/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/18/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

InHisNameI finally fixed my old linux box after 14 months of freezing at "Checking battery status".05:02
InHisNameNow am missing my nvidia drivers.   I've forgotten how to put the extras into ubuntu ?05:03
JonathanDMorning PA.11:10
InHisNameMorning already, JonathanD11:12
JonathanDYup.11:12
JonathanDSeems like it comes every day!11:12
InHisNameamazine!11:13
InHisNamecan't even spell this early11:13
jedijfInHisName: check 'hardware drivers'12:36
JonathanDInHisName: ask your doctor about amazine.12:37
jedijfInHisName: System--Admin--Hardware Drivers12:37
JonathanDSide effects include muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death.12:38
InHisNameThanks, jedijf, now on to delving into side effects of 'hardware drivers' - muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death.13:39
InHisNameOops mixing threads13:39
InHisNameno hdw drivers found.13:46
InHisNameattempting to synaptic etc. to put them in.13:46
InHisNameI wonder if my sound is gone too.13:47
InHisNamejedijf: "no proprietary devices in use on this system".13:55
InHisNameI used synaptic to install nividia173  - seemed to be good.13:55
InHisNameSTILL "no proprietary ..."13:56
InHisNameRe-booted13:56
InHisNameSTILL "no proprietary ..."13:56
InHisNameI'm still missing a step somewhere.13:57
jedijfInHisName: if there were no propreitary drivers.....then there are NO PROPREITARY drivers required...the open source ones should work14:04
jedijfrequired or available14:05
jedijfand if you are in synaptic......they are working......14:06
jedijfif you /need/ them look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia14:10
PennBotTitle: BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)14:10
InHisNameNo, I guess they got an open source one now.14:12
InHisName'cept my mouse arrow disappeared.  Mouse still working just no arrow to see.14:13
knightzeroMorning lamalex14:25
InHisNamemorning knightzero and lamalex and jedijf and JonathanD and  who ever else is awake14:29
knightzeroA good morning to you as well, InHisName14:29
InHisNameOK, so in mouse setup there is option:   'show location of mouse pointer whn ctrl key pressed'14:31
InHisNameBut it is SILL awkward to move mouse repeatedly pressing control to see if mouse is close enough to do what I want.14:32
jedijfis this in a virtual situation?14:34
InHisNameno14:34
jedijfuncheck that control option....remove that nvidia stuff you installed willy nilly....*log* out..log back in14:35
InHisNameok14:35
InHisNamewierd!  I just switched KVM to old ubuntu with 10.04 now fixed.  Mouse came to life, now has arrow.14:37
InHisNameI've switched back and forth several times and this is first that had visible mouse arrow.!14:38
InHisNameGoing into synaptic and removing superfluous software drivers.14:39
InHisNamewhile selecting for removal, screen went black and said:  "unsupported screen, going to default 640x400"   strange14:48
InHisNamecontinuing with removal.....14:48
jedijfhmmm.....check display and options....maybe not as superfluous as previously thought14:48
jedijfeither way... the cursor will now be big enough to see14:49
InHisNameeven wierder,   I re-installed nvidia73.   nothing.    Rebooted, now can go hi res.15:12
JonathanDI need to fix graphics on crissis old laptop.15:12
InHisNameNow NO mouse or ctrl locator function15:12
JonathanDIt's an older ATI, I don't think it's very well supported.15:13
InHisNamegot mouse just no arrow or locator15:13
InHisNametried going into "appearance"   screen went black, green led still lit though.15:15
InHisNameProbably loosing all hi-res and dropping to default 640x48015:16
InHisNamethings still are not stable yet15:24
ChinnoDogInHisName: what was wrong with it?15:24
ChinnoDogoops15:24
ChinnoDogMy window was scrolled way up15:24
ChinnoDogn/m15:24
InHisNametried to go hi res and bungled a buncha stuff15:24
InHisNameon a system I fixed after being frozen at "checking battery status" for 14 months.15:25
andrewYou didn't even try turning off and back on during those 14 months?15:30
InHisNameabout 100 - 200 times15:31
InHisNamethis site got me to fix it:   http://superuser.com/questions/163621/stuck-on-checking-battery-state-at-startup-in-ubuntu-have-splash-screen-no-start15:34
PennBotTitle: Stuck on Checking battery state at startup in Ubuntu, have splash screen no startup - Super User (at superuser.com)15:34
InHisNamenow am up and running with old system.   'freshly' upgraded to 10.0415:35
InHisNametrying to get mouse arrrow and hi res to play nicely together15:35
InHisNamedropped res to 1280 and try rebooting to see what that does.15:37
InHisNameok the mouse finder is back working,  But no mouse arrow yet.15:40
InHisNameWhere do I change the shape of the mouse arrow ?15:41
InHisNamehow to spell Mr. Bacon's handle name ?15:43
InHisNameOk, I got my mouse arrow back.     I had to type my password and there it was.15:48
InHisNameI change screen size and need to wait for password prompt to test this hypothesis.15:48
InHisNameSound works but avi only plays sounds no picutures.17:05
InHisNameYes, waiting for password prompt 'restores' the mouse arrow.17:06
InHisName@monolog17:38
PennBotI don't have a clue.17:38
InHisName@help17:39
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InHisNamehelp17:39
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andrew@monologue17:40
PennBotandrew: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.17:40
andrewspelling helps17:40
InHisName@monologue17:40
PennBotInHisName: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.17:40
InHisNameyou interrupted my 2 hour run....17:40
andrewaww17:41
andrewyou could have had it if you spelled correctly17:41
InHisNameandrew: any thoughts on when I change screen size,  the mouse arrow disappears until I get a password prompt.17:41
InHisNamefor Ubuntu 10.0417:42
InHisNameDo you know how to spell Mr. bacon's handle name ?17:42
jedijfInHisName: do you have any 'desktop effects' enabled?17:47
jedijfif so, try turning them off17:48
InHisNamenot yet, set at default bare level.18:12
teddy-dbearSamuraiAlba18:15
InHisNameI want more stability before that kind of playing around.18:16
InHisNameThanks teddy-dbear18:17
teddy-dbearsomebody needs to learn how to check logs18:17
InHisName@later tell SamuraiAlba Too bad I couldn't send to your fiance instead --- http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_life/2011-04-16/bacon-scented-perfume-sizzles.html18:29
PennBotInHisName: The operation succeeded.18:29
InHisNameanyone know of job/career fairs this mon-tues-wed ?18:43
knightzeroNo knowledge on fairs so to speak, but what field are you looking at, InHisName?18:54
knightzeroIf you are looking for IT field work, and don't mind the combination of contract work and helpdesk, my agency might have an opening that fits your requirements.18:57
knightzeroI know that there's some hiring going on for my location at some point in the near future.18:58
InHisNameknightzero: where in PA might that be. I'm near Doylestown.   Approx 23mi NORTH of CC.19:03
knightzeroThe office I work for is in Oaks, PA.  However, I know that the company I contract through has customers all over the tri-state area.19:12
knightzeroFor the location that I work in, you'd be looking at about 25 miles - the commute may or may not be worth it, depending on how much you like driving.19:17
jrmyanyone on?19:25
ChinnoDogWe are all "on"...19:25
jrmyright..19:26
jrmybeen awhile..19:26
ChinnoDogIt has.19:26
jrmyanyways my os seems to be messed up and i wonder if theres a way to reinstall it without a cd19:26
InHisNameOK, now I've updated grub 2  a few times and have added more pixels and a background.19:26
jrmyliek revert it to a fresh state19:26
InHisNameStill need to add 2nd primary partition on sda1 to discover win2008, or do I need to hand code it ?19:27
ChinnoDogjrmy: What exactly is wrong with it?19:27
jrmyChinnoDog: well it failed updating19:28
jrmythink it has a few other problems19:28
ChinnoDogThat doesn't sound like a very good reason to reinstall. Why don't you just fix it?19:28
InHisNameI had that, and finally fixed mine last night.19:28
jrmythought i'd just make it easier19:29
InHisNameIt was hanging just after 'checking battery status'  ??? it was a desktop.19:29
ChinnoDogReinstalling isn't easier. Just fix it.19:29
ChinnoDogjrmy: first fix your updates. What is happening?19:30
jrmynot sure..19:30
InHisNamedoes it finish booting to something usable ?19:30
jrmyidk.. i'll try upadting again..19:31
jrmyChinnoDog: it says that some of the packages cant be recieved from the servers19:33
jrmyi dont know what packages so i dont know if i want to ignore them.. maybe theyre old and the servers are not existent19:34
jrmyits been forever since i used this thing19:34
ChinnoDogDo a 'sudo apt-get update' from the command line19:36
ChinnoDogIt should tell you which sources are broken19:36
jrmywell first im installing the updates it did get19:36
jrmyand i hit yes on ignore so idk if it will show them19:36
jrmyok im restarting19:37
jrmyshould i have updates in the update manager when i do the upadte in terminal?19:54
jrmyand in terminal there isnt any new19:54
jrmyidk im confused19:54
jrmyis it possible i have a virus?19:55
InHisNameno updates, maybe you are all updated now19:55
jrmybut im updating from the update manager right now19:56
jrmyhowever with sudo apt-get update there are none19:56
ChinnoDogjrmy: you don't understand the command you are running19:56
jrmygotcha19:56
ChinnoDog'sudo apt-get update' downloads the list of packages from all of your sources19:56
jrmyive been away too long19:57
ChinnoDog'sudo apt-get upgrade' is what installs new packages19:57
jrmyoh19:57
ChinnoDogSo if 'sudo apt-get update' returns without errors, then run the upgrade19:57
jrmywell i assume thats what im doing with the ubuntu update manager19:57
ChinnoDogSort of, but update manager won't dump out all the errors fror you19:58
jrmywell so far i havent gotten anymore arrors19:58
jrmyhowever when i restarted the screen went black.. left it for liek that for awhile then hit trh power switch.. (was still booting and updating.. had an error message or 2 idk) powered it back on and yeah no errors so far19:59
jrmybrb20:00
ChinnoDogThat is probably a power management glitch20:01
jrmyback20:02
jrmythe computer is old20:03
jrmyguess i'll run sudo apt-get upgrade after it installs the stuff20:03
InHisNameMy server install from sat, is doing the 'upgrade' now.   I have LOTS and LOTS of things upgrading.20:08
jrmysheesh20:10
InHisNameOh it just finished.20:10
jrmydo you have slow internet?20:11
jrmyChinnoDog: i think my sound drivers are gone20:13
ChinnoDog"gone"?20:13
jrmyno.. wait just looks liek the sound was muted.. lol20:13
jrmyok i'll restart again since it says i have to and do the upgrade via terminal20:14
InHisNameon my repaired linux, for 1st time the sound did NOT go away after a version upgrade.20:14
InHisNameany grubbers around ?20:17
jrmyguess its fine now20:20
jrmynothing needs to be updated or upgraded apparently20:21
InHisName485 passed ?20:26
InHisNamescratch that20:26
jedijf< jedijf> grub2?20:27
jedijf15:26 < Pacs_Bot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:27
PennBotTitle: Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)20:27
ChinnoDogjrmy: anything else broken?20:29
jrmyChinnoDog: not that i know of20:31
jrmyhow do i change the audio device?20:39
jrmycant seem to find it20:43
jrmyas it seems i have power to my onboard audio but nothing comes out20:43
jrmymaybe this is missing20:44
jrmywell im following a thing on this site to update the alsa driver i guess20:55
jrmydunno if it'll fix it20:55
jedijflamalex: i want some20:58
jedijflike, immediately20:58
jedijfeven properly named20:58
lamalexjedijf,  you want some what?20:58
jedijfeggplant20:58
lamalexha oh20:58
lamalexeggplant parmejawn sandwich would be bitchin20:58
lamalexand so messy20:59
jrmywhat does eggplant taste like?20:59
jedijfabout a month ago i was at a diner (surprise) and had a taste for eggplant....well eggplant was $60 per case so they didn't have any.....lame20:59
jedijfjrmy: chicken, of course21:00
jrmylol21:00
lamalexi'm thinking about cooking up some eggplant tonight21:01
InHisNameyum!21:12
jrmyso hows things in PA?21:27
InHisNameok, but jobs still hard to get hold of.21:31
InHisNameThe "Windows Recovery (loader)" option in grub 2, apparently is NOT a recovery partition but the boot for Win2008.21:40
InHisNameHow come grub comes up with that name ?     I gave in and tried it when hd0,2 wouldn't boot or be found.   hd0.1 booted just fine as before.       When I rebooted again, and pressed nothing, default was still linux server.21:43
InHisNameI've booted into linux server and the two nics are reversed from what I origionally setup.   I want to reverse the info between the two nics.  Where to find it at ?   a xyz.conf file ?23:22
jedijfswitch the cables23:23
InHisNameI did.  now to switch the data to follow the moved cables.23:24
InHisNamethe settings for eth1 is in eth0 and vice versa23:24
jedijfswitch cables /one/ more time23:24
InHisNameNO already did that to set windows back correct.   I want to learn more of the ubuntu side of adjusting things this time.23:25
InHisNamemostly need to find where default gateway is set for eth0 and remove it to eth123:28
InHisNamemaybe dns settings too.23:28
InHisNamekids home, itermittent till 9pm23:29
jedijfcat 70-persistent-net.rules23:29
jedijfin /etc/udev/rules.d ^^^ InHisName23:30
jedijfput mac address in right spot..../etc/init.d/networking restart23:30

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