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dholbach | good morning | 07:51 |
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dholbach | a friend just told me about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fabric/+bug/738669 - is anybody interested in fixing this one for natty? | 08:14 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 738669 in fabric (Ubuntu) "fabric broken in natty" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:14 |
dholbach | nevermind, I'll have a look at it myself :) | 08:18 |
dholbach | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fabric/+bug/764310 has a sync bug for debian - it'd be nice if somebody from the release team could have a look | 08:25 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 764310 in fabric (Ubuntu) "Please sync fabric 0.9.3-1 from Debian sid" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:25 |
toabctl | does the behavior for the middle mouse button changed in natty? i can no longer use it to copy text.. | 08:31 |
ajmitch | dholbach: sid doesn't have fabric 1.0? | 08:55 |
ajmitch | hm, it doesn't, that's a shame | 08:57 |
dholbach | ajmitch, 0.9.3 might be easier to get in considering being that close to release | 09:00 |
ajmitch | dholbach: right, it's just unfortunately not the stable release :) | 09:04 |
* dholbach nods | 09:04 | |
dholbach | can somebody review the lp:ubuntu-packaging-guide merge proposals please? | 09:18 |
iulian | Ah! Was so close! Apparently, pitti was faster than me. | 09:43 |
* iulian is still trying to wake up. | 09:43 | |
iulian | Morning by the way. | 09:43 |
ajmitch | iulian: more coffee helps :) | 09:51 |
iulian | :) | 09:52 |
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hrw | helo | 10:46 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: please go ahead with bug #712721 | 12:32 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 712721 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[sponsor-patch] help doesn't make it obvious workdir or upload is required" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712721 | 12:32 |
tumbleweed | sure | 12:35 |
tumbleweed | are we waiting for it to be buildable in sid? | 12:35 |
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bdrung | tumbleweed: yes | 12:51 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: will file a bug against python-launchpadlib | 12:52 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: I don't know if its really bug-worthy it's a transition | 12:52 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: but binNMU do not work on arch all package, do they? | 12:53 |
tumbleweed | no not yet, but POX has been NMUing lower level libraries | 12:53 |
tumbleweed | one of us could probably just nmu launchpadlib if DktrKranz doesn't do a new upload soon (prod) | 12:54 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: so we need this bug report anyway | 12:54 |
tumbleweed | POX was doing 0-day NMUs without reports, but yeah, politeness doesn't hurt :) | 12:55 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: what severity should i give the bug? | 13:08 |
tumbleweed | important? considering it'll get an NMU | 13:09 |
bdrung | i would go for serious (to make it a rc bug) | 13:10 |
tumbleweed | fine with me | 13:14 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: why do we suggest "qemu-user-static | qemu-kvm-extras-static"? | 13:23 |
tumbleweed | pbuilder-dist supports armel | 13:24 |
DktrKranz | tumbleweed, bdrung: no chance to do a launchpadlib upload until this evening, CEST time. If you can ping me again later, I won't forget | 13:55 |
DktrKranz | if needed now, feel freee to do a team upload | 13:55 |
bdrung | DktrKranz: today's evening is sufficient. | 13:57 |
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bdrung | DktrKranz: ping. when is "later"? | 16:26 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: I suppose I should have another look at those lp-project-upload merge requests | 16:27 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: yes. we should process all merge requests before the upload. | 16:29 |
DktrKranz | bdrung: I noticed I have to upload all the stack (wadllib and lazr*) | 16:29 |
DktrKranz | I think I can do them around 21 CEST | 16:30 |
bdrung | k | 16:30 |
bdrung | DktrKranz: CEST = utc + 2? | 16:31 |
DktrKranz | yes | 16:31 |
tumbleweed | DktrKranz: aah I didn't look, I just test-built launchpadlib. Are there any dependancies below you that still need rebuilds? | 16:31 |
DktrKranz | oauth? | 16:31 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: i filed i reminder for me: bug #764763 | 16:33 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 764763 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "Integrate ack-sync into sponsor-patch" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764763 | 16:33 |
tumbleweed | DktrKranz: ouath looks looks liket it's python-support so it's ok | 16:33 |
dholbach | can somebody please review the lp:ubuntu-packaging-guide merge proposals? | 16:43 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: what do you think about changing the versioning of u-d-t? | 17:17 |
bdrung | x.y.z where x is rarely changed, y introduces new features, z contains only bug fixes | 17:18 |
tumbleweed | fine with me, it's helpful to users too | 17:18 |
bdrung | going for 1.0 once all scripts that do not belong there are moved to their correct place | 17:18 |
tumbleweed | it does mean new features will take longer to get to users, though | 17:19 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: really? it's just the numbering | 17:19 |
tumbleweed | well assuming we aren't afraid to bump y whenever we want to. | 17:20 |
bdrung | i assume that | 17:20 |
tumbleweed | fine with me | 17:20 |
bdrung | having bug fix numbers prevent y to get over 100 quickly | 17:21 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: should we have a u-d-t session at uds? | 17:21 |
tumbleweed | I suppose we should push harder on devscripts (which means either preparing some perl scripts or a devscripts-python or a patch adding a python script to devscripts) | 17:21 |
tumbleweed | are we expecting any devscripts maintainers to be at UDS? | 17:22 |
bdrung | devscripts-python is a no go | 17:22 |
tumbleweed | going to debconf btw? I'll try to make it, but haven't booked anything yet (hoping for some sponsorship) | 17:23 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: dunno (re devscripts maintainers). | 17:23 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: i probably wont go to debconf | 17:24 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: will you go to UDS? | 17:24 |
tumbleweed | yes, I'll be at UDS, so let's talk about u-d-t there. | 17:25 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: let's try to get some devscripts maintainers there! | 17:26 |
tumbleweed | heh | 17:26 |
tumbleweed | I assume we can expect zack, he's the only devscripts uploader I can see registered for UDS. | 17:27 |
tumbleweed | err, I can't see any others, but I assume he'll be there | 17:28 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: IIRC zack has a schedule conflict and won't attend UDS | 17:29 |
tumbleweed | aah | 17:30 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: do you know where i find the mailman page for pkg-devscripts@teams.debian.net? | 17:31 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: should i setup a ppa for devscripts? | 18:15 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: seems there's an incorrect A record for teams.debian.net. Try http://aietes.turmzimmer.net/index.html | 18:22 |
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bdrung | DktrKranz: here's the python-launchpadlib ping :) | 21:09 |
DktrKranz | here's python-launchpadlib pong :) | 21:12 |
onizuka | hello | 21:32 |
onizuka | somebody here ? | 21:33 |
onizuka | a question I have, a question can I ask ? | 21:34 |
cyphermox_ | onizuka, just ask it :) | 21:35 |
onizuka | ok beginner question I think, when a new open source project starts how are you supposed to register the name | 21:36 |
onizuka | to avoid package name conflict for the first release ? | 21:36 |
maco | i'd just google it and see if its in use yet | 21:37 |
maco | you could do "apt-cache search <name>" to see if there are any packages in ubuntu as well | 21:37 |
onizuka | indeed I agree, you just hope nobody release a project with the same name until the end of your project | 21:38 |
maco | there's no foss-wide "registration" though... | 21:38 |
onizuka | what about commercial projects | 21:38 |
onizuka | imagine a company using ubuntu repository | 21:38 |
maco | in canonical's partner repo? | 21:38 |
onizuka | yes for example | 21:39 |
maco | commercial companies may wish to register a trademark in their country | 21:39 |
onizuka | imagine coca-coca has a library libcocacola | 21:39 |
onizuka | coca-cola sorry | 21:39 |
onizuka | want it in its own repository | 21:40 |
onizuka | and somebody release it as an open source project | 21:40 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: fyi: https://code.launchpad.net/~devscripts-dev/+recipe/daily | 21:40 |
maco | onizuka: there's nothing in foss to cover registration of names. that's trademark law. you do that at the country level | 21:41 |
maco | two bits of software can share a name if neither party trademarks it | 21:41 |
maco | its confusing for users, but there's no rule against it | 21:41 |
maco | if you're worried someone will steal your name, trademark it | 21:41 |
onizuka | maco > it's just for an open source project | 21:42 |
cyphermox_ | or release before they do ;) | 21:42 |
onizuka | don't want to buy a domain name | 21:42 |
maco | cyphermox_: or stake out a spot on launchpad or sourceforge or github or whatever first :P | 21:42 |
onizuka | maco > i think it is more parano than concrete fears | 21:43 |
maco | i agree | 21:43 |
onizuka | maco > anyway thank's for your answers it is why I came here | 21:43 |
onizuka | maco > have a good day | 21:43 |
cyphermox_ | onizuka, what maco said is true though -- if it's a foss project, register it in LP now, that way people have a chance to know you're working on something by that name | 21:43 |
onizuka | cyphermox_, LP ? | 21:44 |
cyphermox_ | onizuka, I mean in Launchpad | 21:44 |
onizuka | ok ! | 21:44 |
onizuka | cyphermox_, nice idea, sourceforge too ? | 21:44 |
onizuka | launchpad is enough ? | 21:45 |
cyphermox_ | onizuka, depends what you want to do, do you need features in sourceforge or launchpad? use what is fit for the task, no need to register a project somewhere if you're not going to use the site | 21:45 |
onizuka | cyphermox_, ok !! this situation is annoying !! I'll make an official project for projects' name reservation ! | 21:47 |
onizuka | cyphermox_, maco i'll keep you in touch if i hava the opportunity | 21:48 |
onizuka | cyphermox_, maco, have a nice day, many thanks for your help | 21:48 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: cool (although I see it already failed) | 21:49 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: some bzr issue | 21:49 |
tumbleweed | yeah | 21:49 |
tumbleweed | DktrKranz looks like he's almost done | 21:49 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: are you subscribed to pkg-devscripts? | 21:50 |
tumbleweed | no | 21:51 |
* tumbleweed supposes he should | 21:51 | |
DktrKranz | bdrung, tumbleweed: upload in progress | 21:53 |
bdrung | thanks | 21:54 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: lp:devscripts is outdated! | 21:57 |
tumbleweed | aah | 21:57 |
tumbleweed | yeah it moved to git | 21:57 |
matttbe | Hello, | 22:05 |
matttbe | I'm looking for a sponsor to upload Cairo-Dock packages on Natty? Is someone can help us? | 22:05 |
matttbe | this is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo-dock/+bug/723994 | 22:05 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 723994 in cairo-dock (Ubuntu Natty) "FFe: Please update Cairo-Dock to 2.3.0~0rc1 version" [Wishlist,New] | 22:05 |
matttbe | I also have another question: if there is a newer version of these packages (2.3.0 stable) which fix a few bugs, should I have to open a new bug report or can I update bzr branches and join a new debdiff? | 22:08 |
bdrung | matttbe: if it only contains bug fixes and no new features, you don't need a ffe for it | 22:09 |
matttbe | bdrung: and should I have to wait for the upload of the 2.3.0~0rc1 version or not? | 22:10 |
bdrung | matttbe: dunno. if the old version is still available, i would say no. | 22:11 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: once this is done (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/153360), the daily build should work | 22:19 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: i am going to bed now. feel free to do the u-d-t upload | 22:33 |
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