[09:12]  * Tanvir pokes tarunno
[09:12] <tarunno> Tanvir, ki hoise?
[09:13] <Tanvir> কিছু হয় নাই, খোচা দিলাম আর কি।
[09:13] <tarunno> ক্যান? খুচান ক্যান?
[09:13] <tarunno> খুচা দেয়া ভালা না
[09:13] <Tanvir> শাবাব ভাই, আপনি কোন ক্লায়েন্ট ইউজ করতেছেন?
[09:13] <tarunno> আল্লাহ গুনাহ দিবে
[09:13] <tarunno> xchat
[09:13] <Tanvir> আপনারে দেখলাম তাই খোচা দিলাম। আইআরসিতে খোচা মারন একটা ট্র্যাডিশন।
[09:14] <Tanvir> এখানে সবাই সবাইরে কারণ বিনা খোচায়।
[09:14] <Tanvir> শাবাব ভাই, আমাদের তিনটা চ্যানেলরে বুকমার্ক কইরা নেন। আপনে যখন আসেন, তবে থাকেন।
[09:14] <Tanvir> #wikimedia-bd ; #wikipedia-bn ; #cvn-bn-scan
[09:14] <tarunno> কি চ্যানেল?
[09:15] <Tanvir> লিস্ট দিলাম উপ্রে।
[09:15] <tarunno> cvn টা আবার কি?
[09:15] <Tanvir> কাউন্টার ভ্যান্ডালিজক নেটওয়ার্ক।
[09:15] <Tanvir> এই চ্যানেলে সকল বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার পরিবর্তনগুলো বট দ্বারা রিফুটিত হয়।
[09:16] <Tanvir> সেই রিফুট দেখে আমরা ভ্যান্ডালিজম ট্র্যাক করতে পারি।
[09:17] <Tanvir> আপনি ঢোকেন আপনারে আমি দেখাই রিপোর্টি। কিছুক্ষণ থাকলে অবশ্য এমনেই দেখতে পাবেন।
[09:52] <tuhin> hi all
[09:55] <tuhin> hi tarunno 
[09:55] <tarunno> hello
[09:56] <tuhin> i think i saw u in projanmo forum
[09:57] <tuhin> 1st time trying to talk to someone in this channel
[09:58] <tuhin> i am having problem to type some words in Avro keyboard 
[09:58] <tarunno> I see!
[09:58] <tarunno> what problem?
[09:59] <tuhin> how to type  some combination of words?
[09:59] <tuhin> is there any example page anywhere?
[09:59] <tuhin> too many words actually
[09:59] <Tanvir> Avro phonetic tuhin?
[09:59] <tuhin> yes
[10:00] <tuhin> hi tanvir
[10:00] <tuhin> where are u 2 from ? Dhaka?
[10:00] <Tanvir> There are documentation on Omicron's site I think.
[10:00] <Tanvir> tuhin, hello, and yes, we both from Dhaka.
[10:00] <tuhin> i couldnt find any for linux
[10:00] <tuhin> using ubuntu10.10 based Mint10 
[10:01] <Tanvir> I don't use Avro, but I think, phonetic key layout is same for Linux and Windows.
[10:01] <tuhin> windows have click to type system
[10:01] <tuhin> its easy to type evthing in windows
[10:01] <tuhin> but linux have no click to type....
[10:03] <Tanvir> Mm. Sorry tuhin, my knowledge is very limited about this, I hope tarunno will succeed. :)
[10:03] <tuhin> so its hard to type by guessing
[10:03] <tuhin> thanks for trying Tanvir
[10:03] <Tanvir> :)
[10:03] <tuhin> which area in dhaka u 2 live?
[10:04] <tuhin> I am from Khilgao
[10:05] <tuhin> i see people with T as starting alphabet in name comes and talks here :)
[10:06] <tarunno> tuhin, can you please specify what kind of problem are you facing 
[10:06] <tuhin> like trying to type  "Joggo bakti"
[10:07] <tuhin> bakti is easy but joggo is not
[10:09] <tuhin> i have tried and succeeded in typing some other words ... but frequently get stuck somewhere
[10:10] <tuhin> so i need a example which tell abt all hard words/aphabets
[10:11] <tarunno> you need to try to feel the phonetic while you are tying
[10:11] <tarunno> typing
[10:11] <tarunno> j is more similar to জ 
[10:11] <tuhin> yes thats ho i did so far
[10:11] <tuhin> i tried both j and z 
[10:11] <tarunno> while Z is for য 
[10:11] <tuhin> did u succeed typing joggo?
[10:12] <tuhin> i typed Jo fine  ts the later part whcih is hard
[10:12] <tarunno> like যোগ্য ব্যক্তি? 
[10:12] <tuhin> JO   ggo
[10:12] <tuhin> yes
[10:12] <tarunno> yes I do
[10:12] <tuhin> how did u type joggo?
[10:13] <tuhin> tell me the key combination
[10:19] <tarunno> oh, I am sorry
[10:19] <tarunno> actually I am in office now
[10:19] <tarunno> can't concentrate well
[10:19] <tarunno> you need the combination?
[10:19] <tuhin> no problem
[10:19] <tuhin> yes
[10:20] <tuhin> having problem abt the last part of  "Joggo"
[10:32] <tarunno> tuhin, try zoggZ
[10:32] <tuhin> ok thanks
[10:34] <tuhin> zOgZ   workd
[10:34] <tuhin> its the   Z at last of zOgZ  that worked 
[10:34] <tuhin> thanks for the hint tarunno 
[10:45] <tuhin> how to type "khondotto" alphabet?
[10:45] <tuhin> the word is "bolboth"
[10:51] <tarunno> type tt`
[10:52] <tuhin> ok , how to type "shoyonkriyo"
[10:54] <tuhin> couldn't type bolboth  
[10:59] <tarunno> swyonkriyo
[11:00] <tuhin> স্ব্যঙ্ক্রিয়  <i got this
[11:00] <tuhin> i have decided to go try in winxp now :(
[11:01] <tarunno> wait
[11:01] <tuhin> thanks a lot for helping tarunno 
[11:01] <tuhin> i m here
[11:02] <tarunno> let me try to find you something 
[11:02] <tuhin> will use winxp from another pc
[11:02] <tarunno> actually I use probhat in both Win and Lin
[11:03] <tuhin> xchat will be connected   i will come back after 20min (i m hungry)
[11:03] <tarunno> there is a layout help for Avro phonetic
[11:03] <tuhin> i couldnt find it
[11:03] <tarunno> sure thing 
[11:03] <tuhin> provat layout doesnt match with the bijoy layout printed on my keyboard
[11:04] <tarunno> Probhat is a different layout
[11:04] <tuhin> yes i saw it in keyboard setting
[11:18] <tarunno> http://anupplanet.com/u/i/images/avroponeti.png
[11:18] <tarunno> here
[11:51] <tuhin> thanks tarunno . did u upload that for me?
[11:51] <tarunno> not me
[11:51] <tarunno> requested someone and he did
[11:52] <tuhin> thanks a lot 
[11:52] <tarunno> what's you Email ID?
[11:52] <tuhin> whom did u request and where?
[11:52] <tuhin> tuhin001@hotmail.com
[11:53] <tarunno> it was a personal request
[11:53] <tuhin> what is ur email?
[11:53] <tarunno> please check your mail
[11:53] <tuhin> where ?
[11:53] <tuhin> where u posted the PM?
[11:55] <tarunno> it's not a PM
[11:55] <tarunno> it was a IM request
[11:55] <tarunno> personal thing
[11:56] <tarunno> for help you can go http://omicronlab.com/community
[11:56] <tuhin> ic
[11:56] <tarunno> my bad
[11:57] <tarunno> it should be http://www.omicronlab.com/forum
[11:59] <tuhin> i searched there but didn't see this kind of layout pic
[11:59] <tuhin> is that ur email id u sent from ? or ur friend?
[12:00] <tarunno> mine
[12:04] <tuhin> which linux u r using ?
[12:05] <tuhin> I am using Linux Mint 10 Gnome (Ubuntu 10.10 based )
[12:06] <tarunno> lucid
[12:06] <tuhin> 9.10 ?
[12:06] <tuhin> i m not familier with code names :)
[12:07] <tuhin> ic lucid is 10.04 Lts
[12:12] <tarunno> yes 10.04
[12:12] <tarunno> ok, tuhin, it was nice talking to you
[12:12] <tarunno> actually I need to go now
[12:12] <tarunno> see you later
[12:13] <tuhin> ok bye 
[19:02] <tarunno> hello tuhin 
[19:04] <tuhin> hi tarunno  :)
[19:04] <tarunno> have you got my mail I just sent?
[19:04] <tuhin> ur pdf file and that layout pic helped a lot
[19:04] <tarunno> poke: Tanvir 
[19:04] <tuhin> u sent another NOW?
[19:05] <tarunno> yes, like 10 mins bedore
[19:05] <tarunno> before*
[19:05] <Tanvir> tarunno, aye.
[19:05] <tuhin> hm , so we 3 T's r here....
[19:05] <tarunno> an updated version of the help PDF has been added to the project homepage of scim-avro
[19:06] <tuhin> yes just noticed
[19:07] <tuhin> it wasn't there before? i was looking for help in THAT page and found nothing before
[19:07] <tarunno> nope 
[19:07] <tarunno> added 1 hour ago
[19:07] <tuhin> nice
[19:07] <tarunno> Tanvir, what is the command for poking ?
[19:07] <tuhin> u r part of avro team?
[19:07] <tarunno> tuhin, :)
[19:08] <Tanvir> tarunno, no command actually, just mention the nick.
[19:08] <Tanvir> Receiver will get a beep and will be poked. :P
[19:08] <Tanvir> Beep is the poke.
[19:08] <tarunno> but at noon xchat on Linux was showing Tanvir has poked you 
[19:08] <tuhin> also highlited in blue+system tray flashing !!!
[19:08] <tarunno> :0
[19:09] <tuhin> so, tarunno is part of avro team?
[19:09] <Tanvir> tarunno, weired, I tired this, "/me pokes tarunno" <-- That's what poked you.
[19:10] <tarunno> tuhin, yes
[19:10] <tuhin> wow, nice, why don't the BD communities join IRC more?
[19:10]  * tarunno laughing out loud to Tanvir 
[19:10] <Tanvir> Yeah, but why?
[19:11]  * tuhin pokes Tanvir 
[19:11]  * Tanvir is poked
[19:11] <tuhin> hmm
[19:12]  * tuhin wonders why bangaladeshis doesn't use IRC 
[19:12] <tarunno> the major problem of IRC for BD people is we talk too much
[19:12] <tuhin> lol tarunno  why u think so?
[19:13] <tarunno> I don't think so, I know so frm past exp.
[19:13] <tuhin> if we really talk too much then IRC channels should be crowded!
[19:13] <tarunno> we used to fo meetings in IRCs
[19:13] <tuhin> where was that past exp? which channel?
[19:13] <tarunno> and after 4 hrs of talking we ends up our meeting with zero decission 
[19:14] <tuhin> ic
[19:14] <tarunno> which channel ?
[19:14] <tarunno> the very same channel where we taliking now
[19:14] <tarunno> :P
[19:14] <tuhin> which channel u have been wher eit was crowded with linux users?
[19:14] <tarunno> and also wikimedia-bd channel
[19:14] <tuhin> hmm
[19:14] <tarunno> but there situation were a bit diff.
[19:15] <tuhin> i also join #linuxmint-bd evtiem i open xchat
[19:15] <tarunno> thr we had one or two fruitful meetings
[19:15] <tarunno> is ayon online there?
[19:15] <tuhin> he is there sometimes
[19:16] <tuhin> i talked with him couple of time
[19:16] <tuhin> how many developers was in those fruitless meetings?
[19:16] <tuhin> were*
[19:17] <tarunno> developers?
[19:17] <tarunno> nope
[19:17] <tarunno> it was member's meeting
[19:18] <tuhin> avro members= developers of avro right?
[19:18] <tarunno> this channel is the official channel of Ubuntu Bangladesh
[19:18] <tarunno> not OmicronLab :)
[19:19] <tuhin> hmm
[19:19] <tarunno> in omicronlab we use forum or mail to discuss things
[19:19] <tuhin> there should be a single IRC for linux user in bd
[19:19] <tuhin> users*
[19:19] <tarunno> we do have
[19:20] <tuhin> this one?
[19:20] <tarunno> don't you know?
[19:20] <tarunno> #blua
[19:20] <tuhin> that channel is also empty
[19:21] <tarunno> yes
[19:21] <tuhin> when i visit these irc , i feel like there is no linux user in bd 
[19:21] <tarunno> right now the linux enthusiast of BD having a lull 
[19:21] <tarunno> IRC is not a popular culture here
[19:21] <tuhin> ubuntu, mint blua   all r empty
[19:22] <tuhin> btw u use linux at office too?
[19:22] <tuhin> what abt u Tanvir 
[19:22] <tarunno> yes I do
[19:22] <tuhin> nice, IT related job?
[19:22] <Tanvir> tuhin, I am in Ubuntu 10.10.
[19:22] <tarunno> and right now I am using Win7 :P
[19:23] <tuhin> hmm i m from Mint10 Gnome
[19:23] <tarunno> had a gift from one of my friend
[19:23] <tuhin> Mint is the best :)
[19:23] <tarunno> so, thought let's see what's in it
[19:23] <tarunno> tuhin, how many distros have you tried so far?
[19:24] <tuhin> Redhat , knoppix, puppy, kubuntu, mepis, debian, Mint10 ....
[19:24] <tarunno> Tanvir, cvn-bn-scan seems busy, is it the natural?
[19:24] <tuhin> none got my attention for long
[19:25] <tarunno> kubuntu didn't get your attention? 
[19:25] <tarunno> I see!
[19:25] <Tanvir> tarunno, when more edits, more reports. :)
[19:25] <tuhin> but using Mint 10 Gnome exclusively for 4.5 month now
[19:25] <tuhin> it was long time ago kubuntu 6.10
[19:25] <Tanvir> Currently, I am editing a lot. Fixing a gadget.
[19:26] <tarunno> Tanvir, I see!
[19:26] <tuhin> what at u 2 , which distros u have used so far?
[19:26] <tarunno> tuhin, KDE came far way
[19:26] <tuhin> at-about
[19:26] <tuhin> i m not after eye candy
[19:26] <tarunno> ok
[19:26] <tuhin> i want my PC snappy=quick
[19:27] <tuhin> i use LXDE With Mint10 instead of Gnome sometimes
[19:27] <tarunno> I see!
[19:27] <tuhin> which distros u 2 have used so far?
[19:29] <tarunno> RH, Fedora, Ubuntu, Puppy, Knopixx, Open Suse, CentOS, DSL, kolibri,Mint
[19:30] <tarunno> debian
[19:30] <tarunno> and some derivatives of Ubuntu
[19:30] <tuhin> wow, i didnt use the other linux much
[19:30] <tuhin> which mint version u tried?
[19:30] <tarunno> 8, 9, 10
[19:31] <tarunno> but I am a steady Ubuntu Lucid user
[19:31] <tuhin> hmm then why use Ubuntu instead of mint?
[19:31] <tarunno> Ubuntu is my thing, that's why
[19:31] <tuhin> Mint 9 is based on Ubuntu 10.04'..
[19:31] <tarunno> yes
[19:31] <tarunno> it is
[19:31] <tuhin> i plan to use mint10 till Mint 13 LTS Comes 
[19:32] <tarunno> ok
[19:33] <tuhin> why u like ubuntu more than mint?
[19:33] <tarunno> may be something like why you prefer Mint over Ubuntu ;)
[19:34] <tuhin> hmm , confusing answer 
[19:35] <tarunno> ha ha ha
[19:37] <tuhin> welcome kazi  :)
[19:37]  * tarunno welcomes kazi 
[19:38] <kazi> hey thank you brother
[19:38] <tuhin> i invited kazi  here from linuxmint main irc
[19:39] <tuhin> so we now have 4 "Humans" and 4 "Bots" in this irc
[19:39] <kazi> tuhin: brother you've done a great job bringing me to this channel
[19:41] <tuhin> also tarunno said #blua channel is for ALL  BD linux users
[19:44] <kazi> So how to reach #blua channel?
[19:45] <tuhin> same way u reached this one
[19:45] <tuhin> http://www.linux.org.bd  has expired it seems  :|
[19:45] <Tanvir> Good night fellows.
[19:46] <tuhin> bye Tanvir 
[19:49] <tuhin> why the linux avro deb isn't updated?
[19:51] <kazi> There an accident was happened to linux.org.bd site
[19:51] <kazi> This site has been hacked by a hacker
[19:51] <tuhin> lol kazi 
[19:51] <tuhin> tarunno: ^^^
[19:52] <tuhin> kazi: lets introduce u with tarunno , a brilliant patriot and programmer of Bangladesh
[19:53] <kazi> wow
[19:53] <tuhin> he is part of avro team and helped me BIG today 
[19:53] <kazi> great!
[19:54] <kazi> Is he active in this channel?
[19:54] <tuhin> yes
[19:54] <tuhin> also Tanvir is active
[19:54] <tuhin> i think ALL linux users should use Single irc channel instead of  4-5 channels
[19:56] <tuhin> that way the community will be alive like linuxmint irc
[19:56] <kazi> you are absolutely right
[20:01] <tarunno> at linuxmint IRC people from all around the world joins
[20:01] <tarunno> just like right now I am in ubuntu channel
[20:01] <tarunno> ;)
[20:01] <tuhin> yes , we need single irc whre all BD linux users will join
[20:02] <tarunno> so naturally the crowd is bigge at those places
[20:02] <tuhin> yes i know, i m suggesting how to make the BD linux user community more active/alive
[20:03] <tarunno> they were alive
[20:03] <tarunno> and also active 
[20:03] <tuhin> 4-5 irc channels just divides the few users ...............
[20:03] <tarunno> but some unfortunate thing happend and they got scatted again
[20:03] <tuhin> now what happened?
[20:03] <tuhin> what is that unfortunate thing?
[20:04] <tarunno> by our national nature, we cannot handle big things much
[20:04] <tarunno> that's the prob
[20:05] <tarunno> at a point we all become leaders
[20:05] <tarunno> and if we fail on that
[20:05] <tarunno> we try to destroy
[20:05] <tarunno> that is the thing happend 
[20:05] <tarunno> last year we had a huge event
[20:06] <tuhin> hmm, problem/misunderstanding happened because of Linux Event?
[20:06] <tuhin> yes , bontu mintur adda
[20:06] <tarunno> biggest envnt in BD about linux
[20:06] <kazi> tarunno: Hello Sir! How are you?
[20:06] <tarunno> that event was a big hit 
[20:06] <tuhin> yes i saw the pic of that event
[20:07] <tarunno> it gave the whole linux thing a huge momentum
[20:07] <tuhin> tarunno: kazi is my friend , i introduced him to this irc channel
[20:07] <tuhin> then what happened?
[20:07] <tarunno> hello kazi, how are you doing?
[20:07] <tarunno> kazi: alhamdulillah, I am doing fine
[20:08] <kazi> I'm learning linux day by day
[20:08] <kazi> Everything is fine
[20:08] <tarunno> then some leader became autocratic 
[20:08] <tarunno> some became inflamous
[20:08] <kazi> I'm enjoying linux much better than before
[20:08] <tarunno> I became busy with my business
[20:09] <tarunno> and within 8-9 months we reached a place worse than the begining 
[20:09] <tuhin> what the autocratic leaders did/tried to do?
[20:09] <tuhin> sounds depressing
[20:09] <tarunno> tuhin, where have you watched the pics of Bontu Mintur Adda?
[20:10] <tuhin> from linux mint community site
[20:10] <tarunno> tuhin, doing something wrong is not the problem
[20:11] <tarunno> the major problem is our behaviour after that
[20:11] <tarunno> we all are human being
[20:11] <tarunno> and we all can do mistakes
[20:11] <tuhin> yes and we should try to forgive the mistakes
[20:12] <tuhin> and they started fighting?
[20:12] <tarunno> but we have a lame and self-destructing culture of salting on imflamation
[20:12] <tuhin> আগুনে ঘি ধালা 
[20:13] <tuhin> ঃ| 
[20:13] <tarunno> and in reverbation of that, the man who did something wrong started defend himself
[20:13] <kazi> Linux is more smart than Windows. So, linux users are more smart than windows users
[20:13] <tarunno> even if he knows he was wrong
[20:13] <tuhin> what wrong he did?
[20:13] <tarunno> because others makes it impossible to return for him
[20:14] <kazi> It's because of one's nature 
[20:14] <tarunno> I am getting sleepy
[20:15] <tarunno> it was nice talking to you guys
[20:15] <tarunno> Will meet you tomorrow
[20:15] <tarunno> goodnight
[20:15] <tuhin> ok , we will talk abt it next time
[20:15] <tuhin> bye tarunno 
[20:15] <tuhin> http://www.linuxmint.com/communities.php
[20:16] <kazi> tarunno: I get to know that the forum which one is hacked was popular for partiality and politics. Is that right?
[20:17] <kazi> tuhin: Goodnight!
[20:17] <tarunno> kazi, no comment
[20:17] <tuhin> which forum kazi ? i think u told me abt it but i forgot
[20:18] <kazi> forum.http://forum.linux.org.bd
[20:18] <kazi> It's may be
[20:18] <tuhin> hmm
[20:19] <kazi> tarunno: Now I'm typing Bengali rarely 
[20:20] <kazi> Because it's harder to type with Unijoy
[20:20] <kazi> I'm using Unijoy now
[20:20] <tuhin> kazi: tarunno has gone to sleep