[00:51] <UbuntuN00b1> is ubuntu desktop that installed with netbook edition the full blown version?
[00:52] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: i think you can just choose between them
[00:52] <holstein> at login
[00:52] <holstein> used to be that way
[00:52] <UbuntuN00b1> yeah it is
[00:52] <UbuntuN00b1> i'm just curious if the desktop edition is the full version
[00:52] <UbuntuN00b1> or if its a light build or something
[00:52] <holstein> it *should* be vanilla
[00:52] <holstein> at that point
[00:53] <UbuntuN00b1> vanilla
[00:53] <UbuntuN00b1> ?
[00:53] <nlsthzn-work> the normal version :)
[00:54] <UbuntuN00b1> ah
[00:54] <UbuntuN00b1> thanks guys
[00:55] <UbuntuN00b1> this chan has been sweet for my b00b skills
[00:55] <UbuntuN00b1> haha
[00:55] <UbuntuN00b1> err n00b
[00:55] <UbuntuN00b1> although i could use b00b skills
[00:55] <holstein> lol
[00:58] <nlsthzn-work> :D
[00:58] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm...
[00:58] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know if that is nice :D
[00:59] <UbuntuN00b1> ?
[00:59] <MrChrisDruif> b00b skills
[00:59] <UbuntuN00b1> obviously you have never been the recepient of good b00b skills
[01:00] <UbuntuN00b1> anyone want to recommend some must have programs for a linux n00b?
[01:01] <MrChrisDruif> UbuntuN00b1: Depends on what you want to do :)
[01:01] <UbuntuN00b1> hmmm any why software centre is crashing in desktop edition
[01:02] <UbuntuN00b1> ohhhh ubuntu i want to love you but some days you make it so hard
[01:03] <MrChrisDruif> USC worked in Netbook?
[01:03] <UbuntuN00b1> yup
[01:04] <MrChrisDruif> And second try also failed?
[01:04] <UbuntuN00b1> yup
[01:04] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: open a terminal
[01:04] <UbuntuN00b1> its pop up get the loading mouse thing and then it closes
[01:04] <UbuntuN00b1> kk
[01:04] <MrChrisDruif> Did it say anything like an error message?
[01:04] <UbuntuN00b1> nope
[01:04] <holstein> and run
[01:05] <holstein> software-center
[01:05] <holstein> and *note the errors
[01:05] <holstein> if its just a line or 2
[01:05] <holstein> you can paste it here
[01:05] <holstein> or use...
[01:05] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:06] <UbuntuN00b1> should it be "run software-center"
[01:06] <UbuntuN00b1> oh wait its centre
[01:06] <UbuntuN00b1> british/canadian styles
[01:07] <UbuntuN00b1> i' m not doing it right :(
[01:07] <UbuntuN00b1> should the command be "crun" ?
[01:08] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: just open a terminal
[01:08] <UbuntuN00b1> yup
[01:08] <holstein> and in that terminal type :
[01:08] <holstein> software-center
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> ARNING:root:trying to fix not writable cache directory
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> ERROR:root:failed to fix not writable cache directory
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/paths.py", line 31, in try_to_fixup_root_owned_dir_via_remove
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     os.rmdir(directory)
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/home/liam/.cache/software-center'
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 38, in <module>
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     import softwarecenter.log
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/log.py", line 94, in <module>
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     backupCount=5)
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/handlers.py", line 112, in __init__
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     BaseRotatingHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding, delay)
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/handlers.py", line 64, in __init__
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     logging.FileHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding, delay)
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py", line 827, in __init__
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     StreamHandler.__init__(self, self._open())
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py", line 846, in _open
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1>     stream = open(self.baseFilename, self.mode)
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/home/liam/.cache/software-center/software-center.log'
[01:09] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: that would be more than a line or two
[01:09] <holstein> SO, in the future
[01:09] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:09] <UbuntuN00b1> soory
[01:09] <holstein> ^
[01:10] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: no worries :)
[01:10] <UbuntuN00b1> my bad
[01:10] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: you still have permissions errors going on i think
[01:10] <holstein> not sure what you did
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> lol
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> i got stuff to install
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> after reboot
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> maybe i should just do a reinstall...
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> lame
[01:11] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: well, i would suggest looking around
[01:11] <holstein> and trying to fix it first
[01:11] <holstein> you can learn something from the experience
[01:11] <UbuntuN00b1> thats true
[01:11] <holstein> and, if you are OK with reinstalling
[01:11] <holstein> you can always do that :)
[01:12] <UbuntuN00b1> all do some google work
[01:12] <holstein> as a last ditch effort
[01:12] <holstein> i would google WARNING:root:trying to fix not writable cache directory
[01:12] <holstein> maybe add ubuntu to it
[01:12] <holstein> and go from there
[01:13] <UbuntuN00b1> kk
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> hey holstein
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> can you check this out]
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/671054
[01:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 671054 in software-center "cannot start software center" [Undecided,Invalid]
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> make sure its the same problem
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> i think it is
[01:21] <UbuntuN00b1> before i go ahead and start deleating the files hehe
[01:25]  * holstein looking UbuntuN00b1 
[01:25] <UbuntuN00b1> thanks
[01:25] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: yeah, i would do that
[01:26] <UbuntuN00b1> can i just del everything in the cache folder?
[01:26] <holstein> that looks like a very plausible fix
[01:26] <holstein> yeah, try and just grab it
[01:26] <MrChrisDruif> A large section of your errors-logs match
[01:26] <holstein> and put it in the trash
[01:26] <holstein> you can always recover it that way
[01:26] <holstein> if needed
[01:26] <UbuntuN00b1> kk
[01:27] <holstein> but, i think that is going to do the trick, if you need to be more forceful
[01:27] <UbuntuN00b1> hmmm it doesn't want to move to trash just want to del
[01:27] <UbuntuN00b1> hehe i guess this is all or nothing
[01:27] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: ?
[01:28] <holstein> nah
[01:28] <UbuntuN00b1> says can not move
[01:28] <UbuntuN00b1> and asks to deleate
[01:28] <holstein> you can sudo mv it
[01:28] <holstein> but, i would just delete it
[01:28] <UbuntuN00b1> kk
[01:28] <holstein> you're not going to break anything
[01:28] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know why Kiwinote didn't just say to open nautilus in terminal with "gksudo nautilus ~/.cache/software-center" :P
[01:28] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: thats true
[01:29] <UbuntuN00b1> k should i reboot?
[01:29] <UbuntuN00b1> or just see if opens
[01:29] <MrChrisDruif> Much shorter and more universal...everyone can use that
[01:29] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: you shouldnt have to reboot
[01:29] <MrChrisDruif> See if it opens
[01:29] <UbuntuN00b1> nope
[01:29] <UbuntuN00b1> it just closed again
[01:29] <holstein> :/
[01:30] <UbuntuN00b1> let me try again
[01:30] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: yeah, be sure you get the whole thing
[01:30] <holstein> all the hidden files
[01:30] <UbuntuN00b1> hmmmm
[01:30] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: i guess gksudo nautilus could really do some damage
[01:31] <UbuntuN00b1> its not deleating a bunch of files
[01:31] <UbuntuN00b1> i went in to the directory
[01:31] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: thats going to be the deal then
[01:31] <UbuntuN00b1> and tried to drag all into trash
[01:31] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but that's only if root is needed for that dir
[01:32] <UbuntuN00b1> should i go into each folder and deleat the files
[01:32] <UbuntuN00b1> leaving the folders in place
[01:32] <UbuntuN00b1> ?
[01:32] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: you should try getting rid of everthing from /software-center down
[01:32] <UbuntuN00b1> kk
[01:33] <holstein> including /home/you/.cache/software-center
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> hmmm
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> its givng me that read only crap again
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> so it doesn't want to let me del
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> maybe i should reboot and see if i get write access back
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> and del
[01:33] <UbuntuN00b1> the files
[01:33] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh...root rights holstein?
[01:34] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: that is odd
[01:34] <holstein> you got something really odd going on
[01:34] <UbuntuN00b1> *ubuntu* where is the love
[01:34] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: i would say, make another user account
[01:34] <holstein> log into it
[01:34] <holstein> and see if it acts funky
[01:34] <holstein> something funny has happened
[01:34] <MrChrisDruif> UbuntuN00b1: we are spreading it as we speak O:-)
[01:34] <holstein> and i dont mean 'ha-ha'
[01:34] <UbuntuN00b1> haha too true
[01:35] <UbuntuN00b1> ok
[01:35] <UbuntuN00b1> lol
[01:36] <MrChrisDruif> UbuntuN00b1: you could try "gksudo rm -r ~/.cache/software-center"
[01:36] <UbuntuN00b1> i'm not allowed to make modifications  to the system
[01:36] <holstein> yeah, you cant even sudo right?
[01:36] <UbuntuN00b1> ill check
[01:36] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: open a terminal
[01:36] <holstein> and run
[01:37] <holstein> sudo -s
[01:37] <holstein> you should get a root shell
[01:37] <UbuntuN00b1> it asked me for password and now i'm at root
[01:37] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: GOOD
[01:38] <UbuntuN00b1> you capitals give me hope
[01:38] <UbuntuN00b1> hehe
[01:38] <holstein> lol
[01:38] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[01:38] <holstein> try that command
[01:38] <UbuntuN00b1> gksudo rm -r ~/.cache/software-center     ?
[01:38] <UbuntuN00b1> that one
[01:38] <holstein> rm -r ~/.cache/software-center
[01:38] <UbuntuN00b1> ah
[01:38] <holstein> you're already root
[01:38] <holstein> in theory
[01:39] <UbuntuN00b1> read only
[01:39] <UbuntuN00b1> ...
[01:39] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: that is just odd
[01:39] <UbuntuN00b1> lol i feel so  odd
[01:39] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: what is the error line?
[01:39] <UbuntuN00b1> sec
[01:39] <holstein> lets google that too
[01:39] <UbuntuN00b1> rm: cannot remove `/home/liam/.cache/software-center/software-center-agent.db/value.DB': Read-only file system
[01:40] <UbuntuN00b1> ther a bunch like that for each fille
[01:40] <UbuntuN00b1> maybe i should restart and see if i get write back
[01:40] <UbuntuN00b1> it happened last time
[01:40] <UbuntuN00b1> let me install a game
[01:41] <holstein> UbuntuN00b1: im seeing that the drive should be checked for errors
[01:41] <holstein> and i agree with that
[01:41] <holstein> you can do that from a live CD easily
[01:41] <holstein> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23236
[01:42] <holstein> http://arstechnica.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=102807
[01:43] <UbuntuN00b1> alright lol let me find my live usb stick
[01:44] <UbuntuN00b1> ok so i'm gonna boot to live and then come back so you can hold my hand some more
[01:44] <UbuntuN00b1> lol
[01:45] <MrChrisDruif> Ubuntu-beginners: For when you need someone to hold your hand :D
[01:45] <UbuntuN00b1> lol your palm is kinda sweaty though
[01:45] <UbuntuN00b1> hehhe
[01:45] <UbuntuN00b1> alrigh be back in a few
[02:01] <UbuntuN00b> alright i'm on my other puter
[02:01] <UbuntuN00b> so the filesystem on the os drive comes up "clean"
[02:01] <UbuntuN00b> the /hom hard drive comes up "not clean"
[02:02] <UbuntuN00b> is that hat you guys meant by checking the file system?
[02:03] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: i think so
[02:03] <holstein> that sounds like what i would expect to find
[02:03] <holstein> an error like that somewhere
[02:04] <holstein>  /home sounds plausible
[02:04] <UbuntuN00b> can i just reinstall /home?
[02:05] <UbuntuN00b> i don't no if this makes any difference but my /home drive is an SD card
[02:05] <UbuntuN00b> but it was working before
[02:05] <Raju> Why don't you try rescue
[02:05] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: did it fix?
[02:05] <UbuntuN00b> so i soubt thats the probem
[02:05]  * holstein tags Raju :)
[02:05] <UbuntuN00b> it didn't say anything anoug fixing
[02:05] <UbuntuN00b> it just said not clean
[02:06] <UbuntuN00b> i feel so dirty
[02:06] <UbuntuN00b> heh
[02:07] <UbuntuN00b> so are we doing a rescue?
[02:08] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: let me look around
[02:08] <Raju> I mean try rescue system by live cd
[02:08] <UbuntuN00b> k
[02:08] <holstein> i was thinking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[02:08] <holstein> on the partition
[02:08] <UbuntuN00b> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645219
[02:08] <holstein> Raju: is that what you are suggesting?
[02:09] <UbuntuN00b> oh wait
[02:10]  * IAmNumberOne is calling it a night, good luck UbuntuN00b
[02:10] <UbuntuN00b> sorry i was using the disk checker
[02:10] <UbuntuN00b> i can scan using gparted
[02:10] <UbuntuN00b> lol nevermind
[02:10] <UbuntuN00b> it just gave me an error when i tried to scan it
[02:12] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: ?
[02:12] <UbuntuN00b> just gave me Error
[02:12] <UbuntuN00b> and wouldn't do it
[02:12] <UbuntuN00b> works on the internl (os) drive
[02:12] <UbuntuN00b> though
[02:13] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: you wont be able to scan a mounted drive
[02:13] <holstein> AFAIK
[02:14] <UbuntuN00b> kk
[02:14] <holstein> thats why i use a live disc
[02:14] <UbuntuN00b> i'm on the live
[02:17] <UbuntuN00b> i'm assuming its not mounted
[02:17] <UbuntuN00b> as unmount is greyed out
[02:22] <buntun00b123> alright so the fcsk command eh
[02:22] <holstein> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[02:22] <holstein> just to be sure
[02:23] <holstein> i always google it *still
[02:23] <holstein> and i dont want to lead you in the wrong direction
[02:23] <buntun00b123> hehe it ok either waay
[02:24] <buntun00b123> fsck -F /dev/mmcblk0  ?
[02:24] <buntun00b123> would that be correct command
[02:24] <holstein> buntun00b123: that looks ok
[02:24] <holstein> where did you get mmcblk0 ?
[02:25] <buntun00b123> from gparted
[02:25] <holstein> i think i end up with /dev/sda or whatever
[02:25] <buntun00b123> thats the name of the drive with /home on it
[02:25] <holstein> hmmm
[02:25] <holstein> buntun00b123: open a terminal
[02:25] <holstein> and run
[02:25] <buntun00b123> its an sd card
[02:25] <buntun00b123> so it has a wird name
[02:25] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <buntun00b123> kk
[02:25] <holstein> and make sure of the name there
[02:27] <buntun00b123> yeah the drive is /dev/mmcblk0  32gb
[02:27] <holstein> buntun00b123: cool
[02:27] <holstein> that should do it then :)
[02:27] <holstein> well, that will run fsck
[02:27] <holstein> we are hoping it fixes the problem*
[02:27] <buntun00b123> lol
[02:28] <buntun00b123> it says i dont have write acceess
[02:28] <buntun00b123> to the drivee
[02:28] <buntun00b123> "you mus have r/w access to the filesystem or be root"
[02:29] <holstein> buntun00b123: sudo
[02:29] <holstein> sudo fsck -F .....
[02:30] <buntun00b123> says same thing about the write access... but also
[02:31] <holstein> yeah?
[02:31] <holstein> something is not right
[02:31] <buntun00b123> "fsck.ext2:device or resource busy while trying to open ...
[02:31] <holstein> buntun00b123: you say its an SD card?
[02:31] <holstein> is there a switch on it?
[02:31] <holstein> for read only?
[02:31] <buntun00b123> yeah i check it
[02:31] <holstein> hmmm
[02:31] <buntun00b123> http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/370
[02:31] <holstein> well, those things go bad
[02:31] <buntun00b123> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-635148.html
[02:32] <buntun00b123> bought it about a week ago
[02:32] <holstein> ive had 2 USB sticks die on me
[02:32] <holstein> one was new
[02:32] <holstein> out of the box bad
[02:33] <buntun00b123> lamee
[02:33] <holstein> yeah, dont rule it out
[02:34] <holstein> dont want to beat your head against the wall
[02:34] <holstein> when its hardware
[02:34] <holstein> *if its hardware
[02:34] <buntun00b123> it would make sense why it works sometiems and not others
[02:34] <holstein> unfortunately, it does support the theory :/
[02:35] <holstein> i have SD card installs
[02:35] <buntun00b123> nut its weird it would be read and not write instead of just being nothing
[02:35] <holstein> and never needed to do anything special
[02:35] <holstein> buntun00b123: i think i would reinstall
[02:35] <buntun00b123> i think i will do a fresh install in any case and fdisk the card
[02:35] <buntun00b123> yeah
[02:35] <holstein> with the normal ubuntu disk
[02:36] <holstein> *vanilla
[02:36] <holstein> buntun00b123: really format that drive too
[02:36] <buntun00b123> yeah i will download that action
[02:36] <holstein> in between
[02:36] <holstein> and see
[02:36] <buntun00b123> yeah i will gpart it from live
[02:36] <buntun00b123> and destroy the partition
[02:36] <buntun00b123> and re-creat it
[02:36] <holstein> buntun00b123: :)
[02:37] <holstein> you can make one big ext2 partition in there
[02:37] <holstein> and install to it without swap :)
[02:37] <holstein> thats how i used to do my sd card installs
[02:37] <buntun00b123> yeah but my internal drive is only 8 gb
[02:37] <buntun00b123> so thats why i had home on the sd card
[02:37] <holstein> i see
[02:38] <buntun00b123> or you mean i wouldn't to make a swap (partition) ?
[02:38] <buntun00b123> if i did that way
[02:38] <holstein> i thought you had the whole install on the SD card
[02:38] <holstein> thats the way i usually do it
[02:38] <buntun00b123> not the os is on internal (and swap) is on internal
[02:38] <holstein> just one big ext2 part on the SD card
[02:39] <buntun00b123> so you saying when i install i should keep everyting on the internal
[02:39] <buntun00b123> and format the sd card as "ext2"?
[02:39] <holstein> buntun00b123: nah, do your thing
[02:40] <holstein> i just didnt know what you were doing
[02:40] <holstein> *that should work too
[02:40] <buntun00b123> because doesn't ubuntu just pool the storage space?
[02:40] <holstein> depends on how you do it
[02:40] <buntun00b123> i just worried cause the sd card has slower read write speed
[02:41] <buntun00b123> so i split it up to keep os on the faster drive
[02:41] <holstein> i didnt think it was crazy slow
[02:41] <holstein> OS on SD
[02:41] <buntun00b123> i can't put os on sd
[02:41] <holstein> it was an EEE900 though
[02:41] <buntun00b123> acer sd card is not bootable
[02:41] <buntun00b123> its pci
[02:41] <holstein> buntun00b123: yeah?
[02:41] <buntun00b123> yeah
[02:41] <holstein> thats a drag
[02:42] <holstein> that was SO much fun when i got the EEE
[02:42] <holstein> installing whatever on SD cards
[02:42] <holstein> and booting into them
[02:42] <buntun00b123> spent 2 days working on  it hehehe
[02:42] <holstein> or the internal drive
[02:42] <holstein> put in a card and boom
[02:42] <holstein> whole different OS :)
[02:42] <buntun00b123> yeah i probably should have bought one of these low profile usb keys
[02:43] <buntun00b123> as it would be bootable
[02:43] <holstein> eh, you'll sort it out :)
[02:43] <buntun00b123> but i didn't realize when  i bought the card
[02:44] <holstein> im glad all of mine do
[02:44] <holstein> i have 2 EEE's
[02:44] <holstein> and an hp minonote
[02:44] <holstein> an early mininote
[02:44] <buntun00b123> this one was given to me
[02:44] <holstein> with an express card slot :)
[02:45] <buntun00b123> whats an express slot
[02:45] <buntun00b123> ?
[02:45] <holstein> kinda like pcmcia
[02:45] <holstein> i can add firewire to it
[02:45] <holstein> basicially
[02:45] <buntun00b123> cool beabs
[02:45] <buntun00b123> beans
[02:45] <holstein> i use it with my audio interface
[02:45] <holstein> to record in the field
[02:46] <buntun00b123> what you do?
[02:47] <holstein> you mean job?
[02:47] <holstein> i play bass
[02:47] <holstein> but i have a project recording studio as well
[02:48] <ubuntun0000b> so is ubuntu 10.10 vanilla?
[02:48] <holstein> ubuntun0000b: can be
[02:48] <holstein> just the normal desktop CD is what im suggesting
[02:49] <UbuntuN00b> kk
[04:02] <Stef> I have a user ABC which can SSH into ubuntu 10.04 lts with username/login and then change the session to root by using su.
[04:02] <Stef>  
[04:02] <Stef> Now I established an OpenSSH connection with key authenticication and I can't use su anymore to switch over to root session. Is that a config of OpenSSH? I don't want the user ABC to have sudo rights.
[04:03] <holstein> Stef: while ssh'd in
[04:03] <holstein> try
[04:04] <holstein> sudo -s
[04:04] <holstein> see if you get a root shell
[04:04] <holstein> i do, and i dont remember doing anything special
[04:04] <Stef> ABC is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:04] <holstein> hmmm
[04:04] <holstein> Stef: maybe you have ABC locked down
[04:05] <holstein> i think this is about ABC's setup and no ssh
[04:05] <Stef> maybe some openSSH setting?
[04:05] <holstein> but i might be wrong
[04:05] <holstein> Stef: you can look at the config file
[04:05] <holstein> but, i dont remember changing that
[04:05] <Stef> I can use su and change to root when I use SSH with username/login
[04:05] <Stef> just not when I use the keys and passphrase
[04:05] <holstein> interesting
[04:06] <Stef> indeed :-)
[04:06] <holstein> let me look at my config file
[04:09] <holstein> yeah Stef
[04:09] <holstein> i dont have anything special in there
[04:09] <Stef> and?
[04:09] <holstein> most are commented out
[04:09] <holstein> so i have keys only
[04:09] <holstein> not sure whats going on
[04:09] <holstein> Stef: have you rebooted?
[04:09] <Stef> same. I just added the few lines for OpenSSH and where to find the keys
[04:09] <holstein> thats probably what i would try first
[04:10] <Stef> not yet but I restarted SSH
[04:10] <holstein> then maybe try and find a server guru
[04:10] <UbuntuN00b> hey holstein should i format the sd card in ext2 or ext4 (soory for interrupting the convo)
[04:10] <holstein> UbuntuN00b: no worries, i would do ext2
[04:10] <Stef> ok ta...
[04:10] <UbuntuN00b> kk
[04:10] <holstein> but its prolly not that big a deal either way
[07:51] <bob_789> hi, I'm new to ubuntu but not computers. I've installed and basically like what i see, just having some difficulty now getting it to work with my windows network, etc. So I've been looking at the elearn courses at the canonical shop as a shortcut to getting the knowledge to replace everything with ubuntu. Specifically the Ubuntu Professional course.
[07:51] <bob_789> My question is ... is it a recognised course, is there some sort of certificate, can I add it to my c.v. and not be laughed at :P The name would suggest this, but I want to be sure before I hand over my cash :D ... If this is not the right place to ask, could you suggest where I should be looking and/or what I should be looking for.
[08:10] <bob_789> lights on but no-one home ?
[08:13] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know?
[08:13] <MrChrisDruif> bob_789: What seems to be the problem?
[08:14] <bob_789> hi
[08:14] <bob_789> asked a question but didn't get a response so was kjust checking if anyone really here
[08:15] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but I've just entered the channel....so I missed your question :)
[08:15] <bob_789> before I repeated myself
[08:15] <bob_789>  I'm new to ubuntu but not computers. I've installed and basically like what i see, just having some difficulty now getting it to work with my windows network, etc. So I've been looking at the elearn courses at the canonical shop as a shortcut to getting the knowledge to replace everything with ubuntu. Specifically the Ubuntu Professional course.
[08:15] <bob_789> My question is ... is it a recognised course, is there some sort of certificate, can I add it to my c.v. and not be laughed at :P The name would suggest this, but I want to be sure before I hand over my cash :D ... If this is not the right place to ask, could you suggest where I should be looking and/or what I should be looking for.
[08:16] <MrChrisDruif> Alright :)
[08:17] <MrChrisDruif> So you want to go professional :) Great goal
[08:17] <bob_789> yip
[08:18] <bob_789> I have a fair bit of experience with pc's but never the certification along the way ... so thought I'd try doing it right with ubuntu
[08:19] <MrChrisDruif> I think it's respectable to put it on your c.v. Not only is it recognized as an official certificate (afaik) but it would also show your dedicated, as your getting it in your spare time :)
[08:22] <bob_789> thanks for the input
[08:22] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome :)
[08:24] <bob_789> i'm leaning towards the course more than just getting a book, reading and then applying it. As it is my c.v. is pretty bare compared to what I can do/know.
[08:28] <MrChrisDruif> The course would make a fine addition to your cv
[08:33] <bob_789> thanks again
[11:55] <prithvi> anyone know of a good alternative to iperf/jperf  on ubuntu?
[13:06] <Bipul> how to create a file via terminal
[13:09] <coz_> Bipul,   mkdir
[13:09] <bioterror> what
[13:09] <bioterror> mkdir makes directory
[13:09] <bioterror> touch makes file
[13:09] <coz_> oh  sorry
[13:09] <coz_> bioterror,  what type of file are you wanting to create?
[13:10] <bioterror> docx
[13:10] <coz_> mm I thought  "touch" was mainly for  chaning file timestamps
[13:11] <bioterror> touch file
[13:11] <bioterror> it will create one if it does not exist
[13:12] <MrChrisDruif> So like touch file.docx creates a file called file.docx?
[13:12] <Puck`> yes
[13:13] <bioterror> I've touched many files in /var/log when installing things ;)
[13:24] <Bipul> How to put a packeges in a file via terminal
[13:24] <bioterror> what
[13:25] <MrChrisDruif> You mean file in a folder Bipul?
[13:27] <Bipul> yes
[13:30] <MrChrisDruif> Well then you only need to do "mv /path/to/current /path/to/new
[13:31] <MrChrisDruif> Bipul: A mention would suffice :)
[18:13] <Phrea> sorry, just had to check if I got the channel name right :)
[18:21] <UbuntuN00b> anyone have suggestions on a program to allow ubuntu to use windows programs
[18:21] <UbuntuN00b> i know there are a few out there
[18:23] <bioterror> wine?
[18:23] <bioterror> !wine | UbuntuN00b
[18:23] <ubot2> UbuntuN00b: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[18:24] <UbuntuN00b> !appDb
[18:24] <ubot2> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[20:48] <UbuntuN00b> .
[20:59] <alejandro> Does anyone know how to get the email notification bubble to repeat in Natty?
[21:12] <MrChrisDruif> alejandro: It appears nobody knows here, you could try #ubuntu+1 which currently still is natty :)
[21:15] <alejandro> Thanks.
[21:15] <alejandro> MrChrisDruif: Yes, I am doing that now. Thanks
[21:49] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: YO
[21:49] <holstein> yeah, that was me talking about musescore