00:31] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://chicagrafo.blogspot.com/2011/01/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-and-wayland.html
[00:31] <jordan_> havnt been able to figure it out
[00:32] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, well, i was going to try to go to the file location and delete them
[00:32] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1872536
[00:32] <jordan_> i maybe over looking something
[00:32] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2343452
[00:32] <MaRk-I> Nick_Meister: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <pfifo> jordan_, it seems to require java
[00:32] <jordan_> i have java
[00:32] <jordan_> ;)
[00:32] <apocaliptica> some can help   me
[00:32] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus after that you can browser filesystem be carefull
[00:33] <edbian> Nick_Meister: Looks like you're right :)
[00:33] <elementz> i need some help: how do is turn of the display of icons on my desktop in gnome. after a reboot, i suddenly have my homefolder display on my desktop
[00:33] <zvacet> *browse
[00:33] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: why exactly are you trying to remove those two files?
[00:33] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, yeah, no doubt, or could you tell me, is there a way to get into the /usr dir in the terminal
[00:33] <Nick_Meister> edbian, so what do i do about 3d acceleration on nvidia :(
[00:33] <pfifo> jordan_, perhaps you should try installing the official sun java if your using openjdk
[00:33] <edbian> open a terminal.  type gconf-editor
[00:34] <zvacet> aaron_wayne : cd /usr
[00:34] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i mean, i guess they are no big issue, but i uninstalled the game and i would like those to go away too
[00:34] <apocaliptica> i wana install kernel  and  i   dont know how?
[00:34] <Nick_Meister> edbian, ive been using their drivers for ever
[00:34] <jordan_> im using openjdk
[00:34] <apocaliptica> someone can help?
[00:34] <Khisanth> ...
[00:34] <jordan_> pfifo, thanks
[00:34] <jordan_> ill try that
[00:34] <edbian> Nick_Meister: I have no idea :(  Ask in #ubuntu+1 they might know better
[00:34] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: those files are used by the software center itself
[00:34] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, lol, maybe thats not what im thinkin of then, i thought i couldnt get into the before
[00:34] <zvacet> apocaliptica: latest?
[00:34] <edbian> elementz: open gconf-editor
[00:35] <MaRk-I> apocaliptica: how do you want to install a kernel, or why?
[00:35] <elementz> edbian: done.
[00:35] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, so they would show regardless of being removed from the computer?
[00:35] <apocaliptica> ZVACET 2.6.39
[00:35] <apocaliptica> I HAVE DOWNLOAD IT
[00:35] <edbian> elementz: apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[00:35] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: well they would be gone if you remove the software center but I don't think you want to do that
[00:35] <apocaliptica> cause  i have a intell 5100 and it dont work with the kernel i have
[00:36] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, right, i got ya, so i guess i should just leave it alone?
[00:36] <edbian> elementz: should be clear in there I think
[00:36] <zvacet> apocaliptica: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/automatically-compile-and-install-the-latest-kernel-using-kernelcheck-in-ubuntu.html
[00:36] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: yes
[00:36] <elementz> edbian: yeah, thats where i looked already. but theres no option to switch off the display of the icons
[00:36] <apocaliptica> did  it work with backtrack   too?
[00:36] <edbian> elementz: umm, there are 4 check boxes.  display home folder on desktop is one of them.  Is that box ticked?
[00:37] <bazhang> apocaliptica, that is not supported here
[00:37] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: if you search for fretsonfire in software center, you see that burning F icon, that is what one of those files is
[00:37] <bazhang> !backtrack | apocaliptica
[00:37] <bazhang> apocaliptica, /join #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[00:37] <elementz> edbian: thats the problem. there is no such option in my gconf. only for computer_icon_visible home_icon_visible and so on
[00:37] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, cool, okj
[00:38] <elementz> edbian: what would be the proper name for the setting, so that i can create it myself?
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: Is the home_icon_visible box ticked?
[00:38] <apocaliptica> ok thank you
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: OH!! Those are missing!
[00:38] <MK``> if I export the output of a terminal using sudo, will I have access to that text file without root access?
[00:38] <elementz> edbian: home_icon_visible is not ticked no. none is ticked
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: You say that that field doesn't exist yet at the same time you say it doesn't exist.  Which is it?
[00:39] <Nick_Meister> #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <edbian> elementz:  Sorry, hang on.  home_icon_visible exists or not?
[00:39] <elementz> edbian: home_icon_visible exists and is unticked
[00:39] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: maybe yo ucan try updatedb to update your database
[00:39] <edbian> elementz: But the folder shows up on the desktop?
[00:40] <elementz> edbian: but my problem is, that i suddenly have the contents of /home on my desktop
[00:40] <iaindalton> What's the sound device file on Ubuntu? I don't have /dev/pcm or /dev/mixer, and some app uses those by default
[00:40] <elementz> edbian: meaning, everything residing under /home/ is visible on the desktop
[00:40] <edbian> elementz: So the desktop isn't showing the icon for you home.  It's showing the contents of your home
[00:40] <edbian> elementz: yeah ok hang on
[00:40] <AcidPhone> hax
[00:41] <AcidPhone> i got an android question
[00:41] <elementz> edbian: yep. didn't i say so? sorry if i did confuse you
[00:41] <bazhang> AcidPhone, ask in an android channel then
[00:41] <bazhang> !alis | AcidPhone
[00:41] <AcidPhone> :/
[00:41] <bazhang> AcidPhone, /msg alis list *android* for a channel
[00:41] <edbian> elementz: I was confused but I'm not anymore.  I have to find that setting.  I know there is one, I've seen it before.  I'm looking...
[00:41] <elementz> edbian: thx!
[00:42] <AcidPhone> cool
[00:42] <itilious> are there any options for remote desktop NOT to show my activity to anyone in the room of the remote ubuntu?
[00:43] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[00:43] <shield> Elementz - try this: run gconf-editor and browse to /apps/nautilus/preferences/. There should be an option there called desktop_is_home_dir.
[00:43] <AcidPhone> that command didnt work
[00:43] <shield> i just found this on the Ubuntu forums
[00:43] <cellardoor> I get this from nm-applet on my taskbar, any ideas? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/373041/
[00:43] <elementz> shield: yeah. thats actually unticket
[00:43] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok just reinstalled grub abd booted to ubuntu...but i didnt get option to boot ubunut/windwos
[00:44] <edbian> elementz: There is also this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17752/use-any-folder-for-your-ubuntu-desktop-even-a-dropbox-folder/
[00:44] <bazhang> cellardoor, what version of ubuntu
[00:44] <cellardoor> bazhang: this is my 10.10 box
[00:44] <shield> hmm.  Weird.  Have you tried to check it save it, and then go back in and uncheck it?
[00:44] <elementz> shield: doing that right now
[00:44] <shield> see that clears the desktop of trying to use the home folder for the desktop?
[00:44] <shield> k
[00:45] <bazhang> cellardoor, could you describe in a bit more detail what you are trying to do, please
[00:45] <itilious> is it possible to have ubuntu turn off display monitor upon remote desktop connection, and then turn back on when user disconnects?
[00:46] <AcidPhone> question about yaaic
[00:46] <cellardoor> bazhang: for some reason when I hover over the network manager applet on my taskbar, I am getting 'no network devices available'. and if i run it from terminal, I get that error whenever I click on it.
[00:46] <AcidPhone> it will let me connect to pretty much every server but gamesurge.net
[00:46] <AcidPhone> anyone knoe why?
[00:47] <Etz_> Hello room
[00:47] <bazhang> AcidPhone, android question sounds like
[00:47] <AcidPhone> hey
[00:47] <itilious> or is it possible to have ubuntu local station lock/show login screen after vnc connection made?
[00:47] <Etz_> When version 11.4 will be release?
[00:47] <AcidPhone> wtf. i just did join android :/
[00:47] <edbian> Etz_: 28th
[00:47] <AcidPhone> sry
[00:47] <Etz_> Thanks
[00:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> just installed windows 7 onto dual boot following ubuntu..reinstalled grub but now cant log into windwos
[00:48] <virusuy> hi folks!
[00:48] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, what do you mean cant log into window? can you not boot to it or can you boot it but not log in?
[00:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> i just sudo update-grub2 and it sorted it i think pfifo thx
[00:50] <elementz> edbian: your link actually helped
[00:50] <elementz> thx
[00:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> it wasnt appearing in the boot menu
[00:50] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yeah, i figured, have fun
[00:50] <apocaliptica> help
[00:50] <edbian> elementz: Glad :)
[00:51] <apocaliptica> i need some help on  installing kernel
[00:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> =)
[00:51] <virusuy> apocaliptica: just ask , someone will help you
[00:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> windows takes ages
[00:51] <virusuy> aocaliptica: btw awesome band :-D
[00:51] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, should have went with XP
[00:52] <bazhang> apocaliptica, backtrack is not supported here, as you've told previously
[00:52] <apocaliptica> i need to  install kernel 2.6.39 on backtrack 4
[00:52] <apocaliptica> sorry
[00:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> u think?
[00:52] <virusuy> backtrack ?? this channel is for ubuntu only
[00:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> does gta 4 work on xp better or worse?
[00:52] <virusuy> i dunno if backtrack has a support channel
[00:52] <herman_> any help with ltsp here? #ltsp is quiet
[00:52] <apocaliptica> i miss the chanel agian
[00:52] <bazhang> apocaliptica, /join #backtrack-linux
[00:52] <edbian> there is so many backtrack people.  I can't figure out why
[00:53] <herman_> I have 80% packet loss on my system, can't find the cause of that
[00:53] <edbian> herman_: What if you ping loopback?
[00:53] <bazhang> !backtrack > apocaliptica
[00:53] <iaindalton> herman_: packets go in, they don't go out. You can't explain that.
[00:53] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, usue less resources for me, more for gaming, and since your in the same bin as me, linux for work and windows for games, it might be a bit better, but both work fine
[00:53] <herman_> sorry, ping loopback?
[00:54] <herman_> I'm not a newbe, nor an expert :-) sorry for that
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: 80% packet loss pinging what site?
[00:54] <herman_> any site
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: What if you ping your router?
[00:54] <herman_> I test my own, ofcourse
[00:54] <herman_> www.harperink.de
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: Can you test other machines on your lan?
[00:54] <KINGOFSWORDS> ill try it out and perhps downgrade later on
[00:54] <herman_> no problems pinging the router
[00:55] <edbian> herman_: Sounds like you ISP
[00:55] <herman_> I ruled out all the hardware (router,switch) by testing with other systems
[00:55] <herman_> yes, ISP, private
[00:55] <edbian> herman_: call them
[00:55] <itilious> is there any way to remote desktop to ubuntu without broadcasting the activity everyone in the room of the computer?
[00:56] <edbian> itilious: If you use ssh they can see that you are talking to that machine but they can't see what you're saying
[00:56] <herman_> ha ha, office hours are on monday
[00:56] <Tux19> hey all
[00:56] <herman_> but anyway, it's a big dumb problem
[00:56] <itilious> edbian, i'm not talking about packets i'm talking about the physical display
[00:56] <herman_> the ltsp server/client is a home setup, just for me
[00:56] <itilious> windows RDP shows login screen as to not show remote user activity
[00:57] <itilious> how can i replicate this for Ubuntu?
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: come again?
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: oh.  yeah ssh sorry~!
[00:57] <itilious> ssh will turn off the screen upon vnc remote desktop connection? lol
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: If you ssh in other users will probably have no idea.  They only way they can tell is that you will show up in who
[00:58] <herman_> pinging lo is stable and has no packet ,oss
[00:58] <herman_> Loss
[00:58] <edbian> itilious: ssh doesn't do anything to the screen?
[00:58] <Tux19> how is everyone doing
[00:58] <itilious> lol no?
[00:58] <edbian> itilious: VNC is changing the screen I think
[00:58] <itilious> edbian, i dont want to SHARE my desktop, i wanna use it remotely,,, vnc SHOWS what youre doing remotely
[00:58] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet?
[00:58] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet? in xubuntu
[00:59] <edbian> itilious: I'm not sure how to turn that off.  There isn't some setting in VNC ?
[00:59] <MK``> if I export the output of a terminal using a command that requires sudo, will I have access to that text file without root access?
[00:59] <itilious> edbian, RDP hosts do NOT show the activity,,, the question is....... can ubuntu HOST hide the activity like windows RDP does
[01:00] <edbian> itilious: You could (as a workaround) just use ssh ;)
[01:00] <itilious> does the ssh magical packets work the computer so in a way that no one would be able to actually decipher what they see on the screen edbian?
[01:00] <itilious> :p
[01:00] <Tux19> :p
[01:00] <pfifo> itilious, i agree, just use cli. what do you need the actual GUI for?
[01:01] <edbian> itilious: ssh is cli only. You will not 'see the screen' you will have a bash shell on the target machine.  Besides people looking at your screen while you do it there is no way for them to tell exactly what you're doing.
[01:01] <herman_> anyhow, any options?
[01:01] <itilious> pfifo, just too new to do the remote stuff via terminal yet,,, and too used to RDP lol
[01:01] <edbian> itilious: learn to use the shell.  It's AWESOME
[01:01] <Khisanth> actually you can just start vncserver from cli and that won't show up on screen either :)
[01:02] <pfifo> itilious, again, what do you need todo via the gui, we probbally know how to do it or have some cool tricks
[01:02] <herman_> packet loss occurs while the connection goes down every 15-30 secs
[01:02] <itilious> how much background in programming do you need to have to get really able to even use shell?
[01:02] <edbian> itilious: I would say none  :)
[01:03] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet? in xubuntu
[01:03] <telemare> is this the ubuntu ce support channel
[01:03] <itilious> pfifo, i want to simply have a window/fullscreen view into my ubntu remote machine but so that no one loking at the screen of the HOST see whats going on
[01:04] <itilious> edbian, some good places to help me out with drills, or practice stuff to get me going on shell?
[01:04] <Khisanth> iirc there is an option for that too
[01:04] <edbian> itilious: Khisanth says that if you start vncserver from cli you won't see it on the hosts' machine
[01:04] <telemare> is it?
[01:04] <pfifo> itilious, unplug the monitor?
[01:04] <itilious> i'ved always wanted to learn and i'm made the final push to linux and not going back this time
[01:04] <edbian> itilious: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[01:05] <itilious> bookmark
[01:06] <edbian> itilious: I just googled into linux cli and that came up :P  They're a dime a dozen
[01:06] <Khisanth> it's not necessary for the vnc "desktop" to be shared with the what a person sitting in front of the computer might see
[01:10] <macintoshh> Is there a way that I can stop network manager from auto-reconnecting to a wireless network when it disconnects?
[01:10] <Tux19> hey all
[01:10] <edbian> Tux19: hello
[01:10] <pfifo> If I find a device witha a Motorola Dragonball CPU can I get ubuntu to install on it? (68000)
[01:10] <Tux19> hey man esbain
[01:10] <bazhang> pfifo, no
[01:10] <Tux19> was u the guy i talked to last night
[01:10] <bazhang> Tux19, ubuntu support question?
[01:10] <edbian> pfifo: I don't think Ubuntu supports that arch.  (you could with gentoo :) )
[01:11] <smw> macintoshh, edit the connection setting.
[01:11] <smw> macintoshh, autoconnect is an option
[01:11] <Tux19> nope
[01:11] <pfifo> aww :(
[01:11] <bazhang> Tux19, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:11] <Tux19> edbian: i am talking to you on the private thing
[01:11] <johnn> Has anyone configured a "creative SB live 24-bit" to work on 10.04?
[01:12] <Tux19> sorry someone came in here
[01:13] <macintoshh> smw: unfortunately I have tried that, the issue is not it auto connecting, it is it auto REconnecting when connection drops - when that happens I lose my VPN tunnel and without warning it reconnects me without the VPN
[01:14] <smw> macintoshh, no idea then
[01:14] <tiox> Hey guys, I need some help with Wine, if anybody has the experience I had with it...
[01:15] <smw> !anyone | tiox
[01:15] <DrManhattan> a good cabermet?
[01:15] <DrManhattan> net
[01:15] <macintoshh> Is there a way that I can stop network manager from auto-reconnecting to a wireless network when it disconnects?
[01:16] <johnn> Has anyone configured a "creative SB live 24-bit" to work on 10.04?
[01:16] <Khisanth> you could probably set it to automatically set up the VPN after reconnecting as well
[01:16] <tiox> I installed Wine from the Ubuntu stable repositories, and it works rather well for the two games I tried it out with. Problem is, while sound works when I configure it, when I run one of the games, the sound cuts out the moment sound happens.
[01:16] <bazhang> tiox, installing the package wine? or a particular windows app with wine
[01:16] <bazhang> tiox, /join #winehq for help with particular apps
[01:17] <tiox> I get no sound from games in Windows, but sound works when I configure it (The test sound functions just fine.)
[01:17] <tiox> I have, they are not being particularly helpful at this moment.
[01:17] <Sample> Okay fellas, I've run into a problem that I cannot seem to solve via my googlings. Basically, I setup an ubuntu 10.10 machine as my first time running linux. it is an emachines computer and everything was going fine. i setup a static IP on it so I can SSH into it from work etc. without the IP changing. One day I did the Updates that Ubuntu requested and I believe, possibly,
[01:17] <drkmachine> I have a question on a ubuntu server running samba is this the channel to ask or is there another?
[01:17] <tiox> Your message got cut off.
[01:17] <Sample> that the internet was still working a while after that. Perhaps I rebooted, I don't know, but at some point the internet won't work. (and this is a WIRED connection). Also, I can however access the router settings
[01:18] <tiox> COuld it be issues with NDISwrapper and your WIndows NIC drivers?
[01:18] <bazhang> drkmachine, #ubuntu-server
[01:18] <Sample> tiox: speaking greek
[01:18] <tiox> el oh el.
[01:18] <drkmachine> ty
[01:18] <bazhang> Sample, whats the nic
[01:19] <Sample> network interface.. card?
[01:19] <bazhang> Sample, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <Sample> k
[01:19] <Tux19> anyone needs help
[01:19] <tiox> COuldn't he also use lshw?
[01:19] <bazhang> Sample, please also paste ifconfig
[01:19] <bazhang> Tux19, please dont solicit
[01:19] <Sample> k. I can't paste anything from that computer because I can't access that URL but I'll type it out slowly into a pastebin =D
[01:19] <|Long|> i just changed timezone on my systemtime, is there a cmd to update? instead of reboot?
[01:20] <tiox> Sample: Terminal has copy/paste, just hold shift while doing it.
[01:20] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime |Long|
[01:20] <Tux19> so you are telling me not to help peaple in here
[01:20] <tiox> Highlight, shift+ctrl+c for copy, shift+ctrl+v to paste.
[01:20] <tiox> Tux19: You have it confused.
[01:20] <|Long|> bazhang, thanks
[01:20] <bazhang> Tux19, I'm telling you not to say "does anyone need help"
[01:21] <tiox> This is a community support channel. Help where you can.
[01:21] <Tux19> whats rong with that
[01:21] <bazhang> Tux19, it adds noise to the channel
[01:21] <tiox> Uhhh... people come in here for help. Please use your expertise on those that need it, instead of asking if people need it.
[01:21] <tiox> (If that makes sense.)
[01:21] <bazhang> it does
[01:22] <Sample> tiox, bazhang: thanks I'll be back momentarily. I have to figure out how I can get this output over to this windows laptop I'm on for you guys. I can't even seem to shell into that machine using the local static ip (if this is correct terminology?) which I gave it (192.168.1.2)
[01:23] <Guest42801> hello, I need some help with my new install
[01:23] <bazhang> Sample, you might also want to try sudo dhclient eth0 if eth0 shows in ifconfig
[01:23] <mcfc> hi new to    this
[01:23] <Evildaemon> The term is SSH, but your close enough, as that stands for secure shell.
[01:23] <bazhang> Guest42801, please ask a question then
[01:23] <Afteraffekt> I need help with audio if anybody is willing to help!
[01:23] <tiox> Guest42801: To ensure you egt the best support that you can, give yourself a nickname not already registered here.
[01:23] <tiox> get*
[01:23] <Evildaemon> *Sample
[01:24] <Afteraffekt> I have audio through my laptop speakers, but not through my headphones. using sudo alsamixer all the volumns are turned up
[01:24] <tiox> Just type /nick [nickname goes here]
[01:24] <Tux19> hey all
[01:24] <bazhang> Tux19, hi
[01:24] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome-volume-applet? in xubuntu
[01:24] <francesc1> hi Tux19
[01:25] <tiox> you are saying, there is no way to adjust the volume in xubuntu?
[01:25] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, via the package manager? or the terminal?
[01:25] <pfifo> tiox, it works no problem for me
[01:25] <Tux19> francesc1: talking to you in a private chat room
[01:25] <Seven_Six_Two> xubuntu uses xfce4, right?
[01:25] <bazhang> !pm | Tux19
[01:26] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[01:26] <tiox> Yes, 762
[01:26] <pfifo> tiox, use xfce4-mixer
[01:26] <pfifo> should bbe built in
[01:26] <ljsoftnet> bazhang the terminal
[01:26] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, see abovce
[01:26] <Sample> okay nice I found a USB drive i'll output those commands for you guys into a file and bring them over in a minute
[01:26] <Afteraffekt> does anybody have any ideas for me?
[01:27] <tiox> ljsoftnet: Does sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-applet work?
[01:27] <tiox> If not, you will need to seek out the package manually, shouldn;t be too hard with Google.
[01:28] <Afteraffekt> Laptop Speakers play sound, but Headphone jack doesnt, any ideas
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, are you in face using gnome? not xfce?
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> !repeat | Afteraffekt
[01:28] <tiox> He said xubuntu. So it should be assumed it is xfce 4, nor Gnome 2.
[01:28] <tiox> not*
[01:29] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, a pure ide is a software switch, check amixer carefully
[01:29] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two im on xfce
[01:29] <Afteraffekt> thank you pfifo
[01:29] <tiox> I also found in my experience alacrate needs to be installed manually, and I think gconf-editor too.
[01:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> pfifo...stupid question...but i have gta4 installed in ubuntu...i still need to install in windwos right?
[01:29] <tiox> alacarte*
[01:30] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, assuming its a legal copy, thne yeah you probbally nee to run the installer, you probbally need direcx and stuff too
[01:30] <tiox> KINGOFSWORDS: Maybe not.
[01:30] <Seven_Six_Two> KINGOFSWORDS, did you check winehq?
[01:30] <tiox> If you can access your Ext4 partition in WIndows, it should still work from running the executable.
[01:31] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, bronze, i never got it working
[01:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> i installed in wine...just wouldnt run cuz of DSCGlaucher crashing
[01:31] <tiox> Otherwise, yes, reinstall it.
[01:31] <Guest628> c
[01:32] <tiox> #winehq is all but dead. Anybody wish to help me with my Wine sound issue, at all?
[01:33]  * YoungMaker is having problems installing ubuntu for the first time. Won't let me get past the password page!
[01:33] <Sample> tiox, bazhang: lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595002/ , ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595001/ , dhclient eth0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595000/ , lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595003/
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, is your capslock on?  ;)
[01:33] <pfifo> tiox, can you give some details? run wine in cli and see if theres any error messages
[01:33] <tiox> Uh, Sample,  okay, thanks.
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, oh, I might have misunderstood. You can't even get the install completed?
[01:33] <YoungMaker> yea
[01:34] <YoungMaker> then sometimes it crashes
[01:35] <juan_> quien habla español
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, so the installer asks you to type your new password. Can you type it once? Can you not type? Does it say there's an error? When you put your password in, does your computer say "Brain the size of a universe, and I have to remember your passwords..."
[01:35] <bazhang> !es | juan_
[01:35] <Sample> so again, on a WIRED connection I can't access the internet. I THINK it could have potentially been caused by the first big update ubuntu performed after the install. Either this, or the static IP I had setup... but the static IP had been working completely fine before.
[01:36] <juan_> thanks
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, does   ifconfig   show that you have a non 169. ip?
[01:36] <Sample> I put off the update ubuntu was requesting after install for a while because it was so large and at some mysterious point after a week or so of use the internet completely stopped working and so I'm kind of supposing it could have been an update thing
[01:36] <Sample> Seven_Six_Two: this is my ifconfig ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595001/
[01:36] <dd214> what's a good first person shooter that will run on Ubuntu?
[01:37] <YoungMaker> helll no I type it in and and the "foreward button is shaded and willnot press, it says in the loading bar "ready when you are"
[01:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, can you ping 192.168.1.1
[01:37] <Seven_Six_Two> dd214, ut2004
[01:37] <Sample> Seven_Six_Two: I can access the router, yep
[01:37] <Sample> even from my browser
[01:38] <Sample> it could be a router issue too but its a cisco e2000, pretty durn smart and ive never had it get confused and shut anything out before. maybe the static ip thing.. no idea
[01:38] <dd214> Seven_Six_Two thnx
[01:38] <Sample> im just hoping i can perform some commands that will give me a better idea of what im trying to fix here
[01:38] <victorhugo289> Guys, I have a problem, Gparted shows 2 partitions on a SATA hard drive but the second partition is labeled "Sda3" how can that be possible, there must be a hidden partition!
[01:38] <Sample> where the problem/internet outage actually lies
[01:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, Have you tried powercycling your modem and router? Does your router say you have a connection, with an ip from your isp?
[01:38] <victorhugo289> The first partition starts at sector 63?
[01:38] <pfifo> Sample, try pinging google @ 209.85.157.99
[01:39] <Nick_Meister> does anyone have a work around for this bug with unity ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/661450
[01:39] <Afteraffekt> thank you pfifo, but where is the settings that turns off the speakers and activates the headphone jack when its plugged in?
[01:39] <victorhugo289> And I can't install Windows XP on my first partition, I had this terrible virus named Tenga, and I get errors even though I formated the partition
[01:39] <Nick_Meister> im not able to get the title bar with the separate x screens going
[01:39] <victorhugo289> I have no expeerience with SATA drives
[01:39] <Afteraffekt> victorhugo289 you may need to 0 it out
[01:40] <Sample> WTF
[01:40] <victorhugo289> How??
[01:40] <Sample> so i pinged google and it worked
[01:40] <MNichie> victorhugo289, 0 out the MBR
[01:40] <Sample> so i went to google in my browser and it worked
[01:40] <victorhugo289> I thought of using Fdisk -f but this is a SATA drive, will it work??
[01:40] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, like i said it was just an idea, sometimes soundcards can havwe alot of extra options like that
[01:40] <Sample> it hasnt been working for a WEEK and ive been restarting the physical router... restarting init.d/networking, all kinds of stuff!
[01:40] <victorhugo289> The first partition starts at sector 63, i don't know if that's normal
[01:40] <Sample> the only things ive done were run the 4 commands the channel asked for... could that have fixed it somehow!? O_O
[01:41] <pfifo> Sample, its DNS problem likely
[01:41] <victorhugo289> I can tell there's a hidden partition in there, or something.
[01:41] <Sample> they were lspci, ifconfig, dhclient eth0, and lshw
[01:41] <YoungMaker> Seven_Six_Two: any help? pls. its a dell demesion 3000 pentium 4 w/ 80 GB HD
[01:41] <Afteraffekt> victor thers many things, also the mbr takes up the first bit
[01:41] <MNichie> victorhugo289: not likely, do this http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/36203-how-zero-disk-especially-mbr.html then reformat
[01:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, you and me both. That's why I switched to twinview with absolute positioning, then added panels for my other monitor
[01:41] <onur_> Hi !
[01:41] <Sample> that is completely, totally, absolutely, bizarre
[01:41] <tiox> BTW, Nautilu8s Elementary kicks ass for it's built-in term. http://paste.ubuntu.com/595004/
[01:41] <Sample> im more confused now than when it didnt work =O
[01:42] <victorhugo289> Alright, but if I install Ubuntu will that clean the MBR?
[01:42] <pfifo> Sample, check /etc/resolv.conf see if you have valid DNS servers listed
[01:42] <tiox> Nautilus Elementary*
[01:42] <victorhugo289> Will installing Ubuntu clean the MBR?
[01:42] <Sample> its like totally fixed and i havent the slightest clue why
[01:42] <Nick_Meister> Seven_Six_Two, what about the separate workspaces issue, i want to be able to switch workspaces on both monitors independently
[01:42] <Sample> ive been fighting with it, doing various things i found via googling, etc for a solid week
[01:42] <Sample> it 100% wasnt working when i joined this channel
[01:42] <bazhang> Sample, fixed?
[01:42] <Sample> bazhang: somehow, yes...
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, well, that's a sacrifice I was willing to make. It's a tradeoff for being able to drag windows from one monitor to the other
[01:43] <Sample> im honestly sitting here like, "did putting the USB into the computer fix my internet o.O"
[01:43] <tiox> victorhugo289: What about the MBR again?
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, how long is the password you're trying to enter?
[01:43] <bastidrazor> bazhang's magic can reach across worlds.
[01:43] <Nick_Meister> Seven_Six_Two, but i dont want to drag windows
[01:43] <victorhugo289> I had this virus, and before wiping the HDD I did Avast, it locked some key files for Windows XP to work properly, then those files appear as "Inaccessible" during the new Windows XP installation, even though I formatted the parttition, and I'm like WTH!
[01:43] <tiox> Sample: I had a similar bizzare incident where I thought X was the issue, but I fixed a mouse problem... by plugging another mouse in.
[01:43] <Sample> i joined the channel, ran the 5 commands you guys asked for the output of, put them on a USB, came in here, pinged the google IP and to my dismay it worked, and then so i went to google.com, and everything works like it was never broken
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, sorry if I gave you false hope. Your issue is why I stopped trying. It was frustrating to say the least
[01:44] <victorhugo289> @tiox, if I install Ubuntu, will it take over the MBR?
[01:44] <YoungMaker> Seven_Six_Two: ******** letters
[01:44] <MNichie> victorhugo289: Then you have a virus that has put itself in the MBR, wipe the MBR and the partitions
[01:44] <Sample> well thanks for the time everyone, although im not sure how on earth after all my trials and tribulations its suddenly fixed by doing nothing
[01:44] <Afteraffekt> yea
[01:44] <Sample> you guys are apparently magical
[01:44] <tiox> victorhugo289: Worse comes to worse, download Parted Magic and burn to disk, run from RAM (or CD) and use the secure wipe function of your hard drive through it.
[01:44] <YoungMaker> now its stuck "getting the time from the server"
[01:44] <pfifo> Sample, gremlins need to sleep sometime
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, it's been a while since I've done the install...There's nothing else on the screen that it might be asking for? a username?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> yea. I put in Aaron
[01:45] <bazhang> YoungMaker, all the usernames are in lower case?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> no
[01:45] <Sample> just out of curiousity, could any of those commands (lspci, ifconfig, dhclient eth0, and lshw) have possibly fixed anything, or are they just showing the output of some settings without having any altering effects?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> ahhhh
[01:45] <bazhang> try that then YoungMaker
[01:46] <MNichie> dhclient can pull a new ip addr/dns...
[01:46] <YoungMaker> WOW. i feel like an idiot. Thanks doe the help!! its installing
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, nice catch! I didn't know that was a requirement.
[01:46] <pfifo> Sample, dhclient eth0 could have
[01:46] <bazhang> Sample, no way of knowing really
[01:46] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, its a bug of long standing
[01:47] <bazhang> YoungMaker, not your mistake, atrocious bug in the installer
[01:47] <victorhugo289> I will wipe the MBR by installing Ubuntu 10.10, I have no other choice, but then I'm gonna have to wipe Ubuntu installing Windows XP, and I hope --I really hope-- the installation will not fail again.
[01:47] <Afteraffekt> pfifo, may i send you a pm please?
[01:47] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, thats fine
[01:48] <Sample> pfifo: yeah that one gave me some odd output
[01:48] <Sample> what does that command do exactly?
[01:48] <YoungMaker> Whats a good IRC client for ubuntu, im on Ice Chat in xp now
[01:48] <bazhang> Sample, gets a newlease
[01:48] <Sample> YoungMaker: xchat
[01:48] <YoungMaker> ill try that
[01:48] <Sample> YoungMaker: and mIRC is by far the best on windows
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, yes, xchat. not xchat-gnome
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, cli = irssi weechat  gui xchat and others
[01:49] <victorhugo289> What I did on the infected Windows XP was to scan it with Avast, Avast then sent some key files to the vault --rundll32.exe-- etc, and when I tried to re-install Windows XP again from the CD I get error after error about not being able to accesss the files which I know are those Avast locked, this is sooo weird.
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, check in the package manager or apt-cache search irc
[01:49] <YoungMaker> hmm ice chat works ok, but it uses like 12,000 kb ram. is mIRC better for that?
[01:49] <Nick_Meister> u know what screw it im going with kubuntu
[01:49] <Nick_Meister> tired of unity crap
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, mirc for ubuntu? no
[01:50] <YoungMaker> for xp
[01:50] <bazhang> ask in ##windows
[01:50] <Nick_Meister> xchat works in windows
[01:50] <bazhang> as does irssi
[01:50] <tiox> victorhugo289: If not answered already, yes, Ubuntu takes over the MBR.
[01:50] <victorhugo289> I went to Windows, it's not helping me, look: I am an Ubuntu user, I am talking about a Windows XP which is on a friend's computer.
[01:50] <YoungMaker> well yeah, but my ubuntus sitll installing on my crap computer, so ill have to wait
[01:50] <tiox> This can be undone through WIndows' recovery console or rescue disk.
[01:51] <pfifo> Sample, dhclient requests an IP address from a dhcp server
[01:51] <bazhang> victorhugo289, not getting help in ##windows does not make this the fallback windows support channel however
[01:51] <rww> victorhugo289: #ubuntu is for technical support with Ubuntu. It's not for technical support for Ubuntu users who are using Windows right now ;P
[01:52] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:52] <MNichie> victorhugo289: Once again you need to completely wipe the MBR, beyond that, take it to geek squad or something
[01:52] <lucia> i have problem on easynote driver after installing ubuntu it has 640 480 resolution ,ow to make it higher?
[01:52] <victorhugo289> I am installing Ubuntu, lol!  what is your problem guys? I'm telling you I am installing Ubuntu, the issue I have is with a dual boot installation where the Windows OS failed!
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aaw. I was planning on asking someone to help me fix my toaster. I use ubuntu 10.10
[01:52] <victorhugo289> ok
[01:53] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, are the coils intact? plugged in?
[01:53] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, no one told me I had to plug it in..
[01:54] <victorhugo289> It failed because there's is a hidden partition and Gparted does not show it. But I will have to go to #Windows...
[01:54] <lucia> i have problem on easynote, After installing ubuntu ,the driver has only 640 480 resolution ,how to make it higher?
[01:54] <rww> victorhugo289: gparted shows all partitions on the disk.
[01:55] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't thin windows can hide a partition from linux...
[01:55] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone be able to help me enable "master" mode on my netbooks wifi... I am trying to turn my netbook into a wireless accesspoint that shares the internet my usb mobile broadband is receiving.. So far most threads and ubuntu wiki docs are not applicable
[01:55] <rww> victorhugo289: numbering oddities are a byproduct of partitioning sometimes. e.g. if you make three partitions, then delete the first two and make one big one, the last one will still be named sdx3.
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, have you downloaded special drivers for your wifi?
[01:56] <tiox> Paddy: Can you bemore specific?
[01:56] <binni> is it possible to do a command that open up a new terminal and executes a command in that terminal?
[01:56] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: nope I am have a broadcom chipset and using the proprietary driver which is not allowing me to enable master mode
[01:57] <MNichie> binni:What are you trying to do?
[01:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, from what I've read, you need patched drivers for master or promiscuous mode on many/most cards
[01:57] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: I have no idea what driver I need
[01:57] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: Any chance you can help me for a while to see with a different pair of eyes.. I have been trying to do this for a few days now
[01:58] <Paddy_NI> and I typically find what I am looking for :/
[01:58] <binni> MNichie: I'm using Alarm Clock 0.3.1 and it can execute a command when the alarm goes off, but I find it a bit weird to go into System Monitor to close the script started by alarm clock, better to just Ctrl+C in a terminal
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I hate to send you off on a hunt, but your best source of information on patched wifi drivers is backtrack-linux (BT4). Their driver collection and documentation is very thorough...
[01:58] <RealOp> So im attempting to upgrade from 10.10 32 bit, to 10.10 64 bit. If i select use entire partition does it erase my data?
[01:59] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:59] <tiox> RealOp: Maybe not?
[01:59] <bazhang> RealOp, only arch upgrade is full reinstall
[01:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I don't know enough to be able to help with that. sorry... BT4 is imho your best source.
[01:59] <tiox> Hey, is there a way he can do a dist-upgrade to a 64-bit version of buntu?
[01:59] <bazhang> RealOp, is your home on a separate partition?
[01:59] <bazhang> tiox, no
[02:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I don't mean you should install it. But you can get info on whether there is a prepatched driver for that card
[02:00] <arve> Yo. Not strictly an Ubuntu related question, but imma try my luck: I recently extended my windows partition (gparted) due to lack of space and having an empty partition laying around on the same disk.  BURG seems to still be able to detect my win7 installation, but i get an error when trying to boot it up. Am i looking at a complete reinstall of windows here, or is that still preventable?
[02:00] <bazhang> arve, that is in no way an ubuntu question
[02:00] <bazhang> arve, try ##windows
[02:00] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: that would be nice.. where should I go.. do  you know the name of the irc channel?
[02:00] <bazhang> Paddy_NI, #backtrack-linux
[02:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, #backtrack-linux
[02:01] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, not a popular channel though. The website and forums for the distro are the place to go
[02:01] <tiox> RealOp: I heard if you reinstall Ubuntu and keep your primary account information the same, your home folder will not be erased at all, and you can still continue where you left off with a few simple commands.
[02:01] <Paddy_NI> okay
[02:01] <tiox> Can anyone here confirm what I said was right?
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, that's true. Given that you don't select your /home partition to be formatted
[02:01] <dysruption_> is there a particular reason I cannot join ##java ?
[02:02] <Seven_Six_Two> dysruption, is your nick registered with nickserv? are you authenticated?
[02:02] <tiox> So to do this, he would have to make a /home partition and move everything to it, provided he went with a default install?
[02:02] <dysruption_> I guess not, lol
[02:02] <pfifo> tiox, if your home folder is on a seprate partiton
[02:02] <MNichie> binni: gnome-terminal -e command
[02:02] <RealOp> tiox, any more info?
[02:02] <bozotheclown> dysruption_: you have to be registered
[02:02] <bazhang> !home | RealOp
[02:02] <bozotheclown> dysruption_: register with nickserv
[02:02] <tiox> RealOp: You went with a typical, automated install right?
[02:02] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, not the default install. you would have to manually set up partitions
[02:02] <dysruption_> bozotheclown, how do I do that?
[02:02] <hiexpo> ? does ubuntu 10.04 use extlinux
[02:02] <bazhang> dysruption_, /join #freenode
[02:03] <Partmedia> All you need to do is make sure /home isn't overwritten.
[02:03] <bozotheclown> type /msg nickserv help
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, ext2, ext3, ext4
[02:03] <tiox> Well, guess what? If he went with a typical install, gparted would show no home.
[02:03] <tiox> It would just be /.
[02:03] <tiox> Oh, and some swap, I think.
[02:03] <pfifo> !register | dysruption_
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, that's right. the default doesn't create a separate home
[02:03] <RealOp> lol i was on psyhcocats last night
[02:03] <tiox> Hah.
[02:04] <tiox> Well, follow their instructions. THEN you can reinstall Ubuntu with 64-bit without worrying about overwriting home.
[02:04] <tiox> Otherwise, the other way to do it would be to copy home to an external deice, reinstall, then replace the contents in your new home from stufff in your old home.
[02:05] <tiox> Think of it like taking your prized possessions before bulldozing a house, then putting everything in the new house.
[02:05] <RealOp> okay ive decided what im gonna do
[02:05] <victorhugo289> Thanks @Rww
[02:05] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, not that  :) when i run bleachbit i get an error  Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys'
[02:05] <pfifo> tiox, tar and bzip are good for that
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, is that a read only file in your trash?
[02:06] <tsnovo> como instalar driven de placa de som encore
[02:06] <RealOp> just repartition it so my new OS is at the begining of the partition, move all my 'old data' to another partition been wanting to do this for awhile anyways
[02:06] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, let me see
[02:06] <tsnovo> ???
[02:06] <tsnovo> alguem sabe como instalar driven de placa de som?
[02:07] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, it's probably read only, and owned by root
[02:07] <Blue1> !es |  tsnovo
[02:07] <tiox> RealOp: Parted magic is a nice solution for this.
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, aren't you using xfce4?
[02:07] <tiox> Look it up, burn it to disk, use it. It comes with gparted, uses LXDE so it;s lightweight and less prone to crashing in the middle of changing things.
[02:08] <tsnovo> sorry i thought that i was in ubuntu br
[02:08] <tsnovo> rsrs
[02:08] <RealOp> tiox, just gonna use gpartd thats on the installer cd
[02:09] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two,  yep
[02:09] <tiox> Alright RealOp, go nuts.
[02:09] <RealOp> up
[02:09] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two yes
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, is that just confirmation, or are you good from here?
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, did you not have any luck with the mixer designed for xfce?
[02:10] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, well i have no problems was just wondering why it is in there  and does not selete does it have some special purpose
[02:11] <katsrc> if i wanted to try out GNOME 3 would i have to install a lot of dependencies?
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo,   it looks like something moved after unmounting a usb key. did you try to set up usb boot?
[02:11] <pfifo> katsrc, im sure there are going to be some upgraades for that
[02:12] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, sorry. 'before unmounting'
[02:12] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, oh i do it all the time building usb's i kinda thought that is what it was but wasn't sure
[02:13] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two i have no problems with it but, i was looking for, the same kind of applet like gnome-volume-applet
[02:13] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1091230.html
[02:13] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, oh I see. qmixer might work for you. It's alsa
[02:13] <blackbox> I use XFCE (sometimes) but I can not find my network folders on any other computers in my network. These folders were easy to find in GNOME, but I can no longer find them.Where would I find the network Servers in XFCE.
[02:14] <Seven_Six_Two> blackbox, what kind of folders? nfs? samba?
[02:15] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two you know the website for it?
[02:15] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, it's found in synaptic
[02:15] <blackbox> Seven_Six_Two,  samba
[02:15] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, yup thats what it is nobig it can stay there not hurting anything
[02:15] <pfifo> blackbox, i dont think xfce has built in support for that in the gui, you would probbally have to mount them on cli
[02:16] <Seven_Six_Two> blackbox, there are utilities you can use, like smb4k
[02:16] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two its not there
[02:16] <pfifo> blackbox, perhaps use nautilus in xfce if its installed by gnomes side
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, I got the name wrong. Try qamix
[02:18] <tiox> Anybody figured out my Wine problem yet
[02:18] <tiox> Because like I said, #winehq is bloody useless.
[02:20] <mladen123> hey guys i have huge problem with bootmgr missing and grub2
[02:21] <mladen123> alive ?
[02:22] <bmorriso> If I'm not using DHCP, can I uninstall dhcp3-common and dhcp3-client?
[02:22] <pfifo> !details | mladen123
[02:23] <pfifo> bmorriso, you should be able to, but make sure it dosent try to take something importan along with them
[02:23] <bmorriso> if I did an apt-get remove dhcp3-common dhcp3-client would it tell me what it's taking???
[02:23] <pfifo> yes
[02:23] <mladen123> hey guys, i cant fix bootmgr missing problem, no way to fix it
[02:24] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two can i run qamix as panel and adjust volume like a slide on the panel
[02:24] <pfifo> mladen123, what exactly happens?
[02:25] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, I think so, but I haven't tried it in a while. I remember using it like that
[02:25] <kanji> post your conky RCs lol
[02:26] <mladen123> pfifo: well i installed ubuntu over win7 and somehow after long hours of trying i added windows 7 to grub.cfg
[02:26] <mladen123> but it says bootmgr is missing
[02:27] <pfifo> can you pastebin you grub.cfg
[02:27] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two can i install this http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-media/2.28/gnome-media-2.28.1.tar.gz
[02:28] <irrelephant> ok, so i am a recent transplant from windows 7 to ubuntu 10.1, so i have to ask a few question if yall can help a newb out...
[02:28] <pfifo> !info gnome-media
[02:28] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, there are official packages in the repos
[02:28] <mladen123> well my grub.cfg is not the problem i think
[02:28] <fatuous> i'm trying to use tar to backup my linux partition to dvd. ubuntu 10.04. should you --exclude=/dev ? that gave me an error. so did excluding the name of the resulting backup file. i used options cvpzf
[02:28] <ljsoftnet> pfifo ok
[02:28] <mladen123> pfifo: i think problem is i don;t know where bootmgr is ?
[02:29] <mladen123> pfifo: could have been that it was installed on some other partition not on my primary C: windows?
[02:29] <llilli> windows?
[02:29] <pfifo> mladen123, the windows boot stuff is on C:\
[02:30] <mladen123> pfifo: so why can't grub find it ? i added it manualy now bootmgr is missing???
[02:30] <mladen123> pfifo: i have no clue what to do next
[02:30] <pfifo> mladen123, have you ever had a working dual-boot with your grub.cfg
[02:30] <fatuous> is there anything other than tar that's good to use?
[02:31] <pfifo> fatuous, 7z is a trend and cpio is available as well
[02:31] <fatuous> thank you
[02:32] <aprigio>  #ubuntu-br
[02:32] <mladen123> pfifo: well not on this pc..
[02:32] <mladen123> pfifo: can i do something about bootmgr, like install it again witouth reinstalling whole windows 7?
[02:33] <pfifo> mladen123, pastebin you grub.cfg, ill double check for syntax and errors
[02:33] <pfifo> mladen123, im sure window has a rescue system but have no idea how or where to look.
[02:33] <multipass> what desktop enviromnemt is 11.04 using?
[02:33] <multipass> is it still gnome?
[02:33] <pfifo> unity
[02:34] <edbian> multipass: it is not gnome
[02:34] <mladen123> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/DWhNPCWq thanks
[02:34] <multipass> o really... interesting
[02:34] <multipass> why the change?
[02:34] <mladen123> pfifo: i cant do rescue with startup disc, like bootrec.exe /fixboot
[02:34] <mladen123> it doesnt work :(
[02:35] <janzert> I see the schroot man page talks about a union filesystem chroot and apt recommends the aufs-modules and unionfs-modules packages but packages are listed as not available in maverick. Is there a way to do a union filesystem chroot with schroot in maverick?
[02:35] <Nick_Meister> guys my firefox takes a really long time to open
[02:35] <Nick_Meister> i start it up and then nothing happens for a really long time
[02:35] <mladen123> pfifo: btw my windows is in dev/sda3
[02:36] <multipass> oh is unity what they use for Netbook Ubuntu release?
[02:36] <Nick_Meister> for all releases now
[02:36] <edbian> multipass: UNR is very similar to unity
[02:36] <Nick_Meister> since 11.04
[02:36] <Blue1> multipass: yeah that was in the 10.10
[02:37] <pfifo> mladen123, try cahanging it to (hd0,3) then
[02:37] <edbian> multipass: The new version in 11.04 is different a little.
[02:37] <mladen123> pfifo: tried that, but it says wrong signature..
[02:37] <Blue1> i heard that 5 of 11 users managed to crash unity
[02:37] <mladen123> is there a way to install bootmgr again?
[02:37] <multipass> do basically they are dumping support in next release?
[02:37] <multipass> for gnome*
[02:37] <Blue1> mladen123: hang on a sec
[02:38] <pfifo> mladen123, what happens when you try the vista option in grub?
[02:38] <edbian> Blue1: I heard that to.  But it's still in Beta
[02:38] <Blue1> mladen123: http://pkill-9.com/?p=314
[02:38] <mladen123> pfifo: its windows recovery mode, with lenovo.. so nothing
[02:38] <mladen123> bluel: looking it it..
[02:38] <Blue1> edbian: true but you'd think it would be "more debugged" than it is.  still it's better then what they had in 10.10
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1: You think it's better than gnome 2.X ?
[02:39] <Blue1> edbian: oh heavens no --
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1: You think it's better than the netbook remix unity from 10.10 ?
[02:39] <pfifo> mladen123, i think its simply just a misconfiguration, grub is not looking in the right place for bootmgr
[02:39] <Blue1> edbian
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1:
[02:40] <Blue1> edbian: yes the 11.04 beta release of unity is better then the 10.10
[02:40] <edbian> Blue1: agreed :)
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> i dunno about u guys but after using unity for a little while i gotta say
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> i hate it
[02:40] <pfifo> me to
[02:40] <Blue1> edbian: http://pkill-9.com/?p=703
[02:40] <edbian> Nick_Meister: haha, it's not for everybody
[02:40] <mladen123> ok thanks guys, i will try what bluel sent me.. who knows maybe it will work ;(
[02:40] <Paddy_NI> How do I bring the network interface "eth1" down?
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> edbian, if thats the case they shouldnt force us to use it, but they do :(
[02:41] <Nick_Meister> thats why kubuntu is my next upgrade XD
[02:41] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[02:41] <edbian> Nick_Meister: You don't have to use it at all!  Choose 'classic' at the session menu at login
[02:41] <pfifo> Nick_Meister, well they need to put something there by default, server already called no GUI, theres going to be a gunbuntu for us
[02:41] <Todd200> Will they make a Gubuntu with gnome 3? :p
[02:42] <kanji> anyone here play starcraft2? wants to play?
[02:42] <Nick_Meister> edbian, as it turns out classic also uses unity as a desktop decorator
[02:42] <edbian> Nick_Meister: really?
[02:42] <Nick_Meister> edbian, yah
[02:42] <Blue1> edbian: http://digitizor.com/2011/04/15/crashed-unity-canonical-study/
[02:42] <edbian> Blue1: That one I read this morning :)
[02:43] <pfifo> Todd200, yes its been announced
[02:43] <Blue1> edbian: k -- i have heard that 11.04 ships with unity as the default.
[02:43] <edbian> Blue1: it will
[02:44] <Blue1> edbian: choices aren't a bad things - wish they would let me choose
[02:44] <Todd200> pfifo: lol, I think that's amusing "sudo apt-get install gubuntu-destop"
[02:44] <edbian> Blue1: You can install the other desktops (they're all still packages)
[02:44] <edbian> I'm not sure if they'll have a gnome3 package (they should)
[02:44] <Blue1> edbian: ah when I tried that with 10.10 I was stuck with unity like it or not.
[02:45] <pfifo> Nick_Meister, its really easy to install something else, painless to have unity gnome and xfce if you wanted
[02:45] <Blue1> edbian: do you know if 11.04 will have gnome 3.x or?
[02:45] <policyq> wheres the STOP button in totem
[02:46] <Blue1> policyq: dunno but sudo pkill totem     will make it die
[02:46] <edbian> Blue1: 11.04 will have unity
[02:46] <Blue1> edbian: yes but will it have gnome 3.x?
[02:46] <policyq> Blue1: nah overkill i just need it to stop
[02:46] <pfifo> policyq, spacebar should pause
[02:46] <edbian> I find it hard to believe that Ubuntu is forcing people to use unity.  I believe it is the new default.  I do not believe it is impossible to switch.  Surely you can install xfce or KDE at the least!
[02:46] <policyq> pfifo: right though i need a stop
[02:46] <pfifo> pause and rewind?
[02:47] <edbian> Blue1: I don't know if there will be a package for gnome3  I'm looking it up right now
[02:47] <policyq> pfifo: nope to tedious and doesn't work on streaming playlists
[02:47] <policyq> *too
[02:47] <Blue1> hmm doesn't seem to be a stop in totem
[02:47] <pfifo> right click the video? maybe there isnt a stop
[02:47] <edbian> Blue1: unity uses compiz to decorate windows.
[02:48] <policyq> nope. aparently there is literally no stop buttom in a video player
[02:48] <atc3030> hey guys. i gotta friend needing help with getting a printer to work with ubuntu. hes new and ive never used a printer with ubuntu. would yall mind if he jumped in?
[02:48] <Blue1> edbian: i have compiz issues so stick with metacity
[02:48] <pfifo> policyq, file a bug report and mention it is causing problems with streaming media
[02:49] <edbian> Blue1: natty will have a gnome3-session package:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome3&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian
[02:49] <edbian> Blue1:
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian: omw (on my way)
[02:49] <edbian> on your way where?
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian: thanks
[02:50] <Blue1> edbian: to the link you posted
[02:50] <edbian> :)
[02:50] <linuxcandy> how to install gnome 3 in Maverick ?
[02:50] <Blue1> okay off to breakland......
[02:51] <edbian> !gnome3
[02:51] <Blue1> linuxcandy: might be tricky -- lib dependenceis and what not
[02:51] <Blue1> theres no place like gnome!  (and you can click your heals more then 3 times, if necessary)
[02:51] <linuxcandy> Blue1: how do I do that ?
[02:51] <linuxcandy> no place like gnome ?
[02:52] <crus> How do i install Python modules for the Python 2.7 install on ubuntu 10.10?
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: it's the gui that I choose to use.
[02:52] <edbian> crus: what module are you looking for?
[02:52] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[02:52] <pfifo> linuxcandy, i think there is a ppa for it, but if not, then compiling from source is always an option
[02:52] <crus> edbian: for instance i want to run easy_install on the 2.7 install instead of the default 2.6 install
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: i guess you've never seen the wizard of oz
[02:52] <linuxcandy> Blue1: is gnome3 not GUI ?
[02:52] <monaDeveloper> I'm having a problem with playing flash movies
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: mn
[02:53] <linuxcandy> Blue1: is that a movie?
[02:53] <edbian> crus: Have you tested it working in python 2.6 ?
[02:53] <linuxcandy> pfifo: link for the source please
[02:53] <monaDeveloper> I have dell xps m1530 and I use flash 10
[02:53] <ubuntu_recover> I'm having an advanced issue...w/ecryptfs
[02:53] <crus> edbian: yeah it works for Python 2.6, i did an aptitude install python_setuptools and that gives me easy_install for the 2.6 install but not the 2.7 install
[02:53] <linuxcandy> !gnome3
[02:53] <monaDeveloper> but the machine temp gets so high reaching over 90
[02:53] <Blue1> linuxcandy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/combined
[02:53] <dmoney> how do i set up a printer with ubuntu
[02:53] <edbian> crus: I don't think there is a difference...
[02:54] <monaDeveloper> any idea what should I do
[02:54] <pfifo> linuxcandy, well it would be at gnome.org, any ppa info would be there as well, you will probbally break your system installing it but theres no reason not to try if your willing to reinstall if things go wrong
[02:54] <Blue1> dmoney: System/Administration/Printing is a good place to start.
[02:54] <linuxcandy> Blue1: i ll see that :) for time being would you please tell me about gnome 3 ?
[02:54] <edbian> crus: Try to create a python file that uses that module and run it with python2.7
[02:55] <atc3030> what kind of printer dmoney
[02:55] <linuxcandy> pfifo: its not recommended to use ?
[02:55] <crus> edbian: thats the thing, the modules installed for Python 2.6 via aptitude, do not get installed for the 2.7 install :z
[02:55] <monaDeveloper> I'm having a problem with playing flash movies my machine's temperature gets over 90 degees
[02:55] <crus> edbian: for example, iv installed python-pysnmp-common and can use it from the 2.6 install but not the 2.7 install
[02:55] <Blue1> linuxcandy: http://www.gnome.org/
[02:55] <pfifo> linuxcandy, well there isnt an official package yet so its not really supported, more of a alpha/beta stage
[02:55] <ubuntu_recover> when I su into my user and run ecryptfs-mount-private  I get  You do not own that encrypted directory
[02:55] <dmoney> no duh blue1. its a cannon mp620 but my computer wont find it as a network printer
[02:56] <linuxcandy> pfifo: i see
[02:56] <Blue1> dmoney: well you didn't say that...
[02:57] <dmoney> Blue1: well now i did
[02:57] <drpi> So my usb mouse lights up, but won't do anything. Help?
[02:57] <edbian> crus: Look in /usr/lib/
[02:57] <edbian> crus: there are folders in there (for you there is probably both python2.6 and python2.7).  See if the module you're looking for is in one but not the other.
[02:58] <asdfasdfasdf> cool, no redirect to #ubuntu-proxy or whatever it was
[02:58] <crus> edbian: /usr/lib/python2.6 doesn't contain for example this pysnmp module..
[02:58] <edbian> crus: You should just create symlinks all around so that it works again.  Does that sense or do you need more instruction?
[02:59] <crus> edbian: when you install modules via aptitude where do they install to?
[02:59] <janzert> edbian: that seems like it will cause problems if any of those modules use C extensions
[02:59] <edbian> crus: Into /usr/lib/python2.6  (if the module is for python2.6)
[03:00] <crus> edbian: i cant see this particular module in /usr/lib/python2.6 or python2.7, but i can most definitely use it in python 2.6 :O
[03:00] <edbian> janzert: will they?  What other option is there?
[03:00] <janzert> they would have to be recompiled for the other version
[03:00] <edbian> crus: there might also be a generic /usr/lib/pymodules ?
[03:00] <janzert> python doesn't keep a stable api between major releases
[03:01] <edbian> janzert: Why is there not a package for each?
[03:01] <edbian> Oh I see
[03:01] <edbian> crus: Perhaps you should just use python2.6  ?  I program in python all the time.  Not sure there is even a difference between 2.6 and 2.7!!
[03:01] <policyq> Idea #18075: Movie Player (Totem) should have a stop mechanism
[03:01] <policyq> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18075/
[03:02] <pfifo> good job policyq
[03:02] <crus> edbian: i want to test against 2.7 on ubuntu.. my script is running much better CPU wise on Windows using 2.7..
[03:02] <Khisanth> edbian: of course there is otherwise there would be no reason to do a release :)
[03:02] <janzert> http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.7.html
[03:02] <policyq> pfifo: no that's been there for months
[03:02] <edbian> crus: Then you have to compile the 2.7 version of the lib like janzert suggested
[03:02] <edbian> Khisanth: :)
[03:03] <crus> Yep.. so how do i use setuptools on the 2.7 install
[03:03] <pfifo> policyq, ohh haha, totem devs probbally thought they were being slick really
[03:03] <policyq> pfifo: ha too clever by half
[03:03] <policyq> =]
[03:04] <drKrane> Anyone use Antivirus software on Ubuntu?
[03:04] <Auriga> drKrane, I think some people do maybe..
[03:04] <pfifo> drKrane, well not on ubuntu but I have it on my usb recovery system
[03:04] <janzert> crus: you'll probably need to install setuptools into the 2.7 install manually
[03:05] <edbian> drKrane: It generally is not needed
[03:05] <crus> janzert: put the egg file in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages ?
[03:05] <janzert> or use ez_setup.py run with the python2.7 install
[03:05] <janzert> http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py
[03:07] <crus> janzert: thanks, I'll give those a go
[03:09] <pfifo> just curious now but do the official repos have virus scanning and or some hurestics in place to avoid accidents?
[03:10] <ss_> 这是中文聊天吗？
[03:11] <pfifo> !cn | ss_
[03:11] <Kai_> Hey, lahwran.  I just got the email.
[03:11] <lahwran> that was fast
[03:11] <ejsejs> Hey networking isn't woring at all
[03:12] <Kai_> Well I need fast help, to be honest.  This thing is really killing me.
[03:12] <ejsejs> Whenever you click on the networking thing, there are no options, even when it's plugged in
[03:12] <lahwran> Kai_: I sent you a privmsg, see bar at top of webchat
[03:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi....is copying to fat32 usb stick from linux suppose to be slow
[03:14] <iRockdolo> hello all
[03:14] <iRockdolo> pretty new to this IRC CHAT
[03:14] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yeah usb is pretty slow compared to internal hdd
[03:14] <iRockdolo> how does this work
[03:14] <Sivik> why would grub2 be installed on two different partitions and can that cause issues with not picking up windows on the second drive?
[03:14] <pfifo> iRockdolo, its like miltiplayer notepad
[03:14] <edbian> iRockdolo: hi.  You ask a question.  People that know the answer tell you.
[03:14] <KINGOFSWORDS> no i mean especially in linux
[03:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> its like 3.9meg a second....slower than 4xdvdr
[03:15] <ejsejs> Hey, my networking ins't working
[03:15] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, no, not in particular
[03:15] <iRockdolo> hopefully I will get the hang of this fairly soon
[03:15] <ejsejs> my friend told me something about editing a single file
[03:15] <ejsejs> it was really simple, but I can not find teh file
[03:15] <iRockdolo> so who is using ubuntu 11.04 beta 2
[03:15] <ejsejs> I forgot what it was
[03:15] <ubuntu_recover> hello..i'm stumpped can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> but usb1.0 should be quicker than 4meg per second surely?
[03:16] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, ohh, no 1.0 can be crap at times
[03:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> ahh
[03:17] <pfifo> 2 usually plays nicely
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> i just burn a full dvd and took 10 minutes...usb stick has same size and is like 15mins
[03:17] <pfifo> at the same time?
[03:17] <drKrane> is it a new install ejsejs
[03:17] <moonchild> hi guys... I've got a semi-random question regarding consolekit
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> nah separetly
[03:17] <ejsejs> drKrane: no, it just happened randomly
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> more like 20mins
[03:17] <ejsejs> I don't have the compute rwith me, it's my friends
[03:18] <ejsejs> and the same thing happened to me
[03:18] <moonchild> ...is there a reason why console-kit-daemon has 63 running threads?
[03:18] <ejsejs> and I remember going to a file and changing a no to a yes or uncommenting something, drKrane
[03:18] <ejsejs> it as very simple
[03:18] <drKrane> Hmm...Don't know but when you have the computer come back
[03:19] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, I think there are some trick regarding DMA, but thats old stuff, probbally already in place if needed, but if you were so inclined you could research usb and dma and such a bit further
[03:19] <ejsejs> drKrane: I can get it right now...
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> any1 recommend a good virtual dvd prog?
[03:19] <iRockdolo> whats a good sight to learn the command line in ubuntu?
[03:19] <iRockdolo> site
[03:19] <iRockdolo> sorry
[03:19] <moonchild> does anyone here either know anything about cosolekit, or can they point me to a chat that might have people who can?
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> ahhh its only a 1 time transfer
[03:19] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[03:19] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, /join #bash
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> but if i do again i will look thx
[03:20] <Jasonn> I get this error when running OpenVPN http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/ <-- Installed from deb from openvpn.net
[03:20] <edbian> iRockdolo: no need to apologize.  We're not supposed to say 'google it' but honestly if you just google 'linux command line tutorial' I'm sure you'll get tons of great tutorials
[03:20]  * moonchild nods at edbian
[03:20] <shcherbak> moonchild: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454
[03:20] <iRockdolo> thanks edbian
[03:21] <moonchild> shcherbak: thanks
[03:21] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bash+tutorial http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+command+line+tutorial http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+command+line+tutorial
[03:21] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, the first one being probably the most useful and to the point
[03:22] <pfifo> imo google is a valid resource if use correctly, even for new users and not so google-fu users if guided correctly
[03:22] <moonchild> that bug report honestly matches exactly what I'm seeing
[03:22] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, since 99% of the time you'll be dealing with bash
[03:22] <moonchild> iRockdolo: way back in the mid-90's I read a very good oreilly book called 'learning the bash shell'
[03:23] <moonchild> I highly recommend that if its still in print
[03:23] <iRockdolo> thanks
[03:23] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, don't bother buying a book, just go join the #bash channel and read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[03:23] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, not sure what's wrong with the link i already gave :P
[03:23] <shcherbak> !abs | iRockdolo
[03:23] <moonchild> also, bash has one of the most comprehensive manpages in existance
[03:24] <jorell> hi
[03:24] <jorell> is there where I can get help with ubuntu
[03:25] <edbian> jorell: You're here :)_
[03:25] <shcherbak> jorell: Also, here.
[03:25] <moonchild> jorell: here!
[03:25] <jorell> awesome
[03:25] <ubuntu_recover> help please?
[03:26] <moonchild> ubuntu_recover: what's up?
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: What is the issue?
[03:26] <jorell> seems I don't know how to do a pm
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> i'm having a few issues..
[03:26] <edbian> jorell: Just ask here.  No need to PM
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> 1 i can't boot into my hd...
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: such as.... ?
[03:26] <shcherbak> jorell: /msg shcherbak HI
[03:26] <knightautwell> hey room whats up
[03:26] <moonchild> jorell: '/msg <nick> <message>
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: Do you have ubuntu installed?
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> grub starts to load then stops...
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> yes..
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> laptop is system 76, pre installed
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: vidia card?
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> yes
[03:27] <edbian> oh really?
[03:27] <trik> what is a system 76?????
[03:27] <jorell> Fair enough. Well, I'm pretty new to ubuntu, still working out the kinks
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> sorry on vidia..it's amd
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: pre-installed and it doesn't work?!  Call them!!
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> no..
[03:27] <edbian> trik: They sell computer with linux installed
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> had lappy for a few mos
[03:27] <trik> Oh thats cool
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: mhmm....
[03:27] <ddilinger> i am trying to boot my ubuntu system into single user mode.  Typically this would be done my adding a 1 to the kernel command line, but my grub never comes on screen for me to press right-shift
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> 3 days ago i added kde to play
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> reboot
[03:27] <ddilinger> any suggestions for booting into single user mode easily?
[03:27] <jorell> currently, I'm trying to create a wireless network that I can use for my wireless electronics to use
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> and now nothing
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: Can you get to the grub menu?  Turn off quite and splash so that we can see errors
[03:28] <jorell> that goes through my computer
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> nope..can't get in..
[03:28] <jorell> via my extra wireless adapter
[03:28] <moonchild> ddilinger: add init=/bin/bash to the kernel boot line
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> so i put rescue disk in...
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> of course i encrypted my home dir
[03:28] <ddilinger> moonchild: but the problem is i can get to the kernel boot line
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> as well..i'm a geek
[03:28] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: press shift during boot to make the grub menu show up?
[03:28] <pfifo> ddilinger, i think you can hold control to force the bootmenu up, maybe shift
[03:28] <bazhang> !enter | ubuntu_recover
[03:28] <shcherbak> ddilinger: What version is it? Pre 9.10?
[03:28] <knightautwell> hey quick question is there a way to make the banshee music player display lyrics to songs as a song is playing?
[03:28] <bastidrazor> i love the enter
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> my bad...
[03:28] <ddilinger> moonchild: once there its easy, but my system never shows the grub menu when i hold shift.  not sure the number, its lucid lynx i believe
[03:29] <ddilinger> shcherbak: i think its lucid lynx
[03:29] <moonchild> ddilinger: I think if you hold down the shift key, you'll get a grub prompt
[03:29] <shcherbak> ddilinger: You think?
[03:29] <ddilinger> shcherbak: i just checked sources.list, its lucid
[03:30] <pfifo> perhaps they put syslinux on it?
[03:30] <ddilinger> moonchild: hmm, guess i'll try again holding the shift key, before i was pressing it repeatedly
[03:30] <shcherbak> ddilinger: sudo vim /etc/default/grub , and apdate grup after edit.
[03:30] <ubuntu_recover> 10.10 is what i'm on... but i can but into rescue, then have acess to hd..(on it now)...all i need to get is some pics of my children out of encrypted home dir then i can flatten, and start new..when i follow guides online for them i get You do not own that encrypted directory
[03:30] <ddilinger> shcherbak: perfect, thanks
[03:30] <moonchild> shcherbak: thanks for your help
[03:31] <jorell> so. Is there a program for ubuntu that'll let me use the desktop as a wireless AP?
[03:31] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: It's encrypted.  You literally cannot.
[03:31] <bazhang> !ics > jorell
[03:31] <shcherbak> jorell: You chipset need to support master mode.
[03:31] <jorell> I tried using webmin, but I did it wrong
[03:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> how do i put a file over 4gb on usb?
[03:32] <KINGOFSWORDS> is it fat32?
[03:32] <ubuntu_recover> ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:32] <edbian> jorell: Well yes.  But only if your hardware supports it.  I looked once and learned my hardware does not support it acting as an AP
[03:32] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you can not, fat32 does not support files that big, you can use a utility like tar to split it into smaller chuncks
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[03:33] <alpha> I want to install windows (dual boot) and I am wondering how one makes a bootable USB-stick with an iso-file. The "Startup Disc Creator" seems to work with ubuntu iso files only
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> is that on synapic ?
[03:33] <ouyes> how to search the file containing content "0x7c00"
[03:33] <ubuntu_recover> I followed these instructions: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html but i get i don't own them.. (useradd)
[03:33] <bazhang> alpha, iso of what
[03:33] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, tar is a cli program you already have it
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah ok thx
[03:33] <jorell> I see
[03:34] <shcherbak> ouyes: cat <files> | grep <content> (use common sense)
[03:34] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: what don't you own?  Can you sudo chown those things?
[03:34] <KINGOFSWORDS> has it a gui?
[03:34] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, nautilus might have a suitable front end if you right clck and choose to compress/archive the file, but im not 100% sure if it will make a split archive
[03:34] <alpha> bazhang, I have windows 7 on an iso file (it's a legal version through MSDNAA) and want to make a bootable USB stick so that I can install windows.
[03:35] <alpha> *as an iso file
[03:35] <bazhang> alpha, ##windows please
[03:35] <ubuntu_recover> just did chown...did'nt work
[03:35] <Soares> ç/cllose
[03:35] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok...would it be better to make the usb a bootableusb...as it is a iso file
[03:35] <ubuntu_recover> sorry...
[03:36] <ubuntu_recover> did chown name and then ecryptfs-mount and that worked...
[03:36] <ubuntu_recover> thanks you all rock!
[03:36] <pangaea> hey all, i just upgraded from 10.10 to the 11 beta
[03:36] <alpha> bazhang, am using ubuntu and need help with how one makes bootable usb sticks in ubuntu (regardless of what the iso file is).
[03:36] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: no problem
[03:36] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: glad I could help
[03:36] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes if you format it as ext2 and install grub3 on it youll be able to boot it directly
[03:36] <xcc234> hello
[03:36] <pfifo> grub2*
[03:36] <edbian> alpha: use the usb creator.  Point it at the ISO
[03:36] <bazhang> alpha, that does not work with ubuntu tools. ##windows for support please
[03:37] <jorell> how can I tell if the adapter supports being used as an access point?
[03:37] <edbian> jorell: what is your chipset?
[03:37] <KINGOFSWORDS> would the usb work in windows if its a different format thou?
[03:37] <pangaea> i upgraded to 11 from 10.10, when i boot with the normal kernel i get a blank screen with a flashing caps lock key
[03:37] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you could also use NTFS im pretty sure grub2 can boot with it
[03:38] <bazhang> pangaea, #ubuntu+1 please
[03:38] <pangaea> thanks
[03:38] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok thx pfifo
[03:38] <shcherbak> jorell: sudo iwconfig <interface> mode master
[03:38] <alpha> edbian, I tried but it created a bunch of ubuntu specific files in the usb, such as "wubi", "syslinux" etc
[03:39] <edbian> alpha: It created an Ubuntu install only?
[03:39] <edbian> alpha: I'm not on an Ubuntu machine.  I don't remember if it has an option to choose another ISO but I thought it did.  Does it not?
[03:39] <bazhang> edbian, no
[03:39] <bazhang> edbian, specifically not windows
[03:39] <edbian> bazhang: ?
[03:40] <jorell> ebian: what do you mean by chipset?
[03:40] <edbian> bazhang: not windows?
[03:40] <FloodBot2> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <pfifo> alpha, windows does not support booting from an iso without heavy cracking, we cant help you here, ##windows probbally cant even help, your best off to burn it to a DVD
[03:40] <alpha> edbian, as far as I can see, nope
[03:40] <bazhang> edbian, he wants to create a windows usb stick, which the usb-creator cannot do, nor is it ontopic here
[03:40] <edbian> jorell: Do what shcherbak said.  If you want to find the chipset look at the output of sudo lspci.  The chipset of my wifi card is BCM4306
[03:40] <edbian> bazhang: a-ha!
[03:40] <edbian> alpha: sneaky devil
[03:41] <alpha> pfifo, hmm, too bad
[03:41] <ouyes> how to search the file containing content "0x7c00"?
[03:41] <Jasonn> I get this error when running OpenVPN http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/ <-- Installed from deb from openvpn.net
[03:41] <bazhang> ouyes, you were just given an answer to that
[03:42] <shcherbak> jorell: try, to see hardware: lspci , see if you can find your network adapter on the list.
[03:42] <egypt> Hi
[03:42] <egypt> I want to install grub on dev/sda 12 ?
[03:42] <edbian> jorell: If the list is overwhelming you can pastebin it (paste.ubuntu.com)
[03:42] <edbian> egypt: That's a question?
[03:42] <alpha> I think I've found my answer: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[03:43] <Jasonn> edbian: lol
[03:43] <sam_> ah i need help - my monitor is really weird messed up looking. how do i reset the display properties?
[03:43] <ouyes> bazhang, no man , i put "0x7c00" in the search row, nothing come out
[03:43] <Jasonn> edbian: Have you ever installed openVPN??
[03:43] <edbian> Jasonn: no :(
[03:43] <jorell> edbian: thanks
[03:43] <sam_> my menu bar is on my left monitor which is all fuzzy, i only have my right monitor to workspace and i cant access the menu
[03:43] <edbian> Jasonn: Looking at your output.  Install those packages?  (sudo apt-get install iptables_openvpn)  ?
[03:44] <egypt> edbian ,yes
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: Can you look at this error for me? Its a networking problem.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: I have to install that?
[03:44] <egypt> edbian ,yes That's a question
[03:44] <edbian> Jasonn: I just read that and answered you before you could even ask the question.
[03:44] <edbian> I'm good...
[03:44] <edbian> Jasonn: I'm guessing actually.  I think so yes.
[03:44] <shcherbak> ouyes: Have: cat <files> | grep 0x7c00 , give you clue how to get it?
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: Yeah, just saw that.. Ok, ill try that :)
[03:44] <jorell> edbian: I see the wireless, but it doesn't say a chipset
[03:44] <edbian> egypt: You need to install grub if you don't have a boot loader already.
[03:44] <Nick_Meister> hi guys through ssh how can i grab the contents of an xsession
[03:45] <edbian> jorell: What does it say for that line?
[03:45] <Nick_Meister> more towards how do i see an xsession in progress, so whatever the user has up on the screen
[03:45] <jorell> 04:01.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[03:45] <skullboy> how do i do this in gimp http://www.photoshoparchive.com/tutorials/liquid-blood-background/index.php
[03:45] <Nick_Meister> its important for me because i want to continue reading a comic from the bathroom ....
[03:45] <Jasonn> edbian: sudo apt-get install iptables_openvpn <-- unable to locate package
[03:45] <edbian> jorell: Your chipset is AR%001X
[03:45] <edbian> Jasonn: Lemme google
[03:45] <Jasonn> edbian: Thanks :
[03:45] <Jasonn> :)
[03:46] <jorell> AR5001X
[03:46] <edbian> jorell: yeah that
[03:46] <ouyes> shcherbak, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[03:46] <egypt> edbian ,   This is because I use Mac
[03:46] <egypt> edbian ,   This is because I use Mac Os
[03:46] <jorell> so... I google it and find out if it supports AP'ing
[03:46] <edbian> Jasonn: I found this: http://ejd021-linux.blogspot.com/2010/08/service-failed-to-start-due-to.html
[03:46] <bazhang> egypt, anything ubuntu related in your support question?
[03:46] <shcherbak> ouyes: sorry: cat */path/to/files/* | grep 0x7c00
[03:47] <edbian> jorell: Yeah.  Or run this: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master
[03:47] <shcherbak> ouyes: Do not use ** in path
[03:47] <edbian> egypt: Are you installing ubuntu?
[03:47] <mouse> Someone told me you can't legally watch dvds on linux.  Is this true or has he been misinformed?
[03:47] <pfifo> skullboy, maybe start with a few basic gimp tuts to learn what tools are available for gimp so you can try to emulate a photoshop tut
[03:47] <bazhang> mouse, false
[03:47] <bazhang> !dvd > mouse
[03:47] <jorell> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[03:47] <jorell>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:47] <egypt> yes
[03:47] <edbian> bazhang: perhaps it depends on your country?
[03:48] <AlexRamallo> sg NickServ identify 0141302371
[03:48] <edbian> jorell: Your device does not support master mode. (not surprising most don't)
[03:48] <jorell> sad day
[03:48] <edbian> AlexRamallo: you probably wanna change your password
[03:48] <AlexRamallo> fuck
[03:48] <bazhang> egypt, whats your specific ubuntu question then
[03:48] <jorell> oh well haha
[03:48] <edbian> jorell: just get a router :)
[03:48] <AlexRamallo> stupid freenode
[03:48] <edbian> AlexRamallo: haha
[03:48] <AlexRamallo> i mean xchat
[03:48] <bazhang> AlexRamallo, watch the cursing
[03:48] <jorell> edbian: I have an engenius long range client bridge/AP
[03:48] <edbian> egypt: If you install ubuntu it will automatically install grub (regardless of this being a mac(
[03:48] <pfifo> ha
[03:48] <shcherbak> AlexRamallo: Be good for yourself, use irssi
[03:48] <edbian> jorell: IDK what that is.
[03:48] <Jasonn> edbian: I am running the one with the webUI, i think its talking about a completely different thing. I got mine from the website, not from the repos
[03:49] <edbian> jorell: a wifi ap ?
[03:49] <ouyes> shcherbak, is there a gui way to do this?
[03:49] <jorell> it's a business AP
[03:49] <jorell> yeah pretty much
[03:49] <AlexRamallo> go
[03:49] <jorell> it's mostly for big buildings and universities
[03:49] <bazhang> AlexRamallo, ?
[03:49] <egypt> edbian ,How to install grub on deve/sda12
[03:49] <egypt>  ?
[03:49] <edbian> Jasonn: I am out of my comfort zone.  I'm afraid I can't offer much more help :(
[03:49] <shcherbak> ouyes: Not to my knowledge. Are you searching logs?
[03:49] <Jasonn> edbian: Nah, thats alright, thanks mate
[03:49] <edbian> jorell: Why do you need your wifi card to share the signal then?  Just use that AP
[03:50] <jorell> well, I'm not sure how to make it work
[03:50] <edbian> egypt: I just said.  The Ubuntu installer should do it by default
[03:50] <ouyes> shcherbak, i just want to find a file contain some content
[03:50] <edbian> jorell: haha.  Does it have a web interface?  (do you have a typical home router with wifi ?)
[03:50] <jorell> edbian: negative
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: at least, I don't think so
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: it doesn't have multiple ports
[03:51] <shcherbak> ouyes: And do you know (more less) where it can be?
[03:51] <edbian> jorell: does it have 1 port?
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: it has 1 port
[03:52] <edbian> jorell: plug the industry AP into your router.  connect the computer to the router (through wifi or a cable) check the router's dhcp table.  look for the address of the industry AP.  Put that IP into your firefox address bar.
[03:52] <sam_> sorry can anyone help me with my monitor problems
[03:52] <ouyes> shcherbak, in my home dirctory
[03:52] <jorell> ebdian: oh, I see.
[03:53] <jorell> edbian: oh, I see
[03:53] <egypt> edbian , I will make the Mac's bootloader
[03:53] <egypt> Is the default
[03:53] <egypt> Therefore, we must install grub on its own partition
[03:53] <edbian> jorell: :)
[03:53] <shcherbak> ouyes: Gui: http://regexxer.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <mama21mama> "I have 2 new bugs"
[03:54] <edbian> egypt: ?  If you install Ubuntu it will install grub automatically.  Please don't make me say it again!
[03:54] <mama21mama> bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/763089 bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/763249
[03:54] <edbian> mama21mama: In quotes no less
[03:54] <ouyes> shcherbak, ok now I know how to search thanks
[03:55] <Chubcorp> Does anybody know of a way to send emails automatically, I need to spam a spammer.
[03:55] <bazhang> Chubcorp, no of course not
[03:55] <bazhang> Chubcorp, dont ask again
[03:55] <hiexpo> regexer nice tool
[03:55] <ohsix> well people know, but they aren't going to tell you :]
[03:55] <edbian> Chubcorp: why don't you ask us how to identify your spammer?
[03:56] <bazhang> edbian, lets move on please
[03:56] <sam_> how do i change my resolution when i can't access the monitors menu
[03:56] <edbian> bazhang: ot?
[03:56] <Chubcorp> Ok, How do I identify my spammer?
[03:56] <bazhang> edbian, illegal
[03:56] <bazhang> Chubcorp, please stop
[03:56] <ohsix> sam_: xrandr is available on the command line
[03:56] <linuxtech> A couple days ago I had a power failure and my X just comes up with some funky colors for a second and crashes...  I tried manually running fsck.ext4, reinstalling kernels, xorg packages dkms, nvidia packages and a few other things, but it still screwed.  Any suggestion on how I recover this thing without just blowing it away and reinstalling?
[03:56] <jorell> edbian: where is the dhcp table?
[03:56] <sam_> once i get into the command line  what do i type? and how do i go from command line back to ubuntu
[03:57] <edbian> jorell: It's a list the router keeps of all the addresses it's given out.  THe AP should have an entry in the list.
[03:57] <hiexpo> Chubcorp, we do not promote nor teach that kind of behavior
[03:57] <Chubcorp> bazhang, I don't see the problem. Why is this wrong?
[03:57] <edbian> sam_: ctrl + alt + F7 to switch back to gui
[03:57] <edbian> sam_: IDK, why don't you log in?
[03:57] <pfifo> ohh thoswe aare natty bugs, and here i thought i might actually do something useful
[03:57] <ohsix> you can't control what people do with information, and your morality isn't theirs
[03:57] <sam_> what do you mean idk why dont you log in
[03:57] <sam_> log into command line?
[03:57] <jorell> edbian: yes, but... I can't find the lost
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: list*
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: Are you logged into the router?
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: yes, I am
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: It might also be called a DHCP table or a client table
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: What brand of router?
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: netgear
[03:59] <MarioMaster100> danieltux, is that you from irc.saurik.com?
[03:59] <edbian> jorell: attached devices ?
[03:59] <jorell> edbian: what do you mean?
[04:00] <jorell> edbian: desktop, ps3, and now the wireless ap
[04:00] <edbian> jorell: I'm guessing what to click based on forum posts I found:  http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=62237
[04:01] <edbian> jorell: Perhaps this is helpful to you: http://documentation.netgear.com/dgfv338/enu/202-10161-01/DGFV338_RM-08-17.html
[04:02] <dmoney> does anyone know how to set up a network printer? a cannon mp620
[04:02] <Cpudan80> dmoney: How is it connected to the network ?
[04:02] <bazhang> dmoney, checked linuxprinting.org database yet?
[04:03] <dmoney> its a wifi printer
[04:03] <mouse> What would it take to buy the license to a file format and make it opensource?
[04:03] <dmoney> no
[04:03] <Afteraffekt> where can i download Ubuntu 9.10
[04:03] <bazhang> dmoney, best check there first
[04:03] <syrinx_> mouse: why would you need to buy a license for something opensource?
[04:04] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, it is no more support
[04:04] <Cpudan80> mouse: money, legal expertise --- not on topic
[04:04] <itilious> anyone here been able to get starcraft 2 working with ubuntu/wine?
[04:04] <Cpudan80> syrinx_: He wants to buy it and make it open source
[04:04] <dmoney> thanks bazhang
[04:04] <bazhang> itilious, check the appdb
[04:04] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo i know but i need a file from it to make my headphone jack work
[04:04] <shcherbak> Afteraffekt: torrent?
[04:04] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, oh ok what file ?
[04:04] <itilious> bazhang, i did i just can't get past one of the terminal input commands :/
[04:05] <Afteraffekt> /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf
[04:05] <knightautwell> anyone know if theres a way to add site to the banshee music player extension so that it can find more song lyrics?
[04:05] <jorell_> hmm
[04:05] <jorell_> I think my client froze
[04:05] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, oh so you need the config file
[04:06] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo yea, the headphone jack worked in 9.10 but not in 10.10
[04:06] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, one seclet me see
[04:06] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo, ok
[04:06] <skullboy> how do i do this in gimp http://www.photoshoparchive.com/tutorials/liquid-blood-background/index.php
[04:07] <Afteraffekt> why is it tab lists the users in the chat, and doesnt cycle through them in the input box? bah
[04:07] <edbian> skullboy: There is a gimp channel :)  #gimp  (they might be annoyed translating photoshop into gimp for you though)
[04:09] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, looks like they removed karamic stuff, maybey try 9.04 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:09] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[04:10] <pfifo> wth i just tried that and got a 404
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> lol
[04:10] <Guest59149> hi all how do i make a name for myself?
[04:10] <bazhang> Guest59149, /nick newnickname
[04:10] <edbian>  / nick
[04:10] <Afteraffekt>  you /nick (nickname)
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> then
[04:10] <L1T> thankyou :P
[04:10] <edbian> L1T: hi
[04:10] <Magicka> Hello
[04:10] <shcherbak> HI
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> you /msg nickserv register pass email
[04:11] <Magicka> Can you guys help me out with my 11.04 Wireless Drivers.
[04:11] <jorell> edbian: I have searched every link on the netgear file
[04:11] <pfifo> ohh i was at old-releases
[04:11] <Afteraffekt> thanks hiexpo and again pfifo
[04:11] <jorell> edbian: and nothing says dhcp log
[04:11] <hiexpo> i just check the torrent and it is fine
[04:11] <Magicka> My 10.10 had my Wireless drivers in the additional drivers but 11.04 seems to not.
[04:11] <Afteraffekt> i hope this works
[04:11] <bazhang> Magicka, using 11.04 now?
[04:11] <Magicka> Im on windows atym
[04:12] <Magicka> atm*
[04:12] <shcherbak> Magicka: That would be still beta, so #ubuntu+1, but more details.
[04:12] <Magicka> i can use wired on my ubuntu 11.04 though
[04:12] <bazhang> Magicka, what ubuntu version
[04:12] <dmoney> printer: canon mp620 network setup. anyone knw how?
[04:12] <Magicka> I have Windows XP and Ubuntu 11.04
[04:12] <Magicka> IM on my windows xp atm
[04:12] <edbian> jorell: You're back :)
[04:12] <bazhang> Magicka, #ubuntu+1 then please
[04:12] <Magicka> oh ok
[04:12] <jorell> edbian: yup
[04:13] <edbian> jorell: there is definitely a way to find the DHCP clients connected to your network.  I suppose we could just guess.  What is your private address.  What is the router's private address?
[04:14] <jorell> edbian: 192.168.0.1
[04:14] <edbian> jorell: that's the router I presume.  What is your machine's IP ?
[04:14] <dmoney> can someone help me with a printer network setup. its a canon mp620
[04:15] <jorell> uhh... 192.168.0.2?
[04:15] <edbian> jorell: Are you guessing?  run ip addr in the terminal
[04:16] <jorell> well, that's what the netgear router said
[04:16] <jorell> I think I messed up my stuff earlier when I was messing around with webmin
[04:16] <pfifo> dmoney do you need a guide or do you have a specific question in mind?
[04:17] <edbian> jorell: ... your router told you the IP of your computer?
[04:17] <furtat> e ai gente
[04:17] <dmoney> pfifo: i cant get my computer to recognize my printer
[04:17] <jorell> edbian:  Address Reservation Table
[04:17] <jorell> 192.168.0.2 is reserved for the desktop
[04:17] <edbian> jorell: That is the thing we were looking for :)  That's equivalent to the DHCP table.
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: what is the address for your industrial AP ?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it only has my tower and the ps3
[04:18] <pfifo> dmoney, you said its wifi? did you do any configuration yet? try any forum threads?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it doesn't have the AP
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: Connect the industial ap to it?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it is
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: ;)
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: mmmm... Something is up with this thing.
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: so it would appear
[04:19] <dmoney> yea its a wifi printer. tried configuring but im new at this
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: I assumed it would connect to the router when plugged in.  Unfortunately I have to idea how to use it so we're stuck again.  What brand / model is it?
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: the lan button in front is lit, signifying it's connected....
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: Perhaps it isn't DHCP.
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: the ap or the lan router
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: the AP
[04:19] <Charbo> Can someone help me get ubuntu to install on my pc?
[04:19] <edbian> Charbo: What's the issue?
[04:20] <jorell> edbian: engenius senao long range wireless client bridge/ap
[04:20] <Charbo> i have an xfx mobo with amd 750a chipset and it doesnt seem to recognize the sata ports
[04:20] <Chubcorp> dmoney, I had a similar problem, you have to download the driver on the Austrailian Canon website.
[04:20] <dmoney> pfifo yea its a wifi printer. tried configuring but im new at this
[04:20] <Charbo> i can run it fine from the live cd but it wont access my internal drive, only my external
[04:20] <pfifo> dmoney, start here and if you run into any trouble, ask us some specific questions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanonPrintersCanonMP620
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: I'm just googling for a manual for the thing...
[04:21] <dmoney> pfifo, alright.  thanks
[04:21] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?
[04:21] <jorell> edbian: easier searched than found
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: what's the model number?  ECBXXXX ?
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: so far yes
[04:21] <Afteraffekt> 9.10 is taking a while to download hha
[04:22] <edbian> jorell: FYI  This has NOTHING to do with Ubuntu.  I think the ops are giving us the benefit of the doubt here ;)
[04:22] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, you could try a mirror
[04:22] <Afteraffekt> has 25 min left, ill live
[04:22] <Charbo> here is my board http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/products/motherboards/7series/750.aspx
[04:22] <Charbo> ive ran it fine on multiple other computers
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: yeah
[04:23] <edbian> jorell: I can't find it
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: I was thinking I should take this to my boss on monday
[04:23] <wizonesolutions> How can I make rsync sync recursively like with the --relative switch but exclude part of the source path up to a certain point? So that it doesn't sync /home/myuser/ and so on but just the main directory I want and below?
[04:23] <edbian> jorell: good call
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: my original question was only about the ubuntu/adapter used as a desktop AP
[04:23] <edbian> wizonesolutions: -r for recursive
[04:24] <Sivik> why would it be reading two MBR records when i'm trying to get windows added to the grub folder
[04:24] <jorell> edbian: which we determined was infeasible since it can't go into master mode
[04:24] <Sivik> grub menu*
[04:24] <jorell> edbian: but, thanks. For help with both. I really appreciate it :)
[04:24] <edbian> wizonesolutions: -F for exclude.  Look at the man page
[04:24] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Yes, I'm using -a so that is on there. However, it doesn't actually copy the parent directories for single files. Just any directories underneath directories that I specify. So halfway there, but not quite.
[04:24] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Ohhhhh yeah that might do it actually...for some reason I thought it'd exclude the file itself
[04:24] <edbian> jorell: I know.  I wanted to get the AP to work if we could but we couldn't.  :(
[04:25] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Will give it a try, thanks. Have been looking at the man page, couldn't figure out what I needed
[04:25] <Tux19> heyall
[04:25] <shcherbak> Uhm, looking for hardware lists, any format (for last 10-15 years).
[04:25] <edbian> wizonesolutions: I'm just reading the man page.  Try what I said but it's possible something more elaborate is needed
[04:25] <jorell> edbian: sure couldn't. It could be broken
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: Hopefully not.  It looks like a big ticket item
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: m'eh. Got it from work
[04:26] <bazhang> Tux19, hi
[04:26] <Sivik> anyone here good with getting windows to be picked upin grub?
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: pardon?
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: I work in a tech office
[04:26] <edbian> Tux19: let's talk here please
[04:26] <Tux19> just telling edbian i was on here
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: oh, got it 'from' work
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: well, i'm a work study at the I.T. dept of my university
[04:27] <Tux19> i woud but peaple has a problem with that
[04:27] <edbian> Tux19: hello
[04:27] <edbian> Tux19: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[04:27] <edbian> jorell: neat :)  Good luck with it!
[04:27] <LorgonJortle> Hey there!
[04:27] <jorell> edbian: I'll ask my boss if he knows, or if it's defective
[04:27] <jorell> edbian: easy to replace
[04:27] <edbian> jorell: :)
[04:27] <korejora> Hey, is someone available to inform me a little about dual-booting Ubuntu with Windows?
[04:27] <edbian> LorgonJortle: hello.  Ubuntu question?
[04:28] <edbian> korejora: people are here.  Ask your question and if people know the answer they'll answer
[04:28] <LorgonJortle> I'm wondering how I can change the size of the grip on each window's border. I find it very hard to grab them when resizing.
[04:28] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: Alt-F8 can help you.
[04:29] <edbian> LorgonJortle: different themes have different widths.  You can't change it wihtout changeing the theme.  System -> Preferences -> Appearances
[04:29] <edbian> Tux19: if you wanna chat why not join #ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[04:29] <LorgonJortle> shcherbak: That's great, thanks!
[04:29] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: In gnome, borders are there specific, you can use emerald (different decorator) to edit size of borders.
[04:29] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?..
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> edbian: I'll take a look at my theme and see if I can't change the size. Thanks. :)
[04:30] <Sivik> can someone help me with a grub issue?
[04:30] <shcherbak> *theme*
[04:30] <edbian> LorgonJortle: I'm not aware of any theme that lets you change the size.  I meant that some themes are thicker than others.
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> Ahh
[04:30] <Bite> I'm having constant issues with boot cds.
[04:30] <edbian> shcherbak: emerald is deprecated isn't it?
[04:30] <shcherbak> edbian: Emerald can.
[04:30] <edbian> Bite: What is the issue?
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> Ok. Alt + F8 is perfect for my needs, anyway.
[04:31] <Bite> I'm trying to identify the issue. It's either cd-r itself, writer, reader, or program.
[04:31] <edbian> shcherbak: Isn't Emerald deprecated or unmaintained or something?
[04:31] <edbian> LorgonJortle: oh good
[04:31] <shcherbak> edbian: Yes, it is, like many others usefull things
[04:31] <edbian> Bite: What is the problem more specifically?
[04:31] <edbian> shcherbak: which? deprecated?
[04:31] <Bite> ediban: Every boot cd i burn is somehow broken once booted.
[04:31] <korejora> Okay. I'm a little fuzzy on how partitions work, but think I have two NTFS partitions. One has Windows installed on it and has other files, and the other one is empty. Can I have Ubuntu "take" the empty partition for itself and format it into a more Linux-happy filesystem during the installation?
[04:31] <edbian> Bite: Details please.
[04:31] <edbian> korejora: yes
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: Say for ubuntu's cd, every time i boot to install i have an issue.
[04:32] <edbian> korejora: If you boot the live CD you can use gparted to get a very clear idea of your partitions
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: sometimes there's no taskbar.
[04:32] <edbian> Bite: Other examples?
[04:32] <LorgonJortle> Another: When Compiz is enabled, I find that menus (where I mouse over them, and they move further to the right) are unresponsive on the first mouse over. I have to, say, right click, mouse over the menu (same with main menu for GNOME), then move my mouse off, then back on in order for the sub menu to show.
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: other times their is a glitch when i am typing in the name.
[04:32] <c4ctus> is there any dedicated channel to JACK, or do i just ask here?
[04:32] <LorgonJortle> I've found that this is only when visual effects are enabled.
[04:32] <shcherbak> edbian: No idea, look quite deserted.
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: entering my username in the fields.
[04:33] <Bite> ediban: also; using xpud, my cursor is strange.
[04:33] <bazhang> Bite, uppercase or all lowercase
[04:33] <pfifo> Bite, try running the md5 checksum make sure you have a good image,and a good cd afterwards
[04:33] <Bite> ediban: their are some strange white patches on the cursors.
[04:33] <edbian> Bite: make sure your username is all lowercase.  That is a common issue.  The installer doesn't explain well.  The other problems just sound like a problem with the CD
[04:33] <edbian> Bite: you're spelling my name wrong
[04:34] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?..Thanks.I want to open multiple documents and titles in the top of the display.
[04:34] <Bite> pfft, i wasn't looking. i'm sorry. It's kind of the way i proccess information.
[04:34] <pfifo> !tab | Bite
[04:34] <edbian> Bite: no worries
[04:34] <Bite> So usernames need to be in all lowercase or uppercase? also, my current client doesn't support tab autocomplete.
[04:35] <edbian> Bite: They need to be all lowercase ( bazhang was asking if yours has uppercase letters in it)
[04:35] <pfifo> wow even mIRC does that
[04:35] <Bite> pfifo: I'm using webchat.freenode.net.
[04:35] <Bite> on an xpud deriv.
[04:35] <Bite> it's just a temp.
[04:36] <Bite> I think the issue may lie in my reader, as i've had faulty installs before.
[04:36] <Bite> I can't boot from my newer sata reader however.
[04:36] <LorgonJortle> No vertical split?
[04:37] <Bite> edbian: pfft, nevermind, i do have tab-autocomplete.
[04:37] <edbian> Bite: In my experience you can just ignore those quarks and install.  I think you got stuck because of the username
[04:37] <Bite> well, edbian, the issue may lie in the reader...
[04:38] <Bite> edbian: it's making strange noises.
[04:38] <edbian> Bite: Well then I agree!  It probably should only make regular noises
[04:38] <Bite> edbian: but i for some reason can't boot from my sata reader.
[04:38] <edbian> Bite: I have no idea about that.  Sounds like the motherboard doesn't support it
[04:38] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: To get tiling in gnome, you would want xmonad, or ride on gnome3
[04:39] <edbian> shcherbak: gnome3 does tiling?
[04:39] <Bite> edbian: i'll be right back. i'll test the cds on a different computer and see if i still have similar issues.
[04:39] <edbian> Bite: cya
[04:39] <shcherbak> edbian: Talking of famous vertical split.
[04:39] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Seems like I'd need a little script to do it, so given that it's more of an edge case I was curious about than anything...I'll just do it with several rsync commands
[04:39] <itilious> how can i find out the video memory available for my ubuntu?
[04:39] <edbian> shcherbak: I don't even know what that is
[04:40] <edbian> wizonesolutions: sounds good
[04:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there anyway to automatically arrange your windows in GNOME
[04:40] <edbian> wizonesolutions: the simplest solution is usually the best
[04:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Such as cascade the windows
[04:40] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: devilspie, one way to do it.
[04:40] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Yep, I'm guilty of trying to get too complex...all. the. time. But hey, I learn a couple things occasionally. Win some, lose some.
[04:40] <itilious> or how much ubuntu reserves of my MAIN memory for Video memory because i have onboard, where can i find this?
[04:41] <edbian> wizonesolutions: :)
[04:41] <edbian> itilious: I believe that is a setting in the BIOS
[04:41] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: hm, cascade, may be difficult in devilspie.
[04:41] <RoDiMuS-X> oh
[04:42] <itilious> edbian, is there no ubuntu utilitity that will show this?
[04:42] <edbian> itilious: I don't know.
[04:42] <LorgonJortle> shcherbak: I'm familiar with tiling. However, that's not at all what I was asking.
[04:43] <RoDiMuS-X> shcherbak: any other suggestions?
[04:43] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: vertical split (you meant two windows, each occupying 50% of screen, in symmetrical fasion, right?)
[04:44] <pfifo> itilious, im not sure abot a utility, but if its available to the system as a readable stringit will be in a file somewhere in /proc
[04:44] <RoDiMuS-X> shcherbak: Doesn't Compiz Fusion already do that?
[04:45] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Not, really... Well Awesome window manager have few modes to deal with arrangement, but it is rather not what you looking for.
[04:46] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Compiz, maybe, never came across such plugin.
[04:49] <RoDiMuS-X> I found a site that says Compiz has a plugin but I cannot find one
[04:49] <NeedSomeHelp> Hi, I just upgraded to latest Ubuntu version, now the colours on videos are very blue/green'ish, how can i fix it?
[04:49] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: It is called "grid plugin", just considering installation ;)
[04:49] <bazhang> RoDiMuS-X, asked in #compiz yet? also apt-cache search compiz may have something
[04:50] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, what version
[04:50] <RoDiMuS-X> alright thanks guys
[04:50] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, 10.04. Have tried both with Totem and VLC, same odd colour schemes.
[04:51] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, 10.10 is the latest
[04:51] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, try disabling compiz, for one
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, how to disable compiz ?
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, what is compiz ?
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, the colours were right in 9.04
[04:51] <Nuge> NeedSomeHelp, it's like Linux's explorer.exe
[04:52] <bazhang> Nuge, no its not
[04:52] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[04:52] <pcpower> more like aero
[04:52] <Afteraffekt> hey all, where would i find /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf on a live disk/
[04:53] <Nuge> Does anyone know how to get your wireless interface's mac address?
[04:53] <Khisanth> ifconfig
[04:53] <The_Anarchist> I am stuck between Fedora and Ubuntu, I'm wondering what you guys think the pros and cons are since you're the experts?
[04:53] <bazhang> Nuge, ifconfig ?
[04:53] <Diamondcite> Nuge: Try the "Connection Information" when you right click on the network icon?
[04:53] <bazhang> The_Anarchist, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:54] <EmuAlert> How quickly do applications get updated on the repositories? When can I expect to see firefox 4?
[04:54] <Nuge> Thank you bazhang and Diamondcite. Both worked.
[04:54] <bazhang> EmuAlert, now
[04:54] <NeedSomeHelp> fixed it, the hue setting was set
[04:54] <bazhang> !fx4
[04:54] <bazhang> EmuAlert, ^
[04:55] <wizard1> guys, i am having a problem with the ibus system icon, i have ibus-daemon set to launch on startup, but when i reboot, the icon doesn't show up in the system tray until i mainly shut down the daemon and restart it?  any ideas on how i can get the icon to work? ibus doesnt seem to function without the system tray icon even if the daemon is running
[04:55] <EmuAlert> Will that correctly upgrade my installation of firefox or install a separate version?
[04:55] <bazhang> wizard1, did you run ibus-setup?
[04:55] <MethedMan> how does one watch .ram files in ubuntu
[04:55] <bazhang> EmuAlert, it'll get the PPA version, which is fx4
[04:56] <wizard1> bazhang: yeah it even shows the show the icon in the systems tray as checked
[04:56] <bazhang> MethedMan, mplayer
[04:56] <Afteraffekt> wow i still cant find this file
[04:56] <MethedMan> bazhang: is there a specific plug-in that i need
[04:56] <MethedMan> bazhang: i prefer to use vlc if possible but the .ram is not working in vlc or mplayer
[04:57] <bazhang> MethedMan, the ubuntu-restricted-extras and possibly w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[04:57] <bazhang> MethedMan, works a treat here in both
[04:57] <DaGeek247> !medubuntu
[04:57] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Yeah I know it'll install the latest version but will it update the version I have from Canonical (keeping all of the settings) or give me a new installation?
[04:57] <DaGeek247> whats medubuntu?
[04:58] <huibuuh> hey, can someone help me with xmodmap?
[04:58] <bazhang> DaGeek247, its medibuntu.org
[04:58] <DaGeek247> ...
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> hey all, where would i find /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf on a live disk it appears that it doesnt exist?
[04:59] <itilious> where did the "software sources" go to in ubuntu 10.10?
[04:59] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, is your headphone jack working
[04:59] <bazhang> EmuAlert, keep all your old bookmarks and such? I'm not quite clear on your question
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> pfifo not yet
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> still trying to find that file
[04:59] <bazhang> itilious, in synaptic package manager
[05:00] <RoDiMuS-X> whats the option to turn on window preview when hovering over a unity launcher icon
[05:00] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, i mean right now, test it on the livecd
[05:00] <Afteraffekt> im not booted into live cd, guess ill pull a cd out
[05:00] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, ahh, well that file is autogenerated most likely
[05:00] <Afteraffekt> was my fear
[05:01] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Yeah. I'm wondering if it'll keep my bookmarks, addons and other settings despite being technically being an installation of a new package rather than an upgrade of an old one.
[05:02] <bazhang> EmuAlert, no idea, not upgraded as I dont use but a single PPA on my system
[05:02] <pfifo> if not then alsactr store 0 would generate it, if your headphone jack is workign then it would be useful
[05:02] <slakcphil> i have a t630 network printer and was wondering if it gets a device file in /dev so I could output error messages to it like an old unix box
[05:03] <slakcphil> i noticed it has a device uri in the gui config in gnome
[05:03] <Afteraffekt> pfifo making my bootable usb now, ill find out i guess lol
[05:05] <MethedMan> bazhang: i installed the packages app-install-data-medibuntu AND apport-hooks-medibuntu.  still not working.
[05:05] <n-iCe> hi
[05:06] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Huh, I'm not that desprate so I guess I won't risk it. Which bring me back to my original question: how long is it usually between when a package is updated by the developer and when it's updated in the official repository?
[05:06] <RoDiMuS-X> Hello n-iCe
[05:06] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Just tested it, nice, Grid stays.
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: Ubuntu updates all the packages at once at release time
[05:07] <n-iCe> can i install ubuntu in my blackberry?
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: so, 6 months
[05:07] <EmuAlert> edbian: Thanks
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: yep
[05:08] <edbian> n-iCe: No.  It is not x86 ( you might be able to install linux on it though )
[05:08] <MethedMan> bazhang: i have 64-bit ubuntu and the codec file is for 32-bit
[05:08] <pfifo> EmuAlert, they might make ff4 a bit faster tho, its something users probbally want
[05:08] <bazhang> MethedMan, then w64codecs
[05:08] <edbian> pfifo: ff4 will come in natty
[05:09] <MethedMan> bazhang: yeah, what was i thinking
[05:09] <bazhang> MethedMan, the main thing is ubuntu-restricted-extras , and keep in mind that not all files will be playable (even in Mac OS and various versions of Windows)
[05:10] <pfifo> edbian, yeah i thought it might get a bit of priority
[05:10] <edbian> pfifo: I don't think it got any special treatment.  Not that I'm aware of.
[05:10] <bazhang> MethedMan, so there is zero reason to try installing realplayer, for example.
[05:12] <pfifo> edbian, i dont see a factoid for libsdl-ttf 2.10
[05:12] <edbian> pfifo: ?
[05:12] <RoDiMuS-X> Whats a good ubuntu news site?
[05:12] <MethedMan> bazhang: i am trying to watch lectures from berkeley cs61a.  do you know if realmedia metafiles work?
[05:13] <gaelfx> hey, I'm replacing my hard drive and I'm wondering what the best way is to copy my /home folder to the new hd. Is there a simple CLI tool that I can use to copy everything, including the hidden preferences files and whatnot?
[05:13] <bazhang> MethedMan, got a link?
[05:13] <edbian> !home
[05:13] <edbian> gaelfx:  ^^^
[05:13] <bazhang> RoDiMuS-X, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <jiltdil> when i start ubuntu the screen was showing that udev 215 connection refused something like that what does it mean?
[05:13] <jiltdil> please tell me
[05:13] <pfifo> in comparison to ff's factoid... i had some bugs cause of outdated sdl-ttf but noone really uses it knowingly like ff
[05:14] <MethedMan> http://wla.berkeley.edu/main.php?func=watchNode&nodeID=1158&smil=1
[05:14] <gaelfx> edbian: my /home is already on a separate partition, I'm talking about copying it over from a different hard drive that has a separate install of ubuntu on it
[05:14] <bazhang> MethedMan, checking now
[05:14] <edbian> gaelfx: I don't understand.  You have 2 harddrives each with Ubuntu installs?
[05:15] <bazhang> MethedMan, works fine here
[05:15] <MethedMan> bazhang: what am i doing wrong
[05:15] <gaelfx> edbian: yes, that is correct. one of the drives is causing problems with my sata and I can't use a DVD drive when it is running, so I need to replace it with a different hard drive
[05:15] <MethedMan> bazhang: installed the w64codec no problem
[05:16] <bazhang> MethedMan, you have firefox open with mplayer?
[05:16] <edbian> gaelfx: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1   (sda1 is the /home you'd like to copy, sdb1 is the partition you wanna copy it to.
[05:16] <MethedMan> bazhang: not sure if i have mplayer in firefox.  is it possible to plug the link into vlc?
[05:17] <edbian> gaelfx: Make sure you get the sda1 and sdb1 thing correct.  Those are just examples.  I don't know what the real partitions are.
[05:17] <edbian> gaelfx: also, make sure /dev/sdb1 is big enough to hold all the data in /dev/sda1
[05:17] <bazhang> MethedMan, it launches mplayer
[05:17] <van7hu> hello, how could I install bind in ubuntu?
[05:18] <erict15> test
[05:18] <bazhang> bot7425, hi
[05:18] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: sudo apt-get install dns-server
[05:18] <gaelfx> edbian: I prefer to do a fresh install on the new drive to make sure any quirks in the previous one don't find their way over, I only want the files from /home copied to the new drive, not a clone of the old one
[05:18] <stryakr> anyone using dwm?
[05:18] <MethedMan> bazhang: perfect.  thank you for your help.
[05:18] <bazhang> MethedMan, works?
[05:19] <gaelfx> edbian: and I need the preferences from my previous setup to retain things in Transmission and other such software
[05:19] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: could not find package
[05:19] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:19] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: 10.04
[05:19] <edbian> gaelfx: You have /home on a separate partition right now?
[05:20] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: Go to the Ubuntu Software Center, and search for GADMIN-BIND.
[05:20] <gaelfx> edbian: yeah, I always keep it on a separate partition
[05:20] <edbian> gaelfx: What partition is it on?
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: it's on the second partition of both disks
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: no encryption or anything tricky like that
[05:21] <edbian> gaelfx: What?  How do you have 2 /home partitions?
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: I have one on each install
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: two hard drives
[05:21] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: yeah, thanks
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: Are both installs the same version?
[05:22] <gaelfx> edbian: yes
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: What the heck is the goal here then?
[05:22] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: No problem.
[05:22] <gaelfx> edbian: I want to copy everything from /home on the old drive to the /home on the new drive
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: You wanna erase the /home that's on the new drive?
[05:23] <MethedMan> bazhang: it works but i have no sound
[05:23] <dios_mio> !compiz
[05:23] <Sample> is there a good music library/player program that I can run through a terminal (well, SSH, because that box has the speakers in my house)
[05:24] <gaelfx> edbian: if that's what I have to do, then I will
[05:24] <edbian> gaelfx: I'm not sure what the point of this is but dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb2   should do what you want.  Does it make sense to you?
[05:25] <edbian> Sample: You can run any of them over ssh using X forwarding  (graphical ones!)
[05:25] <trix`G> Hi guys!
[05:25] <gaelfx> edbian: I guess that would work, it's just a byte by byte copy, isn't it?
[05:25] <edbian> gaelfx: yes
[05:25] <edbian> gaelfx: bit by bit I believe
[05:26] <pentester123> any good guides for ssh x forwarding?
[05:26] <trix`G> Does anyone know how to tell ubuntu to automatically activate my wireless driver when booting?
[05:26] <gaelfx> edbian: I'll give it a try then, thanks for the advice
[05:26] <edbian> gaelfx: sure have a good night
[05:26] <edbian> pentester123: I do
[05:26] <edbian> pentester123: you just do something like this:  ssh -X user@host
[05:26] <gaelfx> (daytime in the Eastern Hemisphere ;))
[05:28] <trix`G> This laptop has broadcom b43 wireless, which ubuntu detected and through the "restricted drivers" gave me the option to enable.  I enabled and all was well, except when I reboot wlan0 vanishes from the list.  When I hit the restricted drivers dialog it says the driver is install but not active
[05:28] <gaelfx> is there a decent guide for setting up apt-p2p in the ubuntu documentation? cause I can't seem to find one...
[05:28] <trix`G> how do I activate them, and more importantly, how do I tell it to activate them automatically when booting up?
[05:29] <Ricksna> hello
[05:30] <Juv1228> any reason in ubuntu my numpad doesnt work?
[05:30] <Juv1228> and the 5 button on it registers as right click?
[05:30] <Sample> edbian: that sounds crazy. well okay what's a recommended/popular graphical ones which I suppose I will then somehow magically run in a terminal using X forwarding? (haha)
[05:31] <[V13]Axel> Juv1228: What keymapping do you have?
[05:31] <Juv1228> oh
[05:31] <Juv1228> shit
[05:31] <Juv1228> i just noticed its moving the mouse
[05:31] <Juv1228> each button is a direction
[05:31] <Juv1228> layout is USA
[05:32] <Juv1228> oh
[05:32] <RoDiMuS-X> numlock on or off
[05:32] <Juv1228> nvm
[05:32] <Juv1228> somehow the default is to allow cursor to be controlled by numpad??
[05:32] <RoDiMuS-X> I take it numlock is off
[05:33] <Juv1228> on and off it did it
[05:33] <pfifo> shift+num lock will turn mousekeys off
[05:33] <MethedMan> bazhang: any ideas about why i have no sound.  ubuntu-restricted-extras is also installed
[05:34] <trix`G> so nobody knows why ubuntu deactivates my fully installed and working fine wifi driverss every time I reboot the laptop?
[05:35] <pfifo> trix`G, tick the auto connect and allow all users in network manager
[05:36] <trix`G> pfifo:  How do I reactivate the driver to do that?  The "proprietary (restricted) drivers" app lists my wifi drivers as "installed but not active" and wlan0 is no longer present in wireless-tools
[05:36] <erict15> a
[05:36] <Sample> what are your guys favorite music library/player programs ?
[05:36] <korejora> Hey, could I get some help with installing Ubuntu? I'm trying to allocate hard drive space, but I'm not sure what it means by "mount point".
[05:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Banshee
[05:37] <Sample> cool ill look into that one
[05:37] <gaelfx> Sample: if you're not opposed to KDE, I would suggest Amarok, it's pretty good
[05:37] <Sample> gaelfx: im a total noob so im sticking to gnome stuffs
[05:37] <gaelfx> fair enough
[05:37] <Aftermath> pfifo you there
[05:37] <psycho_oreos> korejora, it means where do you want to set it on the rootfs hierarchy
[05:37] <pfifo> trix`G, ahh thats a bit different problem than what i offered a solution for. it could be blacklisted, or perhaps you need to blacklist the original driver, or maybe use autoload
[05:38] <pfifo> Aftermath, yup
[05:38] <DaPenguin> korejora: means where in the filesystem the partition gets mounted, / will be for your main partition
[05:38] <Aftermath> pfifo this is Afteraffekt, headphones DO work on 9.10
[05:38] <Aftermath> i can plug in and out and works as it should
[05:38] <korejora> Oh, so the OS will get installed in "/" ?
[05:38] <erict15> test
[05:38] <pfifo> Aftermath, try copying that file, does it exist?
[05:38] <bazhang> !uptime
[05:38] <Aftermath> where was it
[05:38] <Aftermath> i lost it
[05:38] <Sample> so building on what edbian said... would I be able to use Banshee through an SSH terminal via "X Forwarding" to manage my music playing on my linux machine (which has the speakers) ?
[05:38] <DaPenguin> korejora: yes. nix systems put all filesystems as subdirs of / aka "root"
[05:38] <Sample> anyone know anything about this
[05:39] <pfifo> /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf
[05:39] <hiexpo> !alsa
[05:39] <RoDiMuS-X> Sample: I have never tried this my self but I know a few people that were able to get it to workj
[05:39] <korejora> What type should I use for the main partition? ext4?
[05:40] <Sample> k i suppose ill just go for it ,haha
[05:40] <pfifo> hiexpo, not even close :)
[05:40] <Aftermath> pfifo that folder is empty
[05:40] <pfifo> Aftermath, `sudo alsactl store 0`
[05:41] <Aftermath> k
[05:41] <stiltzkin> Good evening folks. Wondering if anyone can tell me how to force an application to route requests through an HTTP proxy. I've tried setting the http_proxy environment variable (via Preferences -> Network Proxy) but that seems to have no effect.
[05:41] <pfifo> stiltzkin, what application, most do not respect http_proxy
[05:41] <erict15> yo
[05:41] <trix`G> pfifo: where is the blacklist located?  It doesn't seem to be in /etc/modprobe.d
[05:42] <trix`G> pfifo: nevermind found it, sorry
[05:42] <stiltzkin> pfifo, wine...the faq for which states that you should use the env variable
[05:43] <stiltzkin> I have also tried tsocks and proxychains, also to no avail
[05:43] <Ben64> stiltzkin: wine isn't an application...
[05:43] <hiexpo> wow snubs has 8,000plus
[05:43] <Aftermath> pfifo i have no more space
[05:43] <pfifo> stiltzkin, what appliication  in wine?
[05:43] <Aftermath> i have ubuntu on an 8gb usb drive
[05:43] <erict15> huh
[05:44] <bazhang> erict15, ubuntu support question?
[05:44] <Aftermath> i have no clue how its out of space tho
[05:44] <stiltzkin> pfifo, spotify client. shouldn't really matter much though right? Wouldn't wine be handling the network connections?
[05:44] <hiexpo> oops wrong channel
[05:44] <dboyd2> hello all
[05:44] <Trihope> noob here, installing first linux os on my comp, have a laptop with windows 7, 320 gb hard drive, about 170 gb available, looking to install ubuntu dual boot, but want to make sure I 1) don't overwrite files, and 2) setup the appropriate partitions.
[05:44] <dboyd2> i need some help with a network issue
[05:44] <pfifo> Aftermath, try `alsactl -f ~/asound.conf store 0`
[05:44] <Ben64> stiltzkin: wine only lets programs work on linux, it's not like a VM
[05:45] <dboyd2> i was just wondering if it is possible to use a drac 4 card as my network card
[05:45] <pfifo> stiltzkin, wine should be providing winsock
[05:45] <dboyd2> and if so how would i go about getting ubuntu to recognize it
[05:45] <Ben64> dboyd2: what is a "drac 4" card
[05:45] <dboyd2> dell remote access card
[05:45] <stiltzkin> Ben64, I'm quite well aware of that. Just a little unclear on how it handles network connections
[05:45] <dboyd2> it does the whole network kvm thing
[05:45] <pfifo> stiltzkin, im not sure why its not respecting it, perhaps its unable to use the proxy and falls back to  direct connection
[05:46] <korejora> What all do I need to make a partition for when I'm installing? Just "/" and "/home", and a swap?
[05:46] <stiltzkin> pfifo, I doubt it, I've tested the connection and it works (at least in my browser)
[05:46] <Ben64> stiltzkin: have you tried setting a proxy for spotify?
[05:46] <Aftermath> pfifo, that should be sending the file where?
[05:46] <pfifo> stiltzkin, maybe try #winehq see if theres a known problem/solution
[05:46] <MethedMan> anyone have any ideas how to get .ram to play sound
[05:47] <Ben64> korejora: all you _need_ is "/" and swap
[05:47] <stiltzkin> Ben64, in my web browser? sure. that all works fine. What I need is to get the client to log me in over the proxy
[05:47] <Aftermath> pfifo lawl, the file is empty
[05:47] <pfifo> Aftermath, to /home/ubuntu/asound.conf your home directory should b e writeable
[05:47] <Ben64> stiltzkin: i mean set it up in the program
[05:47] <Aftermath> pfifo lawl, the file is empty
[05:47] <Trihope> how do I make sure I don't overwrite files when I install ubuntu dual boot setup?
[05:47] <Ben64> stiltzkin: pretend you're on windows and want to use a proxy
[05:47] <korejora> @Ben64 - Okay, but isn't it better to separate the OS from the rest of your stuff?
[05:47] <stiltzkin> Ben64, moot point, can't launch the program without the proxy
[05:47] <pfifo> Aftermath, try `alsactl -f ~/asound.conf store 1`
[05:48] <RoDiMuS-X> MathedMan: Did you install the Helix Player?
[05:48] <mk> panel autohide is taking ages to hide/show the panel. How do I set the delay to 0ms?
[05:48] <pfifo> Aftermath, try adding sudo to both commands
[05:48] <|System|> vmware
[05:48] <Ben64> korejora: personal preferences mostly, you can have as many partitions as you want
[05:48] <dboyd2> MethedMan: http://wiki.videolan.org/Talk:RealMedia
[05:48] <Aftermath> pfifo same problem
[05:49] <pfifo> Aftermath, then perhaps try moving that file out of its proper path and using no file on your install ^^
[05:49] <Aftermath> like on my 10.10 install, delete that file/
[05:49] <Aftermath> ??
[05:50] <steven> :)
[05:50] <korejora> Supposing I wanted the OS install to have its own partition, how much room should I give it?
[05:50] <pfifo> not delete just move to see if it works, youll need a reboot since you cant alsactl init without the file
[05:51] <Aftermath> so i could sudo copy asound.conf asound.conf.bak
[05:51] <Aftermath> er
[05:51] <Aftermath> rn
[05:51] <Khisanth> I have 11G for that but using around half
[05:51] <Aftermath> wtf is the command for rename
[05:51] <Ben64> Aftermath: mv
[05:51] <Aftermath> thank
[05:52] <Aftermath> i feel like an idiot...my college degree involved alot of linux lol
[05:52] <pfifo> heh
[05:52] <mk> how can I change panel autohide delay?
[05:52] <Technicus> Hello . . . I am using the open driver for Radeon HD 3200, it is working great . . . but now I am trying to run OpenSCAD, yet when I initiate the program it issues this statement: [  Warning: No support for OpenGL 2.0 found!  OpenCSG View has been disabled.  ].  That is a very critical feature of this program.  I looked in the repo, but OpenGL does not seem to have it's own package, so I figure that it is part of the video driver.  How do 
[05:53] <Ben64> Technicus: you could try the closed source driver
[05:53] <Trihope> anybody available to help a noob out?
[05:54] <stiltzkin> Trihope, sure what's up
[05:54] <Technicus> What are you trying to du/ubderstand Trihope?
[05:54] <Aftermath> pfifo, on 10.10 the file is called asound.state.conf
[05:54] <Trihope> i'm installing for the first time and want to see if there is a way to make sure I don't overwrite files (dual boot with windows 7)
[05:55] <Technicus> Ben64; I was thinking of trying that, is it a messy transition?
[05:55] <Ben64> Technicus: shouldn't be
[05:55] <Aftermath> or rather that file is the file in that directory
[05:55] <MethedMan> dboyd2: thanks.  not working in vlc.  works in mplayer but without sound.  are there certain codes to install for mplayer?
[05:55] <KM0201> Trihope, yes, pay attention.
[05:55] <Technicus> Aftermath; what are you doing with the asound.conf?
[05:56] <stiltzkin> Trihope, as long as you use the partitioner correctly you shouldn't be in danger of overwriting files. That said, make frequent backups.
[05:56] <pfifo> Aftermath, mine has no conf... but im on xubuntu, not sure but its allowed to have a different name at any rate
[05:56] <dboyd2> how can i tell if a network card is really dead?
[05:56] <Aftermath> its just asound.state
[05:56] <Aftermath> no conf
[05:56] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: What do you mean?
[05:57] <Aftermath> i renamed it and am rebooting
[05:57] <pfifo> ok
[05:57] <dboyd2> well i don't get any lights on this integrated nic
[05:57] <dboyd2> but i get it's mac address
[05:57] <KXTwo> Im taking a unix class and having some difficulties with scripts, anyone feel like helping?
[05:57] <hiexpo> dboyd2, give it mouth to mouth if after 60 seconds it's a gonner
[05:57] <dboyd2> and ubuntu sees it
[05:57] <Technicus> Trihope; If you are trying it for the first time, you can start the install from Windows, and it will install into a Windows partition.
[05:57] <dboyd2> funny heixpo
[05:57] <Some_Person> dboyd2: Ask it "Are you dead?"
[05:57] <korejora> How big should my swap partition be if I have 4GB of RAM?
[05:57] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Hmm. Do you have another OS to try it on?
[05:57] <dboyd2> i was wondering is there anything i can do to check and make sure it's really dead
[05:57] <dboyd2> short of trying another os
[05:58] <pfifo> korejora, 8GB or larger
[05:58] <[V13]Axel> korejora: You shouldn't NEED one, but you should go around 2GB.
[05:58] <Some_Person> dboyd2: <serious> Tried it with another cable?
[05:58] <stiltzkin> So does anyone know of any alternative ways to route traffic from specific applications (whether in wine or otherwise) through an HTTP proxy, besides the environment variable? I need a stronger solution than that - something that's not an optional flag. iptables or something, idk
[05:58] <Trihope> sorry having a hard to focusing with all the conversations
[05:58] <KM0201> korejora, general rule of thumb is 2x your physical ram.
[05:58] <korejora> Okay, one of those answers was not like the other.
[05:58] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Best idea is to try another OS.
[05:58] <korejora> Others.
[05:58] <Trihope> @technicus are there disadvantages to that?
[05:59] <KXTwo> Im taking a unix class and having some difficulties with scripts, anyone feel like helping?
[05:59] <[V13]Axel> korejora: With 4GB of RAM, you won't need a swap partition unless you're doing a bullshitload of work at once.
[05:59] <Trihope> i have always heard of a seperate partition
[05:59] <KM0201> korejora, one person said 8gigs, i said "2x your physical ram"... you have 4gigs.. 4x2=8  how were they different?
[05:59] <hiexpo> try it on a live os and what card is it  dboyd2
[05:59] <KXTwo> korejora Axel is right, I have 3 on my laptop and have no issues, just dont hibernate
[05:59] <korejora> @KM0201 - Axel said "You shouldn't need one, but go with ~2GB."
[05:59] <pfifo> korejora, should is 2x the size of the ram, but to be reaal, youll never touch a single byte of it unless you compile chromium from source with -ggdb
[05:59] <[V13]Axel> KM0201: I told him 2GB-- With 4GB of RAM, you don't need that much.
[05:59] <Technicus> Trihope; the install will be fully functional, however Ubuntu will not have it's own partition.
[05:59] <Flannel> With that much RAM, you generally don't need 2X, 1X would be if you planned on hibernating, and you may be able to survive with 0X if you want
[05:59] <Some_Person> dboyd2: Well, usually the lights should come on regardless of the OS -- but maybe it's a weird card
[06:00] <Aftermath> pfifo
[06:00] <Aftermath> renaming tha file and rebooting fixed it
[06:00] <Aftermath> wtf
[06:00] <Aftermath> lol
[06:00] <KM0201> [V13]Axel, thats not entirely accurate... if he's using suspend/hibernate, he'll needed that swap
[06:00] <KXTwo> I dont think im getting any script help lol
[06:00] <pfifo> !yay | Aftermath, HAHA
[06:00] <korejora> Well, I have like 400+ GB on the Ubuntu partition alone, so it doesn't really matter to me how big it is. It is on a laptop, though.
[06:00] <Aftermath> ima start renaming files that dont work more often
[06:00] <Aftermath> lol
[06:00] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Different driver model, MIGHT work. It's worth a try.
[06:01] <pfifo> Aftermath, its porbbally someone trying to fix audio being muted by default for similiar chipsets
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; I avoid dual booting with Windows, because sometimes it likes to be a bully and mess with the boot loader.
[06:01] <[V13]Axel> korejora: If you're hibernating a lot, go with just over 4GB. If you're not, don't worry about it and go with as much as you want.
[06:01] <KM0201> korejora, then just to be safe(in case you start hibernating, etc.. make it 8gigs)
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; it does work though.
[06:01] <Afteraffekt> yay
[06:01] <Afteraffekt> pfifo thanks alot for your help
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; do you have a single hard drive, or multiple?
[06:01] <zerothis> can remote desktop. My vnc ports are forwarded internal, external, both types, to my local ip. nmap reports them open. Remote desktop reports only local usually, once in a while it reports my outside IP for a short time but then revers right in front of my eyes.
[06:01] <pfifo> sure thing
[06:02] <KXTwo> Does anyone want to help a novice with a script?
[06:02] <[V13]Axel> KXTwo: I'd help if I weren't a novice as well-- But what do you need to do with said script?
[06:02] <zerothis> can't remote desktop, rather
[06:02] <korejora> Okay, other than the swap, should I just allocate the rest to the main partition "/"?
[06:02] <Technicus> Trihope; if you have a single harddrive, how many partitions are on it?
[06:03] <[V13]Axel> korejora: It's recommended to set aside another partition to /home/, so if you need to reinstall the OS, you won't have to backup your home folders. You can simply reinstall the OS and set that partition as the /home/ folder.
[06:03] <Technicus> Trihope; if you do not have sufficient space for an install . . . you will have to shrink a partition . . . that is where thing can get messy.
[06:03] <KXTwo> wellt here are several questions but to start:  If on a command line I type " ready directory" then enter "text" and then echo $directory it gives me "text" but if I do the same thing via script it echos a blank line?
[06:04] <korejora> In that case, should I set aside a small partition for the OS, and allocate the rest to /home/, or the other way around?
[06:04] <KXTwo> [V13]Axel,  wellt here are several questions but to start:  If on a command line I type " ready directory" then enter "text" and then echo $directory it gives me "text" but if I do the same thing via script it echos a blank line?
[06:05] <[V13]Axel> KXTwo: Send me a private message about it-- We'll spam the main channel otherwise.
[06:05] <Technicus> Trihope; I've got to go . . . hope you can get your dual boot working.
[06:05] <Some_Person> KXTwo: use "directory=text" and "echo $directory"
[06:05] <esquilax> anyone have any thoughts on my ~ on whois?  I have oidentd running and the port is forwarded to it and if i telnet to it, it works and responds, but anytime i connect to an irc server, there isnt even a request
[06:05] <Some_Person> KXTwo: without quotes
[06:06] <KXTwo> Some_Person, I cant because I need a user to be able to enter a directory then I store it in a variable
[06:06] <KXTwo> I already got one script working perfectly but for some reason even the basics on this one is not working for me
[06:07] <korejora> Should I allocate the majority of my space to "/", or to "/home"?
[06:07] <Some_Person> KXTwo: then you want "read directory"
[06:08] <pfifo> korejora, /home would probbally be more suitable for most people
[06:08] <KXTwo> Some_Person, yes that much I do know, when I put that in my script then echo it, I get a blank line.  Unlike if I do it manually where it actually echos the directory I want
[06:08] <Some_Person> KXTwo: strange, it works for me
[06:08] <korejora> @pfifo - Then how much should I give to the main partition "/"? 5 GB? 10? 30?
[06:08] <KXTwo> Some_Person, if I type read directory then enter "/home, then cd $directory it works fine, but its not working in my script even though its written the same way and yes I am using bash
[06:10] <pfifo> korejora, ubuntu needs at minimum 4, 10 would be good more if you really want to spare it but you might not need it
[06:10] <erict15> a
[06:10] <Some_Person> KXTwo: So you have "read directory" and "echo $directory" in your script?
[06:10] <korejora> @pfifo - I have more space than I could possibly use, so I'd rather err on the side of giving it too much space.
[06:11] <pfifo> korejora, 20 is way overkill but if you have it you might as well
[06:11] <KXTwo> Some_Person, ive not even gotten into the deeper part of the script.  I simply have: line1: #!/bin/bash, line2: read directory, line3 cd $directory.  I enter the directory but nothing happens it just stays where it is, then when I echo the $directory is blank
[06:12] <korejora> Do you know what type I should use, i.e. ext4 or whichever?
[06:12] <pfifo> korejora, ext3 is a bit more mature
[06:12] <Some_Person> KXTwo: That's expected. When you execute it, it runs in a new instance of bash, so when it exits $directory is undefined and the current directory is whatever it was before
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, omg I was just thinking that
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, so when im done with the script bash is reset
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, that explains why when I just did a manual echo I got it from when I was doing it manually
[06:14] <korejora> @pfifo - So do you think I should use ext3, then, seeing as how this would be pretty much my first time using a Linux system?
[06:14] <erict15> hi
[06:14] <erict15> what
[06:14] <rand_u> does anybody know how to list my available printers in the terminal?
[06:14] <Some_Person> KXTwo: When the script is done, the instance of bash it's running in exits, and you're thrown back to where you were.
[06:15] <Some_Person> KXTwo: So if you use $directory or change directory in your script, it will work as expected, but not when you get back to the console afterwards
[06:15] <KXTwo> Some_Person, ok  so why isnt this working my script is in /home/kkrauss1/scripts.  my script(titled crazy2) is coded echo "please enter directory", read directory, cd $directory.  But if I enter /home it doesnt change to it
[06:16] <pfifo> korejora, well if you dont have a specific reason to use one over the other then they are all pretty much doing the same task
[06:16] <korejora> @pfifo - Okay, thanks.
[06:16] <Some_Person> KXTwo: Same problem. It did change directories, but didn't do anything with it. Then the script exited, and you ended up with your previous bash session. If you add "touch somefile" as the last line, it will create a file called "somefile" in $directory
[06:17] <KXTwo> Some_Person, so I have to finish the rest of the script, I cant test it the way I expected.  This was never explained in the book.  This is the assignment: 7. 	Write a script to do the following:
[06:17] <KXTwo> 	a.	Display a 4 line histogram of all the files in a given directory, sized to fit a standard screen.
[06:17] <KXTwo> b.	Prompt the user for a directory, capture it into a variable and change to that directory in your script.
[06:17] <KXTwo> c.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase a-g, store that number in a variable.
[06:17] <KXTwo> d.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase h-m, store that number in another variable.
[06:17] <FloodBot2> KXTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <KXTwo> e.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase n-s, store that number in another variable.
[06:17] <korejora> What's the difference between a primary and logical partition?
[06:18] <Some_Person> KXTwo: I'm not doing your homework for you
[06:18] <NightMonkey> KXTwo: Ah, homework?
[06:18] <KXTwo> Some_Person, Im not asking you to
[06:19] <pfifo> korejora, you can only have 4 primary partitions, one of which may be a 'extended partition' and contain additional logical partitions (for a maximum of 32 partitions)
[06:19] <KXTwo> but thanks for assuming :)
[06:19] <Sample> so with screen.. if you close your terminal window (or detach via Ctrl+a d).. and you ssh back in and do 'screen' but NOT 'screen -r' .. what happens to that original session? does it die/go away/get overwritten ?
[06:19] <Some_Person> KXTwo: You can also use "echo $PWD" to echo the current directory
[06:19] <NightMonkey> Sample: A second screen session is created, with a different session ID.
[06:20] <Sample> whoa
[06:20] <SLruan> how to creat a live usb of debian ?
[06:20] <korejora> @pfifo - So should I be telling it to make all of these (my swap, my main "/" and my file "/home" partitions) logical partitions?
[06:20] <KXTwo> Some_Person, well you explaining how everything happens inside the bash I call explains a lot, now I just need to figure out how to count the files from a-g etc etc
[06:20] <Sample> NightMonkey: k that's interesting.. so say then that you have a few screen sessions.. how do you get a list of all of them when you first enter a terminal?
[06:20] <SLruan> How to creat a live usb of debian
[06:20] <Some_Person> KXTwo: good luck. I'm going to bed now
[06:20] <NightMonkey> Sample: Just try running screen, detaching, running screen, then try reattaching, and you'll see that screen asks you which session to attach.
[06:21] <Sample> i see
[06:21] <Sample> neat, thanks
[06:21] <bazhang> SLruan, likely the same as in ubuntu ; unetbootin #debian for support
[06:21] <NightMonkey> Sample: Sure. Screen rocks.
[06:21] <erict15> .
[06:21] <DaPenguin> screen is my DE :)
[06:21] <erict15> whoops
[06:21] <bazhang> erict15, please stop that
[06:21] <rigved> SLruan: System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator. <-- use this to create the debian live usb
[06:22] <pfifo> korejora, if your going to be using all of your harddrive for 3 partitions then you dont NEED and extended and logicals, so all primary would work.... or another option is to make / and swap primary partitions, and then have /home as a logical. either way there isnt too much of a difference
[06:22] <hiexpo> SLruan, dd
[06:23] <MacByte> hello
[06:23] <Sample> NightMonkey: and say I do "screen" on accident instead of "screen -r" and end up creating myself a new session, how do I fully kill that one rather than simply detaching it and keeping it around next time I "screen -r"
[06:23] <pfifo> korejora, you may want to reserve a partition for a second install and dual boot
[06:23] <SLruan> How to do this  in  windows ?
[06:23] <bazhang> SLruan, ##windows
[06:23] <MacByte> i am having an issue with flash playback issues on ubuntu... when watching youtube videos the video stutters and then repeats a clip while the video is frozen and then completely dies out... any ideas what I can do?
[06:24] <NightMonkey> Sample: Well, the better way to rid yourself of screen sessions is to attach to them, then exit all the virtual terminals one by one.
[06:24] <Sample> NightMonkey: by just typing 'exit' in there?
[06:24] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, if you accidentally type "screen" when you meant "screen -r", just type "exit" immediately, and you'll be good.
[06:25] <Sample> gotcha, this is awesome
[06:25] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep.
[06:25] <Sample> thanks for the clarifications
[06:25] <NightMonkey> Sample: If you happen to *kill* screen, it might leave detritus around for session files, but you'll get a warning about that, explaining what to do.
[06:26] <Eliezer> is there a driver for atheros in monitor mode ?
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: Note that if you decide to be mean and just kill screen yourself, it will kill all child sessions.
[06:26] <rigved> SLruan: there are free softwares available online for windows as well. these can create live usb systems. just google it.
[06:26] <MacByte> any ideas?...
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: (kill with a "kill -9", for example)
[06:26] <Sample> gotcha
[06:26] <SLruan> If i use a microSDHC to creat live usb instead usb,OK?
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: When you get really into screen, take a look at "multiuser screen".
[06:27] <hiexpo> Eliezer, what you trying to do why you want monitor mode
[06:27] <Sample> by child sessions do you mean all other sessions, or just the 'pseudo terminals' (for lack of a better word) within that session (which has that PID that you killed)
[06:27] <NightMonkey> Sample: And I always set up a large scrollback buffer in screen for sessions, and a nice status bar.
[06:27] <NightMonkey> Sample: Psuedo terminals, yes.
[06:27] <Sample> NightMonkey: i'd love a status bar actually, how do you get one? So far I do the Ctrl+a w to get a bit of one
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: Here's mine:
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: caption always " %w --- %c:%s"
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: In .screenrc in my $HOME.
[06:28] <korejora> While installing Ubuntu, it's asking me which device to use for the boot loader installation. What does that mean?
[06:28] <Sample> NightMonkey: sweet/interesting i'll give that a look
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: And one more line:
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: termcapinfo  * '' 'hs:ts=\E_:fs=\E\\:ds=\E_\E\\'
[06:29] <Sample> what's that one?
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: To set the scrollback: defscrollback 65535
[06:29] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) i want to avoid or reduce interferences in my network
[06:29] <Sample> what's the termcapinfo
[06:29] <pfifo> korejora, a bootload is designed to alloe you to choose different options for booting, normally youll install to /dev/sda unless you have a reason to install it elsewhere or not at all.
[06:30] <Sample> NightMonkey: also are there any problems/performance or memory issues/etc with a huge scrollback?
[06:31] <hiexpo> Eliezer, so what does monitor mode have to do with that what ap you trying to use that requires monitor mode ?
[06:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: You could lessen the scrollback to taste. I haven't had any, even on my Sheevaplug. ;)
[06:31] <korejora> @pfifo -- The space I'm allocating to Ubuntu is all on "/dev/sdc". Should I put the boot loader in the same place?
[06:31] <Sample> I'ven't a clue what a sheevaplug is
[06:32] <Sample> oh i looked it up, haha. that's cool
[06:32] <NightMonkey> Sample: The termcapinfo line is fixes some character display issues, IIRC.
[06:32] <pfifo> korejora, do you currently have windows or another OS on your computer?
[06:32] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) im having problems in regular mode connecting
[06:32] <Sample> NightMonkey: could you give me an example just so I have an idea?
[06:32] <weez> Hi, Does anyone know how I could turn a bunch of still images into a video?
[06:33] <Eliezer> so i figure switching mabe help
[06:33] <korejora> @pfifo -- Yes. I have something like 400+ GB devoted to Windows 7, and this other partition, also over 400 GB, I'm devoting to Ubuntu.
[06:33] <Sample> NightMonkey: also this may be a silly question but screen doesn't allow for accidental nesting or anything crazy right? i dont want to try it but im basically saying, what if you don't realize youre in screen and do 'screen'
[06:33] <NightMonkey> Sample: It's been a while since I mucked with my screenrc. I also set up a reattach password, but that might be too paranoid. It does mean, however, that someone who gets root on your box can't as easily su - into your account and attach.
[06:33] <pfifo> korejora, do you mean disk drive?
[06:33] <NightMonkey> Sample: I did. :)
[06:33] <aaron_wayne> can someone tell me how to add a line?
[06:34] <hiexpo> Eliezer, well monitor mode will not solve that issue > if you explain exactly what it is you are trying to do maybe someone can or will help you
[06:34] <Sample> i mean as far as what characters have display issues
[06:34] <korejora> @pfifo - I don't think so, but it's possible I just don't know.
[06:34] <sss314> How can I temporarily stop GNOME and use a text terminal?
[06:34] <NightMonkey> Sample: That's why I have a status line. But, yes, you could screen yourself into a tizzy, Russian Doll style.
[06:34] <kaushal> hi
[06:34] <kaushal> anyone using terminator ?
[06:34] <Sample> lol okay
[06:34] <hiexpo> !hello | kaushal
[06:35] <kaushal> hiexpo: hi
[06:35] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) http://pastebin.com/5ZtggRZf
[06:35] <aaron_wayne> http://imagebin.org/148633
[06:35] <kaushal> Can someone recommend good terminal application ?
[06:35] <KXTwo> I know how to use the read command to write something to a variable but how do you output something like ls to a variable
[06:35] <NightMonkey> kaushal: rxvt-unicode.
[06:35] <hiexpo> kaushal, feel free to ask your ?  and after wait till someone that may help you will
[06:36] <bhavesh> aaron_wayne: with gedit?
[06:36] <kaushal> NightMonkey: ok
[06:36] <hiexpo> Eliezer, works fine
[06:37] <NightMonkey> kaushal: Eterm.
[06:37] <kaushal> is there a shortcut key to focus the cursor to the first tab,I mean i do ssh IP1 term1 and then so and so forth so lets say if i need to work on term3
[06:37] <pfifo> korejora, sometimes installing a bootloader can cause problems with the manufacturer system restore utility, if your window is on /dev/sda, you can probbally install a bootloader on /dev/sdc and then use your bios to swithc hard drive priority. If your not worried about a system restore utility you can install on /dev/sda (your first hard drive) and it will allow you to choose between ubuntu and windows at boot time.
[06:37] <kaushal> so how do i focus it ?
[06:37] <grendal-prime> hey guys i have a machine in the living room and i want to watch movies from its dvd player onto my netbook.  Ive used vlc to do this but i want to not have to run the desktop on that mchine
[06:37] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) you mean that i dont need anny driver for monitor mode,,just typing what i type works for me
[06:37] <aaron_wayne> bhavesh, so is it just literally a line of text that i would save to that dir?
[06:38] <grendal-prime> i guess what im asking is ...is there a streaming solution where i can login via an http or curses console?
[06:38] <anthony_2409> has anyone here tried using plank?
[06:39] <bhavesh_> sorry I went offline before?
[06:39] <bhavesh_> remove that "?"
[06:39] <kaushal> is there a shortcut key to focus the cursor to the first tab,I mean i do ssh IP1 term1 and then so and so forth so lets say if i need to work on term3,
[06:40] <hiexpo> Eliezer, nope atheros is okthat is a 5kcardso your fine you just need to go to aircrack-ng site and read the wikis on how it works and how to use it is all you just entered the wrong command and me or anyone else in this channel or aircrack-ng is gonnaspoon feed you on that
[06:40] <weez> Hi, Does anyone know how I could turn a bunch of still images into a video?
[06:40] <enovativ> i am trying to set up the wireless on my XPS m1530, and I have used lspci and determine that it is a Broadcom chipset, and I installed and configured wl.ko, and no success
[06:40] <aaron_wayne> or a better question i guess would be, what is the easiest way to install tor proxy?
[06:40] <korejora> @pfifo - Okay, thanks for your help.
[06:40] <Sample> NightMonkey: so having created a .screenrc in my /home/myname directory I don't see anything new going on in screen, do I need to like... 'reboot' the app or something? or perhaps does my screen not care to look in my home directory for that file?
[06:40] <pfifo> korejora, no problem
[06:40] <enovativ> i then install ndiswrapper and installed the windows driver Bcm43xx (inf file) and no success
[06:40] <bhavesh_> weez: group them into a animated gif image
[06:40] <NightMonkey> grendal-prime: If you connect to that box via "ssh -Y <host>", you can run vlc, and the window will be forwarded to your netbook. (Assuming your netbook is running X.)
[06:41] <Eliezer> hiexpo:)  ok thanks
[06:41] <bhavesh_> is there any way to decrease the size of all ubuntu desktop icons..?
[06:41] <hiexpo> Eliezer, no problem and you dont need a driver the ubuntu one works fine
[06:41] <bhavesh_> the option in preferences reduce them from 100% to 66% directly
[06:42] <bhavesh_> but I need something like 75 - 80%
[06:42] <weez> bhavesh_: I was hoping for something more along the lines of a mkv or avi file. This might be a little too big for a gif.
[06:42] <NightMonkey> Sample: You have to start a new screen session to see anything.
[06:42] <korejora> @pfifo -- Is there anything on Ubuntu that the boot loader could interfere with, or is it safe to put it on the same drive and change the boot priority?
[06:42] <NightMonkey> Sample: .screenrc is only read on startup.
[06:42] <Sample> NightMonkey: hm does screen know to look in the $HOME ? when I 'screen -r' things look the same as before the file
[06:43] <gartral> umm.. how do i initiate a distrobution jump? isnt it "update-manager -d"?
[06:43] <Sample> mlocate screenrc shows one in /usr/share/doc/screen/examples/
[06:43] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, you need to run a *completely* new screen to read .screenrc. Detached sessions aren't new.
[06:43] <grendal-prime> NightMonkey, ya but man that chews up a lot of bandwidth and then if i cluse the ssh connection i believe the app shuts down.
[06:43] <NightMonkey> grendal-prime: Yes.
[06:43] <aaron_wayne> any recommendations?
[06:44] <enovativ> can anyone hel wtih a wirelss problem on a dell xps m1530 with a broadcom chipset
[06:44] <grendal-prime> remote admin is not the problem..i think there is probably a web front end for this somewhere.
[06:44] <pfifo> korejora, ubuntu is designed to work seamlessly with a bootloader, if you are paranoid you should make a backup of your mbr that you could restore later if there is any problems. http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[06:44] <Sample> NightMonkey: ohh okay. so you have to manually end and then re-create your session if you make a change to the screenrc?
[06:44] <enovativ> can anyone help with a wireless problem on a dell xps m1530 with a broadcom chipset ?
[06:44] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep.
[06:44] <enovativ> i have installed wl.ko , no success
[06:45] <enovativ> i install ndiswrapper, restart, and then installed windows driver, no success
[06:45] <Sample> NightMonkey: also should I be taking the one thats in /usr/share/doc/screen/examples/ ,copying it to my $HOME, and then adding your 3 lines? it seems like the example one is pretty full-featured with auto detach and whatnot
[06:45] <NightMonkey> Sample: Does /etc/screenrc exist on the machine you're running screen on?
[06:45] <Sample> let me check
[06:45] <aaron_wayne> any help, with tor proxy?
[06:46] <hiexpo> !tor
[06:46] <rigved> so, if i use X11Forwarding in ssh, does that mean that the process is actually being executed on the remote machine but i am seeing the display in my own machine? this is in reference to what NightMonkey said above^^
[06:46] <Sample> NightMonkey: ah yep looks like there is one there
[06:46] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, for me, keeping a very simple .screenrc in my $HOME is good, and then I trust the /etc/screenrc to do "sensible" stuff.
[06:47] <Sample> okay gotcha. I didn't know that it had a 'master' screenrc and that it would read "additional bits" from my $HOME .screenrc
[06:47] <gartral> update-manager -c is not showing the 11.04 upgrade, how do i force it?
[06:47] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, do read the examples! :)
[06:47] <Sample> im a total linux newb
[06:47] <Sample> but enjoying it much thus far =)
[06:47] <korejora> @pfifo -- I think it'll be fine. Thanks again for all of your help.
[06:47] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yeah, /etc/screenrc first, then $HOME/.screenrc.
[06:47] <pfifo> of course
[06:48] <NightMonkey> Funny, wonder why tor isn't in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <rigved> gartral: 11.04 has not yet been released. it will release on 28th April. you can update from 10.10 to 11.04 after 28th April. please ask all 11.04 questions on #ubuntu+1 till then
[06:49] <NightMonkey> rigved: You got it.
[06:49] <Nuge> I've always been bothered by the duplicate options in the grub menu. Anyone know how to resolve this glitch?
[06:49] <rigved> NightMonkey: what, is this in reference to my X11 question?
[06:50] <NightMonkey> rigved: That's the one you directed at me, yep. :)
[06:50] <rigved> NightMonkey: oh ok. thanks! :)
[06:51] <Sample> NightMonkey: hmm I just tried running 'moc player' though screen and instead of getting the straight lines (borders) around the window it uses as a sort of terminal GUI.. I get a's with ^ over them. is this a product of the character issues you mentioned or am i for some fundamental reason i dont grasp not supposed to run an app like that in screen?
[06:51] <Shield> @Nuge:  How-to-geek has a walk through on where you need to go to clean up the grub boot loader.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[06:51] <Awolf_> Greetings all
[06:51] <NightMonkey> Sample: One reason I keep my .screenrc simple, and maybe wasn't so careful in the past, is that I had a few <facepalms> after setting up tons of sessions for work, only to find some setting made screen fall short.
[06:52] <bhavesh> do I need swap partitions if I have 2GB of RAM (sorry for asking again)
[06:52] <NightMonkey> Sample: Try running the app with "TERM=rxvt-unicode <app>" instead.
[06:52] <Awolf_> What does it take to become a programmer
[06:52] <Awolf_> ?
[06:52] <weez> Nuge: You can edit the config - location depends on your ubuntu version, or there is a graphical program called grub cutomizer - info at http://goo.gl/hbPxU
[06:52] <bhavesh> Awolf_ programming..?
[06:52] <Sample> NightMonkey: what's that do? set a variable on the system and then run the app?
[06:52] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might not have a complete termcap db. Screen sets TERM to "screen", which doesn't do line art.
[06:52] <Shield> @Nuge:  My bad the link I posted in my reply was for the grub boot loader from Ubuntu 9.04 and older.  Go to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[06:52] <Awolf_> Yeah Bhavesh
[06:53] <Awolf_> where do I start
[06:53] <rigved> bhavesh: you need a swap partition always. this is part of the standard linux partition system.
[06:53] <Awolf_> ?
[06:53] <pfifo> Awolf_, a text editor and compiler/intrepreter/assembler and time
[06:53] <Sample> NightMonkey: i dont know what complete termcap db means O_O
[06:53] <bhavesh> rigved: but I have 4 swap partitions..
[06:53] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep. Try "echo $TERM" outside screen, then inside screen.
[06:53] <bhavesh> rigved: this is my partition setup, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594737/
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: TERM is a special shell variable which, by convention, informs programs of what kind of
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: terminal it is run under.
[06:54] <pfifo> bhavesh, you dont NEED a swap but its recommended, and standard is usually 2x your RAM, but you probbally wont use it.
[06:54] <Sample> so would "TERM=rxvt-unicode <app>" mean set the TERM variable differently on my system and then run the app.. or does it mean, run the app and pass it a TERM variable with this value but don't alter the original
[06:54] <rigved> Awolf_: check out http://www.codechef.com
[06:54] <Nuge> Thanks, weez.
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: By doing 'TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>', you are temporarilty setting a new TERM.
[06:55] <NightMonkey> s/temporarilty/temporarily/
[06:55] <Awolf_> thank you Rigved
[06:55] <Sample> by temporarily what do you mean exactly in terms of duration (how temporary)
[06:55] <rigved> Awolf_: you are welcome
[06:55] <bhavesh> pfifo: but does it seem that I have assigned a lot more swap space than required ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/594737/)
[06:56] <NightMonkey> Sample: Only for that app you're running on the same line.
[06:56] <Sample> k
[06:56] <rigved> bhavesh: yes, that one too many
[06:56] <bhavesh> rigved: ok so I need to unwap my 3 partitions..
[06:56] <bhavesh> ?
[06:56] <rigved> bhavesh: you only need one swap partition
[06:56] <NightMonkey> Sample: To make it "permanent" for that terminal session, you'd type 'export TERM="rxvt-unicode"'. But try it first before doing that.
[06:57] <bhavesh> rigved: unsawp and format them?
[06:57] <pfifo> bhavesh, imo you have made a mess of your partition table. but if you have the resoure to spare its not going to hurt anything
[06:57] <NightMonkey> Sample: And later to make it even more permanent, should apps "look right", then you'd add it to .bash_profile or .bashrc.
[06:57] <bhavesh> pfifo: I need to rearrange the stuff... dunno what to do exactly
[06:57] <Sample> whoa okay thats a lot to parse
[06:58] <pfifo> bhavesh, its probbally more trouble than its worth unless wor willing to delete everything and start over
[06:58] <rigved> bhavesh: first check which swap partition your linux OS is using from /etc/fstab. then use 'sudo swapoff'. format the other swap partitions that you do not use and run 'sudo swapon'.
[06:58] <gaelfx> I need to copy a /home folder from an old install over to a new install  on a separate disk, what's the best way to do it?
[06:58] <bhavesh> rigved: k
[06:59] <bhavesh> ill download gparted
[06:59] <Awolf_> Rigved that is one hell of a site I'm out to start my life Thanks a lot yet again.
[06:59] <Sample> NightMonkey: just for clarification, when you say export TERM do you mean doing 'export TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>'
[06:59] <Sample> just like the original way you mentioned
[06:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: This might also be useful for you: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/screen-terminal-emulator-cheat-sheet/
[06:59] <rigved> Awolf_: :)
[06:59] <pfifo> !best | gaelfx
[06:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, no, that's later.
[06:59] <Nuge> weez, what is the difference between generic and generic-pae?
[06:59] <gaelfx> I need to copy a /home folder from an old install over to a new install  on a separate disk, what's the EASIEST way to do it?
[07:00] <NightMonkey> Sample: Just 'TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>', just to see that that's the right TERM for you (there's a few to try to fix your lineart issue.)
[07:00] <Sample> okay
[07:00] <pfifo> gaelfx, i would say tarball it and burn it to a cd, unless it is huge then rsync over a network becomes an otpiton
[07:01] <Heylookitsbret> is there a way to extend the gnome menu to two monitors?
[07:01] <weez> Nuge: can you be a bit more specific?
[07:01] <gaelfx> pfifo: way too huge for tarring and burning, ca I rsync if I put them both in the same machine?
[07:02] <Guest29867> Can the gnu c compiler be run on Eclipse  anyone here done that?
[07:02] <pfifo> gaelfx, if you can move both drives to the same machine then the copy command is the easiest
[07:02] <gaelfx> pfifo: will that take care of hidden files and whatnot?
[07:03] <Nuge> Weez, on the grub menu, there's an entry that is Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae and Linux 2.6.38-8-generic along with their respective recovery modes.
[07:03] <pfifo> Guest29867, yes eclipse supports gcc, g++ and the objective c options that i know of
[07:03] <Guest29867> <--need sample test code beyond "helloworld" that works
[07:03] <Jordan_U> !pae | Nuge
[07:05] <pfifo> gaelfx, with the correct switch, i usually do `sudo cp -a /home/pfifo /mnt/pfifo` you could also leave offf the username to copy more than one user
[07:05] <weez> Nuge: I believe that pae lets 32 bit computers use more RAM, like a 64 bit. Dont quote me on that though.
[07:05] <weez> Nuge:I see that ubottu agrees
[07:05] <Nuge> Jordan_U, thank you.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Nuge: You're welcome.
[07:06] <Sample> NightMonkey: when I ran screen with that TERM command it said "aborted because of window size change" or something similar
[07:06] <pfifo> gaelfx, rsync is perfectly fine if your already familiar
[07:06] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might need to increase the size of your terminal window, since screen takes a line off the bottom.
[07:06] <NightMonkey> Sample: (I'm don't know your program "moc"...)
[07:06] <Sample> oh oh okay
[07:07] <Sample> i think i know what i did wrong
[07:07] <Sample> i was trying to run screen itself through that TERM command
[07:07] <Sample> not just the moc player
[07:07] <Guest29867> ...oh yeah..."anyone here on an IBM POWER7 system?"
[07:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, yeah, that's backwards. ;)
[07:07] <Sample> but alas that didnt fix it
[07:08] <Sample> made things look a bit crazy in fact =P
[07:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: The TERM stuff is to change the value of TERM within the screen session.
[07:08] <Sample> ohhh
[07:08] <Sample> ok
[07:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, okay, another to try is the value your terminal sets. So, to find that, type 'echo $TERM' in a non-screen-ified terminal.
[07:09] <Sample> xterm
[07:09] <Sample> but doing TERM='xterm' mocp still no luck
[07:09] <NightMonkey> Sample: OK, great. You normally run moc through an xterm?
[07:09] <Sample> the terminal-based UI border that should appear as ---- appears as ââââ
[07:10] <Sample> yes
[07:10] <Sample> i guess
[07:10] <Sample> moc is a terminal based music player/library
[07:11] <NightMonkey> Sample: Weird. Get rid of that termcap line I suggested. See if that helps.
[07:11] <tux19> what is the ubuntu chat room
[07:12] <NightMonkey> tux19: What is the tux19?
[07:12]  * PurpleSmoke is away: Away
[07:12] <tux19> whats the chat room
[07:12] <yo> i hate unity and gnome 3 whats alternatives
[07:12] <Sample> very zen
[07:13] <rww> !away > PurpleSmoke
[07:13] <rww> tux19: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for non-support chatter.
[07:14] <tux19> thanks i just wanted the now the chat room
[07:14] <pfifo> yo, there are many, kde, xfce4 are other popular options, you should still be able to use gnome2 for a while longer as well
[07:14] <Sample> tux19 does not pass the turning test
[07:14] <NightMonkey> Sample: Heh! :)
[07:15] <Heylookitsbret> can anybody help me create a network bridge?
[07:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: Oh, and I have a better caption line for you:
[07:15] <bot_killer> can anyone suggest a good compilation tool? I'm new to linux, and I'm looking for something easy and efficient
[07:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: caption always " %?%F%{.R.}%?%3n [%h]%?"
[07:15] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: gcc. Quite popular.
[07:15] <yo> ayuda
[07:16] <yo> ayuda
[07:16] <bot_killer> oh sorry I meant configuration and make tool?
[07:16] <bot_killer> I have certain C codes
[07:16] <bot_killer> I want it all to get installed
[07:16] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: autoconf?
[07:16] <pfifo> bot_killer, what does the package require?
[07:16] <bot_killer> yes I read about it in wikipedia... do you think that's good?
[07:17] <bot_killer> the wiki page was very critical about it
[07:17] <bot_killer> said it was old and did unnecesarry things
[07:17] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: Sounds like me.
[07:17] <bot_killer> pfifo what do you mean?
[07:17] <bot_killer> I have some basic C programs
[07:17] <Jordan_U> bot_killer: What are you trying to install?
[07:17] <bot_killer> that use certain libraries like fftw
[07:17] <Heylookitsbret> i went an enabled the ipv4 tab to share to other computers, and its still not working? any suggestions?
[07:17] <pfifo> bot_killer, what kind of tools are you currently using? and on what OS?
[07:18] <Ziber> I seem to have deleted the bottom panel showing the applications. How can I restore that? ubuntu 10.10...
[07:18] <Jordan_U> !resetpanel | Ziber
[07:18] <bot_killer> I'm writing my codes in C in ubuntu, and compiling it using g++ (gcc)
[07:18] <bot_killer> now I have a group of codes
[07:18] <bot_killer> (.C files)
[07:18] <bot_killer> and .o files
[07:19] <pfifo> bot_killer, but are they currently designed to work with anything special?
[07:19] <Ziber> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You're welcome.
[07:19] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: Yah, lots of folks like cmake.
[07:20] <bot_killer> they are designed to work using pipelining. example -    input.dat | myfile | output.dat
[07:20] <hiexpo> cmake is ok i use it
[07:20] <bot_killer> myfile will process the input file, perform certain operations (like the fourier transform), and output it in output.dat
[07:20] <bot_killer> ohk then cmake it is!
[07:20] <pfifo> bot_killer, you seem to be able to chose any option you want, autoconf is nice and mature, and the kids love cmake
[07:21] <bot_killer> I'll go with the kids :P
[07:22] <bot_killer> thanks a lot pfifo NightMonkey
[07:22] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: BTW, that criticism section on WP is pretty poorly sourced. Like everything, if you don't read the manual, things might break.
[07:22] <optidude> hey all
[07:22] <optidude> have a question,
[07:22] <sqqqrly> Hello channel
[07:23] <sqqqrly> anyone a screen expert?
[07:23] <optidude> what is the easiest way to install Ubuntu along side windows 7
[07:23] <sqqqrly> use a thumb drive
[07:23] <robbiethe1st> Opti: Uh, install W7, pop the Ubuntu CD in the drive and go from there?
[07:23] <sqqqrly> or vmware / vertualbox
[07:23] <Jordan_U> optidude: Follow the instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:23] <Ziber> anyone familiar with using compiz inside a virtualbox VM of ubuntu? trying to take a screenshot of the cube...
[07:24] <sqqqrly> k
[07:24] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: You want to take a screenshot of your (virtualized) ubuntu desktop?
[07:25] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: yes.
[07:26] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Um, you may be able to simply hit the printscreen key. Alternately, I like to install and use 'scrot'; it's a command-line tool and can be used for custom-screenshots etc.
[07:26] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: ive tried both of those. inside virtualbox, with 3d acceleration, they dont know what to do so they basically take a blank picture.
[07:26] <optidude> well I did that the first time around and I messed up my original partition with vista, so my question is when Ubuntu asked me to split the partitions I just say yes???
[07:27] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Scrot? really?
[07:27] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Mhm. I did scrot -d 10 -c ubuntu_ss.jpg, and positioned the cube how I wanted it.
[07:27] <HeliusCron> anyone here know Mint
[07:27] <Ziber> Gave me a blank picture.
[07:27] <robbiethe1st> That's odd...Something to do with the driver most likely
[07:27] <Jordan_U> optidude: Messed up how?
[07:27] <rww> !mintsupport > HeliusCron
[07:28] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: You have the 3D driver installed, right?
[07:28] <optidude> wrote over my vista install...LOL
[07:28] <HeliusCron> its empty lol
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Vbox didnt give me an error about it, so I imagine I do.
[07:28] <optidude> could not load back into vista... :-(
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: How would I confirm that?
[07:28] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: what I'd do is run "glxinfo".
[07:28] <bot_killer> robbiethe1st why don't u run unity, and then take a screenshot via windows... if that's possible
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: In the guest?
[07:28] <optidude> so i re-installed with win 7 and still wanted to put on Ubuntu
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Yes.
[07:29] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: alright, lets see here.
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> bot_killer: Uh, he didn't say he's running unity. Just compiz.
[07:29] <gaelfx> if I drag and drop my home folder to a new install, will the hidden files be copied as well, or do I need to use CLI for that?
[07:29] <optidude> so should i just reboot like i did the first time with Ubuntu and just make sure I seperate the partitions and will it give me a boot menu?
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> bot_killer: But the point still stands; it may be as much of a pain to do it that way what with it being somewhat accelerated... possibly
[07:29] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Got a crapload of output from that. WHat am I looking for specifcally?
[07:30] <ali_> hi
[07:30] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: If it doesn't give an error, look at the first few lines, including "direct rendering" and "server glx vendor"
[07:30] <Shield> optidude:  thats what I did about 3 hours ago
[07:30] <Ziber> 'direct rendering: yes'
[07:30] <optidude> shield: seperate the partitions?
[07:30] <ali_> hi
[07:30] <ruan> is ksplice-apply initrd.img-2.6.35-28-generic   correct syntax?
[07:30] <optidude> shield: that is what you did
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: then yea, it's using the VirtualBox driver. Why not try taking a screenshot from windows?
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> (or your host)
[07:31] <Shield> correct.  I made sure that I had a seporate partition for linux, and then booted to the CD i made
[07:31] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Because I cant keep the cube in place and take a screen shot. :(
[07:32] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: that would work (and did, for other effects), but the cube wont stay without my key bindings.
[07:32] <Shield> let it install, do it's updates, then installed the needed video drivers, and then rebooted.  No problems.  bootloader came up fine
[07:32] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Hm... You need a delayed screenshot tool;
[07:32] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Tried gimp on windows, didnt work :/
[07:32] <Shield> gave each install its own 1TB partition
[07:33] <optidude> hmmmm
[07:33] <optidude> well i already installed win 7.....does that already mess it up
[07:33] <Shield> nope
[07:33] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: http://code.google.com/p/zscreen/
[07:33] <optidude> can i repartition with Ubuntu?
[07:33] <Shield> I had win7 on my box before i did the dual boot
[07:34] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Back when I used Windows, I used that. It's great, and can have delayed screenshots
[07:34] <ejsejs> Hey, this may be a silly question, but my friend's computer is running ubuntu, and she is having problems.  I think pressing Fn F7 may help her.  What is the symbol of the Fn function of F7 here?  http://tftscdn.nexus404.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads2/2008/11/pink-aspire-one-aoa150-1949-detail.jpg
[07:34] <Shield> I didnt use ubuntu to repartiton I just went into the device manager, and shrunk the C:\
[07:34] <optidude> how did you do that?
[07:35] <optidude> sorry, never shrunk a partition before....
[07:35] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: It refuses to see anything inside the VM window, though... :/
[07:35] <Shield> go into the control panel, and then open the device manager
[07:35] <bot_killer> ejsejs are you searching for the f7 key on the keyboard you mean?
[07:35] <Ziber> Shows exactly what Virtualbox's preview shows.
[07:35] <joshmc> optidude: go to disk manager in the admin tools I believe, under windows. iirc that's how I did it.
[07:35] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Hm, shoot.
[07:35] <ejsejs> bot_killer: I want to know what the fn function is there
[07:36] <ejsejs> I can't tel what it is
[07:36] <Shield> joshmc: thats it i forgot what it was called
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: See http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/quick-compiz-screenshots perhaps?
[07:36] <Shield> Optidude: when you go into the disk manager just right click the C:\ partition, and you should see the option to shrink
[07:36] <optidude> ok, in device manager
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> i.e. try it direct through compiz
[07:36] <rww> ejsejs: if you hold it down and press a button with blue text or picture on it, it does something different (indicated by the blue stuff) than what the button would usually do.
[07:37] <ejsejs> rww: right, I want to know what the alternate function is, pelase
[07:37] <optidude> cool, how much room do i need for Ubuntu....I have a 140gb for win 7 right now
[07:37] <bot_killer> while holding the fn key, you can press any other key
[07:37] <ejsejs> before I tel my friend (not with me right now) what it is
[07:37] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Lets see here.
[07:37] <Shield> what size is your hhd?
[07:37] <bot_killer> then please send a better wuality picture
[07:37] <ejsejs> http://www.acceport.com/images/Laptop%20US%20Keyboard%20For%20Acer%20Aspire%20One%20531H.jpg
[07:37] <Ziber> How can I do that while holding the cube in place?
[07:37] <ejsejs> this better?
[07:37] <knoppies> optidude, ubuntu can run in 10GB of space, depends what you want to do with it.
[07:37] <Starminn> optitdude: During install it says you should have at least 2.5 for best performance. I'd say 20GB should be fine for all of your files and such. 15-20GB
[07:38] <rww> ejsejs: google says it enables and disables the touchpad
[07:38] <ejsejs> okay, thank you!
[07:38] <pehden> QUESTION: what is the easiest way to ssh tunnel the desktop from one ubuntu to another I have seen this done but they never clearly explain how.
[07:38] <optidude> total 160gb, after win 7 says 148gb
[07:38] <rww> I haven't used one though, so...
[07:38] <optidude> wow, thanks
[07:38] <optidude> still trying to shrink win 7 partition...lol
[07:39] <knoppies> pehden, I hope you find out, because I tried it a few times but never had any good results.
[07:39] <knoppies> optidude, I hope that goes well.
[07:39] <Sample> NightMonkey: just for update, moc claims it doesn't have a proper display in a UTF8 console. this seems to be something of the problem though i dont know why it would display in my normal terminal but not screen
[07:39] <robbiethe1st> pehden: "ssh user@ip_of_computer_to_connect_to"
[07:39] <bot_killer> esjesj http://netbooked.net/images/uploads/reviews/acer-aspire-one-751/acer-aspire-one-751-26.jpg ... if this your keyboard, the pressinf fn + f7 will disable toupad
[07:39] <totem> Alan Pope is here?
[07:39] <optidude> hmmmm, dont see an option to shrink partition...lol
[07:39] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu package manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, not that it is out?
[07:40] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I think he wants the WHOLE DESKTOP, a bit like remote desktop, but using X11 forwarding.
[07:40] <pehden> optidude: in windows 7 right click the hard drive make sure compression is off so it will give correct file size then you can strink it in linux
[07:40] <CaliUbuntuguy> now* that it is out
[07:40] <CaliUbuntuguy> typo
[07:40] <knoppies> optidude, I recommend you use gparted (on a liveCD) to edit partitions.
[07:41] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: In that case, I'd use vnc, especially if the computer's not right across the LAN.
[07:41] <pehden> knoppies optidude if your getting the dumb unable to error in ubuntu its the compression
[07:41] <ruan> where is the kernel gzip image located?
[07:41] <CaliUbuntuguy> Sorry, I meant to say: Ubuntu Update Manager
[07:41] <pehden> knoppies correct im trying to do remote desktop via ssh
[07:41] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I find VNC takes a while to refresh the image, I want a way to tunnel it over SSH with X11 forwarding, I have tried it before, but never with good results.
[07:41] <ruan> ssh -X  ?
[07:42] <pehden> ruan tried that says X: user not autherized
[07:42] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, in my case, it is across the LAN.
[07:42] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: Well, it'll be somewhat slow. VNC can be set to have a lot lower delay, you know...?
[07:42] <knoppies> ruan, something like that, and then if I remember correctly your run gnome-desktop, but that didn't work out so well for me.
[07:43] <gaelfx> how can I copy /home from one hard drive to another, including hidden files? is drag and drop enough to do it?
[07:43] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I don't remember seeing those options, but I don't doubt they are there.
[07:43] <daniel> hey were can i talk about beta 2 ?
[07:43] <NightMonkey> Sample: Huh, I'm at a loss there. UTF8 stuff is getting into locale issues.
[07:43] <ruan> daniel: ubuntu+1
[07:43] <ruan> daniel: #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: I always use TightVNC; seems to do well
[07:43] <CaliUbuntuguy> @ gaelfx, drag and drop should be enough
[07:44] <daniel> ruan, how do i get there using smuxi ?
[07:44] <knoppies> gaelfx, if you drag the /home and not everything in it, then yes, but be careful, drag and drop might move the files.
[07:44] <totem> popey: hey how are you doing. i love your screencasts/podcast. :)
[07:44] <gaelfx> CaliUbuntuguy: thanks :D
[07:44] <ruan> daniel: try /join #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <pehden> robbiethe1st knoppies the best solution is teamviewer but in order to install or set that up you would have to login to the desktop and its way faster. They catch is got to login first with desktop view to set it up cause its GUI only
[07:45] <pehden> robbiethe1st knoppies im doing this on a server that has no mouse or monitor
[07:45] <jhala> can someone point to a package where i can design a circuit with logic gates
[07:45] <Sirkill2> hello
[07:45] <optidude> wow, cool found out where it was, shrinking by 20 gig
[07:45] <knoppies> jhala, logisim
[07:45] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Why not just tunnel individual X applications over x forwarding?
[07:46] <jhala> knoppies can i cut nd paste it  into a pdf report also?
[07:46] <optidude> if i put Ubuntu on that 20, on the reboot will I get a boot menu to choose what OS i want to boot?
[07:46] <Sirkill2> how would i go about getting wifi connection on my virtual machine it doesnt work when i try to use my wifi stick becuase it doesnt have the approproate drivers
[07:46] <Sirkill2> and i cant install them
[07:46] <robbiethe1st> optidude: If you've got two OS's on the PC it'll give you a menu.
[07:46] <Sirkill2> because i dont understand the instructions
[07:46] <knoppies> jhala, its not a package in the repos, its a java application. Let me find the link. There are plenty of packages in the repos. jhala you can export it to .jpg or .png, Im not 100% sure about .pdf, let me have a look.
[07:46] <pehden> robbiethe1st that would be with ssh -CX ip program
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> optidude: If you /only/ have linux then  - by default- it won't show the menu
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> pehden: yea
[07:47] <Sirkill2> anyone?
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Or skip the program(which will give you a terminal), then launch whatever you want
[07:48] <pehden> robbiethe1st  does it have to be filename or  can i do /dir/location/filename
[07:48] <knoppies> jhala, you can export it to .jpg .png or .gif If you want to convert it to PDF then I think you might have to print it to pdf.
[07:48] <jhala> knoppies : yes please have a look. i did install geda but it does not provide gates but is very good with flipflops transistors ics and other microchips. i need something to work with logical gates like and nand etc
[07:48] <robbiethe1st> pehden: I'd read 'man ssh' if I were you.. but with any Linux thing, /path/to/file is always good.
[07:49] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "
[07:49] <Ycarene> I've installed oss v4, I'd like to not have to re-install it every time I update my kernel, is there a way to get the update process to re-compile the oss drivers?
[07:49] <knoppies> jhala, logisim does that. It also enables you to make your own ICs that you can then import into other projects.
[07:49] <pehden> robbiethe1st  all the examples i have found only show the filename not the entire location so i was like maybe/maybe not
[07:50] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Uh... remember to RTFM. That's the one source you can trust. ;)
[07:50] <jhala> knoppies : wonder why ubuntu doesnot have a repo
[07:50] <robbiethe1st> jhala: Uh... 'course it does.
[07:50] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "release Alt" or "release Ctrl" signal of some sort the keyboard will work again? Then I can set up the GUI to do this when I click on an icon, allowing me to use the keyboard.
[07:50] <knoppies> jhala, what do you mean, ubuntu does have a repo.
[07:50] <kwtm> I know it's a software problem because when I switch users (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-F8) then the keyboard works again, until I switch back.
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  sorry RTFM>
[07:51] <jhala> knppies: repo with logisim
[07:51] <ubuntu> estoy instalando lubuntu...
[07:51] <ubuntu> que tal_-=-
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  nvm
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  had to think bout it
[07:51] <robbiethe1st> :P
[07:52] <ubuntu> alguien habla espa;ol
[07:52] <pehden> robbiethe1st  its 1:52AM
[07:52] <pehden> robbiethe1st  been long day
[07:52] <robbiethe1st> Yea, I know the feeling.
[07:52] <kwtm> !es > ubuntu
[07:52] <bullgard4> Where is the Gajim config file in GNOME? .config/gajim does not exist.
[07:52] <Sample> how can I find my vim plugins directory? that is to say, i installed via apt-get and i dont know where it put everything. id' like to "whereis vim" but tell that command, please show me "whereis vim" IF.. it contains a directory 'plugins'
[07:52] <Sample> or some such thing
[07:52] <kwtm> ubuntu: Hablo un poquito espanol, pero estaria mejor si usa la canale #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <kwtm> Sample: "dpkg -L <pkgname>"   In your case, <pkgname> is vim
[07:53] <Sample> ok ill check that out
[07:55] <knoppies> jhala, http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/
[07:55] <knoppies> jhala, thats logisim.
[07:55] <Sample> kwtm: still doesn't tell me where the plugins directory is, and im sure there is one because vim always has one
[07:55] <kwtm> Sample: That's not necessarily true.  I'll go look for my plugins on my own version of vim, but vim itself doesn't come with a plugins directory.
[07:56] <Sample> oh o.O
[07:56] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox 4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu Update Manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, now that Firefox 4 is out?
[07:56] <Sample> then how on earth am i suppose to know where to create it o.O
[07:56] <kwtm> Sample: Okay, I have ~/.vim/ftplugin for the filetype plugin, but there may be other plugins.
[07:56] <Sample> there's also a /colors directory for themes and stuff
[07:56] <knoppies> QUESTION: Other than SBackup, do you guys know of any good 'backup on click'? I have about 5 groups of things I would like to backup, with the option of only backing up one or two this time.
[07:56] <Sample> i dont see them listed and i woudlnt know where im supposed to create them (where vim looks)
[07:57] <Sample> this is a reoccuring problem for me on linux so far
[07:57] <knoppies> Sample, I would google where to install vim plugins, but yes, it is an issue.
[07:57] <NightMonkey> Sample: Here's a trick for vim:
[07:57] <pehden> back some how i guess i closed this
[07:58] <kwtm> Sample: #vim
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: 'vim -V8boo.out'
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: Exit vim.
[07:58] <jhala> knppies: thanks
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: 'less boo.out'
[07:58] <kwtm> Sample: I don't think there's a particular place.  Just depends on how your .vimrc is set up.
[07:59] <Sample> i just had to Cd into the various directories provded by "whereis"
[07:59] <Sample> and then finally found both the plugin and the colors directory
[07:59] <Sample> but this doesnt seem ideal
[07:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: Take my tip, and you'll find what you seek.
[07:59] <Sample> k
[07:59] <bullgard4> [soved]
[07:59] <bullgard4> [solved]
[08:01] <Ycarene> I have installed a .deb that includes a kernel module.  Anytime I update the kernel through the updater, it recompiles all of my necessary modules except this one, how do I add this one to the list that it upgrades?
[08:01] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu Update Manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, now that it is out?
[08:01] <ruan> !ff4
[08:01] <Starminn> !ff4
[08:01] <ruan> CaliUbuntuguy: it will be in natty
[08:02] <NightMonkey> Sample: Most important: have fun.
[08:02] <CaliUbuntuguy> thanx ubottu
[08:02] <ruan> how do i do ksplice?
[08:02] <Ycarene> !oss
[08:02] <Sample> oh i am =) (generally)
[08:02] <Sample> my biggest loss is the linux file structure
[08:03] <crackguy> how can i mount a NTFS USB HDD to linux (citrix xenserver)
[08:03] <Sample> "how do i know where screen reads its screenrc, how do i know where vim reads vimrc, how do i know where irssi stores its scripts when i want to make one, how do i know where my vim colors directory is so i can wget a theme into it"
[08:03] <Sample> etc etc, those are my only annoyances so far
[08:04] <ruan> !info oss4-base
[08:04] <Diamondcite> Sample: It seems to make more sense than having programs everywhere in multiple pieces with no way to tell which went where?
[08:04] <Sample> i dare say its more managable/straight forward in windows. everything the app needs is in its install directory in Program Files, The End! *gets ready to be beaten*
[08:04] <operatorplik> jakarta
[08:05] <Sample> Diamondcite: that's what I feel like is going on.
[08:05] <pehden> Sample are you aware of nano?
[08:05] <ruan> Sample: settings are stored in home
[08:05] <pehden> Sample it is alot easier to use then vim
[08:05] <NightMonkey> Sample: man vim, man screen, man irssi would have answered those questions.
[08:06] <Diamondcite> Sample: So.. all things you can run go into /usr/bin, all configuration defaults in /etc, all system data logs(event viewer) in /var/log ... anything else important?
[08:06] <ruan> ^^
[08:06] <evstevemd> I want to migrate my Podcasts from GPodder to Rhythmbox, but the problem is RB wants to redownload everything. How can I migrate yet not re download Gigs of already there files. Thanks
[08:06] <Sample> pdhden: oddly enough though im coming off windows im totally proficient in vim =)
[08:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, there are lots of tools that are not available in the stock Windows install which are in most Linux distros. For instance, *if* you wanted to, you could actually trace exactly where vim seeks it's files.
[08:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, Windows and Linux have very different philosophies behind their working models.
[08:07] <Sample> Diamondcite: well it's sort of like.. k so i apt-installed irissi and now it's in 5 directories. and one of those i guess ill throw the scripts into (i hope) and so i go prowling around until i find the scripts directory
[08:07] <Sample> (and it happens to be /usr/share/irssi)
[08:08] <pehden> evestevmd you could import the folder
[08:08] <pehden> evestevemd you could import the folder
[08:08] <Sample> windows just has (for example) Program Files/mIRC/scripts (nothing else)
[08:08] <pehden> evetevemd you could import the folder
[08:08] <pehden> sorry
[08:08] <Diamondcite> Sample: But if you are after custom scripts, those go into your own personal .irssi .. not sure why you would force the scripts in there..
[08:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: Not much prowling needed. Just man irssi. The script directories are listed at the end.
[08:08] <Sample> i love vim aside from just feeling like i my apps are in 6 places
[08:08] <Sample> i mean i love linux, sorry vim on the mind still =P
[08:09] <ruan> it's all for safety
[08:09] <NightMonkey> Sample: The manual pages are core to UNIX/Linux.
[08:09] <ruan> partially for organisation
[08:09] <Sample> yeah ive been kind of using them ,and using / in them as well
[08:09] <Sample> but they're not exactly clear, i usually just have to google
[08:10] <shaiguitar> Reading state information... Done
[08:10] <shaiguitar> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:10] <shaiguitar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:10] <shaiguitar>   nginx-full: Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid) but it is not going to be installed
[08:10] <FloodBot2> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <shaiguitar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:10] <shaiguitar> What does that mean and how do I fix it ?
[08:10] <ruan> shaiguitar: try sudo apt-get install nginx-common
[08:10] <NightMonkey> Sample: The wide availability of man(ual) pages is a core reason why *NIX is widely used. When you install a non-gui app, and sometimes guis, always check for man pages by the same name.
[08:10] <Sample> like I don't really get why there is "modules" in /usr/lib/irssi but "scripts" in /usr/share/irssi
[08:10] <shaiguitar> ruan: http://pastie.org/private/xpzfzkbpymdeebmj7pivbg
[08:11] <Sample> im like.. hmm... okay then o.O
[08:11] <shaiguitar> rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid_all.deb  ?
[08:11] <Sample> i guess ill get used to the directory conventions and things being all split up everywhere
[08:12] <shaiguitar> hmm, rm'ing  /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid_all.deb  doesn't  work either.
[08:12] <shaiguitar> So that means there's a problem with the package itself ?
[08:12] <Starminn> How can I record in Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop from my mic?
[08:12] <ruan> looks like it
[08:12] <ruan> what happens if you get the PPA of nginx
[08:12] <pehden> Sample its wierd but after ahwile you dont even notice it
[08:12] <NightMonkey> Sample: That's not really a Linux-y thing, more an irssi-y thing.
[08:12] <darkcore> hi, anyone here available for some help?
[08:12] <ruan> Starminn: use sound recorder or audacity
[08:12] <pehden> darkcore just ask the question
[08:13] <Starminn> ruan: Not happening for me. Just not working.
[08:13] <pehden> !any
[08:13] <ruan> Starminn: are sound settings correct?
[08:13] <Starminn> pehden: That was a little rude.
[08:13] <NightMonkey> Sample: There are plenty of examples of Windows/Mac/Linux apps which don't follow the "rules" of where their files live.
[08:13] <pehden> Starminn wasnt trying to be
[08:14] <darkcore> I installed Ubuntu 11.04b, with encrypted home folder, then I installed XFCE 4.8, but it apparantly doesn't decrypt the home folder when I log on with XFCE, as I can't access my home folder. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:14] <Ycarene> Ugh, I guess it can't be done.
[08:14] <Starminn> ruan:I'm playing guitat from my amp (amp is directly hooked to my mic input jack) and while sound does come out of the speakers (without any need for special programs open) but it won't record that sound.
[08:14] <Starminn> !natty | darkcore
[08:14] <darkcore> oh, right, my bad :)
[08:14] <Starminn> darkcore: :)
[08:15] <bhavesh> I caI want to report a bug but I cannot get my ubuntu release information via lsb_release -rd on 11.04 what should I do?
[08:15] <Ycarene> Does anyone know if this can be done?
[08:15] <Starminn> pehden: That's fine. And for future reference, it's !anyone and I think !anybody triggers it too
[08:15] <Sample> NightMonkey: that's true but i mean it's extremely uncommon that apps aren't all bundled in the same directory in win.
[08:15] <shaiguitar> ruan: what's the PPA of nginx ?
[08:15] <Sample> that's the biggest thing im having to get used to
[08:15] <ruan> shaiguitar: search on launchpad
[08:15] <pehden> Starminn i was trying to post that but it didnt work
[08:15] <bhavesh> how c an I get my ubutnu release information/
[08:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: Oh, but their files are scattered across user profiles, for sure... ;)
[08:16] <shaiguitar> ruan: sorry, I've been a gentoo guy a long time, but just recently ubuntu. what's launchpad / ... ?
[08:16] <Starminn> bhavesh: System->Administration->System Monitor
[08:16] <pehden> darkcore ill get you alink
[08:16] <bhavesh> I cannot get whre system is on 11.04
[08:16] <NightMonkey> Sample: "Application Data", "Local Settings", etc.
[08:16] <ruan> shaiguitar: a site
[08:16] <tensorpudding> shaiguitar: https://launchpad.net/
[08:16] <Sample> based upon vim and irssi so far im getting the idea that /usr/share is sort of the "program files" directory im used to
[08:16] <ruan> shaiguitar: it has most if not all PPAs
[08:16] <Sample> and /usr/lib is libraries for the program and /bin is the program itself
[08:16] <Starminn> bhavesh: #ubuntu+1 is Natty support. 11.04 is NOT supported here. Read the channel topics when entering channels please.
[08:16] <tensorpudding> it's the site which hosts the ubuntu bugtracker, project homepages, and a lot of other stuff
[08:16] <NightMonkey> !lsb
[08:16] <shaiguitar> PPA = personal package archives ?
[08:17] <ruan> !ppa
[08:17] <pehden> darkcore http://www.satansgarden.org/2010/03/05/removing-encryption-from-home-directories-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[08:18] <pehden> darkcore i used that to do it it should work the same way for you
[08:18] <Ycarene> How do I get ubuntu to recompile kernel modules for a package installed when I update the kernel?
[08:18] <shaiguitar> tensorpudding: ruan: hmm, well oddly I do have nginx 1.0, so the nginx-common did work, but http://pastie.org/private/xpzfzkbpymdeebmj7pivbg still keeps on happening for non-nginx apt stuff as well.
[08:19] <buharin> hello
[08:19] <buharin> anyone here?
[08:19] <shaiguitar> tensorpudding: ruan: is there a way to just rm that error from apt so I can proceed with other stuff ?
[08:19]  * buharin searching eclipse user
[08:19] <tersecol> I want to try Unity, but my laptop screen is slightly damaged at the top and this hides the top panel. In Gnome I just put an empty panel over it, but that option isn't in Unity. Any ideas people?
[08:19] <shaiguitar>   libxmlrpc-c3-dev: Depends: libxmlrpc-core-c3-dev but it is not going to be installed
[08:19] <shaiguitar>   nginx-full: Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid) but it is not going to be installed
[08:19] <shaiguitar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:19] <shaiguitar> "or specify a solution" what does that mean in that context ?
[08:19] <FloodBot2> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <bullgard4> How can I add in "Passwords and Encryption" a Gajim login password?
[08:20] <Sample> this question is unlikely/from right field, but ill ask anyways: does lynx (or are there plugins to lynx, or other terminal browsers) which support vim-style key bindings, like 'yy' to copy all text on the line, etc
[08:20] <Sample> im finding navigating lynx a bit difficult
[08:22] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might try "links" or "w3m". links uses ctrl-X/ctrl-V for cut/paste, if I understand your question.
[08:22] <Starminn> tersecol: Read the channel topic regarding Natty support.
[08:22] <Sample> k thanks
[08:22] <dEhiN> hi all, how do I access the terminals/consoles in ubuntu 10.10? I tried ctrl+alt+f# but anything from f1-f6 just gave me the gnome desktop with the mouse cursor missing, and then ctrl+alt+f7 gave me the gnome desktop with the mouse cursor
[08:22] <Starminn> My mic input jack is working but won't record sound. Suggestions?
[08:23] <NightMonkey> Naughty Natty.
[08:23] <NightMonkey> !Natty
[08:23] <Sample> ubuntu 11 is a narwhal, thats pretty awesome
[08:24] <Sample> NightMonkey: essentially I'm trying to get the wombat theme for vim and the vim.org/scripts page is mega simple. so rather than have to bounce into windows, navigate through chrome, grab the link, wget it into my terminal, im just tryint to do it all within terminal via lynx where I can then copy the URL and wget it
[08:25] <shaiguitar> aptitude purge nginx-common
[08:25] <bullgard4> !sound | Starminn
[08:25] <Starminn> Sample 11.04. Different from 11.10. ;)
[08:26] <dEhiN> does ubuntu have virtual consoles?
[08:26] <Ycarene> ok, I need to use dkms, how do I get dkms (rocket) to recompile ossv4 when I update my kernel?
[08:26] <petrolol> kubuntu sucks
[08:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: Are you running Linux with X?
[08:26] <bignono1> lenovo netbook dual winxp & ubuntu 10.04 , deleted winxp ,now can not run ubuntu ,please help
[08:26] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes.
[08:27] <Ycarene> !dkms
[08:27] <dEhiN> bullgard4: how do I access them from the gnome desktop - ctrl+alt+f#?
[08:27] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes.
[08:27] <dEhiN> didn't work when I tried it...but I'll reboot and try again
[08:29] <bullgard4> dEhiN: If this does not help you better check dmesg: Do '~$ dmesg > dmesg.log' and read dmesg.log with a text editor, e. g. gajim.
[08:29] <bullgard4> dEhiN: If this does not help you better check dmesg: Do '~$ dmesg > dmesg.log' and read dmesg.log with a text editor, e. g. gedit.
[08:29] <Sample> NightMonkey: im on windows running Ubuntu 10 terminal through PuTTY
[08:29] <ruan> !text
[08:29] <ruan> oops
[08:29] <ruan> !editor
[08:30] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, now things start to become clear. :)
[08:30] <Sample> maybe if i learn lynx commands better this will be an easier process. the "." command in lynx means "open this url in external program" so i can probably do "." followed by "wget" or some such. however, there doesn't seem to be a "copy this link to clipboard" kind of thing going on
[08:30] <dEhiN> thanks bullgard4, ruan
[08:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: The "clipboard" is a GUI thing, though screen has a copy-and-paste function.
[08:31] <bullgard4> How can I add in "Passwords and Encryption" a Gajim login password?
[08:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, what you're asking for doesn't really apply in a text-only environment, without help.
[08:32] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, again, screen has a way to help you.
[08:32] <Sample> oh great
[08:32] <Sample> that may be my solution
[08:33] <Starminn> bullgard4: I've tried all those. What happens is, the mic unput jack outputs the sound through my speakers (and it sounds perfect, by the way). but when I go to record it, it can't record anything, despite the sound still happening through the speakers.
[08:33] <optidude> hey all
[08:33] <optidude> back...hehehe
[08:33] <optidude> now on ubuntu...
[08:33] <optidude> that did not take too long..lol
[08:33] <Starminn> optidude: Congrats!
[08:34] <optidude> got it installed next to my windows 7 install, but i now have to fix my win 7 wireless....
[08:34] <optidude> thanks starminn
[08:34] <optidude> :-)
[08:34] <NightMonkey> Sample: BTW, you might like SecureCRT better than Putty, but it isn't F/OSS.
[08:35] <Starminn> optidude: What is wrong with your Win7?
[08:35] <optidude> its funny becuase i reinstall win 7 on a fresh install and it cant see my wireless adapter (which built on) and I install Ubuntu and it connects right away....LOL
[08:35] <Sample> ah okay thanks
[08:36] <NightMonkey> Sample: Also, you might investigate Cygwin, and use Cygwin's X, rxvt terminal, etc. to connect to your Linux boxes.
[08:36] <optidude> starminn:  I cant get my wireless adapter to install
[08:36] <Starminn> optidude: Ah. Well the folks in ##windows should be able to help with that whenever you feel like getting around to that. :)
[08:36] <optidude> hmmmm
[08:36] <bhavesh> is there any way to reduce the size of all the desktop icons at once?
[08:36] <Starminn> bhaveshL Highlight them all and resize? (theory)
[08:36] <Sample> NightMonkey: ah okay interesting idea
[08:36] <optidude> niiiiccceee
[08:37] <bhavesh> nope doesnt work
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> helloo.
[08:37] <bhavesh> starminn
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> can any one help me with the windows installer?
[08:37] <Starminn> bhavesh: Ah. Than no, I don't think so.
[08:37] <Starminn> TOMATOEEEE: ##windows
[08:37] <bhavesh> there is a option in preferences
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> ##windows
[08:37] <bhavesh> but it reduces to 66% directly :(
[08:37] <mouse> Does times new roman go by a different name in linux or do I have to get that from a different source?
[08:37] <NightMonkey> Sample: I'm gonna guess that using a decent Cygwin environment might also fix those character set issues you were having in your terminal, too.
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> Come again Starminn?
[08:37] <Starminn> mouse: There's a package for MS fonts
[08:38] <bhavesh> I think in 11.04 all MS fonts are preinstalled
[08:38] <Starminn> TOMATOEEEE: Ask in the ##windows channel. Windows is not supported here in #ubuntu
[08:38] <TOMATOEEEE> oh okay.
[08:38] <bhavesh>  /join #windows
[08:38] <Sample> crap... im stuck in lynx. i didnt run it with sudo and now it's asking me to name my download file and when i hit enter it says it cant write but i cant seem to be able to close lynx because i cant issue "Q" for quit because im in a "name the file, type anything you want" lock, nooooo, lol
[08:38] <NightMonkey> Sample: (It won't fix Putty, but will fix the problem by offering a better terminal application.)
[08:38] <mouse> Starminn, Yeah I thought that's what it was too and it says it's installed but I don't see times new roman any where.
[08:38] <Starminn> mouse: Open OpenOffice/LibreOffice and try to select it.
[08:38] <shaiguitar> thanks ruan
[08:38] <Sample> well oddly via putty the display is fine, its just awry when i run screen and then run the app
[08:38] <bhavesh> is open office and libre office same?
[08:38] <shaiguitar> the purge and re=install worked.
[08:39] <NightMonkey> Sample: Hrm. I don't think you'd need to sudo to run lynx...?
[08:39] <mouse> Starminn, I'm in openoffice right now and it's not in there.
[08:39] <Starminn> bhavesh: Eh.. LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice. LibreOffice didn't like how things were being run so they split
[08:39] <soreau> Sample: Can you get to a tty and kill lynx?
[08:39] <ruan> Sample: type ctrl z then killall lynx
[08:39] <hiexpo> bhavesh, yes
[08:39] <bhavesh> ok
[08:39] <mouse> Starminn, And the package manager says the ms fonts are installed.
[08:39] <Starminn> mouse: Search in Ubuntu Software Center "MS fonts"
[08:39] <Starminn> mouse: Install the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[08:39] <Sample> i luckly remembered that since im in screen i can do "ctrl+a k" and kill it, phew. lol... lynx
[08:40]  * NightMonkey runsaroundrunsaround
[08:40] <mouse> Starminn, It's already installed.
[08:40] <Starminn> mouse:Hmm... Have you logged out/in since installing? (Just a wild guess. Nto sure if it will make much of a differencE)
[08:41] <bhavesh> I installed 11.04 and my upgrade manager still says it needs to be partially upgraded
[08:41] <Toiletbowl> :)
[08:41] <bhavesh> what should I do?
[08:41] <mouse> Starminn, No doubt I have since I have no memory of installing msfonts recently.
[08:41] <marlow> quit
[08:41] <Starminn> mouse: :)
[08:41] <bullgard4> Starminn: So your recording program is badly configured.
[08:41] <Starminn> bhavesh: Natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <bhavesh> ik
[08:41] <nomicos> Does Unity Desktop Environments will normally work on OC with 512 MB of RAM and Pentium 4 processor?
[08:41] <bhavesh> ok
[08:41] <Starminn> bullgard4: All 4 of them that I've tried?
[08:42] <Nomicos> *PC
[08:42] <mouse> Starminn, I'm going to try reinstalling msfonts to see if that helps.
[08:42] <Starminn> mouse: Hmm... You could always make sure that they're in ~/.fonts and copy them there if not
[08:42] <Starminn> mouse: Yeah, it's worth a shot.
[08:42] <bullgard4> Starminn: If you tried 4 recording programs and all 4 failed then your sound manager is mis-confgured.
[08:43] <mouse> Starminn, How would I do that?
[08:43] <bullgard4> +i
[08:43] <Starminn> mouse: Try reinstalling it first.
[08:43] <mouse> Starminn, k
[08:43] <Starminn> bullgard4: Sound manager as in Sound Preferences?
[08:44] <bullgard4> Starminn: The GNOME default sound manager is PulseAudio.
[08:47] <john2011> can anyone help i'm trying to install duel boot ubuntu and it's failing
[08:47] <Starminn> bullgard4: In Pulse Audio Volume Control (PAVC) the Input device is set to max volume. But the sound levels only fluctuate when I'm playing music (i.e. Rhythmbox, Banshee)
[08:47] <Starminn> john2011: What keeps happening?
[08:47] <john2011> i'm getting boot is missing
[08:49] <mouse> Well that did the trick.  Thank you.
[08:49] <soreau> john2011: You might need to reinstall the boot loader
[08:49] <soreau> ! grub2 | john2011
[08:49] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to boost youtube videos audio, im maxing out my volume but still, the sound is too low
[08:50] <jam2011> I was formatting my existing ubuntu 10.04 and doing a fresh install (last time it was an upgrade) . I am run into a problem. I got the message "Unable to install grub in /dev/sda".. I selected the option of continuing without a bootloader option...Now I need to mannually install the bootloader.. how do I do it?
[08:50] <Starminn> mouse: Glad to hear it! Do you dual-boot? (If you do then you can get the non-free ones from your Windows installation)
[08:50] <dEhiN> ljsoftnet: are you maxed in your system sound and the youtube vid volume?
[08:51] <mouse> Starminn, Sure do.  I only need those fonts for my reports since the professor said they have to be in MLA format and all.
[08:51] <ljsoftnet> dEhiN yeah
[08:51] <Adityab> Hi all - I just upgraded my system to natty beta 2 and the dash thing I get by clicking the 'ubuntu button' in unity isn't resizable - it just covers the whole screen
[08:51] <Adityab> the same for other lenses
[08:51] <jam2011> how can I manually install a bootloader in ubuntu
[08:52] <bullgard4> Starminn:  I believe that the best tool for checking is alsamixer. But even alsamixer for some hardware does not reveal all missing connections.
[08:52] <gaelfx> Adityab: ubuntu+1 for beta discussions
[08:52] <Adityab> ok
[08:52] <dEhiN> jam2011: you can't if you can't boot into ubuntu...you'll have to boot into another system if you have dual/multi-boot
[08:52] <bullgard4> !grub | jam2011
[08:52] <dEhiN> or use a partition/disk manager/editor like partman or something...check out ubcd
[08:53] <Starminn> mouse: Well, if you want, you can just copy/paste the fonts from Windows to the Ubuntu fonts folder.
[08:53] <Starminn> mouse: I did that since I like the Monotype Corsiva font but ubuntu can't legally include it for free. ;)
[08:53] <evstevemd> pedhen: Yes, it is one of my folder being watch by RB
[08:53] <jam2011> dEhiN: I do not have dual boot
[08:53] <Starminn> bullgard4: Tried it too.
[08:54] <mouse> Starminn, Ugh law is always getting in the way of real progress.
[08:54] <dEhiN> Starminn: where is the ubuntu fonts folder?
[08:55] <Starminn> dEhiN: for your user ~/.fonts and for all users in /usr/share/fonts
[08:55] <dEhiN> thnx
[08:55] <bullgard4> Starminn: I have a friend in the local Ubuntu computer club had a similar problem as yours. He finally solved it by googling for his computer type and »sound« and »recording«.
[08:56] <Starminn> mouse: Well, if you want to, I just checked on my Windows XP dual boot and Widnows fonts are in C:\\WINDOWS\Fonts so you can copy all the fonts you want to /usr/share/fonts for all users or ~/.fonts for just yours.
[08:56] <bignono1> lenovo netbook dual winxp & ubuntu 10.04 , deleted winxp ,now can not run ubuntu ,please help
[08:56] <Starminn> mouse: IF what you want isn't included in the Canonical package, anyway. :)
[08:56] <bullgard4> Starminn: And of course »Ubuntu«.
[08:56] <TheAnyInbox> I am attempting to run update-grub from a livecd on a laptop to fix grub on the hd, but I cant seem to get it to worl. Any suggestions?
[08:57] <TheAnyInbox> *work
[08:57] <Starminn> bullgard4: :) Of course. Alright, duly noted. I'll see what I can find. Thank you for your time. (Is your "local Ubuntu club" LoCo or just non-official?)
[08:57] <evstevemd> bibnono: you lost MBR thing Let me help you with a link
[08:57] <jam2011> dEhiN: I have the installation CD. do you think I can manually install the boot loader from the installation CD
[08:57] <mouse> Starminn, Alright good idea.  Thank you.
[08:57] <bullgard4> Starminn: It is ubuntu-berlin
[08:57] <Starminn> bullgard4: Ah, alright.
[08:58] <dEhiN> jam2011: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[08:58] <dEhiN> which btw, bullgard4 helped you with when type ! + grub
[08:58] <jam2011> dEhiN: thanks
[08:58] <evstevemd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Recovering%20GRUB%20after%20reinstalling%20Windows
[08:59] <evstevemd> For all with Grub Issues
[08:59] <bignono1> evstevemd , thanks
[08:59] <doobien> should one remove most of the .config files out of the home directory before upgrading to natty?
[09:00] <Starminn> doobien: The people in the Natty support channel would probably know. #ubuntu+1 (read channel topics)
[09:00] <TheAnyInbox> uh, hello
[09:00] <TheAnyInbox> ?
[09:01] <gaelfx> under normal circumstances, how long would it take for dd to copy 300+gb of files?
[09:01] <dEhiN> depends on the mediums involved
[09:01] <trijntje> !hi | TheAnyInbox
[09:01] <gaelfx> dEhiN: all are sata II
[09:01] <dEhiN> should be 30-60min I think
[09:01] <dEhiN> rough guess though
[09:02] <Starminn> bullgard4: What is the relation between PulseAudio and ALSA Mixer? I don't quite understand how the two work together.  Is PulseAudio like the "server" for sound and ALSA for tweaking of the delivered sound, or no?
[09:02] <trijntje> gaelfx, I think it also depends on the bs?
[09:02] <dEhiN> depends also on if any other disk usage is happening
[09:02] <gaelfx> dEhiN: thanks, that's all I wanted :D
[09:02] <evstevemd> bignono1: Ure welcome
[09:02] <gaelfx> trijntje: 4096
[09:02] <dEhiN> trijntje: what's the bs?
[09:03] <gaelfx> dEhiN: I'm doing it on a liveusb between two hard drives hooked up to the same machine, so there shouldn't be other disk usage
[09:03] <jam2011> dEhiN: I was checking the version of grub on my machine and it says GNU GRUB 1.98-1ubuntu10.
[09:03] <gaelfx> bitsize
[09:03] <evstevemd> Anyone lucky in importing Podcasts to Rhythmbox without redownloading episodes?
[09:04] <TheAnyInbox> I have grub installed on my laptop along with ubuntu 10.04LTS but im not sure how to run update-grub from the livecd to fix the cfg so it will boot
[09:04] <trijntje> dEhiN, the bitsize, you can specify how big the 'chunks' must be that dd copies
[09:04] <dEhiN> gaelfx: thanks
[09:04] <TheAnyInbox> Any suggestions?
[09:05] <dEhiN> trijntje: thanks
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> anyone online?
[09:05] <dEhiN> yup
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> cool
[09:05] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: I can think of 1,395 people off the top of my head.
[09:05] <Starminn> :)
[09:05] <dEhiN> TheAnyInbox: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[09:05] <bullgard4> Starminn: ALSA is the basic sound system in Linux. alsamixer allows to investigate and set up basic ALSA configuration. You may consider PulseAudio as a front-end to ALSA.
[09:05] <dEhiN> it should help you
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  just switch from debian to ubuntu to double check if the gyache is actually working
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  nice one
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> stupid question
[09:06] <Starminn> bullgard4: So ALSA==Linux and PulseAudio==GNOME enhancements
[09:06] <bignono1> thank you again evstevemd
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> for some reason the file transfer  from yahoo users is not working on gyachi is not working  Not on 10 not on 11.04 (now i am on 11.04)
[09:06] <bullgard4> Starminn: In some respect, yes.
[09:07] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, you would probably want to chroot to the hard drives root directory.
[09:07] <Starminn> bullgard4: So that's *pretty much* a good way to think about it?
[09:08] <dEhiN> Gorilla_No_Baka: Ubuntu 11.04? then try #ubuntu+1
[09:08] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Ah, thx
[09:08] <TheAnyInbox> How do i do that :X
[09:08] <bullgard4> Starminn: Yes. But like most other comparisons they are limited in their scope.
[09:08] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i have installed the gyachi from a the recomended ppa and all that.. I tried evertything... no firggin chance... i tried to change the servers as well no dice .. i  aliend some rmp pakages  all of them have the same problem .. can not receive files from yahoo users
[09:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dEhiN:  Cheers
[09:09] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Well, I use Pidgin and have issues receiving files from Yahoo! users as well. I think it's just about the clients or maybe Yahoo! trying to have everybody use their client.
[09:09] <jam2011> dEhiN: Neither can I find menu.lst nor grub.cfg when I mount the hard drive from the install CD
[09:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  but i do not think it is a OS problem  i was more like curious to  see if anybody else has experienced this problem
[09:09] <Starminn> bullgard4: Of course, of course. How "rough" is that, though?
[09:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  that`s actually true.. Pidgin used to be the s...t  not anymore..
[09:10] <dEhiN> jam2011: did you try the steps on the web page listed above?
[09:10] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Right, that's what I was saying. I think it's just the chat cleints, not-so-much the OSes or anything. Even on Windows if I used anything other than the Yahoo! client I couldn't really receive files from Yahoo! users
[09:10] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, something like sudo chroot /dev/sda2
[09:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> I used to love it because it gave me the opportunity to assign different size pictures for the users...
[09:11] <jam2011> dEhiN: I was trying the steps in the website. One of the steps was to "Go into boot/grub directory and check for the existence of the files menu.lst and grub.cfg.   "
[09:11] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Thanks
[09:11] <TheAnyInbox> that works fine
[09:11] <dEhiN> jam2011: ok, and which /boot/grub dir did you try? the live cd or your installed partition?
[09:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  funny thing is that uploading toward the yahoo users is working perfect.. is just receiving side that does not work
[09:12] <doobien> if sda2 is in fact your root directory :P
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> wait \
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> no
[09:12] <jam2011> dEhiN: installed partition
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> Its says its not a directory
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> :(
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> What now
[09:12] <dEhiN> Gorilla_No_Baka, Starminn: sounds like a Yahoo IM protocol thing where the client being used for receiving is specified
[09:12] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Hmm... *shrug* Well I honestly don't know for sure, but I'd say it's just that people using the Yahoo! client may have the misfortune of being underneath a very "my way or the highway" company like Skype.
[09:13] <bullgard4> Starminn: alsamixer is a simple configuration tool for ALSA. --  PulseAudio is more than a simple "converter" (sound manager) to ALSA.
[09:13] <dEhiN> jam2011: remind me again - did you install grub before?
[09:14] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, maybe you have to mount it first - before you can chroot to it. mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:14] <Starminn> bullgard4: So without Pulse there would be no sound?
[09:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pidgin was good.. Starminn  i would go into the purple folder and delete the stupid small png`s of the users pictures and replacem with big proper ones where you can actually see face`s features.. i loved it.. but the lack of the webcam made me move to gyachi
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox>  i have it mounted it n00bishly
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox> its in media
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox> D:
[09:14] <bullgard4> Starminn: This is true.
[09:14] <bullgard4> Starminn: No, wait!
[09:14] <jam2011> dEhiN: I had been using this version of ubuntu for some time now. I wanted to do a fresh install. So I formatted the whole disk from the installation CD..
[09:15] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Lol.
[09:15] <bullgard4> Starminn: I misread. Without PulseAudio there will be sound, anyway.
[09:15] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, try sudo chroot /media/sda2
[09:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that`s something on yahoo you can not do.. even if you upload a 5 mb picture it gets shrinked to few useless kb
[09:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:16] <dEhiN> bullgard4: so then is PulseAudio a front-end of sorts to alsa?
[09:16] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: I just went chroot /mnt
[09:16] <manish> kestrel hpc not showing hpc linpack
[09:16] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes, indeed.
[09:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> rights gents..that`s all i wanted to know then.. Looks like everyone has the same problem.. I thought it is only me
[09:17] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Its mounted by UUID
[09:17] <TheAnyInbox> D;
[09:17] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Such front-ends are called "sound manager".
[09:17] <dEhiN> jam2011: and when you installed afresh, did you not install grub?
[09:17] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Then that`s me back on openbox  Debian .. :) Ubuntu was good in  the begining now is way to heavy for my eight years old laptop...
[09:17] <Starminn> bullgard4: What defines a "front-end" though? ALSA has a GUI, so....
[09:17] <dEhiN> bullgard4: I get it
[09:17] <Starminn> dEhiN: I'm slow. :D
[09:17] <manish> i need help for configuring node on kestrel hpc
[09:18] <jam2011> dEhiN: Thats when I got a fatal error. so I had to skip the grubn installation
[09:18] <soreau> ! grub2 | john2011
[09:18] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, oye vay, looks like it a job for google... there's bound to be something out there on howto
[09:19] <dEhiN> jam2011: then in that case, ignore steps in the web page instructions relating to previous grub installations...you don't have a previous install, so there would be no /boot/grub menu
[09:19] <manish> http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/configuration.html
[09:19] <manish> hpc problem with http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/configuration.html
[09:20] <dEhiN> TheAnyInbox: so after chroot /mnt, did it work? if so, then cd into it and update-grub
[09:21] <bullgard4> Starminn: The best definition which I found so far, is: " http://www.dilettantesdictionary.org/index.php: "Sound Manager : A part of the Mac operating system that handles audio functionality such as input, mixing, and playback. Currently the Sound Manager supports only mono or stereo recording and playback at 16-bit, 48kHz resolution. Most Mac audio cards do not use Sound Manager for this...
[09:21] <bullgard4> ...reason, achieving both increased bit-depth and sampling resolution."
[09:21] <FloodBot2> bullgard4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <kmanzoor> i am using the default browser for kubuntu. i have difficulty reading this page http://www.wi-tribe.pk/customer-care/coverage-map/. any idea what is causing this ?
[09:22] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: have you tried other pages with maps? like maps.google.com?
[09:22] <xskydevilx> Can install GNOME 3 alongside the existing GNOME 2.32 inside of Natty?
[09:22] <Starminn> bullgard4: And that is the definition for ALSA or Pulse? (I know not "litrally" for those, but still)
[09:22] <dEhiN> Starminn: for Pulse
[09:22] <kmanzoor> dEhiN let me check other similar pages
[09:22] <Starminn> xskydevilx: Gnome3 kills Unity in Natty. But NAtty questions go to #ubuntu+1
[09:23] <bullgard4> Starminn: For PulsAudio.
[09:23] <dEhiN> and yes, it probably would be literally as the def is what a sound manager is...all oses use one
[09:23] <Starminn> bullgard4: Ah, alright.
[09:24] <dEhiN> o/t, but this is a great way to spend the night when you wanna stay up all night - help out on various irc channels
[09:25] <Starminn> dEhiN: I'm actually addicted top some extent I think.
[09:26] <Starminn> dEhiN: Right now I'm receiving help of course (with ALSA vs. Pulse) but usually I'm giving it. Last night I was up 3 hours later than I should have been. :(
[09:26] <dEhiN> Starminn: addicted to staying on irc channels and chatting/helping?
[09:26] <Starminn> dEhiN: Yep.
[09:27] <opiate> hey, what i  have a Problem with my souncard. When i turn up the volume it starts to make weird noises after the half volume. is this caused by my drivers or the soundcard itself?
[09:27] <dEhiN> Starminn: lol, I know what that's like - computer work definitely steals your time
[09:27] <Starminn> opiate: Did this happen with other OSes? It couldn't just be that it's too much output for your speakers, could it?
[09:28] <opiate> Stairman: No, it just happened since i have installed ubuntu. It happens with speakers and headphones, so this isnt the reason neither
[09:29] <Rafa652> I've got a small question... I'm trying out Unity in 11.04 and one of the icons in the launcher looks like it's glowing, and I can't figure out what that means.
[09:29] <dEhiN> Rafa652: 11.04 questions go to #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <Rafa652> Oh okay, thanks
[09:29] <doobien> opiate, try looking at your sound preferences, you probably have it at maxed out
[09:29] <Ishwon> hey guys, shipit is now closed?
[09:30] <pogztimz> can i still get free cds?
[09:30] <opiate> doobien: Where should i look? In the Alsamixer? Been there before but havent understood all those mixers.
[09:31] <Starminn> http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit
[09:31] <Ishwon> i doubt abt getting the free cds. does anybody can provide more info?
[09:31] <Starminn> lshown and pogztimz: The above link should be useful
[09:31] <doobien> opiate, click on the speaker on panel, it should say sound preferences - and slide the volume down and see if that helps
[09:31] <Starminn> lshwon: The LoCo teams may provide free ones?
[09:31] <Ishwon> i checked, but it says, shipit now closed.
[09:32] <Ishwon> i'm from mauritius, Starminn. we dnt hve locoteams here. and i'm in process of starting one.
[09:33] <Ishwon> that's why i was checking our shipit, if we could get some cds to present at a booth.
[09:33] <Ishwon> there'll be a linux workshop @ University of Mauritius, and we wanted to represent Ubuntu there.
[09:33] <Starminn> lshwon: Ah. Well you could see about getting them shipped to your LoCo team once it starts. I'd say they'd still favor the Teams. Other than that that link says you either download it or buy it from Canonical store
[09:34] <Ishwon> i checked abt starting a locoteam, but wiki pages kept me moving round n round. i created my team on launchpad; https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mu
[09:35] <Ishwon> more members will be joining in the coming days, we're a group of around 30 linux enthusiasts. most of who use ubuntu :)
[09:36] <optidude> hello all
[09:36] <pehden> Well i found the best Artical for X-tunnel over ssh
[09:36] <optidude> thanks for all your help
[09:36] <opiate> doobien: this is the same soundlevel as the normal , when i get over the half it makes weird noises. the funny thing is that the sounds are appearing as well when i turn down the speaker volumes and turn up the computer volume
[09:36] <pehden> http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[09:36] <optidude> got it up and running and fixed my wireless with win 7..... and understand what grub is now
[09:37] <optidude> niiiiccceee
[09:37] <ejv> why oh why did they decide to call it oneiric...
[09:37]  * ejv facepalms
[09:37] <optidude> have a great night all
[09:37] <loki_> hello
[09:37] <ejv> !hi | loki_
[09:38] <ejv> thought that used to work... doh
[09:38] <ejv> hi loki_ :p
[09:38] <loki_> lol
 Sorry, I don't know anything about hi
[09:38] <loki_> LMAO!!!
[09:39] <pehden> lol
[09:39] <loki_> okay to the question !! yay!! okay anyway.. i can't seem to install "electric" through the package manager
[09:39] <doobien> opiate, i cant say i have had that problem before - are the speakers plugged in all the way into the sound card possibly?
[09:39] <loki_> can someone hit me with a 2x4 or maybe lend some advice :p
[09:40] <akis24> ciao
[09:40] <ajin> hi, there! question: Do i need to uninstall firefox3.6 before i install firefox4.0 under ubuntu?
[09:40] <ejv> ajin: no
[09:41] <loki_> it gives evil "untrusted package error"
[09:41] <dfvgtrtrgr> hello,everyone
[09:41] <cacaiho> hello
[09:41] <dEhiN> opiate: what type of noise do you get?
[09:41] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: the google maps official site maps.google.com is running ok with rekonq
[09:41] <loki_> you can install 4.0 right off
[09:41] <loki_> using it right now
[09:41] <dfvgtrtrgr> anyone know mark shuttleworth
[09:41] <ejv> we drink scotch together on weekends
[09:42] <ajin> ejv: then, will i get two versions of firefox after the firefox4.0 installaiton?
[09:42] <loki_> @ajin it seems to have replaced it
[09:43] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: so maps.google.com runs ok, but the link you posted doesn't? if so, try using another browser...if that doesn't work, then it's probably an error with the page
[09:43] <ajin> ok, thank you guys
[09:43] <dfvgtrtrgr> ejv: i would like to know you
[09:43] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: there is no other internet browser installed
[09:44] <dfvgtrtrgr> ejv: i am quite a fan of ubuntu
[09:44] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: can you install another one just to try
[09:44] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: yes i can. there is a list of browsers in the Kpackagekit. which browser should i install ?
[09:45] <bazhang> !ot | dfvgtrtrgr
[09:45] <ejv> lol
[09:45] <loki_> internet explorer!! no i'm just kidding... firefox is pretty descent chrome works too.. but i prefer firefox
[09:45] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: it probably doesn't really matter as you are just testing to see if the page is broken or if rekonq has problems
[09:45] <loki_> there's a ton of them though
[09:46] <ejv> !natty
[09:47] <treebeen> neither is 10.10, nor 11.04 when it will be out, maybe LTS
[09:48] <dfvgtrtrgr> ubottu: ok
[09:48] <doobien> yea, but isn't natty being released in like a week or two?
[09:48] <DirtyDawg> 28th i think
[09:48] <loki_> will they remove the untrusted packages from the package list... so i don't get false hope?
[09:48] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: the flash packages that i am using wud be available for the other browser? i mean do i just have to install a browser or there are other packages that i wud be needing ?
[09:49] <pehden> doobien but it can change from beta
[09:50] <pehden> !gender | ubotto
[09:50] <pehden> !sweet | ubotto
[09:51] <treebeen> kmanzoor: they shud
[09:51] <bazhang> pehden, /msg ubottu
[09:51] <pehden> lol i was just messin lol
[09:51] <treebeen> bazhang: > /dev/null
[09:51] <bazhang> pehden, not the channel for that. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[09:53] <seven> hello .... can anyone help me ? my microphone it`s not working
[09:54] <bhavesh> the "keep aligned" is always enabled. How can I permanently disable it?
[09:54] <seven> i changed the mic ... problem still persists
[09:54] <bazhang> bhavesh, which version of ubuntu
[09:54] <bhavesh> 11.04
[09:54] <Seveas> seven, system -> preferences -> sound. Check your settings there.
[09:54] <bazhang> bhavesh, #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <bhavesh> ubutnu+1 is only for reporting bugs I guess..
[09:55] <bazhang> bhavesh, no its not
[09:55] <bhavesh> ok
[09:55] <quuxman> my system is hosed. I need some help to get it bootable again
[09:56] <kmanzoor> i am installing chromium
[09:56] <quuxman> Actually, it boots, and it starts almost everything in runlevel 2, but it doesn't show a login prompt
[09:56] <Seveas> quuxman, what does it show instead?
[09:56] <quuxman> something like "mount-all: something something error"
[09:57] <seven> Seveas,
[09:57] <seven> i dont have that menu
[09:57] <seven> i`m using kubuntu
[09:57] <quuxman> Seveas: it's not an informative error at all, not even sure if it's directly related
[09:57] <Seveas> quuxman, take a photo of it and post it somewhere, the exact error is probably useful to know
[09:57] <oshi74> what's the general opinion of Unity so far?
[09:57] <Seveas> seven, ah, try #kubuntu
[09:57] <bazhang> oshi74, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please dont poll here
[09:57] <Seveas> oshi74, general opinion is on leave, maybe ask general protection fault.
[09:58] <quuxman> Seveas: I googled it and didn't find anything relevant
[09:58] <seven> thx
[09:58] <quuxman> isn't there a log file I can investigate? I'm using the system now thanks to a Debian install drive
[09:58] <Seveas> quuxman, ok, and you get no other messages? Also not on other terminals?
[09:58] <bhavesh> wow no one ever replies on ubuntu+1
[09:58] <quuxman> Seveas: yes
[09:58] <frybye> bhavesh: not 101% true pal.. or..?
[09:58] <dEhiN> ok all I'm off...ciao
[09:58] <kmanzoor> ciao
[09:59] <bhavesh> lol sometimes.
[09:59] <Seveas> quuxman, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (if X actually tried to start), /var/log/apt/history.log (to see if you lost some packages)
[09:59] <quuxman> Seveas: X did not try to start. I don't have gdm start at boot
[10:00] <Seveas> ah
[10:02] <quuxman> this may be relevant: I have one non-configured package: procps
[10:03] <quuxman> when I try to configure it, I get the error: start: unable to connect to upstart: failed to connect to socket ....
[10:03] <Seveas> quuxman, that could be relevant indeed. edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/procps.postinst so it won't trhy to connect to upstart, then configure it
[10:04] <user82> hi. every time i update my system i get a dpkg error about fglrx(ati driver). can i somehow "clean" it from the todo list?
[10:04] <Seveas> also run dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -F install
[10:04] <Seveas> user82, sudo dpkg -P fglrx (this will completely wipe it from your system)
[10:04] <user82> okay..then re-install
[10:04] <user82> will give it a try
[10:05] <quuxman> Seveas: I don't see anything about upstart in the script
[10:05] <puneet> hello
[10:06] <Seveas> quuxman, anything with init or telinit is related
[10:06] <Seveas> quuxman, it's actually in preinst, where it calls the initscript
[10:07] <Seveas> quuxman, it does so in postinst to, via invoke-rc.d
[10:07] <Seveas> just comment those 2 out, you're going to reboot anyway :)
[10:10] <Seveas> quuxman, gotta go now, good luck!
[10:10] <Vorenii> Hi everyone, i just made a stupid mistake, and now i dont know howto fix it.
[10:11] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything.
[10:11] <Vorenii> anyone have an idea on howto fix that?
[10:12] <quuxman> Seveas: I had to remove the line: start procps
[10:13] <evelyette> hi, I can now sucessfully chroot to my directory, but the problem is that chroot doesn't have any information about my users ... so it's printing 1000:1000 uid and git numbers instead of actually a username ... what I need to copy over to the chroot to make those names visible?
[10:14] <Vorenii> Anyone know howto fix my problem, please.
[10:14] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything. Because its broken.
[10:16] <crackguy> how do i kill ntfs-3g? apparently, it's busy holding a mounted device which i wish to umount
[10:17] <snikker> hi, if i run sfdisk on my laptop i've got this warning: "Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary.
[10:17] <snikker> DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently." i've never modified the partitions.
[10:18] <doobien> crackguy, umount /mnt/windows
[10:19] <quuxman> so the error I get when I boot:
[10:19] <quuxman> init: mounted-dev main process (324) terminated with status 1
[10:19] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything. Because its broken.
[10:19] <quuxman> Event: mount-all failed
[10:19] <Vorenii> someone please
[10:20] <snikker> Vorenii: try to remove wine
[10:20] <quuxman> pretty much all I see. When I hit ctrl+alt+del, I see it stopping several services, so it's sucessfully switched to runlevel 2, but I don't see a login prompt
[10:20] <Vorenii> snikker: I tried, but i cant remove it, and i cant install any other program
[10:20] <doobien> crackguy, maybe sudo umount /mnt/windows
[10:20] <Vorenii> it says my aptdeamon is having errors
[10:21] <quuxman> so my machine is pretty worthless. Probably should just reinstall, but that's a pain
[10:22] <cryptk> quuxman, I came in late, can you give a brief rundown of the issue?
[10:22] <zamba> how can i completely disable host key checking when connecting to a host?
[10:22] <quuxman> I installed some packages, and when I rebooted, I no longer get a login prompt
[10:22] <quuxman> I see that error instead. Note that I don't have X11 or gdm start on boot
[10:22] <zamba> i'm connecting to an ip address that always changes the host behind
[10:22] <zamba> and i'm doing this non-interactively
[10:23] <zamba> so i have to skip the "remote host identification has changed" thingy
[10:23] <cryptk> quuxman, what is the error though?
[10:23] <quuxman> cryptk: init: mounted-dev main process (324) terminated with status 1
[10:23] <quuxman> cryptk: Event: mount-all failed
[10:24] <Vorenii> I fixed my error with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <quuxman> I must admit, that I typed "Yes, do as I say!" when apt prompted, which I know is a really bad idea. The last time I did that was many years ago and it caused a similarly terrible situation
[10:25] <cryptk> quuxman, have you tried adding --verbose to the kernel command line in grub before you boot?
[10:25] <quuxman> but I figured it couldn't be too serious, because I had just asked to install mysql-server, so I don't understand how that broke my entire system
[10:25] <cryptk> to see if you can get further clues
[10:25] <quuxman> cryptk: yeah, and it doesn't show any other errors
[10:25] <JamesMR> Hi, I'm getting errors with dpkg when trying to use apt, anyone able to help me? http://pastebin.com/5e1y9fBp
[10:25] <cryptk> or booting into recovery mode and seeing if you can resolve any kind of broken packages
[10:25] <quuxman> cryptk: well, I mean I just removed "quiet". I have not actually tried --verbose
[10:26] <HoboSteau-> hey my cursor dissapeared and i dont know how to get it back
[10:26] <cryptk> removing quiet and --verbose are definitely different
[10:26] <quuxman> cryptk: I'm chrooted in to the system now. procps was failing to configure because it couldn't connect to upstart, but I commented that out, and now all packages are fine
[10:27] <quuxman> cryptk: I will reboot and try --verbose. thanks for the tip
[10:27] <gaelfx> so I started running dd about 2 hours ago and it still isn't finished, I don't suppose there's a way to see progress or anything like that, is there?
[10:27] <cryptk> JamesMR, try this... look in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[10:27] <jrib> gaelfx: look at the file size of the output file?
[10:28] <cryptk> is there an install-info file in there?
[10:28] <resmo> hi
[10:28] <gaelfx> jrib problem is I'm copying a whole partition, and I tried to open the one it's writing to, but nothing happened
[10:28] <phonex01> hi guys im looking for good IDE for c programming unuder linux ?
[10:28] <cryptk> gaelfx, there is definitely a way to get progress
[10:29] <hanyu> ..
[10:29] <cryptk> do you have another command line on the system available?
[10:29] <cryptk> if so `ps -ef | grep dd` to get dd's PID
[10:29] <JamesMR> cryptk: there's an install-info.list (.mdsums, .postinst, .triggers)
[10:29] <HoboSteau-> my cursor decided to disappear does anyone know how to get it back?
[10:29] <cryptk> then `kill -USR1 ####` with the #### being dd's PID
[10:29] <cryptk> check the output of dd --help
[10:30] <resmo> anyone experiencing problems in10.04 with networkmanager and dhcp since the last update? I am not able to get an IP using networkmanager, using dhclient on cli works fine.
[10:30] <cryptk> it explains that sending a USR1 signal to a running dd process makes it display it's stats thus far... the stats will be displayed on the command line where the dd is running, not the one you run the kill from
[10:30] <cryptk> JamesMR, can you cat that install-info.list file?
[10:30] <cryptk> and is it a list of installed files?
[10:31] <JamesMR> cryptk: http://pastebin.ca/2047393
[10:31] <cryptk> gaelfx, did that work for you?
[10:32] <merlo> hello... I broke my HD. I was moving my laptop and it felt down. Ubuntu won't run anymore so i tried reinstalling it. At first the system could run again but then I installed a bunch of updates and things screwup again. So i assume there is a part of my disk that cannot be read anymore. So my question: is it possibile to format my disk in order to avoid the use of its broken part? THX
[10:32] <cryptk> JamesMR, what locale is your system set to? is it supposed to be russian?
[10:32] <JamesMR> cryptk: It's supposed to be British English
[10:32] <HoboSteau-> please anyone, do you know how to get a cursor back
[10:32] <cryptk> gotcha, one moment
[10:33] <cryptk> HoboSteau-, my GUI experience is limited...
[10:33] <HoboSteau-> i avoid it when possible :p
[10:34] <cryptk> JamesMR, are the rest of the .list files in there in brittish english?
[10:34] <buff27> merlo, you might need to replace it, best to test it as a 2nd drive in another PC
[10:35] <JamesMR> cryptk: by the looks of it, no
[10:36] <cryptk> ok, move that install-info.list file to somewhere else, such as your home folder
[10:36] <cryptk> then `apt-get install install-info --reinstall`
[10:36] <queva> Hi. Something is a bit messed up with the encoding on a ubuntu-server of mine. When I ssh from another ubuntu server, and write "äåö", strange things happen. It should be default-installations. Any pointers?
[10:36] <merlo> buff27, i did, it can be accessed. only some parts of the disk are broken in fact when i try to read files located on those parts i get a I/O error. Ubuntu cannot start because some of the files it loads at start up are located on the unaccesbile part. I was wondering if there is a way to tell the system not to write on broken sectors
[10:37] <JamesMR> cryptk: Thanks, you're a star!
[10:37] <cryptk> merlo, sounds like you had a head collision... that drive is unfortunately toast
[10:38] <buff27> merlo, I'm not sure on that, maybe a manufactures test tool, but I would recommend replacing it
[10:38] <cryptk> JamesMR, all I ask in return... I am starting a blog, it will be ramblings of an Ubuntu administrator... give me a couple of topics you would like me to write about
[10:38] <merlo> cryptk, buff27: thx for your advices
[10:39] <queva> i'm gonna localepurge it a bit
[10:39] <cryptk> I mean, you could try using smartmontools to mark bad sectors, but the problem with head collisions is that the head itself is likely damaged as well, which basically means that drive is a ticking time bomb until total failure
[10:39] <JamesMR> cryptk: the most common and easy to fix problem that users come to you with
[10:39] <cryptk> Yeah, I am going to start with those, lol
[10:39] <JamesMR> :P
[10:40] <JamesMR> not sure I can come up with anything much better
[10:40] <cryptk> but the issue is what I typically administer is the worlds largest virtualization cluster (I think it is the worlds largest, if it isn't then it is pretty friggin close)
[10:40] <gaelfx> cryptk: sorry, hang on, let me try
[10:40] <cryptk> so end user issues typically come from this channel or #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <knoppies> cryptk, who owns the virtualization cluster? Google? As for ideas, Im fiddling with multi-touch on the new synaptic touchpads. Ive given up trying to fix it and Im just using emulation. I can't tell if they have fixed the issue (by adding driver support for the new touchpads) I cant even seem to find the bug report on launchpad anymore (I know its there somewhere, I just don't know what its called)
[10:42] <cryptk> knoppies, Rackspace
[10:43] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[10:43] <cryptk> knoppies, unfortunately I can only write articles on how to fix things that I have hardware to test on... I don't have anything with a synaptic touchpad on it
[10:43] <feng> how to logout with command line
[10:43] <knoppies> cryptk, I understand, thanks anyway.
[10:43] <cryptk> uhm... type logout
[10:43] <feng> how to logout my gnome using a command
[10:44] <cryptk> init 2
[10:44] <cryptk> sudo init 2
[10:44] <feng> cryptk: doesn't work
[10:44] <feng> cryptk: bash: logout: not login shell: use 'exit'
[10:45] <cryptk> ahh, didn't quite understand what you were going for
[10:45] <cryptk> yeah, exit will do that
[10:45] <feng> cryptk: I want to logout my X and login again
[10:45] <cryptk> I thought you meant completely exit the GUI on your system and drop to a command line
[10:45] <cryptk> gimmie a moment and I will get you something
[10:45] <gaelfx> cryptk: ok, I'm the kid with the dd problem, and thanks much that your advice worked, however, I have a followup question: if I am copying multiple files, will it only show the progress for the current file, or does it display progress for the whole copy?
[10:46] <cryptk> gaelfx, if you are using dd, then it treats the whole partition as one "big file"
[10:46] <cryptk> dd doesn't care about files, it copies the 1's and 0's so to speak
[10:46] <Haitham> Hello
[10:46] <cryptk> chances are for what you are doing, rsync would have been a better option
[10:47] <cryptk> `rsync -a --progress /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[10:47] <cryptk> feng, can you tell me your exact scenario?
[10:47] <Haitham> I'm having a problem with my Laptop's Keyboard - It's not functioning during Ubuntu installation, try-out or in any Linux distru. for that matter (Tried on Knoppix (Live CD)).
[10:48] <above_the_clouds> Hi. I am having trouble with Evince crashing when I open a PostScript file.  If I issue, from the command line, something like "evince some_file.ps", Evinces starts up and then crashes with the error "Segmentation Fault".
[10:48] <cryptk> like X has hung and you would like to use a different tty to restart it back to the gdm login prompt?
[10:48] <gaelfx> cryptk: so I should probably be pretty worried about the fact that it says only 5.1GB have been copied in about two and a half hours?
[10:48] <researcher123> how can I extract and save images from .pdf file?
[10:48] <feng> cryptk: i am using ubuntu gnome, my two status bars are frozen.
[10:48] <bullgard4> feng: '~$ sudo service gdm stop
[10:48] <Haitham> Touch Pad & laptop's keys aren't working in any Linux distrubtion, any suggestions?
[10:48] <cryptk> yep
[10:48] <cryptk> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:48] <feng> cryptk: i think that if I logout and login again my solve the problem.
[10:48] <ajin> gdm(gnome display manager):-D
[10:49] <cryptk> that will show you a command line
[10:49] <cryptk> then service gdm stop
[10:49] <cryptk> then service gdm start
[10:49] <cryptk> or just service gdm restart will likely work as well
[10:49] <feng> cryptk: ok, i am trying
[10:49] <ajin> feng: you might dig deeper if you want
[10:49] <cryptk> you /may/ need to Ctrl+Alt+F6 after to get back to where X is running at
[10:49] <researcher123> is it possible to extract images from  .pdf file?
[10:50] <ajin> try google to find more
[10:50] <feng> cryptk: service: command not found
[10:50] <cryptk> feng, sudo
[10:50] <cryptk> use the sudo luke
[10:50] <feng> cryptk: i did
[10:50] <cryptk> feng, what distro are you on?
[10:50] <feng> cryptk: distro? 8.04?
[10:50] <cryptk> ahh, that's why
[10:51] <feng> cryptk: then?
[10:51] <Haitham> Touch Pad & laptop's keys aren't working in any Linux distrubtion, any suggestions?
[10:51] <cryptk> look in /etc/init.d and see if there is a gdm in there
[10:51] <smith__> did anyone here has been working with java serial communication?
[10:51] <bullgard4> feng: '~$ sudo service gdm stop' does not work for Ubuntu 8.04.
[10:51] <cryptk> service is part of upstart, 8.04 doesn't have upstart
[10:51] <feng> cryptk: yes
[10:51] <cryptk> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:51] <cryptk> etc
[10:51] <bullgard4> feng: Do an upgrade.
[10:51] <cryptk> that too
[10:51] <kurohyou> hi, i have an at3ion motherboard and having some problemes gettings the 5.1 to work right in my installation, i'm lost what bios options i should use, in the bios there is an option for azalia audio and if on auto i get a front panel select option, but i don't have anu front panel audio, only the ones on my motherboard, do i set he azalia on disabled or on auto and ac97?
[10:51] <cryptk> upgrade that puppy to 10.04
[10:51] <feng> cryptk: I got 10.4, just lazy to burn the disk...
[10:52] <cryptk> assuming you wanna stick with an LTS
[10:52] <smith__> i wanna know how to install javax.comm
[10:52] <cryptk> feng, you don't need a disk if the thing has an internet connection
[10:52] <cryptk> it can upgrade itself
[10:52] <ajin> feng: then you might write 10.04 to USB stick
[10:52] <cryptk> no need for that either, just plug it into the interwebs and upgrade it
[10:52] <totem> kurohyou: please join  ##hardware
[10:52] <toto> test
[10:53] <jrib> upstart has been in ubuntu since 6.10
[10:53] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[10:53] <Haitham> Touch Pad & laptop's keys aren't working in any Linux distrubtion, any suggestions?
[10:54] <cryptk> looks like he got gdm stopped, lol
[10:55] <feng> cryptk: worked and i am back
[10:55] <cryptk> feng, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20LTS%20to%2010.04%20LTS
[10:55] <feng> cryptk: thanks
[10:55] <cryptk> that link explains how to update your 8.04 to 10.04
[10:56] <cryptk> I am assuming that you want to stay on an LTS release since 8.04 is an LTS
[10:56] <feng> cryptk: I am too lazy to upgrade.
[10:56] <cryptk> well, 8.04 is nearing EOL... you aren't going to get anymore updates pretty soon
[10:56] <cryptk> then your upgrade path gets harder
[10:56] <feng> cryptk: really?
[10:57] <Haitham> I'm having a problem with my Laptop's Keyboard - It's not functioning during Ubuntu installation, try-out or in any Linux distru. for that matter (Tried on Knoppix (Live CD)).
[10:57] <cryptk> feng, With the Long Term Support (LTS) version you get three years support on the desktop
[10:58] <cryptk> once natty is released, 8.04 desktop support go's bye bye
[10:58] <feng> cryptk: er...does it mean that I cannot use apt-get to install apps?
[10:58] <cryptk> unless your system is a server (but since you are running Gnome, I doubt that
[10:58] <cryptk> yes
[10:58] <cryptk> the repo's go bye bye
[10:59] <feng> lol, I am using it as a server. I don't even need gnome, cli is ok.
[11:00] <feng> cryptk: I may upgrade later using a disk, network upgrading will eat up my broadband usage.
[11:00] <gaelfx> ok, so dd is not going to work for me to copy my old /home to the new hard drive, all I really need to know is how to keep all of my settings and whatnot from transmission, does anyone know where or what that file is called?
[11:01] <cryptk> gaelfx, does the new drive have a /home on it already?
[11:01] <cryptk> if so, just use this command
[11:01] <cryptk> rsync -a --progress /path/to/old/home /path/to/new/home
[11:01] <atlef> gaelfx: why not use clonezilla to clone your /home?
[11:01] <gaelfx> cryptk: indeed it does
[11:01] <limao> - -...
[11:01] <feng> cryptk: you are awesome, thanks a lot.
[11:01] <gaelfx> cryptk: thanks for that, I hope it works faster than dd :D
[11:01] <cryptk> that will keep the files intact with correct user/group, timestamps etc
[11:02] <cryptk> and output progress info as it go's
[11:02] <Haitham> I'm having a problem with my Laptop's Keyboard - It's not functioning during Ubuntu installation, try-out or in any Linux distru. for that matter (Tried on Knoppix (Live CD)).
[11:02] <gaelfx> I think that my old hard drive is having serious issues, so it's probably why it's slow though
[11:02] <above_the_clouds> Hi.  I am having trouble opening a PostScript file with Evince.  When I issue a command from the terminal, such as "evince some_file.ps", Evince starts up and then crashes with the error "Segmentation Fault".
[11:02] <knoppies> Haitham, what model laptop do you have, when did you buy it (approx year)
[11:02] <Haitham> Both my Touch Pad & Laptop's keys do not function in any Linux distriubtion
[11:03] <Haitham> Acer Aspire 5553G - bought it last year
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> above_the_clouds:  just running evince  does not crash?
[11:03] <gaelfx> cryptk: one last Q, for rsync, do the drives need to be mounted?
[11:03] <cryptk> yes
[11:03] <knoppies> Haitham, I have an Aspire 5740G and mine works fine. Does your keyboard work in bios/windows?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  you have to have filesystems mounted to copy stuff to them
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  and to read from them..
[11:04] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, not true with dd, but with rsync it is
[11:04] <above_the_clouds> Dr_Willis: Yes, Evince works normally with PDF files.
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  unless you are accessing the device/partition directly
[11:04] <Haitham> knoppies, Yes - works fine in BIOS & Windows
[11:04] <cryptk> his initial meathod was with dd, so I understand the confusion
[11:04] <knoppies> Haitham, I suspect its a driver issue. Do other (USB) keyboards work?
[11:04] <gaelfx> haha, thanks for that
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> 'dd' a partiton, access files on a filesystem. :)
[11:04] <atlef> Haitham: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9731159
[11:05] <Haitham> Knoppies, I was using an USB-Mouse, it worked fine but I dont have any USB Keyboards to test on
[11:05] <atlef> Haitham: it seems a bios upgrade is needed
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  be VERY carefull when using dd. one typo = erased hd.
[11:06] <Haitham> atlef, thanks alot - this topic hits the spot.
[11:06] <Deivi_Z> hi, i have a question abouy installing ubuntu via PXE I found this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot but i get an error 'unable to locate configuration file' anyone had expierience with it?
[11:06] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: yes, I've heard of data destroyer before :D I triple checked the drive names before doing it :D
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  ive seen devices  'move about' after reboots where /dev/sdd became /dev/sde and so on.. so watch for that also
[11:07] <doulc> is there any one who have tried fedora ?
[11:08] <bazhang> doulc, wrong channel
[11:08] <bazhang> doulc, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, dd is easily used to access a raw block device as well though, while it can access files on a filesystem, which requires mounting... it can be used on a raw block device as well, which does not require mounting
[11:09] <doulc> sorry. I don't mean that
[11:10] <feng> cryptk: is gnome bad for server?
[11:10] <cryptk> well, it is devinitely not needed
[11:10] <feng> cryptk: understand
[11:10] <cryptk> if you are using a server, typically you want to keep the available resources for the actual work, not a GUI
[11:11] <cryptk> GUI adds overhead... if you absolutely MUST have a GUI on a server, then I would go with something more lightweight
[11:11] <feng> cryptk: that's right, i will disable gui after setting up.
[11:12] <feng> cryptk: but i am just running apache and ntop for home use purpose. It may not need too much resource.
[11:13] <cryptk> that likely doesn't
[11:13] <feng> cryptk: by the way, do you know how to change the cli resolution? does it take more sys resouce for high resolutin?
[11:13] <cryptk> just me, being a server admin, I personally never use a GUI on a server
[11:13] <cryptk> what do you mean by CLI resolution?
[11:14] <feng> cli screen resolution
[11:14] <doulc> how to install rar in ubuntu?
[11:14] <Jacker70> excuse for my bad english: hallo!
[11:14] <feng> the command line interface use a different resolution...i think it 640x480
[11:15] <jrib> !rar | doulc
[11:15] <atlef> doulc: p7zip full
[11:15] <ruan_> p7zip-full
[11:15] <feng> the cli is the terminal when i do ctrl+alt+F1
[11:15] <ruan_> !info p7zip-full
[11:15] <cryptk> ahh, you can set that in many ways
[11:15] <jrib> !tty | feng
[11:16] <cryptk> but for that one, changing it with grub would likely be the best
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> feng:  technically thats the 'consoles'
[11:16] <feng> cryptk: grub? so i need to restart the pc?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> feng:  it is a terminal...  you can have terminal windows in X also.
[11:16] <cryptk> well, if you want it to stick across reboots, changing it in grub is the best way
[11:17] <feng> Dr_Willis: may be TTY is a good name for everyone to understand.
[11:17] <cryptk> check out /etc/default/grub
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> feng:  i doubt if anyone understands what tty means...
[11:17] <DirtyDawg> guys i am trying to disable compositing in this ubunto 10.10 because after enabling it video wont show, i was going to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to say "Composite" "Disavle" but there isnt an xorg.conf any more, help please lol
[11:17] <doulc> ubottu:many thanks
[11:17] <cryptk> yep, tty would be a better name
[11:17] <DirtyDawg> "Disable"*
[11:17] <Jacker70> bye bye!
[11:17] <cryptk> dougl, ubottu is a bot...
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> feng:  to me a tty is a 'serial' terminal hooked up via a serial port/cable. :)
[11:17] <feng> cryptk: if i don't want to reboot and want it to take effect now, how can i do it?
[11:18] <jrib> DirtyDawg: System -> Preferences -> Appearance Properties
[11:18] <feng> Dr_Willis: that's what tty means...you are right.
[11:18] <DirtyDawg> it is set to none in there but Cairo-Dock enabled compositing for me and now i cant turn it off
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> feng:  i used to IRC on green bar 'printer' serial terminals.. years ago.. :) im old...
[11:19] <feng> Dr_Willis: lol, you may be still young, you played computer when you were 3 years old.
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> feng:  when i was 3 we had just reached the moon....
[11:20]  * Dr_Willis goes back to his Timex Sinclare.
[11:20] <feng> Dr_Willis: @_@
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> I finaly got rid of my serial terminals i had in the garrage..  :)  None of my PCs have a serial port any more..
[11:22] <DirtyDawg> ahh solved it, did this at the console : gconftool-2 -s --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
[11:22] <feng> cryptk: /etc/default/grub is not exist
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> DirtyDawg:  i seem to recall some widgit  that gave a compositing on/off toggle.. but cant recall where
[11:23] <syriux> hey do someone know how to configure nvram-wakeup ?
[11:23] <feng> Dr_Willis: that serial port is very different to a USB
[11:23] <cryptk> wait, 8.04...
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> 8.04 uses grub1 i belive
[11:24] <cryptk> yours is just set in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:25] <cryptk> probably gonna want to set a vga line in there to override the default resolution
[11:25] <cryptk> but really... you should update
[11:26] <feng> cryptk: this is not a powerful pc, I am afaid of upgrading.
[11:26] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[11:26] <cryptk> don't fear the upgrade
[11:27] <cryptk> don't run any of the fancy compiz stuff and you will be fine
[11:28] <cryptk> hell, my 11.04 desktop running gnome3, conky, xchat, firefox and transmission is only just barely breaking 1GB ram used
[11:28] <cryptk> oh, and about 8 tabs in firefox
[11:28] <feng> cryptk: ok, i trust you, i will upgrade some time later.
[11:28] <cryptk> if all you are running is apache, ntop, and gnome2, you will be fine... unless you have like 512MB of ram, lol
[11:29] <feng> i do
[11:29] <feng> i have 512mb ram
[11:29] <feng> and the pc is 7 years old.
[11:29] <feng> it's a laptop, centrino.
[11:29] <complete> Good Morning from Hamburg! I have "tab-complete" in my .inputrc so when I hit tab, i get the filename of the first file in the directory. Is there a key to get the LAST file?
[11:30] <feng> cryptk: 1.6G HZ cpu with 512M ram
[11:30] <feng> cryptk: That's why I installed 8.04 rather than 10.04
[11:30] <cryptk> you should still be fine actually... considering that I am also running some special stuff in the background... forgot about my health monitoring stuff which maintains constant connections to some servers
[11:30] <Technicus> Hello . . . I just installed the proprietary video drivers for ATI (I am always leery of doing that).  At the end of the install I got some dependency error messages.  The output is in this paste bin: [ http://pastie.org/1803305 http://pastie.org/1803306 ].  Before I restart, I want to make sure everything is proper, I don't want to find that X has become hosed by this install attempt.  What can I do to troubleshoot the error messages, and
[11:30] <cryptk> (which I am replacing with CloudKick)
[11:31] <Laibsch> complete: I guess you should pastebin the snippet of code you are using
[11:31] <Laibsch> Hi, I run Ubuntu lucid on a netbook with a bluetooth dongle.  My BT headset connects fine and can listen to music with no problems.  I can also speak over VoIP for about 10 seconds, but the BT connection is dropped.  Nothing related in /var/log/syslog.  How do I find out what the problem is?
[11:31] <feng> cryptk: I think it will be fine, as I don't really need a GUI.
[11:32] <cryptk> yep, if you are using it as a server, then learn how to work it like a server... it will teach you A LOT about how linux really works
[11:32] <feng> cryptk: I will stop using gnome after setting up. I am using X as I need firefox to google.
[11:32] <cryptk> lynx, lol
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> w3m
[11:32] <cryptk> command line web browser
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:32] <feng> cryptk: lynx...that's painful
[11:32] <cryptk> haha
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> I recallone of those consolebrowsers having a graphics mode.
[11:33] <cryptk> second computer
[11:33] <feng> Dr_Willis: links2
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> these days.. cell phone can work as a decent browser. :)
[11:33] <cryptk> hell, all the servers I work on are located far away from me... having a GUI on them wouldn't even do me any good,lol
[11:34] <feng> cryptk: well, let's back to the resolution setting, I found the grub menulist file, what should i change?
[11:35] <cryptk> you are gonna need to adjust the framebuffer settings
[11:35] <someone> hi everyone
[11:35] <someone> in ubuntu 11.04
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> someone:  see #ubuntu+1 for 11.04
[11:36] <Guest21820> where is the update catalgoe in software center ?
[11:36] <syriux> 11 days left before Ubuntu 11.04 !
[11:36] <syriux> almost 180 days left before 11.10
[11:36] <Guest21820> ok
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> they should push it back a month so its 11.11. :) then they an relases it on the 11th!
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> 11.11.11
[11:37] <coz_> good day all
[11:37] <syriux> it would be fun but they relase on april and october from the beginning
[11:37] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[11:38] <Guest54424> is 11.04 better than 10.10? i think 10.10 is wonderful
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Guest54424:  use what you like.
[11:38] <feng> cryptk: I set this before, I think that I can find the info on my blog. thank, mate, I will work it out by myself.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Thres going to be a lot of people upset with 11.04
[11:38] <Guest21820> Dr_Willis: thanks
[11:38] <oxlade39> hello, is anyone able to help with networking issues? My ubuntu box is connected wirelessly and can see the internet and other wired machines but not the wireless ones
[11:38] <cryptk> you are going to be looking to set something like vga=XXXX
[11:39] <cryptk> what that XXXX is will vary depending on what your system can do
[11:39] <huddy> oxlade39, sounds like a router issue.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> oxlade39:  ive seen some wireless routers have security settings that seperate the wireed from the wireless networks.
[11:39] <knoppies> oxlade39, that sounds like the router you are using has an option set which isolates wireless devices for security reasons.
[11:39] <huddy> what Dr_Willis  said.
[11:39] <syriux> Guest54424 : dunno, probably ;)
[11:40] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, I dont think it is quite that, but rather isolating each wireless device from each other.
[11:40] <Guest54424> I'm looking forward to seeing what's new in 11.04.
[11:40] <MeglaW> hi, i just installed the latest iso on a laptop, and i want to stress the shit out of it like running stress (that apt cant find) or some variant of 3dmark that windows offers
[11:40] <MeglaW> pls help
[11:40] <FloodBot3> MeglaW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> I plan on avoiding this support room for a few weeks after 11.04 comes out. :) this place will be hectic.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> MeglaW:  thers benchmark apps in teh repos.. or at some web sites ive seen.
[11:41] <knoppies> MeglaW, burn comes to mind, have you googled for benchmark apps that are in ubuntu repos, I know there are a few.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> I dont see the point in stressing it out. :)
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> !info burn
[11:42] <robbiethe1st> MeglaW: I'd look at unigine heaven: http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> !find benchmark
[11:42] <robbiethe1st> MeglaW: It's a cross-platform OpenGL/directX benchmark.
[11:44] <feng> cryptk: you are totally right, need to add vga=xxx under the line kernel.
[11:44] <feng> cryptk: but there is not a xxx number to fix my widescreen 1280x768
[11:44] <feng> fit
[11:44] <gaelfx> how long does it usually take to create an ext4 partition? does it depend on size?
[11:44] <feng> gaelfx: I think so...
[11:45] <faryshta> gaelfx, yes it depends on size and it takes a while.
[11:45] <gaelfx> so a 900GB partition should take like 20 minutes?
[11:45] <syriux> MeglaW : Google is probably your friend
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  i wouldent think it would take that long. but it will take a few min
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  my 3TB took a while. :) but i  dont thinkit was more then an hr.
[11:46] <zxh728> # /join R
[11:48] <syriux> see you :)
[11:48] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[11:49] <Guest94617> hey, I was wondering if anyone could give me a quick hand getting an ipod touch to work with rhythmbox
[11:50] <oxlade39> Hi, sorry I posted earlier about my problems with wireless ubuntu and not being about to see other wireless boxes on the local network but my client was dead so couldn't see the detail for your replies. I did see that it's probably a routing problem and I've checked the routing table but can't see any obvious problems
[11:50] <wingnut2626> Why does my Gfceu crash when i attempt to save the state?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> !info gfceu
[11:52] <oxlade39> what are the possible routing options for my wireless ubuntu box? Can I just make it route all traffic via the wireless router? Wouldn't it do that anyway?
[11:52] <mushiba> hi, i was wondering if there is any way to restore the mbr without a windows floppy/cd (my laptop has neither)
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> wingnut2626:  perhaps its the fceu emulator that scrashing not the gfceu interface/front end.
[11:52] <Kallc> I need help. I want to make 15 workstation for school project. I want to use one PC  with 3 Network Card each with 5 ports, and 15 monitors placed on each desk, connected through switches with the PC. How can I do this with ubuntu?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> wingnut2626:  theres other NES emulators out there.
[11:53] <wingnut2626> so what can i do?
[11:53] <wingnut2626> what other ones?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  15 moniotors with no actual pcs ?
[11:53] <Kallc> yes
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  theres some ways to do that.. but it will require adational hardware I recall.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  you would be better off geting some low end pcs
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> I think the term is 'multiseat' for what you want to do Kallc
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  and even then.. you dont just use network cards..
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> 1 PC ==> special hardware --> 2+ Monitors/keyboards/mice    acting like 2 seperate pcs., is multiseating
[11:56] <ome> and for the other way you need a KVM, just FYI.
[11:56] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: They were  already connected in the school from some guy, its just now something went wrong and I need to repair it
[11:57] <oxlade39> if I have ubuntu boxes 'bedroom' (wireless) and 'lounge' (wired) and a macbook (wireless) why would I be able to ssh from the macbook to the lounge to the bedroom but not from the macbook to the bedroom, or the bedroom to the macbook
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  i have to ask.. what are the network cables plugging into?
[11:57] <robbiethe1st> Kallc: So what's it doing now?
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> and why couuldent it use a normal network layout..
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Unless 'monitor
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Unless 'monitor' = X terminal.. in your case..
[11:58] <swatto> If I wanted to SSH in to my computers externally - how would I do it because both machines would be on but the router will only forward to one machine  - would i have to change the ssh default port on the other machine?
[11:58] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: each of them are plug in some switch with the ports for Mouse, Keyboard, and monitor + Network cable
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  you could do it that way. Or ssh to pc 1, then from there ssh to pc2
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  so some sort of workstation 'device' that basically is a mini-pc or similer..
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  so..err.. this is related to Ubuntu support how exactly?
[11:59] <swatto> how can i change the default ssh port?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:00] <swatto> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:00] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: Coz all users are using same harddrive, and can log in with diffrent usernames
[12:00] <candyban__> swatto, you can also change the port on the router
[12:00] <oxlade39> swatto: couldn't you set up a port forward on the router so you ssh in on a specific port which is forwarded to the default.
[12:01] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: The OS installed on the PC is ubuntu
[12:01] <gold_chocobo> why wouldn't this command a howto has, work? sudo apt-get hold libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4
[12:01] <Kallc> actually its edubuntu
[12:01] <Hedgehog456> How do I change the resolution?
[12:02] <feng> Hedgehog456: ....did i just asked this question....
[12:02] <swatto> hmm true yes, think im just gonna change the default ssh port on this machine to 23
[12:02] <Hedgehog456> feng: did you?
[12:02] <candyban__> swatto,should be something like  iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport newsshport -j DNAT --to ip internalhost:ssh
[12:02] <candyban__> swatto, 23 is usually reserved for telnet :)
[12:03] <swatto> oh..ok well 25?
[12:03] <QuiSE> Need help setting up Conkyrc, were do I start?
[12:03] <candyban__> swatto, that would be smtp :p
[12:03] <swatto> godammit
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Kallc:  so whats not working with it? whats the brand/make on the little box's also.
[12:03] <MeglaW> thx robbiethe1st i´ll have a look. the laptop suffers from random reboots in windows but has so far been surfing along nicely in ubuntu for 24h. thought i´d stress it a bit
[12:03] <robbiethe1st> k
[12:03] <swatto> 30?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> QuiSE:  conky homepage and its rather verbose docs and forums.. :)
[12:03] <candyban__> swatto, use something like 2222 or 1022
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> QuiSE:  you can spend weeks twiddling with conkyrc
[12:04] <Hedgehog456> Anyone know how to do it?
[12:04] <candyban__> swatto, but you can use 23 if you want ... you can choose ... if you do not use telnet, then you can use port 23 without any problems
[12:04] <feng> Hedgehog456: what resolution?
[12:04] <gold_chocobo> can anyone help me get an ipod touch working? I don't think it's detecting/automounting. df doesn't show it.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> !ipod | gold_chocobo
[12:05] <Hedgehog456> feng: screen resolution
[12:05] <Hedgehog456> some stupid wine program altered it
[12:05] <feng> Hedgehog456: X or terminal?
[12:05] <QuiSE> Dr_Willis, yeah that was my plan for the weekend actually :) but my conky got messed up badly
[12:05] <Hedgehog456> feng: X
[12:05] <Hedgehog456> I think
[12:05] <feng> Hedgehog456: that's differ from my question.haha
[12:06] <Hedgehog456> feng: do you know the answer?
[12:06] <feng> Hedgehog456: goto System->preference->screen resolution
[12:06] <gold_chocobo> Dr_Willis, I was going to attempt the 'right way' since the instructions seemed pretty straight forward, but the second command doesn't work: sudo apt-get hold libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4
[12:06] <gold_chocobo> should that command be sudo apt-get install hold ... etc
[12:06] <Hedgehog456> feng: no such option
[12:07] <Kallc> Dr_Willis:I didnt get the name of the boxes.I dont know what is wrong with it. Now I installed ubuntu on the PC, and I think I need to create something like virtual workspace for each monitor, I read that I need to install and use a DHCP server and tftp
[12:07] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: But I am not into this matter so good so I dont know how to do it
[12:08] <edwinkcw> Hedgehog456: how about system->preference->monitor
[12:08] <robbiethe1st> Kallc: Post your situation with pictures to the Ubuntu forums.
[12:08] <Hedgehog456> Aha, thanks
[12:08] <Hedgehog456> edwinkcw: thanks
[12:08] <edwinkcw> Hedgehog456: you are welcome.
[12:09] <edwinkcw> Hedgehog456: in fact, I don't know what your problem is, just know that you need to have a setting of screen resolution :P
[12:09] <Naynay> My EEEPC randomly freezes. I can't repeat it reliably, but once I ended up with a kernel panic and some output. Looks like Xorg is to blame with spinlocks or something
[12:09] <Kallc> robbiethe1st: I'll try
[12:10] <edwinkcw> Naynay: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:10] <Hedgehog456> edwinkcw: I just needed to find the screen resolution thingies. thanks!
[12:10] <Naynay> latest 10.10 ...  latest updates
[12:11] <Naynay> I initially thought it was sleep options on the laptop, but when I turned them off I still got occasional lockups. I know Xorg can freeze the system if it gets unhappy
[12:11] <edwinkcw> Naynay: umm...I don't know why it is, I faced this problem before in my desktop computer. My solution is to install 10.04.
[12:12] <Naynay> yeah, prolly the system is too bleeding edge ^^;
[12:12] <Naynay> is Natty using Xorg or soemthing else now?
[12:12] <rumpe1> Naynay, still X
[12:13] <Naynay> is there some way I can recover the kernel panic dump?
[12:13] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:13] <sobersabre> I'm trying to extend the ulimit of www-data user.
[12:13] <gold_chocobo> there's also the fact that ipheth-utils package doesnt seem to be able to be found
[12:13] <sobersabre> (nofile)
[12:14] <sobersabre> I am doing this with editing of /etc/security/limits.conf
[12:14] <sobersabre> I created this entry:
[12:14] <sobersabre> @www-data   hard  nofile   5120
[12:14] <sobersabre> then I ran su - www-data
[12:14] <sobersabre> and ran: ulimit -a
[12:14] <ooxi> hi, when i start the program sk2ps (from package skencil) it fails and tells me to install the package python-xml
[12:14] <sobersabre> and there's no effect of what I did.
[12:14] <ooxi> but that package does not exist since hardy
[12:14] <sobersabre> what have I done wrong ?
[12:14] <ooxi> (using 10.10)
[12:15] <swatto> Testing SSH now on port 2222 but getting no route to host :( port forwarded on router and allowed through firestarter, config file changed too
[12:15] <coz_> ooxi,   have you looked into inkscape instead of skencil?
[12:16] <ooxi> coz_ i need an automatic way of transforming svg to pdf. do you know how to run inkscape from command line?
[12:16] <coz_> ooxi,  oh yes inkscape does it well I have made several posters that way
[12:16] <coz_> ooxi,  let me link to one so you can see
[12:16] <candyban__> swatto, are you sure it is running on port 2222 ? (netstat -ntpl )
[12:17] <coz_> ooxi,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Posters/4.pdf
[12:17] <swatto> candyban__, ahh no its not according to that listing
[12:18] <coz_> ooxi,  simply Save as  and in the pull down you can choose   .pdf
[12:18] <ooxi> coz_ you are right, --export-ps was the option i  was looking for
[12:18] <ooxi> nethertheless the skencil package has a bug :-(
[12:18] <ooxi> but i don't need it no more :-)
[12:18] <coz_> ooxi,  you will prefer inkscape over skencil which is  very old application
[12:18] <swatto> Its still listening on 22 candyban__ ? :(
[12:19] <candyban__> swatto, you can have it running on 2 ports (just to make sure you can access it via the "normal" port on your local network)
[12:19] <candyban__> swatto, did you restart sshd ?
[12:19] <swatto> no lol what an idiot i am
[12:19] <swatto> two secs
[12:19] <feng> cryptk: see you.
[12:21] <swatto> candyban__, right its now running on 2222 but still cant get a connection
[12:22] <candyban__> swatto, can you access it from another host in your network on port 2222 ?
[12:22] <swatto> will give it a go, two secs
[12:22] <ejardim> hi all...
[12:22] <ndxtg> does anyone know how to execute 2 commands on 1 call? I need to run "java Main" and "mkdir bug" on one call but not sure how to do so
[12:23] <ejardim> > java Main & mkdir bug
[12:23] <quarksalber> hi, what does "hard coated h3 anti-glare" mean? is it matt or does it glare?
[12:23] <bazhang> quarksalber, ##hardware
[12:24] <ndxtg> ejardim: thank you
[12:24] <quarksalber> thx
[12:24] <swatto> candyban__, yep
[12:24] <ejardim> ndxtg: welcome
[12:24] <candyban__> swatto, then the problem appears to be on your router
[12:25] <candyban__> swatto, you are trying to connect to port 2222 on your gateways external interface,right ?
[12:25] <ejardim> help on ubuntu + hardware support can be here?
[12:25] <candyban__> swatto, and double check for typos
[12:25] <bazhang> ejardim, just ubuntu
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> ejardim:  depends on the hardware and what the issue is
[12:26] <swatto_> candyban__, yep bloody typo, im still half asleep
[12:27] <ejardim> I will buy a new desktop computer and a new laptop computer, so I want to know the best hardware to avoid problems!!!
[12:27] <bazhang> !hcl > ejardim
[12:27] <red2kic> ejardim: Make it interesting. Build your own.
[12:27] <coz_> ejardim,  you can go to system7  to check for systems
[12:28] <Guest53809> hello everyone
[12:28] <smw> hi Guest53809
[12:29] <Chrisev> hola
[12:29] <ejardim> coz_:  what is system7?
[12:29] <QuiSE> I can't find a command to remove Conky from the Desktop, just stop it.
[12:30] <ejardim> coz_:  any link?
[12:30] <coz_> ejardim,   actually it is  system76     http://www.system76.com/
[12:30] <podman99> hey all ... my ssh session dropped while doing do-release-upgrade ...,. running on pts/0 is there a way to reconnect to complette the install?
[12:30] <Chrisev> alguna chica que hable español
[12:30] <bazhang> !es | Chrisev
[12:30] <coz_> ejardim,  there is also a  list of  companies that actually sell  linux systems  here    http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23168/
[12:31] <ejardim> laptop is easier since it is always a bundle that someone has already tested...
[12:32] <ejardim> however for desktop... building myself... it's a kind of diferent
[12:32] <podman99> how can i reconnect to a died ssh connection... i have a do-relase-upgrade running
[12:32] <ejardim> first of all... mobo...   MSI P67 PRO3
[12:32] <ejardim> anyone with this mobo?
[12:32] <ejardim> or which P67 mobo do you have?
[12:32] <bazhang> ejardim, this is offtopic for here
[12:33] <bazhang> ejardim, ##hardware
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> podman99:  thats the sort of 'issue' screen was made for.. but I know of no way to reconnect to  one without using screen or tmux  to begin with
[12:33] <ejardim> bazhang: is a hardware build configuration for ubuntu.... !?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> ejardim:  avoide ATI video cards.. stick with nvidia or Intel.
[12:33] <bazhang> ejardim, dont poll here, and thats offtopic here
[12:33] <ejardim> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:33] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: oh...why is that
[12:33] <podman99> Dr_Willis: how can i restart do-release-upgrade?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> ejardim:  other then that.. its all about budget
[12:34] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: I used ATI for all computers even for my laptop
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> podman99:  i know of no way to do it. It possibly died when the ssh connection died
[12:34] <edwinkcw> it works fine basically
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> edwinkcw:  I have had many many many NOT work fine.
[12:34] <podman99> Dr_Willis: its still running unfortunatly awaiting user input
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> edwinkcw:  You have been lucky.
[12:34] <cris> hola
[12:34] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: if I know that, I won't buy ATI display card.
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Nvidia -> Intel -> ATi -> ANy others even exist? Heh
[12:35] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: but ATI provides their own linux driver also
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> definatly run away from SIS...
[12:35] <candyban__> Dr_Willis, Matrox :)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> edwinkcw:  and sometimes the ati drivers actually work.. some times they dont..
[12:35] <cris> no hay ningiun español
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> I would pick ATi over SIS... but thats about it. :)
[12:35] <bazhang> !es | cris
[12:36] <Chrisev> hola
[12:36] <ejardim> Dr_Willis, I would by a mid-range nvidia:  GTS450
[12:36] <cris> de donde eres
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ejardim:  its all a matter of what youa re doing and your budget.
[12:36] <bazhang> Chrisev, its english here. cris you too  /join #ubuntu-es
[12:37] <pozic> Dr_Willis: can you tell me one application which does not work because of ATI?
[12:37] <ejardim> Dr_Willis: by => buy
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> pozic:  on this (my only ati system) here. I have a great many linux disrtos that can not get the ati drivers going on it.
[12:37] <coz_> ejardim,  and I would check those links to see the companies that have already tested the hardware with ubuntu / linux for reliable systems
[12:37] <ejardim> Dr_Willis: For mobo? have you experienced any P67?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> pozic:  i have also had issues with ATI dropping support for my older ati systems. (i no longer have them, i gave them away)
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> ejardim:  i hvent built a pc in ages.
[12:38] <pozic> Dr_Willis: nvidia also drops support.
[12:38] <psalden> I'm currently trying to get fglrx drivers to give me a smooth experience with unity etc... which isn't exactly happening. Anyone else who got this fixed or has good hopes for it to be fixed in future updates? :)
[12:38] <ejardim> coz_:  I had googling!!!
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> pozic:  but amazing enough. my old nvidia systems still work..
[12:38] <gold_chocobo> can anyone tell me why this command from the ipod howto won't work? "sudo apt-get hold libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4" It gives the error: E: invalid operation hold
[12:38] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: then you are lucky
[12:38] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: I found the network cards the school use it. I'll send you a link
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ATI has a history of promising more then it delivers. i dont plan on buying ATi any time soon. untill they start getting a better Rep.
[12:39] <Kallc> Dr_Willis: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4271986&CatId=3509
[12:39] <pozic> Dr_Willis: they do drop support. It might just take longer.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> I see no reason to perfer ATI over Nvidia at this time.
[12:39] <pozic> Dr_Willis: ATI integer performance is better.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Now for a windows gameing machine... then youmay want ati over nvidia.. it depends on yoru games.
[12:39] <edwinkcw> Dr_Willis: in fact, there is no a better display card for ubuntu
[12:40] <Jemt> Hello guys. I'm changing graphics adapter regularly (primarily ATI and NVidia). Will X/Ubuntu be able to handle that? Or will it break if I install nVidia drivers and then switch to a ATI graphics adapter ?
[12:40] <edwinkcw> ATI and Nvidia can work well
[12:40] <edwinkcw> it depends on the model and the support of Ubuntu
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> 'can' and 'do' is the issue.
[12:40] <pozic> I think all issues with ATI cards on Linux come from people who want to play Windows games on Linux.
[12:40] <edwinkcw> pozic: I am an exception
[12:40] <pozic> That is, wine has some bugs, game developers do not test with ATI cards.
[12:40]  * psalden doesn't want to play games on linux and just notices how moving windows and everything is very slow with fglrx
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> pozic:  i couldent even get the fglrx drivers working right on this box. finally i tried enoguh ubuntu variants that oen worked. :)
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> but thats more disrto issues i guess.
[12:41] <pozic> psalden: compiz?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> but i dont expect much from a $250 desktop machine.
[12:41] <psalden> does this for unity, gnome3, xfce with compositing, etc
[12:41] <coz_> :)
[12:41] <psalden> well no etc, just those 3
[12:42] <BullShark> hi all
[12:42] <Jemt> So, Ubuntu will be able to unload/load the appropriate drivers if I change to another graphics card?
[12:42] <pozic> psalden: have you considered that perhaps those people have no ability to program?
[12:42] <BullShark> who needs help with linux/ubuntu today?
[12:42] <Jemt> Even though I installed NVidia drivers through Jockey (additional drivers)
[12:42] <coz_> Jemt,  that seems reasonable to assume ..yes
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  in the past ive had to uninstll some drivers and install the proper ones.. it depends on the changes you make
[12:42] <Jemt> Good, I'll give it a try
[12:42] <red2kic> Jemt: Unactivate the drivers first.
[12:42] <red2kic> Deactivate*
[12:42] <_|pegasus|_> Hello ;) I reinstalled my system. I've a backup of my home folder which i wanted to use - but the permissions ran me into trouble. What's the default for my /home/user folder in relation to its permissions?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  i had an old system where  the nvidia card required an older driver.. i upgraded the card to a MUCH newer one. had to remove old, install differnt version
[12:42] <pozic> If you cannot get drivers to work for supported hardware, it simply is PEBKAC.
[12:42] <coz_> Jemt,   ignore what I just said,, Dr_Willis  is most likely correct about this since I nearly never use  ati
[12:43] <Kre10s> hey! are the repo servers down? synaptic stalls when i want to download packages...
[12:43] <BullShark> i hate that ubuntu is making it very near impossible to install the driver (just download from nvidia.com to get the very latest). i can do it in debian, arch, etc
[12:43] <coz_> Jemt,  the real issue would be  intel / nvidia
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  im down to 1 ati system :) so i dont use ati much any more either. Other then helping friends get their ati systems going.
[12:43] <Jemt> coz_: Why ?
[12:43] <BullShark> it should be a choice, not a must do it our way
[12:43] <candyban__> pozic, or broken hardware ?
[12:43] <red2kic> BullShark: You're doing it wrong. Look in Systems --> Additional Drivers.
[12:43] <psalden> pozic: I don't need to blame anyone for this, I would just like to see it working :)
[12:43] <pozic> candyban__: yes, but then you can just return it.
[12:43] <BullShark> Kre10s >>> no they are not down. its just u. try different mirrors perhaps
[12:44] <coz_> Jemt,   intel / nvidia drivers on the same system  have produced some very strange  outcomes....one is desktop is completely upside down and reversed
[12:44] <red2kic> BullShark: Oh you wanted latest nvidia drivers? Meh. (I'm not on Ubuntu).
[12:44] <candyban__> pozic, depends how old the hardware is
[12:44] <coz_> Jemt,  at least that situation the system worked  if you stood on your head :)
[12:44] <pozic> psalden: which hardware do you have?
[12:44] <BullShark> red2kic >>> well ubuntu has it's good and bad like most things
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Intel has had issues with some of their chipsets in recent months.  due to some odd licening issues they did. I forget what intel chipsets to avoid.
[12:44] <Jemt> coz_: Crazy :)
[12:44] <psalden> radeon 6970, pozic
[12:44] <sobersabre> hi
[12:44] <pozic> candyban__: yes, but if it used to work and then stops working you know it is broken and you need to get your wallet.
[12:44] <coz_> Jemt,  and in that situation the best solution would be to remove the nvidia driver
[12:44] <sobersabre> can somebody point me out to the right direction on setting nofile ulimit for a process ?
[12:45] <Jemt> Well, this certainly rules out using Ubuntu from a USB stick for gaming
[12:45] <sobersabre> I tried /etc/security/limits.conf; /etc/profile
[12:45] <BullShark> so i want wayland good and stable, yeah can't wait. then ati can produce a good driver. i will buy a fucking monster beast ATI card
[12:45] <Jemt> I wouldn't be able to move the installation between different computers
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  if you want to move it from one pc to another.. yes. that can be an issue.
[12:45] <vhd> anyone know how to invoke a script from the CompizConfig commands?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  I am running from a USB flash right now for this pc. I make one 'repair/rescue' flash for each pc i got.
[12:45] <BullShark> vhd >>> it's easy
[12:46] <vhd> BullShark, ">>>" or you just stating that its easy?
[12:46] <Jemt> Dr_Willis: I use Ubuntu on USB sticks all the time. It seems to work fine, as long as Jockey (Additional Drivers) is not used to install GFX drivers
[12:46] <candyban__> pozic, maybe something else (besides the hardware) changed and made it stop working
[12:46] <Jemt> (and I move them around a lot)
[12:47] <Jemt> It this known to cause problems ?
[12:47] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: This may be unnecessary but you might want to chmod your new home directory.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  i do full installs.. :)  they can have issues as you said.
[12:47] <pozic> candyban__: in that case you also know that you changed something.
[12:47] <candyban__> pozic, didn't follow the whole conversation, but blaming non-working hardware by default to pebcac is too general
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Jemt:  a live-cd install shouldent have issues.. but then you dont get teh full driver speeds
[12:47] <_|pegasus|_> rad2kic: I don't have permissions to all my folders... :)
[12:47] <candyban__> pozic, like a windows update that may break you linux install?
[12:48] <BullShark> vhd >>> no im serious, join up my channel and we i can help
[12:48] <candyban__> pozic, or a change of dhcp software on the router by the sysadmin?
[12:48] <Jemt> Dr_Willis: Well, my USB sticks is pretty much just the Live CD package. No additional drivers are installed except for WiFi ones
[12:48] <pozic> candyban__: I never had that. I also think that is impossible.
[12:48] <vhd> huh, i dont want to join your channel, either you know and want to help me or you dont.
[12:48] <Kallc> BullShark: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4271986&CatId=3509  With this NIC cards I need to connected 15 monitors on one PC using ubuntu. How can I do that? And do I need drivers for this cards?
[12:48] <BullShark> vhd >>> im looking to get my channel to grow a little, so if u want to become visit it, i am willing to help, computer science, linux, programming, ubuntu, hardware, etc etc
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> I have enought issues with windows updates breaking windows. :)
[12:48] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/new/home"
[12:48] <Jemt> Hehe :)
[12:49] <candyban__> pozic, it's not because you never had such a thing that it is impossible
[12:49] <BullShark> vhd >>> well if u don't want to join my channel, then we don't want you there
[12:49] <psalden> so does anyone happen to be running the fglrx driver 'succesfully' with the new ubuntu beta variants? Because if it's possible, I'd surely like to know how :)
[12:49] <pozic> candyban__: I know that.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> psalden:  i havent tested that yet. :)
[12:49] <vhd> BullShark, seriously, this is a place to help one another, not spam.
[12:50] <BullShark> vhd >>> and if u came in with an attitude to ##blackhats, not a wise idea. if you come in and our cool with the people (they all know one another), you have no problem, but since you act like a bad attitude, best to stay out
[12:50] <_|pegasus|_> Many Thnx @ red2kic!!!!
[12:50] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: No problem. <3
[12:50] <BullShark> vhd >>> talk some more shit to me
[12:50] <bazhang> BullShark, thats enough
[12:50] <bazhang> BullShark, stop it now
[12:51] <vhd> bazhang, I am new to irc, how can I set him to ignore, he is pm me now.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> vhd:  depends on your irc client.
[12:52] <BullShark> as i was saying, i like to help people, and if they want to join my channel as well, that is fine too
[12:52] <vhd> cool ill google it then
[12:52] <bazhang> vhd, what client
[12:52] <yuskhanzab> i have question here, have anyone tried gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.10?
[12:52] <yuskhanzab> how it work?
[12:54] <_|pegasus|_> red2kic: Do you know what ~/user/.gvfs is?
[12:54] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: Yes. It's for filesharing. SMB, NFS, etc.
[12:54] <red2kic> Virtual filesystem.
[12:54] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[12:54] <_|pegasus|_> red2kic: That file won't change the permission
[12:55] <kinux_> Hello everybody, from france...
[12:55] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: Delete that folder. It'll be recreated when you need it.
[12:55] <_|pegasus|_> red2kic: Access denied (and im root for this...)
[12:56] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! I search this: http://www.guiadopc.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/cdconcept.png. But it for the Ubuntu 10.10.
[12:56] <dEhiN> does ubuntu have a command-line package manager similar to aptitude in debian? or is synaptic the only front-end to dpkg?
[12:56] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: Meh. Is anything from network mounted?
[12:56] <red2kic> dEhiN: Same thing.
[12:56] <erUSUL> dEhiN: ubuntu has aptitude ; just install it
[12:57] <_|pegasus|_> red2kic: only the internet via eth0
[12:57] <dEhiN> erUSUL: thanks
[12:57] <BullShark> bazhang >>> u get that PM?
[12:58] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: I'm not too concerned about that folder. Try it at other time.
[12:58] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: Also, "rm -rfv ~/users/.gvfs" ?
[12:58] <_|pegasus|_> red2kic: btw: It is not a folder, it is a file.
[12:59] <rumpe1> removing .gvfs is like removing /media , /mnt ...
[12:59] <_|pegasus|_> Is it default, that this file has no permission to nobody?
[13:00] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: dr-x------ (directory, user execution)
[13:00] <erUSUL> why would you need ot remove it?
[13:00] <resmo> hi, anyone experiencing problems in10.04 with networkmanager and dhcp since the last update? I am not able to get an IP using networkmanager, using dhclient on cli works fine.
[13:01] <_|pegasus|_> I only made a recovery and wanted to get permissions back to my homedir - nothing but that.
[13:01] <haitham> Is there like a program to view current Partitions' settings?
[13:01] <red2kic> erUSUL: Permission issues. He had to chown his backup home directory. Everything but gvfs
[13:01] <atlef> haitham: gparted
[13:02] <red2kic> _|pegasus|_: You might want to do it in TTY when Gnome/GDM/X11 isn't running.
[13:02] <_|pegasus|_> erUSUL: But i ran into trouble: I copied my folders to my new homedir - put the permission changed somehow. i only wanted to restore them too and this is the file that i can not touch - not even as root
[13:02] <haitham> atlef, thanks - and btw, touch pad & laptop's keys are working now (finally installed), thanks. :-)
[13:02] <rumpe1> _|pegasus|_, you probably wont need to touch it anyway...
[13:02] <haitham> BIOS updated was needed
[13:02] <atlef> haitham: good for you
[13:03] <Supertom> hi
[13:03] <_|pegasus|_> rumpe1: The only question is: Is it important to change its permission? If the system can access it - i don't need that file for my work, so i can leave it as it is.
[13:04] <_|pegasus|_> Means: I don't care about that file...
[13:04] <erUSUL> _|pegasus|_: what is « ls -ld ~/.gvfs/ » output?
[13:05] <sobersabre> ok, I got the solution to limits.
[13:05] <rumpe1> _|pegasus|_, well ... i never remember any problems with .gvfs, except warnings from copy-tools. If you can't automount sticks, then you should probably check it. But i guess, it will be checked by gnome itself...
[13:06] <sobersabre> the problem was in the fact that I became the user without going through "login" process.
[13:06] <sam_> i can't seem to install gimp
[13:06] <sam_> the servers aren't responding?
[13:06] <_|pegasus|_> dr-x------ 2 achim achim 0 2011-04-17 12:28 /home/achim/.gvfs/
[13:06] <_|pegasus|_> achim@pegasus-MS-7388:~$
[13:06] <sobersabre> and so did all the processes (www-data is never logging in)
[13:06] <sobersabre> I edited /etc/pam.d/su and uncommented pam_limits usage.
[13:06] <sobersabre> that did the trick.
[13:06] <sobersabre> of course limits.conf should be correct enough to not mess up the whole su thing.
[13:07] <sam_> both  ubuntu software center and synaptic aren't letting me download gimp - any ideas?
[13:07] <_|pegasus|_> erUSUL: dr-x------ 2 achim achim 0 2011-04-17 12:28 /home/achim/.gvfs/
[13:07] <erUSUL> _|pegasus|_: chmod u+w ~/.gvfs/
[13:07] <erUSUL> sam_: what error do you get?
[13:08] <_|pegasus|_> erUSUL: chmod: cannot access `/home/achim/.gvfs/': Permission denied
[13:08] <sam_> erUSUL Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gimp/libgimp2.0_2.6.10-1ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> sam_:  update the listing, upgrade, try it again.
[13:08] <haitham> During partitioning (while installing) i created a 6.50 GBs part. w/ mout point (root / ) and another 90GBs w/ mount point (/usr/local) figured this would be the one for Music / Documents and so on but when I go to Personal Folders they all show capacity (3.1GB) - Have i done something wrong?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> sam_:  its possible that server is down.
[13:09] <haitham> mount point*
[13:09] <erUSUL> sam_: mirror error. wait until the mirror recovers or change mirrors
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> sam_:  i seem to recall someone else having an issue with that esarlier today
[13:09] <sam_> how would i change mirrors
[13:09] <sam_> if the server is down
[13:09] <rumpe1> haitham, /home would have been a better idea instead of /usr/local...
[13:09] <red2kic> sam_: Software Sources.
[13:09] <bazhang> sam_, in synaptic package manager
[13:10] <bazhang> red2kic, thats gone in maverick
[13:10] <zovik> Hi there to everyone... I need help with configuring my bttv Prolink tv card... it doesnt work in any application...
[13:10] <red2kic> bazhang: Oh. Why is that?
[13:10] <haitham> rumpel - Is it safe/possible to change that using gparted?
[13:11] <zovik> red2kic, are asking me
[13:11] <red2kic> zovik: No. I didn't hilight you.
[13:11] <zovik> excuse me
[13:11] <rumpe1> haitham, it is possible... but gparted is never "safe". And you can't just switch because you now have data on /usr/local-partition.
[13:11] <rumpe1> haitham, if it is your first time... just begin from scratch. It's easier.
[13:11] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! is it possible to copy and paste while using the terminal *without the mouse*? do I need to use a program like vi or nano?
[13:12] <haitham> Yep, its
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> cyclist_2:  copy and paste from what to what?
[13:12] <ks07> Hey all, quick question: Is "if tty -s ; then echo "interactive"; fi" correct?
[13:12] <red2kic> cyclist_2: xclip?
[13:12] <haitham> Yep, its  my first time*
[13:12] <prower> hello everyone :> i've been playing minecraft in 10.10 (ubuntu 64-bit), it actually runs a bit faster than windows 7 which is nice :> recently though, while playing it in ubuntu the sound will randomly cut out and stop working until the game is restarted...anyone here who plays it that has come up against the same problem?
[13:12] <smw> cyclist_2, ctrl + shift + c
[13:12] <haitham> What do you mean exactly 'begin from the scratch'? :)
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> cyclist_2:   you mean a x terminal? or the console? many Xterm enulators have copy paste features
[13:12] <rumpe1> haitham, repartition, reinstall :)
[13:12] <cyclist_2> Dr_Willis: copy some output from the terminal to other command later in the terminal: no mouse involved...?
[13:13] <haitham> I'll do that
[13:13] <rumpe1> haitham, but having a separate /home-partition is usually a good idea
[13:13] <haitham> Before doing that
[13:13] <haitham> Ops
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> I like a seperate /home/ hard drive. :)
[13:14] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: Ditto.
[13:15] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: that is ideal, but not cost-effective :P
[13:15] <haitham> So If i get it right, '/' mount point is the root, '/home' is for future personal files and so on.. what about 'usr/local '? Are there any other essential/recommended ones?
[13:15] <gaelfx> I have to settle for separate home partition
[13:15] <red2kic> !info xclip | cyclist_2
[13:15] <raylee> does anyone use ubuntu linux
[13:15] <bazhang> raylee, yes of course
[13:15] <red2kic> raylee: Silly question.
[13:15] <rumpe1> haitham, perhaps /swap ... if you want to use hibernation
[13:15] <raylee> i need help with flash
[13:16] <bazhang> !flash > raylee
[13:16] <gaelfx> haitham: a /boot is never a bad idea, you can throw a useful iso like knoppix or gparted or some such in there
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> flash is always a top 10 problem.. has been for years.. sadly
[13:16] <cyclist_2> Dr_Willis: either a X terminal emulator or the console: but how do I highlight and copy what I want to reuse from the output?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> and proberly will be for years..
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> cyclist_2:  no idea.I use the mouse to do so.
[13:16] <haitham> aha, gonna reinstall now.. thanks all. :)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> cyclist_2:  for the console theres GPM that lets you sue the mouse..
[13:16] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: bite your tongue, I'm praying they get toppled in 2-3 by something decent
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  proberl somthing that has even stronger drm and more support for annoying 'advertisements
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> ;
[13:17] <gaelfx> :( I'm sad because you're right, but I'll stop ot-ing
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> But i can recall when Realplayer/media was the way to do net video. Hopefully HTML5 and webm will take off soon.
[13:18] <red2kic> cyclist_2: "ls ~ | xclip ; xclip -o"
[13:18] <gaelfx> sad to admit that I did actually install realplayer on linux once...never again
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  about once a week. we get someone in here wanting to get realplayer going.. for some web site. MLB.com i think.
[13:19] <archangelpetro> how on earth can this network file sharing be failing?  .... for some reason i can't access network shares between two ubuntu machine.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Must be some locked in agreement btween real and that site. :)
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> archangelpetro:  samba shares?
[13:19] <gaelfx> it reminded me of playing Diablo II, a whole lot of clicking for pretty much no results
[13:19] <red2kic> raylee: Don't PM me. Talk in here.
[13:19] <archangelpetro> Dr_Willis: yea, i've trued starting it through nautilus, and i've also tried using 'netwox 217 -r bleh -s blehbleh'
[13:20] <archangelpetro> but
[13:20] <archangelpetro> my other machine just will not connect to ti
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> archangelpetro:  netwox ? never heard of that command. try smbtree and findsmb to see what shares are there.
[13:20] <cyclist_2> red2kic: but what if I only want to copy  a word or a line from the output and not the entire output?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> archangelpetro:  try entering the path to the share, smb://servernameorIP/sharename
[13:20] <archangelpetro> Dr_Willis: that's what i do, an dit just says can't mount window share
[13:21] <red2kic> cyclist_2: Then modify the parameters to get different output (or modify the output itself with grep, awk, sed, etc).
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> archangelpetro:  for ubuntu to ubuntu -  i tend to use sshfs
[13:22] <archangelpetro> Dr_Willis: but, on a windows machine in a virtual machine, i can access the share without problem
[13:22] <archangelpetro> (in a VM, on the same computer as the ubuntu that cannot access the share)
[13:22] <red2kic> cyclist_2: Screen or use metakeyboard shortcuts to navigate through the scrollbuffer.
[13:23] <archangelpetro> oh wait
[13:23] <archangelpetro> and not iw torks.
[13:23] <archangelpetro> now it works..
[13:24] <Gucci> Hey, Can anyone help me add a custom menu entry to my  boot options in Grub 2? I have a link but I dont seem to be able to understand much. I am running 10.10 and trying to dualboot with windows
[13:24] <cyclist_2> red2kic: I use screen a lot, but was unaware that it could achieve that result too; I will read its man page better now; thanks a bunch!
[13:24] <niohubala{AFK}> Gucci, do you know which partition windows is on?
[13:24] <Gucci> This is the link I am trying to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[13:24] <niohubala{AFK}> for ex. /dev/sda6
[13:25] <gaelfx> is there some way to make it so that you don't have to hit exactly the right pixel to resize a window? it's driving me bonkers
[13:25] <Gucci> Niohubala: yes I have a screen shot of disk utility if youd like
[13:25] <red2kic> cyclist_2: Ctrl+A[ ; Ctrl+M ; Ctrl+A]
[13:25] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: yes
[13:25] <Gucci> http://imagebin.org/147004
[13:25] <niohubala{AFK}> go to disk management, click your windows partition, and look at the partition number
[13:25] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: http://imagebin.org/147004
[13:25] <xinyangzhang> test
[13:26] <niohubala{AFK}> it's /dev/sda2 in your case
[13:26] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: yes sir. that would be it lol
[13:26] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: now I just need help using this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[13:27] <niohubala{AFK}> Gucci, I'm no expert but try adding this to /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://pastebin.com/iCZFk5Kn
[13:28] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: I think that may just be applicable to Grub. 10.10 uses grub 2
[13:28] <niohubala{AFK}> It was taken from my grub.cfg file and I'm on grub 2
[13:28] <Gucci> Does anyone have enough experience to know how to add custom menu entries to grub 2?
[13:29] <Gucci> atleast explain steps to me?
[13:29] <niohubala{AFK}> sry gucci
[13:29] <arand> Gucci: Add it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:29] <Gucci> niohubala{AFK}: its aight
[13:30] <arand> Gucci: Example http://paste.debian.net/114312/
[13:30] <ks07> Can you make rsync skip over symbolic links so that it doesn't print the warning messages?
[13:30] <Gucci> arand: god, im going to mess something up haha. Thank you though
[13:30] <miro_> traper
[13:31] <bazhang> !pl | miro_
[13:31] <niohubala{AFK}> plz, english, then we can all learn from problems
[13:31] <arand> Gucci: Best is to copy an existing entry and use as a template, for windows the entry is much simpler since it's just a chainload.
[13:32] <Gucci> arand: genius lol
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  Add them to the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file as needed :)
[13:32] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: I figured that part
[13:32] <niohubala{AFK}> as said, this is my entry: http://pastebin.com/iCZFk5Kn
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  i copy existing ones from /boot/grub/grub.cfg for examples
[13:33] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yeah. How do I get to it again? terminal then sudo gedit right?
[13:33] <niohubala{AFK}> alt-F2 => gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  yes.. or whatever editor you want.
[13:33] <bazhang> niohubala{AFK}, you dont want to edit that directly
[13:33] <niohubala{AFK}> oh, sorry, bazhang
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> you dont EDIT grub.cfg you just look at it. :)
[13:34] <niohubala{AFK}> ok
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg   will work :)
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> i think
[13:34] <bazhang> niohubala{AFK}, check the grub2 wiki
[13:34] <bazhang> !grub2
[13:34] <cylex> I zero filled my harddrive, now what do I do next?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> cylex:  repartion it..
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> via gparted or cfdisk, or fdisk, or whatever
[13:34] <cylex> then it should be fine right?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> cylex:  no idea.. what was the origianl issue?
[13:34] <cylex> whats the proper command to zero fill ?
[13:35] <cylex> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M ?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX   bs=2048 or somthing like that
[13:35] <Gucci> we have a problem
[13:35] <teslo> major
[13:35] <cylex> does it matter if you put bs part or not?
[13:35] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: my grub 40 file is empty
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> cylex:  speed will be slower with no BS
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  should be like 4 comment lines..
[13:36] <Gucci> arand: my grub 40 file is empty
[13:36] <Dr_Willis>  and i think one or 2 other lines
[13:36] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: nothing there lol
[13:36] <teslo> ??
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  check your spelling.. see f the file exists
[13:37] <teslo> Hi Lorizean
[13:37] <niohubala{AFK}> sry, g2g, cya later all
[13:37] <teslo> bye niohubala{AFK}
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:37] <zee313> I made my kingston 16GB as a bootable CD for UBUNTU 10.10. Now When I tried to open my Data Traveller It is after format in Ubuntu showing volume only 2 GB. Plz solve my problem how to fix it?
[13:37] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: this was the first instruction "The user can either edit the default /etc/grub.d/40_custom file or create a new one."
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> zee313:  made it with what tool exactly?
[13:37] <cylex> Dr_Willis: thanks ;)
[13:37] <teslo> lol
[13:38] <zee313> unetbootin
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> zee313:   checkits partition layout. could be you some how made a 2gb partition.
[13:38] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: it has two tabs though.
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  http://pastebin.com/d9FH3Rxj  my 40_custome
[13:39] <zee313> I don't how to check?
[13:39] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: custom? Yerp mine doesnt have that lol
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> zee313:  with that big a flash drive you could do a normal 'full' install as if it was a regular hard drive.
[13:39] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: I entered this " /etc/grub.d/40_custom "
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  somthjings odd then.. thats a standard file on ubuntu
[13:39] <Gucci> sudo gedit
[13:39] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: it seems to boot w.o it lol
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  look IN the /etc/grub.d directory
[13:40] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: k
[13:40] <zee313> Now I want to transfer some of my data using this flash but it is showing volume only 2GB
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  update-grub looks at the files when making the grub menus.. not when system boots
[13:40] <zee313> instead of 16GB
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> zee313:  its possible unetbootin repartioned it and reformated it to a 2gb partition.
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> zee313:  see what sudo  fdisk -l   says about it
[13:41] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "release Alt" or "release Ctrl" signal of some sort the keyboard will work again? Then I can set up the GUI to do this when I click on an icon, allowing me to use the keyboard.
[13:41] <kwtm> I know it's a software problem because when I switch users (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-F8) then the keyboard works again, until I switch back.
[13:41] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: it seems as if the entry is created by the user and is supposed to be empty
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> zee313:  i tend to use the tools at the PenDrivelinux web site - instead of Unetbootin these days.
[13:41] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: The easiest way to create the content of a custom menu is to copy a working entry from /boot/grub/grub.cfg. Once copied, the contents of 40_custom can be tailored to the user's desires.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Unetbootin has gotten a little flakey for me lately
[13:41] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  thats what i said earlier..
[13:42] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: so why should there be anything in there?
[13:42] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: if its created by me
[13:42] <api984> hello
[13:42] <bittin> hi
[13:42] <api984> as anyone installed Ubuntu in a RAID0 configuration using BIOS sata
[13:43] <api984> aka fakeraid0
[13:43] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: wtf. I am doing something wrong. /boot/grub/grub.cfg. is empty as well
[13:43] <cylex> I zerofilled my hdd using ubuntu, but when utorrent in windows reaches 100%, it gives error
[13:44] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: whatcha think?
[13:44] <erik__> hello
[13:44] <erUSUL> !fakeraid
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  no idea - use cat command.. perhaps
[13:44] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: whats that lol
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  proberly doing somthing silly.. :)
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> cat filename.txt  -> shoes the file
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Bash basics
[13:45] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: nvrmind I got the cfg grub to worK!!!
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> may be a good idea to spend an hr learning some bash fundamentals
[13:45] <newb_> Hello! I have a problem here: My ubuntu Gnome menus are always black! I changed my theme, but I can't change this! Why? Other things are always black too, but I changed my theme!
[13:46] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: is this what I would like to copy?
[13:46] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-30-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[13:46] <Gucci> 	recordfail
[13:46] <Gucci> 	insmod ext2
[13:46] <Gucci> 	set root='(hd0,1)'
[13:46] <Gucci> 	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 08abc107-ad24-4f49-8a5b-689fff246c57
[13:46] <Gucci> 	echo	'Loading Linux 2.6.32-30-generic ...'
[13:46] <Gucci> 	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-30-generic root=UUID=08abc107-ad24-4f49-8a5b-689fff246c57 ro single
[13:46] <FloodBot3> Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <Gucci> 	echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  im not sure what youa re trying to do exactly.. thats an entry for a Ubuntu install it seems..
[13:46] <cylex> sorry if I am asking a lot of questions today, but I wanna know if there's a utility that you can use to test your HDD in Ubuntu
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  ive no idwea why you need to be adding that.
[13:46] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: dont I use it as a base for the xp
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> cylex:  test in what way?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  No...
[13:46] <archangelpetro> cylex: fsck?
[13:46] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: thats what you said earlier
[13:47] <cylex> testing for bad sectors or partition , after zerofill
[13:47] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: this step
[13:47] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: The easiest way to create the content of a custom menu is to copy a working entry from /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[13:47] <induz> why my Dell monitor on Ubuntu provides cracks desktop
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  but thats not an entry for WINDOWS... thats an entry for a Linux
[13:47] <cylex> archangelpetro: yeah something like that
[13:47] <induz> its aintegerated video on MB
[13:48] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: exactly im going to change the paramaters to windows
[13:48] <KM0201> induz, cracks desktop?
[13:48] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: um should I just copy what your custom 40 looks like?
[13:48] <bhavesh> when I go sudo apt-get remove wine it says "wine not installed" but I have wine 1.2 installed
[13:48] <induz> resolution is set to 1152x864
[13:48] <bhavesh> why so?
[13:48] <induz> the visuals are not smooth i meant to say
[13:48] <KM0201> induz, ok....? whats wrong with that
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you COPY and edit an entry that boots a windows install..
[13:48] <erUSUL> bhavesh: the name is wine1.2
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  http://pastebin.com/4PGFa8bS  line 94
[13:49] <bhavesh> k
[13:49] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: you sure I will have one?
[13:49] <induz> when i want to see google map, I can not see on firefox
[13:49] <induz> KM0201, is there a driver issue??
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  i thought the whole point of this was to Add one..
[13:50] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: it is
[13:50] <KM0201> induz, which intel graphics device do you have?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  thats from my grub.cfg showing MY windows  boot entry in my grub.cfg
[13:50] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: arent you saying that the grub.cfg file should have a windows entry
[13:50] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: well the problem is that mine isnt rofl
[13:50] <induz> I have intergradted video on Dell dimension
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  if os-prober worked properly.. it would have.. then you wouldent be needing to add one to 40_custom
[13:50] <induz> there is no PCI or AGP card for video
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  so you are adding one to 40_custom
[13:50] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: os prober didnt find it
[13:51] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yeah
[13:51] <KM0201> induz, i understand that, but just because its integrated, says nothing.. is it Intel, ATI, or Nvidia
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> you need to set the proper UUID and hdXX entry in the lines
[13:51] <KM0201> i'm guessing if it's a laptop, its Intel, desktop, its ATI....
[13:51] <induz> nVdia
[13:51] <KM0201> induz, do you have the driver installed?
[13:51] <induz> no
[13:51] <KM0201> induz, then you need to install it.. system/admin/hardware drivers
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  and the forums proberly have a Huge thread on this topic.  i see this problem in here at least once a week
[13:51] <induz> how do i know what driver to install and what Video i have on my MB??
[13:52] <KM0201> induz, you just told me you had nvidia,..
[13:52] <induz> KM0201, it says there is NO hadrware driver found
[13:52] <bhavesh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624644 << it gives the steps to install latest wine.. but while doing 2nd step terminal says "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[13:52] <KM0201> induz, then you don't have nvidia.
[13:52] <teslo> induz, read your card
[13:52] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: is it bad that it is not in grub.cfg. Windows entry that is
[13:52] <KM0201> teslo, its onboard
[13:53] <teslo> oh i see
[13:53] <MaRk-I> induz: in terminal type:  lspci | grep -i vga
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  os-prober dident find it.. so it dident add it to grub.cfg    bug in os-prober.
[13:53] <KM0201> induz, open a terminal and type "lspci" (lowercase L) no quotes, and hit enter... go through the output, and vind your video device (don't paste the whole freaking list here)
[13:53] <bhavesh> how am I supposed to update to beta wine..?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> bhavesh:  enable the winehq repos. or some other ppa repos for it
[13:53] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: cant  I simply make an entry in grub.40? and isnt the point to add custome files to grub.cfg and 40 or what not?
[13:53] <pozic> bhavesh: the easiest way is to compile it from source.
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  that is what we have been doing....
[13:53] <snow_us> hi
[13:53] <Rob0508> hi german here?
[13:53] <KM0201> !de
[13:53] <teslo> No
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you add them to 40_custome you get an example from MY grub.cfg
[13:53] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: I dont feel like its os prober. I must have been doing something wrong when partitioning
[13:53] <bhavesh> pozic: compile it...? how
[13:53] <pozic> bhavesh: the process is documented on the wine wiki.
[13:53] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yesir
[13:54] <bhavesh> pozic: k
[13:54] <snow_us>  I wonder where is the cmath library in ubuntu ; usually it is /usr/lib/libm.a
[13:54] <induz> KM0201, I have 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:54] <pozic> bhavesh: if you cannot follow that, you could use some PPA.
[13:54] <KM0201> induz, thats an intel chipset
[13:54] <bhavesh> even thats failing
[13:54] <|Marco|> I've just try'd to upgrade from hardy to kermic (not a good idea), the problem I'm facing is proc not mounting (device busy..) error, and suggestions about changeing sertain things in grub/menu.lst, none of the suggestions have worked so far, this is on a apple tv 1gen, it also won't boot the newer kernel that kermic upgraded to.
[13:54] <induz> KM0201, yes
[13:54] <pozic> bhavesh: but if you compile it from source, you know at least what you are getting.
[13:54] <KM0201> induz, you told me just a minute ago you had nvidia.
[13:54] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: wooohooo lol. my 40 is proper this time too!
[13:55] <bhavesh> pozic: maybe
[13:55] <induz> KM0201, I am sorry...I was confused about the video
[13:55] <|Marco|> I'd be happy just to get it up and running again eather by downgrading if it's possible, or fixing the proc error
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  check your spelling and command lines.. case is imporntant..  bash commands are not for the sloppy. :)
[13:55] <induz> KM0201, nVidia is not on this desktop PC
[13:56] <teslo> |Marco|,  was this   a clean install"
[13:56] <bhavesh> Simplest way "sudo apt-get install wine1.3"
[13:56] <|Marco|> teslo: no :/
[13:56] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yeah lol. SO all I want to add is from like 102-107. in the code that you sent me
[13:56] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: simply change the paramaters to my own though
[13:56] <teslo> ow
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  yes. and change your uuid and sd##
[13:56] <induz> KM0201, its 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[13:57] <KM0201> induz, yeah, i'm not that familiar w/ that one.. you can try googling that, see if ou can come up w/ something
[13:57] <|Marco|> I can do a total reinstall if I need to, but I only need to get the base system to the Linux partition on the drive, the boot/Recovery partitions are just fine as is
[13:57] <KM0201> my GM965 works fine
[13:57] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: awesome. Now where can I find all that information haha? in disk utility im guessing? also is it going to be problamatic if its not in grub.cfg?
[13:57] <induz> KM0201,  do i have to download some driver??
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !uuid | Gucci
[13:57] <raven> how to play a radio stream at startup?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !autorun | raven
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !autostart | raven
[13:58] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: i entered the command
[13:59] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: no response which probably means I did somethng wrong l0l
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  check your spelling..   spend time learning bash.. :)
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> its sort of hard to get     sudo blkid      wrong
[13:59] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: sudo blkid does not do anything
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you are using ubuntu?
[13:59] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yes sir
[14:00] <induz> KM0201, how do i find out what is my xorg.conf ??
[14:00] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: no lol. we've been editing grub files but somehow im not using ubuntu. jk
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:   ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/    is another way
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  theres other dsrtos that use grub.. and blkid is a normal installed ubuntu command... so ive no idea why you dont have it..
[14:00] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: ill give it a try
[14:01] <ohsix> redshift is affecting my sleeping, for the good!
[14:01] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: no response from terminal
[14:01] <Gucci> dr_willis: tear );
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  whats the exact line you are using?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Im guessing you are doing somthign fundamentally wrong
[14:02] <bahamas> hello. why is there a difference between the disk usage shown by du and nautilus? one shows aprox 1 GB the other ~400 MB
[14:02] <Gucci> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[14:02] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[14:02] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: copied straight from the terminal
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> willis@Element:~$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> works fine here.
[14:03] <ula> jak wejsc na irc wrocław
[14:03] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  nope.
[14:03] <ula> nigdy nie korzystałam z irca?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  unless you are on some live cd or other weirdness
[14:04] <bahamas> anyone know the answer to my question?
[14:04] <raven> Dr_Willis, i need to start an m3u file automatically
[14:04] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: shit lol. nope plain 10.10 boot. Umm is there another place I can get this info for the xp partition?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> bahamas:  MiB vs MB perhaps
[14:04] <bahamas> ula: this is mostly an english speaking channel
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> raven:  so set a media player to auto start and give it that file to run.
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  so ls -l /dev/disk/ returns anything?
[14:05] <raven> Dr_Willis, how to give vlc the m3u file automatically?
[14:05] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: nothing. Its quite foolish
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> raven:  vlc filename
[14:05] <raven> Dr_Willis, ok tnx
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  how about ls -l /dev/
[14:05] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: ill give it a try
[14:06] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: wtf. no response
[14:06] <intick> hi all
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  no idea.
[14:07] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: is this info for the partition anywhere else I can access?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  if your /dev/ is empty - you got deeper issues going on.
[14:07] <intick> having a problem i've just installed mysqldv (python-mysqldb) interface and cant find a way to lunch the GUI, do you have an idea ?
[14:07] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: its running perfect lol
[14:08] <Octodigit> hi. trying to install libimobiledevice1 and libgpod4 so I can use them with banshee/clementine. Have added the ppa pmcenery/ppa. libimobiledevice1 and libgpod4 (from the standard repo) are mutually exclusive, and uninstalls banshee. clementine and just about anything else that would be useful in this context
[14:08] <Octodigit> this is on *lucid*
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  does 'dmesg' even show any info?
[14:08] <Octodigit> (just to avoid misleading anyone)
[14:08] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: dmesg?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  thats the command.. 'dmesg'
[14:08] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: sudo first? im assuming
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> will print out a few 1000 lines.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> no sudo needed
[14:08] <Octodigit> s/uninstalls/installing libimobiledevice uninstalls/
[14:08] <Gucci> No log
[14:09] <Gucci> Dr_Willis:  got it
[14:09] <bahamas> Dr_Willis: i run du with the -h and -b options has reduced the size shown from 1021M to 731M. the GUI tells me it's half that size
[14:09] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: opened a new terminal
[14:09] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: blkid = great success
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  no idea what you did in the other terminal then..
[14:10] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: me neither lol. Now what am I looking for in this massive blkid data?
[14:11] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: ?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  figure oyut what one is your windows install
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda2: LABEL="OS" UUID="98503AC1503AA5C2" TYPE="ntfs"
[14:12] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: will there be any clues lol?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> :) is mine
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> it says ntfs...
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> and it has the same label as it does in windows...
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt make an entry in 40_custom for all of the ntfs disks..
[14:13] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: YERP /dev/sda2: UUID="628465D88465AF6B" TYPE="ntfs"
[14:13] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: correcto?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> that couldbe a ntfs data drive.. could be a recovery drive.. could be your por..errr vacation picts drive..
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> its your system. how many windows drives do you have. :)
[14:13]  * Dr_Willis always makes a Proper LABEL on every filesystem
[14:14] <andrewhxism> hi all
[14:14] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: apparently three different /dev/sda's
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  make an entry for each then.
[14:14] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: in the grub.40?
[14:14] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: dont I need all that other info that I cant find lol?
[14:14] <induz> If I need to determine that if the video Intell drivers are really working with the VGA. How could i find oiut??
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> if its windows 7 = the first may be a boot type parittion  then the main. then a recovery parittion
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  uuid for each one.. and you said they are on sda  thats all you need.
[14:15] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: so you dont want me to copy my blkid output anymore?
[14:15] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: keep this stuff the same?
[14:16] <Octodigit> awesome. libimobiledevice1 and gtkpod are mutually exclusive
[14:16] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: #
[14:16] <Gucci> insmod part_msdos
[14:16] <Gucci> #
[14:16] <Gucci>         insmod ntfs
[14:16] <FloodBot3> Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <Octodigit> libimobiledevice4 and (gtkpod/libgpod4/clementine/banshee) are mutually exclusive.
[14:16] <induz> how can i use CVT command/
[14:16] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: willis lol
[14:17] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: wb for set root:?
[14:17] <Octodigit> which raises two questions - why do I see that ppa being recommended on libimobiledevice's website, the forums etc etc
[14:17] <Octodigit> and what can I do to fix such a crack-addled situation :)
[14:17] <DexterF> hi
[14:17] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: still there>
[14:18] <DexterF> how can I have 2 configs for 2 monitors? not at the same time, I sometimes need to plug the machine ointo the one display, then sometimes in another
[14:19] <Octodigit> right, thanks everyone!
[14:19] <Octodigit> waste of electricity.
[14:19] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: nooooo he's afk
[14:20] <gaelfx> even the greatest men in history needed to use the bathroom once in a while, don't worry too much ;)
[14:21] <Gucci> Can anyone help me?
[14:21] <kaushal> hi
[14:21] <kaushal> 2 DIMMS meaning we can plugin 4 RAM chips ?
[14:21] <altea> hi all
[14:21] <Gucci> gaelfx: sure about that?
[14:21] <compdoc> kaushal, what does that mean?
[14:21] <Gucci> gaelfx: chuck norris doesnt
[14:21] <atlef> kaushal: no 1 dimm = 1 chip
[14:22] <Gucci> ANYONE?
[14:22] <Gucci> I need help adding a custom menu entry to my grub 40 custom file
[14:22] <Gucci> can anyone help out of the 1473 people that are in here lol?
[14:22] <kaushal> what is the difference between SDRAM and DDR2 and DDR3
[14:22] <gaelfx> Gucci: correction, no one can confirm that Chuck Norris does because you can never see him.
[14:22] <Gucci> gaelfx: exactly
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  huh?
[14:23] <Gucci> Dr_Willis:  hey buddy your back
[14:23] <kaushal> Up to 6GB3 DDR3 SDRAM at 1066Mhz - 2 DIMMS
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> for about 2 min.. then im out.
[14:23] <DexterF> Gucci: google "nettiquette", focus on the section about "patience"
[14:23] <compdoc> kaushal, all different sockets. ddr3 is the newest and fastest
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> You know the basics.. now do it. :)
[14:23] <kaushal> so does it mean max 6 GB
[14:23] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[14:23] <atlef> kaushal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_access_memory
[14:23] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: um what do I set for set root:?
[14:24] <Gucci> DexterF: real funny
[14:24] <kaushal> so each DIMM is 3 GB ?
[14:24] <compdoc> kaushal, is that what your motherboard specs say?
[14:24] <DexterF> Gucci: no, really serious
[14:24] <compdoc> have an url?
[14:24] <atlef> kaushal: yes
[14:24] <ljsoftnet> aside from PPA, is there a way to install vlc 1.1 on ubuntu?
[14:24] <kaushal> http://www.dell.com/in/business/p/vostro-3500/pd?~ck=anav
[14:24] <ljsoftnet> aside from PPA, is there a way to install vlc 1.1 on ubuntu 10.04?
[14:24] <kaushal> so do we have 1 chip of 3 GB ?
[14:24] <Gucci> DexterF: maybe you could help nxt time>? instead of telling me to be patient lol
[14:24] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: any clues>
[14:25] <compdoc> 8GB supported
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  sda = hd0   msdos# = the #drive number
[14:25] <atlef> kaushal: or 2 and 4gb
[14:25] <kaushal> atlef: please explain me about Up to 6GB3 DDR3 SDRAM at 1066Mhz - 2 DIMMS
[14:25] <kaushal> as per http://www.dell.com/in/business/p/vostro-3500/pd?~ck=anav
[14:25] <Gucci> Dr_willis: Kay thankyou. what is the drive number look like?
[14:25] <DexterF> Gucci: watch it
[14:26] <xangua> ljsoftnet: download the sources
[14:26] <kaushal> so does it mean max 6B support
[14:26] <Gucci> DexterF: kay buddy
[14:26] <ljsoftnet> xangua where? is it easy to compile?
[14:26] <kaushal> 6GB*
[14:26] <compdoc> it sounds like they offer 6gb, but it can go up to 8gb
[14:26] <atlef> kaushal: it means exactly that, 6GB max
[14:26] <kaushal> ok
[14:26] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: where is the drive number lol?
[14:27] <kaushal> so 1066Mhz means bus speed ?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  first drive = #1.....
[14:27] <atlef> kaushal: yes
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> sda1 = hd0 msdos1
[14:27] <Dr_Willis>  Not too hard
[14:27] <kaushal> so whats the max bus speed offered
[14:27] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: the uuid?
[14:27] <kaushal> in DDR3 ?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you just used blkid to get the uuiod
[14:27] <compdoc> Each memory slot can hold DDR3 PC3-8500, DDR3 PC3-10600 with a maximum of 4GB per slot
[14:27] <afman> Has anyone found a workaround for the problem where Ubuntu fails to boot because it's waiting for root device and it drops to busybox? I'm dual booting and I have to start Windows to get rid of it.
[14:27] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: no im asking whether the drive # is the uuid lol
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  uuid is a FILESYSTEM id...
[14:28] <apparle> is there any package for installation of cpp support in netbeans?
[14:28] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: so if its hda2 where is the number?
[14:28] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: yours dispalys msdos2 lol
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  msdos2 like the examples i gave show
[14:28] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: okay word
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> hda1 = msdos1
[14:28] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: what do i enter for this line?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> make some entries.. make a dozen.. use the diffent #'s  you can change them from the grub menu
[14:28] <DexterF> afman: can you select the boot device from the grub prompt?
[14:29] <afman> DexterF: Yes
[14:29] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: will I add all only 3?
[14:29] <ohsix> afman: what filesystem are you using with your install?
[14:29] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: for each partition I have
[14:29] <afman> ohsix: ext3
[14:29] <DexterF> afman: did the kernel image ever boot or did it start to malfunction after an upgrade?
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you can. You may want to boot your recovery partition sometime
[14:30] <afman> DexterF: It happens if I do a hard shutdown and sometimes it just happens randomly when I shutdown properly.
[14:30] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: kay but will just a xp entry work to test it?
[14:30] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: what will i enter for this here search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set be5461385460f495
[14:30] <Gucci> ?
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  go for it.. You can edit these #'s via the grub menus edit feature..
[14:30] <DexterF> afman: how do you mean "hard shutdown"? kill power?
[14:30] <afman> DexterF: Yes
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  that IS the uuid at the end.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> only things to change i think are the msdos@ and that Big UUID #
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> good luck. I gotta make lunch.
[14:32] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: tear. I will undoubtedly fail without you lol
[14:32] <compdoc> make me some breakfast while youre in the kitchen
[14:32] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: one last question?\
[14:32] <Calum> Hi guys, I'm a mint user, but hoping someone here may be able to help me.  I tried to upgrade from Mint8 to Mint10 using apt-get and I now am in dependacy hell.  I rebooted and cant get to Xwindows system.  On command line apt-get -f install says Errors encountered installing python2.6-minimal where do I begin to fix?
[14:32] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: what do I put for chainloader lol?
[14:32] <Gucci> Does anyone know what to enter for chainloader?
[14:33] <DexterF> afman: mmh... you really shouldn't do that. might screw up the filesystem altogether. if the machine is stuck and you need to reset try this next time: alt-sysrq-s, -u, -b. (sysrq is usually the "print" key above "insert" in the cursor block.) that sequence syncs all drives, unmounts them, reboots. that ensures all buffers all written. now for the situation at hand I'd start a live linux and run an fsck on your disk. seems to me like there's
[14:33] <DexterF> something wrong with the fs.
[14:33] <Gucci> DexterF: you know?
[14:33] <Gucci> DexterF: chainloader= ? lol
[14:33] <Gucci> tear Dr_Willis left me
[14:34] <BlipInTheData> Hello people :)
[14:34] <xangua> !mint | Calum
[14:34] <cyrus494> Hi, my ubuntu installation is not auto-selecting a kernel upon boot (it just hangs at grub). Selecting a kernel manually works fine and the machine boots as normal. I looked at the grub configuration and it looks fine. How do I debug this?
[14:34] <BlipInTheData> I have a question, when I want to fork a process from the terminal like firefox, firefox & <--- that should do it right ?
[14:34] <Gucci> does anyone know the answer to my dillema>
[14:35] <afman> DexterF: That's not it; it isn't a matter of anything being wrong with the filesystem. This is a problem I've seen on fresh installs that have never had a hard reset, old installs, and everything else. Ubuntu has had this problem for eternity it seems like.
[14:35] <ohsix> cyrus494: add a menu timeout, or remove the other operating systems :D
[14:36] <cyrus494> chsix: the menu timeout looks to be set @ 10 seconds & all the other OS's are ubuntu's
[14:36] <cyrus494> I just did an auto-update that updated the kernel, so I'm wondering if it's related to that
[14:36] <Gucci> afman: can you help me>
[14:36] <DexterF> Gucci: yes: use windows. or learn to google. read the excellent wiki articles and for gods sake stop saying "lol" to cover up that you're only aimlessly shouting in every direction trying to look friendly compensating for lack of effort.
[14:37] <teslo> Gocci what ur question
[14:37] <Gucci> DexterF: thaniks your so kind. s
[14:37] <Gucci> teslo: Can I run my grub.40 file with just one boot entry?
[14:37] <teslo> *you're
[14:37] <teslo> yes
[14:37] <afman> Better question why?
[14:37] <Gucci> okay
[14:38] <Gucci> afman: how do i implement it
[14:38] <Gucci> teslo: will grub immdediatly register the file?
[14:38] <Gucci> teslo: do i have to update grub or something?
[14:38] <DexterF> afman: if you can: mount your root (and var, boot if needed and reinstall the current image. or a newer one while you're at it)
[14:38] <teslo> should just go
[14:38] <Gucci> DexterF: youve got problems bro
[14:39] <Gucci> teslo: you know?
[14:39] <teslo> right
[14:39] <Gucci> teslo: update first?
[14:39] <bloops1> I just compiled g++ 4.6. Is there a way to try it out without installing?
[14:39] <Gucci> teslo: does grub know to access the 40 file first?
[14:39] <gw34ht> hola, nesecito saber unix completamente que me pueden dar referencia
[14:39] <teslo> update
[14:39] <DexterF> Gucci: im not your "bro" and not your "buddy".
[14:40] <Intel_GB> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 desktip and created password for root using the command sudo passwd root
[14:40] <Intel_GB> in console it's ok
[14:40] <Gucci> DexterF: thats exactly why You have problems
[14:40] <Intel_GB> in X print out that the password is wrong
[14:40] <Intel_GB> but it's ok
[14:40] <Gucci> teslo: any answers?
[14:40] <Intel_GB> where is the problem?
[14:40] <Gucci> me?
[14:40] <gw34ht> i need help any book the UNix for expert
[14:40] <teslo> ^
[14:41] <Gucci> teslo: what up?
[14:41] <xangua> gw34ht: go to a library¿
[14:41] <afman> DexterF: I'll give that a shot. My issue is the current image is fine. As soon as I boot the windows partition and restart Ubuntu starts just fine. And what's stranger is that this is a problem I have only seen on dual boot computers. Doesn't happen if Ubuntu is the only OS on there.
[14:41] <Gucci> teslo: update is all I need?
[14:41] <Gucci> afman: dont he's mean
[14:41] <Gucci> teslo: does grub know to access that file at boot
[14:41] <gw34ht> xangua what library
[14:41] <Gucci> teslo: ?
[14:42] <ohsix> !root | Intel_GB
[14:42] <DexterF> afman: wait, after booting windows ubuntu boots again? but only that time? what disk type is that, and what windows version?
[14:42] <ohsix> Intel_GB: root is pretty much blacklisted from the gui, too
[14:42] <KM0201> ohsix, not really
[14:42] <gw34ht> need the book the unix
[14:42] <KM0201> !gksudo
[14:43] <ohsix> i'm sure your digression will help his situation
[14:43] <AnthLee> I could use a bit of help, if you have an nvidia or ATI video card could you pastebin the output of lspci and message me the link please?
[14:43] <gw34ht> please name
[14:43] <ohsix> KM0201: "root", not using sudo
[14:43] <KM0201> meh..
[14:43] <Intel_GB> ohsix:  no, in synaptic when I write the pass it print out taht it's wrong
[14:43] <bloops1> when I use the executable 'g++' it complains that it can't execute 'cc1plus' (although it is in the same folder)
[14:43] <Intel_GB> in the drivers section also
[14:43] <Intel_GB> ..
[14:43] <ohsix> Intel_GB: put in your own password
[14:43] <afman> DexterF: It's a 64GB SSD drive. Ubuntu boots fine after booting Windows and normally works even after I restart it. Ubuntu will just decide not to boot largely at random. Sometimes it will restart just fine and sometimes it just drops to busybox. The ONLY time I know it won't boot is when I do a hard reset. And then I always have to start windows first.
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> bloops1:  i would think it would be needing to be in the PATH.. not the local directory
[14:44] <afman> NTFS
[14:44] <nits_hunter> !usage
[14:44] <DexterF> afman: what was the first OS you installed on that ssd?
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> the SSD is not spinning up? :)
[14:45] <ohsix> afman: do you have an ocz ssd? they have an awesome time loss glitch
[14:45] <afman> DexterF: Windows
[14:45] <DexterF> afman: win7?
[14:45] <afman> Yes
[14:45] <DexterF> afman: and ubuntu after that?
[14:45] <ohsix> yes to whom
[14:45] <afman> Yes
[14:45] <afman> dexterF
[14:45] <afman> actually yes to both
[14:45] <Intel_GB> thanx a lot, i missed that
[14:45] <afman> But this doesn't just happen on this comp
[14:45] <afman> It happens on my laptop as well
[14:45] <afman> Which doesn't have an SSD
[14:46] <DexterF> afman: sounds to me like there's some sort of emulation to match 512b vs 4k sektors that doesn't always work well... but that's rather a shot in the dark
[14:46] <DexterF> afman: ah, ok, there goes the ssd train of thought
[14:46] <Gucci> teslo: no lucj
[14:46] <Gucci> teslo: luck
[14:46] <Gucci> DexterF: can you help me
[14:46] <DexterF> afman: ubuntu 10.10? ever been like that or upped from earlier?
[14:46] <Gucci> anyone help me?
[14:47] <ohsix> probably not the same problem, but if you do have an ocz ssd its worth checking it out http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?83778
[14:47] <afman> DexterF: Happened in 10.04 as well
[14:47] <Gucci> HOW do I put my custom menu entry grub.40 custom file into effect?
[14:47] <bloops1> Dr_Willis: I don't want to botch up the current g++ installation. Anyway, could you refer me to some docs where they tell me how to test locally, everywhere they talk about installing
[14:47] <atlef> !grub | Gucci
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  you did rerun 'sudo update-grub' after editing that file?
[14:47] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: I did
[14:47] <afman> DexterF: On the forums there's been people mentioning the same problem as early as the 8 series
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> bloops1:  not really. i dont develpe much.
[14:48] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: booted right to ubuntu
[14:48] <bloops1> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks anyway
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  You have the grub menu hidden? you hit shift key to show it?
[14:48] <gw34ht> the book for server in the general
[14:48]  * Dr_Willis always unhides the grub menu
[14:48] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: should I send you my 40 custom file?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  If you dont even see a grub menu.. hit shift when its booting, or unhide it in /etc/default/grub
[14:49] <tjiggi_fo> gw34ht, http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[14:49] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: will try
[14:49] <gw34ht> thanks
[14:49] <ohsix> afman: so it never finds the root filesystem?
[14:49]  * Dr_Willis runs away. :) got company. bye all...
[14:49] <afman> ohsix: Nope doesn't matter if you leave it on all night and type exit still won't start
[14:49] <DexterF> afman: nope, beats me. sorry. would only happen if the boot laoder went looking in the wrong places I'd say. but why it would do that - no idea. have you checked the bug reports?
[14:50] <ohsix> afman: you can look at dmesg and for the actual partition from that busybox prompt
[14:50] <khussein78> hello, I am planing to install ubuntu server as LTSP and connect employees in my company (20 employee) as thin clients
[14:50] <ohsix> afman: if it hits that shell it's never going to recover automatically
[14:50] <afman> DexterF: Ya there's a million of them. For some people increasing the root delay seems to work but that isn't the problem for me.
[14:50] <gw34ht> thanks men
[14:50] <afman> ohsix: That's a good idea I hadn't thought of that.
[14:50] <khussein78> I already installed ubuntu server 10.04 and then installed lstp server standalone but i am facing problems in booting the clients
[14:51] <khussein78> i have another DHCP server in the network
[14:51] <tjiggi_fo> gw34ht,  http://www.washington.edu/R870/
[14:51] <DexterF> afman: if all else fails I'd go back to grub1
[14:51] <sikun> i just installed 10.10 on my new laptop, my wireless works w/o any problems but my ethernet doesn't seem to work, it shows up in lspci as 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0)
[14:51] <sikun> 07:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network
[14:51] <ohsix> afman: beyond that, is this an upgrade from older versions? or have you edited fstab
[14:51] <khussein78> so any one can help me about a good documentation for doing this, also i see edubuntu have some good thing for this
[14:52] <Gucci> Dr_Willis:  no luck senor
[14:52] <afman> If you just google "gave up waiting for root device" you'll see what I mean. It's a VERY prevalent problem throughout all versions of Ubuntu. I'm really kind of surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.
[14:52] <khussein78> please advise me
[14:52] <QuiSE> When I start conky, how can I exit the terminal window and still keep conky running on my desktop ?
[14:52] <compdoc> khussein78, did you watch the youtube video?
[14:52] <ohsix> afman: well it's not one problem, and people can do thousands of things to their linux install to make it happen
[14:52] <liukunfeng> Can I ask a question?
[14:53] <tjiggi_fo> yes
[14:53] <atlef> !ask | liukunfeng
[14:53] <afman> ohsix: True, It seems mostly to be either you didn't wait long enough for the root device or there seems to be some mysterious other reason no one's worked out yet.
[14:53] <ohsix> afman: people give up, you can at least gather more information
[14:53] <DexterF> sikun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677122  <- does that possibly apply?
[14:54]  * QuiSE conky is driving me mad
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[14:55] <liukunfeng> Where are you?
[14:55] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: there?
[14:56] <afman> DexterF: Negative, I don't think it's hardware related. It has something to do with having that other partition. For instance when I only had Ubuntu on this comp and no Windows this never happened. Ah well I'll work on it later I've already spent enough time trying to work this one out.
[14:56] <Gucci> ?
[14:56] <Gucci> anyone?
[14:56] <gw34ht> the book network for expert cisco
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:57] <BlipInTheData> I have a question, when I want to fork a process from the terminal like firefox, firefox & <--- that should do it right ?
[14:57] <lugkhast> BlipInTheData: followed by "disown"
[14:57] <erUSUL> BlipInTheData: that puts the process in backgroud.
[14:57] <ohsix> afman: as long as the uuid is specified for the root filesystem, and correct; it should find it barring other problems not related to strictly mounting it
[14:58] <erUSUL> BlipInTheData: if you want firefox to "dettach" from the terminal use nohup or disown
[14:58] <BlipInTheData> I see.
[14:58] <BlipInTheData> Thanks !
[14:58] <zhtx> maybe plan9 can do it...
[14:58] <zhtx> just cp in /proc
[14:58] <afman> ohsix: When I get around to working on this again I think that's the avenue I'm going to approach it from. I feel like it's an issue of it not getting mounted properly. If I come up with a fix I'll put it on the forums.
[14:59] <DexterF> afman: like I said, I'd give grub 1 a shot. (the way canonical implemented 2 is horrible anyway :) )
[14:59] <ohsix> afman: find the problem, it'll probably be different from what other people have to deal with; only the symptoms might resemble eachother
[14:59] <ohsix> if it's an upgrade, migrate to grub2
[14:59] <BluesKaj> I haven't had dedicated ubuntu/gnome install in a while and I'm in the process of installing 10.10 on my other desktop. What's the default desktop now , Unity or .... ?
[15:00] <Gucci> DexterF: help me pweeez
[15:00] <ohsix> BluesKaj: not yet, natty is still beta
[15:00] <nits_hunter> BluesKaj: 10.10 is still gnome2, unity is default for 11.04
[15:00] <Gucci> ohsix: can u you help me
[15:00] <compdoc> gnome on 10.10
[15:00] <ohsix> BluesKaj: and even when it isn't, unity is one of the desktop sessions; the default one, it's still gnome
[15:00] <tjiggi_fo> gw34ht, http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/sip/proxies/2.0/administration/guide/stnconf.html
[15:00] <BluesKaj> ohsix, nits_hunter , ok thanks for the info
[15:01] <Gucci> ohsix: ?
[15:01] <afman> ohsix: Na this computer has been 10.10 from the get go. I get the feeling that like I said before there are two problem here. One fixed by increasing root delay and another having to do with the windows partition. I would be surprised if it were different problems. Everyone says the same thing and that it is fixed by starting windows and then restarting into ubuntu.
[15:01] <root__> j
[15:01] <afman> problems*
[15:01] <Gucci> any1?
[15:01] <Gucci> afman: can you help me?
[15:01] <Gucci> why people why
[15:01] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: eating>?
[15:02] <xangua> !patience | Gucci
[15:02] <ohsix> afman: well on the laptop, i could suggest some things if i knew the chipset being used
[15:02] <ohsix> afman: but with the ocz ssd unless you've ruled out the time warp thing i can't offer anything, cuz it's the exact same symptoms and "solution"
[15:02] <afman> ohsix: I really appreciate it but I've got to go back to work lol I've spent way too long trying to figure this one out lol
[15:02] <gabor> Hi. Does anybody have experience with vmware workstation 7.1.4 and xubuntu 11.04? I installed vmware succesfully but it runs only if I start with sudo.
[15:03] <atlef> Gucci: try the #grub channel as well
[15:03] <ohsix> ok
[15:03] <Guest56481> can any one help me to find the uninstall program for ubuntu it is the only system on hard drive and having all kinds of problems and need to install windows and then reinstall ubuntu
[15:03] <ohsix> gabor: what does it do if you don't use sudo?
[15:03] <Gucci> atlef: ty
[15:03] <Gucci> thanks guys
[15:03] <Gucci> helpful
[15:03] <afman> gabor: You'll always have to run vmware workstation with sudo because it makes use of system resources only available to root
[15:03] <afman> (Or at least I do)
[15:04] <Gucci> xangua: you're so helpful man
[15:04] <gabor> ohsix: the HDD blinking and a window appears for a half second then nothing.
[15:04] <gabor> it was working with 10.10
[15:04] <ohsix> afman: agh you shouldn't heh; it has its own sudo wrapper, for building the modules; and that's the only phase that needs root
[15:04] <nits_hunter> Guest56481: Jus format the Ubuntu partitions, install windows, and u can re-install ubuntu
[15:05] <afman> ohsix: Huh never knew that I've always just had to run it as sudo. I just edited the menu and added the line gksudo in front of it.
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> <Guest56481 Don't think you need to uninstall ubuntu; just install windows and reinstall ubuntu...
[15:05] <pneftali> okay guys, when i was installing phpmyadmin, i was not aware that the spacebar will be used to select apache2, how can I correct that ? uninstall phpmyadmin and re-install it ?
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> nits_...  Beat me to it.  :-)
[15:06] <nits_hunter> Sidewinder1: :P
[15:06] <xx_tonipostis_xx> hola a todos
[15:06] <Guest56481> it will not allow me to install windows cannot find partition
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> That's what I get for never learning to type. :-(
[15:07] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: dr dr where are you
[15:07] <Sidewinder1> !es | xx_tonipostis_xx
[15:08] <Sidewinder1> Boy, that ubottu's a grouch. :-)
[15:08] <gaelfx1> is there any way to make it so you don't have to hit exactly the right pixel to resize a window?
[15:09] <Dbugger> Is there a way to make an image work as a webcam source?
[15:10] <nits_hunter> Guest56481: if u want to get rid of ubuntu, u can always get a gparted live disc and format the partitions.... But i am not sure if ur windows installation disc will be able to detect the drive then either .....
[15:10] <BlipInTheData> lol, Dbugger what are you doing with that :P
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Gucci:  cooking dinner.. go read the grub2 docs. :)
[15:11] <ohsix> Guest56481: did windows come preinstalled, and is your computer newer? you might need installation media that support AHCI
[15:11] <gaelfx1> BlipInTheData: there's a question best left unasked
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> bbl - my beans are burning...
[15:11] <Guest56481> how then can I uninstall ubuntu and start fresh
[15:11] <teslo> beans>?
[15:11] <gaelfx1> ohsix: you might not remember, but you were right about the seagate drive being the problem, thanks
[15:11] <Dbugger> BlipInTheData, Im just wondering cos I can't find any webcam manipulation software
[15:11] <teslo> I got  a bad disease
[15:11] <ohsix> gaelfx1: i do! and cool, or not cool; but yea
[15:11] <gaelfx1> teslo: he means legumes
[15:11] <oCean> teslo: wrong channel
[15:11] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: dinner so quickly after lunch rofl. Kay
[15:12] <tjiggi_fo> gaelfx1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753639 - might help
[15:12] <ohsix> gaelfx1: you might be able to jumper it so it only does 1.5; or get by with the kernel boot param to disable 3g
[15:12] <teslo> oops thought this was karakokee
[15:12] <vhd> yo anyone know how to display the active windows size in the command line?
[15:13] <teslo> alt - f4
[15:13] <gaelfx1> ohsix: well, right now I'm running an rsync on the home folder to a new drive, but it might take a week the way it's going. I wish I had a jumper for it, but I don't. Is it safe to wire that by hand?
[15:13] <ohsix> gaelfx1: probably too risky to bother; just set the boot param to disable it
[15:14] <gaelfx1> ohsix: I'm gonna feel kinda stupid, but how do I do that?
[15:14] <ohsix> gaelfx1: well i told you where to read about it last time :] but i'll look it up
[15:14] <gaelfx1> ohsix: hehe, sorry, I was lazy and didn't bookmark
[15:15] <ohsix> gaelfx1: libata.force=1.5 i think, from my reading of the docs
[15:16] <gaelfx1> ohsix: spiffy, I'll ctl+c my rsync and start it up again after rebooting
[15:16] <edwinkcw> I use ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, but I find that flash player sometimes crashes, how can I figure out why it is ?
[15:16] <Gucci> gaelfx1: help me ?
[15:16] <BlipInTheData> Dbugger: http://www.ws4gl.org/
[15:16] <Gucci> gaelfx1: plz
[15:17] <ohsix> Gucci: don't badger people please
[15:17] <gaelfx1> oh, how do you get the grubby menu on a liveusb? is it del just like normal?
[15:17] <ohsix> edwinkcw: are you using the native player or the one with nspluginwrapper? i've had much better luck with nspluginwrapper NOT in the picture
[15:17] <Gucci> ohsix: you helpful
[15:17] <gaelfx1> Gucci: and I'm the one getting the help,, not giving it, at least today
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> edwinkcw: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf     Thanks
[15:17] <edwinkcw> ohsix: I use native player
[15:18] <ohsix> gaelfx1: hit a button to show the language menu, then f6 i think (it's "Extra options" at the bottom)
[15:18] <ohsix> edwinkcw: so you extracted and installed an .so yourself?
[15:18] <gaelfx1> er, ctl+c doesn't stop rsync?
[15:18] <gaelfx1> nevermind, this harddrive is buggering everything
[15:19] <ohsix> heh yea, it might be putting rsync into uninterruptable sleeps while reads fail
[15:19] <nits_hunter> gaelfx1: ps aux | rsync  , get the pid and kill pid
[15:19] <nits_hunter> gaelfx1: ?
[15:19] <gaelfx1> nits_hunter: it got it, it's just I have a crappy hard drive and it makes things remarkably unresponsive all the time
[15:20] <nits_hunter> gaelfx1: oh, sorry about that...
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx1: reduce vm.swappiness if you have more than 2Gb RAM and only use basic desktop functionality
[15:20] <edwinkcw> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/wqsi1CYQ
[15:20] <edwinkcw> ohsix: I think I install it using apt-get
[15:20] <ohsix> gaelfx1: you can .force some other things, like ncq off and disabling hard/soft resets; might help if pinning it to 1.5 wont
[15:20] <ohsix> edwinkcw: ok then it is using nspluginwrapper, not native
[15:21] <przemoReX> while you are talking about rsync, I'd like to as if anybody has experienced an issue with Simple Backup, that it's not uble tu revert files from backup?
[15:21] <Jaque> Hello, I have an english question here: How do you call someone who is on unemployment insurance?
[15:21] <edwinkcw> ohsix: I am sorry, I don't know about it
[15:21] <ellwu> who
[15:21] <edwinkcw> ohsix: it says it is Adobe Flash player plugin installer
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> edwinkcw: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-nonfree
[15:21] <teslo> Jaque, you dont they dont have phones
[15:22] <ellwu> window
[15:22] <ohsix> edwinkcw: basically, nspluginwrapper is a huge pile of mess and compromise, and the native 64bit plugin is much better
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> edwinkcw: will give native 64bit flash, not the 32bit one through a 64bit wrapper
[15:22] <edwinkcw> ActionParsnip: oh thanks
[15:22] <teslo> 1-800-5800-tom
[15:22] <gaelfx1> ohsix: could you link me the reading you were doing? I'm still hearing it spin up and down on start up
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> przemoReX: I saw a guy ranting about it on answer.launchpad.net
[15:23] <ohsix> gaelfx1: it's the libata stuff in kernel-parameters.txt
[15:23] <gaelfx1> it does that little buzz I've grown to hate over the past few hours
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> przemoReX: in a "why does it suck" kinda tone
[15:23] <gaelfx1> ohsix: ok, thanks
[15:24] <Jaque> What is the popular server on IRC?
[15:25] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: the packaging of that isn't quite kosher; can't have implicit agreement in the description :O
[15:25] <przemoReX> ActionParsnip: well, no wander why. I'll go to see that
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I don't see why Ubuntu just can't add the native 64bit plugin, any other way would just be messy
[15:27] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it's not release software, and people probably just don't care enough about flash, it is non-free
[15:27] <raven> 10.04 every time at startup i have to enter my pw for the keyring to connect to wlan - what can i do?
[15:28] <xangua> raven: autologin enabled¿
[15:28] <raven> xangua, yes
[15:28] <RealOp> suggestions on using another HDD as my HOME folder? :) plz thanks
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I'd say people do, for example look at the people in the past crying out for flash on android as well as the controversy and pages talking bout lack of flash on iphone
[15:28] <atlef> !seahorse | raven
[15:28] <xangua> raven: disable it S:
[15:28] <raven> xangua, i need it this way
[15:29] <raven> atlef, ?
[15:29] <mcboom> Hi
[15:29] <ohsix> raven: your login password unlocks your keyring, if you don't enter anything you still have to unlock it
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: just use the same drive but a partition, using a whole drive as home isn't bad either and I suggest you move your swap space to the other drive to make it a little faster
[15:29] <gaelfx1> ohsix: you know I love to bug you, do you know what all that port/device stuff is under the libata.force command is? like is it necessary to specify which device, since I have 2 hard drives in right now, or will it automagically set them all to 1.5G?
[15:29] <atlef> raven: it should be possible to change it in seahorse
[15:29] <raven> ohsix, what can i do that i do not need to enter anything
[15:29] <ohsix> gaelfx1: it says if you omit it it applies to all ports/devices
[15:30] <mcboom> Im new on linux some that are into programming and hacking that can tech me?
[15:30] <smt> hi, ive got a problem, in my dual head setup yesterday everything worked fine, but today i only get 640x480 max on my secondary display, anyone got an idea whats going on?
[15:30] <ohsix> raven: nothing you actually want to do, i suggest you learn to live with it; otherwise all your passwords might as well be printed and distributed
[15:30] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, kk its actually already setup that way. theres 3 partitions. 1 swap and two ext3
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: cool
[15:31] <chogoling> I have a problem with my ubuntu, I installed it today on a separate partition but I've been unable to access it.
[15:31] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: people aren't packaging it, ubuntu was, or as it was implied in your original statement when you wondered why they don't
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> mcboom: there is a network channel which may help with hacking
[15:31] <mcboom> Okay wich?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: gotcha, but people do want the flash
[15:31] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, so if i move the swap part. to a diff drive this will help a bit aye?
[15:31] <gaelfx1> ohsix: ok, thanks
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: sure as both drives will be used when the swap is used rather than just one
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> mcboom: ##networking
[15:32] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: for all intents and purposes, they have it and don't care what a compromise it is, or aren't using 64bit distros
[15:32] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, I never really notice that my swap space is being used when i look in system mon.  so i should be okay with the way it is now yeah?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: sure but if the ubuntu method of flash is causing issues, then its time to look at aother solution
[15:33] <wienen> Hello i have a netbook and wanted full disk encryption. So i installed the alternate disk. But how do i install the netbook features?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: should be ok. How much RAM do you have
[15:33] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, 3gb
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: And what are the systems main uses?
[15:33] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: nspluginwrapper is unmaintained and doesn't support a lot more than a box to draw in the host
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i see, I've always used the manual install personally but obviously new folks won't be so comfy with that
[15:34] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, ive delegated other task to different machines, so its mainly used to surf the web and as a file server
[15:35] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i figure by the time they know something is up enough to be looking at nspluginwrapper, extracting a file somewhere is cake
[15:35] <sami___> Hey, how is 64-bit Ubuntu doing nowadays compatibility wise?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: you can add the line:     vm.swappiness = 0    to /etc/sysctl.conf    then run:  sudo sysctl -p    and swap will only be used if absolutely necessary
[15:35] <xangua> wienen: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook
[15:36] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: but you can package it and propose it for inclusion; it'd probably get in, barring some real problem that would get discussed when you attempted to do so
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> sami___: pretty good
[15:36] <ohsix> changing swappiness isn't a good idea
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: might just do that if I gots time to burn
[15:36] <sami___> ActionParsnip, so you'd recommend it over 32-bit?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> sami___: depends on needs
[15:36] <kermit> whats the command to pop up a notification window?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> kermit: notify-send
[15:36] <ohsix> kermit: you mean a notify bubble?
[15:36] <sami___> ActionParsnip, well, general use and some gaming like CSS and StarCraft II
[15:37] <LAcan> does anyone know where I can find some help for pureftp?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the default is 60 which is crazy
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> sami___: what is CSS?
[15:37] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, sweet thanks for the suggestion :)
[15:37] <sami___> ActionParsnip, Counter-Strike: Source :P
[15:37] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it sounds like you might not know all the implications or what sort of decisions are behind that number :D
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> sami___: please only abbreviate defacto things, saves confusion and time
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i think its a !wfm
[15:38] <ohsix> but you can't say work if you don't know what it is
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> sami___: both may run in wine so you won't have any difference in 64bit and 32bit
[15:38] <LAcan> does anyone know where I can find some help for pureftp?
[15:38] <ohsix> not to mention confirmation bias and the touchy "Feelies" about something you've done, doing what you wanted it to do; but possibly not doing anything or making something worse
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I've not had an issue on any of my systems with ram / swap since I started doing it probably around the Jaunty / Karmic time
[15:38] <kermit> ActionParsnip: thanks, do you know what package thats in, or how i can search for it?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> kermit: it's installed by default
[15:39] <raven> what is the way not to use autologin but to play anything with vlc at startup?
[15:39] <sami___> ActionParsnip, Sorry about it, I guess I'm going for the 64-bit one then
[15:39] <kermit> ActionParsnip: i do not have it
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> kermit: gimme a sec
[15:39] <ohsix> raven: if it's just the wifi problem, i've got a solution
[15:39] <raven> ohsix, ok tell me ;)
[15:39] <sami___> If I install 10.10 now, can I upgrade it from update manager to 11.04 when it is released?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> kermit: try:  notify-send test
[15:40] <LAcan> can anyone recommend a goof ftp server for lubuntu?
[15:40] <BlouBlou> sami___: Yes
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sami___: yes
[15:40] <LAcan> err good
[15:40] <ohsix> raven: open the network connections, edit the particular wifi connection, check the "Available to all users" box at the bottom
[15:40] <kermit> ActionParsnip: yes, i do not have it
[15:40] <ohsix> raven: then networkmanager will have all the information it needs to connect before you even log in, and you don't have to expose all your keys to do it
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> kermit: ok then run: dpkg -S notify-send     and install the package it is contained by
[15:41] <kermit> ActionParsnip: dpkg: *notify-send* not found.
[15:41] <raven> ohsix, ok i'll try that tnx
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> kermit: http://www.barregren.se/blog/pop-notification-command-line
[15:41] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: -S only works for installed packages, bash-completion offers suggestions for what packages things are in, to install iirc
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> kermit: sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
[15:41] <LAcan> hrmmm... am i voiced?
[15:41] <LAcan> HELLLLOOOOO?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: gah
[15:41] <kermit> ActionParsnip: got it, thanks!
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: we can see you
[15:41] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, so my drive is setup like this | primary ext3 partition that has the data | extended part. with ext4 OS and  swap |
[15:41] <LAcan> ah ok ty
[15:42] <ohsix> swap in extended partitions :O
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: sounds fine
[15:42] <LAcan> whats a nice ftp server for ubuntu?
[15:42] <ohsix> (probably means it's at the far end, the slow end, of the drive)
[15:42] <LAcan> im using pureftp but it is giving me the wonkiest errors
[15:42] <thedesolatesoul> hello people!!!
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: installing openssh-server will give you an SFTP server which is much better
[15:42] <RealOp> pure-ftpd is the best :D
[15:43] <thedesolatesoul> does anyone here know how to get intel sandy bridge graphics drivers on ubuntu???
[15:43] <ohsix> !best
[15:43] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, so suggestions on using my other partition as my home folder?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: it's still using FTP which is not very secure in any way
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: if you want or need the space, sure why not
[15:43] <raven> ohsix, does not connect
[15:44] <LAcan> realop do u know what might cause a continual 425 Sorry, invalid address given
[15:44] <LAcan> im not resovling hostnames
[15:44] <LAcan> but it keeps giving me this darn error
[15:44] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, i have a general ideal of to mount the partition  and maybe a symbolic linke to the other drive???
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: "A value of swappiness=10"   from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:45] <RealOp> LAcan, im not sure but maybe ipv6 ??
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> RealOp: thats fine too
[15:46] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: little technical justification for it; and any case where you're touching swappiness, changing your workload or adding more memory is a better solution
[15:46] <swatto> ActionParsnip: dont know if you remember but i found out the issue with my startup applications
[15:46] <thedesolatesoul> anyone using intel sandy bridge graphics?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> swatto: oh them not starting you mean
[15:47] <swatto> ActionParsnip, yep, my user profile was corrupt
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> swatto: ahhhh, i see
[15:47] <swatto> ActionParsnip, started a new user and everything is fine now
[15:47] <swatto> Just wondering if there was a way to reset user profile to defaults without starting a new user altogether
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: sure but if the drive is slow then using swappiness will be slow, user has 3gb and isn't used for much so a low swappiness should be ok, definitely not 60
[15:48] <fsjfewafa> my wifi dies on supend and I can restart it
[15:48] <aannoonn> how do i send a keystroke to an app from the command line? I want to start mplayer with slow playback (you have to press '[' when it's running to slow it down), i tryed "mplayer video.avi < keystrokes.txt" but it shuts down immediately :(
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> swatto: not sure personally dude
[15:48] <fsjfewafa> any ideas
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone mind helping me figure out how to enable "master mode" on my broadcom wireless.. this is as far as I have got Broadcom cards support master mode using the reverse-engineered kernel driver. You need to enable (or make as a module) the Softmac wireless extensions and b43 wireless driver.
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> gah
[15:48] <fsjfewafa> what can I kill to bring it back to normal
[15:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you don't use swappiness, software you run is resident, and the OS decides when to move inactive pages, it is better to eject them when they're not touched; but if you don't have enough ram you might be in a situation where active pages are scanned and punted; separate problem
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: some wifi needs the module unloading then reloading on wakeup
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: there is nothing to kill
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: gotcha
[15:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: thats why people need to know what the tradeoff is before picking one dimension of it
[15:51] <tuhin> any Nvidia 6600GT user here?
[15:51] <aannoonn> fsjfewafa: maybe you can 'killall nm-applet' and then restart nm-applet, not sure if it would work
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: thanks for filling me in. I'm always up for learning :)
[15:51] <tuhin> which driver works best with 6600GT ?
[15:51] <BlouBlou> tuhin: The newest one supported by Canonical
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> tuhin: I use the 185 with my 6150
[15:52] <tuhin> i have 2 listed
[15:52] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: theres a few lkml threads about the default & changing it that outline some of the things
[15:52] <tuhin> 1 is said "recomended) and another 173
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i'll go hunt them out
[15:52] <BlouBlou> tuhin: Use 173, I use it with GeForce 5500 FX and works fin
[15:52] <BlouBlou> fine
[15:52] <tuhin> can i have both driver and see which gives high performance?
[15:53] <raven> VLC how to set the buffer size of the network streaming cahce?
[15:53] <BlouBlou> tuhin: You can, but newst one is better, trust me
[15:53] <tuhin> BlouBlou: any problem with the Recomended one?
[15:53] <BlouBlou> tuhin: I never had any problem with it
[15:53] <tuhin> btw which is latest of the 2?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> tuhin: you'll need to install one, reboot, test, uninstall, reboot,install other, reboot, test
[15:53] <BlouBlou> tuhin: 173
[15:54] <tuhin> ok trying the latest one 1st
[15:54] <ohsix> raven: if the defaults aren't enough then you might have a bandwidth issue ...
[15:54] <raven> ohsix, how to set it in vlc?
[15:54] <BlouBlou> tuhin: I wouldn't install the older one, it may fail
[15:55] <ohsix> raven: it's in the options, might need to enable the advanced thing; the one that hides all of it
[15:55] <gmendoza> Good morning folks..
[15:55] <raven> ohsix, ther is only one setting for the transceive option
[15:55] <ohsix> shrug
[15:56] <chogoling> I have a problem with my ubuntu, I installed it today on a separate partition but I've been unable to access it.
[15:56] <fsjfewafa> aannoonn: will give a go
[15:56] <BlouBlou> chogoling: Are you getting any error?
[15:56] <fsjfewafa> ActionParsnip:  so modprobe -r  it?
[15:56] <chogoling> nope
[15:56] <fsjfewafa> then re modprobe
[15:56] <chogoling> nothing comes up
[15:57] <chogoling> no GRUB
[15:57] <chogoling> just goes back to my win7
[15:57] <FloodBot3> chogoling: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: sudo modprobe -r modulename; sleep 2; sudo modprobe modulename
[15:57] <BlouBlou> chogoling: There is GRUB, but it loads too fast, you have to change its wait-time
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> gmendoza: Good mornin'
[15:57] <pointerroyden>  /server linuxsir.org   7000
[15:57] <chogoling> ok uh
[15:57] <pointerroyden> its night here..
[15:57] <gmendoza> :-)
[15:57] <chogoling> how do I do that?
[15:57] <raven> ohsix, ok i just got it tnx
[15:57] <fsjfewafa> ActionParsnip: all very clunky
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: you can make a script to do it then add it to the wakeup scripts so it runs automagically
[15:58] <neto23> hi everybody
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: your wifi doesn't like being hibernated,so you have to work around it
[15:58] <fsjfewafa> presuming Im not a dum non geek
[15:58] <ohsix> don't anthropomorphise computers :]
[15:58] <fsjfewafa> gee why did I leave gentoo hehe
[15:58] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip: Still no further forward with my access point
[15:58] <cryptk> ok, a call to the masses... I just fired up my new blog... leave comments on the first post telling me what you want me to write about...  If you would like me to write about my experiences with Gnome3 on 11.04, go for it... want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, ask for it! http://www.cryptkcoding.com/
[15:59] <cryptk> please try and keep requests Linux or Ubuntu related
[15:59] <fsjfewafa> ActionParsnip: where do I put the script?
[15:59] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip: this is where I have gotten "Broadcom cards support master mode using the reverse-engineered kernel driver. You need to enable (or make as a module) the Softmac wireless extensions and b43 wireless driver."
[15:59] <IdleOne> cryptk: Please don't advertise your blog in here
[16:00] <cryptk> it wasn't an advertisement... it is me asking people what do they want to LEARN
[16:00] <cryptk> it is much easier to write documentation than it is to walk someone through something on IRC
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> fsjfewafa: you could have websearched to find where, I found this http://superuser.com/questions/60473/is-there-a-way-to-call-a-script-when-ubuntu-wakes-up-from-suspend-or-hibernate-mo   you may want to resarch around to verify
[16:01] <gaelfx1> ok, I come back with loads of fun. I can't mount my old hard drive with my old home any more, it says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5. I hope someone can give me good news about this?
[16:01] <cryptk> but if you would rather ostracize a Linux admin from helping, have right at it IdleOne
[16:01] <ohsix> cryptk: it's much harder to keep it up to date
[16:01] <IdleOne> cryptk: Please spare me your victimized Linux admin rant and don't advertise your blog here.
[16:01] <cryptk> ohsix, hence why you state what it applies to, and if someone wants the documentation updated, they request it and I write it
[16:01] <ohsix> gaelfx1: bad news, the drive might have finally ate it and took the superblock with it
[16:02] <gaelfx1> ohsix: shuckses. no possible recovery even with the journaling?
[16:02] <cryptk> IdleOne, obviously you don't understand what I am trying to do, it isn't an advertisement, there is no money made on it, it is a community contribution
[16:02] <ohsix> gaelfx1: if you can't mount it, no
[16:02] <gaelfx1> disregard that, temp insanity due to hard drive failure :(
[16:02] <gluon> how can i install ff 4 on ubuntu 10.10?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> drives are cheap
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !ff4
[16:03] <gaelfx1> well, at least it saved all my torrent settings before it busted
[16:03] <ohsix> gaelfx1: thats why i suggested using dd_rescue from the beginning, because failing drives are often on their way to total failure; imaging it gets you what you can as fast as you can
[16:03] <IdleOne> cryptk: There are other ways of getting readers to comment or request articles for your blog. #ubuntu is not one of those ways. Please feel free to mention it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <gaelfx1> ohsix: there's no chance that could still work? I thought dd didn't need a drive to be mounted?
[16:04] <cryptk> see IdleOne , that is constructive, as opposed to how you initially addresses it... was that so hard?
[16:04] <gaelfx1> ohsix: disk utility still shows all the partitions properly
[16:04] <neto23> hi anyone know how to do a desktop animation on ubuntu? those without frame just the content
[16:04] <ohsix> gaelfx1: it didn't need a drive to be mounted, but if the fs is damaged on the disk; even imaging won't recover enough to mount it again
[16:04] <gaelfx1> darn
[16:05] <ohsix> ya :\
[16:05] <gaelfx1> I'll try disabling those libataforces and see if it might come back to life
[16:09] <neto23> hola alguien sabe como puedo hacer una animacion de escritorio pero sin ventana solo la animacion
[16:10] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "release Alt" or "release Ctrl" signal of some sort the keyboard will work again? Then I can set up the GUI to do this when I click on an icon, allowing me to use the keyboard.
[16:10] <kwtm> I know it's a software problem because when I switch users (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-F8) then the keyboard works again, until I switch back.
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> !es | neto23
[16:11] <chogoling> so can anyone help me? my problem is further up
[16:11] <neto23> thank you
[16:11] <ohsix> kwtm: are you using any remote desktop clients or other strange software that traps keypresses or modifies them? (imwheel?)
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> da nada
[16:12] <ohsix> chogoling: if grub was installed onto the drive you installed it to; and not the main drive, you'll have to pick which drive to boot in the bios boot menu
[16:13] <chogoling> but I don't have it on separate drives, I have it on separate partitions, is that a problem?
[16:13] <ricode> hello
[16:14] <ohsix> if it's just separate partitions then grub should have been installed and it should be working
[16:14] <chogoling> but it isn't
[16:14] <chogoling> it isn't working
[16:14] <ohsix> shrug
[16:14] <pointerroyden> in #ubuntu-cn
[16:14] <chogoling> uh
[16:15] <pointerroyden> list
[16:15] <chogoling> could it be I didn't select something during my installation or something
[16:15] <ohsix> i don't think so; if it finished the installation it should have done it
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> chogoling: Yopu could always try reinstalling.
[16:16] <chogoling> have done that already
[16:16] <bhavesh> any one of u ever tried Visual Basic 6 with wine?
[16:16] <kwtm> ohsix: Good question. No, I'm not. The "held down modifier" effect seems to happen from time to time, on average about once a week, and then I have to reboot.  Hibernating/suspending does not work.  But I switch to another user and it works fine.
[16:17] <kwtm> ohsix: I *do* use the KDE Remote Desktop Client (equivalent to VNCviewer) to view *other* desktops, but no other desktop views mine on the computer where I'm experiencing this problem.
[16:17] <slakcphil> crypt: thanks
[16:17] <slakcphil> cryptk: thanks
[16:17] <ohsix> kwtm: it's the viewing part, not the viewed part; does it happen if you never open the remote viewer?
[16:18] <kwtm> ohsix: Interesting.  I never checked.  I'll have to start paying attention.
[16:18] <cryptk> slakcphil, what did I do?
[16:18] <cryptk> slakcphil, nvm, I see now
[16:18] <kwtm> ohsix: Meanwhile, do you know how to send a signal (maybe xkeyboardsomething) to say "Hey check the keys again"?  Or maybe I can just run the viewer again?
[16:19] <mrproper> I am having problems booting Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 server installer off a USB key.  Depending on the version, I am getting different errors.
[16:19] <kwtm> ohsix: By "never" open the remote viewer, do you mean it might still have a lasting effect if I close the remote viewer properly?  I can check to see if (say) the computer suspends while the viewer is running, but to "never" open the remote viewer implies I'd have to log off & on after I use the remote viewer?
[16:20] <ohsix> kwtm: maybe use a different viewer; really nobody knows the alt state or what happened to it when they grab all the keys and do it poorly
[16:20] <kwtm> ohsix: Good idea.  I'll check it out.  Thanks!
[16:20] <ohsix> kwtm: i mean never in the window you want to test; never having started it it cant mess with your keys, the timeframe is obviously just the session
[16:21] <kwtm> ohsix: Okay.  Thanks for the ideas.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mrproper: tested ram and MD5 tested the ISO?
[16:22] <ohsix> mrproper: how did you prepare the usb key
[16:22] <mrproper> ActionParsnip: I haven't tested RAM nor the MD5.  There's a RAM tester on the ISO, right?
[16:22] <johnzorn> I havent updated my ubuntu install in a few months, when I run the updater it tells me it cant do a full update, it can only do a partial update. I read somewhere it was bad to do a partial update. Whats my best option from here to get my system up to date?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mrproper: sure but you have failed to test the ISO so you have no way of knowing if the data is complete or error free
[16:22] <mrproper> ohsix: I prepared it using the Ubuntu disk creator.  I prepared it using the Windows based bootable key program (drawing a blank on the name)
[16:22] <ohsix> johnzorn: it only offers to do partial updates if you have pinned packages, find out what is held back
[16:23] <ohsix> mrproper: unetbootin?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | mrproper
[16:23] <mrproper> ohsix: No.  It's the one that they recommend on the ubuntu web pge
[16:23] <ohsix> mrproper: if you used the usb startup disk creator, there are different things to check
[16:23] <johnzorn> ohsix, what do you mean by pinned packages?
[16:23] <ohsix> mrproper: ok nevermind me then
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> mrproper: i'd definately start with an ISO check, you should have done it BEFORE using it, this saves time
[16:25] <mrproper> k
[16:26] <yeah_> hai
[16:28] <johnzorn> ohsix, according to apt-cache policy there are no pinned packages
[16:29] <ohsix> johnzorn: you'd probably want to ask synaptic; it'll be louder about the list of things behing held back when you try an upgrade
[16:29] <ohsix> plus thats where the holds/pins would be
[16:32] <blackghost> how
[16:33] <cryptk> hey slakcphil could you hop into #ubuntu-offtopic for a sec, I have a question for ya
[16:34] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[16:34] <monaDeveloper> My machine gets over heated whenever I try to play flash movies or games
[16:34] <monaDeveloper> is there a solution for this
[16:34] <cryptk> monaDeveloper, is it a laptop by chance?
[16:35] <monaDeveloper> cryptk yeah it's a laptop
[16:35] <cryptk> if so, it /could/ be that it is just full of dust, although laptops do tend to run a little warm, especially while chargind the battery
[16:35] <ohsix> monaDeveloper: not likely; but you could try updating your BIOS; if it's actually overheating then the information contained in there for the OS to use is probably wrong
[16:35] <cryptk> but a good start would be jsut getting a can of compressed air and blowind it through all the vents
[16:36] <Sidewinder1> My wife's laptop has an after market set of fans that the laptop sits on to keep it cool.
[16:36] <monaDeveloper> ok I will try that all
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> Think it was about $20.00
[16:37] <mrproper> ActionParsnip: The md5sum is good.
[16:37] <monaDeveloper> but actually my laptop is clean because I changed my  vga card recently
[16:37] <monaDeveloper> and got it cleaned because of the same problem
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> mrproper: ok then test ram using the usb device, when you see the stickman + keyboard screen, press SPACE and select the memory test
[16:37] <wwww> !wubi
[16:38] <mrproper> ActionParsnip: I'm running a memory test now.
[16:38] <wwww> if my ubuntu is installed with wubi and if my windows brakes will i still have ubuntu?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> mrproper: cool
[16:38] <aeon-ltd> wwww: yes as long as mbr is ok to boot
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> wwww: the wubi file is simply help on the ntfs partition, as long as the stuff wubi needs isnt affected you will be ok
[16:39] <atlef> is it possible to get info on the bios in ubuntu?
[16:40] <Sidewinder1> monaDeveloper: you may be interested it this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834989009&cm_re=external_laptop_fan-_-34-989-009-_-Product
[16:40] <wwww> THANKS
[16:40] <Osmodivs> !blender
[16:41] <no-nick> holla everyone
[16:41] <marsje> how can I select which photos to import from my camera with F-Spot? I used to be able to choose, but now it seems to be all or nothing
[16:41] <no-nick> how you can fast restart ubuntu ?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: how do you mean?
[16:42] <dusf> would it be possible to have / on one parition, and ~ on a much larger ntfs one, with windows' programs/program files located within?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> dusf: home on ntfs isn't a good idea
[16:42] <dusf> thereby keeping ubuntu system and windows system files on two separate partitions, but allowing all shared media, and program files to grow on remaining space?
[16:43] <dusf> ActionParsnip: how come?
[16:43] <wwww> with wubi i cant see the partition where windows is installed right?
[16:43] <dusf> !ntfs
[16:43] <iszak> What's a good GUI temperature sensor in ubuntu?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> dusf: have a small home partition (or have home as part of the root partition), then just access the user data on the ntfs as you need. NTFS cannot hold effective unix permissions and will cause issues
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | iszak
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> wwww: yes from /host   folder
[16:44] <wwww> dusf:  i know i can see the other partitions but the one where is ubuntu and windows installed can i see that
[16:44] <cryptk> ActionParsnip, lm-sensors isn't GUI
[16:44] <wwww> ActionParsnip:  thats
[16:44] <wwww> thanks
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> cryptk: read the guide, it shows how you can add a panel applet, gui
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> wwww: many people like to run:   ln -s /host ~/host
[16:45] <no-nick> how you can restart ubuntu only ?
[16:45] <cryptk> ahh, so it does
[16:45] <no-nick> not your machine
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: is ubuntu in a virtual machine of some sort?
[16:45] <jiahui> 都是英文？？
[16:45] <cryptk> iszak, if you are looking for something that isn't a panel applet, check out gkrellm and conky as well, gkrellm is likely easier
[16:45] <no-nick> no ActionParsnip i think its an OS
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: why do you need to reboot? There may be another way around...
[16:46] <kevin__> #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <no-nick> i have made some changes
[16:47] <no-nick> and wants to restart the ubuntu
[16:47] <Bronko> hi guys
[16:47] <Bronko> know anybody how can i disable my netbook card reader ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: to what? If you can give full details we can advise "Made some changes" is far too vague to be of any us to anyone
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> Bronko: bios.
[16:48] <Bronko> i use a macbook ;)
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: have you installed some updates and it is requesting a reboot?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> odd situation , trying open ~/.bashrc to add some aliases , but it doesn't exist on my new ubuntu install. I don't recall having to create it on kde
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Bronko: you can blacklist and/or remove the module it uses
[16:48] <ohsix> iszak: there are panel ones, too; right click and add one :]
[16:48] <no-nick> yeah man yeah
[16:48] <Bronko> how ca i do this ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: wich!?
[16:49] <no-nick> don remamber the last updates for 11.04
[16:49] <iszak> ohsix, I installed the sensor applet but it's not coming up
[16:49] <iszak> I think I may need to restart
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: natty isn't supported here, if you installed a new kernel you will need to do a fullreboot to load it, it doesn't hurt anything running your current kernel
[16:49] <aeon-ltd> Bronko: then thats not entirely possible, macs have no bios, in linux though i think you can blacklist a module or something. thats all i know
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Bronko: remove as in: sudo modprobe -r modulename
[16:50] <no-nick> how can i reload the shell if I want to ?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: i believe its ALT+K+PrintScreen. I always re-enable CTRL+ALT+BackSpace
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> no-nick: doing that won't load the newer kernel
[16:51] <Bronko> i use powerTOP... and i see: USB device 1-1.3 : Card reader (apple) usw many power
[16:51] <no-nick> ok but it will reload the shell right ?
[16:51] <ohsix> iszak: if it runs on the panel you'll need to add it as well
[16:51] <Bronko> if i write ps | ax grep apple i see no card reader modul
[16:51] <iszak> ohsix, I don't understand what you mean? :S
[16:51] <ohsix> iszak: right click on some of the blank space on your top bar, pick "add to panel"
[16:52] <iszak> yeah I've done that, not coming up in there
[16:52] <iszak> like I said, think i need to restart
[16:52] <Bronko> can i modprobe modules listing ?
[16:52] <ohsix> iszak: killall gnome-panel would be sufficient, it restarts itself
[16:52] <Bronko> ahhh i see with -l
[16:53] <iszak> ohsix, bingo :)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Bronko: sudo lshw -C disk     will show te disks with their associated modules
[16:53] <Bronko> ok
[16:54] <iszak> ohsix, not very accurate at telling what's a stable temperature not, it says 63C is hot!
[16:54] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i have a < 300gb HDD and would like to assign say 20gb for Windows, and 15gb for Ubuntu, and not have to keep moving and resiszing either everytime I want to install a large program
[16:55] <carl-eric> hi - I'm trying to set up maverick with / and swap on an encrypted raid1. installation went okay, but grub setup is failing with an embedding error. what do i need to change in my partition layout to satisfy grub?
[16:55] <ohsix> iszak: shrug, need to look at datasheets to really see what's appropriate
[16:55] <dusf> ActionParsnip: it could work ubuntu side as you already just alias your media folders on the large ntfs partition, perhaps I could point .wine at it
[16:55] <Bronko> its listed as SD cad reader
[16:55] <Bronko> its listed as SD card reader
[16:55] <iszak> ohsix, exactly, my GPU runs high 80C stable
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> dusf: you could make the ubuntu partition quite small then just symlink images, videos etc to the ntfs folders
[16:56] <Bronko> must be unmount the usb card reader ?
[16:56] <Bronko> for disable it ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Bronko: makes sense
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> dusf: I'd check 20Gb for windows is eniugh, think about the apps you will install
[16:57] <tw1z> Is there a way to disable the system halt on boot notifying me of a failed mount and asking me to push S to continue?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> dusf: *enough
[16:57] <tw1z> Problem is SSH hasnt started yet and I have no way to admin the box remotely until someone pushes S.
[16:57] <Bronko> thx ActionParsnip
[16:57] <dusf> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's the thing, right now i only want to install apps that will take up about 30gb, but say there's something else in a few days, or a few months?
[16:58] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i'm investigating whether it's possible to point window's program files/program dir at the larger ntfs storage partition
[16:59] <ohsix> tw1z: remove the failed mount
[16:59] <ohsix> tw1z: or mark it noauto
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> dusf: then you will need more space as a buffer to accommodate. I use 10Gb for / and it's ok, depends what both OSes are for. You'll need to have a think / plan
[16:59] <tw1z> that doesnt allow me to access the system
[16:59] <tw1z> until a mount fails :X
[16:59] <tw1z> in general anyway to disable that system?
[16:59] <ohsix> tw1z: well theres nothing you can do now
[16:59] <tw1z> the box is up
[16:59] <tw1z> i had someone resolbve it
[17:00] <tw1z> im saying in the future
[17:00] <ohsix> cycle the power or use ipmi to press S
[17:00] <tw1z> anyway to prevent that from happening
[17:00] <olfa> salu
[17:00] <ohsix> in the future, mark it noauto or remove the mount
[17:00] <johnzorn> whats the file that has a list of all the packages installed and their status?
[17:00] <steff12321> How can I install iptables_opendns
[17:00] <tw1z> well I want it auto but sometimes after reboot the hd doesnt spin up (no idea why) but on cold boot they all boot i dont wanna have to manually mount filesystems each time only if they fail ill mount em
[17:01] <tw1z> not sure if this makes sense
[17:01] <tw1z> basically i just want to change the behavior of mounting to if it fails so what keep going
[17:01] <Gucci> any1 know how to make custom 40 file active?
[17:01] <ohsix> johnzorn: /var/lib/dpkg/status but what information does that give you?
[17:02] <Guest91110> can someone tell me how i can bring up a list of kernels i can boot in a system i already have
[17:02] <r_a_f> Gucci: what you mean 'active'?
[17:02] <Gucci> r_a_f: it doesnt work
[17:02] <Gucci> r_a_f: i updated
[17:03] <Gucci> r_a_f: grub. but It wont show xp entry
[17:03] <Gucci> r_a_f: want me to send you My custom 40 file? you can check if its correct
[17:03] <johnzorn> ohsix, to check if any packages have statuses that are out of whack so I can fix em
[17:03] <ohsix> johnzorn: that's best done in synaptic or aptitude
[17:03] <carl-eric> What's the correct setup if I have two disks, I want / encrypted and on a raid1?
[17:04] <r_a_f> Gucci: edit grub manually and add xp - thats all - or wait for next update
[17:04] <dusf> ActionParsnip: used 10gb initiall for ubuntu but the install is up to 8.7gb now so i resized the partition to 15gb, ~ is on a partition containing all remaining space
[17:04] <Gucci> r_a_f: lol I did that!
[17:04] <Gucci> r_a_f: but how do I tell grub to use the 40 file
[17:05] <ohsix> why don't you look and see what the other files look like in that directory
[17:05] <Gucci> GOD DAMN ive been doing this for weeks. No one seems to be experienced enough to know the answer. so depressing
[17:05] <Gucci> ohsix: ?
[17:05] <r_a_f> Gucci: what is 40 file?
[17:05] <Gucci> r_a_f: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[17:06] <ohsix> you don't seemed to have even looked in the most trivial place to solve your problem, i'm not really surprised nobody offered to help; i'm more surprised you've kept it up for as long as you have without just figuring it out for yourself
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> r_a_f, 40_custom from /etc/grub.d i imagine
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> dusf: keep kernels down and run: sudo apt-get clean  frequently, you can also put your browser cache in RAM instead of on the disk to ease pressure that way too
[17:06] <Nekosan> connect to irc.irchighway.net
[17:06] <ohsix> ugh
[17:07] <johnzorn> I guess I'll just do a partial upgrade and fix the system afterwards, hopefully
[17:07] <Guest91110> i want to boot to another kernel on my system how can i bring up a list that is avaiable while booting up
[17:07] <r_a_f> Gucci: ZykoticK9:  OKOK ;) - i think just edit grub and add your xp lol
[17:07] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies from that command
[17:07] <JasonC_> How do I make Ubuntu always show hidden files?
[17:07] <Gucci> ohsix: sorry im not a genius, clearly you have figured it out already>?
[17:08] <r_a_f> not 40 ..... just main grub list edit as root
[17:08] <ohsix> johnzorn: aptitude and synaptic will tell you what it's holding back when you attempt an upgrade
[17:08] <Gucci> r_a_f: cant edit the grub.cf or w,e
[17:08] <Gucci> r_a_f: not supposed to
[17:08] <ohsix> Gucci: i will tell you in 4 more weeks
[17:08] <crum> Hi
[17:09] <crum> I'm still banned from ubuntu-offtopic and it's been a week now
[17:09] <ohsix> it'sin your best interest to figure it out
[17:09] <crum> I don't even know what I did
[17:09] <crum> where is the justice
[17:09] <oCean> crum: visit #ubuntu-ops
[17:09] <r_a_f> Gucci:  grub2?
[17:09] <crum> thanks
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: does the CTRL+H not stick between running nautilus (I assume nautilus)
[17:10] <Gucci> r_a_f yes
[17:10] <ohsix> crum: you can also ask hypatia, whoever that is, they set the ban
[17:11] <JasonC_> ActionParsnip: No it doesn't and yes the default nautilus
[17:11] <ohsix> sticks for me
[17:11] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies
[17:11] <Guest91110> i want to boot to another kernel on my system how can i bring up a list that is avaiable while booting up
[17:11] <Gucci> r_a_f: yes
[17:11] <Gucci> r_a_f: grub 2
[17:11] <ohsix> are you running nautilus with sudo or something?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: http://www.watchingthenet.com/always-show-hidden-files-in-ubuntu-nautilus-file-browser.html
[17:12] <JasonC_> ActionParsnip: Found it. Have to go into Edit > Preferences and set it there
[17:12] <JasonC_> ActionParsnip: Thanks :P
[17:12] <ZykoticK9> Guest91110, hold shift down while booting to get the grub2 menu
[17:12] <dusf> ActionParsnip: 'keep kernels down'?
[17:12] <r_a_f> Gucci: sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg    //and add your xp entry
[17:12] <Guest91110> zykotick9 thanks
[17:13] <Gucci> ill try
[17:13] <ohsix> dusf: they aren't automatically removed, and if you've done updates for a few months you probably have more than one version installed
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, if you follow above advice, any kernel updates will remove your XP
[17:13] <Gucci> fck
[17:13] <ohsix> any update-grub will too
[17:13] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: ty lol
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> dusf: sure, you will install new kernels over time, remove the old ones to reduce necessary space
[17:13] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies
[17:13] <Gucci> r_a_f: dude you cant edit grub.cfg! your not supposed to
[17:14] <ohsix> sure you can
[17:14] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, it's just that the settings in grub.cfg will be removed after any updates
[17:14] <r_a_f> ZykoticK9: ohsix: remove xp from grub or .... what?
[17:14] <IdleOne> ljsoftnet: you purge vlc
[17:14] <Gucci> ohsix: huh?
[17:14] <ljsoftnet> IdleOne how?
[17:15] <IdleOne> ljsoftnet: sudo apt-get purge vlc
[17:15] <IdleOne> ljsoftnet: that will also remove vlc mind you
[17:15] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: I know. I just wanna know how I get my custom 40 file to work lol https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[17:15] <dusf> ohsix & ActionParsnip: thanks, i see a few of them in grub when i boot, what's the command please?
[17:15] <JasonC_> Firefox 4 seems to have taken over FTP. If I click Places > example.ftp.site it will launch Firefox - How do I disable this? I can still view FTP if I click the mount in nautilus. I've checked preferences in Applications but no mention of FTP
[17:16] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, ? i was able to get it working the other day (to rename the entries) - but that wasn't on Ubuntu...
[17:16] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: what was it? that doesnt help me 2 much lol
[17:16] <r_a_f> Gucci: maybe this help >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200513
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, i have no suggestions sorry (it was on Debian BTW)
[17:17] <IdleOne> Gucci: not sure this is what you need but have you looked at the startup-manager package?
[17:18] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: dang, how did you manage to change it
[17:18] <Gucci> IdleOne: tried it
[17:18] <kurohyou> hi, i have an asus at3ion board, according to the manual the 3 connections for my sound can be used as analog 5.1, but i don't seem to get it to work, chip on mobo is acl887, anybody knows of has experience with this issue
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> dusf: there is no single command, you can run:  uname -a   to see the currentl kernel. You can then run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2    and see the installed kernels. You can remove the installed kernels but NOT the current kernel
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, i just added the entries to 40_custom, updated grub and rebooted - done
[17:18] <Cem_Nome5> hi
[17:18] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: I tried haha
[17:18] <Homely_Girl> A quick question: Is Maverick okay with wireless broadband?? I'm installing a landline 'n most companies provide wireless routers!
[17:19] <Cem_Nome5> I use Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm trying to configure D-Link DWL-G122
[17:19] <r_a_f> Gucci: sudo update-grub2 			 		
[17:19] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: does my 40 file look right?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Homely_Girl: yes its fine
[17:19] <Gucci> r_a_f: ill give it a try
[17:19] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595164/
[17:19] <Gucci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/595164/
[17:20] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: is there any way to tell grub to load the 40 custom?
[17:20] <Homely_Girl> ActionParsnip, Thanks alot, can't believe how smooth Maverick is too!! :)
[17:20] <ohsix> dusf: long term searching for space isn't going to get any easier; you can resize & move partitions, but getting a bigger drive is really cheap
[17:20] <Gucci> gonna restart guys
[17:20] <Gucci> brb
[17:20] <zen> http://www.webcoz.com/how-to-install-gnome3-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-11-04-natty/
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Homely_Girl: yeah its pretty swish
[17:20] <ohsix> gucci is helpless, let him figure it out
[17:21] <zen> cannot install gnome 3  for maverick from ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[17:21] <induz> does any one knows how to use AppWizard
[17:21] <Homely_Girl> ActionParsnip, Thanks I'll let you get on 'n help all these other peeps, no doubt I may return in time! lol
[17:21] <lwizardl> hello
[17:22] <Gucci> Hey guys
[17:22] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: back
[17:22] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: one more question
[17:22] <r_a_f> lol quick
[17:22] <wonderstar> hi to all
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, sorry i'm no help with Windows booting - so no idea if that is correct or not
[17:22] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: how can you make it too not hide grub during boot
[17:22] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: talking about the link?
[17:22] <lwizardl> i just installed the 11.04 beta2 and need to know how change the horrible gui on the new system. how do i make this look like 10.10 again
[17:23] <Gucci> r_a_f: lol yeah, can you check my custom 40 file?
[17:23] <trism> lwizardl: select ubuntu classic as the session on the login screen, and questions about 11.04 in #ubuntu+1
[17:23] <BenBE> I have an Asus EEEPC 1001P go and a problem with display brightness. When I change display brightness with the keyboard shortcuts it doesn't increase brightness lineary but randomly. And thoughts on how to fix this? Maverick, but same also with Lucid.
[17:23] <r_a_f> lwizardl: in gdm select classic like trism said ;)
[17:23] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, i'm sure the grub hidding is in /etc/default/grub - but i couldn't see it on my quick glance
[17:24] <kurohyou> anybody here using analog 5.1 with acl887 chip?
[17:24] <ZykoticK9> Gucci, talking about your pastebin - it's a windows entry, i can't help with that.
[17:24] <ohsix> wizard was just here to drop some mad adjectives
[17:25] <Gucci> ZykoticK9: dang
[17:25] <JasonC_> Does anyone know where the default mime list is stored?
[17:25] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:25] <UbuntuRules> Hello gentleman, I am running ubuntu 10.10, when I left click or right click on any link under places it opens archive manager instead of that place location, How can I correct this?
[17:26] <ohsix> JasonC_: theres no default list, it's read from the .desktop files and local settings/whiteouts are in the users home dir in .local iirc
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> BenBE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/1001P
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: maybe http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man5/mime.types.af.5.html
[17:28] <wonderstar> i instaled xchat on 10.10 but when i start itit do notxing
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuRules: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[17:28] <BenBE> ActionParsnip Thanks. I'll give it a try.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuRules: you need to re-associate folders to open with nautilus
[17:30] <dusf> ActionParsnip & ohsix: thank you both
[17:30] <UbuntuRules> ActionParsnip: Thanks man works like a charm
[17:30] <kourasmenos> hey
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuRules: getting less of those now, loads of people asking that in the answers forum.I always paste that link
[17:31] <kourasmenos> does any1 know if there's  jdownloader in synaptic?
[17:32] <ohsix> kourasmenos: no, there isn't, but there is a ppa for it
[17:32] <UbuntuRules> ActionParsnip: I had never expierenced this one before, has anyone figured out what may cause it?
[17:32] <ohsix> kourasmenos: you should try tucan, that is in synaptic, and it's nice, no junk
[17:34] <kourasmenos> can i use premium account settings in tucan?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuRules: no idea, I just know the fix
[17:34] <UbuntuRules> thanks man.
[17:34] <ohsix> kourasmenos: yep
[17:34] <JasonC_> For anyone else who has problems with FTP > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4273200&postcount=4
[17:35] <kourasmenos> ill give it a try :)
[17:36] <nits_hunter> hey guys, i forgot my IRC password, empathy automatically connects, any chance i can recover it?
[17:36] <dougl> can someone please define the options used in this link "ln -sf foo ufoo"
[17:36] <dougl> ie what does -sf mean?
[17:36] <MaxMetal89> hello everyone, why in natty beta 2 flash player sometimes have problems dispaying contents? 11.04 amd64
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> dougl, s for symbolic -- maning for f
[17:37] <dougl> ZykoticK9, thanks for the help
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> dougl, man page says "do not sort" of -f --- i have no idea what that means
[17:38] <rumpe1> MaxMetal89, thats not unusual... flash sucks
[17:38] <dougl> ZykoticK9, thanks for the help tho :)
[17:38] <Sidewinder1> Is flash written in Java?
[17:38] <MaxMetal89> yeah rumpe1 i know but in 10.10 worked well
[17:39] <MaxMetal89> in 11.04 really sucks
[17:39] <llutz> ZykoticK9: (do not sort) thats "man ls" not "man ln"
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> dougl, -s is very common for ln -- can go across partitions, and is NOT a hard link
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> dougl: s   means 'symbolic' and f means 'force' which will overwrite files or links if the thing lready exists afaik, read :  man ln
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: most likely not
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> llutz, ooops.  Thanks.  I'll blame it on not having a coffee yet ;)  dougl
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> MaxMetal89: natty is offtopichere, ask in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[17:39] <nits_hunter> hey guys, i forgot my IRC password, empathy automatically connects, any chance i can recover it?
[17:40] <MaxMetal89> ah ok
[17:40] <Sidewinder1> Thanx AP
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> MaxMetal89: you are using a beta OS, what did you expect!?
[17:40] <IdleOne> nits_hunter: you can ask in #freenode for them to send you a password reset email
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> nits_hunter: ask in #freenode
[17:40] <nakaori> nits_hunter, you can sniff the password using dsniff
[17:40] <nakaori> :)
[17:40] <van7hu_> yes
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> dougl, -f is "force", remove existing destination files (i'd use that with caution)
[17:40] <nits_hunter> thanks IdleOne ActionParsnip :)
[17:41] <nits_hunter> nakaori: how do we do that?
[17:41] <nakaori> just install dsniff sudo apt-get install dsniff and start it by issueing dsniff -i eth0
[17:41] <nakaori> your password should show up as soon as you connect
[17:42] <nits_hunter> nakaori: nice!!! thanks :D
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> nakaori: what if the password isn't stored?
[17:42] <nakaori> if you are not using ssl that is
[17:42] <nakaori> ActionParsnip, then not.. but he said empathy would autoconnect
[17:42] <nakaori> ActionParsnip, so the password must be stored, right?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> nakaori: i see, nice :)
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> nakaori: makes sense
[17:42] <nakaori> :)
[17:42] <vesper> my torrent is peed is very slow even though my normal download is fast . can anybody help?????
[17:43] <nits_hunter> ActionParsnip: Empathy's got password stored :D nakaori: Good stuff, i'll try it out and post back
[17:43] <cyoz> hello there, stupid question but if I try to open an NTFS external harddisc on linux, will it automatically format it or something?
[17:43] <dougl> hey thanks for the help ZykoticK9 and ActionParsnip :)
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> dougl: np man
[17:43] <ZykoticK9> dougl, glad to help
[17:43] <nakaori> thats more kinda the hackerish way to recover stuff :)
[17:43] <nits_hunter> vesper: maybe the seeding's bad.... for that torrent i mean
[17:43] <aaasasas> hello, guys! i've created a username with useradd, but i want to create the user like system user and i don't want to see that username in my login screen as an option. can i create such user?
[17:44] <vesper> i have checked it with 3-4 torrents
[17:44] <vesper> @nits_hunter:i have checked it with 3-4 torrents
[17:44] <nits_hunter> vesper:  tried changing the port it uses?
[17:44] <cyoz> what is a decent audio player for ubuntu?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> vesper: try port forwarding in your router, it can help
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> cyoz: deadbeef :)
[17:44] <vesper> nits_hunter:wats that???
[17:44] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies
[17:45] <cyoz> ActionParsnip, it's not in the software center :<
[17:45] <ZykoticK9> vesper, just so there is no confusion uploads will always be slower then downloads (always being a relative term)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> cyoz: no but its decent, there are mediaplayers in software  centre
[17:45] <dougl> ok - I have to "sudo ln -sf /dev/urandom /dev/random" every time my notebook powers up to be able to log into my work pc = How do I do this automatically?
[17:46] <vesper> @ZykotiK9:i did not understand a single word
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> dougl: take off the 'sudo' bit and add it in /etc/rc.local
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> dougl: above the exit 0 line
[17:46] <dougl> ActionParsnip, checking it out now
[17:46] <An_Ony_Moose> how do I configure an SSH server to accept public keys?
[17:46] <ZykoticK9> vesper, uploads will be slower then downloads
[17:46] <dougl> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:46] <QuiSE> how can I figure out were the software has been installed in ubuntu?
[17:47] <QuiSE> I need to place a plugin, into the folder.
[17:47] <nakaori> QuiSE,  find / -name application
[17:47] <vesper> ya i got it but my problem is with the downloads its slower than normal download
[17:47] <ZykoticK9> !tab > vesper
[17:47] <Gotin17> slinkeepR_ eto te ;d
[17:47] <slinkeepR_> :)
[17:47] <ZykoticK9> vesper, you also don't need to use @ signs in IRC
[17:48] <Gotin17> tuka sa 80% hackerite ot cql swqt ;p
[17:48] <slinkeepR_> xaxa
[17:48] <slinkeepR_> qko
[17:48] <slinkeepR_> :D
[17:48] <ayghad> hi
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> QuiSE: is it for a browser?
[17:48] <haitham> Hi guys, i'm trying to use skype on Ubuntu 10.10 but my laptop's internal mic isn't working - when i go to options -> Microphone I see only 'PulseAudio server(local)' for an option. Tried on Sound Recorder (from apps) and it worked.
[17:48] <cyoz> is there a reason why firefox is still 3.6 in ubuntu?
[17:48] <haitham> Any suggestions?
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> cyoz, see !latest factoid if interested
[17:49] <long__> long
[17:49] <cyoz> eh, mind giving me a TL;DR
[17:49] <cyoz> ?
[17:49] <nits_hunter> nakaori: i did use dsniff -i eth0, but it just keeps listening , no other output
[17:49] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies
[17:50] <kbrosnan> !fx4 | cyoz
[17:50] <nakaori> uhm
[17:50] <nakaori> are you using ssl nits_hunter ?
[17:50] <cyoz> I see
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> nits_hunter: you can make this quicker by getting it reset then apply the new pass
[17:50] <cyoz> thanks
[17:50] <tuhl> anybody using gnome3 here?
[17:50] <nits_hunter> nakaori: i don't think so.... ActionParsnip: Copy that, i am on it.
[17:50] <nakaori> nits_hunter, or are you connecting through wlan0 ?:D
[17:50] <gaurav_help> i want to copy my iso image data to my usb device through cmd prompt
[17:50] <nits_hunter> nakaori: nope, regular eth0 :P
[17:51] <nakaori> mhhhh then i'm out.. :/
[17:51] <nakaori> or
[17:51] <nakaori> let me check :D
[17:51] <dougl> ActionParsnip, worked like a charm = thanks again :)
[17:51] <haitham> Hi guys, i'm trying to use skype on Ubuntu 10.10 but my laptop's internal mic isn't working - when i go to options -> Microphone I see only 'PulseAudio server(local)' for an option. Tried on Sound Recorder (from apps) and it worked.
[17:51] <ljsoftnet> if i sudo apt-get build-dep vlc it installs dependencies for vlc rigth, how do i uninstall the dependecies
[17:51] <cyoz> I always thought ubuntu doesn't work with NTFS but it seems to read my external NTFS drives just fine
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> dougl: npman
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> cyoz: it'll write to them too
[17:52] <necromancer> hi, i'm running a VPS with a bunch of Rails apps on it. i need the Apache account "www-data" to have read access, and i need my personal user account "necromancer" to have read/write access (so i can manipulate the git repositories they're all kept in). what's the best way to accomplish this?
[17:52] <nakaori> nits_hunter, mhh.. works for me, with that command :/ sorry
[17:52] <cyoz> sweet
[17:52] <cyoz> I was afraid it would automatically format them
[17:53] <cyoz> +_+
[17:53] <bastidrazor> imagebin
[17:53] <nits_hunter> nakaori: mmmhhh... no probs man, thanks for helping though :)
[17:53] <nakaori> no problem
[17:54] <haitham> ubuntoforums.org is down?
[17:54] <Arachon> haitham: Seems so
[17:54] <ayghad> hi
[17:54] <haitham> ouch
[17:54] <klaus_> hi
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> haitham: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[17:55] <haitham> Wew, useful website. Thanks! :D
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> haitham: very
[17:55] <nits_hunter> ActionParsnip: nakaori: Thanks guys, changed the pwd
[17:55] <ayghad> can someone help me to integrate cccam on kaffeine
[17:55] <nakaori> :)
[17:56] <nakaori> ActionParsnip, that website says that my website is down..
[17:56] <nakaori> which it isnt..
[17:56] <nakaori> :D
[17:57] <haitham> I'm a bit newb with Ubuntu/linux - if I want to install a package (I installed a SMART monitoring tool) and renamed it to smart.deb in my Downloads folder - when I try the dpkg -i command it doesn't work, says 'can't find the package' ?
[17:57] <haitham> Is there a specific folder to save downloaded packages in?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> nakaori: interesting, what's your site?
[17:58] <nakaori> nakaori.net
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> haitham: any will do
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> nakaori: so it does. strange
[17:58] <Sidewinder1> haitham: Why not just use Synaptic?
[17:58] <nakaori> ActionParsnip, hehe
[17:59] <haitham> I'll google that
[17:59] <Sidewinder1> !synaptic | haitham
[17:59] <haitham> BTW, Terminal still gives me error 'cannot access archive: no such file or directory'
[18:00] <haitham> Oh
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> haitham: did you change the pwd to the folder you downloaded the file to?
[18:00] <haitham> Nope
[18:00] <haitham> It's same as my pwd.
[18:01] <haitham> I mean no PW at all - i mixed between that and the sudo -i asking for pwd thing.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> haitham: so if you run: ls     do you see the file (LS in lowercase)
[18:01] <syrius> how do I disable ubuntu logs??
[18:01] <syrius> the kernel logs takes up way too much space
[18:01] <haitham>   /home is not encrypted
[18:01] <syrius> 2 gbs
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> haitham: that is moot
[18:01] <rumpe1> syrinx_, then something is wrong...check your logs
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> haitham: do you see the file?
[18:02] <haitham> Hmm, ls?
[18:02] <haitham> yee
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> haitham: yes, its a command, run it
[18:02] <haitham> I just tried
[18:02] <haitham> its in lowercase
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> haitham: and do you see smart.deb ?
[18:02] <haitham> yep
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> haitham: ok then run: sudo dpkg -i ./smart.deb
[18:03] <ohsix> syrius: /etc/logrotate.conf (.d) has settings, you can make it truncate much smaller files or not keep them as long
[18:03] <ohsix> syrius: you might have something weird going on if a single log is 2gb though
[18:03] <haitham> same, cannot access the archive (no such file or directory)
[18:03] <syrius> I have two of them that take up 2gbs
[18:03] <haitham> BTW, i created the /home partition as a primary one not logical
[18:03] <mc_teo> hello
[18:03] <haitham> Could that cause this?
[18:04] <syrius> Delete 2.59GB /var/log/kern.log.1
[18:04] <syrius> Delete 2.59GB /var/log/messages.1
[18:04] <Ziber> I've set up SSH keys on my ubuntu 10.10 machine and set up .ssh/authorized_keys on both ends, etc. When trying to ssh from one to the other, I get "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key".
[18:04] <caojie> Hi
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> haitham: no, as long as you can see the file it will be ok. You can also doubleclick the file in GUI if you have one
[18:04] <mc_teo> i am installing ubuntu from live cd
[18:04] <caojie>  I ?
[18:05] <haitham> Yep,  that way works fine
[18:05] <mc_teo> i have 25 gb free that i shrunk a windows partition
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> syrius: sounds like you have an issue. I haven't changed mine and they are 5Mb here
[18:05] <ohsix> syrius: you should probably check out the contents before removing them
[18:05] <mkanyicy> Ziber, you want to have automatic (password-less) login on ssh?
[18:05] <mc_teo> so i chose manually sort out partitions, from the menu
[18:05] <haitham> But I was confused why wouldn't it work via Terminal
[18:05] <mc_teo> could i install the bootloader on a dell recovery partition
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> syrius: I suggest you run:  dmesg    and read the last 20 or so lines
[18:05] <mc_teo> ?
[18:05] <Ziber> mkanyicy: Yes, I do.
[18:06] <mkanyicy> Ziber, did you use ssh-copy-id?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> haitham: not sure,if ls shows the file it is in pwd so ./filename will make it work, only thing I can think of is case sensitivity
[18:06] <Ziber> ... Considering I dont know what that is, I'm going to say no.
[18:07] <haitham> hope i'm not bothering, but what do you mean by 'pwd'? Password?
[18:07] <mkanyicy> Ziber, you no longer have to set up authorized_keys by hand anymore, that command does it for you
[18:07] <Ziber> Well, I already did, lol.
[18:08] <mkanyicy> Ziber, ok let me listen on what you have done
[18:08] <mkanyicy> Ziber, you have done ssh-keygen, right?
[18:08] <syrius> I get unknown input a bunch of times
[18:08] <Ziber> mkanyicy: yes
[18:08] <syrius> for eth0
[18:08] <brightspark> haitham: print working directory
[18:09] <mc_teo> there are dell recovery partitions
[18:09] <mkanyicy> Ziber, and took your public key into authorized_keys file of the remote machine right?
[18:09] <Ziber> mkanyicy: yes
[18:09] <mc_teo> can i install grub to these rather than main windows one
[18:09] <mc_teo> so i can hold boot to recovery partition button to load ubuntu
[18:10] <mkanyicy> Ziber, can you then revert what you did and do it the easy way
[18:11] <Ziber> mkanyicy: THis is a way that I know works... I've done this on all of my other boxes...
[18:11] <mkanyicy> Ziber, can you remove your keys from the authorized_keys of both machines
[18:11] <mkanyicy> Ziber, ok then
[18:12] <bin_bash> Hello. Anytime I try to install Maverick or Natty, it doesn't recognize my CD drive. I'm using a MBP 8,1.
[18:12] <jemadux> i want to make a hackergotchi ... can someone help me ?
[18:12] <haitham> is there a command to list information about my current ubuntu / linux installation?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: did you MD5 test  the Ubuntu ISO you downloaded?
[18:13] <raven> 10.04 every time i get a hd check error message with option correct, i or s at startup - the drive is new what could be the error
[18:13] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip:  Yes
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> haitham: in what sense?
[18:13] <bin_bash> the hash matches
[18:13] <Ziber> mkanyicy: Googled and enabled ssh-agent. Thanks for your help though.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: are you using CD or USB to install?
[18:13] <haitham> To know if I installed the 64-bit version or not, the exact version and so on
[18:13] <Ziber> haitham: uname -a
[18:13] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: CD. I only have a 512MB usb drive.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> haitham: uname -m   will show arch
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> haitham: lsb_release -a    will show release
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> haitham: i686 = 32bit     x86_64 = 64bit
[18:14] <haitham> ah
[18:14] <haitham> Thanks alot.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: that's not big enough
[18:14] <mkanyicy> Ziber, was about to show you that bug, next time google first, irc later
[18:14] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I know. That's why I'm using a CD.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: try using minimal + wired internet connection
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: ahh i see
[18:14] <Kenbo11> Is ubuntuforums.org down right now or is it me?
[18:15] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip:  Don't have a wired internet connection.
[18:15] <Gucci> IM BACK
[18:15] <Gucci> IT WORKED
[18:15] <Gucci> BRIEFLY
[18:15] <FloodBot2> Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: did you test the CD for defects once the CD starts to boot?
[18:15] <Gucci> grub loads now but the problem is that now it wont load xp!
[18:15] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip:  How can I do that?
[18:15] <Gucci> just restarts
[18:15] <Gucci> Dr_Willis: heyhey
[18:15] <Gucci> ohsix: hey
[18:16] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I also burned 3 different copies with 2 different downloads, and had the same problem with ArchBang
[18:16] <haitham> I downloaded the 64bit package for this SMART-Mon tool
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: when you see the stickman + keyboard screen, press SPACE and test it, you can also test the RAM too
[18:16] <Gucci> can anyone help me
[18:16] <Gucci> I got so close
[18:16] <haitham> perhaps that's why the terminal is refusing to install it
[18:16] <doobien> bin_bash, of course you have to set up your device first in boot order
[18:16] <bin_bash> doobien:  lolwat
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> haitham: possibly, if you are using the wrong arch it won't install
[18:16] <Gucci> dang it guys
[18:17] <Gucci> thanks
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Kenbo11: I've heard people say so I'd go with yes
[18:17] <Kenbo11> Thanx Action
[18:18] <cats4gold> Am I able to check my battery life via command line?
[18:18] <brightspark> bin_bash: you need to change your BIOS to give the CD priority
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> cats4gold: acpi -b
[18:18] <cats4gold> thanks
[18:18] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip:  I think I know what you're talking about, with the option to "Check Disk for Defects" However, once I get to the Ubuntu splash screen, it loads for a minute or too and then takes me to the initranfs screen and says "unable to find medium containing a live file system"
[18:18] <bin_bash> brightspark:  No I don't but thanks for playing.
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: also testram
[18:19] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip:  Same problem
[18:19] <bin_bash> I can't get past the splash screen
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: then your system sounds faulty. If you can't run a memtest you have bigger issues
[18:20] <brightspark> bin_bash: in explanation of doobien's comment
[18:21] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: The problem is that it doesn't recognize the disc drive. So I can't do /anything/ I already have 10.04 installed but can't do anything with 10.10 or 11.04
[18:21] <doobien> bin_bash, have you tried dist-upgrade?
[18:22] <bin_bash> doobien: I can't use 10.04 because I have no drivers. Can't use the internet.
[18:23] <ayghad> hi every body can someone help me to integrate Cccam plugin on kaffeine in ubuntu  i'm a new user
[18:23] <bin_bash> I've also had the exact same problem with ArchBang not recognizing the disc drive.
[18:24] <cyoz> the top panel isn't reacting.. what now?
[18:24] <cyoz> first freeze already :o
[18:24] <simo_> salut
[18:25] <alabd> Good day all , what is main package of mysql in linux ?
[18:25] <syrius> good stuff
[18:25] <syrius> http://www.linuxlog.org/?p=104
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> !info mysql
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> !find mysql
[18:26] <oCean> !info mysql-server
[18:26] <van7hu_> hello, if I do ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5, is there a way my machine ip change to 192.168.1.3?
[18:26] <Diverdude> how do i search fold and all subfolders for filenames containing "ers" and ignore the case?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> van7hu_:  rerun the ifconfog command
[18:27] <rumpe1> Diverdude, sudo find / -type f -iname '*ers*'
[18:27] <ohsix> Diverdude: find . -iname '*ers*', or find | grep -i
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> find command is handy. :)
[18:27] <mkanyicy> alabd, mysql-server-5.1
[18:27] <ohsix> it's shorter than ls -alR
[18:27] <van7hu_> Dr_Willis: i.e : give the result to you?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> van7hu_:  Huh?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> van7hu_:  you use ifconfig command to set your settings as needed.. i dont understand your actual problem.
[18:28] <Diverdude> thanks both
[18:28] <asddssdsd> hi
[18:28] <mkanyicy> hi asddssdsd
[18:28] <asddssdsd> i need help
[18:28] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, just ask if anyone knows, you will be helped
[18:29] <bin_bash> Anyone know why the forums are down?
[18:29] <asddssdsd> somebody here
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> !ask | asddssdsd
[18:29] <van7hu_> Dr_Willis: I use "ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.5 ..."
[18:29] <asddssdsd> ok
[18:29] <asddssdsd> well
[18:29] <asddssdsd> i dont know which ubuntu version use
[18:29] <bin_bash> What do you mean
[18:29] <van7hu_> Dr_Willis: but when I do "ifconfig -a", I get eth1 with inet addr 192.168.1.3, is this normal?
[18:30] <asddssdsd> this is my question
[18:30] <bin_bash> You want to know which ubuntu version to use?
[18:30] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, which version are you using now?
[18:30] <asddssdsd> none
[18:30] <bin_bash> Which OS are you currently using
[18:30] <asddssdsd> i dont know if ubuntu 10.04, 11.04 or 10.10
[18:30] <asddssdsd> i ordered one KDE cd one gnome cd of 10.10
[18:31] <bin_bash> Is this your first Linux distribution?
[18:31] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, 11.04 is not yet released
[18:31] <asddssdsd> yes thats true
[18:31] <bin_bash> KDE and Gnome are just different environments
[18:31] <asddssdsd> so what do you recommend me
[18:32] <tjiggi_fo> asddssdsd, get 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Gnome
[18:32] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, currently you can use either 10.04 or 10.10, i recommend you to use gnome
[18:32] <bin_bash> Well I would try gnome
[18:32] <asddssdsd> okay gnome i like
[18:32] <asddssdsd> there i decided me
[18:32] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, anything else?
[18:32] <asddssdsd> but i cant decide if 10.04 10.10 or 11.04 ... normally i would take 10.04, or 11.04
[18:32] <bin_bash> why 1.04?
[18:32] <bin_bash> 11.04*
[18:33] <bin_bash> Use 10.04 or 10.10
[18:33] <asddssdsd> it comes out in 1 week
[18:33] <bin_bash> 10.04 is long-term support
[18:33] <asddssdsd> yes
[18:33] <asddssdsd> mh
[18:33] <bin_bash> I'd start with 10.04 gnome or 10.10 gnome
[18:33] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, 11.04 is not yet released. install 10.10 for now so that you can upgrade to 11.04 easily
[18:33] <MacByte> WHY AM I SOOO ADDICTED TO UBUNTU?
[18:33] <asddssdsd> yes but the thing is
[18:33] <oCean> MacByte: calm down please
[18:33] <asddssdsd> i dont want to upgrade in a month if i install now
[18:33] <rzx237> my 100MB free space on / lost when I downloaded 700MB file from other computer using wget, what happen to my free space?
[18:33] <MacByte> sorry oCean
[18:34] <asddssdsd> at least i want use THe version installed by me for about two months
[18:34] <syrius> because ubuntu uses cocaine in its manufacture MacByte
[18:34] <bin_bash> asddssdsd: you'll have to anyway if you use 11.04, as it hasn't been released yet
[18:34] <oCean> MacByte: thanks. If you want to chit-chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic, this is support only
[18:34] <MacByte> sorry
[18:34] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, 10.10
[18:34] <asddssdsd> bin_bash okay
[18:34] <asddssdsd> and when do you recommend to upgrade to 11.04 ??
[18:34] <asddssdsd> two mothns after release ?
[18:34] <asddssdsd> or short before ending 10.10 support
[18:35] <bin_bash> 10.04 is still being supported and it's a year old. That's why it's called "LTS version because the support is long-term"
[18:35] <asddssdsd> bin_bash i know it
[18:35] <asddssdsd> it
[18:35] <bin_bash> So even if you use 10.04, it will still be supported. :)
[18:35] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, you can upgrade to 11.04 AFTER it has been released and WHEN you are comfortable to do so
[18:35] <asddssdsd> okay
[18:35] <asddssdsd> i know
[18:36] <asddssdsd> but I THINK (its my openion)
[18:36] <mkanyicy> bin_bash, but going from 10.04 to 11.04 will be a pain
[18:36] <bin_bash> True
[18:36] <bin_bash> going from 10.10 to 11.04 will probably be easier
[18:36] <asddssdsd> stop please
[18:36] <asddssdsd> i have a QUestion
[18:36] <asddssdsd> but I THINK (its my openion)
[18:37] <asddssdsd> its best to wait at least one month
[18:37] <asddssdsd> before upgrade to neww
[18:37] <asddssdsd> because i think although it is released, there are many errors and mistakes in a FINAL version
[18:38] <asddssdsd> so if i wait one month after release they were fixed
[18:38] <rumpe1> asddssdsd, many of them... not all..
[18:38] <asddssdsd> yes
[18:38] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, many people say that, so i guess that might work for you too, myself i like to be on the bleeding edge
[18:38] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  that's probably a good idea. So if you start with 10.10 now, then you'll be able to use it for a few months and then upgrade to 11.04 if you'd like.
[18:38] <asddssdsd> ok thanks
[18:39] <bin_bash> I'd be happy to be able to use ANY release! I have 10.04 installed but I can't use it, and I can't install 11.04!
[18:39] <bin_bash> or 10.10!
[18:39] <asddssdsd> why
[18:39] <mkanyicy> asddssdsd, so your solution is: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - GNOME version
[18:39] <asddssdsd> cant you+
[18:39] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  My CD drive isn't recognized
[18:39] <asddssdsd> mkanyicy: thank you. but what is a bleeding edge ?
[18:39] <asddssdsd> @bin_bash: usb drivee ?
[18:39] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  That means at the very edge of development
[18:40] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  Don't have a big enough one
[18:40] <asddssdsd> ok
[18:40] <DrArkaneX> what cd drive you have?
[18:40] <asddssdsd> me ?
[18:40] <asddssdsd> cd
[18:40] <DrArkaneX> no, bin_bash
[18:40] <asddssdsd> ok
[18:40] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  MATSHITA DVD-R   UJ-898
[18:40] <DrArkaneX> sata, ide or usb?
[18:40] <bin_bash> sata
[18:41] <bin_bash> i think
[18:41] <bin_bash> nope
[18:41] <bin_bash> ATAPI
[18:41] <asddssdsd> bin_bash: bleeding safe = very finished ?
[18:42] <asddssdsd> uehm i meant bleeding edge = very finished ?
[18:42] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  no
[18:42] <asddssdsd> my english is bad so cant understand this
[18:42] <asddssdsd> oh
[18:42] <DrArkaneX> so it's a slot loader, replacement for a macbook pro correct?
[18:42] <home> HEY GUYS
[18:42] <home> SNORT EXPERTS
[18:42] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  yeah
[18:42] <FloodBot2> home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <home> I need help with SNORT, my internet is so slow..
[18:43] <DrArkaneX> bin_bash: you try puppy linux just to see if it finds it on the live cd?
[18:43] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  what's puppy linux?
[18:43] <asddssdsd> a distribution
[18:43] <DrArkaneX> just a small versionof linux...
[18:43] <DrArkaneX> what asd said
[18:43] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  I tried ArchBang and it didn't work
[18:44] <DrArkaneX> just a tiny one...
[18:44] <bin_bash> I can try puppy
[18:44] <asddssdsd> bin_bash how big is your usb drive disk ??
[18:44] <bin_bash> asddssdsd:  512MBs
[18:44] <DrArkaneX> puppy is like in my Tech CD case... i carry it EVERYWHERE
[18:44] <asddssdsd> ok
[18:44] <bin_bash> lol DrArkaneX
[18:44] <DrArkaneX> it has saved my arse more than once.. :D
[18:44] <bin_bash> :D
[18:44] <bin_bash> ok downloadan
[18:45] <DrArkaneX> if that doesn't work, you should install Gentoo... lol
[18:45] <DrArkaneX> or figure out what module you need to get it to work with Ubuntu
[18:45] <home> ARggh
[18:45] <home> I think my computer is infected, guys I am running snort and its detecting ddos attacks >.<
[18:46] <DrArkaneX> home: are you running windows anywhere on yer network?
[18:46] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  oh god... gentoo....
[18:47] <home> DrArkaneX, YES
[18:47] <plainas> hey all... does sound works on windowsxp on virtualbox?
[18:47] <DrArkaneX> home: hrmmm..  are you running a firewall?
[18:47] <LarsTorben> plainas: yes
[18:47] <LarsTorben> normally
[18:47] <eFfeM> hi, I want to use "service" to restart networking (service networking restart), but I get "networking stop/waiting" google comes with a number of pages that suggest interference with NetworkManager, I already uninstalled that one but that does not help. btw /etc/init.d/networking start does work (but I'd rather use service as this is used on several places in a script I got
[18:47] <home> DrArkaneX: Yes.. by default..
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> being attacked by a ddos is not a sign of an infcetion.. taking part in a ddos.. can be :)
[18:47] <eFfeM> anyone  a hint ?
[18:47] <atlef> plainas: yes it should
[18:47] <DrArkaneX> home: reason i say that is I run an Untangle box as my firewall and it stops that crap
[18:48] <DrArkaneX> my firewall logs always show some sort of DDOS attempts... essentially littered with it..
[18:48] <home> Why?
[18:48] <DrArkaneX> i'm not talking about Windows Firewall, because it's junk
[18:48] <home> It has been slowing down my internet so much
[18:49] <AirstrikeIvanov> home: the best thing to stop a DDoS -right now- is to unplug your internet for 10-15 minutes and let the hacker think you've been taken down
[18:49] <DrArkaneX> get you an Untangle Firewall up so whatever box is loading your bandwidth down will get STFU'd by the Untangle box
[18:49] <AirstrikeIvanov> home: and while you're offline call your ISP and tell them you're being DDoSed, as well as getting the firewall he recommends
[18:49] <DrArkaneX> get a bandwidth monitor up, and turn off machines to see who;s eating up all your bandwidth
[18:49] <home> Yeah
[18:49] <home> I can check that from my router page
[18:50] <home> The problem is
[18:50] <DrArkaneX> knowing is half the battle
[18:50] <home> I am using snort.. and it says this computer is attacking others..
[18:50] <DrArkaneX> which computer, what OS is it running?
[18:50] <AirstrikeIvanov> then you need to unplug NOW
[18:50] <zulax> on 10.10 looks like my right click on mouse doesnt work
[18:50] <AirstrikeIvanov> and call your ISP and say you've been botted
[18:51] <home> Thanks guys
[18:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> they will cycle your IP to change it, and you can install a firewall in the meantime
[18:51] <home> on ubuntu?
[18:51] <home> I thought by default.. ah nvm
[18:51] <UkeofJersey> HELP!  I mounted my windows XP machine from Ubuntu 10.10 and accidentally deleted a folder full of m4v that took me forever to encode for the iphone, and I don't even know which machine I should be looking at to try to recover the files.  Thoughts?
[18:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah the default firewall isnt the best honestly
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  use some undelete tools on the windows machine
[18:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> UkeofJersey: Is the machine that the files were on Windows or Ubuntu? If it's Windows, there are plenty of undelete tools
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  ask in #windows about them
[18:52] <DrArkaneX> have you got a spare computer with 2 NICs in it?  if so, download Untangle, install it on the spare computer and you will have a super firewall protecting you and everyone else.. :D
[18:52] <UkeofJersey> already tried an undelete on the win machine and they don't show
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  you may be out of luck then.
[18:52] <DrArkaneX> ukeofJersey: sounds like they are gone man...
[18:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah untangle is a very nice firewall but its a shame you gotta have another machine for it to work fully
[18:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> i set up some 10 year old bucket just to run untangle myself a few weeks ago
[18:53] <DrArkaneX> Airstrikeivanov: i don't mind having another machine..  I don't run any kind of anti virus on my kids computers and just better overall...  i can watch them more closely... :D
[18:53] <atlef> UkeofJersey: you could try testdisk/photorec as well
[18:53] <UkeofJersey> so if I delete something from my XP machine from Ubuntu it is simply gone with 1 confirmation?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  windows deleted it..  ubuntu just told windoes to delete it..
[18:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> DrArkaneX: yeah its a very nice thing to have, especially when you run Source-based game servers, where people will t ry to DDoS you just so theres less competition, or because they dont like being banned, etc
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  same as if you deleted it from the windows boxc
[18:54] <brightspark> UkeofJersey: yep.
[18:54] <DrArkaneX> you might be able to run some kind of file recovery on the windows box to get it back, good luck with it!
[18:55] <DrArkaneX> just google file recovery windows
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> of coruse locally. it would have been moved to the trash :)
[18:55] <UkeofJersey> so windows actually did the work, ubuntu just told XP to handle it, correct? The plan of attack for recovery is to go to the XP machine?
[18:55] <DrArkaneX> Uke: yes
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> UkeofJersey:  got it.. nothimng to do with ubuntu really
[18:55] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah you do have to run your undelete tools on the XP machine
[18:56] <DrArkaneX> don't write anything to the windows box or your chances become slimmer of getting it back
[18:56] <UkeofJersey> well, thank you kind people for the info!  It's not good news, but my dumbass doesn't learn anything is hot unless I touch the stove myself
[18:56] <anonissimus> Is there a way to change kmix settings from console?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Time to lern the value of backups
[18:56] <DrArkaneX> Uke: how we all learn...  we've probably burned our hands a looong time ago...
[18:56] <AirstrikeIvanov> ah yes, the whole reason i even HAVE an ubuntu server in the first place lol
[18:56] <UkeofJersey> that's what i was in the process of, Dr!
[18:57] <AirstrikeIvanov> to back up my windows machine
[18:57] <UkeofJersey> big hands + tiny netbook made me delete it when I was trying to back it up to the ubuntu piece!
[18:57] <MaxMetal89> good evening people
[18:58] <UkeofJersey> Thanks anyway, everybody!
[18:59] <MaxMetal89> anyone knows how to set up correctly the xbox 360 controller? i have problems to set up the LT and RT keys...
[18:59] <MaxMetal89> i want to use it with emulators..
[19:00] <archangelpetro> is it possible to create an ISO (to apply to a usb for live-booting/installing) from an already installed system?
[19:00] <pk__> my computer had dual booting ubuntu and windows  ...there was a power cut and now after bios options it shows a black screen with blinking cursor :(
[19:00] <pk__> what to do in order to repair?
[19:00] <archangelpetro> and if so, is there a link explaining how to do it?
[19:00] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  I'm going to try puppy now.
[19:00] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: youre trying to burn an ISO image to a disk from inside ubuntu?
[19:01] <archangelpetro> AirstrikeIvanov: well, i want to install my current system onto another hard drive.. so i want to take my current OS (as it's built with all installed packages etc etc) and bundle it up so i can make a liveUSB from it?
[19:01] <pk__> please help me
[19:01] <MaxMetal89> archangelpetro you can use remastersys
[19:02] <MaxMetal89> i think
[19:02] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: yeah i was about to mention remastersys, let me look into it to make sure
[19:02] <archangelpetro> ok, thanks
[19:02] <MaxMetal89> anyone about the xbox360 controller?
[19:02] <pneftali> hi guys
[19:03] <AirstrikeIvanov> maxmetal89: im not sure myself, ive only used PS3 controllers, and only on Windows - i have too many Linux-unfriendly games to use ubuntu on a personal level lol
[19:04] <Guest29574> vi presento i nostri
[19:04] <pneftali> whats the cp option for hidden files ? i want to copy the hidden files as well to another folder
[19:04] <MaxMetal89> airstrikeivanof: the joystick works very good but the LT and RT keys are seen as axes and not button
[19:04] <LarsTorben> hi
[19:05] <MaxMetal89> i want to use it with pcsx
[19:05] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpeter: you should be able to use remastersys to make an ISO of your current system configuration, now that ive seen a few examples of it
[19:05] <archangelpetro> AirstrikeIvanov: MaxMetal89 , here is no remastersys package?
[19:06] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: did you try apt-get install remastersys?
[19:06] <archangelpetro> tes
[19:06] <archangelpetro> yes
[19:07] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  I got the same error I got with ArchBang: /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[19:07] <archangelpetro> AirstrikeIvanov: MaxMetal89 will remaster sys backup just my 'linux partition'  (i' intend to re-install onto a smaller hard drive..)
[19:07] <Jordan_U> pneftali: cp itself doesn't treat hidden files (those beginning with a '.') specially. What problem are you having? What command isn't doing what you want?
[19:07] <junaidnaseer> does anyone know where banshee stores the radio list ?
[19:08] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: it appears remastersys is installed by default - it says on the remaster homepage to simply try clicking on Remastersys Backup in the System menu on your GUI, or to try 'sudo remastersys backup' to back up your system, or 'sudo su' followed by 'remastersys dist' for a distributable disk
[19:08] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: and i believe it will only back up your linux installation, yes, ive never used remastersys so im going off of what i see on their homepage and documentation
[19:09] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: pasted from home page:    You can log into the livecd/dvd with any valid user that was on the system on the hard drive but it is recommended to log into the first one created during the initial installation as that is the user that can sudo.
[19:09] <Vinky> where is coredumps put in ubuntu, apport catches the problem but I cant find the coredump
[19:09] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: just a heads up, apparently it causes problems if you use other users
[19:09] <bin_bash> DrArkaneX:  you still here?
[19:09] <pneftali> Jordan_U, all is fine now. thanks tho :)
[19:09] <archangelpetro> AirstrikeIvanov: i dont need to use other users.. but i dont seem to have 'remastersys' on my system at all
[19:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: here's the page for Remastersys ubuntu information: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html
[19:11] <MaxMetal89> anyone about xbox 360 trigger button?
[19:11] <pneftali> hm. is it possible to open a file in gedit through terminal ?
[19:12] <AirstrikeIvanov> pneftali: yes, you can "gedit <filename>" or "gksu gedit <filename>" for root gedit
[19:12] <bin_bash> pneftali:  you can use vi
[19:12] <AirstrikeIvanov> ah yeah i forget about vi and nano too
[19:13] <pneftali> ah thanks AirstrikeIvanov  :) bin_bash , i am more comfortable coding with gedit :)
[19:14] <archangelpetro> weird AirstrikeIvanov i just dont have it on my system.
[19:14] <archangelpetro> got the repo though AirstrikeIvanov
[19:15] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: once you add the repo, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install remastersys i believe
[19:15] <gabe_> hello community :)
[19:17] <lolmatic> hi
[19:18] <lolmatic> whats a nice program to record the whole screen including copiz?
[19:18] <lolmatic> compiz
[19:19] <multipass> hi, ive been using ubuntu for a few weeks no problem, now when i boot up, right after grub and select ubuntu theres the sytstem hangs at a blinking "_" on the top left screen, safe mode freezes too
[19:20] <keithclark> atomb
[19:20] <MaxMetal89> anyone know how to get work trigger buttons in xbox 360 controller?
[19:20] <archangelpetro> AirstrikeIvanov: do you know if it supports full-disk or homedrive encryption?
[19:23] <CodeZombie> does anyone here have ubuntu running on an intel mac mini 2010? I've got issues coming out the <insert creative noun here>. To name a few, unable to get EFI as default grub on install, no framebuffer support, etc...
[19:24] <Jordan_U> CodeZombie: The easiest thing to do is use Apple's BIOS implementation rather than grub-efi.
[19:25] <DrArkaneX> CodeZombie: http://mac.linux.be/content/installation-guide-ubuntu-1010-macmini-41
[19:25] <ajnewbold> I'm looking to buy a new laptop and want to make sure I get something that's most compatible with ubuntu -- any resources that provide recommendations?
[19:25] <gabe_> I'd like to ask for help please. I've installed 10.04 on a laptop and it doesn't recognize the wlan0 interface. Instead, I see two weird ones listed under the network tools GUI: unknown rida0 and unknown wifi0
[19:25] <gabe_> I tried adding them in /etc/network/interfaces but that didn't work :(
[19:25] <CodeZombie> Jordan_U the bios implementation has just as many issues
[19:26] <CodeZombie> DrArkaneX, thanks didn't see this link before
[19:26] <Jordan_U> CodeZombie: Are you trying to boot from USB? What issues are you encountering?
[19:26] <DrArkaneX> gabe_: what does lspci tell you?
[19:26] <gabe_> let me see
[19:27] <AirstrikeIvanov> archangelpetro: again, im not even ON ubuntu at the moment, and ive never used remastersys so i cant tell you for sure, i would assume it does support it if your system itself supports it
[19:27] <DrArkaneX> if you want, give me a pastebin of it
[19:27] <CodeZombie> Jordan_U straight from disk, single install ( no multi boot ). Sometimes I get just a solid black screen, never boots, sometimes I get in, but no framebuffer, ethernet fails to work ( evrything says to use tg3 driver, but this hasn't worked yet )
[19:27] <CodeZombie> issues are basically the same w/ efi
[19:28] <decoder> i just hit that intel core i3/i5 vga output screwed bug on ubuntu lts
[19:28] <decoder> it's somewhat horrible that this bug is still not fixed
[19:28] <gabe_> DrArkaneX: it looks like it has a Cisco proprietary driver? (Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b)
[19:28] <decoder> it renders almost all modern builtin gpus unusable with VGA
[19:29] <AirstrikeIvanov> gabe_; be glad you're not on REALTEK...my laptop when i used to use ubuntu regularly had a realtek card and they HATE linux, pretty much
[19:29] <MaxMetal89> anyone know how to get work trigger buttons in xbox 360 controller? please
[19:30] <gabe_> I'm sorry to hear that AirstrikeIvanov
[19:30] <gabe_> but I wonder if this will work :)
[19:30] <CodeZombie> meh, using boot camp isn't really an option. I guess I'll just go back to using vmware for the time being
[19:31] <CodeZombie> thanks again for the link DrArkaneX
[19:31] <van7hu> is there a channel for network on #freenode?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> CodeZombie: Solid black screen with blinking cursor? Even without "quiet splash" kernel parameters?
[19:31] <CodeZombie> Jordan_U, yeah
[19:32] <multipass> hi, ive been using ubuntu for a few weeks no problem, now when i boot up, right after grub and select ubuntu the system hangs at a blinking "_" on the top left screen, safe mode freezes too, any ideas?
[19:32] <Jordan_U> CodeZombie: Did you install grub to the mbr? Did you create a BIOS boot partition?
[19:32] <CodeZombie> I didn't bother trying to debug it, though I probably shoud have
[19:32] <CodeZombie> Jordan_U, yes I did, like I said it would boot sometimes
[19:33] <jamesd_> anyone know of a ready made script or program that convert forward dns zones to a reverse zone?
[19:33] <Jordan_U> van7hu: #freenode is the channel for support relating to the freenode network...
[19:34] <van7hu> kaka, freenode
[19:34] <van7hu> server
[19:34] <gabe_> DrArkaneX: are you able to help me?
[19:34] <van7hu> #ubuntu is not too crowed at these day
[19:34] <Jordan_U> CodeZombie: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[19:35] <rivelr> Ugh was that floodbot necessary ?
[19:37] <QuiSE> Need help installing: libnl2 and libnl2-dev
[19:38] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install libnl2-dev
[19:38] <rzx237> my 100MB free space on / lost when I downloaded 700MB file from other computer using wget, what happen to my free space?
[19:38] <gabe_> anyone willing and able to help me get wireless connection please? 10.04 is not recognizing my wlan0 interface :(
[19:38] <HeadScratch> Hi everyone. Is it advisable to put the root partition on LVM?
[19:38] <bluehawk1> Good morning
[19:38] <QuiSE> Seveas, apt-get cant find it
[19:38] <aarcane> halp, how to add xtables-addons to 10.10 ?
[19:38] <QuiSE> do I have to open some sorces?
[19:39] <aarcane> m-a a-i xtables-addons has an error /usr/src/modules/xtables-addons/compat_xtables.c:327: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
[19:39] <erUSUL> gabe_: wlan0 does not appear in iwconfig output?
[19:39] <Seveas> QuiSE, it's in universe, so you'll have to enable that
[19:39] <Dwade09> can someone help me with this new error? http://pastebin.com/7zMLZygL i am getting inside wine please
[19:40] <QuiSE> Seveas, how do I enable it
[19:40] <gabe_> erUSUL: no, there are two weird ones showing up: irda0 and wifi0
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: what are you doing to generate that error?
[19:40] <gabe_> lspci says the network controller is AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Airnonet Wireless 802.11b
[19:40] <erUSUL> gabe_: irda is a infrred device.... wifi0? « sudo iwlist wifi0 scan » works ?
[19:41] <Seveas> QuiSE, system->administration->software sources
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> gabe_: if you run:  rfkill list    are any blocked?
[19:41] <flexd> Hi, has anyone had problems with logitech mouses being all 'jumpy'?
[19:41] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  i am trying to start a game and it gives me those errors in terminal readout from doing wine then game.exe the game flashes its logo then it flashes one part of the games name then goes to  ablack screen.
[19:41] <flexd> If i move it across the screen in a smooth motion it will jump around a lot. It's really hard to 'precision-click' things like links, resizing windows and so on
[19:41] <flexd> Starting to get really annoying, i have no clue why it's like this and google offers little help
[19:41] <QuiSE> Seveas, I have communly maintained Open Source software (universe) already
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: which game? Did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[19:42] <Seveas> QuiSE, then it should be there. Can you pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:42] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  its star trek bridge commander and i know it works i used to run it before on tis exact same laptop
[19:42] <gabe_> iwlist wifi0 scan works... I get a long output with Cell information
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: under ubuntu?
[19:42] <Dwade09> yes ActionParsnip
[19:42] <gabe_> ActionParsnig: no output comes after rfkill list
[19:43] <erUSUL> gabe_: so the wifi appears to be working...
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: with the same version of wine/
[19:43] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  no,
[19:43] <gabe_> erUSUL: yes, I suppose so :)
[19:43] <erUSUL> gabe_: do you see your AP/router in the scan output?
[19:43] <QuiSE> Seveas, all univers have a # infront of them. Which do i remove?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: that may be the kicker then
[19:43] <Seveas> QuiSE, pastebin the file first please
[19:43] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  how do i tell what wine i have and do i update or roll back?
[19:44] <gabe_> well, I see my neighbor's only but that's because mine has SSID broadcast turned off
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: wine --version
[19:44] <gabe_> however I manually entered the parameters and it never connects :(
[19:44] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip, wine-1.2.2
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> gabe_: try without it hidden
[19:44] <gabe_> ok lets see
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: did you use that wine version before?
[19:45] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  i do not remember this was a year ago.
[19:45] <ruan> if i try to save an image from firefox, it fails to copy, it says "The specified location is not supported". help?
[19:45] <ruan> it used to work
[19:45] <BluesKaj-den> Howdy gents , running gnome desktop on 10.10, but I have the folders from my home partition plastered on the desktop , however they aren't normal links/shortcuts.Deleting from the desktop also deletes from my /home/user ...where do I find the settings to remove the folders form the desktop without deleting from /home/user/ ?
[19:46] <ruan> also happens with chromium
[19:46] <erUSUL> BluesKaj-den: check ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs config file.... maybe your DESKTOP folder is now your home folder?
[19:46] <ruan> if i save it with cacheviewer it works
[19:47] <BluesKaj-den> erUSUL, yeah , it appears that it might be
[19:48] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  any idea?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: try adding the wine ppa for a different version, also ask in #winehq
[19:49] <Dwade09> i did ask in winehq no answer, and how i change the ppa ?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: search for: wine ppa
[19:50] <BluesKaj-den> erUSUL, ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs  file is empty
[19:50] <erUSUL> what version of ubuntu?
[19:51] <BluesKaj-den> 10.10
[19:51] <Dwade09> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:51] <erUSUL> BluesKaj-den: maybe that's the problem ?
[19:51] <Snappleseed> Hey guys, haven't been on here in a while.
[19:51] <gabe_> a window pops up sayint "Authentication required by wireless network" but it won't let me select anything, all the buttons are grayed out except the cancel one . Besides I already entered the password and encryption settings when I created the wireless connection
[19:52] <Snappleseed> And I was wondering if I could get a bit of help, after looking through a bunch of guides.
[19:52] <Snappleseed> I want to put ubuntu on an old-ish laptop of mine.
[19:52] <erUSUL> BluesKaj-den: run « xdg-user-dirs-update »
[19:53] <Snappleseed> Spects 71.3 GB HD, 1.6 Ghz Intel Celeron, 0.99 MB ram
[19:56] <Snappleseed> I want to wipe an old-ish laptop of mine, and put ubuntu on it.
[19:56] <Snappleseed> What's the first step I should take to get me on my way?
[19:56] <Seveas> download ubuntu and burn it to cd
[19:56] <Seveas> boot from cd
[19:56] <Seveas> install ubuntu
[19:56] <Seveas> profit
[19:57] <erUSUL> or maybe lubuntu/xubuntu
[19:57] <erUSUL> also for an old machine i would opt for the LTS 10.04 release
[19:57] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=59604#59604
[19:57] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  i made a post on winehq forum.
[19:58] <Snappleseed> erUSUL: it's not THAT old, 71.3 GB HD, 1.6 Ghz Intel Celeron, 0.99 MB ram
[19:58] <Dwade09> thank you ActionParsnip  for all your help
[19:58] <Snappleseed> Seveas: a while ago in anticipation for installing linux which I never did on an older computer (not this one), I downloaded ubuntu
[19:58] <erUSUL> Snappleseed: i guess you mean 0.99 *GiB*
[19:59] <Snappleseed> Snappleseed: yeah sorry that's what I wrote down on the paper
[19:59] <junaidnaseer> sorry to budge in ... but is there any way to import radio streaming urls into banshee, all at once ... instead of copy/pasting each ... :(
[19:59] <Snappleseed> all I have are writeable DVDs, no cds
[19:59] <Snappleseed> but the drive I'm trying to install to accepts DVDs
[19:59] <Snappleseed> will this be a problem?\
[20:00] <erUSUL> Snappleseed: a dvd will work too ( a waste of space though )
[20:00] <atlef> Snappleseed: no
[20:00] <BluesKaj-den> erUSUL,  xdg-kaj-dirs-update: command not found
[20:00] <erUSUL> Snappleseed: or use a usb drive?
[20:00] <Snappleseed> okay well it's 4.7 GB DVD, but it's RW, so it won't be THAT much of a waste
[20:01] <Snappleseed> the ubuntu file I downloaded has been unzipped and made into a folder
[20:01] <erUSUL> BluesKaj-den: huh? is  « xdg-user-dirs-update »
[20:01] <Snappleseed> is that a problem either?>
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove wine; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install wine1.3
[20:01] <erUSUL> Snappleseed: you have to burn the iso. not  folder
[20:01] <atlef> Snappleseed: you are not supposed to extract the iso file
[20:01] <erUSUL> !burning | Snappleseed
[20:01] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip, wowza wont that ruin some stuff?
[20:01] <RealOpty> whats the dpkg command to redo my grub config?
[20:01] <hinogi> What would be a better update when 11.04 is out? fresh install or just dist-upgrade?
[20:01] <erUSUL> RealOpty: there is none
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Snappleseed: if you are installing Ubuntu, you don't extract the image
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> RealOpty: sudo update-grub
[20:02] <RealOpty> ActionParsnip, ty :)
[20:02] <erUSUL> RealOpty: are you talking about « sudo update-grub » ?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> hinogi: I'd say a clean install would give a cleaner oS
[20:03] <anna_> fuck off stronzi
[20:03] <erUSUL> !language | anna_
[20:04] <anna_> ihr seid wohl alle arschlocher
[20:04] <itilious> what is pulseaudio, and do i really need it for anythign specific?
[20:04] <Snappleseed> ActionParsnip, erUSUL, atlef, I can make the folder back into an ISO if it's a problem, but the folder looks like this: http://imgur.com/r7gPA
[20:04] <hinogi> well there will be an installation option to install over an old ubuntu system I have seen hope that works good :P
[20:04] <itilious> is it just a "premium" sound processor to asla?
[20:04] <erUSUL> itilious: is the thing that makes audio work
[20:04] <itilious> erUSUL, i removed it tho and i still have audio...
[20:04] <anna_> someone shares films?
[20:05] <guntbert> anna_: you are in the wrong channel, please stop
[20:05] <itilious> erUSUL, i had to remove it to get Starcraft 2 Wine to work,, what am i missing out on specifically? cuz its not the ONLY audio engine in ubuntu i'm guessing
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Snappleseed: download the file and use the usb tool to make a bootable usb, or burn it to a DVD. Just because your Windows setup can handle ISO files like archives DOESN't mean you extract it. The icon means nothing. If you read the install notes you would know that
[20:05] <itilious> better question,, how is pulseaudio different from ASLA?
[20:05] <erUSUL> itilious: you can use alsa directly
[20:05] <Snappleseed> it was a while ago I tried this before
[20:05] <Snappleseed> sorry
[20:05] <r_a_f> anna_: no1 loves U
[20:06] <guntbert> r_a_f: stop
[20:06] <atlef> Snappleseed: redownload the file
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Snappleseed: also md5 test the image so you know its good. a bad image will cause you issues
[20:06] <itilious> erUSUL, define directly?
[20:07] <purpzey> Can someone give some advice in re: Upgrading -- I'm currently running Karmic on an older laptop (not too old) but it's out of harddrive space, and a little sluggish, so I'd like to do a "clean upgrade" -- Is the beta a good choice or should I wait until it's released completely?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | anna_
[20:07] <itilious> erUSUL, flash in browser sound works, system sounds work,, what specifically did pulseuadio do?
[20:07] <erUSUL> itilious: without going thrugh pulseaudio... PA is an audio server. it can share the soundcare between apps. manage volume of apps etc
[20:07] <Mrokii> hello. Does anybody here use an Epson Perfection V33 or V330 Scanner? Or does somebody know if the Scan-to-PDF-function works on Ubuntu?
[20:07] <itilious> is pulseaudio known to have issues with wine?
[20:07] <purpzey> Mrokii: I don't know about that particular model, but there is definitely a Scan-to-PDF
[20:07] <cubix> Greetings!
[20:08] <itilious> my wine apps have almost ZERO latency now that i removed pulseaudio
[20:08] <rhizmoe> itilious: evidence suggests... :)
[20:08] <erUSUL> itilious: i've used both together with no problems...
[20:08] <Mrokii> purpzey: What do you mean? In some software?
[20:08] <cubix> Greetings!
[20:08] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.com/1NyhYjSD
[20:08] <guntbert> cubix: hi,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:08] <itilious> i have onboard sound tho, i'm sure pulseaudio would be superiour if i had my audio or something similar:)
[20:09] <purpzey> Mrokii: What I mean is that, I have a scanner, and that I downloaded software from "Add remove" or from a repo...that had scan-to-pdf and I believe it was not hardware dependent...do not quote me here
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: is that with 1.3?
[20:09] <itilious> k, well i finally got starcraft 2 to work on my favorite OS,, thanks erUSUL for the tips :)
[20:09] <Dwade09> yes ActionParsnip
[20:09] <Snappleseed> the ISO file I have is called ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: what is the app you are running again?
[20:09] <Mrokii> purpzey: Was that VueScan?
[20:09] <RealOpty> in /etc/fstab
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Snappleseed: karmic support ends in 9 days dude. I wouldn't waste your time and install Lucid
[20:09] <RealOpty> ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1 <- whats the one for?
[20:10] <rhizmoe> hmm, apt-get is fine, but the software center seems to be borked and won't install or uninstall.
[20:10] <purpzey> Mrokii: I think it was actually called ScantoPDf or something like that...a small amount of googling will find it
[20:10] <rhizmoe> (for me)
[20:10] <erUSUL> RealOpty: man fstab has all the details :)
[20:10] <Snappleseed> ActionParsnip, atlef, the ISO file I have is called ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386 I found the original ISO
[20:10] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  star trek bridge commander
[20:10] <RealOpty> erUSUL, or i could just go on IRC and ask 1555 people for a faster answer ty
[20:10] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: I am looking to upgrade, as I assume Snappleseed was...Are you saying that getting the beta would be the proper choice?
[20:10] <Mrokii> purpzey: Okay, thank you, I will look for that.
[20:10] <erUSUL> Snappleseed: ok; check the md5sum and burn it to a disk or usb drive
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Snappleseed: Install ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10. Installing Ubuntu 9.10 makes very little sense.
[20:11] <atlef> Snappleseed: that is an old version of ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Snappleseed: fine but installing it will just need an upgrade to Lucid, you can make the process less painful by just installing Lucid
[20:11] <Snappleseed> okay
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: if you have kermic you will need to upgrade to lucid first if you want to upgrade, or you can clean install. Both are fine
[20:12] <DrArkaneX> sudo update-manager -d
[20:12] <jake____> hey, I'm trying to follow this guide on blacklisting wl, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Ubuntu.2BAC8-Debian, but this command sequence on installing it on 2.6 really confuses me, could someone please take a look at it?
[20:12] <Snappleseed> downloading Ubuntu Lucid now
[20:12] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I want to clean install, but I didn't know if the beta was "ready for endusers"...
[20:12] <Snappleseed> oh sheesh, estimated time for download 5 days
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: officially no, if you wait for release you can install the official release
[20:12] <Xylch> how can I output this to a text file: find . -type f -not -iname "*.mp3" -not -iname "*.m4a"
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4207
[20:13] <erUSUL> jake____: what is confusing? is a single apt-get command
[20:13] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Is there a release date? (sorry last question)
[20:13] <Snappleseed> my internet connection is too crap for this atm guys, mind if I get back to you when I get a better connection?
[20:13] <erUSUL> Xylch: add ">  file" to the end of the command
[20:13] <atlef> !natty | purpzey
[20:13] <Xylch> erUSUL: I did that, file was unreadable
[20:13] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  yes, it is patched.
[20:13] <purpzey> atlef: Ty.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: 28th-ish
[20:14] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Thanks...:)...Have a nice Sunday.
[20:14] <erUSUL> Xylch: define unreadable
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: read the other stuff people have posted, it may help
[20:15] <jake____> erUSUL, the this sequence,    1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
[20:15] <jake____>    2 wget http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2
[20:15] <jake____>    3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2
[20:15] <jake____>    4 cd broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0/kmod
[20:15] <jake____>    5 sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-013/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta.o
[20:15] <FloodBot2> jake____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <Xylch> "Could not open the file /home/xylch/Music/test.txt.", gedit gives me an encoding error
[20:15] <jake____> Crap! I could have sworn I recopied the pastbin link
[20:15] <erUSUL> jake____: you do not need to do that if you have internet connection
[20:16] <erUSUL> jake____: just do « sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter » in 10.04 or
[20:16] <erUSUL> !find b43
[20:16] <erUSUL> « sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer » in later versions
[20:16] <jake____> ok, so just skip that step, or substitute in something else
[20:16] <jake____> oh, ok thans
[20:17] <erUSUL> jake____: really if the machine is connected to internet is a single command
[20:17] <erUSUL> apt does averything for you
[20:17] <Xylch> erUSUL:  "Could not open the file /home/xylch/Music/test.txt.", gedit gives me an encoding error
[20:18] <erUSUL> Xylch: and with "less" or "cat" or "nano" ?
[20:18] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  nothing about what is happening with me on it
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: try a different OS name in winecfg
[20:19] <Xylch> erUSUL: Eh, it opened in Geany, odd.
[20:20] <erUSUL> Xylch: some glich in gedit ...
[20:20] <o1l_5p1ll> join #hackforums
[20:20] <o1l_5p1ll> oops sorry
[20:22] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  that seems to work with me not vista or xp but there is music but no voice sound.
[20:22] <cubix> Greetings!
[20:27] <relik> Hello i installed Ubuntu netbook version on my samsung nc10 and installed alsa drivers
[20:27] <relik> after a reboot i don't get sound anymore
[20:27] <jiltdil> is there any way to make a user to which only one time login is possible.means after login one time to that user with that password the next time it doesnot work?please tell
[20:27] <relik> how can i solve this problem?
[20:28] <dean> Hi I was wondering if someone could help me with usb support for virtualbox?
[20:29] <dean> Is anyone talking?
[20:30] <daftykins> dean: you might be better off with a virtualbox channel i'd imagine, if there is one
[20:30] <ikonia> dean: only the non-free virtualbox version has usb support
[20:30] <daftykins> plenty of guides online i'm sure, too
[20:31] <dean> I downloaded the vbox from there website ikonia?
[20:32] <alpha> In ubuntu 10.04, how do I see my vertical and horiz refresh rate for my monitor? that is, the values that they are currently given
[20:33] <Talyson> hi
[20:33] <dean> Would I be able to transfer files from linux to my vmachine without usb tho?
[20:33] <daftykins> got a network? :)
[20:34] <dean> I wouldn't know where to start daftykins first time using linux
[20:34] <daftykins> i see
[20:34] <daftykins> what are you wanting to achieve?
[20:34] <dean> Is it easy daftykins?
[20:35] <haitham> Hi guys, what's the keyboard short-cut to switch between languages in Ubuntu? for instance in Windows you press on alt+shift to do that
[20:35] <daftykins> i have no experience with the easy ways i'm afraid :)
[20:35] <dean> Well I need to be able to use windows programs sometimes and transfer things between the 2
[20:35] <daftykins> oh right, so you're dual-booting?
[20:35] <daftykins> er, ignore that haha
[20:35] <daftykins> stupid question, VM'ing it is
[20:35] <dean> No daftykins
[20:36] <daftykins> well if it's Ubuntu you've put on, you should be able to just create a folder and right click on it to share it
[20:36] <dean> lol daftykins I am using ubuntu as my main distro and have xp as vmachine
[20:36] <daftykins> then over the network you could browse to it from your Windows host
[20:36] <daftykins> oh the other way around
[20:36] <bkfitz_> anyone using ubuntu in EC2?
[20:36] <smithy> what msn can i use on ubuntu that supports video calls
[20:36] <daftykins> well, same situation still applies
[20:36] <smithy> ?
[20:36] <dean> is there a way of doing it?
[20:37] <daftykins> smithy: i think i heard amsn does cameras
[20:37] <daftykins> dean: well, share a folder...
[20:37] <daftykins> they're both networked right?
[20:37] <smithy> amsn does eathier :/
[20:37] <dean> No daftykins literally reformatted my windows 7 to put ubuntu on
[20:37] <smithy> emesene or amsn doesn't
[20:37] <haitham> Hi guys, what's the keyboard short-cut to switch between languages in Ubuntu? for instance in Windows you press on alt+shift to do that
[20:38] <Talyson> I'm having a problem with a Linux distribution somebody help me?
[20:38] <guntbert> jiltdil: have a look at http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/317972-weekend-project-one-time-passwords-for-extra-linux-security
[20:38] <gpm> i have ALC892 onboard audio which i'm trying to use with my speakers with an spdif cable. right now there's no signal from my computer (no red light in the  cable). works ok in windows and it worked once in debian too. any clues?
[20:38] <jiltdil> guntbert:thanx alot
[20:39] <guntbert> jiltdil: hope it will help :)
[20:39] <sebastiano> hi, on an ubuntu pc on which the only programs used will be firefox+skype, is there any point in getting more than 2gb of memory? will I notice any difference?
[20:39] <daftykins> haitham: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1241567
[20:39] <ender> Hi guys, I'm trying to set up a xubuntu media server here and after getting almost everything right am having some trouble with the remote. When xubuntu starts it's never listed in lsusb, if I unplug it, dmesg -c, replug it dmesg, it is detected.... any idea what might be happening?
[20:40] <daftykins> sebastiano: if the system is using DDR2, i'd get at least 4GB just because it's so cheap, but no >2GB wouldn't really be worth it
[20:40] <bkfitz_> anyone using ubuntu in EC2?
[20:40] <haitham> Thanks daftykins
[20:40] <dean> How do you set up a network between ubuntu and xp
[20:40] <daftykins> dean: but you're wanting to file share with the VM right?
[20:40] <dean> Yeah daftykins?
[20:41] <daftykins> like i said, share a folder then connect
[20:41] <Jordan_U> sebastiano: It's hard to say about firefox. A browser can do a lot of things, including playing high definition video and games and who knows what else in the (even near) future.
[20:41] <dean> It cant be that simple daftykins can it?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> sebastiano: How much RAM you'll want for Firefox depends on how you will be using it.
[20:41] <Weeze> Hi guys, I was wondering if I could bother you with some help getting XP and Ubuntu to get along?
[20:41] <daftykins> dean: well, your VM has a working internet connection and has an IP address on the same network yeah? so they can ping one another? (firewalls permitting)
[20:42] <zazen> Weeze, petrol and a match.
[20:42] <dean> Do I need to rename workgroups daftykins
[20:42] <Weeze> hah :)
[20:42] <daftykins> dean: i wouldn't expect so, you could try without
[20:43] <Jordan_U> !details | Weeze
[20:43] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip,  i tried alot of the comments for the sounds but i can not get the voices to play. but the music and soud effects but not the voices.
[20:43] <Weeze> I have XP and Ubuntu installed on separate hard drives. I installed Ubuntu second, but XP just boots itself. It thinks it's the only game in town.
[20:43] <Shubuntu> guys i'm trying to set up ppp server on ubuntu, my problem is with forwarding the route to the eth0
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub2
[20:44] <Sidewinder1> Weeze: my XP (pro) and have been living together successfully since 2007, what do you need?
[20:44] <daftykins> Weeze: you installed grub to the wrong partition, boot the livecd and install grub again
[20:44] <ender> \quit
[20:44] <dean> I must sound thick daftykins couldnt tell me how could you lol
[20:44] <daftykins> s/partition/HDD/
[20:44] <Shubuntu> i tried creating a private ip and as soon as i set that up, i lose all internet
[20:44] <Shubuntu> help please
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: not sure dude, i only use wine for spotify
[20:44] <Sidewinder1> Wow!!! You guys are fast...
[20:45] <Weeze> It'll let me install grub2 from the LiveCD? That seems like a fairly unanimous answer. :) I'll try that and report back.
[20:45] <Dwade09> thanks ActionParsnip  i am messing around with its options but its getting annoying
[20:45] <daftykins> dean: so, decide on sharing a folder from which (probably the ubuntu host preferably), so create a folder called "share" in your home folder for example to start with
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: do you define dns servers
[20:45] <Shubuntu> in /etc/ppp/pptp-options
[20:45] <daftykins> dean: i'm doing this right now too, between two networked physical PCs for fun, as i've never done it the easy way
[20:46] <daftykins> dean: so i've right clicked on the folder "share" i created in my home directory, (Places -> Home) and i'm enabling sharing
[20:46] <dean> I appreciate it daftykins
[20:46] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: the problem is with gateway. as soon as i set the gateway for the static ip to the gateway of eth0, and restart networking, i have no connection to the internet
[20:46] <daftykins> dean: no problemo ^_^ if i can get it to work, haha - so it's asking me to install a 'service'
[20:46] <_pg_> after a fresh install i get boot0 error
[20:46] <_pg_> what is that about
[20:46] <dean> its asking me to as well lol
[20:47] <sebastiano> daftykins: Jordan_U: thanks. I'll see if I can find a good deal on 4gb
[20:47] <daftykins> so i've just installed samba
[20:47] <Jordan_U> sebastiano: You're welcome.
[20:47] <dean> I'm right behind ya daftykins
[20:47] <daftykins> dean: ugh it wants me to restart my session to complete
[20:47] <cubix> Greetings!
[20:48] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip: I have a friend who's ubuntu box I helped install. How do I access his remote desktop? He'll give me his IP on the net, but how do I access his actaul box 192.168.1.3 or 4 or whatever?
[20:48] <dean> brb daftykins got to reboot
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: you willneed to port forward in your buddies router. VNC over WWW isnot really advised as there is zero security
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | Sidewinder1
[20:49] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip: vnc or ssh?
[20:49] <Symmetria> hrm, is there some kind of bug with apt-get and dpkg and high disk usage? when Im attempting to apt-get install packages, its hanging and Im getting the following in dmesg:
[20:49] <Symmetria> [27879.137152] INFO: task dpkg:20800 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: personally I advise you use ssh and fix the OS at cli, ssh is secure
[20:49] <Sidewinder1> K
[20:49] <Symmetria> I've attempted changing IO Schedulers as well from what I read on google, but no luck
[20:49] <Sidewinder1> Thanx
[20:49] <eFfeM> hi, I want to use "service" to restart networking (service networking restart), but I get "networking stop/waiting" google comes with a number of pages that suggest interference with NetworkManager, I already uninstalled that one but that does not help. btw /etc/init.d/networking start does work (but I'd rather use service as this is used on several places in a script I got
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: you can make an ssh tunnel and vnc through it
[20:50] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: any help my way?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> eFfeM: does :     sudo service networking gstatus       say?
[20:50] <_pg_> boot0 error after frsh install?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: did you define dns servers?
[20:50] <Weeze> Okay. I've got the LiveCD running, but it's telling me grub2 is already installed. How would I go about making sure grub is installed to the right partition so it doesn't auto-boot XP?
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip: He's not ready yet; I'm just trying to be prepared when he is. :-)
[20:51] <Sidewinder1> SSH it is...
[20:51] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: if you mean inside /etc/ppp/pptp-options yes
[20:51] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: they're also defined inside /etc/resolv.conf
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: no, in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[20:52] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: the problem is with gateway, as soon as i set the gateway for the private ip to the gateway of eth0, i lose internet
[20:52] <Weeze> ActionParsnip: that was exactly the guide I was looking for. Thanks!
[20:52] <_pg_> boot 0 error on frsh install. what could it mean?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: then I've no idea, sorry
[20:52] <Shubuntu> ActionParsnip: i cannot ping anywhere when that happens
[20:53] <Shubuntu> ok
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: all I did was websearch
[20:53] <Shubuntu> i've been searching for 18 hours
[20:53] <Shubuntu> i'm tired
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Shubuntu: maybe others can help
[20:53] <Shubuntu> :(
[20:53] <Weeze> ActionParsnip: I wasn't sure if there was anything I could do from within Windows to make it recognize Ubuntu, but this grub4dos looks interesting
[20:54] <_pg_> what is boot0 error all about
[20:54] <dean> Right i'm back daftykins how did you get on?
[20:54] <daftykins> dean: just copied 4GB to said share :)
[20:54] <daftykins> dean: i ticked the boxes to allow read+write and guest access, then from my win7 desktop browsed to: \\IP of ubuntu PC\share
[20:55] <daftykins> dean: it asked me for user+pass so i put "guest" as user and blank pass, then just hit enter and it worked \o/
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: windows can't do anything with grub
[20:55] <_pg_> should i try to reinstall or can i fix?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:56] <daftykins> _pg_: is that on a mac?
[20:56] <_pg_> daftykins: kind of-it used to be hackintosh till i blasted it just now
[20:56] <dean> Its not allowing me to share folder states no such file or directory
[20:56] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: no but ive used the usb stick on other machines no prob
[20:57] <Weeze> ActionParsnip: Yeah, actually this isn't as simple as I thought it'd be. I followed a guide for dual booting from separate hard drives and it still doesn't work at all. Depressing.
[20:57] <daftykins> _pg_: let the annoying child help you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPEXR1NfgwI
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: ok then did you test the ram in the current system?
[20:57] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: ? no it worked until now
[20:57] <rumak> hejcia
[20:58] <daftykins> dean: did you create a folder inside your home?
[20:58] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: it was working until i tried to install ubuntu
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: it's very simple, just read the section named:   2).Using Ubuntu 9.10 livecd or higher
[20:59] <dean> Yeah I did daftykins
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: can you boot an older kernel?
[20:59] <html_inprogress>  hi yalls
[20:59] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: no, it was osx-but i just installed ubuntu to the whole disk
[20:59] <eFfeM> ActionParsnip: sudo service networking gstatus gives the help from /etc/init.d/networking (can't paste here, running in a vm and apparently forgot to install vbox additions
[20:59] <daftykins> dean: is there a space in its' name?
[20:59] <multipass> hi, out of the blue im getting a few strange errors that are not letting ubuntu startup, "udevd-work[324]: open /dev/null failed: no such file or directory" and "port 1 disabled by hub (emi?), reenabling" anyone seen these before?
[20:59] <dean> I've rebooted my laptop and somehow usb is working now?
[21:00] <daftykins> dean: heh, neat
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: then I suggest you hold shift at boot and select to testthe ram
[21:00] <relik> hello when i installed ubuntu netbook on a samsung nc10 and installed alsa. Now i receive the following error message when i type in alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[21:00] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: really?
[21:00] <dean> Don't know how that happened daftykins ???
[21:00] <relik> all help is appreciated
[21:00] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: the ram that worked fine, on osx, is bad, now, after trying to install ubuntu?
[21:01] <bp> czy ktoś mówi po polsku?
[21:01] <html_inprogress> multipass,  what do you mean?
[21:01] <guntbert> !pl | bp
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: doesn't matter, there is an issue with the system so you need to isolate things which are GOOD so you isolate the thing which is bad
[21:01] <bp> ok dzieki
[21:01] <_pg_> the machine worked 30 mins ago so i can assume the ram is ok i think
[21:02] <dean> anyway thanks for your help daftykins take care i'm off to do some installing
[21:02] <multipass> html_inprogress: right after i select ubuntu from grub i sometimes get one of these errors and sometimes none at all, and ubuntu wont start
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: until you test you'll never know
[21:02] <daftykins> dean: no problem!
[21:02] <sebcyber> bonsoit
[21:02] <sebcyber> j'ai une question
[21:02] <html_inprogress> is there a html  templte oand /ro generartor?
[21:02] <_pg_> wasnt there memtest on ubuntu live cds before?
[21:03] <html_inprogress> _pg_ yes
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: i cant think of an install cd of linux without it
[21:03] <daftykins> _pg_: there is now. you have to hit a key when the little logo shows up at the bottom of the screen to get the menu
[21:03] <_pg_> which key, and do you mean the accessibility symbol?
[21:03] <bl4ckcomb`> what DLNA server do you guys recommend? I'ld like it to be very lightweight. just some daemon and a (set of) config file(s) for setting which folders I'ld like to share
[21:03] <pcpower> that logo is so meaningless
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: you should then boot to livecd and fsck the partition so you know the drive is good
[21:03] <pcpower> it doesn't tell anyone that you can hit a key to do something
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: shift before the boot splashloads
[21:04] <pcpower> I had no idea what it was
[21:04] <WalterM> why is the key 'D' by default "show desktop"??
[21:04] <_pg_> aight
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> pcpower: the keyboard and stick figure
[21:04] <pcpower> WalterM: is your window key stuck?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> pcpower: any key (keyboard) forhuman interaction (stickman)....makes sense tome
[21:04] <WalterM> no Im using vnc and it did the same on all the computers
[21:04] <html_inprogress> multipass, really? has it been since intstall ? ,, whats your last 7-10 of maintance ?
[21:05] <pcpower> ActionParsnip: but I don't know a single person that understood what it meant, or knew that you could hit a key
[21:05] <asddssdsd> hi
[21:05] <WaltherFI> wow, ow the amount of hilights for Walter :P
[21:05] <multipass> html_inprogress: it just started today, installed 2 weeks ago and have had no problems until today.. cant say i installed anything yesterday either
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> pcpower: really? weird? Only person I had to explain it to was my dad, everyone else I know got it
[21:05] <relik> can someone help me with ALSA? I don't have any sound anymore -.-
[21:06] <apocaliptica61> hi there
[21:06] <apocaliptica61> i need help
[21:06] <html_inprogress> multipass, what have you install , (everthing)
[21:06] <apocaliptica61> i have install unbuto 10 on vmware but i cant use my wirless
[21:07] <apocaliptica61> it is intel 5100
[21:07] <Weeze> ActionParsnip: It's telling me "usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for mnt//boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). No path or device is specified. Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed."
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: did you mount the partition your Ubuntu is installed to?
[21:08] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: its an ssd drive does that give you any idea?
[21:08] <apocaliptica61> somome can help?
[21:08] <Weeze> ActionParsnip: Yeah, mount /dev/sda should have taken care of that I think
[21:08] <sudipta> Axlin:remember me.....I,m the one who asks for ur desktop screenshots....
[21:08] <apocaliptica61> weeze the question is por me?
[21:08] <html_inprogress> multipass,  did you get compiz? it give me all kinds of troubles and fits
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: it may be a factor, fsck will also test the data. SSD only has a limited number of writes,and you just installed an OS to it...
[21:08] <multipass> html_inprogress: yeah, but i've had it since ubuntu install
[21:08] <_pg_> ActionParsnip: how limited?
[21:08] <Weeze> Question is for anyone willing to help. :)
[21:09] <Weeze> I don't want to bug Action too much, he's balancing helping like 10 people simultaneously.
[21:09] <apocaliptica61> i need help i want use my wireless card on ubunto 10.10 via vmware
[21:09] <apocaliptica61> is it posssible?
[21:10] <multipass> brb
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: 100,000 writes per cell
[21:10] <_pg_> oh god what could that mean lol
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> apocaliptica61: it's ubuntu, not ubunto
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: over time the drive will degrade, you can configure your OS to use the drive less but it will eventually have issues, if you havn't done a lot of installing to it, it should be ok
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: anyway, test the ram and test the drive so you know allis well
[21:12] <html_inprogress> multipass, , its a wild guess , but try to disable it  and then just type a ramdon (few kbs in size min.) doc  and have only that running /save wait 5 secs restart
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Weeze: I'm not good with grub. I always single boot so never have any issues
[21:14] <html_inprogress> ActionParsnip,  so whats you trying to do ? a dual boot?
[21:14] <Weeze> html_inprogress: That'd be me. I'm the dual boot guy... not having much luck so far.
[21:15] <html_inprogress>  you both are having trouble??????
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> html_inprogress: not me, its Weeze
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> html_inprogress: all system firing on all cyliners here :)
[21:16] <html_inprogress> ActionParsnip,  so ur ok ?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> *cylinders
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> html_inprogress: yeah all good man
[21:16] <html_inprogress> ok ,
[21:17] <Weeze> Why is XP such a bully. It's like Ubuntu doesn't even exist. :(
[21:17] <html_inprogress> well i need a html generator (open source)
[21:17] <DiscoStarslayer> Weeze, it doesn't just hate ubuntu. it will hate vista and 7 too
[21:17] <html_inprogress> Weeze,  so what your status ?
[21:18] <Weeze> Ubuntu is installed on sda, 160gb hd. XP is installed on another hard drive, sdb, 40gb. I installed Ubuntu second, hoping that grub would do its thing. When I boot, it just automatically starts XP.
[21:18] <html_inprogress>  well i need a html generator   or templates (open source) where  can i get them
[21:19] <apocaliptica61> hello could i use my wirless (intel 5100) in ubunto via vmware
[21:19] <apocaliptica61> ??
[21:19] <Weeze> html_inprogress: CSS templates?
[21:19] <De|ta> anyone got the time/patience to help a newbie with WOL - http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_Wake-On-Lan_%28Ubuntu%29
[21:19] <html_inprogress> yeah i know  whats wrng
[21:19] <maheanuu> I am having mic prob's with Ubuntu10.10
[21:20] <html_inprogress> im not sure what that means  but  yes
[21:20] <_pg_> html_inprogress: bluefish i think may be worth looking into
[21:20] <Weeze> html_inprogress: check out http://www.freecsstemplates.org/  - they have some good templates you can learn from
[21:20] <html_inprogress> im new to web design
[21:21] <html_inprogress>  got the idea here..)
[21:21] <flaritycat> De|ta, restart computer , hit delete button , check if it has the setting "Wake-Up On LAN" active in some of the menus.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Weeze: Change the boot order in the BIOS.
[21:21] <apocaliptica61> someone can help???
[21:21] <De|ta> flaritycat, what i'm struggling with is creating the init.d script to get it to auto start
[21:22] <Weeze> Jordan_U, good idea. I'll try that now.
[21:22] <De|ta> i'm new to use the terminal in linux, and don't really understand what it's telling me to do
[21:22] <De|ta> and pasting the lot into the terminal doesn't work like it suggests
[21:22] <flaritycat> If your editing a script , do it in gedit or another text-based program.
[21:23] <karine> hello
[21:23] <coder2> whenever i shutdown my laptop the process goes into command line mode...how can i get rid of it....i am using ubntu10.04
[21:24] <apocaliptica61> there are some free for help???
[21:24] <guntbert> !ask | apocaliptica61
[21:24] <karine> en français cé pos?sible
[21:24] <BlouBlou> !fr | karine
[21:24] <De|ta> flaritycat, isn't gedit a gui app.. i'm SSH'ing to the box i'm editing
[21:25] <Jordan_U> apocaliptica61: If Ubuntu is the guest then it wouldn't be using the wireless card directly. The host would connect via wireless and the guest would connect via a virtual ethernet card.
[21:26] <flaritycat> De|ta,  well yeah. I probably cant help you anyways. Have you tried google?
[21:26] <html_inprogress> Weeze,  so your put one os  one drive and the other one the spare?
[21:26] <De|ta> yeah, loads of conflicting information about it all
[21:27] <datzilla> ok, so I have this problem. I set my machine name something like "home" @ domain.net  now I realize this was a mistake because I have a domain something like home.domain.net at another location, and when I try to ssh into home.domain.net it tries itself.. so I tried changing the hostname, but it still doesn't work.. what do I need to change?
[21:28] <html_inprogress> De|ta,  well  does it start that way?
[21:28] <html_inprogress> like boot up to command line?
[21:28] <Osmodivs> Hello. In the BIOS, What option do you have to turn off in order to make the Soundcard work?
[21:28] <DrArkaneX> Osmodivs: Make sur ein Bios it's set for HDAudio
[21:29] <De|ta> html_inprogress, I get bash: /etc/init.d/wake-on-lan: Permission denied
[21:29] <De|ta>  when trying to edit the file
[21:29] <Osmodivs> DrArkaneX, I have a PCI sond card
[21:29] <DrArkaneX> De|ta: make sure you are in admin mode or sudo
[21:29] <De|ta> am using sudo
[21:30] <DrArkaneX> Osmodivs: you have an obboard sound?  if so, disable it in bios
[21:30] <datzilla> damn.. ubuntu unregged...
[21:30] <De|ta> so I thought i'd browse to /etc/init.d/ to see if the file is there.. but init.d is a symlink (which is new to me) so not sure what to look at next
[21:30] <datzilla> not going to get any help here am I
[21:30] <datzilla> oh.. that's just overflow..
[21:30] <html_inprogress> Osmodivs,  there are hunderds or even  thousand  of of models of motherboards and about a 100 bios ,    need to reshape your question
[21:30] <datzilla> maybe I'll get some help after all
[21:31] <zerd_> Hi,  I'm trying to mount an ext3-formatted usb drive which I usually serve through samba. When I mount it directly to my laptop the special characters (umlauts) in filenames become question marks and the kde complains it can't find the file (although it is there). Anyone know how to resolve this issue?
[21:31] <zerd_> my smb.conf charset parameters are: unix charset = CP850 and dos charset = CP850; it would seem ubuntu uses utf8 by default, so this might be the problem?
[21:32] <DrArkaneX> zerd, maybe so...
[21:33] <Mirrors> hey
[21:33] <Osmodivs> I have a PCI card, and an Intel MoBo, I have 3 options in the BIOS in Peripheral Configuration: AUDIO, <disable> if enabled i have this option: High definition ront Panel Audio >disable> ON BOARD LAN: <Enable> ONBOARD 1394 <Disable>
[21:33] <DrArkaneX> zerd_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1259776.html
[21:34] <DrArkaneX> Osmodivs: disable all on board sound
[21:34] <slackster> ok, so I have this problem. I set my machine name something like "home" @ domain.net  now I realize this was a mistake because I have a domain something like home.domain.net at another location, and when I try to ssh into home.domain.net it tries itself.. so I tried changing the hostname, but it still doesn't work.. what do I need to change?
[21:34] <zerd_> DrArkaneX: many thanks, precisely what I needed!
[21:34] <zen> anyone, how to install gnome 3 on maverick
[21:35] <ikonia> slackster: your machine name has no relevence to your hostname
[21:35] <ikonia> zen: you don't
[21:35] <zen> why?
[21:35] <ikonia> zen: because it's not officially packaged for maverick
[21:35] <DrArkaneX> zen: it's not a good idea...
[21:35] <zen> OK, thx!
[21:35] <slackster> ikonia, it doesn't let the request get beyond local
[21:36] <steiner> what do i do if the computer is frozen on startup? the mouse doesnt move and the cpu monitor is showing full usage
[21:36] <ikonia> slackster: the hostname has nothing to do with the dns name
[21:36] <DrArkaneX> i had some minor problems upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 but i got all of the bs squared away... running like a champ now
[21:36] <ikonia> DrArkaneX: 11.04 isn't released, so not supported yet
[21:37] <DrArkaneX> true... but if he wants Gnome 3, that would be the route
[21:37] <slackster> ikonia, home.domain.net is at a different location than 127.0.1.1 which is what I get it I ping it
[21:37] <ikonia> DrArkaneX: no it's not, as that's the unity shell, not the full gnome 3 system
[21:38] <ikonia> slackster: pastebin your /etc/hosts file
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> steiner: does CTRL+ALT+T do anything?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> DrArkaneX: there is a ppa for maverick for gnome3
[21:39] <multipass> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 wont start up all the way, it freezes right after selecting it from grub. sometimes after a few minutes it will give error message "port 1 disabled by hub (emi?), re-enabling", when i try safe mode it stops loading stuff after it scans some USB ports-- the last thing i did yesterday was use oracle virtual box to transfer stuff to iphone-- any ideas?
[21:39] <asddssdsd> h
[21:39] <asddssdsd> hi
[21:39] <asddssdsd> question
[21:39] <asddssdsd> can sb help me
[21:40] <Osmodivs> I have the PCI sound card in the HARDWARE section in soundpreferences, but I have a Dummy Output in OUTPUT
[21:40] <ikonia> asddssdsd: you need to ask a question
[21:40] <asddssdsd> oh sorry
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: with zero details, no
[21:40] <slackster> ikonia, my fault, I was thinking of /etc/hostname
[21:40] <asddssdsd> my question is: sb here to help me
[21:40] <ikonia> asddssdsd: sb ?
[21:40] <slackster> apparently I need to change /etc/hosts
[21:40] <asddssdsd> somebody
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: yes, thats the point of the channel
[21:40] <asddssdsd> ok
[21:40] <steiner> actionparsnip: i put the mouse in a different usb port, now its working. but ive also had the computer freeze up a lot to where ive had to shut it doiwn manually
[21:40] <Guest37964> Hello I am running ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition. Firefox periodically freezes every 5 - 10 seconds for approximately 5 seconds. I very recently installed ubuntu.
[21:40] <asddssdsd> so can you help me please
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: ask and if people can help, they will
[21:40] <asddssdsd> ok
[21:41] <ikonia> asddssdsd: ask a question, or stop talking
[21:41] <zen> ActionParsnip -ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds
[21:41] <Osmodivs> i HAVE NO iDEA on what happened here, the sound was working fine a few days ago, then, all of a suden I can't hear anything
[21:41] <asddssdsd> Guest37964, what hard drive
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest37964: after a freeze, run:  dmesg | tail   does it give any clues?
[21:41] <tuhin> how longer does ubuntu keeps packages of old ubuntu versions after support is ended?
[21:41] <asddssdsd> tuhin: no lon ger
[21:41] <tensorpudding> i'm pretty sure they're all kept available on oldubuntu
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> zen: not sure exactly what it is but I know they exist, it'snot really stable yet but you may use it if you wish
[21:42] <ikonia> tuhin: once it's EOL they move it to the archive
[21:42] <slackster> ikonia, how do I reload /etc/hosts?
[21:42] <Seveas> tuhin, canonical's servers still have all old packages, dating back to warty
[21:42] <zen> i tried, not working yet :(
[21:42] <asddssdsd> tuhin why using such and old operating system
[21:42] <tensorpudding> oh wait, you want packages
[21:42] <ikonia> slackster: it's dynamic/real time
[21:42] <Guest37964> ActionParsnip, It is full of routing information of my ethernet card.
[21:42] <guntbert> slackster: you don't need to reload it
[21:42] <slackster> ikonia, ah thanks. I'll see if it worked then
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> zen: you need to log off and choose the desktop at login
[21:43] <zen> thanks
[21:43] <asddssdsd> does it rent to wait for ubuntu 11.04 ??
[21:43] <tuhin> just wondering coz i m on 10.10 and dont want to install new soon
[21:43] <asddssdsd> me 2
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: if you want, its available in an unstable beta currently
[21:44] <asddssdsd> no i meant
[21:44] <asddssdsd> does it rent to WAIT for ubuntu 11.04
[21:44] <asddssdsd> ;)
[21:44] <tensorpudding> tuhin: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ but you really should upgrade instead
[21:44] <ikonia> asddssdsd: asddssdsd rent ?
[21:44] <asddssdsd> until its finished
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: what does rent mean?
[21:44] <asddssdsd> uehm
[21:44] <asddssdsd> rent = make it sense
[21:44] <ikonia> asddssdsd: rent != make sense
[21:44] <ikonia> asddssdsd: wait until it is released
[21:44] <Guest37964> !english
[21:44] <multipass> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 freezes when starting up in normal or safe-mode, it freezes right after selecting it from grub. sometimes after a few minutes it will give error message "port 1 disabled by hub (emi?), re-enabling", when i try safe mode it stops loading stuff after it scans some USB ports-- the last thing i did yesterday was use oracle virtual box to transfer stuff to iphone-- any ideas?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: ok try using normal terms rather than coloquialisms
[21:45] <asddssdsd> i meant
[21:45] <asddssdsd> using 10.04 or waiting for 11.04
[21:45] <ikonia> asddssdsd: use 10.04
[21:45] <asddssdsd> ok
[21:45] <tuhin> i want to use 10.10 as long as possible, dotn want to install packages all over again in 1-2 years
[21:45] <asddssdsd> 10.04 or 101.0
[21:45] <asddssdsd> tuhin ohhh then you must use LTS @ tuhin
[21:45] <tuhin> 128kbps limited bandwidth here
[21:45] <ikonia> tuhin: then you need to use long term support versions
[21:45] <asddssdsd> !lts
[21:45] <tuhin> yes i know abtlts
[21:45] <tuhin> but alread using 10.10
[21:46] <asddssdsd> so then re install
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> tuhin: if its not broken, why fix it
[21:46] <ikonia> tuhin: then what's the problem ?
[21:46] <asddssdsd> yes where is the problem
[21:46] <tuhin> yeah thats why will use 10.10 as long as possible
[21:46] <asddssdsd> april 2012
[21:46] <steiner> what do i do if my computer freezes often? ive started having problems after i put new ram in but memtest runs fine
[21:46] <asddssdsd> stein test ram please okay
[21:46] <tuhin> just wanted to know till when it will get official support and if i can get packages after support is over
[21:47] <bluepop> steiner -> set latency to suite ram in the bios
[21:47] <asddssdsd> tuhin april 2012
[21:47] <tuhin> already downloaded 3.2GB's of packages..... dotn want to redownload
[21:47] <asddssdsd> tuhin
[21:47] <asddssdsd> after 2012
[21:47] <asddssdsd> there is no packages anyy more
[21:47] <Weeze> Well, that proved unsuccessful so I ate some chili instead. I feel better now, but is there anything else I can try to make XP not automatically boot?
[21:48] <Williwaller> hello, i'm trying to copy a 4.4GB file from internal hdd to external (ubuntu 10.10 32bits) but it says file is too big (there's enough space on the hdd), can someone help?
[21:48] <tensorpudding> it's not like the packages will disappear
[21:48] <guntbert> !enter | asddssdsd
[21:48] <tensorpudding> it's just that after that length of time, they won't be updated anymore
[21:48] <steiner> bluepop: i will look for that
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> steiner: if its a routing thing then i'd try a different port if you are using a wired link
[21:48] <tuhin> if it works why fix it
[21:49] <tuhin> i m using for 4 month without updating :)
[21:49] <tensorpudding> lots of reasons
[21:49] <bluepop> Williwaller -> depends on the file system of the recipient disk, If it's FAT32, the largest single file cannot exceed 4GB
[21:49] <steiner> actionparsnip: what do you mean?
[21:49] <Williwaller> arf, so there's no way?
[21:49] <TerryBook> tuhin, updating is to fix security holes and bugs
[21:49] <Guest37964> Would Ubuntu Server edition run well on older computers? Or am i better off using an "X-less" server, such as a base install of debian? It is running a Pentium 4 @ 2.4ghz, 2gbs ram...
[21:49] <ikonia> Guest37964: that's more than modern enough
[21:49] <asddssdsd> Guest37964, yes
[21:49] <tensorpudding> Guest37964: Ubuntu server doesn't come with X
[21:49] <Williwaller> bluepop> it's a .mkv, is it splitable?
[21:50] <multipass> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 freezes when starting up in normal or safe-mode, it freezes right after selecting it from grub. sometimes after a few minutes it will give error message "port 1 disabled by hub (emi?), re-enabling", when i try safe mode it stops loading stuff after it scans some USB ports-- the last thing i did yesterday was use oracle virtual box to transfer stuff to iphone-- any ideas?
[21:50] <asddssdsd> Guest37964, INstalL ubuntu 10.10 kde
[21:50] <asddssdsd> !wait | multipass
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> steiner: if you are using a wired connection, try a different port on the connection device
[21:50] <ikonia> Guest37964: ignore what asddssdsd is saying, use what you want
[21:51] <bluepop> all externals usually come with FAT32, convert to a more suitable file system or re-encode .mkv file with a lower bit rate to reduce the file size
[21:51] <Guest37964> asddssdsd, ubuntu 10.10kde as a webserver?
[21:51] <iceroot> Guest37964: the server-edition will run fine on your machine
[21:51] <asddssdsd> no
[21:51] <Guest37964> thanks
[21:51] <ikonia> multipass: try booting it without any usb devices in
[21:51] <asddssdsd> no problem
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest37964: you can run a webserver on any of the ubuntus. The server will just leave more resources free for the server to use
[21:52] <asddssdsd> do you think
[21:52] <asddssdsd> KDE works well on an e5500, 2 gb of rams
[21:52] <iceroot> asddssdsd: no need for kde on a server so please stop suggesting kubuntu for that
[21:52] <ikonia> asddssdsd: it will be fine
[21:53] <asddssdsd> iceroot: i ask for ME
[21:53] <ikonia> asddssdsd: it will be fine
[21:53] <asddssdsd> ok then i will using gnome
[21:53] <phrozen> pl
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> asddssdsd: use either, both DEs are fine
[21:54] <steiner> bluepop: there were no options about latency in bios
[21:54] <victorhugo289> I wanna get rid of my Windows, I want all my files on Ext4, I don't wanna look back.
[21:55] <victorhugo289> I'm done with Windows, after this terrible virus, no way, bye Windows!
[21:55] <ikonia> victorhugo289: ok ?
[21:55] <asddssdsd> look
[21:55] <asddssdsd> http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p705690_Terra-PC-HOME-2000LE-Silent-i230-1GB-500-FreeDOS.html
[21:55] <asddssdsd> how cheap
[21:55] <Guest37964> ActionParsnip, Hence my question :P
[21:55] <ikonia> asddssdsd: why do we need to look at this ?
[21:55] <bluepop> victorhugo289 -> no anti-virus then :-?
[21:55] <Weeze> Is there a Windows boot manager that would successfully boot into Ubuntu?
[21:55] <asddssdsd> it is soooo cheapp
[21:55] <victorhugo289> @Ikonia I was attacked by a virus and I have never felt so impotent.
[21:56] <ikonia> Weeze: no
[21:56] <asddssdsd> victorhugo289,  haha
[21:56] <ikonia> asddssdsd: we don't care, this channel is for ubuntu support, not hardware sales
[21:56] <victorhugo289> Yeah, haha
[21:56] <asddssdsd> ok
[21:56] <bluepop> Weeze -> ntldr can boot Ubuntu
[21:56] <ikonia> bluepop: no it can't
[21:56] <multipass> ikonia: tried that, no luck
[21:56] <tuhin> that pc have bad cpu and gfx
[21:56] <victorhugo289> But I'm out of there, I feel stronger on Ubuntu, this place is safe!
[21:56] <bluepop> ikonia -> yes it can and mine does
[21:56] <ikonia> bluepop: no, it boots grub for you
[21:56] <tuhin> victorhugo289: try calmtk antivirus from linux to fix virus
[21:57] <victorhugo289> No fixing, it destroyed all the .exe files
[21:57] <Weeze> I'd be fine if it booted grub! I just want it to not automatically boot into XP because it's reallllly irritating me.
[21:57] <DrManhattan> theres a great linux based antivirus rescue cd rom avira
[21:57] <ivan__> i can install any applet for manage my cpu power ?
[21:57] <victorhugo289> No fixing, too late, it just took 20 minutes to end everything.
[21:57] <ikonia> Weeze: you can set grub to boot what ever OS you want or present a menu
[21:57] <zen> victorhudo289 how you get infected?
[21:57] <victorhugo289> @Zen, a virus named Tenga, I still don't know how.
[21:58] <victorhugo289> That's the beauty of Windows, you never know how, when.
[21:58] <zen> :)
[21:58] <guntbert> zen: victorhugo289: how is that ubuntu support related?
[21:58] <Weeze> ikonia: That's the theory. :( It says grub is installed and working, but it just goes right into XP on startup.
[21:58] <ikonia> Weeze: you have to make a config change to grub to enable the menu, or select the default OS
[21:58] <zen> sorry for offending
[21:58] <ikoniaa> i hate windows
[21:58] <victorhugo289> @Guntbert, I'm thinking of moving to Ubuntu for ever and not look back, probably yeah
[21:58] <Weeze> ikonia: can I do that from LiveCD?
[21:59] <ikonia> Weeze: it should auto detect it and show the menu, but it some times doesn't
[21:59] <iceroot> Weeze: more then one harddisc? is the bios booting that harddisc with grub on it?
[21:59] <ikonia> Weeze: sure
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: wondered when you were gonna do that
[21:59] <guntbert> victorhugo289: ok, but discussing that move could take place in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[22:00] <Weeze> ikonia: They are on separate hard drives, yes. The bios should be booting the hd with grub on it (I think) because it's sda, but I'm not really sure about that part.
[22:01] <ubuntun00b1> can anyone walk me through a .deb install on ubuntu netbook edition
[22:01] <ikonia> Weeze: doesn't sound like it is to me
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntun00b1: doubleclick the file
[22:01] <iceroot> ubuntun00b1: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[22:01] <mih1406> ubuntun00b1: ubuntu center will open the file if you clicked it
[22:01] <Weeze> ikonia: How would I find out? I have the laptop next to me so I can try whatever.
[22:01] <bluepop> Weeze -> install grub on the linux drive only then use ntldr to boot either Windows or point to grub on the linux partition
[22:01] <ubuntun00b1> yeah its weird thugh the file doesn't show up in the file explorer or in terminal when i download it
[22:02] <ubuntun00b1> this is the build i'm downloading http://code.google.com/p/wxlauncher/downloads/list
[22:02] <phrozen> hello, I have to find regex which find me string starts with http:// contains somewhere in a middle video, and ends with , or | can someone help me? I think it should be something like ^http://+[[:print:]] +video+[[:print:]] +[\.|\|]]
[22:02] <bluepop> Weeze -> howto on the forums here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236846
[22:02] <phrozen> is it ok?
[22:02] <ubuntun00b1> yet  it shows up in my download bar in chromium
[22:02] <steiner> usb mouse and keyboard dont work unless i repug them in to different slots after startup, also computer is freezing often
[22:02] <Weeze> Thanks, bluepop :)
[22:03] <gumus> hi all
[22:03] <blag> is there any hope of grand central dispatch coming to linux in the future?
[22:03] <ubuntun00b1> any ideas anyone?
[22:04] <ikonia> blag: don't believe so
[22:04] <gumus> i just installed the Heroes III ; it works fine but there's no sound at all
[22:04] <KM0201> grand central dispatch? what is that
[22:04] <gumus> does anyone have an idea about it ?
[22:04] <pikoos> Hello all, Whats'up?
[22:04] <ikonia> gumus: the guys in #winehq may
[22:04] <pikoos> Any PL on chat?
[22:05] <gumus> ok
[22:05] <guntbert> !ot | pikoos
[22:06] <pikoos> !ot daniel
[22:06] <pikoos> ...
[22:06] <aj_> i think i may have accidentally uninstalled my alsa drivers, can anyone tell me how to check if they are or aren't installed?
[22:06] <Lorthirk> pitkos, you could try #ubuntu-pl
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> aj_: run: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[22:07] <gumus> what was the room for wine agaiN?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> aj_: it will show the alsa versions
[22:07] <aj_> thanks i'll run that now
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> gumus: #winehq
[22:09] <aj_> ActionParsnip: i ran the script, any chance you could help me troubleshoot why the sound stopped working on my machine?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> aj_: use tab and enter to navigate
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> aj_: publish to the server and paste the red url here
[22:10] <aj_> well the results were uploaded here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=933e505ca825f04b2520aac1e29d654cf8c68693
[22:10] <hero1900> hi guys i bought today a new laptop lenova s10-3c but unfortunately  i cant use my keyboard on ubuntu i read about acpi problem and as a fix i can disable it by an entry in the grub but when i did it the machine just hanged any idea on how i can use ubuntu on that machine or i just cant????
[22:10] <aj_> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=933e505ca825f04b2520aac1e29d654cf8c68693
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> hero1900: which release ?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> aj_: you have alsa installed. Those d6 things need an option in alsa-base.conf  to get sound
[22:11] <hero1900> 10.10 and also 11.04 also same
[22:12] <aj_> ActionParsnip: d6 things?
[22:12] <hero1900> and i read that 10.4 and 9.10 has also problem
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> aj_: sorry  dv2000
[22:12] <hero1900> this is a very old problem and no one care about solving it
[22:12] <Lethliel> hero1900: what entry did you append in grub?
[22:13] <aj_> ActionParsnip: so i should look up something to help me modify alsa-base.conf so that my sound will work?
[22:13] <daniel__> hey whats the oftopic channel ?
[22:13] <hero1900> after splash quit i append acpi=off
[22:14] <Weeze> Sorry to keep bothering. if I typed the command "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1"... could you tell me what that's doing / where I would find the out file?
[22:14] <hero1900> and then sudo update-grub
[22:14] <pfifo> is there a way to disable tooltips? Everytime I mouseover something it pops up a little hint telling me stuff I already know.
[22:14] <edbian> daniel__: ubuntu-offtopic
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> aj_: yes you will need an option lin, it may just be as simple as: options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[22:14] <pfifo> on xfce
[22:14] <Lethliel> hero1900: and on reboot the machine just didn't start?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> aj_: the file is /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:15] <hero1900> the gurn menu appear
[22:15] <aj_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i was just about to ask where it is....i'm looking into it riht now
[22:15] <gumus> does anyone have any idea about HoMM3 sound problem ?
[22:15] <hero1900> and goes by default and then hanged
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> hero1900: yep it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/677633
[22:15] <gumus> apparently nobody cares in #winehq
[22:15] <hero1900> wait i will tell you exactlly what massage it hanged on
[22:16] <Lethliel> hero1900: that will be great :)
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> hero1900: plese don't abbreviate like that it means absolutely NOTHING. What is the name of the app
[22:16] <hero1900> i already subscribe and also affect me on that bug report
[22:16] <pfifo> gumus, did you check the appdb
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumus: plese don't abbreviate like that it means absolutely NOTHING. What is the name of the app
[22:17] <Weeze> Is there a GUI for grub setup?
[22:17] <brandonlee> i need help with a cisco valet wifi adapter
[22:17] <Hybridtheoryb4> hi i have a problem installing ubuntu 11.04 using wubi
[22:17] <hero1900> it reach kernel_thread_helper
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> hero1900: wrong target, my bad
[22:17] <hero1900> and then hanged
[22:17] <hero1900> hehehehe
[22:17] <gumus> Heroes of Might and Magic III
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Hybridtheoryb4: as in #ubuntu+1
[22:17] <hero1900> i was wondering which application hehehehehe
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumus: cwrayu? ycfoit.
[22:17] <Hybridtheoryb4> Actionparsnip ?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumus: see how silly it is
[22:18] <gumus> sorry i didn't get it ?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Hybridtheoryb4: natty isn't supported here until release, support for natty is in #ubuntu+1
[22:18] <gumus> pfifo: appdb? i have the sounds
[22:18] <Hybridtheoryb4> ok thanks
[22:18] <brandonlee> Can anyone help me with using usb_modeswitch on a cisco wifi adapter?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> gumus: cool, which release are you using?youo can find out in terminal
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> gumus: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=394   seems to be a mixed back
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> *bag
[22:19] <pfifo> gumus, no on wine's website, if sound needs a fix its likely going to be on a comment on the homm3 page
[22:19] <Lethliel> hero1900: that's very strange. I always turn off acpi and never had any problems. Sorry that i can't help you. But i have to less expirience for that problem :(
[22:19] <LADmaticCA> anyone else have extremely crackling sound with trine on ubuntu 10.10?
[22:20] <ChronicSyncope> i'm having a really weird graphical problem
[22:20] <ChronicSyncope> it seems like it might be stemming from flash
[22:20] <brandonlee> Can anyone help me with usb_modeswitch
[22:20] <guntbert> LADmaticCA: what is trine?
[22:20] <hero1900> wow so good after 2 years of using and learning  this ubuntu and loving it now i have to shift back to windows thx guys and wish ubuntu luck in keeping users using ubuntu hehehehe
[22:20] <ChronicSyncope> hero1900, dual boot?
[22:21] <LADmaticCA> guntbert, a game from the indie bundle
[22:21] <hero1900> nope
[22:21] <gumus> the restoration of erathia
[22:21] <hero1900> actually i use ubuntu on this machine which is not mine
[22:21] <hero1900> my laptop having windows which i have to bring it back
[22:22] <hero1900> since i delete it
[22:22] <hero1900> and i want to remove ubuntu since i cant use at all
[22:22] <middle> Does anyone know how i can burn an iso to a USB stick with out using usb-creator-gtk? The problem is usb-creator won't load the .iso as it is 3.3Gb (Too large)
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> middle: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[22:23] <okapi> hi all, I am been trying to configure or setup samba for weeks now! Anyone can help? Anyone knows a quick setup tutorial somewhere?
[22:23] <middle> Not yet i was going to now
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> middle: why didn't you BEFORE you messed with usb-creator??
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> middle: 3.3Gb isn't the DVD size (too small) and is too big for the CD
[22:24] <ChronicSyncope> ActionParsnip, he didn't specify ubuntu
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> ChronicSyncope: true
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> middle: what is the file name you have, I'll find you the hash
[22:24] <spid3rnet> backtrack is the best download http://www.backtrack-linux.org/download its better than ubuntu
[22:25] <hero1900> linux just pain in the ------- always when i want to buy any thing or just get a any electronic gift or new laptop i will get problems
[22:25] <Sw33NY> hello allo
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> spid3rnet: backtrack isn't supported here
[22:25] <spid3rnet> ok
[22:25] <spid3rnet> sorry
[22:25] <spid3rnet> Action
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> spid3rnet: and I can name a tonne of reason's why it isnt
[22:25] <spid3rnet> u are not the opts
[22:26] <spid3rnet> ok tell me
[22:26] <toad__> hi
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> spid3rnet: its offtopic here
[22:26] <middle> ActionParsnip: Its a Windows 7 .iso :s
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !piracy | middle
[22:26] <pfifo> middle, here is a tutorial for converting... ooh win7 n/m
[22:26] <Lethliel> okapi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438&highlight=samba+howto
[22:26] <guntbert> middle: no luck, won't work
[22:26] <spid3rnet> middle win 7 is not suported
[22:26] <iceroot> modules shown with lsmod wit a used 0 can be disabled in my ramdisk? or is it possible a module is loaded when needed so i should not disable them?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> middle: I would also ask in ##windows on how to put the ISo on USB, it takes a bit more work
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> spid3rnet: can I PM
[22:27] <middle> jeezzzz thought you guys would be cool ^^ Nevermind
[22:27] <middle> thanks anywyas
[22:27] <spid3rnet> ok
[22:27] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, actually its not possible (with out violating EULA)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: answer given then :)
[22:29] <ChronicSyncope> is xserver-xorg-video-nv an nvidia video driver, or is it something x.org needs?
[22:29] <aj_> ActionParsnip:  i finally got it working, thanks so much!
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> aj_: np man :D
[22:30] <nimportequoi> ls channel
[22:30] <nimportequoi> hello mormons
[22:30] <pfifo> ChronicSyncope, its the opensource nividia driver (no FB)
[22:30] <ChronicSyncope> pfifo, so i can remove it if i have the one installed by nvidia?
[22:30] <ChronicSyncope> i'm trying to fix a display problem
[22:30] <pfifo> ChronicSyncope, you can, but its a good fall back if something happens.
[22:31] <ChronicSyncope> i can always reinstall it from the terminal
[22:34] <NictraSavios> Hmm... its been a while hasnt it?
[22:34] <NictraSavios> Anyway... Is this the place to ask questions about the alternate installer?
[22:34] <sudipta> Axlin:hey .....remember me?
[22:35] <NixGeek> If left mouse button is #1, the right mouse button is #2, and the scroll wheel click is #3, what are the scroll wheel numbers for scrolling up and down?
[22:35] <pfifo> NixGeek, likely 4 and 5
[22:35] <NictraSavios> NixGeek, They are not buttons. Some mouse have over 6 buttons :) Your standard only has 3
[22:36] <NictraSavios> NixGeek , I asked that question myself here a while ago, a few days later went out a bough a mouse with 7 buttons :) The left/right/middle, then on the side theres 2 in the front and 2 on the back.
[22:37] <NixGeek> I know, but it does give an input, and I'd like to be able to use xwii (daemon to use wiimote with ubuntu) and have one click of the scroll up as the left + button, and one click down as the right + button
[22:37] <sudipta> Axlin:i,m now running kde 4.6 and I just wanna say its awesome
[22:38] <pfifo> NixGeek, xrvt will tell you
[22:38] <NixGeek> I know, I've actually been looking into a gaming mouse
[22:38] <NictraSavios> sudipta, me too! Kubuntu 11.04 and opensuse 11.4 ftw. (I also have arch, windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04 here :P )
[22:38] <NixGeek> pfifo: xrvt?
[22:38] <Weeze> If I'm hoping to dual boot XP and Ubuntu on separate hard drives, do I install grub to just the Ubuntu drive or to both?
[22:38] <sudipta> NictraSavios:I'm using ubuntu 10.10...
[22:39] <NictraSavios> Anyway, id like to know if its possible to take every package the installer would give you, and usein the alternative installer, compile each package from source... somthing more like gentoo then ubuntu.
[22:39] <NixGeek> Weeze: Install grub to the ubuntu one and then change the order in BIOS, this will keep your windows bootloader intact
[22:39] <pfifo> NixGeek, yeah, a program, run it, scroll in the box, read the output for info.
[22:39] <NixGeek> pfifo: if it in the repos?
[22:39] <NictraSavios> sudipta then how dija get kde on it? you musta spent some over time installing haha.
[22:39] <NixGeek> pfifo: iS it in the repos?
[22:39] <Guest27108> i've just installed lubuntu on my uggly old laptop, developped in the late 90's - what a funny flashback!
[22:40] <sudipta> NictraSavios:yeah ...couple of hours...but the resul is good...except one thing
[22:40] <Weeze> NixGeek> the only problem I have with that is I can't specify which hard drive boots first in my BIOS. I can just change it to be like 1) CD, 2) Hard drive, 3) floppy, etc.
[22:40] <rooks> is there any plans to replace gwibber with something that doesnt hog all of cpu?
gtk apps looks ugly
[22:40] <NictraSavios> sudipta, why not just get kubuntu? Its the ubuntu with kde? Woulda been ALOT less trouble.
[22:40] <Guest27108> anybody here from Germany?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> !de
[22:40] <NixGeek> Weeze: I have NEVER seen a bois that doesn't have harddrive boot order, wierd!
[22:41] <ChronicSyncope> halp
[22:41] <ChronicSyncope> flash is artifacting and showing behind stuff
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> rooks: why don't you just try a different client
[22:41] <ChronicSyncope> on the wrong workspace and stuff like that
[22:41] <chasis> gracias fosco_ mimecar, alfinal lo logré
I will when the final version will be released
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> rooks: you do know there are other twitter clients, so you can replace it yourself
[22:41] <Weeze> NixGeek, I'll see if it's hidden in a submenu, perhaps.
[22:41] <NictraSavios> weeze: its there. Its just looks differnt. Lemme guess, your on a dell? Yea my girlfriends computer is like that. Took me 20 minutes to figure it out haha
[22:41] <pfifo> NixGeek, sorry, its actuall `xev` you have it if your using X
[22:41] <S711> I've been using Lynx for some time, and I like it a lot, what other text-only browsers would yous recommend? (Lynx is discontinued I believe, are there any that are still.. What's the term.. Continued? Supported?)
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> rooks: http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/05/03/twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux/
[22:41] <rooks> ActionParsnip, any poointers into something that integrates into system like gwibber?
[22:42] <rooks> ohh. thanks :)
[22:42] <NictraSavios> sudipta: The beta2 is flawless. Well... its the only KDE that has never crashed on me.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> rooks: not sure, I just use my web browser, callme old fashioned
yeah but u know...i dont have a good internet connection
[22:43] <ChronicSyncope> S711, w3m works fine
[22:43]  * S711 notes.
[22:43] <ChronicSyncope> its a terminal web browser though
[22:43] <ChronicSyncope> built into terminal
[22:43] <ChronicSyncope> you'll have to know/learn how to work vim
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> NictraSavios: its officially unstable, and also offtopic
[22:43] <NixGeek> pfifo: thanks, that got it.  4 is up, 5 is donw
[22:44] <NictraSavios> sudipta: ahh :) Okay. Hmm, yea for me , my internet means more then my computer. Our Systems leader switched our isp 4 times before we found one that could take our load.
[22:44] <ChronicSyncope> i'm getting screen artifacting from flash applications, does anyone have any ideas? I reinstalled flash and my video drivers completely, including restart between uninstall and reinstall
[22:44] <NictraSavios> ActionParsnip, Sorry >.< I do get carried away.
[22:44] <ChronicSyncope> disabling cube desktop doesnt fix it either.
cool
my gtk apps looks awefool
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> ChronicSyncope: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[22:45] <rooks> ActionParsnip, you are old fashioned
my gtk apps looks awefool in kde...can u help?
[22:46] <ChronicSyncope> ActionParsnip, it just says Description: Ubuntu 1.10
[22:46] <ChronicSyncope> 10.10*
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> ChronicSyncope: cool can you give the output of:    uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf        use http://pastebin.com
[22:48] <sudipta> my gtk apps looks awefool in kde 4.6...can anyone help?
[22:48] <ChronicSyncope> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ue3zcHnQ
[22:48] <mrdeb> when is ubuntu 1104 out
[22:48] <arand> !natty | mrdeb
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> ChronicSyncope: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree     may do it
[22:49] <ChronicSyncope> ok well i'm goign to have to restart
[22:49] <ChronicSyncope> wait
[22:49] <ChronicSyncope> if flash is the problem
[22:49] <ChronicSyncope> wouldn't shutting flash off fix it
[22:50] <pfifo> ChronicSyncope, if you dont want flash, im sure everyone here is assuming you do want flash
[22:50] <ChronicSyncope> i'm just saying
[22:50] <ChronicSyncope> when i shut off the flash plugin
[22:50] <ChronicSyncope> it doesnt fix the problem.
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> the artifact stays on the screen
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> it's like a ghost
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> that shows up especially on black backgrounds
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> even on different workspaces
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> where the video was
[22:51] <FloodBot2> ChronicSyncope: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <ChronicSyncope> heh, sorry
[22:52] <Lethliel> ChronicSyncope: Just a question: Have you tried another monitor? Perhaps yout monitor is broken?
[22:52] <ChronicSyncope> Lethliel, i'm fairly certain its not my monitor.
[22:52] <ChronicSyncope> it doesnt happen in windows
[22:53] <ChronicSyncope> i wish i could screenshot it for you guys but it doesn't fix the problem
[22:53] <ChronicSyncope> er
[22:54] <ChronicSyncope> i mean it doesnt show the problem.
[22:54] <Lethliel> ChronicSyncope: Just a thought. I had a problem with a small line on the monitor which turns out a broken monitor..
[22:54] <NictraSavios> Whoa whoa whoa. It all went black, Alikchrta got hit with a spike. the whole cluster when down.
[22:54] <NictraSavios> Look, if anyone knows the awnsers to my questions before. E-mail me... nictrasavios@gmail.com kay? Question was: Can i use the alternative installer to get all the packages in source form, then compile them , sorta link gentoo, but building ubuntu
[22:55] <NictraSavios> I gotta hit the target with a full onsloaght and xchat hogs to much, so c yahs, send me that info ASAP like, kay? Cyahs
[22:55] <ChronicSyncope> what
[22:57] <Treonaut> evening....help on avoiding busybox
[22:57] <edbian> Treonaut: Do you know how to change kernel boot options?
[22:58] <Treonaut> no edbian
[22:58] <edbian> Treonaut: Do you know how to get to the grub menu?
[22:58] <Treonaut> yes edbian:
[22:58] <_pg_> on the unity bar- the hover name lags and it bugs the hell out of me. How can I fix or disable the hover/word effects?
[22:59] <edbian> Treonaut: Go to the grub menu.  Press 'e' to edit the entry you want to boot.  at the end of the line it'll say 'quite' and 'splash'  erase those.  Then you can see errors while the system boots and we can figure our why you're getting dumped to busybox
[23:00] <archangelpetro> has anyone tried installing natty on a system with an optimus nvidia card?
[23:00] <_pg_> anyone present using ubuntu netbook?
[23:01] <edbian> _pg_: me
[23:01] <_pg_> does the hover name lag for you when you mouse over the untiy bar?
[23:01] <edbian> _pg_: Although I'm not on that machine right now
[23:01] <edbian> _pg_: No idea :(
[23:01] <_pg_> it kills me
[23:01] <Lethliel> _pg_: i have the same problem on my netbook
[23:01] <volty> hi, pls at least just a hint, i want my wordpress on local machine  to install plugins , upload images for a post : all that without going through setting up ftp servers etc
[23:02] <_pg_> Lethliel: have you lashed out in anger at anyone yet?
[23:02] <_pg_> \
[23:02] <Treonaut> edbian:  thats fine I will enter on my laptop and can do it right away
[23:02] <edbian> Treonaut: ok...
[23:03] <_pg_> is there a place to change settings about the unity dock
[23:03] <Lethliel> _pg_ it's a pain. The whole system freezes for a second when i hover over the unity bar.
[23:03] <archangelpetro> has anyone tried installing natty on a system with an optimus nvidia card? anyonbe?
[23:04] <_pg_> Lethliel: i thought netbook build was optimized for netbook-hence the point
[23:04] <_pg_> \
[23:04] <_pg_> damn this slash key!
[23:05] <Lethliel> _pg_ hehe.. i thought the same. I was frustrated and installed ubuntu desktop instead
[23:05] <liam__> how well does the desktop run on netbook?
[23:05] <archangelpetro> ffs, nobody at all?
[23:05] <Lethliel> In my opinion very fine. I have no problems
[23:05] <|Slacker|> I'm runnin natty here on my netbook and it does well
[23:05] <liam__> natty?
[23:05] <Lethliel> better then netbook remix :)
[23:06] <archangelpetro> liam__: the 'latest' version of ubunut
[23:06] <|Slacker|> liam__, ubuntu 11.04 beta
[23:06] <liam__> ahh
[23:06] <_pg_> anyone know how to configure the unity bar
[23:06] <liam__> hmmm i don't know if im ready to do a reinstall
[23:06] <liam__> lol
[23:06] <|Slacker|> _pg_, never tried that
[23:06] <trism> _pg_: if you mean on 11.04, there are some options in the unity plugin in ccsm
[23:06] <liam__> just getting nedition going good
[23:07] <_pg_> trism: on 10.10 - i just want to disable the laggy tooltips.
[23:07] <trism> _pg_: no idea then
[23:07] <_pg_> trism: or fix them
[23:08] <rhcp> hey yall
[23:08] <rhcp> got an issue. My apple wireless bt mouse works fine
[23:08] <pfifo> OHAI
[23:08] <rhcp> but wireless kb wont work
[23:08] <rhcp> anyone got solution?
[23:08] <rhcp> hunted google for hours
[23:10] <edbian> rhcp: unplug it.  Plug it in again while the system is running.
[23:10] <treonaut> edbian: how do I save the editing in grub?
[23:11] <edbian> treonaut: we don't wanna save it. (it's complicated).
[23:11] <edbian> treonaut: Did you get it to boot so you can see errors?
[23:11] <SuicidalCookie> Im trying to sign up for a bug squad mentor and i need to Set up your Ubuntu Wiki-page, how would I do that?
[23:11] <treonaut> edbian: I tried to delete the splash and quiet
[23:12] <archangelpetro> god damn it nvidia are such bellends
[23:12] <edbian> treonaut: yeah. and you booted with them erased?
[23:13] <SuicidalCookie> Im trying to sign up for a bug squad mentor and i need to Set up your Ubuntu Wiki-page, how would I do that?
[23:13] <_pg_> ultra noob question. where do i turn off require passcode to unlock from screensaver
[23:13] <_pg_> i looked under power and under password
[23:14] <_pg_> it was screensaver
[23:14] <_pg_> lol
[23:14] <edbian> _pg_: You didn't really need help with that! :P
[23:14] <SuicidalCookie> Im trying to sign up for a bug squad mentor and i need to Set up your Ubuntu Wiki-page, how would I do that?
[23:15] <rhcp> edbian: done that
[23:15] <treonaut> edbian: I dont know after erasing how I can boot without saving the change in grub
[23:15] <Lethliel> _pg_: i have installed the unity on my 10.10 netbook. I can't even find configuration files to edit with vi :(
[23:15] <rhcp> it pairs fine
[23:15] <rhcp> but the buttons dont work
[23:15] <rhcp> works like a keypad or someshit
[23:15] <pfifo> SuicidalCookie, sign up for the wiki and it should give you a user page, i think, other wikis do
[23:15] <edbian> rhcp: a keypad?
[23:15] <rhcp> yea keys dont work
[23:15] <rhcp> like -1-2-3-4-5
[23:15] <rhcp> etc
[23:16] <rhcp> if i press random buttons
[23:16] <edbian> treonaut: just erase them and press 'b'  and it will boot without those options.  I don't know what you're asking.
[23:16] <SuicidalCookie> pfifo, I signed in using launch pad and cant find my page
[23:16] <araga> hello people
[23:16] <pfifo> SuicidalCookie, try going to someone else's page and then replace their username with yours in the URL
[23:16] <SuicidalCookie> ok have an example url?
[23:17] <junwsewq> ** **
[23:17] <junwsewq> ** 0 Packs ** 10 of 10 slots open, Queue: 0/20, Record: 0 B/s
[23:17] <junwsewq> ** Bandwidth Usage ** Current: 0B/s, Record: 9.3KB/s
[23:17] <junwsewq> ** To Request A File Type: "/msg junwsewq xdcc send #x" **
[23:17] <junwsewq> *** No Packs ***
[23:17] <FloodBot2> junwsewq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <guest09876> rhythmbox itsnt picking up my iphone
[23:17] <guest09876> but i can pull photos off it
[23:17] <treonaut> edbian: you said enter the grub and erase the splash an quiet, but now I dont know how to leave the editing of the grub
[23:18] <pfifo> SuicidalCookie, sorry i dont have that wii up in the browser, just goto any talk page and click on a username
[23:18] <edbian> treonaut: How are you editing grub?  Press booting and pressing shift or are you editing some file?
[23:18] <guest09876> also i have already named my iphone download ifuse libmobile etc
[23:18] <rhcp> edbian: example k=2
[23:18] <treonaut> edbian: when the grup apears i write "e" and enter the editing mode of the grub
[23:19] <rhcp> on kb
[23:19] <edbian> rhcp: Can you change the layout in system -> preferences -> layout
[23:19] <rhcp> sure to what though
[23:19] <liam__> is ther a way to see if an install has crashed or is just being slow (like windows process manager?)
[23:20] <edbian> rhcp: system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layouts   IDK, what's it set at.  Try some others!  See what happens
[23:20] <LjL> !ops | junwsewq
[23:20] <mrdeb> liam__: top
[23:20] <liam__> ?
[23:21] <mrdeb> liam__: in terminal, top
[23:21] <liam__> ah
[23:21] <pfifo> poor ubottu
[23:21] <archangelpetro> is thre really nobody here that has used ubuntu with the stupid optimus nvidia crap?
[23:21] <edbian> LjL: Bit late don't you think?
[23:21] <pfifo> archangelpetro, not many have used natty
[23:22] <sundjinnkari> Good Afternood fellow ubuntu users
[23:22] <LjL> edbian: no, especially not when he's still in the channel and PM'ing users
[23:22] <pfifo> archangelpetro, perhaps ask in #ubuntu+1 if you havent already
[23:22] <edbian> LjL: ahhh
[23:22]  * edbian do not want
[23:22] <coz_> archangelpetro,  I dont know about the optimus nvidia crap I havent used it
[23:22] <liam__> can i safely assume that if nothing is changing in the virt category for the application it has crashed?/
[23:22] <mrdeb> is abiword fully compatible with oepn office?
[23:22] <coz_> archangelpetro,  I do use natty on the other machine however , with nvidia
[23:23] <coz_> archangelpetro,  right now it is not acting  nicely
[23:23] <mrdeb> coz_: how does it workr for you
[23:23] <mrdeb> ?
[23:23] <ChronicSyncope> seems to have fixed the flash problem :)
[23:23] <ChronicSyncope> thank you
[23:23] <coz_> mrdeb,  at this current state it is freezing but best probably to discuss this in #ubuntu+1
[23:23] <coz_> :)
[23:23] <mrdeb> coz_: yes.ok
[23:24] <sundjinnkari> afternoon ubuntu users
[23:25] <treonaut> edbian: did you understand the editing of the grub?
[23:26] <edbian> treonaut: No.  How did you edit grub.  Did you boot up or did you edit a file?
[23:26] <_Neytiri_> i was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction for setting up a ipv6 to 4 tunnel on ubuntu 10.4
[23:27] <treonaut> edbian: I boot up and wait for the grub and then enter the editing mode of grub wit "e"
[23:27] <pfifo> _Neytiri_, all I can say is that theres this script called 6to4.sh
[23:27] <edbian> treonaut: so you edit grub there (delete splash and quite) and press b to boot  (there are instruction how to boot at the bottom)
[23:27] <edbian> treonaut: You don't have to save it
[23:29] <Knuxgen> i'm trying to install ubuntu off my cd-rom
[23:29] <Knuxgen> this is what i get https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Tr3-Pi0d7LQ/TatmuiIp3fI/AAAAAAAAAJc/PKjjiKWEicI/s1440/IMAG0050.jpg
[23:29] <Knuxgen> any guess what might be wrong, please?
[23:29] <treonaut> edbian: now I see a protocoll
[23:29] <edbian> treonaut: Do you see any errors in there?
[23:29] <chotaz> hello everyone, my webcam doesnt work only with pluging it into the computer, what can I do to get it working?
[23:30] <edbian> Knuxgen: I think the CD is bad
[23:30] <muneeb> hi! Can I develop application using gtk3 on Ubuntu 10.10?
[23:30] <Knuxgen> it's the current 10.10 downloaded from ubuntu.com
[23:30] <Knuxgen> edbian:
[23:30] <michaelh1> Hi there.  My Natty installation randomly does a controlled power off as if I'd selected 'Shutdown'.  Where should I report it?
[23:30] <edbian> Knuxgen:
[23:30] <pfifo> Knuxgen, md5sum the CD
[23:30] <edbian> Knuxgen: It said it couldn't find a filesystem (which it should be able to read from the CD)
[23:31] <pfifo> muneeb, sure, why not
[23:31] <IdleOne> Knuxgen: sometimes downloads get corrupted or maybe it was a bad burn. md5sum it and also burn another cd at slowest speed possible
[23:32] <treonaut> edbian: [sdd] assuming drive cache: write through.....next line Numbers sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] attached scsi disk .....next line gave up for root deviece...
[23:32] <Knuxgen> IdleOne: simply burned it with brain-less right click -> burn in win7
[23:32] <edbian> treonaut: how many harddrives you got?
[23:32] <muneeb> pfifo, gnome 3 isn't working great on ubuntu.. so i was thinking that applications made in gtk3 will have same prob;lem
[23:32] <treonaut> edbian: 2
[23:33] <wandilson> Hum
[23:33] <edbian> treonaut: what is sdd  ?  Is there an ipod or something plugged in?
[23:33] <edbian> treonaut: sdd should be the 4th storage device
[23:33] <pfifo> muneeb, they could, but that efinatly isnt preventing you from developing a gtk3 app on ubuntu.
[23:33] <treonaut> edbian: nothing
[23:33] <wandilson> help
[23:34] <Phail_Quail> I need an IRCop, where can I find one?
[23:34] <edbian> treonaut: Then I'm not sure.  It's complaining about your hdds  I can say that for sure
[23:34] <muneeb> pfifo, will it affect testing?? i mean will i be able to run it successfully?
[23:34] <Khisanth> Phail_Quail: #freenode
[23:34] <Phail_Quail> Thanks Khisanth
[23:35] <treonaut> edbian: ok I will take one off and see what happens, because I only boot from one
[23:35] <edbian> treonaut: sure.
[23:35] <pfifo> muneeb, that probbally depends on what all your doing. I suspect that you may run into a broken feature of a lib if you include lots of libs in your project.
[23:35] <treonaut> edbian: if not I< will be back tomorrow
[23:35] <chotaz> anyon has any tips on getting a webcam working?
[23:35] <edbian> treonaut: haha, ok
[23:35] <treonaut> edbian: tks
[23:36] <aef> I'm running a Sun Java 6 JRE 6.24 (64-bit) on an Ubuntu Server 10.04 (x86_64) system which is hardware virtualized via Xen ontop of a Debian lenny (x86_64) hypervisor. Often, out of nowhere, the Java VM freezes my system for multiple minutes. According to the process manager about 400% (!) of my processor. This happens with almost any application I ran so far on the Java VM. For example: IntelliJ IDE, NetBeans IDE, Tomcat Application Server with
[23:36] <aef>  TeamCity continuous integration, ... . If you have any idea what could cause this, please help me.
[23:36] <treonaut> edbian: becaus e its to late
[23:36] <muneeb> pfifo,  i just got reply from gtk+ irc.. they are saying "you can't develop using 10.10"
[23:38] <pfifo> muneeb, right :)
[23:40] <muneeb> pfifo, they themselves are confused in this problem!! now some one is saying you can :)
[23:40] <treonaut> edbian: unfortunatly the same result
[23:40] <edbian> treonaut: I expected that.  It's the primary hdd
[23:40] <treonaut> edbian: I unplugged the second HD and again busybox
[23:41] <pfifo> muneeb, you would have to install lots of libs and such, IF... IF you could get everything worrking correctly, you COULD develop a gtk3 app no problems.
[23:41] <edbian> treonaut: I know. I just said.  I expected that
[23:41] <muneeb> okay pfifo thanks for ur help i'll give it a try :)
[23:42] <_Neytiri_> is there a way i can add a virtual interface to a system without any phisical newtork cards?
[23:42] <pfifo> _Neytiri_, usually thats what lo is for
[23:43] <_Neytiri_> i need to bind a tunnel to it tho
[23:45] <Paddy_NI> Apparently there is some reverse engineered broadcom driver that I need in order to enable "Master" mode on my wireless chip, would anyone have any idea where I can get this?
[23:45] <pfifo> _Neytiri_, sorry cant really help you with that
[23:47] <edbian> Paddy_NI: Where did you find this information?
[23:47] <multipass> hi, im trying to update grub from a live cd, im in the grub directory of the hard drive, what do i type next?
[23:47] <Paddy_NI> edbian: I have a link just a sec
[23:48] <edbian> Paddy_NI: What broadcom chipset do you have?
[23:48] <Paddy_NI> edbian: BCM4313 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[23:49] <edbian> Paddy_NI: darn.  I have a 4306.  Hoping I'd be able to do the same
[23:49] <Paddy_NI> It works fine for connecting to wifi but I want to turn it into an AP
[23:49] <travaler> I have installed a wireless reciver on my Ubuntu machine (9.04). It picks up all the wireless networks, but fails to connect to the open networks.  What can I do?
[23:49] <edbian> multipass: you do this: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/ubuntu/install/ /dev/sda
[23:50] <edbian> multipass: /dev/sda needs to be the harddrive you want grub on.  /path/to/ubuntu/install needs to be the folder you have your Ubuntu / mounted in on this live CD
[23:50] <edbian> multipass: Does that all make sense
[23:50] <edbian> multipass: man grub-install   :)
[23:50] <multipass> yeah thanks
[23:50] <Knuxgen> pfifo / IdleOne: md5sum is ok
[23:50] <edbian> multipass: Lemme know if it works
[23:51] <IdleOne> Knuxgen: Then I suggest burning at slower speed
[23:51] <pfifo> Knuxgen, what kind of reader are you using?
[23:51] <Knuxgen> pfifo:  tried winMd5Sum
[23:52] <roark> I installed ubuntu 10 10 on lenovo b560
[23:52] <roark> i had windows 7 before b
[23:52] <roark> i can only see command line
[23:52] <roark> i cant see gui
[23:52] <pfifo> Knuxgen, no your hardware, what did you use to read the cd?
[23:52] <roark> how do i get GUI
[23:52] <bobbyd> hi
[23:53] <bobbyd> is there a way to make the window icons (minimise, maximise, close) bigger in ubuntu?
[23:53] <mickster04> roark: how did you install it?
[23:53] <Knuxgen> pfifo: a dvd rom, or do you mean exactly the type of it?
[23:53] <travaler> wireless adaptor won't connect to network in Ubuntu 9.04, what can I do to diagnose problem?
[23:53] <root_____> exit
[23:53] <roark> mickster04: from a usb disk
[23:54] <roark> mickster04: from a usb stick *
[23:54] <edbian> bobbyd: Change the theme you're using. system -> preferences -> appearances (but I think you're going to be annoyed by the sizes of others as well)
[23:54] <Knuxgen> pfifo: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C ATA Device
[23:54] <roark> i created usb stick using usb-creator from other ubuntu laptop
[23:54] <mickster04> roark: ok, did you do an md5sum check on it?
[23:54] <roark> no
[23:54] <pfifo> Knuxgen, I just want to know if thre is anything special about it. Is it just a plain jane reader hooked up to an pata or sata port?
[23:54] <roark> but i had the same issue with other version of ubuntu too
[23:54] <mickster04> roark: yeah you probably need to re-doanload the iso?
[23:55] <roark> not sure if it has anything to do with my laptop
[23:55] <edbian> travaler: start by figuring out your chipset.  sudo lspci -k  shows the chipsets for many devices (including the card).  My chipset is Broadcom BCM4306  to give you an idea what to look for
[23:55] <mickster04> roark: did you test run it before installing?
[23:55] <roark> ya
[23:55] <mickster04> roark: and that worked?
[23:55] <wingnut2626> are there any alternative nes emulators to gfceu?
[23:55] <roark> ya
[23:55] <roark> thats what puzzles me
[23:55] <mickster04> roark: ok wellrun the !md5 on it
[23:55] <mickster04> (the iso
[23:55] <induz> hello
[23:55] <mickster04> )
[23:55] <travaler> edbian the wifi dongle is one by belkin, it connects over USB
[23:56] <induz>  what version is available for Vbox and what repos to downloads???
[23:56] <edbian> travaler: That makes things harder... :(  Does it show up in sudo lspci -k  ?
[23:56] <bobbyd> edbian: Thanks, I like the current theme, just the icons are to small for my TV :)
[23:56] <edbian> bobbyd: no problem
[23:56] <induz> I want to run windo 7 on VirtualBox
[23:56] <edbian> induz: what's stopping you?
[23:57] <induz> there are so many version on synaptic for Vbox
[23:57] <Knuxgen> pfifo: yep, simple dvd burner device
[23:57] <induz> edbian, what version to be installed/
[23:57] <edbian> induz: mmm good question.  Lemme have a look
[23:57] <induz> I meant what packages
[23:57] <multipass> hey edbian, looks like that went fine, can i run grub update on that drive too?
[23:58] <induz> i want xp or window 7 as guest OS
[23:58] <travaler> edbian no idea, by the way, I see all networks
[23:58] <pfifo> Knuxgen, Its probabaly a broken CD then, try burning at a slower speed
[23:58] <edbian> multipass: update-grub will have no effect if you just installed grub.  It reinstalls grub basically.  Try to boot the system
[23:58] <edbian> travaler: You see the networks?  Can you connect to an unencrypted network?
[23:59] <travaler> edbian no my network is wide open and it won't connect
[23:59] <multipass> basically my system wont boot anymore.. out of the blue, after grub it just dies
[23:59] <edbian> induz: virtualbox-ose  (the others are just features and stuff)
[23:59] <edbian> travaler: Mmm.  Did you find the chipset in lspci ?
[23:59] <Knuxgen> pfifo: im running the iso now on win7 with virtual clone drive, but that would give me only wubi install, right?
[23:59] <pfifo> Knuxgen, yeah, and I have never done that myself