[00:40] <kim0> jair: you can ask questions all the time
[00:41] <kim0> also check mailing list in topic
[00:41]  * kim0 zzZZ
[01:16] <jair> kim0: thank you very much for your answer
[01:17] <jair> kim0: I will get my list of questions ;) I was thinking on waiting until wednesday but this is awesome :)
[12:47] <siri_> hello
[12:47] <siri_> is anyone there
[12:48] <siri_> heyy
[12:48] <siri_> anyone hear me
[12:56] <kim0> siri_: hi
[12:56] <kim0> siri_: it's generally best to leave your question and wait for an answer
[12:58] <siri_>  I forgot my admin password for logging through web interface [05:34] <siri_> :( [05:34] <siri_> I tried the recover password option and provided my mail id [05:34] <siri_> but dint get any password back to it
[13:00] <siri_> is there anyway I can recover my admin password to the web interface
[13:00] <siri_> ????
[13:02] <kim0> I don't know how to do that .. wait around for answer
[13:17] <siri_> how to deploy our application opn eucalyptus?
[13:17] <siri_> *on
[13:20] <siri_> *uec
[13:32] <kim0> siri_: just login to the instance over ssh and install your app like any other linux server
[13:35] <kim0> smoser: might wanne checkout https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/751057
[17:37] <guhcampos> How do you guys configure ip/routing to you clouds? I mean: I have a range on which IP's can be assigned to vm's, but I don't know on which server they will be, and I don't want all the broadcasts from all VM's flying around...
[17:44] <obino> guhcampos: UEC will handles the networking for you. Are you seeing problems?
[17:44] <guhcampos> obino, not really, I'm actually beggining to design a pilot project for a private cloud
[17:45] <guhcampos> and stumbled into the problem
[17:48] <obino> well UEC will setup the private network between the instances so that they will see only the 'right' traffic, and it will setup the public IP too, so instances will be reachable from outside
[17:50] <guhcampos> I see
[17:51] <guhcampos> So I only route a full  range in my router: a /22, for example, and use a single address as gateway for all physical servers
[17:51] <kim0> obino: hi there o/
[17:53] <kim0> hallyn: hi :) I'm not sure I understand your email .. what's mimi's patches
[17:54] <hallyn> mimi zohar's ima and evm patchsets
[17:54] <hallyn> some is in the kernel, some not
[17:54] <kim0> that's for kernel support to TPM
[17:54] <hallyn> ibm research's work for trustd boot and remote attestation
[17:54] <kim0> oh I thought it was some kinda joke ;)
[17:54] <hallyn> no
[17:54] <hallyn> well, halfway
[17:55] <kim0> is that project still at research phase
[17:55] <hallyn> only because the community isn't jumping in to really test, and parts of it are of course opposed out of fear of mega-corps abusing it
[17:55] <kim0> yeah it's kinda scary
[17:55] <kim0> tivoisation stuff right
[17:56] <hallyn> hell, android-isation
[17:56] <hallyn> yet you all keep buying those :)
[17:56] <hallyn> but try to make it useful, and "oh no, that could be abused"
[17:56] <kim0> huh .. not aware of any android related isation problems :)
[17:57] <hallyn> i forget the dteails, but aren't android phones trying to make it so that if you boot a non-provider OS, it locks down so yuo have to take it to the store to get reset?
[17:57] <kim0> haven't really seen that ..
[17:57] <kim0> I'm running cyanogen mod rom
[17:57] <kim0> which runs on like 20 other pieces of hardware
[17:57] <hallyn> the only defense against that sort of thing is to not buy it.  So if you sheep are going to insist on buying laptops with a version of IMA locking you out, then there's not much to be done for you
[17:58] <kim0> I guess if some hardware manufacturer did that .. it's really their problem. . not android
[17:58] <hallyn> eh, i'd google it, but am hip-deep
[17:58] <kim0> sony ericsson just launched a website called "root my phone" or something like that for their android stuff :)
[17:59] <hallyn> i'm running custom kernel on my n900, but not custom enough - will need to compile my own to get ecryptfs :)
[17:59] <hallyn> anyway, back to work for me, but i was serious about the idea of working trusted boot into openstack or something
[18:01] <ahs3> hallyn: let's talk about that at UDS -- i've had some experience doing that with TPM.  it's a real pain.
[18:01] <hallyn> ahs3: cool (i won't actually be *at* UDS, mind you)
[18:02] <hallyn> ahs3: join me in ganging up on kim0 to have him create a blueprint
[18:02] <ahs3> hallyn: ah, you won't?  okay, kim0: consider yourself ganged up on....
[18:03] <hallyn> sweet
[18:03] <hallyn> ahs3: if it's a real pain, that means there is a market in improving upon it :)
[18:03] <hallyn> maybe we can get mimi to virtually attend
[18:03] <kim0> hehe .. :) it would be great to have that feature indeed
[18:04] <kim0> especially with encrypted cloud rootfs ? cloud security issues silver bullet ?
[18:04] <ahs3> hallyn: heh.  probably true -- other than unreliable hardware and flaky drivers, it was a piece o' cake :)...
[18:04] <hallyn> lol
[18:06] <ahs3> kim0: hrm.  i don't know; it'll definitely help, but you've got to have trusted boot on the host OS to be thorough
[18:06]  * kim0 nods
[18:08] <obino> hi kim0
[18:09] <obino> kim0: have you ever seen this error on UEC failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev' (code=9)
[18:09] <obino> I'm trying to help a UEC user but I have not seen this error before
[18:10] <hallyn> obino: that sounds like qemu didn't actually start up
[18:10] <obino> ahh ... ok thanks hallyn
[18:11] <obino> so qemu: linux kernel too old to load a ram disk
[18:11] <obino>  could be the cause and not the effect?
[18:11] <hallyn> too old?  haven't heard that one...  but i suppose
[18:12] <hallyn> you might verify that the ram disk image on the NC is valid
[18:12] <hallyn> (i've seen the kernel image be a long http error message instead of a kernel image :)
[18:12] <obino> :) will check
[18:12] <kim0> hee
[18:13] <obino> we are aware of that problem: hopefully is fixed in the next release ...
[18:14] <kim0> just seen virt-manager with spice support in the news .. guess that's not raining-in for natty eh
[19:16] <kim0> hallyn ahs3 kirkland, just created this blueprint for the trusted cloud stuff, check it out and add comments: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-o-trusted-cloud
[19:17] <ahs3> kim0: sweet.  thx
[19:38] <kim0> obino: here's a forum question I'd love some help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1732064 :)
[20:38] <TeTeT> anyone else having issues with UEC on 11.04 to access the metadata service?