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dholbachgood morning07:51
dholbacha friend just told me about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fabric/+bug/738669 - is anybody interested in fixing this one for natty?08:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 738669 in fabric (Ubuntu) "fabric broken in natty" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:14
dholbachnevermind, I'll have a look at it myself :)08:18
dholbachhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fabric/+bug/764310 has a sync bug for debian - it'd be nice if somebody from the release team could have a look08:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 764310 in fabric (Ubuntu) "Please sync fabric 0.9.3-1 from Debian sid" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:25
toabctldoes the behavior for the middle mouse button changed in natty? i can no longer use it to copy text..08:31
ajmitchdholbach: sid doesn't have fabric 1.0?08:55
ajmitchhm, it doesn't, that's a shame08:57
dholbachajmitch, 0.9.3 might be easier to get in considering being that close to release09:00
ajmitchdholbach: right, it's just unfortunately not the stable release :)09:04
* dholbach nods09:04
dholbachcan somebody review the lp:ubuntu-packaging-guide merge proposals please?09:18
iulianAh! Was so close! Apparently, pitti was faster than me.09:43
* iulian is still trying to wake up.09:43
iulianMorning by the way.09:43
ajmitchiulian: more coffee helps :)09:51
iulian:)09:52
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hrwhelo10:46
bdrungtumbleweed: please go ahead with bug #71272112:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 712721 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[sponsor-patch] help doesn't make it obvious workdir or upload is required" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71272112:32
tumbleweedsure12:35
tumbleweedare we waiting for it to be buildable in sid?12:35
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bdrungtumbleweed: yes12:51
bdrungtumbleweed: will file a bug against python-launchpadlib12:52
tumbleweedbdrung: I don't know if its really bug-worthy it's a transition12:52
bdrungtumbleweed: but binNMU do not work on arch all package, do they?12:53
tumbleweedno not yet, but POX has been NMUing lower level libraries12:53
tumbleweedone of us could probably just nmu launchpadlib if DktrKranz doesn't do a new upload soon (prod)12:54
bdrungtumbleweed: so we need this bug report anyway12:54
tumbleweedPOX was doing 0-day NMUs without reports, but yeah, politeness doesn't hurt :)12:55
bdrungtumbleweed: what severity should i give the bug?13:08
tumbleweedimportant? considering it'll get an NMU13:09
bdrungi would go for serious (to make it a rc bug)13:10
tumbleweedfine with me13:14
bdrungtumbleweed: why do we suggest "qemu-user-static | qemu-kvm-extras-static"?13:23
tumbleweedpbuilder-dist supports armel13:24
DktrKranztumbleweed, bdrung: no chance to do a launchpadlib upload until this evening, CEST time. If you can ping me again later, I won't forget13:55
DktrKranzif needed now, feel freee to do a team upload13:55
bdrungDktrKranz: today's evening is sufficient.13:57
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bdrungDktrKranz: ping. when is "later"?16:26
tumbleweedbdrung: I suppose I should have another look at those lp-project-upload merge requests16:27
bdrungtumbleweed: yes. we should process all merge requests before the upload.16:29
DktrKranzbdrung: I noticed I have to upload all the stack (wadllib and lazr*)16:29
DktrKranzI think I can do them around 21 CEST16:30
bdrungk16:30
bdrungDktrKranz: CEST = utc + 2?16:31
DktrKranzyes16:31
tumbleweedDktrKranz: aah I didn't look, I just test-built launchpadlib. Are there any dependancies below you that still need rebuilds?16:31
DktrKranzoauth?16:31
bdrungtumbleweed: i filed i reminder for me: bug #76476316:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 764763 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "Integrate ack-sync into sponsor-patch" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76476316:33
tumbleweedDktrKranz: ouath looks looks liket it's python-support so it's ok16:33
dholbachcan somebody please review the lp:ubuntu-packaging-guide merge proposals?16:43
bdrungtumbleweed: what do you think about changing the versioning of u-d-t?17:17
bdrungx.y.z where x is rarely changed, y introduces new features, z contains only bug fixes17:18
tumbleweedfine with me, it's helpful to users too17:18
bdrunggoing for 1.0 once all scripts that do not belong there are moved to their correct place17:18
tumbleweedit does mean new features will take longer to get to users, though17:19
bdrungtumbleweed: really? it's just the numbering17:19
tumbleweedwell assuming we aren't afraid to bump y whenever we want to.17:20
bdrungi assume that17:20
tumbleweedfine with me17:20
bdrunghaving bug fix numbers prevent y to get over 100 quickly17:21
bdrungtumbleweed: should we have a u-d-t session at uds?17:21
tumbleweedI suppose we should push harder on devscripts (which means either preparing some perl scripts or a devscripts-python or a patch adding a python script to devscripts)17:21
tumbleweedare we expecting any devscripts maintainers to be at UDS?17:22
bdrungdevscripts-python is a no go17:22
tumbleweedgoing to debconf btw? I'll try to make it, but haven't booked anything yet (hoping for some sponsorship)17:23
bdrungtumbleweed: dunno (re devscripts maintainers).17:23
bdrungtumbleweed: i probably wont go to debconf17:24
bdrungtumbleweed: will you go to UDS?17:24
tumbleweedyes, I'll be at UDS, so let's talk about u-d-t there.17:25
bdrungtumbleweed: let's try to get some devscripts maintainers there!17:26
tumbleweedheh17:26
tumbleweedI assume we can expect zack, he's the only devscripts uploader I can see registered for UDS.17:27
tumbleweederr, I can't see any others, but I assume he'll be there17:28
bdrungtumbleweed: IIRC zack has a schedule conflict and won't attend UDS17:29
tumbleweedaah17:30
bdrungtumbleweed: do you know where i find the mailman page for pkg-devscripts@teams.debian.net?17:31
bdrungtumbleweed: should i setup a ppa for devscripts?18:15
tumbleweedbdrung: seems there's an incorrect A record for teams.debian.net. Try http://aietes.turmzimmer.net/index.html18:22
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bdrungDktrKranz: here's the python-launchpadlib ping :)21:09
DktrKranzhere's python-launchpadlib pong :)21:12
onizukahello21:32
onizukasomebody here ?21:33
onizukaa question I have, a question can I ask ?21:34
cyphermox_onizuka, just ask it :)21:35
onizukaok beginner question I think, when a new open source project starts how are you supposed to register the name21:36
onizukato avoid package name conflict for the first release ?21:36
macoi'd just google it and see if its in use yet21:37
macoyou could do "apt-cache search <name>" to see if there are any packages in ubuntu as well21:37
onizukaindeed I agree, you just hope nobody release a project with the same name until the end of your project21:38
macothere's no foss-wide "registration" though...21:38
onizukawhat about commercial projects21:38
onizukaimagine a company using ubuntu repository21:38
macoin canonical's partner repo?21:38
onizukayes for example21:39
macocommercial companies may wish to register a trademark in their country21:39
onizukaimagine coca-coca has a library libcocacola21:39
onizukacoca-cola sorry21:39
onizukawant it in its own repository21:40
onizukaand somebody release it as an open source project21:40
bdrungtumbleweed: fyi: https://code.launchpad.net/~devscripts-dev/+recipe/daily21:40
macoonizuka: there's nothing in foss to cover registration of names. that's trademark law. you do that at the country level21:41
macotwo bits of software can share a name if neither party trademarks it21:41
macoits confusing for users, but there's no rule against it21:41
macoif you're worried someone will steal your name, trademark it21:41
onizukamaco > it's just for an open source project21:42
cyphermox_or release before they do ;)21:42
onizukadon't want to buy a domain name21:42
macocyphermox_: or stake out a spot on launchpad or sourceforge or github or whatever first :P21:42
onizukamaco > i think it is more parano than concrete fears21:43
macoi agree21:43
onizukamaco > anyway thank's for your answers it is why I came here21:43
onizukamaco > have a good day21:43
cyphermox_onizuka, what maco said is true though -- if it's a foss project, register it in LP now, that way people have a chance to know you're working on something by that name21:43
onizukacyphermox_, LP ?21:44
cyphermox_onizuka, I mean in Launchpad21:44
onizukaok !21:44
onizukacyphermox_, nice idea, sourceforge too ?21:44
onizukalaunchpad is enough ?21:45
cyphermox_onizuka, depends what you want to do, do you need features in sourceforge or launchpad? use what is fit for the task, no need to register a project somewhere if you're not going to use the site21:45
onizukacyphermox_, ok !! this situation is annoying !! I'll make an official project for projects' name reservation !21:47
onizukacyphermox_, maco i'll keep you in touch if i hava the opportunity21:48
onizukacyphermox_, maco, have a nice day, many thanks for your help21:48
tumbleweedbdrung: cool (although I see it already failed)21:49
bdrungtumbleweed: some bzr issue21:49
tumbleweedyeah21:49
tumbleweedDktrKranz looks like he's almost done21:49
bdrungtumbleweed: are you subscribed to pkg-devscripts?21:50
tumbleweedno21:51
* tumbleweed supposes he should21:51
DktrKranzbdrung, tumbleweed: upload in progress21:53
bdrungthanks21:54
bdrungtumbleweed: lp:devscripts is outdated!21:57
tumbleweedaah21:57
tumbleweedyeah it moved to git21:57
matttbeHello,22:05
matttbeI'm looking for a sponsor to upload Cairo-Dock packages on Natty? Is someone can help us?22:05
matttbethis is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo-dock/+bug/72399422:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 723994 in cairo-dock (Ubuntu Natty) "FFe: Please update Cairo-Dock to 2.3.0~0rc1 version" [Wishlist,New]22:05
matttbeI also have another question: if there is a newer version of these packages (2.3.0 stable) which fix a few bugs, should I have to open a new bug report or can I update bzr branches and join a new debdiff?22:08
bdrungmatttbe: if it only contains bug fixes and no new features, you don't need a ffe for it22:09
matttbebdrung: and should I have to wait for the upload of the 2.3.0~0rc1 version or not?22:10
bdrungmatttbe: dunno. if the old version is still available, i would say no.22:11
bdrungtumbleweed: once this is done (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/153360), the daily build should work22:19
bdrungtumbleweed: i am going to bed now. feel free to do the u-d-t upload22:33

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