[05:02] I finally fixed my old linux box after 14 months of freezing at "Checking battery status". [05:03] Now am missing my nvidia drivers. I've forgotten how to put the extras into ubuntu ? [11:10] Morning PA. [11:12] Morning already, JonathanD [11:12] Yup. [11:12] Seems like it comes every day! [11:13] amazine! [11:13] can't even spell this early [12:36] InHisName: check 'hardware drivers' [12:37] InHisName: ask your doctor about amazine. [12:37] InHisName: System--Admin--Hardware Drivers [12:38] Side effects include muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death. [13:39] Thanks, jedijf, now on to delving into side effects of 'hardware drivers' - muscle loss, nausea, insomnia, death, skin spotting, hair loss, and death. [13:39] Oops mixing threads [13:46] no hdw drivers found. [13:46] attempting to synaptic etc. to put them in. [13:47] I wonder if my sound is gone too. [13:55] jedijf: "no proprietary devices in use on this system". [13:55] I used synaptic to install nividia173 - seemed to be good. [13:56] STILL "no proprietary ..." [13:56] Re-booted [13:56] STILL "no proprietary ..." [13:57] I'm still missing a step somewhere. [14:04] InHisName: if there were no propreitary drivers.....then there are NO PROPREITARY drivers required...the open source ones should work [14:05] required or available [14:06] and if you are in synaptic......they are working...... [14:10] if you /need/ them look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [14:10] Title: BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com) [14:12] No, I guess they got an open source one now. [14:13] 'cept my mouse arrow disappeared. Mouse still working just no arrow to see. [14:25] Morning lamalex [14:29] morning knightzero and lamalex and jedijf and JonathanD and who ever else is awake [14:29] A good morning to you as well, InHisName [14:31] OK, so in mouse setup there is option: 'show location of mouse pointer whn ctrl key pressed' [14:32] But it is SILL awkward to move mouse repeatedly pressing control to see if mouse is close enough to do what I want. [14:34] is this in a virtual situation? [14:34] no [14:35] uncheck that control option....remove that nvidia stuff you installed willy nilly....*log* out..log back in [14:35] ok [14:37] wierd! I just switched KVM to old ubuntu with 10.04 now fixed. Mouse came to life, now has arrow. [14:38] I've switched back and forth several times and this is first that had visible mouse arrow.! [14:39] Going into synaptic and removing superfluous software drivers. [14:48] while selecting for removal, screen went black and said: "unsupported screen, going to default 640x400" strange [14:48] continuing with removal..... [14:48] hmmm.....check display and options....maybe not as superfluous as previously thought [14:49] either way... the cursor will now be big enough to see [15:12] even wierder, I re-installed nvidia73. nothing. Rebooted, now can go hi res. [15:12] I need to fix graphics on crissis old laptop. [15:12] Now NO mouse or ctrl locator function [15:13] It's an older ATI, I don't think it's very well supported. [15:13] got mouse just no arrow or locator [15:15] tried going into "appearance" screen went black, green led still lit though. [15:16] Probably loosing all hi-res and dropping to default 640x480 [15:24] things still are not stable yet [15:24] InHisName: what was wrong with it? [15:24] oops [15:24] My window was scrolled way up [15:24] n/m [15:24] tried to go hi res and bungled a buncha stuff [15:25] on a system I fixed after being frozen at "checking battery status" for 14 months. [15:30] You didn't even try turning off and back on during those 14 months? [15:31] about 100 - 200 times [15:34] this site got me to fix it: http://superuser.com/questions/163621/stuck-on-checking-battery-state-at-startup-in-ubuntu-have-splash-screen-no-start [15:34] Title: Stuck on Checking battery state at startup in Ubuntu, have splash screen no startup - Super User (at superuser.com) [15:35] now am up and running with old system. 'freshly' upgraded to 10.04 [15:35] trying to get mouse arrrow and hi res to play nicely together [15:37] dropped res to 1280 and try rebooting to see what that does. [15:40] ok the mouse finder is back working, But no mouse arrow yet. [15:41] Where do I change the shape of the mouse arrow ? [15:43] how to spell Mr. Bacon's handle name ? [15:48] Ok, I got my mouse arrow back. I had to type my password and there it was. [15:48] I change screen size and need to wait for password prompt to test this hypothesis. [17:05] Sound works but avi only plays sounds no picutures. [17:06] Yes, waiting for password prompt 'restores' the mouse arrow. [17:38] @monolog [17:38] I don't have a clue. [17:39] @help [17:39] InHisName: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [17:39] help [17:39] @list [17:39] InHisName: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Filter, Games, Infobot, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Nickometer, Owner, Seen, Status, String, URL, Unix, Utilities, Weather, and Web [17:40] @monologue [17:40] andrew: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. [17:40] spelling helps [17:40] @monologue [17:40] InHisName: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. [17:40] you interrupted my 2 hour run.... [17:41] aww [17:41] you could have had it if you spelled correctly [17:41] andrew: any thoughts on when I change screen size, the mouse arrow disappears until I get a password prompt. [17:42] for Ubuntu 10.04 [17:42] Do you know how to spell Mr. bacon's handle name ? [17:47] InHisName: do you have any 'desktop effects' enabled? [17:48] if so, try turning them off [18:12] not yet, set at default bare level. [18:15] SamuraiAlba [18:16] I want more stability before that kind of playing around. [18:17] Thanks teddy-dbear [18:17] somebody needs to learn how to check logs [18:29] @later tell SamuraiAlba Too bad I couldn't send to your fiance instead --- http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_life/2011-04-16/bacon-scented-perfume-sizzles.html [18:29] InHisName: The operation succeeded. [18:43] anyone know of job/career fairs this mon-tues-wed ? [18:54] No knowledge on fairs so to speak, but what field are you looking at, InHisName? [18:57] If you are looking for IT field work, and don't mind the combination of contract work and helpdesk, my agency might have an opening that fits your requirements. [18:58] I know that there's some hiring going on for my location at some point in the near future. [19:03] knightzero: where in PA might that be. I'm near Doylestown. Approx 23mi NORTH of CC. [19:12] The office I work for is in Oaks, PA. However, I know that the company I contract through has customers all over the tri-state area. [19:17] For the location that I work in, you'd be looking at about 25 miles - the commute may or may not be worth it, depending on how much you like driving. [19:25] anyone on? [19:25] We are all "on"... [19:26] right.. [19:26] been awhile.. [19:26] It has. [19:26] anyways my os seems to be messed up and i wonder if theres a way to reinstall it without a cd [19:26] OK, now I've updated grub 2 a few times and have added more pixels and a background. [19:26] liek revert it to a fresh state [19:27] Still need to add 2nd primary partition on sda1 to discover win2008, or do I need to hand code it ? [19:27] jrmy: What exactly is wrong with it? [19:28] ChinnoDog: well it failed updating [19:28] think it has a few other problems [19:28] That doesn't sound like a very good reason to reinstall. Why don't you just fix it? [19:28] I had that, and finally fixed mine last night. [19:29] thought i'd just make it easier [19:29] It was hanging just after 'checking battery status' ??? it was a desktop. [19:29] Reinstalling isn't easier. Just fix it. [19:30] jrmy: first fix your updates. What is happening? [19:30] not sure.. [19:30] does it finish booting to something usable ? [19:31] idk.. i'll try upadting again.. [19:33] ChinnoDog: it says that some of the packages cant be recieved from the servers [19:34] i dont know what packages so i dont know if i want to ignore them.. maybe theyre old and the servers are not existent [19:34] its been forever since i used this thing [19:36] Do a 'sudo apt-get update' from the command line [19:36] It should tell you which sources are broken [19:36] well first im installing the updates it did get [19:36] and i hit yes on ignore so idk if it will show them [19:37] ok im restarting [19:54] should i have updates in the update manager when i do the upadte in terminal? [19:54] and in terminal there isnt any new [19:54] idk im confused [19:55] is it possible i have a virus? [19:55] no updates, maybe you are all updated now [19:56] but im updating from the update manager right now [19:56] however with sudo apt-get update there are none [19:56] jrmy: you don't understand the command you are running [19:56] gotcha [19:56] 'sudo apt-get update' downloads the list of packages from all of your sources [19:57] ive been away too long [19:57] 'sudo apt-get upgrade' is what installs new packages [19:57] oh [19:57] So if 'sudo apt-get update' returns without errors, then run the upgrade [19:57] well i assume thats what im doing with the ubuntu update manager [19:58] Sort of, but update manager won't dump out all the errors fror you [19:58] well so far i havent gotten anymore arrors [19:59] however when i restarted the screen went black.. left it for liek that for awhile then hit trh power switch.. (was still booting and updating.. had an error message or 2 idk) powered it back on and yeah no errors so far [20:00] brb [20:01] That is probably a power management glitch [20:02] back [20:03] the computer is old [20:03] guess i'll run sudo apt-get upgrade after it installs the stuff [20:08] My server install from sat, is doing the 'upgrade' now. I have LOTS and LOTS of things upgrading. [20:10] sheesh [20:10] Oh it just finished. [20:11] do you have slow internet? [20:13] ChinnoDog: i think my sound drivers are gone [20:13] "gone"? [20:13] no.. wait just looks liek the sound was muted.. lol [20:14] ok i'll restart again since it says i have to and do the upgrade via terminal [20:14] on my repaired linux, for 1st time the sound did NOT go away after a version upgrade. [20:17] any grubbers around ? [20:20] guess its fine now [20:21] nothing needs to be updated or upgraded apparently [20:26] 485 passed ? [20:26] scratch that [20:27] < jedijf> grub2? [20:27] 15:26 < Pacs_Bot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [20:27] Title: Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com) [20:29] jrmy: anything else broken? [20:31] ChinnoDog: not that i know of [20:39] how do i change the audio device? [20:43] cant seem to find it [20:43] as it seems i have power to my onboard audio but nothing comes out [20:44] maybe this is missing [20:55] well im following a thing on this site to update the alsa driver i guess [20:55] dunno if it'll fix it [20:58] lamalex: i want some [20:58] like, immediately [20:58] even properly named [20:58] jedijf, you want some what? [20:58] eggplant [20:58] ha oh [20:58] eggplant parmejawn sandwich would be bitchin [20:59] and so messy [20:59] what does eggplant taste like? [20:59] about a month ago i was at a diner (surprise) and had a taste for eggplant....well eggplant was $60 per case so they didn't have any.....lame [21:00] jrmy: chicken, of course [21:00] lol [21:01] i'm thinking about cooking up some eggplant tonight [21:12] yum! [21:27] so hows things in PA? [21:31] ok, but jobs still hard to get hold of. [21:40] The "Windows Recovery (loader)" option in grub 2, apparently is NOT a recovery partition but the boot for Win2008. [21:43] How come grub comes up with that name ? I gave in and tried it when hd0,2 wouldn't boot or be found. hd0.1 booted just fine as before. When I rebooted again, and pressed nothing, default was still linux server. [23:22] I've booted into linux server and the two nics are reversed from what I origionally setup. I want to reverse the info between the two nics. Where to find it at ? a xyz.conf file ? [23:23] switch the cables [23:24] I did. now to switch the data to follow the moved cables. [23:24] the settings for eth1 is in eth0 and vice versa [23:24] switch cables /one/ more time [23:25] NO already did that to set windows back correct. I want to learn more of the ubuntu side of adjusting things this time. [23:28] mostly need to find where default gateway is set for eth0 and remove it to eth1 [23:28] maybe dns settings too. [23:29] kids home, itermittent till 9pm [23:29] cat 70-persistent-net.rules [23:30] in /etc/udev/rules.d ^^^ InHisName [23:30] put mac address in right spot..../etc/init.d/networking restart