[00:15] <ikt> my bug days email got no response :(
[01:36] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/80895
[01:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 80895 in launchpad "Give people five minutes to edit/delete their comment (affects: 62) (dups: 9) (heat: 267)" [Low,Triaged]
[01:55] <bcurtiswx> ikt, it's not really that beneficial to bug reports to ask about it's status.  It's the best to assume that since there's a bug report, it's on someones radar and will get fixed when time allows
[01:57] <ikt> Agree about the first part, but assuming it's on someones radar?
[12:12] <om26er> seb128, Hi!
[12:12] <om26er> bug 506404 will this pass the final release?
[12:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 506404 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "System menu in top panel also shows logout/shutdown when using indicator-applet-complete (affects: 11) (dups: 5) (heat: 43)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506404
[12:13] <om26er> are there still chances for the fix or is it too late?
[12:17] <ogra_> om26er, better ask in #ubuntu-desktop i'd say given the panel maintainers need to fix it
[12:21] <seb128> hey om26er
[12:21] <om26er> ogra_, had a talk with seb a few weeks ago so was just a poke, I believe he is aware and knows who/what will fix it ;)
[12:22] <seb128> om26er, well I though it had to do with the change the logo menu which was reverted
[12:22] <ogra_> well, then just hope that he finds time :)
[12:22] <seb128> if it's not not sure what's going on
[12:22] <seb128> not likely to be a priority but it still has some 3 days to be fixed if someone comes with a patch
[12:23] <om26er> there is a comment from ted in the bug, guess ted did something to gnome-panel previosuly to not show these menu items when indicator-session is in use
[12:23] <seb128> well easy fix would be to change the applet id
[12:23] <seb128> having both supported is a bit extra work
[14:42] <seb128> om26er_, hi
[14:42] <om26er_> seb128, Hey!
[14:42] <seb128> things like bug #762808 could you not duplicate those until you check it's the exact same hardware?
[14:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762808 in unity "A white rectangle in the dash (dup-of: 752157)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762808
[14:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 752157 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "graphical corruption in launcher (affects: 6) (dups: 4) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752157
[14:42] <seb128> we want to know what card and drivers have issue
[14:42] <om26er_> seb128, its definitely ati open source
[14:43] <seb128> how can you say?
[14:43] <om26er_> i'll be careful, but I have seen 8-9 bugs in the past
[14:43] <seb128> the bug has been opened manually and has 2 lines description without any info on the card
[14:43] <om26er_> all for the free ati driver
[14:43] <seb128> right, it doesn't mean they are for the same cards or series
[14:43] <seb128> we can't block ati
[14:44] <seb128> we need to determine what chipsets don't work
[14:44] <seb128> i.e bug #728745
[14:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728745 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[nvidia, 7300, 7400] display freeze when using unity desktop (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728745
[14:44] <seb128> that's an issue on nvidia geforce 7300 and 7400 series it seems
[14:44] <om26er_> right
[14:44] <seb128> we want to be able to know if we need to block a chipset id and which one
[14:44] <seb128> thanks
[16:21] <jibel> charlie-tca, I filed bug 758739 last week in xubuntu, who should I assign this report to, to fix it ?
[16:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 758739 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "ubiquity slideshow not translated during xubuntu wubi installation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758739
[16:23] <charlie-tca> I forgot
[16:23] <charlie-tca> Let me go work on that, and find out how to get it fixed.
[16:23] <charlie-tca> Thanks, jibel
[16:25] <jibel> charlie-tca, actually 2 sentences are translated on the welcome slide, everything else is in english
[16:34] <charlie-tca> I think I have to send it to translations, but am checking to make sure
[16:37] <serfus> charlie-tca, you should add Ubuntu Translations as affected anyway
[16:37] <jibel> charlie-tca, I can't reproduce bug 711571, do you ?
[16:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711571 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "Xfce Shutdown/Restart doesn't work (logout instead) (affects: 5) (dups: 2) (heat: 36)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711571
[16:38] <charlie-tca> jibel: yup
[16:38] <charlie-tca> I added an upstream bug to it
[16:38] <jibel> k
[16:38] <charlie-tca> It is showing up in all distros
[16:39] <charlie-tca> seems to be an issue with xfce4-session or xfdesktop and xorg
[16:39] <charlie-tca> I saw it once in beta2 tests
[17:10] <jibel> anyone can reproduce bug 764750 on real hw ? It doesn't occurs every time.
[17:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764750 in casper (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "No shutdown/Restart menu on live session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764750
[17:11] <charlie-tca> ouch
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I thought it was something I did when I saw that
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I will try to reproduce later today
[17:12] <charlie-tca> running a couple of upgrade tests now
[18:40] <mainerror> hello
[18:42] <mainerror> I have filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/btnx/+bug/764898 and got a message that the bug is a duplicate of another bug but that duplicate bug link leads to nowhere, is there anything I should do?
[18:42] <bdmurray> mainerror: whats the bug number of the bug yours is a duplicate of?
[18:42] <mainerror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750458
[18:42] <ubot4> mainerror: Error: Bug #750458 is private.
[18:43] <mainerror> oh ok I see, thanks :)
[18:44] <mainerror> already guessed something along those lines but I wanted to make sure
[18:44] <bdmurray> mainerror: I'll try and make it not private
[18:45] <mainerror> what are the correct steps to confirm this bug given that the duplicate becomes public? May I confirm it if it is really the same bug?
[18:46] <bdmurray> mainerror: yes, since you too have experienced
[18:46] <bdmurray> experienced the bug
[18:46] <mainerror> nice, thanks :)
[18:47] <bdmurray> detailed steps to recreate it might help
[18:48] <bdmurray> mainerror: okay made public
[18:48] <mainerror> well I'll write them up since they are really easy, actually other than starting it up there is not much you have to do to trigger it :)
[18:50] <mainerror> the only real difference is that I had a newer kernel version
[18:55] <mainerror> confirmed and added steps to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/btnx/+bug/750458/comments/5
[18:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 750458 in btnx (Ubuntu) "btnx crashed with SIGSEGV in __strcpy_chk() (affects: 4) (dups: 3) (heat: 38)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[19:00] <bdmurray> mainerror: great, thanks for helping out
[19:04] <mainerror> bdmurray, my pleasure. ;)
[19:05] <mainerror> once I find the time and that Bug management session PDF I'm planing to help on a regular basis
[19:06] <bdmurray> mainerror: well if you have any questsion feel fre to ask
[19:10] <mainerror> right I'll start right away with it, hehe
[19:10] <mainerror> this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/764911 was triaged as a dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/764883
[19:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764911 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'trans' is not defined (dup-of: 764883)" [Undecided,New]
[19:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764883 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'trans' is not defined (affects: 25) (dups: 24) (heat: 206)" [High,Triaged]
[19:11] <mainerror> it has the status Triaged, I guess I won't have to Confirm it anymore?
[19:12] <mainerror> oh I love that ubot :)
[19:12] <bdmurray> mainerror: Triaged is further along in the bug lifecycle than Confirmed
[19:12] <charlie-tca> mainerror: correct, i
[19:12] <bdmurray> mainerror: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[19:12] <charlie-tca> once status is triaged, it is confirmed
[19:12] <mainerror> ew thanks for that link :)
[19:13]  * mainerror bookmarked it
[19:16] <mainerror> I should probably join you guys on a bugday
[19:17] <yofel> mainerror: rather bookmark https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase - the status page is linked there
[19:17] <mainerror> :o
[19:17] <mainerror> done
[19:36] <bdmurray> seb128_: have you seen a bug like bug 754434?
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 754434 in ubuntu "After login the ubuntu 11.04 classic theme changes to something that look like clearlooks (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754434
[19:39] <seb128_> bdmurray, yes, quite some, that's the gnome-settings-daemon crashing
[19:39] <seb128_> bdmurray, there was  a known u1 issue
[19:41] <bdmurray> seb128_: I just had it happen to me on a virtual machine.  Is there something I should look for?
[19:42] <seb128_> bdmurra, usually the .xsession-errors log can have clues, or apport triggering
[19:42] <bdmurray> seb128_: I see a gsd warning regarding run one xsettings manager at a time
[19:43] <seb128_> bdmurray, ok, that's bug #649809
[19:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 649809 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 7 other projects) "the session settings manager can try starting before the login screen one exits (affects: 105) (dups: 5) (heat: 508)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649809
[19:43] <seb128_> ignore the nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 info, it's a gnome-settings-daemon bug
[19:44] <seb128_> rodrigo is working on it
[19:44] <seb128_> he might need testing of fixes or extra infos so maybe subscribe of the bug if he asks question
[20:47] <JoshuaL> A little while ago I submitted a bug, did some testing with the staging kernel and now somebody replied this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/754825/comments/10 do I have to do something again or is this a message to the person who has to fix this bug?
[20:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 754825 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Kernel panic while using my system [brcm80211] [assertion "scb->magic == SCB_MAGIC"] (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[20:48] <JoshuaL> I dont wan't to fill the comments on this bug with useless questions :p
[20:49] <bdmurray> JoshuaL: that seems to be a message to those who will fix the bug
[20:50] <JoshuaL> bdmurray: ok cool ty
[20:52] <trinikrono> hello bugsquad i am sorry for not being as active as i should be, how is the mentorship alpha team going :D
[20:53] <JoshuaL> I was also wondering if I should provide some additional info for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/754840
[20:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 754840 in linux (Ubuntu) "Have to switch manually between audio output connectors (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New]
[21:08] <velle_frak> I've got a question for a mentor: do you think bug #764410 should have importance set to Wishlist?
[21:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764410 in nvidia-settings (Ubuntu) "Fails to parse xorg.conf, fails to auto enable 2nd monitor, fails to use primary monitor (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764410
[21:11] <JoshuaL> Question to a mentor; should this bug be marked as invalid and/or do I have to ask for more info and make it affect the xarchiver package?
[21:11] <JoshuaL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/763856
[21:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 763856 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:17] <charlie-tca> JoshuaL: bug 763856 is a kernel oops, all the information needed is there. It should be marked medium, triaged according to kernel bug procedures
[21:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 763856 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/763856
[21:18] <charlie-tca> velle_frak: your bug is against kubuntu, but still, a person using a 7-inch notebook trying to connect to an external monitor should not be going that much
[21:18] <JoshuaL> charlie-tca: ah i see, I can't change it anyways, was just wondering thanks
[21:19] <charlie-tca> velle_frak: Of course, i don't know if that is the case, but it is an example to think about
[21:20] <velle_frak> hmmm, well I can't reproduce the bug, I think the guy has a point but I have doubts on it being a 100% bug.
[21:20] <velle_frak> sounds more like a feature request or wishlist to me
[21:21] <charlie-tca> To reproduce a video bug like that, you *must*  have 100% the same hardware
[21:21] <velle_frak> correct, and since I don't.....
[21:21] <charlie-tca> right, those are some of the hardest bugs to triage because of the hardware
[21:21] <velle_frak> hmmm, being a newbie I'd better leave that one as it is then ;-).
[21:23] <charlie-tca> You could have them do      apport-collect -p xorg BUGNUMBER to give the missing information and make it easier on the X people
[21:27] <velle_frak> Ok, I'll ask them to do that. In order to do that, do I just add a comment or do I have to change anything about the bug parameters?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> JoshuaL: looks to me like bug 754840 should have all the information in it
[21:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 754840 in linux (Ubuntu) "Have to switch manually between audio output connectors (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754840
[21:29] <JoshuaL> charlie-tca: ok ty
[21:32] <JoshuaL> charlie-tca: last question, why is this bug marked as invalid? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/764883 The bug seems to be resolved after an update?
[21:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764883 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'trans' is not defined (affects: 72) (dups: 78) (heat: 624)" [High,Incomplete]
[21:34] <charlie-tca> refresh
[21:34] <charlie-tca> it is marked as incomplete because it seems it running updates again clears it for some people
[21:35] <charlie-tca> a duplicate to it may be marked invalid or confirmed, depending on when it was marked a duplicate
[21:37] <charlie-tca> I don't what is causing that bug, but it happens on fresh installs today, when the first update is run
[21:37] <charlie-tca> After that, it does not show up
[21:38] <JoshuaL> yeah i had the bug too
[21:39] <charlie-tca> The developer wanted people to tell him if it appeared after the first updates
[21:39] <JoshuaL> ah k, well this is not a clean install (actually it is, but since a week or so, other updates have been installed previously)
[21:39] <charlie-tca> see comment 3
[21:40] <charlie-tca> hm, I got it on fresh installs, first update only. It did not show up when I ran updates again
[21:41] <JoshuaL> i will do a reboot and see if the problem still exists, if not ill reply that the bug is gone for me (however a recent run of the update-manager worked fine)
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Then it cleared itself
[21:42] <JoshuaL> k, other bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/765150 are duplicates right?
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765150 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'trans' is not defined (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:42] <JoshuaL> sorry for bothering you hehe :p
[21:44] <JoshuaL> i also found out that launchpad does not show similar bugs when I reported it, while searching for trans showed me the same bugs a few times
[21:44] <charlie-tca> You see the file called "traceback.txt"?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> If it matches, the bugs are duplicates
[21:44] <JoshuaL> k
[21:45] <charlie-tca> you can mark 765150 a duplicate of 764883
[21:45] <charlie-tca> They do match exactly in this case
[21:45] <JoshuaL> thanks :)
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Thank you for helping with bugs
[21:46] <velle_frak> Added the comment, thx charlie-tca, nice talking to you :).
[21:46] <charlie-tca> velle_frak: thank you for helping with bugs!
[21:46] <charlie-tca> help is always appreciated
[21:47] <velle_frak> np, thx for your feedback
[21:47] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:47] <velle_frak> sleepy time for me now, 'night all
[21:47] <JoshuaL> thanks for explaining charlie-tca :)
[21:49] <JoshuaL> i see that bug a lot lol
[21:50] <charlie-tca> Most of them will be duplicates
[21:50] <JoshuaL> yup
[21:56] <JoshuaL> charlie-tca: and what if the stacktrace is different?
[21:57] <charlie-tca> Then don't mark it a dup
[21:57] <JoshuaL> k
[21:59] <JoshuaL> charlie-tca: last question, what if they have the same title, leave them the same, ask for more info or something else? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/765174 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/764883
[21:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765174 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'trans' is not defined (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:01] <JoshuaL> ah gota run, sorry and thanks
[22:02] <charlie-tca> They are not the same bug
[22:02] <JoshuaL> k :)
[22:02] <charlie-tca> There will some of that to be marked duplicates of each other too
[22:02] <JoshuaL> learned a lot by bugging you ty :)
[22:02] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:03] <JoshuaL> bye
[22:03] <charlie-tca> That's why I am here
[22:03] <JoshuaL> hehe :D