| doctormo | jussi: Where? | 02:48 |
|---|---|---|
| paultag | Howdy, world | 02:54 |
| pleia2 | g'day paultag | 02:55 |
| paultag | pleia2: howdy doodie? | 02:55 |
| pleia2 | good good | 02:56 |
| paultag | pleia2: sweet :) | 03:01 |
| paultag | pleia2: just taught one of the IT guys at the clinic how to do some cool stuff with ubuntu repos | 03:01 |
| paultag | pleia2: they have tablets to fill out information when you sit down (and sign paperwork and stuff), and they all run Ubuntu | 03:02 |
| pleia2 | paultag: nice! | 03:02 |
| paultag | :) | 03:02 |
| jono | oi oi, folks | 05:59 |
| jono | I have a meme I want to kickstart - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/18/help-me-be-better-meme/ | 05:59 |
| jono | encourage you all to join in :-) | 05:59 |
| duanedesign | hello jono | 06:23 |
| duanedesign | jono: get your contacts working? | 06:23 |
| jono | duanedesign, nope, still an issue | 06:27 |
| jono | I reopened the bug | 06:27 |
| duanedesign | :( | 06:29 |
| duanedesign | jono: liked your blog post. I left a comment. | 06:30 |
| duanedesign | .5 | 06:30 |
| jono | thanks duanedesign :-) | 06:33 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:48 |
| nigelb | hello AlanBell | 07:48 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:51 |
| nigelb | hi dholbach | 07:51 |
| nigelb | dholbach: Good WE? :) | 07:52 |
| dholbach | hey nigelb | 07:52 |
| dholbach | yes, it was great - how was yours? | 07:52 |
| nigelb | dholbach: It was awesome, good time with friends :-) | 07:58 |
| dholbach | nice | 08:00 |
| kim0 | morning everyone | 08:57 |
| dholbach | hey kim0 | 08:59 |
| kim0 | dholbach: hey man :) | 09:00 |
| dholbach | hey dpm | 09:00 |
| dpm | hey dholbach | 09:00 |
| dpm | good morning all | 09:00 |
| dpm | hey kim0 | 09:00 |
| kim0 | dpm: hey o/ | 09:01 |
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| duanedesign | morning all | 10:12 |
| popey | morning | 10:16 |
| popey | hey duanedesign have you done any screencasts on unity yet? | 10:16 |
| nigelb | hey dpm,kim0 :) | 10:24 |
| nigelb | and hola popey and duanedesign | 10:24 |
| kim0 | hey | 10:24 |
| popey | duanedesign: see bug 763579 | 10:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 763579 in unity "Panel drop shadow causes issues for screencasting apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/763579 | 10:25 |
| popey | the way the drop shadow is done seems a bit odd | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | it would be better not to have it imho | 10:29 |
| AlanBell | looks silly on the expo zoom out | 10:29 |
| popey | it would be better not to have the shadow round windows too | 10:29 |
| AlanBell | I like that | 10:29 |
| popey | snap two windows to either side of the screen | 10:29 |
| popey | the shadow from one goes over the other | 10:29 |
| popey | it looks stupid | 10:29 |
| AlanBell | yeah, interesting effect | 10:29 |
| AlanBell | shows which one has focus | 10:30 |
| AlanBell | and looks a bit stupid | 10:30 |
| nigelb | HEH | 10:31 |
| JanC | popey: that's more an issue of how multiple desktops are implemented IMO | 10:39 |
| popey | eh? | 10:39 |
| popey | its nothing to do with multiple desktops | 10:39 |
| AlanBell | indeed | 10:39 |
| JanC | oh, real screens? | 10:39 |
| popey | that bug is related to running recordmydesktop on a machine with one active screen/desktop | 10:40 |
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| AlanBell | the shadow problem is because the top bar is drawn with nux, but the shadow of the top bar is not drawn with nux | 10:40 |
| popey | the shadow seems to be just a png overlaid on top afterwards | 10:41 |
| popey | which seems very odd | 10:41 |
| JanC | I meant the shadow on windows that are snapped to the border | 10:41 |
| popey | oh | 10:41 |
| popey | still not a multi-screen issue :) | 10:42 |
| popey | one screen, two windows snapped to left and right | 10:42 |
| popey | the shadow from the active window bleeds over the top of the other windows | 10:42 |
| popey | which i think is wrong when you have deliberately snapped windows like that | 10:42 |
| JanC | it also draws shadows on the next virtual screen it seems, that's what I meant ;) | 10:43 |
| popey | eww | 10:43 |
| popey | nice | 10:43 |
| AlanBell | fail! | 10:43 |
| popey | aren't drop shadows a bit web 2.0 | 10:44 |
| popey | i.e. old | 10:44 |
| AlanBell | a bit OS X | 10:44 |
| popey | does OSX do them? | 10:44 |
| popey | never noticed | 10:44 |
| AlanBell | it does huge shadows | 10:44 |
| JanC | drop shadows are nice to set things apart | 10:44 |
| * popey looks for screenshots of this | 10:45 | |
| AlanBell | 40px for the active window in osX apparently | 10:46 |
| * AlanBell wonders what it could possibly be set to in unity . . . | 10:46 | |
| popey | A miiiiilllion pixels | 10:48 |
| * AlanBell crashes compiz | 10:49 | |
| AlanBell | I wonder if it will be possible to use ccsm to actually change anything without a reboot by release time | 10:51 |
| JanC | reboot? | 10:52 |
| AlanBell | well a hard compiz crash | 10:52 |
| JanC | ah, I thought a real reboot... ☺ | 10:52 |
| JanC | AlanBell: at least when it crashes all the leaked memory is gone too ;) | 10:53 |
| AlanBell | well to all intents and purposes, if compiz crashes it is reboot time | 10:53 |
| jussi | shadows are so last year :P | 10:53 |
| AlanBell | yes I can go to a console or ssh in, change display settings and restart it and log in again, or just reboot | 10:54 |
| JanC | I'm almost permanently logged in on tty1 on natty ;) | 10:55 |
| JanC | although, I haven't needed it for some time now | 10:55 |
| JanC | also, why change display settings? | 10:56 |
| AlanBell | because i want to simulate deuteranopia for example | 10:57 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: you can use the lay-man's terms. even I had to look that one up :P | 10:58 |
| AlanBell | colour filters | 10:58 |
| JanC | and why log in again? | 10:58 |
| AlanBell | so I want to see what my application looks like to colour blind people for example | 10:58 |
| popey | as bad as it does for people without colour blindness I guess :D | 10:58 |
| AlanBell | true, compiz restarts don't log you out | 10:58 |
| JanC | shouldn't that just work when you (re)start compiz/unity? | 10:59 |
| AlanBell | cheeky popey | 10:59 |
| AlanBell | not the point, using ccsm shouldn't be a recipe for instacrash | 10:59 |
| JanC | but I agree that needing a console is not exactly a solution for most people :-( | 10:59 |
| JanC | at least the alt+tab crashes seem to be gone | 11:01 |
| duanedesign | popey: hello | 11:33 |
| duanedesign | popey: i was about to move a couple that jorge did to the screencast site. | 11:34 |
| popey | duanedesign: they flicker horribly | 11:38 |
| duanedesign | hmm | 11:40 |
| popey | in the last week I've tried gtk-recordmydesktop, recordmydesktop, and ffmpeg, they all result in corrupt, rubbish looking video | 11:43 |
| popey | i even went so far as to buy a hardware capture device, a VGA2USB LR, which can capture directly from the VGA port to another computer | 11:43 |
| popey | this kinda works | 11:43 |
| duanedesign | popey: have you tried my script :) | 11:43 |
| popey | but I need to tune compiz to get the best out of it | 11:43 |
| popey | gimmie a link? | 11:44 |
| duanedesign | well, it uses ffmpeg so.... | 11:44 |
| popey | here's my ffmpeg line.... | 11:44 |
| duanedesign | It is what I hazve to use because recordmydesktop was not making very nice screencasts | 11:44 |
| popey | ffmpeg -f alsa -r 16000 -i hw:1,0 -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1280x720 -i :0.0 -vcodec huffyuv -sameq ~/Videos/`date +%y%m%d%H%M%S`-screencast.avi | 11:44 |
| popey | i ssh in from another machine, and do "export DISPLAY=:0.0" then run that script | 11:45 |
| popey | so you dont see any script running on the machine you're recording | 11:45 |
| duanedesign | popey: http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=175 | 11:45 |
| popey | I left it running for about an hour | 11:45 |
| popey | whilst I watched a youtube video | 11:45 |
| duanedesign | popey: that is a neat trick. I always just edit out the script showing at the end | 11:46 |
| duanedesign | i have it delay at the beginning long enough for me to switch workspaces | 11:46 |
| popey | yeah, i dont like editing :) | 11:46 |
| popey | switching workspaces wont help you in unity | 11:47 |
| popey | you'll still have a terminal open on the launcher | 11:47 |
| popey | your script looks similar to my one liner but you record to mpeg2 and not huffyuv | 11:47 |
| popey | i cant see much difference | 11:47 |
| popey | anyway the issue is more the overhead compiz places on the machine IMO | 11:48 |
| * duanedesign nods | 11:48 | |
| duanedesign | i was getting bad screen 'tearing' and the audio would not line up | 11:49 |
| popey | will certainly try your script tonight | 11:52 |
| popey | thanks | 11:52 |
| popey | my goal is to make short videos that require no editing at all | 11:54 |
| popey | (I hate editing, and want to just upload a video when its recorded) | 11:54 |
| duanedesign | popey: let me know what you think, or if you make any changes. Their is a lot that is commented out. Some stuff other people wanted in the script. | 12:00 |
| duanedesign | most the stuff commented out is converting to different formats | 12:00 |
| popey | i just called my wife to switch on my desktop and ran the script remotely via ssh :D | 12:02 |
| duanedesign | :) | 12:08 |
| dholbach | popey, Technoviking, is https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-membership-boards being used? | 12:18 |
| dholbach | can we tick that off our list? | 12:18 |
| dholbach | it's a public list | 12:18 |
| dholbach | nevermind, keeping it on the TODO | 12:22 |
| popey | dholbach: nope | 12:33 |
| nhandler | dholbach: I'd check if everyone is actually subscribed to it. I only found out about it when it got mentioned in the last discussion we had | 12:42 |
| popey | duanedesign: tip, add the url to your blog post to your screencast script :) | 12:46 |
| popey | duanedesign: minor patch for you.... | 12:55 |
| popey | baseName="`date +%Y%m%d`-`date +%H%M%S`-screencast" # default base filename for capture | 12:55 |
| popey | so you dont accidentially overwrite anything :) | 12:55 |
| popey | 20110418-125448-screencast.mpeg | 12:55 |
| popey | :) | 12:55 |
| kim0 | Daviey: hey, I'm mirroring your server bugs post to a blog entry, sounds good ? | 13:06 |
| duanedesign | popey: thank you! | 13:07 |
| Daviey | kim0, feel free :) thanks | 13:11 |
| akgraner | duanedesign, howdy - so I posted a couple short screen casts to FB...I'm getting there :-) but they aren't nearly as good as popey's or relaxed as much as jcastro's, but I am having fun.. | 13:13 |
| popey | akgraner: at least your machine can record them! :D | 13:14 |
| popey | akgraner: I'm gonna try duanedesign's script tonight | 13:14 |
| akgraner | popey, :-) | 13:14 |
| akgraner | oh yeah he does have a handy dandy script...maybe I should try that as well | 13:15 |
| akgraner | popey, let's hope my new machine will be as screencast friendly | 13:22 |
| akgraner | my dell has finally lost it's mind and just rebots on my 5 times a day | 13:22 |
| akgraner | (I think it's still overheating but the little gizmo I used to use doesn't work or has been deprecated or something in natty..and I haven't installed anything new yet so I can see...:-/ | 13:23 |
| akgraner | s/rebots/reboots even | 13:24 |
| * jussi recently got a new work machine - its very nice :) | 13:24 | |
| jussi | http://www.trustedreviews.com/HP-ProBook-5320m_Laptop_review | 13:27 |
| popey | wheeee | 13:28 |
| popey | work just asked me to work from home from 4pm till midnight, on call | 13:28 |
| popey | this means I get to go home now and play with screencasting | 13:28 |
| popey | \o/ | 13:28 |
| kim0 | jussi: "Mediocre image quality" is a feature ?! | 13:29 |
| jussi | kim0: ? | 13:29 |
| kim0 | on that link | 13:29 |
| kim0 | first feature | 13:29 |
| jussi | oh lol | 13:29 |
| kim0 | weirdo | 13:29 |
| jussi | no - I guess its referring to the 1366x768 panel | 13:31 |
| jussi | I wish it was a little better, but I mostly use it in the office with my 1920x1080 screen... | 13:31 |
| nigelb | jussi: darn, you're on irc.mozilla.org too :p | 13:32 |
| jussi | Im _everywhere_ :P :P | 13:32 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: trying to find places you can ascii? :P | 13:32 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: haha, good point :p | 13:32 |
| jussi | /aq Pendulum | 13:32 |
| jussi | :P | 13:32 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: but there is that channel jussi has... :p | 13:32 |
| nigelb | bah, I crossed another significant milestone | 13:33 |
| jussi | I swear I should setup #ubuntu-ascii and banforward popey and dholbach there :P :P | 13:33 |
| nigelb | I now need to zoom out of terminal twice to see all my tabs on irc | 13:33 |
| jussi | nigelb: you went "over the hill"? | 13:33 |
| nigelb | jussi: ok, I'm safe then :p | 13:33 |
| nigelb | jussi: haha | 13:33 |
| * popey figlet Hugs 4 Jussi | 13:34 | |
| popey | :D | 13:34 |
| jussi | haha | 13:34 |
| * popey took a lot of power to resist that | 13:34 | |
| nigelb | heh | 13:34 |
| jussi | oooh... todays xkcd is awesome :D | 13:35 |
| popey | checked duanedesign and i get the same issue, the stupid drop shadow at the top of the screen | 14:43 |
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| jono | kim0, about ready? | 16:01 |
| kim0 | jono: yeah | 16:01 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 16:01 |
| jono | hey dholbach | 16:02 |
| popey | duanedesign: http://popey.com/~alan/screencasts/20110418-160020-screencast.avi | 16:14 |
| popey | its not your script, nothing seems to be able to video unity properly | 16:14 |
| popey | be interested to know how akgraner does it | 16:15 |
| popey | (chances are I suspect akgraner doesn't have an nvidia card) | 16:15 |
| AlanBell | run it in virtualbox, video from the outside | 16:16 |
| AlanBell | I was going to suggest the compiz video recording plugin, but that won't see unity | 16:17 |
| popey | ugh@vbox | 16:17 |
| popey | i was trying to get away from that | 16:18 |
| popey | what's the best way to run unity in vbox these days? | 16:19 |
| AlanBell | yeah, sorry, only suggestion I can think of that will actually work | 16:19 |
| jcastro | I read something about needing beta guest extensions or something like that | 16:19 |
| popey | happy to try it | 16:19 |
| AlanBell | install natty, then in natty install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 | 16:20 |
| popey | all 3d works? | 16:20 |
| AlanBell | do not screw about with any other kind of guest additions on the host | 16:20 |
| AlanBell | yes, all 3d works | 16:20 |
| AlanBell | all you have to do is install that package inside the guest | 16:21 |
| popey | what iso would you install from? | 16:21 |
| AlanBell | desktop amd64 | 16:21 |
| popey | and which vbox? | 16:21 |
| popey | yeah, beta 1, 2, daily? | 16:21 |
| AlanBell | daily, but any would work | 16:22 |
| popey | and you use vbox from the repo? | 16:22 |
| popey | i have vbox 4 from 3rd party repo here | 16:22 |
| AlanBell | I am using the 3rd party one | 16:22 |
| AlanBell | it doesn't matter that it isn't ose | 16:22 |
| AlanBell | it is still the same graphics driver that needs loading in the guest | 16:23 |
| popey | thanks | 16:23 |
| AlanBell | and the "install guest additions" thing in the virtualbox user interface won't have the drivers for natty | 16:23 |
| popey | tick the box for 'enable 3d acceleration' ? | 16:24 |
| popey | for the vm | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | but as they are packaged up and in the natty repos the guest can get to them | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | yeah tick that | 16:24 |
| popey | any other twiddles? | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | nope | 16:24 |
| popey | gave it 4GB RAM and 128MB video ram | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | plenty | 16:24 |
| * popey wonders if the rdp server might be an optoion | 16:24 | |
| popey | or an option | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | that should work | 16:25 |
| popey | will play with that later | 16:25 |
| AlanBell | unless it is broken for 3d in general | 16:25 |
| AlanBell | but it should see unity as well as it would see any 3d guest operating system | 16:25 |
| * popey hugs Virgin cable for 2.3MB/s download during the day | 16:26 | |
| AlanBell | would be nice if Ubuntu detected it was running in virtualbox and grabbed that package on installation | 16:28 |
| popey | uhm | 16:28 |
| popey | VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED | 16:28 |
| popey | thats nice | 16:28 |
| AlanBell | oh, you don't have vmx? | 16:29 |
| popey | i jolly well do | 16:29 |
| popey | too much ram | 16:30 |
| popey | wound that down a bit and its okay | 16:30 |
| popey | uh | 16:31 |
| popey | now its complaining that i dont have an x86-64 cpu | 16:31 |
| AlanBell | did you select ubuntu (64 bit) | 16:32 |
| AlanBell | as the os type | 16:32 |
| popey | ah, no | 16:32 |
| popey | didnt spot that, thanks | 16:32 |
| popey | uh | 16:33 |
| popey | now its moaning that I dont have vmx | 16:33 |
| popey | yet I do | 16:33 |
| popey | "your vt-x/amd-v hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot" | 16:34 |
| popey | nothing in my bios to set/unset that | 16:37 |
| akgraner | popey, nope I have an intel card... | 16:38 |
| mhall119 | akgraner: are you guys going through JFK to Budapest? | 16:38 |
| popey | AlanBell: you running 2.6.38 generic? | 16:39 |
| AlanBell | 2.6.35-28-generic | 16:39 |
| AlanBell | on the host | 16:39 |
| AlanBell | 32 bit as well | 16:39 |
| AlanBell | Linux maverick 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux | 16:40 |
| popey | i had to rmmod the kvm and kvm_intel modules | 16:40 |
| popey | but I have never had vbox complain about not being able to set vmx before on this box | 16:40 |
| AlanBell | ah | 16:40 |
| popey | and kvm works | 16:40 |
| popey | still no worky | 16:40 |
| AlanBell | and we haven't got to the Natty bit yet :-/ | 16:42 |
| popey | my box is on natty | 16:42 |
| popey | host that is | 16:42 |
| AlanBell | oh, right | 16:42 |
| popey | its times like this I want to format all my disks and go and live in the woods | 16:42 |
| * popey reboots into maverick to see if that helps | 16:42 | |
| AlanBell | this should "just work" | 16:42 |
| popey | ok, i can 'continue' in vbox, but it thinks i have no vmx | 16:43 |
| popey | gah | 16:43 |
| popey | and back to the 'its not 64-bit' issue | 16:43 |
| AlanBell | or, use 32bit in the guest | 16:44 |
| popey | yeah | 16:45 |
| popey | somtimes this tinkering is fun, sometimes it just feels like a massive waste of time | 16:45 |
| popey | oh jeez | 16:46 |
| popey | booting into maverick I get nothing on the screen | 16:46 |
| popey | need an xorg.conf becuase the nvidia driver doesnt like my displays | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | you are in a maze of twisty passages, there are exits to the north and east | 16:47 |
| popey | \o/ copied xorg.conf from natty partition | 16:48 |
| popey | golly, this is nice and fast | 16:48 |
| popey | </troll> | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | you have just been eaten by a gru | 16:48 |
| popey | wow, i had forgotten how fast 10.10 is :( | 16:49 |
| popey | oh, my bad, this is 10.04 :) | 16:52 |
| popey | Interestingly that what i typed 'natty' as the description of the VM, Vbox 'knew' this was Ubuntu :) | 16:54 |
| popey | bah | 16:55 |
| popey | still says its not capable of 64-boit | 16:56 |
| popey | *bit | 16:56 |
| popey | http://pastebin.com/Xyf39w6K | 16:57 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/595564/ | 16:59 |
| * popey gets the 32-bit iso | 17:00 | |
| popey | might be better running this in 10.04 anyway, less overhead from unity/compiz/nu | 17:00 |
| AlanBell | yup | 17:01 |
| * popey switches on ffm and revels in the fact that it actually still works in 10.04 | 17:04 | |
| AlanBell | so focus follows mouse means that you don't have to click in windows to give them focus? | 17:06 |
| AlanBell | which means you can't type in one window mouse over another and scroll with the mouse wheel without moving back again? | 17:07 |
| akgraner | Jfo, Jono, jcastro et all - Here's the links to the ChipIn Page for Van Hoof - http://akgraner.com/?p=917 | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | and if your mouse drifts out of the window you are typing in your keystrokes go somewhere else? | 17:07 |
| jcastro | akgraner: ta! | 17:08 |
| jono | akgraner, oh my god, I didn't know that happened | 17:08 |
| akgraner | yep...ac unity crashed in on them during the tornado | 17:08 |
| popey | AlanBell: yes, but! | 17:09 |
| popey | AlanBell: you may notice that even with FFM _off_ you can still scroll a window without clicking it | 17:09 |
| AlanBell | yes, I do | 17:09 |
| akgraner | jono He just called us a few mins ago..the are very shook up..but safe and are staying with his parents atm | 17:09 |
| AlanBell | and I can still type in the first one | 17:09 |
| popey | which is even more infuriating because those of us who use ffm will do that then expect that typing will result in stuff in that window | 17:09 |
| JFo | akgraner, already posted about it :) | 17:10 |
| popey | yes, which is duff | 17:10 |
| popey | i386 installing btw | 17:10 |
| akgraner | JFo, thanks! | 17:10 |
| jcastro | akgraner: sent, thanks! | 17:10 |
| JFo | akgraner, :) | 17:10 |
| JFo | akgraner, was it a total loss or do they know yet? | 17:10 |
| AlanBell | I quite often type in one window and scroll up and down a web page or pdf manual with the mouse | 17:11 |
| popey | which is half-arsed ffm | 17:11 |
| AlanBell | or a happy medium ymmv | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | I can even scroll different windows in a virtualbox vm with the text focus staying in a window in the host | 17:13 |
| maco | wow | 17:13 |
| maco | popey: if you use alt+tab and are using focus follows mouse (not focus under mouse), then its not bad... | 17:14 |
| Pendulum | akgraner: oh no :( | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | has that chipin page been tweeted akgraner? | 17:14 |
| maco | though iirc, gnome has no distinction between focus follows mouse, focus under mouse, and focus strictly under mouse | 17:14 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, not yet..doing that now... | 17:15 |
| popey | the whole point of ffm maco is that you _don't_ use alt-tab | 17:16 |
| popey | or click on windows, at all | 17:16 |
| popey | you just put the mouse over the one you want to use and use it | 17:16 |
| AlanBell | I will have to code up some retweet functionality in circleoffriends | 17:16 |
| maco | popey: if the window you're currently on is maximised, you kinda have to use alt+tab... | 17:16 |
| maco | i mean, how do you get your mouse over a completely hidden window? | 17:16 |
| maco | i use a combination of ffm & alt+tab | 17:16 |
| popey | i dont have maximised windows | 17:16 |
| maco | oh, see, i maximise most windows | 17:16 |
| popey | well, i do, but its full screen on its own display | 17:16 |
| jono | akgraner, I will get the word out about the ChipIn page | 17:16 |
| maco | except umm..irc | 17:16 |
| maco | and if i had an im client open regularly, that wouldnt be maxed either | 17:17 |
| JFo | akgraner, just talked to krafty, he is fine as well, his roof is leaking a little, but other than that... | 17:17 |
| JFo | he said the whole building had been evacuated | 17:17 |
| JFo | I assume they will do a structural integrity check | 17:18 |
| maco | though, if i use a tiling window manager, then its definitely ffm. though xmonad has the possibility of moving keyboard-focus and mouse-focus independently | 17:18 |
| maco | can scroll the mouse on one window while typing in another because the focuses aren't tied together | 17:18 |
| akgraner | done twitted and dented | 17:20 |
| akgraner | JFo, yep that's what we heard...:-) | 17:20 |
| popey | hmm, the wording on the fallback screen still needs work | 17:21 |
| JFo | akgraner, thought I remembered you telling me that | 17:21 |
| popey | "It seems you do not have the hardware required to run Unity. Please choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment." | 17:21 |
| JFo | heh | 17:21 |
| akgraner | JFo, all I know is what you all know as soon as I find out more you'll know :-) | 17:21 |
| JFo | :-P | 17:21 |
| JFo | <-hopped up on coffee | 17:23 |
| JFo | I am having to retype everything due to spelling errors | 17:23 |
| JFo | bzzzz | 17:23 |
| JFo | :) | 17:23 |
| * AlanBell expects popey to be booting into a 3d unity about nowish | 17:25 | |
| akgraner | thanks jono! | 17:26 |
| popey | :) yup | 17:28 |
| AlanBell | yay \o/ | 17:28 |
| JFo | ooh, that reminds me... | 17:28 |
| AlanBell | and you can record it from the outside | 17:28 |
| * JFo goes to update his nettop | 17:28 | |
| * AlanBell ponders switching to Qt | 17:29 | |
| jcastro | jono: who would be a good contact for me for Linaro based questions? Joey Stanford fine? I have questions like track descriptions and whatnot, I don't want to bother the CTO dude with that sort of stuff | 17:29 |
| dholbach | jono, 1m? | 17:29 |
| jono | jcastro, Joey | 17:29 |
| popey | AlanBell: nope, its refusing | 17:29 |
| jono | dholbach, yep | 17:30 |
| popey | AlanBell: just drops me to classic session, even with "Ubuntu" selected on logon screen | 17:30 |
| * popey dist-upgrades | 17:30 | |
| jono | dholbach, give me one min, was wrapping up some debugging for the U1 team | 17:32 |
| jcastro | Daviey: ok the track leads are approving tracks now, can you kick the scheduler on? | 17:41 |
| popey | AlanBell: any ideas? | 17:43 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day | 17:50 |
| dholbach | see you all tomorrow | 17:50 |
| dholbach | BYE | 17:50 |
| AlanBell | popey: :( | 17:53 |
| AlanBell | um, so you installed virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 in the guest, have 3d ticked in the virtualbox machine settings? | 17:54 |
| popey | ah, i wonder if thats it | 17:55 |
| popey | bah, hadnt ticked that | 17:55 |
| Technoviking | jono: ping | 18:01 |
| jono | hey Technoviking | 18:03 |
| * AlanBell wonders if popey has unity now? | 18:04 | |
| * popey does | 18:04 | |
| popey | with an old school session | 18:04 |
| popey | grey panel, old ubuntu logo for bfb | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | no sidebar? | 18:05 |
| popey | yes, i have sidebar | 18:05 |
| popey | just looks like gnome-settings-daemon or whatever the new equiv of that is, has gone phut | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | ok, so 3d is working and the theme is busted | 18:06 |
| Technoviking | jono: if we have room in the UDS schedule, can we have a forums health session with forums folks and IS | 18:07 |
| popey | yeah, thanks for the help | 18:08 |
| jono | Technoviking, sure! | 18:08 |
| maco | i'd be surprised if the uds schedule was full already | 18:08 |
| jono | Technoviking, register a BP and submit it for the event | 18:08 |
| maco | its not even full by the third day :P | 18:08 |
| cjohnston | mornin | 18:12 |
| Technoviking | jono: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-forum-health | 18:16 |
| Technoviking | jono: thanks | 18:16 |
| JFo | I think we should have a 'general health' session on how to combad ubu-flu | 18:19 |
| JFo | ;-) | 18:19 |
| Technoviking | JFo: I'm already doubling my vitamins dose:) | 18:20 |
| JFo | same here | 18:20 |
| JFo | vitamin C for the win! | 18:20 |
| JFo | I'm taking my vitamins with me | 18:21 |
| JFo | :-) | 18:21 |
| cjohnston | +2 | 18:21 |
| JFo | Technoviking, I finally get to meet you in person... unless we have already met and I forgot... which, let's face it, is likely :-/ | 18:21 |
| Technoviking | heh | 18:21 |
| Technoviking | UDS is a wonderful wonderful blur always | 18:22 |
| Pendulum | JFo: I thought that was what jono's don't drink too much, but remember to eat and get sleep was about? | 18:23 |
| JFo | Technoviking, indeed :) | 18:23 |
| JFo | Pendulum, like I ever listen to jono in that regard ;-) | 18:24 |
| JFo | besides, most of the time it is his fault that I drank too much... | 18:24 |
| * JFo casts unnecessary blame :-D | 18:24 | |
| jono | JFo, true true | 18:25 |
| jono | :-) | 18:25 |
| JFo | heh | 18:25 |
| JFo | dude, I miss you jono | 18:25 |
| * JFo hugs his jono doll | 18:25 | |
| JFo | :-) | 18:25 |
| JFo | dunno which was creepier | 18:25 |
| jono | JFo, I miss you, brother, bring on Budapest | 18:25 |
| jono | lol | 18:26 |
| JFo | me saying I miss you or hugging the doll | 18:26 |
| jono | I just read the doll bit | 18:26 |
| JFo | heh, yep | 18:26 |
| jono | not creepy, romantic | 18:26 |
| JFo | awww | 18:26 |
| JFo | hahahaha | 18:26 |
| jono | JFo, I really wish you could meet Erica | 18:26 |
| JFo | I do too | 18:26 |
| jono | in fact I was talking aboiut you yesterday - I was telling her how she would dig you | 18:26 |
| jono | you would have a very small woman constantly hugging you | 18:26 |
| JFo | I'm planning a trip to SF/SJ area over the summer. | 18:26 |
| JFo | that would be awesome! | 18:27 |
| * JFo 's need love too | 18:27 | |
| jono | JFo, dude, you are more than welcome to stay here if you come out for a trip | 18:27 |
| Technoviking | allater all, off to class | 18:27 |
| JFo | jono, awesome! once I officially meet her, we may need to set some visits up | 18:28 |
| jono | JFo, yeah, we need to get you and the Graner's out | 18:28 |
| JFo | indeed, especially the Graners... Becca would never want to come back home | 18:28 |
| jcastro | jono: I can go as early as you want today | 18:34 |
| jcastro | jono: just got off a call with Joey, there's a bunch to talk about. :) | 18:35 |
| jono | thanks jcastro | 18:35 |
| jono | jcastro, I have to eat something before I pass out - I have been on the phone all morning and not had any breakfast yet | 18:42 |
| jono | then will call you | 18:42 |
| jcastro | ok | 18:43 |
| jcastro | mhall119: cjohnston: the column view per day lost the amount of people the room holds | 18:43 |
| jcastro | so it says | 18:43 |
| jcastro | roomname roomname roomname | 18:43 |
| jcastro | it should be | 18:43 |
| jcastro | roomname(15) roomname(25) etc. | 18:43 |
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| jcastro | Daviey: around? | 18:47 |
| jono | akgraner, the Van Hoof fund is doing great :-) | 18:48 |
| akgraner | jono, yay! | 18:49 |
| jono | akgraner, I am going to throw in some money when I am done with calls | 18:49 |
| jcastro | @#$%#@$^% | 18:50 |
| jcastro | Daviey: why do breaks break up long slots? | 18:51 |
| akgraner | Thanks jono! They'll really appreciate that - and they were in the middle of planning a wedding too...this just sucks for them | 18:51 |
| Daviey | jcastro: pass! | 18:51 |
| jono | akgraner, I feel for them | 18:52 |
| jono | I love though how it shows human genorisity when in a few hours nearly $1000 is raised | 18:52 |
| jcastro | Daviey: ok, so the colors, we know how to fix that right? | 18:53 |
| akgraner | jono, that it does! :-) | 18:57 |
| Daviey | jcastro: yeah.. I wonder if cjohnston wants to fix that 'properly' :) | 18:59 |
| jcastro | I got the slot thing | 19:00 |
| jcastro | I just deleted the "break" slot | 19:00 |
| jcastro | the breaks "count" as session slots | 19:00 |
| jcastro | so if you select a session for 2 blocks | 19:00 |
| jcastro | and the break is inbetween = doomed | 19:00 |
| Daviey | jcastro: blame mhall119 :) | 19:06 |
| Daviey | (or popey) | 19:06 |
| jcastro | Daviey: ok so all I need now are the colors and turn on the autosucking in from LP | 19:07 |
| Daviey | jcastro: The colours are a bite size fix | 19:09 |
| Daviey | Just needs adding to the css. | 19:09 |
| cjohnston | Daviey: what am i fixing | 19:09 |
| cjohnston | the #? | 19:10 |
| Daviey | cjohnston: the colours for summit tracks :D | 19:10 |
| * Daviey wishes he had a cjohnston around the house. | 19:10 | |
| cjohnston | I dont know how :-P | 19:10 |
| Daviey | cjohnston: yeah you do :) | 19:10 |
| Daviey | you just don't know you do yet. | 19:10 |
| cjohnston | I can take a look.. I'm at work today so no guarentees | 19:10 |
| cjohnston | who broke the numbers | 19:11 |
| Daviey | cjohnston: see summit/media/css/schedule.css | 19:11 |
| cjohnston | and by "we know how to fix that" what does that mean | 19:11 |
| Daviey | div.meeting.ubuntutheproject { background-color: #ffb9f4; } | 19:12 |
| Daviey | div.meeting.packageselection { background-color: #FF4500; } | 19:12 |
| Daviey | div.meeting.cloud { background-color: #c1cdcd; } | 19:12 |
| cjohnston | ok | 19:12 |
| Daviey | etc, if a background is white - it means you can stab jcastro for changing the track names. | 19:12 |
| cjohnston | sounds good | 19:12 |
| cjohnston | Daviey: can we get an updated db as seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/SummitJam | 19:14 |
| Daviey | cjohnston: snapshot of the production db? | 19:15 |
| jcastro | Daviey: oh wait | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | yes | 19:15 |
| jcastro | Daviey: we don't just assign colors, we like, hardcode those? | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | please | 19:15 |
| jcastro | oh no wonder | 19:15 |
| Daviey | jcastro: yeah... the proper fix would be something not hardcoded :P | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | file the bug as jcastro borked it | 19:15 |
| jcastro | I didn't bork anything | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | Daviey said you did | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | JFo is on the front page of summit | 19:16 |
| Daviey | jcastro: Yeah, just blaming you. | 19:16 |
| jcastro | it's ok, I blame you for everything else. :) | 19:16 |
| cjohnston | you took out the break! | 19:17 |
| jcastro | ok so I should file a bug then right? | 19:17 |
| cjohnston | boo! | 19:17 |
| jcastro | Daviey: but autosucking in the bp's from lp is your fault right? | 19:17 |
| Daviey | yeah | 19:17 |
| cjohnston | but we fix the bugs we create :-P | 19:18 |
| cjohnston | you make us fix the bugs you create | 19:18 |
| mhall119 | Daviey: jcastro: I didn't change the way breaks and slots behave together, so I'm gonna say "not my fault" on this one | 19:19 |
| cjohnston | I don't think we have ever tried to have something span multiple sessions | 19:19 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: if you want to remove the 'break' slots, the times for everything else shouldn't be affected | 19:19 |
| Daviey | cjohnston, we have | 19:19 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: we have in teh past | 19:19 |
| AlanBell | one meeting can be in multiple slots | 19:19 |
| Daviey | you can set the topic length in the admin ui | 19:20 |
| cjohnston | oh | 19:20 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/764984 | 19:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 764984 in summit "Colors need to be adjusted for UDS-O" [Undecided,New] | 19:20 |
| AlanBell | I was just trying to figure out how to get the agenda item for a meeting and found I could create multiple agenda items for the same meeting | 19:21 |
| akgraner | JFo, hahaha - "I need to meet the Mrs. Bacon"... | 19:21 |
| akgraner | http://jeremy-foshee.blogspot.com/2011/04/woe-of-burnout.html?spref=tw | 19:21 |
| Daviey | cjohnston, whilst fixing that, fancy fixing the trackfix management command to reflect the new track titles? :) | 19:21 |
| Daviey | and BBQ'ing me a pony? | 19:22 |
| Pici | D: | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | trackfix management command? | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | looking | 19:22 |
| mhall119 | mmmm, BBQ pony | 19:23 |
| cjohnston | Daviey: whats wrong with the trackfix management command? | 19:24 |
| AlanBell | ok, need some help | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | so I have a summit meeting in the context of my html template | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | need to find out what rooms and times it is in | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | so it's list of associated agenda items | 19:27 |
| popey | bah! | 19:28 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, you might need to explain the problem in a different way, i don't follow | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | ok, I added something to urls.py so that I can go to http://localhost:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ | 19:29 |
| AlanBell | where full-of-awesome is a meeting slug | 19:29 |
| Daviey | ok | 19:30 |
| AlanBell | added a function to views.py which gets a handle to the meeting with: meeting = get_object_or_404(summit.meeting_set, name__iexact=meeting_slug) | 19:30 |
| Daviey | ok | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | and then does render_to_response of a new html template and passing in the meeting in the context | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | just like the by_track function for example | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | so, I can include in the html stuff like {{ meeting.title }} which works great | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | but there is no {{ meeting.room }} because room isn't a property of meeting | 19:32 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, fancy pastebining a diff? :) | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | I am looking for something like meeting.agenda_items() to get me a list of stuff to itterate through | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/595621/ | 19:34 |
| Daviey | well you can do JOINS with object.objects.filter(object__field='something').. that might be what you need | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | end result I am going for is like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/sessionprototype.html | 19:35 |
| JFo | akgraner, :-D | 19:36 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: you working on summit or LD? | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | summit | 19:39 |
| mhall119 | I don't think summit meetings have agenda lists | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | well there is an agenda item object with slot/room/meeting as properties | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | I just can't get from the meeting back up to the agenda item | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | have you tried meeting.agenda_set.all()? | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | {fk_model}}_set is the default naming scheme in Django | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | that sounds good | 19:41 |
| * AlanBell knows nothing about django | 19:41 | |
| mhall119 | you picked a horrible project to start with then :( | 19:41 |
| * AlanBell isn't scared of no summit | 19:42 | |
| mhall119 | you will be, (in ominous Yoda voice) you will be... | 19:43 |
| AlanBell | ooh, that works | 19:45 |
| AlanBell | template stuff is quite funky, not real python and not quite anything else I recognise | 19:46 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: where are you seeing that the number of people the room can hold isnt included | 19:51 |
| akgraner | popey, loving the uupc site... | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | ooh render.py is spikey | 20:03 |
| cjohnston | hehehe | 20:05 |
| jono | jcastro, I lost you | 20:06 |
| AlanBell | yay, it works | 20:18 |
| AlanBell | just need a pretty icon | 20:18 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: oh it was just loading slow | 20:18 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: render.py is a bad place | 20:19 |
| AlanBell | it is! | 20:20 |
| AlanBell | lp:alanbell/summit/etherpad if you want a look Daviey mhall119 | 20:26 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, do you have it running somewhere accessible? | 20:28 |
| * AlanBell tinkers with router | 20:28 | |
| * Daviey is lazy. | 20:29 | |
| Pendulum | Daviey: we knew that already :P | 20:29 |
| AlanBell | http://libertus.co.uk:8000 perhaps | 20:30 |
| cjohnston | nope | 20:30 |
| Daviey | Pendulum, har har | 20:30 |
| * AlanBell tinkers again | 20:30 | |
| Daviey | AlanBell, how did you start it? | 20:30 |
| Pendulum | Daviey: you know I love you :P | 20:30 |
| Daviey | Pendulum, fine line between love and hate eh? | 20:30 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, ./manage.py runserver 0:8000 | 20:31 |
| Daviey | ? | 20:31 |
| AlanBell | Daviey: good point | 20:31 |
| Pendulum | Daviey: :( | 20:31 |
| * AlanBell sees people looking at it | 20:31 | |
| cjohnston | i see links to the wiki for sessions | 20:32 |
| Daviey | tick tock.. | 20:32 |
| AlanBell | should see a little icon to the left of the title | 20:32 |
| AlanBell | and it has just gone slow | 20:32 |
| cjohnston | ok | 20:32 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, it's single threaded, so we are in thread warz | 20:33 |
| * AlanBell restarts | 20:33 | |
| AlanBell | http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/2011-04-14/ is what you want | 20:33 |
| jussi | Daviey: do you know how the etherpad prgress for uds is going? | 20:33 |
| AlanBell | icon just to the left of the title of either instance of the meeting will take you to | 20:34 |
| AlanBell | http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ | 20:34 |
| cjohnston | hmm | 20:35 |
| * Daviey passes AlanBell a bzr add summit/schedule/templates/meeting.html | 20:35 | |
| AlanBell | oops | 20:35 |
| Daviey | jussi, no recent changes afaik | 20:35 |
| AlanBell | will do Daviey | 20:35 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, yeah, i managed to get to the page :) | 20:35 |
| jussi | ok, does it look like happening? should I recruit a load of idle people to test it? :D | 20:36 |
| Daviey | jussi, that might be a possibility, but hold fire right now. jcastro is the contact for Getting This Done. :) | 20:36 |
| jussi | ok :) | 20:37 |
| AlanBell | jussi: I hope it goes ahead or I just wasted a couple of hours | 20:38 |
| jussi | :D | 20:38 |
| Daviey | jussi, something really awesome that would be nice if it got done regardless, would be a ubuntu etherpad theme... got any ideas of people who are a bit whizzy with css/js/html ? | 20:38 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, I think i'll run my sessions from it TBH. And i think jcastro will, so don't worry about that! | 20:38 |
| jussi | hrm, not off the top of my head, but Ill keep my eyes open | 20:39 |
| Daviey | jussi, cool | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | with this patch you won't see the etherpad at all | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | AlanBell: is that running etherpad on the same server as summit? | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | nope | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | that would be a configuration URL somewhere | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | right now hardcoded to primarypad.com | 20:40 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, can the pad url be a settings.py value ? | 20:40 |
| AlanBell | sure | 20:40 |
| cjohnston | looks like that costs $$? | 20:40 |
| AlanBell | and it can be pointed at any etherpad that accepts themes on the querystring | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: no, we wouldn't use primarypad.com | 20:41 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, does my pad not do that? | 20:41 |
| cjohnston | what would we use | 20:42 |
| Daviey | cjohnston, TBC | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | Daviey: nope http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/uds-o-full-of-awesome?_theme=micro | 20:42 |
| * Daviey wonders what has caused that not to work | 20:43 | |
| AlanBell | missing the micro theme perhaps? | 20:43 |
| Daviey | the micro theme is in place... but not sure why the query string isn't accepted | 20:43 |
| Daviey | i'll have to grok the logs for an indicator of the error | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: we would use our own etherpad server hosted somewhere, but I wasn't going to wait for that to exist before coding up the summit enhancement | 20:44 |
| cjohnston | gotcha | 20:44 |
| cjohnston | Daviey: what do we need to do to get this pushed through? | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: what do you think of it? | 20:45 |
| james_w | is there a required naming scheme for UDS blueprints this time? | 20:54 |
| cjohnston | I think its still track-o-title | 20:56 |
| james_w | does that associate it with a track in summit? | 20:57 |
| cjohnston | I'm not sure that they are automatically associated | 20:58 |
| Daviey | james_w, it does yes | 20:59 |
| Daviey | cjohnston, that is what trackfix tries to do. | 20:59 |
| cjohnston | gotcha | 21:00 |
| james_w | Daviey, thanks, so it should be <track from slug in summit>-o-title? | 21:00 |
| Daviey | james_w, yes | 21:00 |
| james_w | thanks | 21:00 |
| james_w | Daviey, will the fact that some tracks have hyphens in the name screw it up? | 21:01 |
| Daviey | james_w, no, that (will be) fine. | 21:01 |
| Daviey | james_w, i see linaro has gone track crazy http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ :) | 21:01 |
| james_w | indeed :-) | 21:01 |
| Daviey | james_w, I assume it's ok for linaro-* to have the same css colour ? | 21:01 |
| cjohnston | yes they have | 21:01 |
| james_w | Daviey, we would like at least slightly different I guess | 21:02 |
| james_w | Daviey, the linaro css we are hoping to add could presumably just make Ubuntu sessions all one colour, and use different colours for each Linaro track though | 21:03 |
| james_w | that would probably be fine | 21:03 |
| Daviey | james_w, Would someone in linaro be able to pick a palette and varying shades, and megre proposal the css for the tracks in summit/media/css/schedule.css ? | 21:03 |
| Daviey | james_w, ah, that is a good point | 21:04 |
| Daviey | james_w, Will that be ok for the LCD screens? | 21:04 |
| Daviey | The LCD screens in the hallways being Ubuntu specifc, showing linaro sessions as one colour? | 21:04 |
| james_w | Daviey, I don't know what the plan is there, I heard rumours that we would have a couple of Linaro screens too | 21:04 |
| Daviey | james_w, Well that sounds quite clean, if Linaro is a second class citizien on the ubuntu screens, and ubuntu is the same to the linaro screens | 21:05 |
| Daviey | I'd rather look at screens and be able to mentally ignoreish one colour. | 21:05 |
| Daviey | and i imagine some of the linaro folk think the same. | 21:05 |
| james_w | Daviey, leave it with me, and I'll find out what is going on, and get the merge proposal if we need to | 21:06 |
| * james_w expands the colour space | 21:06 | |
| Daviey | james_w, lovely! | 21:06 |
| cjohnston | Daviey: mhall119 had mentioned adding a new field to the track slug allowing the picking of colors in admin.. I don't know if django offers something liek that easially tho | 21:06 |
| Daviey | ideally, there would be some deterministic auto colour generation per track... but sounds like hard work :) | 21:07 |
| cjohnston | heh | 21:07 |
| Daviey | cjohnston, yeah... ideally it would use some logic to determine a colour for itself. | 21:07 |
| AlanBell | I was just going to suggest adding a hex string to the track | 21:07 |
| Daviey | seing how many tracks there are makes that a less fu task, doing it manually | 21:07 |
| cjohnston | maybe if certain people stopped changing track names | 21:08 |
| * Daviey glares at jcastro | 21:08 | |
| cjohnston | heh | 21:09 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: do you have the original wiki performance thread handy? | 21:30 |
| jcastro | Daviey: what's the question about CSS colors? | 21:33 |
| AlanBell | https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-November/001084.html | 21:34 |
| jcastro | jono: ^ | 21:41 |
| jono | thanks jcastro | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | my understanding is that they were going to hire someone(they didn't ask me) for a couple of weeks to code up the openID plugin for the new version | 21:45 |
| james_w | AlanBell, it's been done | 21:47 |
| james_w | they are currently upgrading some smaller wikis to iron out the issues | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | great | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | james_w: are you involved with the wiki effort? | 21:54 |
| james_w | AlanBell, just one of the smaller wikis used for testing | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | I would kind of like to do a moin extension to set the canonical link so that google searches go to wiki.ubuntu.com or wiki.{k|ed}ubuntu.org as appropriate | 21:56 |
| AlanBell | but I can't be bothered to do it if it is going to take a year to get deployed | 21:56 |
| jono | AlanBell, I have followed to up with IS to see what is going on with the wiki work | 22:19 |
| AlanBell | thanks | 22:19 |
| AlanBell | jono: see my summit enhancement? | 22:20 |
| jono | AlanBell, no? | 22:21 |
| AlanBell | jono: http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ | 22:22 |
| AlanBell | notes pages with embedded etherpad in the summit UI | 22:22 |
| jono | AlanBell, schaweeeeet! | 22:22 |
| AlanBell | the track listings grow an extra icon like this http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/2011-04-14/ | 22:22 |
| jono | I want to make sure we test this fully before we rely on it for UDS | 22:22 |
| jono | particularly as summit is held together with sellotape and chewing gum | 22:23 |
| jono | so I would want to make sure IS do some stress testing | 22:23 |
| AlanBell | well this bit is dead simple | 22:23 |
| jono | that is awesome though :-) | 22:23 |
| AlanBell | it just needs a stress tested etherpad server somewhere | 22:23 |
| AlanBell | and with this setup we don't have to theme the etherpad server or do anything fancy to it | 22:24 |
| jono | AlanBell, cool, so it could be cool to hook you up with Charlie in IS to help make that train roll | 22:24 |
| AlanBell | well probably Daviey and jcastro have that in hand along with the others on the -devel mailing list | 22:25 |
| AlanBell | might need an executive decision to make it so | 22:25 |
| paultag | <make it so> | 22:26 |
| AlanBell | <number one> | 22:26 |
| jono | heh | 22:26 |
| paultag | :) | 22:27 |
| AlanBell | the summit patch should be relatively uncontroversial in terms of performance I think Daviey mhall119? | 22:27 |
| jono | phew | 22:27 |
| jono | busy days | 22:27 |
| jono | I have literally been on the phone since 7.30am | 22:27 |
| jono | and now it is about 2.30pm and I can get something to eat | 22:27 |
| AlanBell | nom | 22:29 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: which QR code is that on your meeting details page? | 22:38 |
| AlanBell | it points to meeting.wiki_url | 22:39 |
| AlanBell | but could be pointed anywhere considered useful, or removed | 22:40 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: we currently have qrcodes to the conventionist/guidebook app we're going to be using | 22:42 |
| AlanBell | it is generated on the fly by google, just change the bit in the middle of the URL, I put {{ meeting.wiki_url }} https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki&choe=UTF-8.png | 22:42 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: have you talked to jcastro or Daviey about using primarypad.com? | 22:44 |
| AlanBell | no, we are not going to use primarypad.com | 22:44 |
| mhall119 | ok | 22:45 |
| AlanBell | we are going to use a server that does not yet exist | 22:45 |
| mhall119 | sounds exciting | 22:45 |
| AlanBell | in the absence of such a server, I temporarily pointed it at primarypad.com because it works | 22:46 |
| AlanBell | the url in the iframe is http://primarypad.com/uds-o-full-of-awesome?_theme=micro | 22:47 |
| AlanBell | which is http://<padserver>/{{summit.name}}-{{meeting.name}}?_theme=micro | 22:48 |
| AlanBell | and we just change padserver to point to whatever we want, or as Daviey suggested put it in settings.py or somewhere. I dunno. | 22:48 |
| AlanBell | what are the next steps here? | 22:59 |
| AlanBell | I guess I can't do a merge request until we have a real server to point it at | 22:59 |
| jcastro | Daviey: around? | 23:54 |
| cjohnston | mhall119: hook us up with a server for etherpad | 23:59 |
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