[05:02] <InHisName> I finally fixed my old linux box after 14 months of freezing at "Checking battery status".
[05:03] <InHisName> Now am missing my nvidia drivers.   I've forgotten how to put the extras into ubuntu ?
[11:10] <JonathanD> Morning PA.
[11:12] <InHisName> Morning already, JonathanD
[11:12] <JonathanD> Yup.
[11:12] <JonathanD> Seems like it comes every day!
[11:13] <InHisName> amazine!
[11:13] <InHisName> can't even spell this early
[12:36] <jedijf> InHisName: check 'hardware drivers'
[12:37] <JonathanD> InHisName: ask your doctor about amazine.
[12:37] <jedijf> InHisName: System--Admin--Hardware Drivers
[12:38] <JonathanD> Side effects include muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death.
[13:39] <InHisName> Thanks, jedijf, now on to delving into side effects of 'hardware drivers' - muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death.
[13:39] <InHisName> Oops mixing threads
[13:46] <InHisName> no hdw drivers found.
[13:46] <InHisName> attempting to synaptic etc. to put them in.
[13:47] <InHisName> I wonder if my sound is gone too.
[13:55] <InHisName> jedijf: "no proprietary devices in use on this system".
[13:55] <InHisName> I used synaptic to install nividia173  - seemed to be good.
[13:56] <InHisName> STILL "no proprietary ..."
[13:56] <InHisName> Re-booted
[13:56] <InHisName> STILL "no proprietary ..."
[13:57] <InHisName> I'm still missing a step somewhere.
[14:04] <jedijf> InHisName: if there were no propreitary drivers.....then there are NO PROPREITARY drivers required...the open source ones should work
[14:05] <jedijf> required or available
[14:06] <jedijf> and if you are in synaptic......they are working......
[14:10] <jedijf> if you /need/ them look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[14:10] <PennBot> Title: BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[14:12] <InHisName> No, I guess they got an open source one now.
[14:13] <InHisName> 'cept my mouse arrow disappeared.  Mouse still working just no arrow to see.
[14:25] <knightzero> Morning lamalex
[14:29] <InHisName> morning knightzero and lamalex and jedijf and JonathanD and  who ever else is awake
[14:29] <knightzero> A good morning to you as well, InHisName
[14:31] <InHisName> OK, so in mouse setup there is option:   'show location of mouse pointer whn ctrl key pressed'
[14:32] <InHisName> But it is SILL awkward to move mouse repeatedly pressing control to see if mouse is close enough to do what I want.
[14:34] <jedijf> is this in a virtual situation?
[14:34] <InHisName> no
[14:35] <jedijf> uncheck that control option....remove that nvidia stuff you installed willy nilly....*log* out..log back in
[14:35] <InHisName> ok
[14:37] <InHisName> wierd!  I just switched KVM to old ubuntu with 10.04 now fixed.  Mouse came to life, now has arrow.
[14:38] <InHisName> I've switched back and forth several times and this is first that had visible mouse arrow.!
[14:39] <InHisName> Going into synaptic and removing superfluous software drivers.
[14:48] <InHisName> while selecting for removal, screen went black and said:  "unsupported screen, going to default 640x400"   strange
[14:48] <InHisName> continuing with removal.....
[14:48] <jedijf> hmmm.....check display and options....maybe not as superfluous as previously thought
[14:49] <jedijf> either way... the cursor will now be big enough to see
[15:12] <InHisName> even wierder,   I re-installed nvidia73.   nothing.    Rebooted, now can go hi res.
[15:12] <JonathanD> I need to fix graphics on crissis old laptop.
[15:12] <InHisName> Now NO mouse or ctrl locator function
[15:13] <JonathanD> It's an older ATI, I don't think it's very well supported.
[15:13] <InHisName> got mouse just no arrow or locator
[15:15] <InHisName> tried going into "appearance"   screen went black, green led still lit though.
[15:16] <InHisName> Probably loosing all hi-res and dropping to default 640x480
[15:24] <InHisName> things still are not stable yet
[15:24] <ChinnoDog> InHisName: what was wrong with it?
[15:24] <ChinnoDog> oops
[15:24] <ChinnoDog> My window was scrolled way up
[15:24] <ChinnoDog> n/m
[15:24] <InHisName> tried to go hi res and bungled a buncha stuff
[15:25] <InHisName> on a system I fixed after being frozen at "checking battery status" for 14 months.
[15:30] <andrew> You didn't even try turning off and back on during those 14 months?
[15:31] <InHisName> about 100 - 200 times
[15:34] <InHisName> this site got me to fix it:   http://superuser.com/questions/163621/stuck-on-checking-battery-state-at-startup-in-ubuntu-have-splash-screen-no-start
[15:34] <PennBot> Title: Stuck on Checking battery state at startup in Ubuntu, have splash screen no startup - Super User (at superuser.com)
[15:35] <InHisName> now am up and running with old system.   'freshly' upgraded to 10.04
[15:35] <InHisName> trying to get mouse arrrow and hi res to play nicely together
[15:37] <InHisName> dropped res to 1280 and try rebooting to see what that does.
[15:40] <InHisName> ok the mouse finder is back working,  But no mouse arrow yet.
[15:41] <InHisName> Where do I change the shape of the mouse arrow ?
[15:43] <InHisName> how to spell Mr. Bacon's handle name ?
[15:48] <InHisName> Ok, I got my mouse arrow back.     I had to type my password and there it was.
[15:48] <InHisName> I change screen size and need to wait for password prompt to test this hypothesis.
[17:05] <InHisName> Sound works but avi only plays sounds no picutures.
[17:06] <InHisName> Yes, waiting for password prompt 'restores' the mouse arrow.
[17:38] <InHisName> @monolog
[17:38] <PennBot> I don't have a clue.
[17:39] <InHisName> @help
[17:39] <PennBot> InHisName: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[17:39] <InHisName> help
[17:39] <InHisName> @list
[17:39] <PennBot> InHisName: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Filter, Games, Infobot, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Nickometer, Owner, Seen, Status, String, URL, Unix, Utilities, Weather, and Web
[17:40] <andrew> @monologue
[17:40] <PennBot> andrew: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
[17:40] <andrew> spelling helps
[17:40] <InHisName> @monologue
[17:40] <PennBot> InHisName: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
[17:40] <InHisName> you interrupted my 2 hour run....
[17:41] <andrew> aww
[17:41] <andrew> you could have had it if you spelled correctly
[17:41] <InHisName> andrew: any thoughts on when I change screen size,  the mouse arrow disappears until I get a password prompt.
[17:42] <InHisName> for Ubuntu 10.04
[17:42] <InHisName> Do you know how to spell Mr. bacon's handle name ?
[17:47] <jedijf> InHisName: do you have any 'desktop effects' enabled?
[17:48] <jedijf> if so, try turning them off
[18:12] <InHisName> not yet, set at default bare level.
[18:15] <teddy-dbear> SamuraiAlba
[18:16] <InHisName> I want more stability before that kind of playing around.
[18:17] <InHisName> Thanks teddy-dbear
[18:17] <teddy-dbear> somebody needs to learn how to check logs
[18:29] <InHisName> @later tell SamuraiAlba Too bad I couldn't send to your fiance instead --- http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_life/2011-04-16/bacon-scented-perfume-sizzles.html
[18:29] <PennBot> InHisName: The operation succeeded.
[18:43] <InHisName> anyone know of job/career fairs this mon-tues-wed ?
[18:54] <knightzero> No knowledge on fairs so to speak, but what field are you looking at, InHisName?
[18:57] <knightzero> If you are looking for IT field work, and don't mind the combination of contract work and helpdesk, my agency might have an opening that fits your requirements.
[18:58] <knightzero> I know that there's some hiring going on for my location at some point in the near future.
[19:03] <InHisName> knightzero: where in PA might that be. I'm near Doylestown.   Approx 23mi NORTH of CC.
[19:12] <knightzero> The office I work for is in Oaks, PA.  However, I know that the company I contract through has customers all over the tri-state area.
[19:17] <knightzero> For the location that I work in, you'd be looking at about 25 miles - the commute may or may not be worth it, depending on how much you like driving.
[19:25] <jrmy> anyone on?
[19:25] <ChinnoDog> We are all "on"...
[19:26] <jrmy> right..
[19:26] <jrmy> been awhile..
[19:26] <ChinnoDog> It has.
[19:26] <jrmy> anyways my os seems to be messed up and i wonder if theres a way to reinstall it without a cd
[19:26] <InHisName> OK, now I've updated grub 2  a few times and have added more pixels and a background.
[19:26] <jrmy> liek revert it to a fresh state
[19:27] <InHisName> Still need to add 2nd primary partition on sda1 to discover win2008, or do I need to hand code it ?
[19:27] <ChinnoDog> jrmy: What exactly is wrong with it?
[19:28] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: well it failed updating
[19:28] <jrmy> think it has a few other problems
[19:28] <ChinnoDog> That doesn't sound like a very good reason to reinstall. Why don't you just fix it?
[19:28] <InHisName> I had that, and finally fixed mine last night.
[19:29] <jrmy> thought i'd just make it easier
[19:29] <InHisName> It was hanging just after 'checking battery status'  ??? it was a desktop.
[19:29] <ChinnoDog> Reinstalling isn't easier. Just fix it.
[19:30] <ChinnoDog> jrmy: first fix your updates. What is happening?
[19:30] <jrmy> not sure..
[19:30] <InHisName> does it finish booting to something usable ?
[19:31] <jrmy> idk.. i'll try upadting again..
[19:33] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: it says that some of the packages cant be recieved from the servers
[19:34] <jrmy> i dont know what packages so i dont know if i want to ignore them.. maybe theyre old and the servers are not existent
[19:34] <jrmy> its been forever since i used this thing
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> Do a 'sudo apt-get update' from the command line
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> It should tell you which sources are broken
[19:36] <jrmy> well first im installing the updates it did get
[19:36] <jrmy> and i hit yes on ignore so idk if it will show them
[19:37] <jrmy> ok im restarting
[19:54] <jrmy> should i have updates in the update manager when i do the upadte in terminal?
[19:54] <jrmy> and in terminal there isnt any new
[19:54] <jrmy> idk im confused
[19:55] <jrmy> is it possible i have a virus?
[19:55] <InHisName> no updates, maybe you are all updated now
[19:56] <jrmy> but im updating from the update manager right now
[19:56] <jrmy> however with sudo apt-get update there are none
[19:56] <ChinnoDog> jrmy: you don't understand the command you are running
[19:56] <jrmy> gotcha
[19:56] <ChinnoDog> 'sudo apt-get update' downloads the list of packages from all of your sources
[19:57] <jrmy> ive been away too long
[19:57] <ChinnoDog> 'sudo apt-get upgrade' is what installs new packages
[19:57] <jrmy> oh
[19:57] <ChinnoDog> So if 'sudo apt-get update' returns without errors, then run the upgrade
[19:57] <jrmy> well i assume thats what im doing with the ubuntu update manager
[19:58] <ChinnoDog> Sort of, but update manager won't dump out all the errors fror you
[19:58] <jrmy> well so far i havent gotten anymore arrors
[19:59] <jrmy> however when i restarted the screen went black.. left it for liek that for awhile then hit trh power switch.. (was still booting and updating.. had an error message or 2 idk) powered it back on and yeah no errors so far
[20:00] <jrmy> brb
[20:01] <ChinnoDog> That is probably a power management glitch
[20:02] <jrmy> back
[20:03] <jrmy> the computer is old
[20:03] <jrmy> guess i'll run sudo apt-get upgrade after it installs the stuff
[20:08] <InHisName> My server install from sat, is doing the 'upgrade' now.   I have LOTS and LOTS of things upgrading.
[20:10] <jrmy> sheesh
[20:10] <InHisName> Oh it just finished.
[20:11] <jrmy> do you have slow internet?
[20:13] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: i think my sound drivers are gone
[20:13] <ChinnoDog> "gone"?
[20:13] <jrmy> no.. wait just looks liek the sound was muted.. lol
[20:14] <jrmy> ok i'll restart again since it says i have to and do the upgrade via terminal
[20:14] <InHisName> on my repaired linux, for 1st time the sound did NOT go away after a version upgrade.
[20:17] <InHisName> any grubbers around ?
[20:20] <jrmy> guess its fine now
[20:21] <jrmy> nothing needs to be updated or upgraded apparently
[20:26] <InHisName> 485 passed ?
[20:26] <InHisName> scratch that
[20:27] <jedijf> < jedijf> grub2?
[20:27] <jedijf> 15:26 < Pacs_Bot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:27] <PennBot> Title: Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> jrmy: anything else broken?
[20:31] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: not that i know of
[20:39] <jrmy> how do i change the audio device?
[20:43] <jrmy> cant seem to find it
[20:43] <jrmy> as it seems i have power to my onboard audio but nothing comes out
[20:44] <jrmy> maybe this is missing
[20:55] <jrmy> well im following a thing on this site to update the alsa driver i guess
[20:55] <jrmy> dunno if it'll fix it
[20:58] <jedijf> lamalex: i want some
[20:58] <jedijf> like, immediately
[20:58] <jedijf> even properly named
[20:58] <lamalex> jedijf,  you want some what?
[20:58] <jedijf> eggplant
[20:58] <lamalex> ha oh
[20:58] <lamalex> eggplant parmejawn sandwich would be bitchin
[20:59] <lamalex> and so messy
[20:59] <jrmy> what does eggplant taste like?
[20:59] <jedijf> about a month ago i was at a diner (surprise) and had a taste for eggplant....well eggplant was $60 per case so they didn't have any.....lame
[21:00] <jedijf> jrmy: chicken, of course
[21:00] <jrmy> lol
[21:01] <lamalex> i'm thinking about cooking up some eggplant tonight
[21:12] <InHisName> yum!
[21:27] <jrmy> so hows things in PA?
[21:31] <InHisName> ok, but jobs still hard to get hold of.
[21:40] <InHisName> The "Windows Recovery (loader)" option in grub 2, apparently is NOT a recovery partition but the boot for Win2008.
[21:43] <InHisName> How come grub comes up with that name ?     I gave in and tried it when hd0,2 wouldn't boot or be found.   hd0.1 booted just fine as before.       When I rebooted again, and pressed nothing, default was still linux server.
[23:22] <InHisName> I've booted into linux server and the two nics are reversed from what I origionally setup.   I want to reverse the info between the two nics.  Where to find it at ?   a xyz.conf file ?
[23:23] <jedijf> switch the cables
[23:24] <InHisName> I did.  now to switch the data to follow the moved cables.
[23:24] <InHisName> the settings for eth1 is in eth0 and vice versa
[23:24] <jedijf> switch cables /one/ more time
[23:25] <InHisName> NO already did that to set windows back correct.   I want to learn more of the ubuntu side of adjusting things this time.
[23:28] <InHisName> mostly need to find where default gateway is set for eth0 and remove it to eth1
[23:28] <InHisName> maybe dns settings too.
[23:29] <InHisName> kids home, itermittent till 9pm
[23:29] <jedijf> cat 70-persistent-net.rules
[23:30] <jedijf> in /etc/udev/rules.d ^^^ InHisName
[23:30] <jedijf> put mac address in right spot..../etc/init.d/networking restart