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| ndec | ogra_: hi | 07:33 |
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| ndec | ogra_: have you seen the messages on pandaboard google groups? some folks report that headless image don't work with 8Gb or 16Gb, but work with 4Gb? | 07:33 |
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| ogra_ | ndec, whats the bug number? and did they attach the jasper.log ? | 10:12 |
| * ogra_ hasnt heard of any errors with 8/16G cards yet | 10:13 | |
| ppisati | qemu + u-boot = fail | 10:23 |
| lool | ppisati: Nah | 10:27 |
| lool | ppisati: Which u-boot? | 10:27 |
| doko | ogra_, janimo: shrink-wrap came up again on today's linaro call. looks like it should be disabled for the natty release, or at least for -updates | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | shrink-wrap ? | 12:04 |
| lool | doko: michaelh submitted a branch to disable it by default | 12:04 |
| lool | doko: In gcc-linaro | 12:04 |
| lool | doko: Not sure you will have the chance to integrate this though | 12:04 |
| lool | https://code.launchpad.net/~michaelh1/gcc-linaro/disable-shrink-wrap/+merge/58055 | 12:04 |
| doko | lool: it's already in gcc-4.5 for all archs but armel | 12:06 |
| lool | doko: Okay | 12:07 |
| ogra_ | doko, well, throw it in if you can, if you cant throw it in updates :) | 12:09 |
| ogra_ | (as if we had a choice :P just do it :) ) | 12:09 |
| janimo | doko, sounds fine | 12:19 |
| janimo | doko, not sure what other packages are affected and will remain so without a rebuild | 12:20 |
| doko | janimo: right, but you can't rebuild everything :-/ | 12:22 |
| janimo | sure, disabling is better then leaving the optimization on, I was just wondering aloud :) | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | we can rebuild in -updates if needed i think | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | in case we run into other issues | 12:23 |
| janimo | sure. The more serious issues are identified as bugs already, the remaining ones are less used universe packages | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | btw, what was with that banshee bug ? | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | tobin said we need to disable something to make it eat less cpu | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | is anyone on top of that ? | 12:26 |
| janimo | ogra_, no idea re banshee | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 12:26 |
| * ogra_ digs his bugmail | 12:26 | |
| janimo | I remember rsalveti noticing much higher CPU usage than with rhythmbox and mpg123 | 12:26 |
| janimo | but I have no other info | 12:26 |
| janimo | 20% 10% and 3% CPU IIRC | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | there was an option that you can disable but i cant find a bug | 12:27 |
| janimo | I know!! Let's allow mono to take advantage of dual cores. It should make that CPU usage better :D | 12:27 |
| janimo | disable what? Does it do something extra for mp3 which is optional? | 12:28 |
| janimo | does it not use gstreamer? | 12:28 |
| ogra_ | there is a lib or something you can disable that significantly drops the cpu usage | 12:28 |
| ogra_ | lets wait for GrueMaster or rsalveti, i think they already looked into it | 12:29 |
| janimo | LDFLAGS -= -lbloat | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | lol | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | the discussion sounded more like a runtime thing | 12:29 |
| janimo | banshee has a lot of plugins linked in (lots of configure options anyway), could be one of those | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | yep | 12:30 |
| * ogra_ goes back to bang his head against pulse | 12:31 | |
| ogra_ | life was so easy when we only had esound :P | 12:32 |
| hrw | esound? I had artsd | 12:51 |
| * ogra_ curses | 13:11 | |
| ogra_ | so adding the one missing patch to pulse breaks everything again | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | thats just depressing | 13:13 |
| ndec | ogra_: no LP report, just discussion on google group: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/c2287d603dc325e0 | 13:20 |
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| ogra_ | ndec, well, i cant do much without logs, we didnt have any such errors when testing with various cards | 13:25 |
| ndec | ogra_: ok. i just wanted to make sure you've seen this. at least 2 persons have had this problem and reported on the panda mailing list. | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | that guy definitely trashed it by rebooting in the middle of the resize process | 13:26 |
| ndec | ogra_: well he said he waited 1 hour before rebooting | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | well, i need the jasper.log, cant say anything without | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | it might well be that there was a regression in the dailies, he should definitely try the beta2 instead | 13:30 |
| * ogra_ sighs ... | 13:35 | |
| ogra_ | really doesnt look like that sound stuff will work at all | 13:35 |
| ogra_ | :( | 13:35 |
| ogra_ | ndec, do you know if your sound people actually use the ubuntu kernel ? | 13:46 |
| ndec | ogra_: yes. at least this is what i ask... | 13:46 |
| ogra_ | weird | 13:47 |
| * ogra_ doesnt get why it doesnt work then | 13:48 | |
| lool | ndec: I took today's OMAP preinstalled image and dd-ed it to three files of sizes 2 G, 4 G and 8 G, and started qemu-linaro with -M beaglexm -m 512 -sd <file> on all three; both the 2G and 4G instances booted up to d-i (after resizing and rebooting), I'm waiting on the 8G still (no error so far); this is not enough to conclude that there is no problem though, as physical cards don't have exact multiples of Gs, but relatively random sizes | 14:09 |
| ndec | lool: i am sure the images work most of the times... my point was just to highlight to ogra_ that sometimes they don't... that might very well be 'local' issues.. | 14:13 |
| lool | ndec: it might be local, or it might be partitioning logic with specific input sizes | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | well, it might take longer on bigger cards | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | i must admit that i didnt test with more than 8G though my 8G card behaved fine | 14:13 |
| * ogra_ hopes btrfs images in oneric will make our life easier here | 14:14 | |
| lool | You decided to go with btrfs? | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | we will investigate | 14:14 |
| lool | Did you try it out so far? | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | afaik the big probs left wrt btrfs are bootloaders | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | which doesnt affect us | 14:15 |
| ogra_ | lool, not yet, but we have spec plans for it | 14:15 |
| * ogra_ is to busy with release to try out new stuff atm | 14:15 | |
| lool | I wouldn't have too high hopes that it will help | 14:15 |
| lool | Performance on a panda + btrfs rootfs has been terrible here, much worse than extN | 14:15 |
| ogra_ | its like a deja vu ... last release i spent the last weeks on omap4 sound ... this release too | 14:16 |
| lool | and I had to fix some issues in natty before that would even boot without error | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | lool, even if you aling properly and use the ssd option ? | 14:16 |
| lool | Yes | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | *align | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | hrm | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | i would love nilfs2 ... but it has no resize function yet | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | so far it was far beyond all other FSes on SD in all comparisons i have seen | 14:17 |
| ogra_ | on the ac100 it seems to double up the access speed | 14:17 |
| lool | ndec: FTR, the 8 G image also booted up to the config screen | 14:30 |
| lool | Now it would be interesting to try with uneven sizes, but QEMU might not be ideal for this | 14:30 |
| rsalveti | morning | 14:32 |
| rsalveti | ogra: janimo: bug 760902 | 14:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 760902 in banshee "Banshee's Library Watcher should be disabled by default in Ubuntu 11.04" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760902 | 14:34 |
| ppisati | kexec is really broken :( | 14:34 |
| janimo | rsalveti, so it is not arm specific | 14:35 |
| rsalveti | nops | 14:35 |
| ogra | ah, i thought you only saw it on arm | 14:38 |
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| * ogra_ goes for his 3rd pulseaudio build today | 15:37 | |
| lil_pete | lol | 15:43 |
| GrueMaster | Morning. I see rsalveti posted the banshee bug. I actually didn't see much improvement w/o the libarary watcher, but I was only able to test on my beagleXM. | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, well, its fine, its not armel alone so i dont care much | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | i thought it was arch specific | 15:53 |
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| ogra_ | rsalveti, can you point phh to the compiz gles stuff ? | 16:26 |
| * ogra_ forgot where it was, some upstream git tree iirc | 16:26 | |
| phh | (the sources, i'm still on maverick.) | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | or Amaranth ^^^ | 16:26 |
| Amaranth | http://git.compiz.org/~amaranth/mobilebling/ | 16:27 |
| Amaranth | Still working on the plugins | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | its just to test it on tegra graphics | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | Ah, ok | 16:28 |
| phh | Amaranth: just tell me some features that are supposed to work :p | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | drawing windows and frames :P | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | so compile and install that then run `compiz --replace composite opengl move resize decor` to get a basic window manager running | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | Although all the plugins that get compiled in there should work | 16:29 |
| phh | ok | 16:29 |
| Amaranth | The plugins-main pack is still being worked on, I thought I had it done then discovered weird things were happening | 16:29 |
| Amaranth | The plugin pack is still compiling against regular GL and when running if it tries to make a regular GL call that function just gets skipped | 16:30 |
| Amaranth | Weirdest thing ever, I would have expected a symbol error | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | blame the toolchain :P | 16:30 |
| Amaranth | So I haven't published it yet, even though most of it actually works | 16:30 |
| Amaranth | I've got the build system putting the proper defines in the pkg-config file now at least but the plugin pack seems to ignore that anyway | 16:31 |
| phh | Amaranth: would you mind adding a vendor string matching for image_pixmap extension ? nVidia doesn't declare it, even though they have it | 17:40 |
| Amaranth | phh: ? | 17:41 |
| Amaranth | nvidia doesn't report supporting the standard one but only their own version? | 17:42 |
| phh | no | 17:42 |
| phh | they don't report anything concerning this thing | 17:42 |
| phh | but they do support the extension | 17:42 |
| Amaranth | *headdesk* | 17:43 |
| phh | :) | 17:43 |
| Amaranth | phh: Do they at least properly report support for GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888 or should I add a workaround for that too? | 17:43 |
| Amaranth | I need to add one of those for the efika anyway, the current workaround only works if you compile on the efika with their headers | 17:44 |
| phh | they report GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888 | 17:45 |
| Amaranth | phh: What are the EGL_VENDOR and GL_RENDERER for that system? | 17:46 |
| phh | GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation | 17:47 |
| phh | GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA Tegra | 17:47 |
| phh | Amaranth: so, compiz doesn't crash, but no alt-tab (I guess I'm missing some missing files), and I've got double buffering problem (like on kwin) | 17:48 |
| phh | basically, when there are updates, only part of the buffer are updated and only on the current buffer, the second buffer doesn't get the update | 17:49 |
| ndec | cd | 17:49 |
| lool | ndec: ~ | 17:51 |
| ndec | rm -rf / | 17:51 |
| lool | ndec: rm: il est dangereux d'opérer récursivement sur «/» | 17:53 |
| lool | rm: utilisez --no-preserve-root pour inhiber cette mesure de sûreté | 17:53 |
| Amaranth | phh: alt-tab doesn't work because you didn't load a plugin for it :) | 17:58 |
| Amaranth | I'll have to see what was done for kwin as far as the other problem, I remember seeing something about it | 17:58 |
| phh | iirc it hasn't been fixed yet :s | 17:58 |
| Amaranth | Hmm, I could have sworn jazh had a fix committed for it | 17:59 |
| phh | in screen.cpp, line 1268, doing mask=COMPOSITE_SCREEN_DAMAGE_ALL_MASK works | 17:59 |
| phh | but hum. | 17:59 |
| phh | Amaranth: loadign switcher is supposed to work ? | 18:00 |
| phh | compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'compiztoolbox' not loaded. | 18:00 |
| phh | compiz (core) - Error: InitPlugin 'switcher' failed | 18:00 |
| phh | compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'switcher' | 18:00 |
| phh | compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'compiztoolbox' not loaded. | 18:00 |
| phh | ah I have to load it by hand before switcher ? | 18:00 |
| Amaranth | Right | 18:01 |
| phh | ok. fine. | 18:01 |
| phh | interesting. | 18:01 |
| Amaranth | That's not the normal switcher we use but it should work | 18:03 |
| Amaranth | Although I think I may have broken the icon loading, I need to go back in and put a proper RGBA->BGRA conversion in | 18:03 |
| phh | what switcher should I use ? | 18:03 |
| phh | I agree it's kind of buggy :p | 18:04 |
| Amaranth | The normal switcher is in plugins-main | 18:04 |
| Amaranth | Which I've spent about a week fighting cmake over | 18:04 |
| phh | ok | 18:04 |
| Amaranth | I basically have to somewhat drastically change the plugin build system in order to get plugins-main to pick up on the fact we're using GLES | 18:04 |
| phh | so, the bugs I have, two out of 3 windows are overbrightnessed or something like that | 18:05 |
| phh | (could be because of the hack I just added) | 18:05 |
| Amaranth | Which hack? | 18:05 |
| phh | mask=blabla | 18:05 |
| Amaranth | panda and efika don't have such a problem (although I suppose it's hard to tell with efika considering the other issues there) | 18:05 |
| phh | alt-tab has black windows, until windows are refreshed | 18:05 |
| Amaranth | Weird... | 18:06 |
| phh | icons are black too | 18:06 |
| phh | all these problems could be because of my hack :D sec I test without it. | 18:06 |
| Amaranth | The icons are expected | 18:07 |
| phh | ok, still same bugs without my hack | 18:11 |
| phh | Amaranth: would it sounds stupid if it does the sum of the two last frames ? | 18:11 |
| Amaranth | I can't think of why that would happen | 18:11 |
| Amaranth | That doesn't sound like something I'd do accidentally, anyway | 18:12 |
| phh | only app that isn't disturbed is the terminal which uses alpha channel ... | 18:15 |
| GrueMaster | Looks like do-release-update May be a bad idea for our images. Took 3 days (largely due to user prompts for config file overwrites) and X fails to come up afterwards. Looking into the issues now. | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | Also, this will fail to get any x-loader & u-boot updates. | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | (which is why I recommend that they be installed as packages). | 18:50 |
| === GrueMaster changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | cross build ? http://42.pl/u/2u8U | Natty Beta 2 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/beta-2/| Ideas for Oneric | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OneiricObjectives | ||
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. I had two pandas running do-release-upgrade over the weekend. My 8G failed for unknown reasons (looks like it may have had the pvr drivers for maverick installed prior to upgrade). The 16G SD upgraded fine. | 21:38 |
| GrueMaster | Although the partition label for the boot partition was deleted. | 21:39 |
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