[00:13] <saesneg> hi :)
[00:14] <saesneg> can anyone help me get my power button working on lubuntu?
[00:14] <saesneg> i want it to bring up the log out menu
[00:14] <saesneg> current its doing nothing
[00:30] <MrChrisDruif> Hai zkriesse
[00:33] <zkriesse> Go
[00:33] <zkriesse> Yo is a word iPod!!!! Damn you!
[00:33] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[00:33] <zkriesse> Haha
[00:33] <zkriesse> Yo man
[00:33] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going?
[00:34] <MrChrisDruif> Besides the iPod not recognizing Yo as a word? :P
[00:34] <zkriesse> It's going man
[01:23] <wizonesolutions> MrChrisDruif it downloaded OK and checks out. Yay.
[01:23] <MrChrisDruif> Great :D
[01:23] <wizonesolutions> The link to the torrent you gave me did work, that's what I used
[01:23] <MrChrisDruif> The torrent?
[01:23] <wizonesolutions> Yep
[01:24] <MrChrisDruif> Alright :)
[01:25] <MrChrisDruif> For 10.04 right? Somehow the torrent didn't connect to mine afaik
[01:40] <wizonesolutions> MrChrisDruif: Yeah, for 10.04
[01:40] <MrChrisDruif> Weird...I was seeding <_<"
[01:46] <wizonesolutions> seeding?
[01:48] <MrChrisDruif> When you've got the file on your computer and share it with the world, that is called seeding :)
[01:50] <wizonesolutions> ah ok
[02:04] <wizonesolutions> Finally running the installer yay
[02:06] <IAmNumberOne> Great :)
[02:06] <IAmNumberOne> With me it gave an error this afternoon, but it might be an older iso
[02:07] <IAmNumberOne> It eventually ran, so I didn't really mind it
[02:11] <IAmNumberOne> wizonesolutions: Good luck, I'm calling it a night :)
[02:11] <wizonesolutions> IF you're still there...do you know if ext4 is "ready" yet?
[02:12] <wizonesolutions> Or should I stick to ext3, or maybe reiser? I now have the choice :)
[02:12] <wizonesolutions> Maybe time to move into the 21st century
[02:12] <IAmNumberOne> wizonesolutions: I've used it for months, never had an issue :)
[02:12] <wizonesolutions> Maybe I will give it a shot. I've got backups anyway. Thanks!
[02:12] <wizonesolutions> take care
[02:12] <IAmNumberOne> I've never used reiser
[02:13] <IAmNumberOne> But progress of reiserFS has deceased afaik wizonesolutions, so I would go with Ext4 :)
[02:13] <IAmNumberOne> It's a good FS :)
[02:13] <wizonesolutions> Yeah, he umm...got in trouble didn't he
[02:14] <IAmNumberOne> Yeah, but people are free to work on it afaik, but no-one really does or something?
[02:14] <wizonesolutions> I'll try ext4 then, seems safe enough
[02:14] <wizonesolutions> I heard there was some big bug in the beginning
[02:14] <wizonesolutions> But I guess they fixed it
[02:14] <wizonesolutions> I think it was some rare edge case anyway
[02:15] <wizonesolutions> I'd probably never hit it
[02:16] <IAmNumberOne> Prolly won't :)
[02:16] <IAmNumberOne> Btw, I'm one of those people that if you see me online...then I am "online" :P
[02:18] <wizonesolutions> OK, good to know. Cuz I'm so...not. Though I try to nick change, but sometimes I forget
[02:18] <IAmNumberOne> :D
[02:23] <wizonesolutions> Ah interesting, XFS is good for large files. Looking into the different filesystems a little bit though I know I'm going with ext4
[02:24] <wizonesolutions> Some dude was telling me about ZFS which sounded awesome, seriously awesome, but I think it requires Solaris or something...
[02:25] <IAmNumberOne> I don't know...I've got some link somewhere...hold on
[02:26] <wizonesolutions> JFS seems good all around but I think I read that it doesn't recover as well as ext and only journals some things
[02:26] <wizonesolutions> seems like XFS would be good if I was ever planning to store some large files somewhere, good to know
[02:28] <IAmNumberOne> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/
[02:28] <wizonesolutions> Heh, nice, thanks for the link
[02:28] <IAmNumberOne> Your welcome :)
[02:29] <IAmNumberOne> Now I'm really off...good luck wizonesolutions :D
[02:31] <wizonesolutions> ooh, I've got to keep an eye on btrfs...looks like a big contender...
[06:53] <UBuxuBU> good morning Lords of the Code...
[08:15] <UBuxuBU> yo MrChrisDruif
[09:30] <ubuntu> lubuntu is the shit!
[09:30] <bioterror> in a good or in a bad way
[09:30] <ubuntu> great way!
[09:33] <MrChrisDruif> Great to hear LAcan :)
[09:34] <bioterror> and someone is tooo slow
[09:35] <MrChrisDruif> Why bioterror?
[09:35] <bioterror> becouse he quit before you pressed enter
[09:37] <MrChrisDruif> Ow....my IRC plugins stopped from showing it to me....makes a lot of channels more clean...no unnecessary sign-in/out :D
[09:37] <bioterror> :D
[11:50] <bioterror> hey joe!
[12:07] <leszek> hi
[12:11] <mark76> Hey leszek
[14:48] <craigbass1976> Can anyone recommend a nice lightweight alternative to gpicview that prints?
[14:49] <leszek> ristretto
[14:50] <craigbass1976> leszek, thanks.  This has been dirving me crazy for months and I keep forgetting to fix it.
[14:52] <craigbass1976> leszek, hey, where's print?
[14:55] <leszek> File -> Print !?
[14:57] <craigbass1976> It aint there
[14:57] <leszek> hmm... isn't implemented then I guess
[14:57] <leszek> xD
[14:58] <leszek> you can always pull eog but that might also pull down some gnome dependencies aswell
[14:58] <craigbass1976> I'm all set on that...
[14:58] <MrChrisDruif> I've heard of one...brb
[15:00] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know it dependencies, but here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/viewnior-lightweight-image-viewer-for-gnome-update/
[15:02] <leszek> MrChrisDruif: it has no printing support I guess
[15:02] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know...I haven't used it :)
[15:03] <leszek> gthumb has also printing support
[15:11] <craigbass1976> Offtopic alert: So I'm running Lubuntu here at work to most stuff, but need a windows box to design kitchens.  I'm updating now, and keep getting reminded to install the "Malicious Software Removal Tool" but I'm scared.  If I install that, won't it delete windows?
[15:15] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[15:20] <craigbass1976> See you later
[16:08] <ericy> I need support for .rar compressed files, either a stand-alone or extension for pcmanfm.
[16:11] <szczur> sudo apt-get install rar file-roller
[16:11] <szczur> and then you're got to go :)
[16:12] <szczur> ready to go*
[16:12] <szczur> meh, i suck at oneliners :)
[16:12] <ericy> ok.
[16:19] <curtlee> if I run startx I get a default L
[16:20] <curtlee> if I run startx I get a default LXDE session instead of Lubuntu's LXDE session.  Does anyone know a way to have it start Lubuntu's LXDE session?
[18:12] <bioterror> curtlee, you need to tell to use profile
[18:13] <curtlee> how can I do that?
[18:14] <bioterror> what's your .xinitrc like
[18:14] <curtlee> I don't have one
[18:15] <bioterror> lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
[18:15] <bioterror> that's the execute command
[18:15] <curtlee> so I guess it would be using /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[18:15] <curtlee> bioterror: thank you
[18:15] <curtlee> I will try that now
[18:16] <curtlee> worked like a charm, thank you bioterror
[18:17] <bioterror> check if your pcmanfm works like a charm
[18:17] <bioterror> finds usb pendrives and so on
[18:17] <curtlee> no, "Not Authorized"
[18:18] <curtlee> why is that?
[18:19] <bioterror> oh yeah
[18:20] <bioterror> dbus-launch --exit-with-session startlubuntu
[18:20] <bioterror> does that make sense
[18:21] <bioterror> I have no idea in which order lubuntu launches certain stuff
[18:23] <curtlee> $ dbus-launch --exit-with-session startlubuntu
[18:23] <curtlee> Only one lxsession can be executed at a time
[18:23] <bioterror> yeah
[18:24] <bioterror> quit first
[18:24] <bioterror> from the graphical interface
[18:28] <curtlee> so I should run it before startx ?
[18:29] <bioterror> that should start the x
[18:29] <curtlee> oh
[18:37] <curtlee> it doesn't start X
[18:50] <curtlee> any ideas?
[21:38] <szh> How can I allow ssh (and other network) connections to my Lubuntu machine from outside of my home network? Right now, I can only connect from within my home network. When I attempt to connect from a remote location, I get a " Connection refused" error.
[21:39] <szh> I have ufw disabled
[21:40] <curtlee> you have to forward port 22 on your router to the computer you want to connect ot
[21:40] <curtlee> not a lubutu thing
[21:40] <szh> I have Static NAT so that all connections should be forwarded.
[21:41] <szh> Maybe it's a problem with my router or ISP.
[21:42] <curtlee> with a NAT you have to forward a specific port to a specific computer behind the nat
[21:42] <szh> Okay. I'm trying that now.
[21:42] <curtlee> when someone connects to port 22 at your public ip it is connecting to port 22 on your router
[21:43] <curtlee> so it has to know which computer to forward that connection to
[21:44] <szh> Now I'm getting "ssh: connect to host <hostname> port 22: Bad file number"
[21:44] <szh> What's that about?
[21:47] <curtlee> could you pastebin your command and output
[21:48] <curtlee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:49] <szh> From a Windows Git Bash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595682/
[21:52] <curtlee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/595685/
[21:54] <szh> What?
[21:55] <curtlee> I see your error a lot on google
[21:56] <szh> I couldn't find anything that helped on Google.
[21:56] <curtlee> have you tried testing the connection first with something like putty
[21:57] <szh> no.
[21:57] <szh> I'll go download putty
[21:57] <curtlee> we should go to #lubuntu-offtopic or you private message me
[21:59] <szh> curtlee: I'm on #lubuntu-offtopic now
[22:01] <wizonesolutions> Hmm, how come df is failing at math? What happened to the other ~14G? Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:01] <wizonesolutions> /dev/sda1             291G  3.7G  273G   2% /
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> Hai wizonesolutions
[22:01] <wizonesolutions> MrChrisDruif Hey
[22:03] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know wizonesolutions
[22:06] <LAcan> can anyone help me get sound running on lubuntu 10.10?
[22:06] <LAcan> everything seems fine, normal, and installed, i just cant get ANY sound, lol
[22:07] <bioterror> check alsa-mixer
[22:07] <bioterror> if you have anything muted
[22:07] <bioterror> MM tells it's muted
[22:07] <LAcan> did and dont
[22:08] <LAcan> well headphones are muted, but none are plugged in right now
[22:08] <LAcan> is there a command for just a systemp beep?
[22:12] <LAcan> sorry im back
[22:12] <LAcan> so yah, everything looks fine in alsamixer and elsewhere but I can't get any sound out of this realtek card
[22:20] <canllaith> LAcan: ensure alsamixer has the right device selected?
[22:20] <canllaith> Sometimes there's a generic or 'meta' device as well as the real one
[22:20] <canllaith> F6 lets you select a sound card
[22:20] <LAcan> canllaith, ye it also lists an Intel
[22:21] <canllaith> Yeah, mine has intel & nvidia but my nvidia HDMI out doesn't work in linux so that caught me to start with.
[22:21] <canllaith> (silly nvidia optimus)
[22:21] <LAcan> when i pick the intel nothing changes
[22:21] <canllaith> ok
[22:22] <canllaith> What model card is it? lspci will tell you if you don't know
[22:23] <LAcan> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
[22:23] <canllaith> oh, and one more thing you possibily have already checked - sometimes 'speakers' isn't the volume you need to turn up, 'front' is.
[22:24] <LAcan> to clarify: the default is the HDA Intel and the chip is Realtek ALC889A
[22:24] <LAcan> (its also the only one I can pick with F6)
[22:25] <LAcan> hrmm where is the option for front normally?
[22:31] <LAcan> while im at it i might as well test my headphones
[22:32] <LAcan> ok! headphones is banging!!
[22:32] <LAcan> now if i can just get these damn speakers to work
[22:33] <canllaith> Hrm, I can find a similar problem on the internets but ... only in really old versions of ubuntu
[22:33] <canllaith> in the kernel you're using, they should have been fixed for ages
[22:33] <canllaith> ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747054 )
[22:34] <canllaith> Here are some Ubuntu specific instructions that mention forcing the chipset name to the module
[22:34] <canllaith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:35] <canllaith> since lubuntu is based on ubuntu it's a good chance it will help
[22:41] <LAcan> ty for help, reading now
[22:46] <LAcan> when i execute 'alsa force-reload' will that change be saved on boot?
[22:47] <LAcan> like if i reboot it will stick to the reloaded settings or whatever?
[22:48] <LAcan> only one way to find out, lol
[22:48] <LAcan> brb
[22:54] <LAcan> TADOW! Success!
[22:54] <LAcan> my headphones no longer work, but fkit
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[22:57] <wizonesolutions> ho ho, Alsa, huh...I thought Ubuntu came with PulseAudio now? Or did they switch back?
[22:58] <MrChrisDruif> ....I just don't know wizonesolutions, but we always direct to alsamixer...I don't know if that's the same as alsa, might be it can also control pulseaudio?
[23:00] <canllaith> alsa is the underlying kernel-level driver
[23:00] <wizonesolutions2> Ah, I see.
[23:00] <canllaith> pulse audio is the replacement for the ESD that gnome-based desktops used to use
[23:02] <canllaith> It's a bit more complicated than that, as there's still OSS legacy applications, applications that want to use ALSA directly but then get directed to pulseaudio that then uses alsa for it's kernel interface...
[23:02] <LAcan> is firefox 4 a turd on lubuntu? I loaded it before but its pretty crusty...
[23:02] <canllaith> sound on Linux is a bit chaotic =)
[23:02] <canllaith> LAcan: it's great on ubuntu? I'm afraid I haven't done much with my lubuntu installation yet
[23:03] <LAcan> ya its awesome in.. gasp.. vista.. too
[23:03] <canllaith> trying to configure an 11" macbook air may have been a little ambitious for my first lubuntu install ^_^
[23:03] <LAcan> but on lubuntu it suxored bad especially compared to chrome... itd just be nice to use the sync between by 895 different devices
[23:03] <canllaith> Ah ok
[23:04] <canllaith> I only use firefox 4 at work, for personal stuff I use chrome so I'm afraid I'm not much help
[23:04] <canllaith> but our webmail & timesheeting app require ffox
[23:05] <LAcan> man, im so new i might just installed it wrong or been missing a dependency
[23:06] <canllaith> There's an ubuntu repository I used, that should also work on lubuntu
[23:06] <LAcan> ok on to the next thing.... how do i get transparencies to work on panels in the desktop? I have xcompmgr loaded
[23:07] <wizonesolutions2> Firefox 4 is awesome, eh? Reminds me...I gotta try it
[23:07] <LAcan> wizonesolutions, wont run firesheep tho, lol
[23:07] <wizonesolutions> Always cautious about upgrading cuz I'm a Web Developer so it's like...will I have my plugins :D
[23:07] <wizonesolutions> LAcan: Shame on you.
[23:08] <wizonesolutions> :D
[23:08] <canllaith> but caveat emptor and all that, it might not work as well
[23:08] <canllaith> LAcan: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[23:08] <LAcan> lolz. im only running lubuntu for one reason: raw packets lol
[23:08] <canllaith> That package is designed to replace your system firefox
[23:08] <canllaith> so if you need firefox 3.6 don't do it :)
[23:08] <LAcan> canllaith, what i did was install 3.6 from synaptics and then upgraded to 4.0
[23:08] <canllaith> ah ok
[23:14] <LAcan> wow, i added that launchpad repository to synaptics.. beautiful! im learning so much stuff today!
[23:19] <LAcan> how can I get panel transparency to work in lxde?
[23:21]  * canllaith is afraid she can't help with that one
[23:22] <canllaith> Well, actually I can
[23:22] <canllaith> if you're using xcompmgr, you can do it from the command line using xcompmgr set
[23:22] <canllaith> sorry, transset
[23:23] <canllaith> You can type 'transset .25' and then click on the panel, for example
[23:23] <canllaith> that will set the panel to 75% transparency (25% opacity) although you probably want to use something more like .75, come to think of it
[23:23] <canllaith> but there may be a better way within LXDE itself
[23:24]  * canllaith hopes that wasn't X crashing
[23:28] <canllaith> welcome back
[23:28] <LAcan> note to self, xcompmgr does not like being stopped
[23:29] <canllaith> LAcan: have you seen this thread? http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=412&f=8
[23:30] <LAcan> hrmm no but thx for the link
[23:30] <LAcan> lxpanel preferences... where do i find that?
[23:30] <canllaith> right-click on the panel it seems
[23:31] <LAcan> ya, if its what i think it is i already enabled trasnparency to no avail
[23:31] <canllaith> :(
[23:32] <LAcan> i was thinking its an opengl thing.. like using my nvidia on the desktop
[23:33] <LAcan> cuz if u look in that screenshot, his panel is transparent... mine are always opaque
[23:34] <LAcan> have u ever messed with compiz?
[23:34] <canllaith> Not for years. Most distributions do that kind of thing out of the box now so I'm very out of date on how to tinker with the underpinnings.
[23:35] <LAcan> well i might as well give it a go, cuz this is making me mental
[23:39] <LAcan> hrmm on one of these forums it points tp pcmanfm being the problem
[23:40] <LAcan> im assumin nitrogen replaces pcmanfm?
[23:43] <LAcan> dfsf
[23:43] <LAcan> dfdsf
[23:45] <LAcan> is replacing pcmanfm a good idea?