=== zkriesse is now known as Guest44281 === Guest44281 is now known as zkriesse [00:51] is ubuntu desktop that installed with netbook edition the full blown version? [00:52] UbuntuN00b1: i think you can just choose between them [00:52] at login [00:52] used to be that way [00:52] yeah it is [00:52] i'm just curious if the desktop edition is the full version [00:52] or if its a light build or something [00:52] it *should* be vanilla [00:52] at that point [00:53] vanilla [00:53] ? [00:53] the normal version :) [00:54] ah [00:54] thanks guys [00:55] this chan has been sweet for my b00b skills [00:55] haha [00:55] err n00b [00:55] although i could use b00b skills [00:55] lol [00:58] :D [00:58] Hmmm... [00:58] I don't know if that is nice :D [00:59] ? [00:59] b00b skills [00:59] obviously you have never been the recepient of good b00b skills [01:00] anyone want to recommend some must have programs for a linux n00b? [01:01] UbuntuN00b1: Depends on what you want to do :) [01:01] hmmm any why software centre is crashing in desktop edition [01:02] ohhhh ubuntu i want to love you but some days you make it so hard [01:03] USC worked in Netbook? [01:03] yup [01:04] And second try also failed? [01:04] yup [01:04] UbuntuN00b1: open a terminal [01:04] its pop up get the loading mouse thing and then it closes [01:04] kk [01:04] Did it say anything like an error message? [01:04] nope [01:04] and run [01:05] software-center [01:05] and *note the errors [01:05] if its just a line or 2 [01:05] you can paste it here [01:05] or use... [01:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [01:06] should it be "run software-center" [01:06] oh wait its centre [01:06] british/canadian styles [01:07] i' m not doing it right :( [01:07] should the command be "crun" ? [01:08] UbuntuN00b1: just open a terminal [01:08] yup [01:08] and in that terminal type : [01:08] software-center [01:09] ARNING:root:trying to fix not writable cache directory [01:09] ERROR:root:failed to fix not writable cache directory [01:09] Traceback (most recent call last): [01:09] File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/paths.py", line 31, in try_to_fixup_root_owned_dir_via_remove [01:09] os.rmdir(directory) [01:09] OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/home/liam/.cache/software-center' [01:09] Traceback (most recent call last): [01:09] File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 38, in [01:09] import softwarecenter.log [01:09] File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/log.py", line 94, in [01:09] backupCount=5) [01:09] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/handlers.py", line 112, in __init__ [01:09] BaseRotatingHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding, delay) [01:09] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/handlers.py", line 64, in __init__ [01:09] logging.FileHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding, delay) [01:09] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py", line 827, in __init__ [01:09] StreamHandler.__init__(self, self._open()) [01:09] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py", line 846, in _open [01:09] stream = open(self.baseFilename, self.mode) [01:09] IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/home/liam/.cache/software-center/software-center.log' [01:09] UbuntuN00b1: that would be more than a line or two [01:09] SO, in the future [01:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [01:09] soory [01:09] ^ [01:10] UbuntuN00b1: no worries :) [01:10] my bad [01:10] UbuntuN00b1: you still have permissions errors going on i think [01:10] not sure what you did [01:11] lol [01:11] i got stuff to install [01:11] after reboot [01:11] maybe i should just do a reinstall... [01:11] lame [01:11] UbuntuN00b1: well, i would suggest looking around [01:11] and trying to fix it first [01:11] you can learn something from the experience [01:11] thats true [01:11] and, if you are OK with reinstalling [01:11] you can always do that :) [01:12] all do some google work [01:12] as a last ditch effort [01:12] i would google WARNING:root:trying to fix not writable cache directory [01:12] maybe add ubuntu to it [01:12] and go from there [01:13] kk [01:21] hey holstein [01:21] can you check this out] [01:21] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/671054 [01:21] Launchpad bug 671054 in software-center "cannot start software center" [Undecided,Invalid] [01:21] make sure its the same problem [01:21] i think it is [01:21] before i go ahead and start deleating the files hehe [01:25] * holstein looking UbuntuN00b1 [01:25] thanks [01:25] UbuntuN00b1: yeah, i would do that [01:26] can i just del everything in the cache folder? [01:26] that looks like a very plausible fix [01:26] yeah, try and just grab it [01:26] A large section of your errors-logs match [01:26] and put it in the trash [01:26] you can always recover it that way [01:26] if needed [01:26] kk [01:27] but, i think that is going to do the trick, if you need to be more forceful [01:27] hmmm it doesn't want to move to trash just want to del [01:27] hehe i guess this is all or nothing [01:27] UbuntuN00b1: ? [01:28] nah [01:28] says can not move [01:28] and asks to deleate [01:28] you can sudo mv it [01:28] but, i would just delete it [01:28] kk [01:28] you're not going to break anything [01:28] I don't know why Kiwinote didn't just say to open nautilus in terminal with "gksudo nautilus ~/.cache/software-center" :P [01:28] MrChrisDruif: thats true [01:29] k should i reboot? [01:29] or just see if opens [01:29] Much shorter and more universal...everyone can use that [01:29] UbuntuN00b1: you shouldnt have to reboot [01:29] See if it opens [01:29] nope [01:29] it just closed again [01:29] :/ [01:30] let me try again [01:30] UbuntuN00b1: yeah, be sure you get the whole thing [01:30] all the hidden files [01:30] hmmmm [01:30] MrChrisDruif: i guess gksudo nautilus could really do some damage [01:31] its not deleating a bunch of files [01:31] i went in to the directory [01:31] UbuntuN00b1: thats going to be the deal then [01:31] and tried to drag all into trash [01:31] Yeah, but that's only if root is needed for that dir [01:32] should i go into each folder and deleat the files [01:32] leaving the folders in place [01:32] ? [01:32] UbuntuN00b1: you should try getting rid of everthing from /software-center down [01:32] kk [01:33] including /home/you/.cache/software-center [01:33] hmmm [01:33] its givng me that read only crap again [01:33] so it doesn't want to let me del [01:33] maybe i should reboot and see if i get write access back [01:33] and del [01:33] the files [01:33] Ahh...root rights holstein? [01:34] UbuntuN00b1: that is odd [01:34] you got something really odd going on [01:34] *ubuntu* where is the love [01:34] UbuntuN00b1: i would say, make another user account [01:34] log into it [01:34] and see if it acts funky [01:34] something funny has happened [01:34] UbuntuN00b1: we are spreading it as we speak O:-) [01:34] and i dont mean 'ha-ha' [01:34] haha too true [01:35] ok [01:35] lol [01:36] UbuntuN00b1: you could try "gksudo rm -r ~/.cache/software-center" [01:36] i'm not allowed to make modifications to the system [01:36] yeah, you cant even sudo right? [01:36] ill check [01:36] UbuntuN00b1: open a terminal [01:36] and run [01:37] sudo -s [01:37] you should get a root shell [01:37] it asked me for password and now i'm at root [01:37] UbuntuN00b1: GOOD [01:38] you capitals give me hope [01:38] hehe [01:38] lol [01:38] :D [01:38] try that command [01:38] gksudo rm -r ~/.cache/software-center ? [01:38] that one [01:38] rm -r ~/.cache/software-center [01:38] ah [01:38] you're already root [01:38] in theory [01:39] read only [01:39] ... [01:39] UbuntuN00b1: that is just odd [01:39] lol i feel so odd [01:39] UbuntuN00b1: what is the error line? [01:39] sec [01:39] lets google that too [01:39] rm: cannot remove `/home/liam/.cache/software-center/software-center-agent.db/value.DB': Read-only file system [01:40] ther a bunch like that for each fille [01:40] maybe i should restart and see if i get write back [01:40] it happened last time [01:40] let me install a game [01:41] UbuntuN00b1: im seeing that the drive should be checked for errors [01:41] and i agree with that [01:41] you can do that from a live CD easily [01:41] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23236 [01:42] http://arstechnica.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=102807 [01:43] alright lol let me find my live usb stick [01:44] ok so i'm gonna boot to live and then come back so you can hold my hand some more [01:44] lol [01:45] Ubuntu-beginners: For when you need someone to hold your hand :D [01:45] lol your palm is kinda sweaty though [01:45] hehhe [01:45] alrigh be back in a few === nlsthzn-work is now known as Ubuntu-work === Ubuntu-work is now known as nlsthzn-work === MrChrisDruif is now known as IAmNumberFour === IAmNumberFour is now known as MrChrisDruif === MrChrisDruif is now known as IAmNumberOne [02:01] alright i'm on my other puter [02:01] so the filesystem on the os drive comes up "clean" [02:01] the /hom hard drive comes up "not clean" [02:02] is that hat you guys meant by checking the file system? [02:03] UbuntuN00b: i think so [02:03] that sounds like what i would expect to find [02:03] an error like that somewhere [02:04] /home sounds plausible [02:04] can i just reinstall /home? [02:05] i don't no if this makes any difference but my /home drive is an SD card [02:05] but it was working before [02:05] Why don't you try rescue [02:05] UbuntuN00b: did it fix? [02:05] so i soubt thats the probem [02:05] * holstein tags Raju :) [02:05] it didn't say anything anoug fixing [02:05] it just said not clean [02:06] i feel so dirty [02:06] heh [02:07] so are we doing a rescue? [02:08] UbuntuN00b: let me look around [02:08] I mean try rescue system by live cd [02:08] k [02:08] i was thinking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck [02:08] on the partition [02:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645219 [02:08] Raju: is that what you are suggesting? [02:09] oh wait [02:10] * IAmNumberOne is calling it a night, good luck UbuntuN00b [02:10] sorry i was using the disk checker [02:10] i can scan using gparted [02:10] lol nevermind [02:10] it just gave me an error when i tried to scan it [02:12] UbuntuN00b: ? [02:12] just gave me Error [02:12] and wouldn't do it [02:12] works on the internl (os) drive [02:12] though [02:13] UbuntuN00b: you wont be able to scan a mounted drive [02:13] AFAIK [02:14] kk [02:14] thats why i use a live disc [02:14] i'm on the live [02:17] i'm assuming its not mounted [02:17] as unmount is greyed out === Raju is now known as kills === kills is now known as genupulas [02:22] alright so the fcsk command eh [02:22] check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck [02:22] just to be sure [02:23] i always google it *still [02:23] and i dont want to lead you in the wrong direction [02:23] hehe it ok either waay [02:24] fsck -F /dev/mmcblk0 ? [02:24] would that be correct command [02:24] buntun00b123: that looks ok [02:24] where did you get mmcblk0 ? [02:25] from gparted [02:25] i think i end up with /dev/sda or whatever [02:25] thats the name of the drive with /home on it [02:25] hmmm [02:25] buntun00b123: open a terminal [02:25] and run [02:25] its an sd card [02:25] so it has a wird name [02:25] sudo fdisk -l [02:25] kk [02:25] and make sure of the name there [02:27] yeah the drive is /dev/mmcblk0 32gb [02:27] buntun00b123: cool [02:27] that should do it then :) [02:27] well, that will run fsck [02:27] we are hoping it fixes the problem* [02:27] lol [02:28] it says i dont have write acceess [02:28] to the drivee [02:28] "you mus have r/w access to the filesystem or be root" [02:29] buntun00b123: sudo [02:29] sudo fsck -F ..... [02:30] says same thing about the write access... but also [02:31] yeah? [02:31] something is not right [02:31] "fsck.ext2:device or resource busy while trying to open ... [02:31] buntun00b123: you say its an SD card? [02:31] is there a switch on it? [02:31] for read only? [02:31] yeah i check it [02:31] hmmm [02:31] http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/370 [02:31] well, those things go bad [02:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-635148.html [02:32] bought it about a week ago [02:32] ive had 2 USB sticks die on me [02:32] one was new [02:32] out of the box bad [02:33] lamee [02:33] yeah, dont rule it out [02:34] dont want to beat your head against the wall [02:34] when its hardware [02:34] *if its hardware [02:34] it would make sense why it works sometiems and not others [02:34] unfortunately, it does support the theory :/ [02:35] i have SD card installs [02:35] nut its weird it would be read and not write instead of just being nothing [02:35] and never needed to do anything special [02:35] buntun00b123: i think i would reinstall [02:35] i think i will do a fresh install in any case and fdisk the card [02:35] yeah [02:35] with the normal ubuntu disk [02:36] *vanilla [02:36] buntun00b123: really format that drive too [02:36] yeah i will download that action [02:36] in between [02:36] and see [02:36] yeah i will gpart it from live [02:36] and destroy the partition [02:36] and re-creat it [02:36] buntun00b123: :) [02:37] you can make one big ext2 partition in there [02:37] and install to it without swap :) [02:37] thats how i used to do my sd card installs [02:37] yeah but my internal drive is only 8 gb [02:37] so thats why i had home on the sd card [02:37] i see [02:38] or you mean i wouldn't to make a swap (partition) ? [02:38] if i did that way [02:38] i thought you had the whole install on the SD card [02:38] thats the way i usually do it [02:38] not the os is on internal (and swap) is on internal [02:38] just one big ext2 part on the SD card [02:39] so you saying when i install i should keep everyting on the internal [02:39] and format the sd card as "ext2"? [02:39] buntun00b123: nah, do your thing [02:40] i just didnt know what you were doing [02:40] *that should work too [02:40] because doesn't ubuntu just pool the storage space? [02:40] depends on how you do it [02:40] i just worried cause the sd card has slower read write speed [02:41] so i split it up to keep os on the faster drive [02:41] i didnt think it was crazy slow [02:41] OS on SD [02:41] i can't put os on sd [02:41] it was an EEE900 though [02:41] acer sd card is not bootable [02:41] its pci [02:41] buntun00b123: yeah? [02:41] yeah [02:41] thats a drag [02:42] that was SO much fun when i got the EEE [02:42] installing whatever on SD cards [02:42] and booting into them [02:42] spent 2 days working on it hehehe [02:42] or the internal drive [02:42] put in a card and boom [02:42] whole different OS :) [02:42] yeah i probably should have bought one of these low profile usb keys [02:43] as it would be bootable [02:43] eh, you'll sort it out :) [02:43] but i didn't realize when i bought the card [02:44] im glad all of mine do [02:44] i have 2 EEE's [02:44] and an hp minonote [02:44] an early mininote [02:44] this one was given to me [02:44] with an express card slot :) [02:45] whats an express slot [02:45] ? [02:45] kinda like pcmcia [02:45] i can add firewire to it [02:45] basicially [02:45] cool beabs [02:45] beans [02:45] i use it with my audio interface [02:45] to record in the field [02:46] what you do? [02:47] you mean job? [02:47] i play bass [02:47] but i have a project recording studio as well [02:48] so is ubuntu 10.10 vanilla? [02:48] ubuntun0000b: can be [02:48] just the normal desktop CD is what im suggesting [02:49] kk [04:02] I have a user ABC which can SSH into ubuntu 10.04 lts with username/login and then change the session to root by using su. [04:02] [04:02]