| scott-ian | The launchpad page needs to be updated. It has a link to the wiki as the homepage, however it should point to ubuntu-california.org. | 00:44 |
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| pleia2 | good idea | 00:58 |
| pleia2 | there, both are linked | 01:00 |
| pleia2 | thanks scott-ian | 01:00 |
| jtatum | happy sunday | 02:27 |
| Algo | Lazy Sunday | 02:49 |
| akk | Not me, madly installing natty and copying stuff from my possibly dying disk to a new one. | 03:00 |
| akk | It's running well enough for xchat, I guess that's the important thing. :) | 03:00 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, you rock! Just saw the post from the ISA lab :) | 05:59 |
| projectdp | magnificent day isn't it | 17:15 |
| * pleia2 hasn't looked outside yet | 17:15 | |
| akk | I don't suppose there's any point in reporting that aumix is broken on natty? | 17:27 |
| akk | I heard rumors that OSS support had been removed, but the (now nonworking) programs apparently are still there. | 17:28 |
| nhaines | pleia2: yesterday was a beautiful day. | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | it's been gloomy here | 18:19 |
| nhaines | Unfortunately, I was linked to tvtropes.org in the morning and missed it all. | 18:19 |
| nhaines | pleia2: my blog stopped showing up on Planet Ubuntu just after the LiveJournal DDOS problem. Do you know whom I can contact to see if something needs a nudge? I've already checked and verified the Planet Ubuntu config. | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | hm, good question | 18:32 |
| pleia2 | might ask in #canonical-sysadmin | 18:33 |
| nhaines | pleia2: Ooh, another IRC channel. Thanks. :) | 19:07 |
| sn9 | nhaines, pleia2: ? | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | sn9: hm? | 19:10 |
| nhaines | sn9: yes? | 19:13 |
| sn9 | [Mon 2011-04-18 11:08:33 AM PDT] <nhaines> pleia2: Ooh, another IRC channel. Thanks. :) | 19:13 |
| nhaines | 10:33 < pleia2> might ask in #canonical-sysadmin | 19:14 |
| sn9 | ahhh | 19:14 |
| nhaines | I'm at work, so my ping time is long. | 19:15 |
| projectdp | hello | 19:38 |
| seidos | hello | 19:39 |
| projectdp | what kinda system are you running seidos? | 19:42 |
| seidos | a notebook | 19:42 |
| seidos | what about you projectdp ? | 19:42 |
| projectdp | same | 19:42 |
| seidos | what hardware? | 19:42 |
| seidos | are you running ubuntu projectdp ? | 19:43 |
| projectdp | T61 thinkpad | 19:43 |
| projectdp | not yet | 19:43 |
| seidos | ah, what inspired you to get the thinkpad? | 19:43 |
| projectdp | the keyboard, design, and physical hardware | 19:44 |
| projectdp | what've you got? | 19:44 |
| seidos | a toshiba | 19:45 |
| projectdp | is it pretty solid? | 19:45 |
| seidos | i used to do help desk at a shop that used them | 19:45 |
| seidos | it runs windows well | 19:46 |
| seidos | linux was a challenge | 19:46 |
| seidos | i think there are like 2 developers that use it though, thankfully | 19:46 |
| projectdp | yea i got the thinkpad for open source software support too | 19:46 |
| projectdp | most of the devices work fairly well | 19:46 |
| projectdp | with generic drivers | 19:46 |
| seidos | when i got the toshiba i thought "runs windows well == runs linux well" | 19:46 |
| projectdp | ah | 19:47 |
| projectdp | not the case | 19:47 |
| projectdp | drivers | 19:47 |
| seidos | not sure where i got that ridiculous assumption planted in my skull | 19:47 |
| seidos | ah indeed | 19:47 |
| seidos | i used to know someone with a thinkpad | 19:47 |
| seidos | they wouldn't install ubuntu either | 19:47 |
| crashsystems | ubuntu runs perfectly on my thinkpad | 19:50 |
| seidos | "perfectly"? | 19:50 |
| seidos | their concern was with power management performance, granted, they weren't interested in trying to solve that problem | 19:51 |
| seidos | or power efficiency i should say | 19:51 |
| seidos | or they were interested, but didn't have the time | 19:51 |
| seidos | who knows, can't really say i know the guy | 19:51 |
| projectdp | what do you do on your system crashsystems? | 19:52 |
| projectdp | or you seidos? | 19:57 |
| projectdp | i think i just want a separate laptop for ubuntu | 19:58 |
| seidos | i have two system, really. a server in the closet | 19:59 |
| seidos | hopefully another one on the way | 19:59 |
| seidos | server has website, chatbot | 19:59 |
| seidos | i need to work on transmission-cli | 20:00 |
| seidos | what about you projectdp ? | 20:00 |
| projectdp | for the most part this laptop just does browsing | 20:00 |
| projectdp | is chromium fairly well supported in ubuntu? | 20:00 |
| projectdp | or chrome? | 20:00 |
| seidos | i find that hard to believe projectdp | 20:01 |
| seidos | you mean, does chrome or chromium work in ubuntu? | 20:01 |
| projectdp | yes | 20:02 |
| seidos | it appears to run quite well for me | 20:02 |
| seidos | but, who knows what it is doing | 20:02 |
| seidos | i have no idea what the code does | 20:02 |
| projectdp | is it pretty quick? | 20:02 |
| seidos | yeah, it's the fastest browser i've ever used | 20:03 |
| projectdp | just wondering if it's still quick in ubuntu :) | 20:03 |
| seidos | sure you are | 20:04 |
| projectdp | no really, i want to be certain on whether i'll switch | 20:05 |
| seidos | how much ram do you have? | 20:05 |
| projectdp | 2g | 20:05 |
| seidos | do you have a 2GB usb stick? | 20:06 |
| projectdp | yes | 20:07 |
| seidos | why not just install ubuntu on the stick, then try it on your system? you should have enough space on your 2GB stick to install chromium from packages via a live usb | 20:08 |
| seidos | something to try out | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | projectdp: chromium is in the official repos for ubuntu these days, but you still need to download from google to get chrome (or the latest chromium) | 20:09 |
| * pleia2 uses chrome with google repos | 20:09 | |
| projectdp | i see | 20:10 |
| projectdp | thanks | 20:10 |
| === seidos is now known as ChickenGhost | ||
| projectdp | ChickenGhost: alright | 20:12 |
| akk | Something running off a USB stick may not be a fair test of speed, though | 20:13 |
| akk | and certainly it isn't if the whole OS is running off a USB stick | 20:13 |
| nhaines | akk: or is it! | 20:13 |
| nhaines | akk: actually, with 2GB RAM, it's probably not too bad, once things are cached and running. | 20:14 |
| akk | Anything that's cached should be okay. But any libs that have to be read off "disk" will be slow. | 20:14 |
| akk | So some pages may be slow to load if they trigger a new lib (flash, ssl) or have to load a new font or something. | 20:15 |
| === ChickenGhost is now known as seidos | ||
| seidos | i'll have to try it | 20:16 |
| akk | And if it's anything like firefox, it's writing to a disk cache too. | 20:16 |
| akk | Though hopefully it isn't spending much time waiting on those writes. | 20:16 |
| akk | But the on-disk one will be faster loading anything that comes from disk cache. | 20:17 |
| projectdp | doesn't it load the os into ramdisk? | 20:19 |
| akk | It loads what it uses, but probably not every file in the OS just in case it might use it. | 20:21 |
| projectdp | i see | 20:22 |
| projectdp | has anyone done work with voice software on ubuntu? | 20:22 |
| projectdp | any sip stuff? | 20:22 |
| projectdp | voip? | 20:23 |
| projectdp | i just looked it up, ekiga is probably a common ubuntu use case..? | 20:23 |
| seidos | projectdp: how many tabs do you typically have open when you use chrome/chromium? | 20:24 |
| projectdp | 10-20 | 20:25 |
| seidos | opening new tabs is a little slower off a live usb | 20:25 |
| projectdp | Total Time Spent: 1720 hr 27 min | 20:25 |
| projectdp | Total Tabs Opened: 16433 | 20:25 |
| seidos | projectdp: top 10? | 20:25 |
| nhaines | akk: firefox disk caches are all in a tmpfs in memory. | 20:25 |
| seidos | er, top 5 would be better | 20:25 |
| projectdp | are you asking what my top 5 sites are? | 20:26 |
| seidos | yeah, or top 5 tabs | 20:26 |
| nhaines | projectdp: Please note that your answer will be preserved forever by chatlogs and Google. :) | 20:27 |
| akk | nhaines: excellent, that's good to hear | 20:27 |
| projectdp | gmail, gcal, ttf, vark.com, quora.com, tweetdeck google-app | 20:27 |
| seidos | never heard of ttf | 20:27 |
| projectdp | https://www.thinktankforums.com/ | 20:27 |
| projectdp | awesome small community | 20:27 |
| projectdp | custom built forum | 20:28 |
| projectdp | with full revisions for data preservation | 20:28 |
| seidos | ah, i see | 20:29 |
| seidos | that's what ttf is | 20:29 |
| seidos | 11 tabs open, i can barely notice a difference | 20:29 |
| seidos | so yeah projectdp, it's close but not perfect | 20:30 |
| seidos | from a liveusb | 20:30 |
| seidos | i mean, testing it yourself might be more valuable to you than words | 20:30 |
| projectdp | yea no worries i'll try | 20:31 |
| seidos | what me worry? | 20:31 |
| projectdp | crashsystems1: what happened? | 20:35 |
| crashsystems | ? | 20:36 |
| crashsystems | oh, "what do you do on your computer" | 20:36 |
| crashsystems | a little bit of everything | 20:37 |
| projectdp | that too, most recently i meant | 20:37 |
| projectdp | whats up with the second you? | 20:37 |
| projectdp | "crashsystems1", "crashsystems" | 20:37 |
| crashsystems | well, the version without the number at the end is irccloud (what I use on desktops/laptops), and the one with the 1 is my phone | 20:38 |
| projectdp | ah | 20:38 |
| projectdp | what client do you use on your phone? | 20:38 |
| crashsystems | AndChat | 20:38 |
| projectdp | OS? | 20:38 |
| crashsystems | android | 20:38 |
| projectdp | sweet | 20:39 |
| projectdp | are there any solid ssh clients for android? | 20:40 |
| projectdp | i've only read of connectbot | 20:40 |
| crashsystems | ConnectBot | 20:40 |
| nhaines | projectdp: what's wrong with ConnectBot? | 20:46 |
| projectdp | nothing, there just doesn't seem much selection. i'm just curious, i'm in the market for a new phone | 20:47 |
| projectdp | considering the smart phone jump soon | 20:47 |
| nhaines | i think it was just so awesome out of the gate nothing else got big. :) | 20:51 |
| projectdp | sweet | 20:54 |
| projectdp | has anyone done android app development? | 21:01 |
| seidos | projectdp: have you? | 21:02 |
| seidos | i haven't | 21:03 |
| akk | I have, a little | 21:03 |
| projectdp | not really, i got my development environment up is about all | 21:03 |
| projectdp | alright here's an irc question, when using /list on freenode, what's the best way to search the damn thing | 21:03 |
| seidos | i would think having the hardware would kind of be necessary | 21:03 |
| seidos | projectdp: have you heard of those beagle boards? they may have a different name | 21:04 |
| projectdp | is that the dev board? | 21:04 |
| projectdp | i'm sure those things are a lot friggen faster than emulation right? | 21:04 |
| projectdp | the emulation takes for ever on my machine | 21:05 |
| seidos | i dunno, never used one. i've seen them, read about them | 21:05 |
| seidos | ah, emulating android | 21:05 |
| seidos | wow, things are so snappy off this liveusb i'm not even inclined to reboot | 21:05 |
| akk | emulation misses a lot of hardware that real android devices have. | 21:06 |
| seidos | i would think that's true. developing anything good for android without having one is probably impossible | 21:08 |
| akk | I suspect to develop a real, full fledged app you'd probably need several devices, with different hardware, running different android versions. | 21:09 |
| seidos | do you have an android akk? | 21:10 |
| seidos | i should say android(TM) | 21:10 |
| seidos | my notebook's name is c3po :) | 21:10 |
| akk | I have a small android tablet, not a phone. | 21:11 |
| seidos | if i get a computer after this one, it'll be a tablet if they have one i can draw on | 21:12 |
| seidos | akk: do you like yours? | 21:12 |
| seidos | $on=with | 21:13 |
| akk | I love it, though it has some issues/bugs, and I wish it ran something newer than Android 1.6. | 21:13 |
| seidos | ah | 21:14 |
| projectdp | akk, how do you get the apps on the other devices without the app going live through the market? | 21:15 |
| akk | projectdp: I can go through the market (via a market app hack and wifi) for apps only available that way, but I prefer to copy the .apk onto the device via USB, then install it locally. | 21:15 |
| akk | The market's a PITA to use, so the USB method is way easier. I wish more apps would make a .apk available. | 21:16 |
| akk | Or source -- it's amazing how many android apps claim to be GPL but have neither source nor even an .apk available. | 21:17 |
| projectdp | oh nice | 21:17 |
| seidos | ooo, idea, i have a reason to reboot now | 21:20 |
| jdeslip | ls | 21:46 |
| seidos | l works apparently | 21:46 |
| seidos | doesn't quite feel right though | 21:47 |
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