[00:00] <travaler> edbian: I am not sure but I don't think it showed up
[00:00] <edbian> travaler: You can pastebin it.  paste.ubuntu.com
[00:00] <edbian> Knuxgen: what is virtual clone drive?
[00:01] <travaler> edbian I have no internet on ubuntu box :(
[00:01] <Knuxgen> edbian: used to mount a virtual drive
[00:01] <octavio-rdz> Hi ppl I have a question ... I have 2 computeres a desktop and a laptop and I would like to connect remotely to the desktop using the laptop I  I had been able to connect by ssh -Y ....  but if I have an application runing in the desktop I would like to see that application in the laptop is there a way to do that?
[00:01] <induz> ose-dkms and ose-qt are also coming with -ose
[00:01] <edbian> travaler: Then you'll just have to read the output yourself :(
[00:01] <edbian> Knuxgen: What is a virtual drive?  (your harddrives and jump drives are physical)
[00:01] <pfifo> edbian, /dev/loop device for windows
[00:01] <induz> edbian, do i have to download some utilities too
[00:01] <edbian> induz: no. the package should do it for you
[00:02] <sl33k_> 10.04 hangs with a greyish screen. any workaround?
[00:02] <Knuxgen> edbian: it makes a virtual cd/dvd rom and mounts an iso file so you dont have to burn it
[00:02] <edbian> Knuxgen: neato
[00:02] <HeimdalWK> I am installing ubuntu 10.10 on a spare PC and I am stuck on the Who are you? screen  I filled out all the fields and I still can't press the forward button
[00:02] <induz> also, edbian , do i need a DVD iso image as i have iso image on my HDD'
[00:02] <edbian> Knuxgen: this is not wubi.  (unless you start wubi) I don't think you'll be able to install Ubuntu because you won't be able to partition
[00:02] <edbian> induz: not for virtualbox
[00:03] <travaler> edbian it is confirmed it does NOT show up, I simply compared the output with it pluged in vs. not pluged in
[00:03] <sl33k_> is there any fix when ubuntu hangs?
[00:03] <edbian> travaler: lsusb
[00:03] <induz> edbian, thanks
[00:03] <edbian> induz: sure
[00:03] <Knuxgen> edbian: i've made two partitions before to be ready for ubuntu
[00:03] <Knuxgen> it's just i can't install it
[00:03] <Aftermath> Hey, Ive installed preload, what else can i do to speed up ubuntu?
[00:03] <travaler> edbian yes it shows up
[00:03] <edbian> Knuxgen: Why can't you?
[00:03] <travaler> edbian as Belkin F5D6050 802.11b Adapter
[00:03] <edbian> Aftermath: Use a light weight desktop like xfce or lxde.  Turn of compiz
[00:03] <Knuxgen> edbian: however i burn it, it gives me the screen i posted
[00:04] <Knuxgen> edbian: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Tr3-Pi0d7LQ/TatmuiIp3fI/AAAAAAAAAJc/PKjjiKWEicI/s1440/IMAG0050.jpg
[00:04] <edbian> Knuxgen: link please?
[00:04] <edbian> Knuxgen: Oh yeah.  The image is bad.
[00:04] <Knuxgen> it seems so crazy strainght-forward
[00:04] <edbian> Knuxgen: Didn't we do this a while ago?
[00:04] <Knuxgen> straight*
[00:04] <sl33k_>  is there any fix when ubuntu hangs?
[00:05] <daftykins> octavio-rdz: you'd have to use VNC
[00:05] <Knuxgen> edbian: we did, i burned again, md5sum is correct, dont know what else might be wrong
[00:06] <SniperXPX> How do I modify my sshd_config or iptables so that only certain users are allowed to SSH into the box if they are localhost?
[00:06] <pfifo> Knuxgen, are you at that prompt now? (initramfs)
[00:06] <edbian> Knuxgen: mmm.  try the other CD drive?
[00:06] <sl33k_> gah
[00:08] <cybrhuman> SniperXPX: changing iptables to only allow ssh from localhost should be straightforward, instead of ALL write 'localhost' I think
[00:08] <SniperXPX> cyberhuman: only for certain users
[00:08] <multipass> hi, i cant get into ubuntu or safe mode, it seems as though theres some big error with my usb devices.. the last thing i did was some stuff in oracle virtual box with usb (iphone).. anyone know if theres something i can do?
[00:08] <SniperXPX> cyberhuman: not for all ssh connections
[00:08] <adac> is there a way to increase inodes?
[00:09] <cybrhuman> SniperXPX: aha, then I cannot help much I think, but I assume you need to look into some sshd config.
[00:09] <bin_bash> Hello. I have a MBP 8,1 and I followed the instructions for making a bootable USB on OS X, but when I try to select the USB from the boot menu it doesn't show up.
[00:09] <adac> i would still have 40 gigs freem, but my inodes are full
[00:09] <Knuxgen> edbian: dont have any other :) i'll try to go with UNetbootin and we will see
[00:09] <SniperXPX> cyberhuman: wasn't sure if there was some inter-operability with iptables and ssh or something, pam perhaps, i don't know.
[00:09] <Knuxgen> edbian: thanks for your time
[00:09] <edbian> Knuxgen: good luck!
[00:10] <edbian> Knuxgen: I'm guessing you have a sata CD drive and Ubuntu is getting confused with your sata HDD and your sata CD drive
[00:10] <multipass> when is ubuntu 11.04 released? was it the 22nd
[00:10] <popey> !natty
[00:11] <HeimdalWK> Installing Ubuntu10.10 I am stuck on the Usersetup screen I have filled out the fields but I still can not press forward
[00:11] <cubix> Greetings!
[00:11] <pfifo> adac, you can use tune2fs to do that, check the man page for specifics
[00:12] <multipass> has anyone heard of usb devices making ubuntu unable to boot up?
[00:12] <Seven_Six_Two> multipass, I have. I can't get past post if my usb external hd is plugged in
[00:12] <pfifo> HeimdalWK, make sure your username is in all lowercase
[00:12] <multipass> hmm
[00:13] <multipass> im almost to the point of reformatting, i cant get into ubuntu regular or safe mode
[00:13] <HeimdalWK> wow that was it
[00:13] <adac> pfifo, kk thank you!
[00:13] <HeimdalWK> Thank you pfifo
[00:13] <cak054_> i need to learn about conky where do i go?
[00:13] <pfifo> yup
[00:13] <leftist> is there any way to access an iphone with 4.2.1?
[00:13] <mickster04> multipass: why don';t you just pull it out?
[00:13] <Osmodivs> Why does Ubuntu Does NOT recognizes my PCI WIFI card? It has been acting weird, I only have one PCI slot, and I constantly switch my Soundcard and my WIFI, perhaps the PCI slot is damaged? Becasue it was working a day ago
[00:13] <multipass> ive discnnected all usb devices and it still has problems
[00:14] <multipass> but in safe mode it permemently scans for usb devices
[00:14] <multipass> if i plug one in it checks it out
[00:14] <SniperXPX> How do I configure iptables or ssh so that only connections from localhost are allowed to be authenticated for certain users over ssh (ex: only user foobar may connect if source-address=localhost/127.0.0.1 but root may login from ANY source-ipaddress)
[00:14] <mickster04> multipass: and then continues?
[00:14] <Seven_Six_Two> I hate it when a perfect opportunity arises for a "that's what she said" joke, and I can't say it because it's not rated G
[00:14] <multipass> mickster04: no, it just stays there... i can keep unplugging and replugging and it will list the device
[00:15] <luciferus> на руском кто нибудь говорит?
[00:15] <Seven_Six_Two> !ru | luciferus
[00:15] <leftist> is there any way to access an iphone with 4.2.1?
[00:15] <_pg_> leftist: ?
[00:16] <leftist> i cant access my iphone as a external device _pg_
[00:16] <lenyem> how can I tell the PID of the shell I am currently running?
[00:16] <multipass> leftist: i used oracle virtual box and ran a xp box for my iphone
[00:16] <_pg_> leftist: try gtkpod
[00:16] <Osmodivs> Luciferus is not speaking Russian, he is speaking Kosovo
[00:17] <leftist> yeah multipass i know but i wanted to do it more native
[00:17] <leftist> ok _pg_
 People come here just for help?
[00:17] <multipass> yeah.. i tried that
[00:17] <Seven_Six_Two> luciferus, yes
[00:17] <Osmodivs> luciferus, Nein
[00:17] <luciferus> ok
[00:17] <Osmodivs> luciferus, Niet
[00:17] <luciferus> i not need help
[00:17] <luciferus> bye
[00:18] <Osmodivs> I do need help
[00:18] <Osmodivs> bye
[00:18] <leftist> get the following error with just a normal insert DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[00:18] <pfifo> lenyem, you can type 'tty' to get the name of you tty, and then 'ps aux' to cross reference the tty to a bash program with a PID
[00:18] <Seven_Six_Two> luciferus, you could hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:18] <chotaz> How do I install easycam2 on Ubuntu 10.10
 very uncomfortable and unusual client program, I'm sorry, I saw immediately
[00:20] <_pg_> on my ubuntu machine, i want to use sun java. i installed it, but still have something called "java". i have removed open jdk also
[00:21] <mickster04> _pg_: this is a problem because...?
[00:22] <multipass> im about to reformat.. should i go with 11.04 or 10.10?
[00:23] <leftist> i think gtkpod works my iphone is empty of media but i will try it
[00:23] <_pg_> mickster04: i want to know its using sun java not "java"
[00:23] <_pg_> im trying to play minecraft but its a real struggle
[00:24] <chotaz> How do I install easycam2 on Ubuntu 10.10=?
[00:25] <Aginor> _pg_, 'java' is the generic name for most java interpreters. doing 'which java' and 'java -version' should tell you more about the specific JVM you have installed
[00:25] <Aginor> _pg_, (in a terminal window)
[00:25] <mickster04> chotaz: is it in the repos?
[00:25] <chotaz> mickster04 no
[00:26] <mickster04> chotaz: what file type is the installer available in?
[00:26] <_pg_> thanks :D
[00:26] <aw2s0m2> Googling:)
[00:26] <chotaz> mickster04: I wanna get my NGS Spincam working
[00:26] <chotaz> mickster04: *.deb
[00:26] <mickster04> chotaz: it should just work, have you tried cheese?
[00:26] <mickster04> !info cheese
[00:26] <chotaz> mickster04:  yep says no webcam was detected yet I run lsusb, and one device without name shows up
[00:28] <chotaz> mickster04: that unnamed deviced disappears after unplugging the webcam from the computer
[00:28] <mickster04> !webcam
[00:28] <mickster04> chotaz: try that? otherwise i have no idea
[00:29] <induz> eok VBox is running now
[00:30] <jessicaBR> hello, I wonder if anyone has the same problem as I... Everytime I try to connect to a wireless network my ubuntu crashes... It completely freezes, no even Ctrl+Alt+F1 works... Any idea why? Wireless drivers problems?
[00:30] <antant> hey guys. can I use aptitude or apt-get to find out what package contains a file I need?
[00:32] <arand> antant: Use apt-file
[00:32] <pfifo> antant, i dont think it can search given the name of a binary, but its worth trying
[00:32] <antant> cheers arand
[00:32] <zkriesse> I'd roll with synaptic package manager myself
[00:33] <qubit1> hi
[00:33] <zkriesse> qubit1: Hi
[00:34] <octavio-rdz> ext4 or btrfs for a SSD disc?
[00:34] <jessicaBR> if someone knows how to help me, pls do it :) This problem is really freaking me out... :-(
[00:34] <arand> octavio-rdz: ext4 is stable, btrfs not.
[00:34] <jessicaBR> Everytime I try to connect to a wireless network my ubuntu crashes... It completely freezes, no even Ctrl+Alt+F1 works... Any idea why? Wireless drivers problems?
[00:35] <vadi2> When X server completely crashes, where to look for logs?
[00:35] <zkriesse> !wireless | jessicaBR
[00:36] <jessicaBR> zkriesse, what does that mean?
[00:36] <jessicaBR> ubottu, thanks, going to read it
[00:36] <jessicaBR> hmm
[00:36] <jessicaBR> i see
[00:36] <pfifo> vadi2, /var/log has the Xorg logs
[00:36] <vadi2> Which ones are relevant?
[00:36] <edcruz> relow
[00:36] <zkriesse> Lol sorry jessicaBR other than that link I cant think of much right off the top of my head :)
[00:36] <pfifo> vadi2, the most recent
[00:37] <jessicaBR> zkriesse, np, that's great, going to read it
[00:37] <vadi2> Only has loading information as far as I acn see
[00:37] <zkriesse> jessicaBR: :)
[00:37] <edcruz> Edson BR
[00:38] <edcruz> tem alguem que tc portugues ai??
[00:38] <sundjinnkari> Does anyone know if steam can run on linux?
[00:38] <sundjinnkari> or better yet, ubuntu
[00:38] <pfifo> vadi2, yeah that its log, if it crashed there might be some info in dmesg or syslog, but usually you dont get much more than a backtrace
[00:38] <Aginor> sundjinnkari, using wine
[00:38] <Aginor> !wine | sundjinnkari
[00:39] <sundjinnkari> how well does it run in wine?
[00:39] <pfifo> sundjinnkari, im pretty sure steam makes a linux version now
[00:39] <pfifo> valve rather
[00:39] <aeon-ltd> pfifo: they denied that a few months ago
[00:40] <jessicaBR> edcruz, eu :)
[00:40] <pfifo> sundjinnkari, i got MW2 running in wine, steam works fine, the games are the problem
[00:40] <sundjinnkari> Ah.
[00:40] <Aginor> sundjinnkari, it varies between applications, steam works pretty well though. it's what the appdb is for
[00:40] <sundjinnkari> alright.
[00:40] <sundjinnkari> then again you get a game like Rise of Nations where there really isnt much documentation and a ton of problems.
[00:40] <sundjinnkari> Which also burns me.
[00:40] <sundjinnkari> because I love that game.
[00:43] <_pg_> where should i put apps i install?
[00:43] <ndxtg> anyone free? please help me fix this 7 line bash code: http://pastebin.com/Rs1sQtDK . I run "./runmount.sh u" to unmount but it gives error
[00:44] <pfifo> _pg_, /usr/local is mde for that /opt is available too
[00:44] <_pg_> thx
[00:45] <_pg_> pfifo: any deeper in usr/local?
[00:45] <Aginor> ndxtg, bash doesn't like spaces around the variables for assignments, also, variables don't use the '$' when they're being declared
[00:45] <Aginor> sundjinnkari, write the developer and ask them to release a native linux port of the game
[00:46] <pfifo> _pg_, no bins in /usr/local/bin libs in /usr/local/lib
[00:46] <Aginor> ndxtg, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[00:47]  * _pg_ is a noob. where do i put apps, usr/local/xxx
[00:47] <pfifo> _pg_, apps = bin
[00:47] <Ben64> _pg_: how are you installing them
[00:47] <pfifo> _pg_, compile like this, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install
[00:48] <Ben64> almost all of the time you would never put binaries in there manualy
[00:48] <_pg_> mostly just extracting zips, .jars, etc
[00:49] <_pg_> not compiling
[00:50] <UbuntuN00b1> is the ubuntu desktop edition that is installed with the netbook edition the same as the *original* desktop edition?
[00:50] <antant> anyone have any idea where I get '/usr/lib/libc.a'? I've tried apt-file and it came up with nothing
[00:50] <ndxtg> Aginor: got it; it's fixed now, thank you
[00:50] <pfifo> _pg_, tthe binaries go in /usr/local/bin but if you have a package that wants everything in a single folder then you put it in /opt
[00:50] <_pg_> alright ill tr that
[00:50] <cubix> Greetings!
[00:51] <multipass> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 freezes shortly after running  /scripts/init-bottom -- any idea how i can fix this
[00:52] <Tukanfan> exit
[00:53] <Aginor> !find /usr/lib/libc.a
[00:53] <Aftermath> I want to stream to and from my Ubuntu laptop, what program will allow this? I use TVersity on my windows Machine.
[00:53] <Aginor> !find /usr/lib/libc.a | antant
[00:53] <antant> cheers aginor, but I got that installed
[00:53] <Tunix2> Okay so I want the sys group to have recursive read and write permissions on the directory /home/game i used: #chmod -R +rwx :adm /home/games
[00:53] <Tunix2> and it didnt work
[00:53] <antant> nope
[00:53] <antant> oh
[00:53] <antant> not to me
[00:53] <Tunix2> i meant #chmod -R +rwx :sys /home/games
[00:54] <pfifo> Aftermath, I havent found a solution myself, good luck
[00:54] <chotaz> I conenct my webcan and when I do lsusb all i get is a device with no name on it, what can i do?
[00:54] <Tunix2> no such file or directory ':sys'
[00:54] <Aftermath> pfifo im looking at a guide on Maximum PC, ill link you if it works
[00:55] <pfifo> Aftermath, dont bother with Red6 or FME neither worked out for me
[00:55] <Aftermath> ok
[00:55] <servidor> alguem do brasil?
[00:55] <Aginor> antant, have you installed development-essentials?
[00:55] <_pg_> can i change perms on /opt? i cant put anything in there
[00:55] <_pg_> i mean i know i can, is it wise?
[00:56] <antant> nope
[00:56] <Aginor> _pg_, use sudo to work with it
[00:56] <antant> I'll try that, cheers
[00:56] <pfifo> _pg_, you should be installing system wide programs as root
[00:56] <Aginor> antant, what do you need the file for?
[00:56] <_pg_> is there like a sudo paste?
[00:56] <antant> building OpenELEC
[00:57] <doobien> Aftermath, i use minidlna and ps3mediaserver
[00:57] <Baribal> _pg_, a what?
[00:57] <_pg_> im just trying to move this stuff from downloads to /opt
[00:57] <Baribal> Anyways, hi. Where is the compiz effect configurator hiding, or what is its name these days?
[00:57] <Aginor> antant, install build-essentials, that should be a good start, then you might need to install a few more -dev packages
[00:57] <_pg_> because thats where programs are supposed to live im told
[00:57] <mithridates> I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 that in the last stage I got hdd failure, I did "dpkg --configure -a" now when I boot it nothing happens, a black screen
[00:57] <mithridates> how can I fix that ^
[00:57] <Baribal> _pg_, sudo cp or sudo mv?
[00:57] <pfifo> _pg_, best to use the cli, but you can try sudo nautilus
[00:57] <antant> got build-essential
[00:57] <_pg_> thnx
[00:58] <fuller> Can someone help me with the hcitool cc command
[00:58] <antant> it lists all the stuff that's missing, /usr/lib/libc.a was that last one on the list
[00:58] <Aftermath> doobien, I found minidlna but see NO install directions
[00:58] <chotaz> I get this in 'demsg' when I plugin my webcam: 'endpoint lacks sample rate attribute bit, cannot set.' what mgiht this be?
[00:58] <ckwalsh> Just asked in #ubuntu+1 and didn't get a response. Is Unity the default for the normal desktop version of Ubuntu in 11.04?
[00:59] <pfifo> ckwalsh, yes
[00:59] <mithridates> I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 that in the last stage I got hdd failure, I did "dpkg --configure -a" now when I boot it nothing happens, a black screen
[00:59] <Aginor> ckwalsh, as far as I know, yes
[00:59] <mithridates> any idea ??? how can I fix it?
[00:59] <Aginor> !natty | mithridates
[00:59] <mithridates> thanks
[01:00] <Aginor> antant, I'll be back in an hour or so, do have a look if that file really is missing
[01:00] <_pg_> bad magic number?
[01:00] <chotaz> I get this in 'demsg' when I plugin my webcam: 'endpoint lacks sample rate attribute bit, cannot set.' what mgiht this be?
[01:00] <_pg_> exec format errer
[01:00] <pfifo> !wine | _pg_
[01:00] <doobien> Aftermath, there is a easy to follow file that gives you examples in /etc/minidlna.conf
[01:01] <sparrW> My firefox has somehow ended up using gnash instead of the adobe flash player. All three (firefox, gnash, flash) are installed from ubuntu packages. How can I fix this?
[01:01] <_pg_> its a nix app im moving
[01:01] <antant> Cheers aginor. I found it in /usr/lib/linux-i386/ or somewhere like that so I just cp'd it in
[01:01] <Aftermath> doobien, thanks
[01:02] <pfifo> _pg_, then it might be the wrong arch, or maybe 64bit and your on 32bit
[01:03] <multipass> can anyone help? ubuntu 10.10 freezes after running /scripts/init-bottom, i cannot get into ubuntu
[01:04] <pfifo> multipass, did you put anything into init-bottom
[01:05] <multipass> pfifo: no, the last thing i was doing was using vbox i believe
[01:05] <rhizmoe> can i "eager load" my disk connections, like the sidebar bookmarks and desktop drive icons? They tend only to show up when I hunt down the drive manually.
[01:05] <pfifo> multipass, so it hasnt always frozen?
[01:05] <multipass> pfifo: just started this morning when i turned the machne on
[01:06] <jessicaBR> guys, still having this problem, which makes my ubuntu crash 80% of the times I try to connect a wireless network... any idea of what might be the problem?
[01:06] <pfifo> multipass, boot without "quiet splash"
[01:06] <steiner> what could be the cause of my computer randomly freezing up?
[01:07] <multipass> pfifo: whats the command to do that?
[01:07] <andrew_> list
[01:07] <pfifo> multipass, you just have to edit the kernel line manually when your in the grub menu
[01:08] <Aftermath> doobien, may i please pm you for a moment?
[01:08] <doobien> mmmk
[01:09] <Aftermath> pfifo, may i pm you for a moment?
[01:10] <pfifo> i guess
[01:10] <chotaz> I get this in 'demsg' when I plugin my webcam: 'endpoint lacks sample rate attribute bit, cannot set.' what mgiht this be?
[01:11] <liukunfeng> Where are you come from ?
[01:12] <liukunfeng> ?
[01:13] <multipass_> pfifo,  i removed the quiet splash, and it looks the same
[01:13] <CptAnon> Is this the only ubuntu chat?
[01:13] <CptAnon> !topic
[01:14] <pfifo> are you sure its froze? press ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to terminal
[01:14] <pfifo> multipass_, are you sure its froze? press ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to terminal
[01:14] <multipass_> keyboard access ceases, pfifo
[01:15] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me why emerald won't run?
[01:15] <pfifo> multipass_, boot into rescue mode with networking
[01:15] <user__> Hello all
[01:16] <kaushal> hi
[01:16] <user__> Hi kaushal
[01:16] <user__> i have a question for the room..
[01:16] <kaushal> what are the different phases of development of new ubuntu releases
[01:17] <CptAnon> user__, shoot
[01:17] <kaushal> and whats tested in alpha1 or alpha2 or alpha3 or beta1 or beta2 ?
[01:17] <multipass_> pfifo, how do i boot into rescue mode?
[01:17] <user__> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 on a laptop and I'm having issues connecting to my wireless network.
[01:18] <lolmatic> hi
[01:18] <pfifo> multipass_, there should be an option for it in grub
[01:18] <CptAnon> user__,  can you give any more detail?
[01:18] <lolmatic> where is xorg.conf located in ubuntu? i cant find it
[01:18] <multipass_> oh, i have been trying recovery mode, but it hangs after the init-bottom also
[01:18] <kaushal> user__: please pastebin your lspci
[01:18] <pfifo> multipass_, both with and without networking?
[01:19] <fr00g> Can anybody help me with emerald? I type emerald --replace into a terminal, and the cursor starts to flash, but it's not wroking
[01:19] <user__> sure, i set up a connection and enter the WEP hex code, it sits for a while and then the connection window pops up again
[01:19] <multipass_> pfifo, im booting into (recovery mode), do i do something special to get networking?
[01:20] <CptAnon> That happens to me when the code is wrong
[01:20] <pfifo> multipass_, it pops up a ncurses menu, you havent even got to that menu?
[01:20] <user__> I've checked the key several times
[01:20] <user__> checked show key...
[01:20] <CptAnon> and has it worked with other networks?
[01:21] <rww> !emerald | fr00g
[01:21] <multipass_> pfifo, im just in the grub menu atm, with ubuntu linux, ubuntu linux recovery mode
[01:21] <pfifo> multipass_, do reovery mode
[01:21] <user__> I have not tried other networks, but that is something  i will try
[01:22] <multipass_> pfifo, just hit enter? or edit the commands before booting?
[01:22] <kaushal> lolmatic: sudo find / -iname xorg.conf
[01:22] <pfifo> multipass_, just enter
[01:22] <multipass_> pfifo, i have been, but it does the same thing and dies after init-bottom.. looks just like doing no silent splash
[01:23] <pfifo> multipass_, and you said you installed some virtualbox stuff?
[01:23] <multipass_> pfifo, yeah
[01:23] <multipass_> pfifo, i may have updated ubuntu a little yesteday too
[01:23] <_SKiTZO> hi! I have several hardware MIDI devices, and I am wondering how I can enumerate them to se that they are actually found by ALSA
[01:23] <_SKiTZO> see
[01:24] <_SKiTZO> any hints would be appreciated!
[01:24] <pfifo> multipass_, It sounds like you were given a bad kernel module, perhaps a version mismatch. You should reinstall to the latest version of ubuntu
[01:25] <Fudge> hi, how can i remvoe  a package without its dependency, trying to remove speakup but speechd-up wants to go as well but i want to keep speechd-up
[01:25] <gaelfx> after I login, it takes a couple minutes for my panels to show up and none of my windows have borders, how can I fix it?
[01:25] <multipass_> pfifo, i was on 10.10 and was just upgrading some packages hmm
[01:26] <pfifo> multipass_, if you really wanted to you could try to locate the module, and delete it, but its going to be alot LOT quicker to just reinstall.
[01:27] <multipass_> pfifo, ah ok, thanks for help, trying one last thing at bottom of this page - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430272
[01:28] <user__> hehe I cant try it or I'll disconnect from this room.. is there a known issue with wireless and 10.10?
[01:28] <pfifo> multipass_, seems to be for karmic, but its worth a shot
[01:29] <gaelfx> do I need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop to get my borders back?
[01:29] <gaelfx> or is there a simpler way?
[01:31] <pfifo> gaelfx, what borders?
[01:31] <toad__> hi
[01:32] <pfifo> OHAI toad__
[01:32] <gaelfx> pfifo: the ones with the control buttons, close, mini, maxi
[01:32] <toad__> hello
[01:32] <toad__> whats good
[01:32] <pfifo> gaelfx, look in your themes settings see if theres anything it can do to restore them.
[01:33] <gaelfx> pfifo: I'll look at the customize options, thanks
[01:34] <alex__> My ubuntu 10.04 can't connect to a wireless network
[01:34] <Extra-Titanian> are your drivers installed correctly?
[01:34] <user__> alex___ I'm having the same issue with 10.10
[01:35] <user__> Extra-Titanian I'm a noob! how do i check?
[01:35] <Extra-Titanian> are the two ubuntu versions installed on the same computer?
[01:35] <wingnut2626> i need an older version of gfceu where can i get it?
[01:37] <Extra-Titanian> quick question, everytime I unplug my laptop, ubuntu shuts down
[01:37] <airstrike> your battery is kaput
[01:38] <user__> Extra-Titanian is your cooling fan running?
[01:38] <UbuntuNoob> Extra-Titanian: ubuntu or the whole laptop?
[01:38] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, disable stuff in power options, it thinks your battery is broke and goes critical
[01:38] <zee313> Dr_willis:Plz tell me any solution to retrieve my flash free space
[01:38] <Heylookitsbret> anybody able to help me create a bridge in 10.10?
[01:38] <yabuk> I cant transfer file from my ipod touch to ubuntu. my ipod opens like a usb disk, and I see files, I can copy, but the copy process never ends! hoe to fix it??
[01:39] <apocaliptica61> hi
[01:39] <Extra-Titanian> cooling fan works, laptop is still pretty new
[01:39] <zee313> yabuk: this will be done through a software.
[01:40] <apocaliptica61> Icant use wirless conection on ubunto via vmware
[01:40] <apocaliptica61> someone could help?
[01:40] <Extra-Titanian> the laptop goes into shutdown, like it does when i type shutdown, what's funny is, if it's not plugged in, everything works fine
[01:40] <JWFoxJr> apocaliptica61: use VirtualBox - it will allow you to bridge your wireless connection.
[01:40] <apocaliptica61> could tell me how?
[01:41] <UbuntuNoob> Extra-Titanian, I have a somewhat similar problem where it seems to hibernate or something, but it doesnt completely shutdown
[01:41] <yabuk> zee313: what software?
[01:41] <Extra-Titanian> that's weird
[01:41] <Extra-Titanian> good thing it boots fast i guess
[01:41] <zee313> yabuk: lets allow me to check in my system
[01:42] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, like i said, simply disable shutting down in the power options and it wont shutdown
[01:42] <NictraSavios> Back.
[01:43] <Extra-Titanian> shutdown's been disabled since i did the install, still does it
[01:43] <apocaliptica61> thx i am  installing virtualbox
[01:43] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, are you sure? there a "on battery" tab too
[01:43] <Extra-Titanian> yep
[01:43] <steverino> Question: anyone know how to make Nautilus my default file manager in xubuntu?  Right now, it's Thunar.
[01:44] <Extra-Titanian> it was like, the second thing i did after i installed
[01:44] <RealOpty> whats that tool name that makes your current ubuntu 'install' to a remastered ubuntu CD?
[01:44] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, then perhaps its your laptop
[01:45] <Extra-Titanian> which is weird because it all worked perfectly under 7.
[01:45] <Extra-Titanian> I'll have to recalibrate the battery tonight and see if that helps any
[01:46] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, I always disable acpi all together on my laptops, blacklisting acpi would probbally fix it, you might not like not having acpi tho.
[01:46] <NictraSavios> steverino: nautilus is part of the gnome desktop :) if you try to use it in xfce your gonna be in for a world of headaches
[01:46] <zee313> yabuk: you can use banshee media player.
[01:47] <Extra-Titanian> haha, what'll be the downsides of disabling it?
[01:47] <yabuk> zee313: thank you, i'm going try banshee
[01:48] <steverino> NictraSavios: Oh . . .  I actually installed it via synaptic and launch it in the terminal.  Am I going to mess things up?
[01:48] <Wolframn> yabuk, banshee is really quite good. I like it better than Rhythmbox.
[01:48] <pfifo> Extra-Titanian, no debug info, if your battery runs out of charge it simply shuts off instantly.
[01:50] <Extra-Titanian> meh, it only lasts like an hour anyway, I'll go give it a shot
[01:50] <Extra-Titanian> thanks for the help
[01:50] <pfifo> yyeah
[01:50] <NictraSavios> steverino: I'm not saying you can't do it. Its going to be very inconsistant and spit out a billion errors tho. its also gonna rely on major parts of gnome themes and icon sets, so your gonna need them. Youll need to change a ton of stuff to get it working, the likes of which scare me. And ive made an arch Linux system with xfce... So you know your inffor some pain :P But, you can do it. It will not be easy... if you want me to help you,
[01:50] <NictraSavios> ill open a private convo for 3 reasons. One) this isnt the Xubuntu irc. 2) theres alot of work involved.
[01:51] <NictraSavios> sterverino: 3) i think the mods are alredy mad at me for going off-topic a few times lmao.
[01:51] <zee313> I hav 16GB Kingston Data Traveler. I made it a bootable by using unetbootin no my flash is showing its capacity only 2 GB. Plz solve my problem. How to format it?
[01:53] <NictraSavios> zee313: you made a big persistance file didnt you?
[01:53] <pfifo> is there anyway to adjust the time that sudo allows between calls before asking for password again?
[01:53] <NictraSavios> pfifo: Yes, in the sudoers file. default is 15 minutes.
[01:54] <apocaliptica61> i just downloand ann isntall virtualbox the question is what i need to do run it ??
[01:54] <pfifo> NictraSavios, but do you know the line? My sudoers doesnt have it commented
[01:54] <ouyes> what version of ubuntu are you running? 10.04 8.04?
[01:55] <NictraSavios> apocaliptica61: Read the virtual box website, they tell you everything. www.virtualbox.org (I think, might be .com)
[01:55] <zaery> I've got a website on a server at my workplace, on port 8080, with a public, static IP. I could see the website using the local, in-building IP. Now that I'm back at my house, I can still ssh to that machine, but I get connection timeouts when i try to look for the website. Anyone Know what could be wrong?
[01:55] <apocaliptica61> ok thx
[01:55] <zaery> (All ports for that IP are forwarded to that machine, btw)
[01:55] <NictraSavios> pfifo:  hit the terminal, enter visudo (or if you want  EDITOR=gedit visudo)
[01:55] <NictraSavios> pfifo: i dont know the exact line, gimme  sec.
[01:56] <zee313> NictraSavios: Now I want to format it but here in ubuntu after format it shows my flash capacity only 2 GB. I want only how to recover my flash's original capacity????
[01:56] <pfifo> zaery, you sure apache is bound to the right address?
[01:57] <NictraSavios> pfifo: its not in there by default. add this line to the end: Defaults timestamp_timeout=0 , where 0 is the number of minutes.
[01:57] <zaery> pfifo: yup
[01:57] <NictraSavios> zee313: Oh , i had this problem with  my 4gb baby blue. I know how to fix it, i have a problem on how to explain it to you... do you have a windows partition or full ubuntu?
[01:57] <pfifo> NictraSavios, thanks
[01:57] <NictraSavios> pfifo: No problem :)
[01:58] <zaery> zee313: go to system->administration->disk utility. select your flash drive on the left. what do the partitions look like?
[01:58] <yabuk> zee313: do you can save videos from you ipod touch with banshee?
[01:58] <_pg_> i have a script that enables 2 finger scroll. when i launch it in terminal it works. i cannot get it to run as a startup item tho. i have added it to the list and i have marked it execuatable via the checkbox in nautilus and chmod a+x
[01:58] <NictraSavios> zaery: ive had this problem before, i used a special hp formating tool in windows to do it, disk utility and the stock windows formater couldnt do it.
[01:59] <pfifo> zaery, can you telnet to it on 8080
[01:59] <ouyes> which version of ubuntu was running most ? 10.04 8.04?
 add this line to the start of the script: sleep 30 (or 60)
[01:59] <zaery> pfifo: nope
[01:59] <zee313> NictraSavios: zaery: i hav my PC dual boot . I have windows XP as well as ubuntu 10.10
 that will make it wait before executing.
[02:00] <_pg_> NictraSavios: is that seconds?
[02:00] <inaxio> my rythmbox doesnt display song lengths for mp3s (dont know about other formats), what is the problem?
[02:00] <pfifo> zaery, sounds like you have a firewall blocking it somewhere
[02:00] <NictraSavios> zaery:  okay, gimme a second ill upload a tool to media fire, it will solve it kay?
 Yep :)
[02:00] <_pg_> NictraSavios: do i need /bin/bash or anything in there?
[02:00] <_pg_> its just 4 lines that all start with synclient
 #!/bin/bash should always be your first line in a bash script
[02:01] <_pg_> what is to comment out in bash
[02:01] <_pg_> \
[02:01] <zaery> NictraSavios: a tool for zee313's flash drive issue, or a tool for my port blocked issue?
[02:01] <gaelfx> ok, I'm having a really weird problem here. first, my panels take about 3+ minutes to appear after login, then my window borders are completely gone, and then when I open terminal, it takes about a minute to show up and it has some crazy garbage and then 'File name too long' before I even enter anything. what's going on with my install? (it's a fresh one)
[02:02] <apocaliptica61> so if i ahve undesrtand well we cant use wirless conextion on ubunto via vmware but only via virtualbox?
[02:02] <NictraSavios> zaery: for zee.
[02:03] <NictraSavios> zee313: http://www.mediafire.com/?exg1a1btybjlbub
[02:03] <NictraSavios> zee313: Windows program :)
[02:04] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: So.... how much time do you got. Thats gonna take a while to fix. I have no idea what you did... but i have a few ideas. Your better off on a re-install.
[02:04] <NictraSavios> apocaliptica61: Vmware on linux kinda sucks i must say, your better off using virtual box
 coment out in bash is #.
 coment out in bash is #  , no "." , just the #
[02:05] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: this is the reinstall, it was supposed to fix this problem
[02:06] <mrproper> Can anyone comment on what the best/easiest way to setup Ubuntu server as a VPN concentrator is?
[02:06] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: you formated your partitions before (or durrin) reinstall?
[02:06] <NictraSavios> mrproper: I dont know much about VPN, ill get a friend to help you tho. Ill call him over now. (hes only 10 steps away)
[02:07] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: only /, not /home
[02:07] <jmwpc> NictraSavios: Agree... I gave up on VMWare and switched to VBox. I have a windows server running as a guest with no problems.
[02:07] <RealOpty> how can i make current ubuntu 'install' to a remastered ubuntu CD?
[02:07] <mrproper> NictraSavios: Thanks.
[02:07] <NictraSavios> mrproper: He sent me a book mark > http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=132029
[02:08] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: Hmm. Id try both. For that matter, if your gonna bother with partitons... I would set up one extended partition with a 200mb /boot , a 10-20gb / and a * /home
[02:08] <mrproper> NictraSavios: Wow that seems pretty simple actually
[02:08] <pfifo> RealOpty, yes
[02:09] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: what should I throw in the /boot? livecd?
[02:09] <RealOpty> pfifo, how?
[02:09] <pfifo> RealOpty, theres a package for it
[02:09] <NictraSavios> mrproper: I didnt even open it :P me and 7 roomates share a cluster... 7 computers hooked up to one big RAID Harddrive. , hes the network guy :P
[02:10] <mrproper> NictraSavios: Oh nice.  I was going to set up OpenSWAN or something but this looks easier
[02:10] <NictraSavios> gealfx: when your installing ubuntu go to "manual" partitong, mount /boot in the 200mb one, / in the 10-20gb one and /home in the Whatever one.
[02:11] <milkdee72> hey. i was using ubuntu 10.10 tonight, and my laptop experienced massive slowdown. i restarted it, and i get to the screen where you normally log in, but my profile is not showing, so i can not log on. does anyone know whats happened? i would be forever in your debt. :D
[02:11] <NictraSavios> gealfx: since  your gonna bother with a reinstall, i would read up on "MBR partitions" it helps to have seperate /boot /home and / ones. All in a big extented no less
[02:11] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: yeah, I know how to do it, but I just don't understand how to use a /boot partition
[02:12] <kandinski> upgrading lucid to natty: good idea, bad, neutral?
[02:12] <mickster04> !natty
[02:12] <daniel> good
[02:12] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: ah, ok. is there anything else useful I can put in there like a recovery iso or something?
[02:12] <NictraSavios> gaelfx:  Ubuntu mounts grub and its images there. It means, even if you screw your system, it wont be unbootable.
[02:12] <daniel> natty is awesome
[02:12] <pfifo> RealOpty, I cant seem to find the right quesstion to ask google to get to more information
[02:12] <daniel> but how do i install gimp from the terminal
[02:13] <RealOpty> pfifo, is it Reconstructor?
[02:13] <mahfrk> hi, i downloaded the Red Eclipse FPS game from here(source file for linux) http://sourceforge.net/projects/redeclipse/files/redeclipse_1.0/ . how to install it?
[02:13] <kandinski> daniel: I meant upgrading lucid *directly* to natty from lucid without going through Maverick. I have bad bandwidth and a download cap.
[02:13] <aeon-ltd> daniel: sudo apt-get install gimp
[02:13] <mickster04> daniel: sudo apt-get install gimp<tab here)
[02:13] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: Yes you can, now that you mention it, i myself keep a "puppy linux" in my /boot for recovery. Its a little more complex, because you have to install puppy, then reinstall ubuntu.... but it dose work.
[02:13] <daniel> thx
[02:13] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: I normally separate / and /home, but I've never used /boot before, so I just wonder if there are any other neat little tricks I might do with it, so maybe I should make it larger?
[02:14] <milkdee72> anyone? :(
[02:14] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: do you just put an iso in there or what?
[02:14] <daniel> kandinski, well mabey hop from oen to the other but unity is awesome and totoally worth it
[02:15] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: But thats geting into a complexity. For your average user, like yourself. Its mainly used for multiboot setups. Say if you have Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Windows, and you wanna switch out ubuntu for open suse, but ubuntu is where grub is... well you can just format your /home and / and install suse there, and your bootloader remains untouched as long as you dont overwrite it.
[02:15] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: ok, fair enough, I'll just keep it simple I guess
[02:16] <NictraSavios> gaelfx:http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2007/11/02/why-people-insist-on-using-boot
[02:16] <pfifo> RealOpty, no there is an ubuntu official script for it that is really broken in 9.04 that i tried once and didnt work and after wards learned how to just create a custom livecd which is a better idea to begin with.
[02:16] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: sorry i didnt see, what was your porblem.
[02:16] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: problem*
[02:17] <mrproper> NictraSavios: Would you ask him if pptp uses split tunneling or no?
[02:17] <RealOpty> pfifo, i just read up on that too. but nvm i know the solution im gonna take to my issue now. ty
[02:17] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: nvm, ohh that. Hmm... i got an idea for you. Press Cntl+Alt+f1 and logg in, youll be at a pure command line tho.
[02:17] <milkdee72> NictraSavios: I was adjusting audio seetings for Skype, and I encountered massive slowdown. I did a hard reboot, and now when I reach the log in screen, my profile doesn't show up, making it impossible to log in. any suggestions?
[02:17] <milkdee72> thanks, ill try iy
[02:18] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: press cntl+alt+f7 to get back to a GUI.
[02:18] <mrproper> NictraSavios: Actually looks like the documents address that
[02:18] <NictraSavios> mrproper: Oh really, never thought to check, wanted to make sure he didnt brick gdm first.
[02:18] <milkdee72> *it
[02:19] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:19] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: mrproper: ill let you take over from here then mrproper :P
[02:19] <NictraSavios> brightsparks System>Preferances>Keyboard
[02:19] <gaelfx> is there any advantage to logical partitions beyond getting more than 4 partitions on a single drive?
[02:20] <pfifo> gaelfx, no its actuall going to tak up a bit more space too
[02:20] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: I currently have a Windows 7, A fat32 shared for all my personal files and a ntfs for disk imges. Inside an extended i have ....
[02:21] <NictraSavios> gealfx: 1 swap, 3 20gb / partitions and one 100gb /home.
[02:21] <brightspark> NictraSavios, not for my session but the little menu below the password field at login.
[02:21] <NictraSavios> gealfx: allows me to have 3 Linix distros and one windows... so theres an advantage.... :)
[02:22] <milkdee72> i managed to log in with the terminal, but when i switch back to the gui, my profile isnt showing up. thank you for getting me this far, im moderatly new to linux
[02:22] <NictraSavios> brightspark: That will fix that aswell :)
[02:22] <pfifo> NictraSavios, I use 3 20's and a large home, all primary and have a nice swapfile on home
[02:22] <gaelfx> NictraSavios: I suppose, but this machine is pretty dedicated to my TV, so that's not so important for me :P
[02:22] <NictraSavios> brightspark: It might be in administration, im in Kubuntu right now... so i cant check.
[02:22] <gaelfx> pfifo: is it a noticeable difference? or just megs?
[02:23] <pfifo> gaelfx, i think it is 8MB per partition
[02:23] <NictraSavios> pfifo: 8mb for what?
[02:23] <milkdee72> apparently.whats happening is pulse audio looping, making my login hang. anyone have the commant line for uninstalling pulseaudio for me? once again, I am a supernoob.
[02:23] <brightspark> NictraSavios, it adds them but doesn't remove them.
[02:23] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: try sudo apt-get purge pulse
[02:24] <milkdee72> *command, i suck at typing as well
[02:24] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: try sudo apt-get purge pulse-audio, and the like.
[02:24] <pfifo> NictraSavios, for a logical partition
[02:24] <NictraSavios> brightspark: reboot. they should be gone.
[02:24] <edbian> milkdee72: I believe it's sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio   no hyphen
[02:25] <NictraSavios> brightspark: or if your really geeky , you can stop the gdm service. If you dont know how, you dont need to know :P.
[02:25] <NictraSavios> edbian: Thanks :) ive never used pulse so i had no idea.
[02:26] <edbian> NictraSavios: sure
[02:26] <milkdee72> thanks again for all the help, everyone. i keep getting an error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo apt-get --configure -a' to correct the problem"
[02:27] <brightspark> NictraSavios, they aren't gone after a week's worth of reboots.
[02:27] <edbian> milkdee72: run that command
[02:27] <[[Mike]]> How can I get information on my computer's graphics card?
[02:27] <milkdee72> cool beans. ill tell you how it goes
[02:27] <NictraSavios> pfifo: Oh an thats my internel harddrive. On the raid aray is my work OS. A Archlinux with Gnome GUI and Enough Pen-test tools to crack the CIA :P
[02:28] <NictraSavios> brightspark: Hmm... that worked for me when i addecently had the croatia keyboard ..... Well honestly  have no idea, maybe someone else dose, or google :P
[02:28] <edbian> [[Mike]]: sudo lspci
[02:29] <NictraSavios> [[Mike]]: sdo lspci | less
[02:30] <milkdee72> it ran seemingly well, i got the output "Unment dependancies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specidy a solution).
[02:30] <NictraSavios> [[Mike]]: sudo * That should make it easyer to veiw it, or try sudo lspci > sometextfilename.txt
[02:30] <milkdee72> *Unmet
[02:30] <mahfrk> hi, i downloaded the Red Eclipse FPS game from here(source file for linux) http://sourceforge.net/projects/redeclipse/files/redeclipse_1.0/ . how to install it?
[02:30] <NictraSavios> mahfrk, go to the folder, right click and "open terminal here"
[02:31] <NictraSavios> mahfrk, tell me when you got that far
[02:31] <NictraSavios> mahfrk, if its in a tar.gz or somthing, youll have to extract it first.
[02:31] <mahfrk> NictraSavios: I navigated to the folder by using terminal. but what to do next?
[02:31] <NictraSavios> ./configure && make && sudo make install
[02:32] <NictraSavios> Your termainals gonna spit out messages at you like an angrey preschooler.
[02:33] <almoxarife> NictraSavios: checkinstall is a better solution, a deb pckg is easier to remove
[02:33] <mahfrk> NictraSavios: after extracting and navigating inside the directory, when i run the command you told, i got 'bash: ./configure: No such file or directory'
[02:33] <NictraSavios> almoxarife: never heard of it :P Always been taught to use those commands, i even got em set on an alias.
[02:34] <NictraSavios> almoxarife: i always just moved the source folder to /usr/src when i was done, then if i wanted to remove it, went to it and ran "sudo make uninstalll"
[02:34] <almoxarife> NictraSavios: ubuntu package 'checkinstall'
[02:34] <gaelfx> I hate to start this way, but I know I should google...is there any way to fix plymouth with the nvidia drivers? or will I always get a crappy 8-bit greeting when I boot up?
[02:35] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:35] <NictraSavios> gaelfx: if this was arch linux i could telll you in 5 seconds.... but ubuntu dosent use rc.confg or mkiinit so not a clue.
[02:35] <milkdee72> I can log in. Thanks sooooooo much guys.
[02:35] <pfifo> mahfrk, just type `make`
[02:35] <NictraSavios> Okay i need to take a breather, typing is getting horrible.
[02:36] <gaelfx> g/l, thanks for the reading NictraSavios
[02:36] <NictraSavios> mahfrk: Yep, try just "make && sudo make install"
[02:36] <NictraSavios> Dont worry im not going.... just need to get my head in order lmao.
[02:36] <mahfrk> pfifo: output: 'make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.'
[02:37] <pfifo> mahfrk, go into the src folder and try again
[02:37] <NictraSavios> mahfrk:  Hmm.... One secodn, ill download it and look for myself
[02:37] <pfifo> NictraSavios, take you a half hour or more
[02:38] <mahfrk> pfifo: okay. now it maked! but an error 'shared/cube.h:47:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make: *** [shared/cube.h.gch] Error 1'
[02:38] <NictraSavios> pfifo: nah... it says 7 minutes :P
[02:38] <NictraSavios> pfifo: nah... it says 7 minutes :P
[02:39] <NictraSavios> pfifo: We have to have a hardcore internet :P 1GBps. Were a group of white hats.
[02:39] <pfifo> mahfrk, you need to install its required dependacies, that one is `sudo apt-get install libz-dev`
[02:39] <milkdee72> im out of here everyone, but i really appreciate the help. thanks again.
[02:39] <NictraSavios> milkdee72: no prblem :)
[02:40] <Cas07> hi, ive just updated maverick to natty and i seem to have a package problem with libasound2 it wont upgrade without removing a large section of my applications
[02:40] <almoxarife> mahfrk: save yourself the grief , look here http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/install-red-eclipse-successor-of-blood.html
[02:40] <NictraSavios> how do i use that thingy again...
[02:40] <NictraSavios> !natty
[02:40] <mahfrk> pfifo: now another error '/bin/sh: sdl-config: not found shared/cube.h:50:17: fatal error: SDL.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make: *** [shared/cube.h.gch] Error 1'
[02:40] <almoxarife> mahfrk: a packaged version
[02:40] <NictraSavios> There we go :)
[02:40] <NictraSavios> Cas07: !natty
[02:41] <KM0201> !isitoutyet
[02:41] <pfifo> mahfrk, libsdl1.2-dev
[02:41] <NictraSavios> Its called beta2...
[02:41] <mahfrk> almoxarife: ooh. i don't want to downlaod it again in my slow net connection. anyway thanks for poiting me!
[02:41] <NictraSavios> natty! Cas07
[02:41] <NictraSavios> !natty Cas07
[02:41] <NictraSavios> Damg it.... i suck.
[02:42] <NictraSavios> dang*
[02:42] <Cas07> NictraSavios: k
[02:42] <NictraSavios> Cas07: anyway.... go to that channel
[02:42] <NictraSavios> Cas07: #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <rww> !natty | NictraSavios
[02:42] <rww> like that :)
[02:42] <NictraSavios> rww: Thank you.
[02:43] <NictraSavios> !poo
[02:43] <NictraSavios> .... sorry.... too temping.
[02:43] <multipass> hi, is there a gnu linux imaging application?
[02:43] <NictraSavios> Is there a channel where i can play with that thing? Yea im a freak XD.
[02:43] <NictraSavios> multipass: CloneZilla
[02:43] <pfifo> NictraSavios, pm it
[02:44] <multipass> NictraSavios, thanks ill check er out
[02:44] <Nomadicus> Hello . . . I am trying to install proprietary ATI drivers, but it looks like the installer is not configured to cooperate with the realtime kernel: [ kernel 2.6.33-29-realtime (x86_64)  ].  Here is a paste of the build make log: [ http://pastie.org/1805535 ].  What can I do to configure the driver to install with this kernel?  These are the steps I have been folowing: [ http://drpaneas.com/?p=66 ].
[02:44] <ledd> sup everyone
[02:44] <dd214> What is the recommended anti-virus software for Maverick?
[02:44] <ledd> where  are the program folders locted
[02:44] <NictraSavios> dd214: None
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !virus | dd214
[02:45] <dd214> NictraSavios why?
[02:45] <NictraSavios> dd214: You dont need one bro! This is linux , ubuntu your talkin about. Antivirus is windows only .... as Jordan made ubbottu say.
[02:45] <dd214> I find that hard to believe, passive thinking?
[02:45] <multipass> hmm, does clonezilla.org work for you NictraSavios ?
[02:45] <pfifo> Nomadicus, any reason you compiling over using the one in the repos?
[02:45] <Nomadicus> ledd: /bin/bash
[02:46] <dd214> but Linux servers get hacked just as often as windows..
[02:46] <Nomadicus> pfifo: the repo will not install.
[02:46] <van7hu> hello, when I do assign static ip for eth0 (via /etc/interfaces, I use IPv4), but when I restart network, do ifconfig -a, I just get inet6 addr and  not inet addr, is this normal?
[02:46] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> dd214: No viruses does not mean no vulnerabilities.
[02:46] <dd214> I'm new to LNX, but there is even AV for MAC
[02:46] <NictraSavios> dd214:  We use sudo, so viruses cant do more then clear our your home folder, and even thats hard. Want proof? Go to wikipedia and look up "Windows viruses" and "Linux viruses" Note windows has to be catagorized.... linux all fit in one paragraph.
[02:46] <pfifo> Nomadicus, maybe you should try to fix that problem instead.
[02:47] <skjeggen> hello
[02:47] <dd214> Jordan_U ic..
[02:47] <NictraSavios> dd214: And on top of all that, There 1973487658735638753 diffrent linux, trying to make a virus for em is like trying to make a shirt that all blondes will wear... impossible.
[02:47] <Nomadicus> pfifo; I tried . . . continuing with is like going backwards for me now.
[02:48] <NictraSavios> dd214: take it from a white hat.... Linux is too much a pain to make viruses for. And the people who do... well my hat goes off to em.
[02:48] <pfifo> Nomadicus, you need the kernel-headers and build-essentials to build that package
[02:48] <skjeggen> anyone here who can help me get dual monitors running in seperate xscreens mode on natty narwhale? only twinview is useful atm
[02:48] <mickster04> !virus | dd214
[02:48] <mickster04> !natty | skjeggen
[02:48] <NictraSavios> skjeggen: I can :) I run a tri screen currentl.
[02:48] <NictraSavios> Oh forgot.... yea better go to Ubuntu+1
[02:48] <dd214> Now that I got the AV settled, what about a good backup?  I'm not running RAID, but running a VMWare workstation for my primary Win dev env.. so, I'm covered there, but need something to restore my LNX env if it goes tits up/
[02:48] <skjeggen> i will tnx :)
[02:49] <mickster04> !ohmy | dd214
[02:49] <mahfrk> pfifo: the same error exisys
[02:49] <NictraSavios> dd214: I like deja dup personally.
[02:50] <NictraSavios> dd214: Or when you get really advanced... Look into installing linux mints "mint backup" .... its a pretty decent.. but the Ubuntu support will disown you for using it.
[02:50] <dd214> NictraSavios thx
[02:50] <pfifo> mahfrk, you installed libsdl1.2-dev? if so type make clean, and then make, and patebin as much of the end of the output as you can
[02:50] <Nomadicus> dd214; once you start to understand how Linux works you will realize that there are many fundamental differences that minimize if not eliminate major concerns.
[02:51] <l_r> hello
[02:51] <van7hu> hello
[02:51] <multipass> best of
[02:51] <multipass> ?
[02:51] <l_r> what's a good desktop recorder with ZOOM and stop/start
[02:51] <pfifo> OHAI!
[02:51] <NictraSavios> Well i gotta be off... Classes tommorow... Also gonna try a gentoo install... hmm. anyway, cyahs.
[02:51] <van7hu> is there a channel for networking discussion on freenode?
[02:52] <rww> NictraSavios: if "Ubuntu support will disown you for" doing something, perhaps you shouldn't be suggesting it in an Ubuntu support channel ;P
[02:52] <Nomadicus> pfifo; ok, once I install them, I build the driver package again then try to install correct?
[02:52] <rww> van7hu: ##networking
[02:52] <mahfrk> pfifo: yes. i installed and done make clean. but now the output http://pastebin.com/35uHWDWR
[02:52] <van7hu> thanks rww
[02:52] <pfifo> Nomadicus, you might need a few other packages, installing is alot more complicated
[02:52] <NictraSavios> rww: Oh dont worry, i dont really care who hates me :) I'm alredy banned from #linuxmint because i stole there tools, put em in ubuntu :P... LMAO.
[02:53] <NictraSavios> Anyway, bye.
[02:53] <Nomadicus> l_r: record it now works.
[02:53] <r1za> есть русские?
[02:53] <r1za> можете в ЛС помочь
[02:53] <l_r> Nomadicus, is there anything for the gnome desktop?
[02:54] <l_r> Nomadicus, does recorditnow does zoom by itself or needs compiz?
[02:54] <brightspark> !ru | r1za
[02:55] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[02:55] <van7hu> !vi|van7hu
[02:55] <dd214> Nomadicus roger that, I've been running LNX for years as a firewall, "Smoothwall" or "IPCop", but never as a primary workstation.  Since virtualization, I've been able to make that change.. esp since trying out LNX (Mandrake, RedHat.. desktops when I tried them in since 1995).. but this Maverick is the sweetest thing I've ever seen
[02:55] <r1za> no im ban for russian canale
[02:55] <Nomadicus> pfifo: well . . . I have already been at it a couple of days . . . I might as well keep on trying.  Perhaps someone on #linux could provide some guidance.
[02:55] <DrArkaneX> I let my momma run Ubuntu, it's that good
[02:55] <pfifo> mahfrk, thet isnt the same error :) that one is libsdl-image1.2-dev and i bet you the next one is libsdl-ttf2.0-dev and libsdl-gfx1.2-dev after that so might as well oneliner it ;)
[02:56] <rww> r1za: #ubuntu is English-language only. Being banned from #ubuntu-ru doesn't exempt you from that :(
[02:56] <pfifo> Nomadicus, compiling it is easy, its configuring X to use it that is harder.
[02:56] <oneliner> mhh?
[02:56] <oneliner> oh ok, go on :)
[02:56] <softcoder> hello, install 11.04 64 bit in virtualbox (host is 10.10 64 bit)
[02:56] <mahfrk> pfifo: okay.hehe. please wait for me. i will install those and come back
[02:56] <Fudge> hi, is runlevel N 2 init 2? I tried changing telinit 5 so gdm3 starts but runlevel keeps saying N 2
[02:56] <softcoder> but after install, at startup it hangs
[02:56] <pfifo> oneliner, ohh wow, sorry
[02:57] <oneliner> heh, nevermind, its in the namesake so its ok ;)
[02:57] <softcoder> just sits there after it says checking battery state [OK]
[02:57] <softcoder> (i press esc at load screen to see console)
[02:57] <softcoder> any ideas what i can do?
[02:57] <Nomadicus> l_r: Take a look at this: [  http://recorditnow.sourceforge.net/index.html ].  I have been using it.
[02:57] <pfifo> id hate to be named sudo or apt
[02:58] <Blue1> pfifo: or yum
[02:58] <l_r> Nomadicus, do you have compiz installed?
[02:58] <pfifo> Blue1, id never get highlighted, not in any fedora chans
[02:59] <softcoder> anyone?
[02:59] <stOrmBlast>     /MSG NiCK INFO stOrmBlast
[02:59] <chubb16> just switched over to xubuntu-desktop, cleaned out the ubuntu packages and reinstalling what i use now...
[02:59] <Nomadicus> DrArkaneX: I put my mammy on Ubuntu also.  She loves it.  It is great to get the folks involved!
[02:59] <softcoder> my primary reason to get 11.04 is that I'm an author for the open source RTS megaglest
[02:59] <softcoder> and I just want to esnure it works ok on there
[03:00] <rww> softcoder: /join #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support
[03:00] <softcoder> ok
[03:00] <Nomadicus> pfifo: no doubt . . .  X is a MUGG!
[03:00] <itilious> are there any remot desktop options that are much more friendly for a "non-heavy" 3d computer?
[03:00] <itilious> my laptop can't keep up with the vnc connection and it used to not be this way with previous versions of ubuntu 10.10
[03:00] <townes> I hooked my usb up to my comp; I've used it for quite a while but yesterday it decided to be read only...anyway, I typed in some commands to make read and write...it would for about 5 seconds allow me to do something then go back to read only...any ideas?
[03:01] <Aftermath> do i need anything installed to do smb://192.168.1.115/Download in terminal/
[03:01] <pfifo> itilious, ssh is perfect for that
[03:01] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to disable the 'pretty' boot logo?
[03:01] <Nomadicus>  l_r: Yeah, RecordItNow is able to capture all the compiz effects.
[03:01] <quentusrex> I want to watch as each service is started.
[03:01] <Ben64> Aftermath: i don't think smb://* would ever do anything in terminal
[03:01] <quentusrex> and when a disk check is done, I actually want to see the statistics.
[03:01] <pfifo> quentusrex, remove 'splash' from the kernel line
[03:01] <townes> pardon me, I meant to type *psp. I'm not sure if it's psp specific or what (any other time a usb device was read only I could change it and it didn't switch back within 5 secs)
[03:01] <quentusrex> thanks pfifo
[03:01] <Khisanth> itilious: are you connecting to or from the laptop?
[03:01] <mahfrk> pfifo: now http://pastebin.com/C0JxvtG0
[03:02] <Nomadicus> softcoder: What was your inquisition?
[03:02] <Aftermath> Im doing it in a run dialogue sorry ben64
[03:02] <l_r> Nomadicus, i meant to ask: does the zoom feature require compiz to work with recorditnow?
[03:02] <Aftermath> http://lifehacker.com/#!288033/mount-a-windows-shared-folder-in-linux
[03:02] <Aftermath> is what i am trying
[03:02] <itilious> Khisanth, yes
[03:02] <pfifo> mahfrk, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[03:03] <itilious> the laptop has onboard video and can't keep up with remote desktop use
[03:03] <Ben64> Aftermath: thats from 2007
[03:03] <Ben64> Aftermath: you could just go to Places -> Network
[03:03] <Aftermath> i know but i assumed it still worked
[03:03] <Nomadicus>  l_r: I don't know, it does work though.
[03:03] <Aftermath> Im on xfce, not gnome
[03:04] <Aftermath> i guess ill switch back to gnome
[03:05] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[03:05] <itilious> i just install x11 and it seems to run smoother tho
[03:05] <Khisanth> usually you already have x11 if you are using vnc ...
[03:06] <itilious> Khisanth, does x11 come with 10.10?
[03:06] <itilious> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565&highlight=remote+desktop
[03:06] <itilious> thats where i got the guide from to do this
[03:07] <Jordan_U> itilious: Don't use "x11" as a shorthand for "x11vnc". They are very different things.
[03:07] <RealOp> should my swap partition be a logical or extended partition ??????
[03:07] <yeqiang> what's this?
[03:07] <itilious> my mistake
[03:07] <townes> my usb device insists on being read only no matter how many times I try changing it. for a few seconds it will revert or at least appear to revert back to read and write, but then it becomes read only again. I tested it out on a windows machine; it works like it has always worked... anyone else exp this prob before?
[03:07] <quentusrex> pfifo, where is that kernel line? it isn't in /boot/grub/menu.lst any more.
[03:08] <rww> quentusrex: /etc/default/grub
[03:08] <rww> quentusrex: run sudo update-grub when you're done editing it
[03:08] <Jordan_U> RealOp: It can be either logical or primary.
[03:08] <yeqiang> how many
[03:08] <pfifo> quentusrex, in grub2 its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:08] <itilious> is it possible to have x11vnc server run a script upon user connection?
[03:08] <metroid1> can usb-creator use dvd iso's or only cd's?
[03:08] <RealOp> Jordan_U, I understand that but
[03:08] <rww> pfifo: changes to /boot/grub/grub.cfg are overwritten on kernel upgrade or other invocations of update-grub
[03:08] <RealOp> Jordan_U, the default setup is via 'extended' part.
[03:09] <RealOp> Jordan_U, honestly whats the diff when using a extended partitions?
[03:09] <townes> =/
[03:09] <rww> RealOp: an extended partition is a container for one or more logical partitions.
[03:09] <yeqiang> ?
[03:09] <yeqiang> ?
[03:09] <rww> yeqiang: #ubuntu is the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[03:09] <RealOp> rww,  ah ok ty
[03:09] <pfifo> rww, yeah i know, but I always just change it there, never had any problems as it gets formatted on reinstall anyway.
[03:10] <yeqiang> 没人用中文？
[03:10] <quentusrex> rww, I don't see splash in that file. I'm trying to get back to the verbose boot up.
[03:10] <rww> yeqiang: specifically, it's the English-language technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[03:10] <Jordan_U> !cn | yeqiang
[03:10] <yeqiang> ok
[03:10] <rww> quentusrex: It's on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line for me.
[03:11] <ghostrabbit> can any one help me  whis hardy
[03:11] <mahfrk> pfifo: now http://pastebin.com/vzdex0GK anything wrong? waht to do next?
[03:11] <ghostrabbit> i have 2 qwests
[03:13] <Jordan_U> pfifo: When helping others please don't recommend editing the grub.cfg directly as most users want their changes to be persistant and are using update-grub to keep their grub.cfg up to date (the default in Ubuntu) rather than writing it manually.
[03:13] <pfifo> mahfrk, type one final make and then `echo $?` if it spits out "0" then your ready to play. you can just run it from that folder unless you want to install it.
[03:13] <pfifo> Jordan_U, ok
[03:14] <ghostrabbit> nabbend erst mal
[03:15] <mahfrk> pfifo: echo $ outputs '$'
[03:15] <hiexpo> hello all i embeded a terminal on my desktop using compiz so where would the bash history be stroed for it ?
[03:15] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[03:15] <itilious> is it possible to have a vnc viewer have less display resources sent over connection?
[03:15] <pfifo> mahfrk, `echo $?` you have to do it directly after make, it will tell you what error code make exited with, 0 is no error
[03:16] <townes> k... was trying to run the commands again to see if it actually goes back to read and write. I'm assuming this is an error. "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/psp': Read-only file systemchmod: changing permissions of `/media/psp': Read-only file system"
[03:16] <townes> oops, didn't mean to paste that twice
[03:16] <Khisanth> itilious: it could be made to require less bandwidth
[03:16] <mahfrk> pfifo: yes. it is returning zero. now how to run the application? is it installed now?
[03:16] <Khisanth> itilious: it depends on what you are willing to give up :)
[03:16] <townes> anyway, apart from formatting it (that seems to be a really popular answer on forums) what could be done to set this device back to read and write?
[03:17] <pfifo> mahfrk, its not installed, but if you only have it for personal use you dont have to install it, you can just run it from there
[03:18] <Nomadicus> pfifo: for some reason I don't seem to be able to find kernel-headers for  kernel 2.6.33-29-realtime (x86_64) or build-essentials, perhaps I should just take a break and come back to this in a while.
[03:18] <townes> I'm pulling my hair looking at the ubuntu forums. I can't find a single thread describing this issue that actually has a fix
[03:19] <pfifo> Nomadicus, sounds like you need a apt-get update, maybe its called linux-headers
[03:19] <Nomadicus> We can lose our minds together . . . right now . . . right here!
[03:19] <townes> =p
[03:19] <townes> getting there mate
[03:19] <rww> Nomadicus: it's called build-essential
[03:20] <mahfrk> pfifo: thanks a lot man for all the help. now one doubt. how do you know all the dependencies to install?
[03:20] <pfifo> mahfrk, im a programmer
[03:20] <mahfrk> pfifo: okay. how can i identify it from the make output?
[03:21] <utunbu> hi
[03:21] <townes> no one ?
[03:21] <pfifo> mahfrk, the output will say your missing whatever.h and you find out what package whatever.h comes in
[03:21] <utunbu> i installed windows 7 for an app that i cant get WINE to start, when i did i thought they would have a bootloader that can load a previous install of 10.10
[03:21] <utunbu> how do i get back to my ubuntu?
[03:22] <Nomadicus> It appears as though build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:22] <hydrox24> what's the easiest way to monitor each cores temperature on a dual-core intel machine with conky?
[03:22] <mahfrk> pfifo: how to find that specific package name for each .h file?
[03:22] <plight> Can somoene tell me where the config files for the new IR stack in maverick are located?  Only the enter and back buttons are working on my remote.
[03:22] <mahfrk> pfifo: is there any manual available for learning these things?
[03:22] <aeon-ltd> utunbu: reinstall grub
[03:22] <aeon-ltd> !fixgrub | utunbu
[03:23] <apocaliptica61> hello i have install ubunto via virtual box
[03:23] <pfifo> mahfrk, normally they make a ./configure script that takes care of that kind of stuff, the developers of this game are just lazy
[03:23] <apocaliptica61> and i cant use my wirless card
[03:23] <Yutram> Lo
[03:23] <apocaliptica61> some can help?
[03:23] <hydrox24> what's the easiest way to monitor each cores temperature on a dual-core intel machine with conky?
[03:23] <townes> brb
[03:23] <hiexpo> !conky
[03:23] <pfifo> mahfrk, i usually resort to googleing whatever.h but after 5 years, they are all memorized
[03:24] <Nomadicus> pfifo: where can  kernel-headers be found?
[03:24] <pfifo> Nomadicus, apt-cache search headers
[03:24] <apocaliptica61> somene know why i can use my wireless cars in ubunto via virtuelbox??
[03:24] <rahul_> can autocad run on ubuntu wine s/w???
[03:24] <Nomadicus> Interesting?
[03:25] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, you could do it via vmware as well bbut you would have to do alot of configuring of your network by hand
[03:25] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[03:26] <Jordan_U> mahfrk: You almost never need to install something from source: http://www.playdeb.net/software/Red%20Eclipse
[03:26] <apocaliptica61> i was on vmware and someone told me that i need to do it under virtuelbox
[03:26] <JoeRitchie> it doesnt matter
[03:26] <JoeRitchie> windows 7 is better anyways
[03:26] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, its alot easier todo it like that since its all donw for you automatically
[03:26] <hydrox24> brightspark: probably you can just delete them from System>preferences>keyboard and then under "layouts"
[03:27] <plight> Is there an IRW equivilent in Maverick's integrated IR module?
[03:27] <apocaliptica61> you mean via virtualbox?
[03:27] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, thats right
[03:27] <JoeRitchie> hello guys
[03:27] <apocaliptica61> i am on virtual box but both card are wired
[03:27] <apocaliptica61> even my wirless
[03:27] <JoeRitchie> i have a question
[03:28] <Jordan_U> JoeRitchie: Just ask it :)
[03:28] <apocaliptica61> it apear like word
[03:28] <apocaliptica61> wird
[03:28] <brightspark> hydrox24,  not for my session but the little menu below the password field at login.
[03:28] <JoeRitchie> whoa
[03:28] <JoeRitchie> why did the line adressed to me just appear in orange
[03:28] <JoeRitchie> ?
[03:28] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, thats right, vbox is VIRTUAL hardware
[03:29] <Jordan_U> apocaliptica61: Virtual machines use virtual hardware. The cards that you see within a guest running virtualbox are not real physical hardware.
[03:29] <cxo> JoeRitchie, Intense. Isn't it.
[03:29] <apocaliptica61> so what i need to do to see it like wireless card
[03:29] <apocaliptica61> i need to use it for aircrakc-ng
[03:29] <JoeRitchie> just trolling
[03:29] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, it cant do that
[03:29] <JoeRitchie> anyways
[03:30] <JoeRitchie> know any good channel for this?
[03:30] <van7hu> hello
[03:30]  * cxo trawls for trolls
[03:30] <apocaliptica61> so i need to install ubunto on hard drive no?
[03:30] <apocaliptica61> no via virtual machin
[03:30] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | JoeRitchie
[03:30] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, if all you want todo is run airocrack, you can get the airocrack livecd
[03:30] <JoeRitchie> k am out
[03:30] <JoeRitchie> bye
[03:31] <apocaliptica61> really i dont understand what you want to say
[03:32] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, if your intention is to install ubuntu and use it for airocrack, then you need to install ubuntu. if you dont want to install ubuntu, you can just run airocrack on a CD
[03:32] <townes> back. I'm still not having any luck making my usb device go back to read/write. any help?
[03:33] <Shubuntu> hello guys, can anyone help me fix a gateway problem with ubuntu 10.10 please? i've installed pptp using this guide and i cannot seem to be able to add the gateway for the private ip: >	http://eran.sandler.co.il/2010/08/30/pptp-vpn-on-ubuntu-10-04-for-your-iphone-ipad/
[03:33] <Stef> Question: (ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[03:33] <Stef> I've set up OpenSSH and putty which connects fine
[03:34] <rahul_> can i gjve shortcut key for specific file (e.g open office file)???
[03:34] <Stef> but I can't su anymore as i used to when using user/login
[03:34] <townes> the device worked fine a few days ago; it still works fine under windows. however, in ubuntu it refuses to revert back to read/write
[03:34] <toneshifter> sup all
[03:34] <Stef> can I change that setting for OpenSSH key authenticication?
[03:35] <pfifo> apocaliptica61, check here, this will explain it http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=slitaz
[03:35] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Stef: How are you trying to use su? Remember that for running commands as root you should use 'sudo' as Ubuntu has no root password. Using 'su foo' for switching to some other user 'foo' should work fine though.
[03:35] <townes> I've been through the forums and have been trying every alleged solution I come across, but still nothing. <- frustrated
[03:36] <cxo> even sudo -i
[03:36] <Stef> with my actual config I can login as user ABC and then su to root
[03:36] <Jordan_U> townes: What filesystem? What error do you get when you try to mount it?
[03:36] <Stef> when I use OpenSSH with keys, I can't su...simply ignored
[03:37] <toneshifter> doesn anyone have an idea how to fix grub that doesn't see NTFS partition (fdisk does) grub-update just finds ext and last fat32 (that i told him to mount during instalation)
[03:37] <Jordan_U> Stef: It's normal for su to root to only work from a physical tty. As having a root password set is not supported here though. Why can't you use sudo?
[03:38] <toneshifter> fdisk -l finds them all
[03:38] <Jordan_U> !details | toneshifter
[03:38] <cxo> well there is probably not boot record on the ntfs partition, thats why
[03:39] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: Specifically, you need to be more spcific about what you mean by "doesn't see".
[03:39] <townes> Jordan_U, I believe my device uses fat or fat32, off the top of my head I don't know. I don't get any errors at all when mounting it
[03:39] <utunbu> !grub
[03:39] <Shubuntu> >	hello guys, can anyone help me fix a gateway problem with ubuntu 10.10 please? i've installed pptp using this guide and i cannot seem to be able to add the gateway for the private ip: > http://eran.sandler.co.il/2010/08/30/pptp-vpn-on-ubuntu-10-04-for-your-iphone-ipad/
[03:40] <toneshifter> ubottu: Problem: grub do not show /dev/sda1 on the list, running on lubuntu 10.10, tried right after installation and than after updates and grub-update, on the output i get only the message that he found linux, recovery mode & memtest
[03:40] <toneshifter> Jordan_U don't see means i see the partition at fdisk -l
[03:40] <Jordan_U> townes: Can you check what filesystem it is and try mounting it manually from the terminal and pastebin the output?
[03:40] <townes> yeah, I'll get back to you in a min. need to step outside, but I'll be right back
[03:41] <toneshifter> i just assumed that during installation of lubuntu it will automatically set correct grub.conf
[03:41] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: What OS is in /dev/sda1? What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[03:41] <toneshifter> i mean it mounts it without problems but it doesnot show it at grub menu
[03:42] <toneshifter> Jordan_U /dev/sda1 = windows
[03:42] <pfifo> Shubuntu, whaat is the exact problem?
[03:42] <utunbu> when i boot into grub, there are 9 or 10 instances of Ubuntu
[03:42] <utunbu> how do i fix that?
[03:43] <Shubuntu> pfifo: when i create that private static ip and add the gateway as my eth0's gateway, everything goes wrong, i lose internet and i keep locking errors.
[03:43] <zee313> I hav a problem. with my 16GB Kingston Data Traveler. I used it as a bootable using uNetbootin . Now after format my flash  is showing 2 GB Capacity instead of 16 GB???????????????????
[03:43] <toneshifter> utunbu = just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually
[03:44] <edbian> Shubuntu: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?  (is that what you're editing?)
[03:44] <toneshifter> Jordan_U cant check os-prober i worked on this laptop remotely
[03:44] <pfifo> Shubuntu, can you pastebin these errors?
[03:44] <edbian> zee313: You probably just created a 2Gb partition.  You can only store stuff in a partition.  Open gparted and look at it
[03:44] <taglass> zee313:  reparition the usb key with Disk Utility
[03:44] <toneshifter> just trying to set a plan for tommorow what to do at all
[03:45] <Shubuntu> edbian: yes, i'm editing /etc/network/interfaces and it's as simple as i described, in ubuntu 10.04 it was working just fine
[03:45] <Shubuntu> so i'm guessing it's a 10.10 issue
[03:45] <edbian> utunbu: there is a package for each kernel in synaptic.  Remove the ones you don't want.  Do NOT remove them all
[03:46] <edbian> Shubuntu: what errors are you getting?
[03:46] <toneshifter> any ideas ?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: If Windows isn't listed at boot, it means it wasn't detected by os-prober. If it wasn't detected by os-prober then that almost always means that you don't actually have a bootable Windows install. os-prober searches for files that are needed for Windows to boot, if they are missing then Windows can't boot no matter what you do with grub.
[03:46] <Shubuntu> pfifo: lockfile creation failed: exceeded maximum number of lock attempts
[03:47] <Shubuntu> edbian: as i explained i will lose all internet connection when i set the privateip's gateway to be eth0's gateway
[03:47] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: The other possibility is that your Windows partition couldn't be mounted properly for some reason (so os-prober couldn't check for the aforementioned files).
[03:47] <edbian> Shubuntu: I'm not sure what is causing the problem
[03:47] <pfifo> Shubuntu, make sure the lock file is writeable? Can you give me more of the output upto that point that really isnt what im looking for
[03:47] <LinuxHack3r> Guest10049: Welcome to Ubuntu!
[03:47] <townes> Jordan_U: okay. it's fat32. when I manually mount it, it doesn't give any ouput
[03:47] <toneshifter> Jordan_U i had an bootable windows install, during installation i did nothing to partition that windows was at, just set partitions for lubuntu at the other partition
[03:47] <Guest10049> ^xthecynic
[03:47] <Shubuntu> pfifo:  no other output
[03:48] <Shubuntu> and guys this is a problem of 10.10
[03:48] <Shubuntu> not 10.04
[03:48] <pfifo> Shubuntu, what command did you run to generate that output?
[03:48] <Shubuntu> i haven't even changed one setting
[03:48] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: Did you delete any partitions recently?
[03:48] <Shubuntu> just upgraded to 10.10
[03:48] <Shubuntu> pfifo: just trying to edit anything
[03:49] <Shubuntu> nano whatever
[03:49] <pfifo> Shubuntu, only in nano?
[03:49] <toneshifter> i did delete second partition (not the one that windows was on) and created a new ones by using that space
[03:49] <LinuxHack3r> thecynic: here I am
[03:49] <thecynic> LinuxHack3r: oh ok
[03:49] <toneshifter> but once again i didnt even touch the partition that windows was on
[03:49] <Shubuntu> root@ark:~# nano /etc/pptpd.conf  gave me: root@ark:~# lockfile creation failed: exceeded maximum number of lock attempts
[03:49] <zaery> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3154546 I did ssh -X [my server] and then "firefox -no-remote" and it just complains that I didn't specify a display
[03:50] <edbian> Shubuntu: You already have that file open with another process
[03:50] <toneshifter> its still listed at fdisk -l (and it even have boot) flag
[03:50] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: Was that second partition a small ( 1 GiB or less ) partition labeled "system"?
[03:50] <zaery> How do i get firefox to run on my display, but run on my server?
[03:50] <buttholesurfer> great
[03:50] <Shubuntu> edbian: that only and only and only happens when i do the gateway thing
[03:50] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: Having the boot flag doesn't mean it's bootable.
[03:50] <edbian> zaery: The machine you are on is the client.  The machine firefox is on is the server.  Does the client have a GUI installed?
[03:50] <LinuxHack3r> thecynic: In terminal, you can always use tab to complete things. Once you get the mindset, you can copy, delete, move, install things, etc etc faster in terminal (especially when using tab to autocomplete) faster than you can navigate various GUI's.
[03:50] <Shubuntu> and i lose all internet connection
[03:50] <Shubuntu> i cannot ping anything
[03:50] <zaery> edbian: yup
[03:51] <thecynic> LinuxHack3r: whatever yous ay
[03:51] <edbian> zaery: did you ssh with a capitol X  ?
[03:51] <toneshifter> Jordan_U nope that was a full 30 GB partition, the one with 1GB or less (recovery) still exist to,
[03:51] <edbian> zaery: ssh -X you@computer  ?
[03:51] <zaery> edbian: IIRC, yes, but lemme check
[03:51] <Nomadicus> pfifo: It is still not installing, even after making sure that the  kernel-headers and build-essentials are installed.  I am going to try contacting the maintainers of the realtime kernel.  I am using Lucid now because the same problem plus other driver issues happened with Mavrick using
[03:51] <Nomadicus> . . . Nvidia drivers.
[03:51] <LinuxHack3r> thecynic: Generally everyone here is pretty friendly, if you have any questions they'll be happy to answer
[03:51] <zaery> edbian, yup, "ssh -X zaery@zaery.net"
[03:51] <pfifo> Shubuntu, ok lets back up, you can run a command or script to create this error condition, that is the script I want to see.
[03:52] <thecynic> LinuxHack3r: aight
[03:52] <edbian> zaery: can you run xclock?  (it's a graphical clock app)
[03:52] <Shubuntu> pfifo: let's forget about the lock ok?
[03:52] <Shubuntu> you're missing the point
[03:52] <Shubuntu> this is a networking problem
[03:52] <Shubuntu> it's a routing problem
[03:52] <Shubuntu> it's the stupid 10.10
[03:52] <zaery> edbian: "Error: Can't open display: "
[03:52] <Shubuntu> i swear i haven't changed a thing in the settings
[03:53] <townes> as a side note, running gksudo nautilus doesn't allow me to write to the usb device either, nor do changing the permissions seem to help any
[03:53] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: So first I would try mounting the partition to see if you get any errors. If mount complains that it was not cleanly unmounted then you need to either run chkdsk from a windows install CD or add an entry to boot Windows manually to the end of /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run chkdsk from your windows system (then boot Ubuntu again and "sudo update-grub" should add a Windows entry automatically and you can remove your manual one).
[03:53] <edbian> zaery: look on the server in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:53] <edbian> zaery: There is a property 'X11Forwarding'  is it set to yes or no?
[03:53] <pfifo> Shubuntu, i think you should maybe take a break, come back later. You seem to be a bit upset by this.
[03:53] <zaery> edbian: I just realised, my server is 10.04 and my client is 10.10, would that be a problem?
[03:53] <edbian> zaery: You can check the file using nano and ssh
[03:53] <edbian> zaery: That shouldn't matter
[03:53] <natalie_> This room doesn't involve Natty yet, does it?
[03:54] <edbian> natalie_: not until the 28th
[03:54] <toneshifter> tried it already, it mounts perfectly, ok will try it :) thanks for support
[03:54] <pentester123> GRE: bad checksum from pppd?????
[03:54] <edbian> zaery: I x forward every day.  I've very confident we can get this working
[03:54] <natalie_> Would anyone know where to go for issues regarding Natty? IRC specifically.
[03:54] <edbian> natalie_: #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <Shubuntu> pfifo: i've been dealing with this for the past 36 hours
[03:54] <natalie_> Awesome, thanks!
[03:55] <edbian> natalie_: no problem
[03:55] <zaery> edbian: X11Forwarding is on
[03:55] <townes> Shubuntu, you should get some sleep mate
[03:55] <Shubuntu> yes i'm upset cause there isn't an oz of help on google, 10,10 has been out for ages yet they don't have one decent explanation of how they changed this
[03:55] <Jordan_U> toneshifter: If there is no problem mounting the partition, and "sudo os-prober" still doesn't list windows, then run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 to help figure out what files are missing and ask in ##windows about how to restore them.
[03:55] <KXTwo> Hey I have a scripting question outputting error if anyone is willing to help
[03:56] <edbian> zaery: If I ssh into my own machine without the -X flag I get 'Error: Can't open display:'  That is the error you're getting right?
[03:56] <toneshifter> roger that :]
[03:57] <toneshifter> one more time thank you for support
[03:57] <edbian> zaery: Can you copy/paste the command you're running on the client?  (you can omit / mask hostname if you want)
[03:57] <toneshifter> will report tommorow
[03:57] <zee313> edbian: and taglass: i am thankful to you both. I have solved my problem using gparted
[03:57] <edbian> zee313: awesome
[03:57] <Portocent> hello i'm new on ubuntu, some body talk spanish
[03:57] <zaery> edbian: xclock says can't open display, but firefox says no display specified, I'm using "ssh -X zaery@zaery.net"
[03:58] <Stef> I have a user ABC which can SSH into ubuntu 10.04 lts with username/login and then change the session to root by using su.
[03:58] <Stef>  
[03:58] <Stef> Now I established an OpenSSH connection with key authenticication and I can't use su anymore to switch over to root session. Is that a config of OpenSSH? I don't want the user ABC to have sudo rights.
[03:58] <FloodBot2> Stef: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <KXTwo> if I put: let ag='ls -d [a-g]* | wc -l' into my script, it works great, but when there are no files begging within the field a-g I get the error message, which id rather not have displayed, I thought 2>> /bin/null would make it go away but its not working
[03:59] <seaoftea> any here dual boot ubuntu and another linux flavor with grub2? I'm dual booting ubuntu 10.10 and fedora 15 but I have to into ubuntu and run grub-mkconfig to get it to recognize new fedora kernels
[03:59] <seaoftea> also the fedora splash screen doesn't show up nor does it properly label fedora kernels
[03:59] <edbian> zaery: hang on
[04:00] <townes> Jordan_U, the heart of it is that the device, for whatever reason, won't allow me to change to read and write.
[04:00] <taglass> seaoftea: I do.  I install each distro's grub to the distros partition to avoid that problem.  It does however make you go through 2 grub menus to boot.
[04:00] <MaRk-I> seaoftea: ubuntu uses grub2 and fedora grub afaik... maybe is better if you chainload fedoras grub instead of adding the stanzas directly into grub2
[04:01] <quuxman> still hacking at this problem. I would just reinstall but I can't figure out how to get ubuntu on to a USB drive (don't have a CD drive)
[04:01] <raido> zaery: You do have a window manager on the client machine too right? You have to have that because the client is still the X "server"
[04:01] <quuxman> laptop won't boot entirely. It fails with: mounted-dev: main process (324) exited with status 1
[04:01] <seaoftea> that's what the fedora ppl's say
[04:01] <quuxman> or something like that
[04:01] <seaoftea> meh
[04:01] <KXTwo> quuxman, just download the live cd and use the usb installer
[04:01] <zaery> raido: yup, i'm in xchat on the client right now :)
[04:01] <edbian> zaery: try running shh -v -X user@host  (so it gives errors and it will say stuff about x forwarding)
[04:02] <Starminn> How do you listen to radio stations? For instance, in Banshee, how do I obtain the stream URL to play it in Banshee?
[04:02] <KXTwo> if I put: let ag='ls -d [a-g]* | wc -l' into my script, it works great, but when there are no files begging within the field a-g I get the error message, which id rather not have displayed, I thought 2>> /bin/null would make it go away but its not working
[04:02] <Jordan_U> townes: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/; sudo touch /mnt/test; dmesg"? (obviously replacing 'XY' and unmounting the partition first)
[04:02] <pfifo> townes, just as a thought there isnt like a write protection switch on the device?
[04:03] <townes> pfifo, that was what i was hoping for...alas..not the case
[04:03] <townes> Jordan_U, one moment
[04:03] <quuxman> KXTwo: on the other hand, if I knew what package was broken, I could simply reinstall/reconfigure it. I can chroot in to the system
[04:04] <Sadin56> im having problems with installing Ubuntu 10.10 im at the screen where it asks who are you, entering my name username and desired password and what not, after entering all the information it asked me the forward button stays unclickable can anyone help me resolve this and finish the installation?
[04:04] <seaoftea> I'm gonna make them work together IDK why ubuntu and fedora can't be friends
[04:04] <rww> Sadin56: make the username lower-case
[04:04] <KXTwo> quuxman,  I dont think I could help you there except to booting to an old install, I know ubuntu keeps the previous 3 or so at least on my laptop.
[04:04] <quuxman> KXTwo: none of them work
[04:05] <Jordan_U> Sadin56: Your username needs to be all lowercase.
[04:05] <edbian> Sadin56: use all lowercase username
[04:05] <edbian> Maybe we should tell him some more!  haah
[04:05] <KXTwo> quuxman, id boot from usb then and see if you can fix, or really just do a fresh install to be honest
[04:05] <Sadin56> :D thanks lol i completely forgot LOL
[04:06] <KXTwo> seriously no help with my script! I always have the most problems getting help in here lol
[04:06] <zaery> edbian: "/usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/zaery/.Xauthority" could that be the problem
[04:07] <mickster04> KXTwo: isn't there a bash channel about?
[04:07] <edbian> zaery: possibly.  Where did that come from?  The client or the remote machine?
[04:07] <raido> zaery: did you leave a running x session on the server machine under your username?
[04:07] <edbian> zaery: Did you!
[04:07] <edbian> ?!?
[04:08] <KXTwo> mickster04,  thank you I didnt know about that!
[04:08] <KXTwo> it seems kind of dead in there though
[04:08] <zaery> edbian, raido, actually, i might've
[04:08] <zaery> well, that'd explain it.....
[04:08] <MaRk-I> seaoftea: you can make it work if you add the correct uuids for the kernels the problem is when you update fedora your grub2 won't change and have to do basically 2 grub updates
[04:08] <edbian> zaery: yes it would... hahaha
[04:09] <raido> zaery: not necessarily, cause I can do that and it works for me, but if you can, try rebooting the server machine so you wont have a x session running and try again
[04:09] <jtannenbaum> I have been getting stuff like this on my laptop: http://i.imgur.com/hyjY9.png
[04:10] <zaery> now, If i did leave a x session running, I would have a virtual machine running on that, would "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" stop x, and not the virtual machine?
[04:10] <edbian> jtannenbaum: bug
[04:10] <edbian> jtannenbaum: nice background
[04:10] <jtannenbaum> honestly something sees really screwed up with the graphic manager
[04:10] <jtannenbaum> thanks
[04:10] <jtannenbaum> if you help me fix my graphics in general I'll link you
[04:10] <hiexpo> i got a read only file trapeed in here and can't get rid of it  /root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys
[04:10] <Jordan_U> KXTwo: Try asking in #bash, but before asking anything there check the guide and FAQ in the #bash channel topic. Also be sure to state up front that you're working on homework (as you have here).
[04:11] <raido> zaery: is the VM running in a virtual term on your user account?
[04:11] <townes> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/GetmiDxk (not a rocket scientist  but that doesn't look good)
[04:11] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: What is the output of "lsattr /root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys"?
[04:11] <edbian> jtannenbaum: You'll link me?  I don't need links.  I'm up to my ears in links over here.
[04:12] <zaery> raido: it's running in virtualbox
[04:12] <raido> zaery: did you start the vm from your X session
[04:12] <zaery> raido, on the server, yes
[04:12] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, ----i------------e- /root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys
[04:13] <edbian> Jordan_U: again with that crazy thing!
[04:13] <rww> Jordan_U saves the day.
[04:13] <jrib> edbian: heh...
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> I'll direct connect to you and send it to you if you want
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> I'll hand-deliver it on any electronic meidum
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> medium
[04:13] <raido> zaery: then you will lose it. FYI, I run virtual box VM's from the command line as another user to avoid these issues
[04:13] <van7hu> !man|tasksel
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> if you can fix this and the surrounding issues xD
[04:13] <edbian> jtannenbaum: You'll send what to me?
[04:13] <van7hu> !man tasksel
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> the background!
[04:13] <pfifo> townes, unmount run dosfsck on the filesystems
[04:14] <rww> hiexpo: chattr -i /root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum: hahaha.  I have a screenshot of it already!  Turn compiz off and the bugs will go away :)
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum: Or use an older version of Ubuntu
[04:14] <zaery> raido: yeah, i was going to get that set up, but then i found out the hard way that some of my ports are blocked, so I can't ssh into my virtual machine right now
[04:14] <rww> hiexpo: erm, with sudo in front of it
[04:15] <natalie_> My windows stutter when I move them with compiz enabled. Can anyone assist with this problem?
[04:15] <hiexpo> rww, still there
[04:15] <raido> zaery: if its not working on anything, its ok to kill it
[04:15] <rww> hiexpo: tried deleting it again?
[04:15] <hiexpo> let me see
[04:16] <KXTwo> Jordan_U, Ive gotten it taken care of and thank you.  Yes it is homework but it is above and beyond what was required AND my teacher has no issues with getting help in any way shape or form so I typically dont mention that it is hw or people think im trying to get them to do work for me
[04:16] <hiexpo> rww, thanks
[04:16] <rww> KXTwo: You are trying to get them to do work for you :|
[04:16] <townes> pfifo, okay... I'll be back once that's done
[04:17] <townes> pfifo, would I just dosfsck /dev/sdXY ?
[04:17] <pfifo> townes, yes, makes certian its not mounted
[04:18] <townes> alright. appreciate it. be back when I'm back mate
[04:18] <pfifo> ok
[04:19] <mizan_> #twilio
[04:19] <Nephlim> evening
[04:19] <natalie_> anyone available to help with a compiz/nvidia issue?
[04:21] <edbian> natalie_: Ubuntu uses new software.  Because of that some things are buggy.  The only way to get ride of these bugs is to update to the newest version of Ubuntu when it comes out (and trade for new bugs) or use an older version (or different distro that uses older software) to have less bugs period.
[04:21] <hiexpo> rww, so what was the i flag with chattr
[04:21] <stimoceiver> so... im playing with ubuntu desktop linux after messing with fedora on and off for a while, nice distro, i have an nvidia video card and i notice that the various available video players all seem to use different methods to put full motion video on the screen
[04:21] <edbian> natalie_: Actually fixing the bug you're seeing probably takes experienced system programming skill
[04:21] <stimoceiver> also, i understand the difference betwen vdpau and vaapi...
[04:21] <stimoceiver> and what i notice is
[04:21] <rww> hiexpo: the immutable extended attribute. "immutable" means "not changing"
[04:22] <townes> eek. pfifo, I'm getting 'fat32, lfn open: no such file or dir'
[04:22] <hiexpo> rww, oh ok
[04:22] <natalie_> edbian: That's understandable. It's not a make or break thing, just a small bug. It probably only affects my machine in the end. I'll try a new video card in there later and see if it helps. Thanks for your answers. :)
[04:22] <fizyplankton> if i have 10.04 and i go to update manager and update to 10.10 and i decide i dont like it, can i downgrade back to 10.04 easily?
[04:23] <stimoceiver> the only setting that really works in full screen mode that displays full motion video with any fidelity, is mplayer using "xv (1 - NV05 Video Blitter)"
[04:23] <edbian> natalie_: Having said that.  You can try different compiz settings (try to figure out which plugin is causing the bug) and different nvidia drivers
[04:23] <Ben64> fizyplankton: i doubt it
[04:23] <stimoceiver>  /s/mplayer/smplayer
[04:23] <oscargot> Is there any way to change the resolution of the command line terminals when you press ctrl+alt+F1?
[04:23] <fizyplankton> if necessary, i have enuf harddrive space unpartitioned to make a backup of my partition
[04:23] <pfifo> townes, perhaps try using your windoows disk checking tool, im not really sure how but you seem to know your way around it.
[04:23] <Ben64> fizyplankton: well if you back up everything then yeah
[04:23] <fizyplankton> awesome
[04:23] <mickster04> oscargot: not without changing buffer settings and rebooting
[04:24] <mickster04> try !tty
[04:24] <mickster04> !ttyl
[04:24] <mickster04> !tty
[04:24] <stimoceiver> and im trying to understand, what mode is 'xv 1 - NV05 Video Blitter" - does xv mean vaapi ?
[04:24] <mickster04> tada
[04:24] <oscargot> mickster04, thanks >: D
[04:24] <Explodinpiglets> helloe
[04:25] <Explodinpiglets> how come xkill doesn't work?
[04:25] <Explodinpiglets> It has been 5 minutes since I xkilled my fireo
[04:25] <Explodinpiglets> it still hasn't closed
[04:25] <stimoceiver> i've also disabled frame dropping... videos look soooooooo much smoother in this mode whether fullscreen or windowed. every last other mode, fullscreen is flickery, choppy, or worse, and ultimately displeasing to the eye for watching a full length movie
[04:26] <edbian> stimoceiver: How do you disable frame dropping?
[04:26] <DaPenguin> Explodinpiglets: try ps aux | grep <appname>, then kill the pid
[04:26] <pfifo> stimoceiver, sounds like mplayer
[04:26] <Explodinpiglets> I have a revolutionary idea that you guys OBVIOUSLY haven't thought of before.
[04:26] <townes> pfifo, okay. I appreciate your help. take care
[04:26] <stimoceiver> edbian: preferences - Performance
[04:27] <pfifo> townes, sure
[04:27] <edbian> stimoceiver: in mplayer?
[04:27] <fizyplankton> since i dont want to reboot my machine to back up my partition, if i create a new partition and copy / over to it, will that make a backup good enough to revert from 10.10 bakc to 10.04?
[04:27] <Explodinpiglets> How about you guys make sre your "advice" actually works before you give it?
[04:27] <mickster04> !who
[04:27] <mickster04> !volunteer | Explodinpiglets
[04:27] <stimoceiver> pfifo: it is mplayer, but what i dont get is, it also lists xv (0 - NV17 Video Texture)
[04:27] <mickster04> Explodinpiglets: eitherway choill out
[04:27] <stimoceiver> edbian: i installed the SMPlayer front end
[04:27] <edbian> stimoceiver: thanks
[04:28] <mickster04> Explodinpiglets: non of us are paid for this
[04:28] <Explodinpiglets> Excuse me? mickster04
[04:28] <stimoceiver> pfifo: and the thing is that xv (0 - NV17 Video Texture) is so much crappier than xv (1 - NV05 Video Blitter)
[04:28] <stimoceiver> pfifo: that it has me wondering if it is possible to set this globally somehow for other video players
[04:28] <mickster04> Explodinpiglets: ps aux | grep firefox in terminal, then kill the pid
[04:28] <mickster04> !kill
[04:28] <pfifo> stimoceiver, basically just the lib used to display the picture, personally -vo sdl works great for me
[04:29] <stimoceiver> pfifo: yah sdl was decent too but still somewhat flickery on my nvidia card, xv (0 - NV17 Video Texture) was also flickery
[04:29] <rww> Explodinpiglets: My scrollback has a noticible lack of people advising you to use xkill, so I'm not sure which advice you're talking about.
[04:29] <stimoceiver> pfifo: but xv (1 - NV05 Video Blitter) is frigging FLAWLESS
[04:30] <Explodinpiglets> it was several days ago rww
[04:30] <pfifo> stimoceiver, there isnt a standard way to play vidoes in linux so at this point you cant set anything like that globally.
[04:30] <stimoceiver> pfifo: sure, but doesnt xv use vaapi?
[04:31] <stimoceiver> pfifo: like, i wouldnt mind being able to duplicate this kind of performance in VLC player...
[04:31] <Sadin56> i just finished my install for ubuntu 10.10 it told me to restart and i turned it back on and nothing happend im going to attempt to install again...
[04:31] <pfifo> stimoceiver, im not sure. i think vaapi has its own option
[04:31] <rww> Explodinpiglets: not seeing it. perhaps you use multiple nicknames. Regardless, as mickster04 said, the people in #ubuntu are volunteers, and not treating them snarkily tends to be useful.
[04:31] <clayguc> on 10.01 the wireless symbol is gone, how do i bring it back?> i can't get online in ubuntu *(im in xp now)
[04:31] <stimoceiver> pfifo: i didnt see a vaapi option, what i see is a vdpau option, but vdpau is redundant for me since i loaded the VDPAU backend package for vaapi
[04:32] <pfifo> stimoceiver, have you checkd vlc command line switches, i think you can set it xv
[04:32] <rww> Explodinpiglets: and as DaPenguin said, kill it. If that doesn't work, kill -9 it. Your desktop environment may have a graphical tool for doing so; I wouldn't know.
[04:32] <stimoceiver> pfifo: yah i looked at it but im not seeing a way to enumerate these different xv options that SMplayer is showing
[04:32] <clayguc> on 10.01 the wireless symbol is gone, how do i bring it back?> i can't get online in ubuntu *(im in xp now)
[04:33] <pfifo> stimoceiver, then its probbally in a config file (possibly a non-existant one)
[04:33] <pfifo> stimoceiver, vlc copied most of mplayer so it should be around somewhere...
[04:34] <stimoceiver> pfifo: well, im trying to look further into this, the smplayer gui lists 3 different xv modes: xv, xv (0 - NV17 Video Texture), and xv (1 - NV05 Video Blitter), in addition to vdpau
[04:34] <quuxman> I think my problem is this used to be a debian system
[04:34] <stimoceiver> pfifo: and the performance difference for fullscreen between the 4 of them is nontrivial. =)
[04:35] <mickster04> quuxman: you have a problem, how long ago did you mention it?
[04:35] <quuxman> And when I installed mysql, it depended on upstart, which conflicted with sysvinit, which broke it
[04:35] <quuxman> ubuntu doesn't use the sysvinit package
[04:35] <rww> mickster04: about half an hour ago >.>
[04:35] <mickster04> !mysql | quuxman
[04:35] <rww> quuxman: How did you get from Debian to Ubuntu? A reinstall or something else
[04:35] <quuxman> mickster04: ?
[04:36] <pfifo> stimoceiver, thats expected, they are all using different methods
[04:36] <quuxman> rww: by modifying my sources.list
[04:36] <stimoceiver> pfifo: actually i might have found the setting for vlc... there is a "xvideo" entry under the "output modules" option tree under video
[04:36] <rww> quuxman: That's not a supported action by either us or Debian, and is liable to hose your system. Reinstall.
[04:36] <mickster04> quuxman: why didn't you just install mysql the way suggested in ubottu's link?
[04:36] <stimoceiver> pfifo: which gives xvideo adapter number
[04:37] <quuxman> mickster04: that's not here and now
[04:37] <quuxman> rww: it's not such an uncommon thing to do. It generally works, though it's a little tedious
[04:37] <Corleone> aff
[04:38] <rww> quuxman: It is uncommon, it doesn't generally work, and your system is no longer supportable in this channel.
[04:38] <quuxman> my question is, what packages should I reinstall to get the boot process to work?
[04:38] <stimoceiver> pfifo: yah i just tried it. setting the "xvideo" adapter number to 1 sure speeds things up. (the default is -1, which i assume means something like, let vlc player choose.
[04:39] <stimoceiver> pfifo: but this is a fairly obscure setting. i am just curious about the difference between xvideo adapter 0 (= texture interface according to the smplayer gui) and xvideo adapter 1 (= blit interface.) from what i know about blit operations versus texture operations, it does make sense that blitting would be faster
[04:40] <stimoceiver> pfifo: what doesnt make sense is that the xv interface would default to using texture operations.
[04:40] <ramadikka> heloo..
[04:41] <pfifo> stimoceiver, I bieleve that what you are telling it todo is use a video overlay, which would have a substantial advantage over direct rendering, but I cant say 100% id have to lookup those libs docs
[04:42] <stimoceiver> pfifo: yeah, i guess what i am looking for is a way to set the xv lib to use this blit/overlay method by default insted of the texture method
[04:43] <pfifo> stimoceiver, that makes perfect sense that it would default to direct rendering as most computers ship without a high end video card
[04:43] <stimoceiver> pfifo: anyway, i appreciate your following this with me... are there any apps or .conf files for tuning/adjusting xv defaults?
[04:43] <stimoceiver> pfifo: well maybe but i mean these days, most cards can probqably do overlay mode... when you say "most computers ship" i doubt any computer that is shipping today lacks this mode, even for shared memory video cards
[04:44] <stimoceiver>  /s/card/subsystems
[04:45] <pfifo> stimoceiver, i have no idea if xv has config files, usually libraries do not.
[04:45] <stimoceiver> pfifo: it looks like it would be set in the xorg.conf
[04:46] <Sadin56> i tried to restart my computer after installing ubuntu 10.10 and all i see is a huge list of end_request: I/O errors, dev sdb  messages is that normal oh and it hasnt shutdown yet...
[04:46] <pfifo> stimoceiver, yes however direct rending will always work, and overlay will generate uses giving feed back about mplayer being broken
[04:46] <mcurran> Can anyone tell me howto edit the sudoers file so that my user is equal to root, and doesn't need to enter password all the time.
[04:47] <rww> Sadin56: It's a bug, but nothing to worry about. Remove the CD-ROM and manually restart your computer with the case button.
[04:48] <Sadin56> alright thanks ill try
[04:48] <stimoceiver> pfifo: maybe in mplayer, but now that ive noticed this i need to find a way to change the default, cuz pretty much all video players bundled with ubuntu look unbearably crappy and flickery using xv device #0, wheras changing to device #1 makes it unbelievably smooth in comparison
[04:48] <MaRk-I> !root | mcurran
[04:48] <Sadin56> well rww should i do the same even if i used USB
[04:48] <rww> Sadin56: yes
[04:48] <stimoceiver> pfifo: the point is this is not a setting a typical new user is going to figure out, SMPlayer isnt even installed by default
[04:48] <Sadin56> k thanks
[04:48] <mcurran> whatever, I'm sick of sudo and I don't care how unsecure it is.
[04:49] <rww> mcurran: See "Remove Password Prompt For sudo" on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:49] <stimoceiver> pfifo: and only in the "video" output method selection dropdown of SMPlayer is it even enumerated with a name.... that or telling people to type "xvinfo" at the command line
[04:49] <rww> mcurran: and note that any consequences of following those instructions, and the instructions themselves, are not supported by this channel.
[04:49] <Sadin56> rww ubuntu isnt starting up its at a blinking curser after i turn on my computer and still sitting there
[04:50] <stimoceiver> pfifo: so i guess i have a question now about how to set the default adaptor number in the xorg.conf or the x-video extension section of xorg.conf...
[04:50] <pfifo> stimoceiver, unfortunatly, most of ubuntu ships without support for most video to begin with so a new user has alot more to worry about
[04:52] <stimoceiver> pfifo: how so? you mean if people dont know to install the proprietary nvidia or ati drivers?
[04:52] <Sadin56> ubuntu wont start after install just get a blinking curser anyone know how to solve this?
[04:52] <edbian> pfifo: I agree with you.  It is one more thing they have to worry about
[04:53] <pfifo> stimoceiver, no there is legal issues around many of the popular codecs to where ubuntu cannot ship with them, there is only a handful of completly free codecs supported by default
[04:53] <edbian> Sadin56: press shift to get to a grub menu during boot time.  When you get to the grub menu choose the first Ubuntu kernel and press 'e' to edit it'  add the option 'nomodeset' to the end and try to boot
[04:53] <stimoceiver> pfifo: so do you have any idea, what to put in xorg.conf to tell the X server to use "adaptor 1" instead of "adaptor 0" ?
[04:54] <pfifo> stimoceiver, no, i dont, i always stick -vo sdl in mplayer.conf
[04:54] <stimoceiver> pfifo: regarding legal issues: isnt the codec issue the same 'proprietary' issue that prevents ubuntu being distributed with ati or nvidia proprietary drivers? i note that simply by enabling those package sources in synaptic, i was able to downlopad all of the above, vlc, codecs, and nvidia drivers
[04:54] <Sadin56> ebian pressing shift does nothing
[04:54] <stimoceiver> pfifo: yeah re: mplayer.conf: im trying to find a way to do the equivalent in xorg.conf
[04:54] <Sadin56> edbian ^^
[04:55] <RealOpty> i want my home folder on another partition thats on the same hdd. should i use a symbolic link or a hard link?
[04:55] <MaRk-I> Sadin56: you have to press shift as soon as you see ubuntu starting... the 2 purple icons etc.
[04:55] <ayaka> are there any game cheat in linux?
[04:55] <Sadin56> i dont get there
[04:55] <Sadin56> it never gets to that part
[04:55] <mithridates> how can I resolve a dependency issue? how can I find the problem?
[04:55] <Sadin56> it sits at a black screen with white curser and does nothing
[04:56] <pfifo> stimoceiver, alot of users get stumped about mp3's and xvid, most are used to installing via an exe and dont know where to look for them.
[04:56] <Xase> Overscan issues here... what can I do about them?
[04:56] <stimoceiver> pfifo: true. true. understood. i may have a wee bit more experience than that
[04:56] <MaRk-I> Sadin56: then press is as soon as the bios finishes loading
[04:56] <stimoceiver> Xase: what video card and what monitor/TV ?
[04:57] <Xase> I have an intel4500mhd
[04:57] <Xase> Panasonic Viera, not sure on the model
[04:57] <Sadin56> MaRk-l tried that nothing :/
[04:57] <edbian> Sadin56: I'm here sorry.
[04:57] <stimoceiver> Xase: is that Panasonic a HDTV ?
[04:57] <Xase> Hold for model stimoceiver
[04:57] <Xase> Yes stimoceiver
[04:57] <quuxman> How do I disable a resume from disk?
[04:57] <quuxman> say it's failing, and I want to just manually turn it off
[04:58] <Sadin56> edbian the shift thing does not work i never get to the ubuntu start screen just black screen with white curser
[04:58] <edbian> Sadin56: You have to press shift before it gets to the white cursor.   Turn the machine off.  Boot the machine and as soon as the POST is done jam on shift like it's your job.
[04:58] <stimoceiver> Xase: the issue has to do with the EDID data the monitor provides to the graphics adapter... im looking for a link
[04:58] <Sadin56> ok lol
[04:58] <mithridates> any idea about resolving a dependency issue?
[04:58] <Xase> Alright stimoceiver.
[04:58] <Sadin56> edbian nothing :O shift simply isnt doing anything
[04:58] <edbian> Sadin56: That was the fastest boot ever
[04:59] <Sadin56> yeah iknow...
[04:59] <Xase> Also, are there any intel graphics tools available to Linux/Ubuntu, as I was aware from my research that Intel tends to be very friendly with the Linux community.
[04:59] <Sadin56> adbian should i try a power reset?
[04:59] <quuxman> There must be a flag somewhere I can turn off that's set to notify the boot process to resume from a memory image
[04:59] <edbian> Sadin56: yes.  What other type of rebooting is there?
[04:59] <Sadin56> edbian should i try a power reset sorry keep typing your name wrong
[05:00] <edbian> Sadin56: yes
[05:00] <Sadin56> lol k
[05:00] <rww> !tab
[05:00] <stimoceiver> Xase: i had the exact same problem with an nvidia card, the quick and dirty solution is to create a custom EDID file and tell the x server to use it... url here: http://analogbit.com/fix_nvidia_edid
[05:00] <Baribal_> mithridates, without more information: If in doubt, --fix-missing or --fix-broken.
[05:00] <Xase> Thanks stimoceiver, is there a long and drawn out solution as well?
[05:01] <stimoceiver> Xase: while there may be a simpler solution if you can find a directive for the "Device" section of the xorg.conf file to just tell it to ignore EDID
[05:01] <mithridates> Baribal_: what kind of information ?
[05:01] <Sadin56> edbian i got nothing i dont know whats going wrong...
[05:01] <Xase> Hmm
[05:01] <stimoceiver> Xase: but that depends on the video adapter... the solution given at that url will for sure work for the problem you are having
[05:02] <Xase> Well this isn't the default device, so I'm sure it's not in xorg stimoceiver... at least when it's not plugged in.
[05:02] <Xase> BRB
[05:02] <Xase> Alright I'll check it out mate, thanks.
[05:02] <Baribal_> mithridates, for instance what the actual problem is.
[05:02] <mickster04> !who | Xase
[05:03] <RealOpty> i want my home folder on another partition thats on the same hdd. should i use a symbolic link or a hard link to the new home folder? im thinking hard link ????
[05:03] <mithridates> Baribal_: actual problem is that I'm in gnome right now but things are weird, graphic is not perfect, so I tried sudo apt-get install gnome that I got that dependency issue
[05:03] <mithridates> Baribal_:  gnome : Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.30+7ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[05:03] <Sadin56> no one knows what to do when ubuntu wont start up and all you see is white curser blinking on white screen
[05:03] <mithridates> Baribal_: and I can't get into Ubuntu Desktop, I'm in Ubuntu Classic Desktop
[05:03] <Sadin56> ?
[05:03] <Xase> mickster04, Unfortunately I'm aware already, and I'm sure my target saw my response nonetheless, but thanks for being such a samaritan.
[05:04] <pfifo> RealOpty, i use a symbolic link if i cannot mount it where i need it.
[05:04] <RealOpty> pfifo, ok ty
[05:05] <Baribal_> mithridates, "not going to be installed"? Any further information? Also, tried apt-get --fix-missing already?
[05:06] <mithridates> Baribal_: yes, I got same exactly error
[05:06] <mithridates> Baribal_: it's funny because it says this line is for more information
[05:06] <symbi> is there a way to get cds to mount in the same location every time? i go to install something from cd and then have the next cd expects the location to be the same
[05:06] <mithridates> Baribal_: http://pastebin.com/79sUHyvT
[05:08] <Baribal_> mithridates, try running --fix-missing, *then* install gnome. If that doesn't work, I don't know.
[05:08] <pfifo> symbi, you can directly mount anything anywhere with the mount command
[05:09] <Baribal_> mithridates, are you running LTS or unstable?
[05:09] <mickster04> Xase: IT'S just that people joining the channel to help scan for nameless lines, then try and help out
[05:09] <symbi> pfifo: i was looking for something which i change so that auto-mounting still works
[05:09] <mithridates> Baribal_: natty (please don't tell me go to ubuntu+1) they don't answer
[05:10] <pfifo> symbi, auto-mount will still work, you can just mount it where you want it manually. as far as auto-mounting goes, I dont know if you can get it not to use the name of the cd.
[05:10] <MaRk-I> mithridates: you should try ubuntu-desktop   instead of just gnome
[05:10] <symbi> pfifo: ok.. i'll keep looking. thanks.
[05:11] <mithridates> MaRk-I: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[05:12] <MaRk-I> mithridates: then you have gnome installed
[05:12] <rww> mithridates: #ubuntu is for released versions of Ubuntu only. The quietness of the channel you're supposed to be in doesn't change that.
[05:12] <mithridates> MaRk-I: so why can't I login to ubuntu desktop?
[05:13] <MaRk-I> mithridates: what do you mean you can't log in?
[05:13] <pfifo> MaRk-I, natty comes with unity by default
[05:13] <MaRk-I> and natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <mithridates> MaRk-I: in login page we have: ubuntu, ubuntu desktop, ubuntu desktop safe, ubuntu netbook,....
[05:14] <rww> mithridates: Go to #ubuntu+1, please.
[05:14] <mithridates> rww: ok sorry
[05:15] <optidude> hello all
[05:15] <optidude> how is everyone
[05:16] <pfifo> OHAI
[05:18] <mickster04> hulloi
[05:18] <vaasu> hi there
[05:18] <mickster04> problem?
[05:21] <DOokami> haaaaaah ,, hello everyone
[05:21] <pfifo> i have like 50 bastebin tabs open
[05:21] <DOokami> i tried sooo hard to find a way to "download videos from youtube" on ubuntu but non worked for me ,, can any one please help me
[05:21] <GadsdenGraphics> window right
[05:21] <GadsdenGraphics> lol
[05:22] <mickster04> DOokami: try in !ot, this is ubuntu specific help, you are not asking something that ubuntu is supposed to be able to do
[05:22] <GadsdenGraphics> Can anyone point me to a start here?  My touchpad is very sensitive and I get accidental preses - using Awesome WM.
[05:22] <rww> ... what.
[05:22] <pfifo> DOokami, i think there are some firefox plugins for that
[05:22] <stimoceiver> pfifo: this is the kind of problem im up against trying to do this in xorg.conf: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html#toc8
[05:22] <GadsdenGraphics> In KDE ,Synaptiks gives me a config option to fix that - in Awesome, I'm lost.
[05:22] <rww> mickster04: #ubuntu-offtopic is not a support channel, and Ubuntu has packages in its repositories for downloading from Youtube.
[05:22] <DOokami> pfifo, thanks man, i'll look them up right away
[05:23] <mickster04> rww: i did not know that
[05:23] <rww> !info youtube-dl | being the prototypical one
[05:23] <mickster04> rww: i didn't think his request was within the boundaries for ubuntu support tbh
[05:23] <pfifo> stimoceiver, lol @ Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...
[05:24] <DOokami> rww, thanks a lot ^^
[05:24] <DOokami> rww, i downloaded youtube-dl, but i didn't know how to actually use it ,, and "minitube" don't work at all as well
[05:24] <DOokami> rww, any ideas
[05:24] <MaRk-I> DOokami: lates Umplayer does that
[05:24] <mickster04> DOokami: man youtube-dl
[05:25] <Wolframn> DOokami, what's wrong with video2mp3?
[05:25] <GadsdenGraphics> I'm looking to disable my touchpad while typing, in Awesome.  Anyone?
[05:25] <rww> DOokami: I haven't actually used youtube-dl. I use tinyogg.com instead for that sort of thing, but that's probably not what you're looking for.
[05:25] <Wolframn> GadsdenGraphics, you do not have a fn-hotkey combination for that?
[05:26] <GadsdenGraphics> Wolframn: Not what I mean - I need it to shut off for .5 sec when typing.
[05:26] <GadsdenGraphics> Wolframn: In KDE, it's called "smart mode"
[05:26] <trihope> New to ubuntu, anyone interested in helping me get compiz fusion installed/running etc
[05:26] <Wolframn> GadsdenGraphics, I am not familiar with that, sorry. >_>
[05:26] <GadsdenGraphics> kde-config-touchpad handles it well, and synaptiks does it as well.  In Awesome, I have no idea how to get this.
[05:26] <GadsdenGraphics> Wolframn: Thx anyhow ;)
[05:26] <GadsdenGraphics> window down
[05:27] <Wolframn> trihope, while we're here to help, and we're happy to!, do yourself a favor and learn of the Ubuntu wiki as well as how to use Google. Do you have a *specific* issue?
[05:27] <vaasu> DOokami: try downloadhelper firefox extension
[05:27] <Wolframn> GadsdenGraphics, No worries! Sorry I can't be more help.
[05:27] <GadsdenGraphics> My "window down" was a weechat command.  The slash was skipped because my touchpad moved focus :(
[05:28] <trihope> well, i was told it was already installed on the ubuntu, but not seeing the options
[05:28] <Sadin56> edbian oh i read up on how to access the grub menu i did not know you wanted me to hold down the shift key so i will try it again after re install :)
[05:28] <mickster04> !compiz | trihope
[05:28] <Wolframn> trihope, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[05:28] <MaRk-I> GadsdenGraphics: check on System > Preferences > mouse  "touch pad" tab
[05:28] <rww> trihope: The basic options for compiz are System > Preferences > Appearances > Visual Effects. More advanced customization is available through CCSM.
[05:28] <rww> !ccsm | trihope
[05:29] <rww> trihope: if you go to the Visual Effects tab and it's not set to "Normal" or "Extra" and you can't set it to one of those, your graphics drivers don't support 3D acceleration.
[05:29] <Wolframn> trihope, please don't think we're trying to be rude by referring you to links - it's just that "pro" users really are just adept at googling their own issues and only really asking for help when totally stumped. =P
[05:29] <trihope> k, thanks I'll check out the links
[05:30] <mickster04> trihope: on the plus soide, if it's an ubottu link it means lots of people have similar issues
[05:30] <Wolframn> trihope, let us know if you run into any glitches, etc and we'll be glad to help out! =D
[05:30] <trihope> btw, what does this do?  "! ccsm"
[05:30] <Wolframn> In the chat? It tells ubottu (our bot) to provide the information
[05:30] <rww> trihope: ubottu is a fact bot. Messages beginning with ! are generally instructions to it to say something.
[05:30] <mickster04> trihope: ! means it's an ubottu command, and the bot will try and interpret it
[05:30] <mickster04> !bot
[05:30] <pfifo> !votekick
[05:30] <DOokami> rww, i want to be able to download them in "good quality" and "convert them to mpeg4" which i know how right now ,, only the downloading part, thanks a lot :)
[05:31] <Wolframn> !shutup | pfifo ( =D )
[05:31] <DOokami> MaRk-i, Umplayer ?
[05:31] <mickster04> !behave
[05:31] <Wolframn> lol
[05:31] <ludican> hello everyone!
[05:31] <rww> !shaddap | Wolframn
[05:31] <mickster04> hello
[05:31] <DOokami> wolframn, it gives mp3, i need the Video
[05:31] <Wolframn> !hi | ludican
[05:31] <MaRk-I> DOokami: yes Umplayer
[05:31] <DOokami> mickster04, alright, thanks
[05:31] <rww> anyways, enough with the bot abuse ;P
[05:31] <Wolframn> Hello ludican
[05:31] <trihope> thanks
[05:32] <Wolframn> Always a pleasure, trihope
[05:32] <DOokami> MaRk-I , i don't know what it is ,, can i download it
[05:32] <mickster04> !info Umplayer
[05:32] <MaRk-I> DOokami: search in software center if not you can add the PPA for the newst version
[05:33] <MaRk-I> DOokami: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/umplayer-available-in-webupd8-ubuntu.html
[05:33] <rww> webupd8 :(
[05:36] <Sadin56> edbian, rww, MaRk-l thanks to all of u guys for helping me on my first ubuntu install :)
[05:37] <fdvalero> Sadin56 enjoy
[05:39] <MaRk-I> Sadin56: yw
[05:40] <Sadin56> fdvalero thanks i will :)
[05:40] <fdvalero> where are you from
[05:41] <babu__> how to update vlc
[05:41] <multipass> is there much difference from ubuntu netbook and the new ubuntu with unity?
[05:41] <fdvalero> sudo apt-get install vls
[05:41] <rww> multipass: Yes. Unity is a ground-up rewrite in 11.04.
[05:41] <fdvalero> .... vlc
[05:42] <multipass> rww, isnt unbuntu netbook the same thing?
[05:42] <babu__> ya..i had already installed vlc...how to update it
[05:42] <Falconspire> ok so
[05:42] <Falconspire> there is a douche on ztecnet
[05:42] <rww> !ot | Falconspire
[05:42] <pfifo> babu__, sudo apt-get update vlc
[05:42] <rww> multipass: As I just said, no. The UNE interface was completely rewritten (using Compiz) for 11.04, and has a number of interface changes.
[05:43] <fdvalero> first add medibuntu repos
[05:43] <babu__> command s wrong..
[05:43] <unityproblem> any one here to help?
[05:43] <babu__> update will not take any arguments..it show error in command line
[05:43] <pfifo> babu__, sorry, sudo apt-get upgrade vlc
[05:43] <MaRk-I> babu__: if there's no update available you have to wait untill the update is released
[05:44] <unityproblem> unity is not loading in my pc on natty 11.04 beta 1  can you help?
[05:44] <multipass> rww, ah ok thanks, would you recommend 11.04 or netbook edition for my EEE netbook?
[05:44] <fdvalero> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list \
[05:44] <MaRk-I> unityproblem: join #ubuntu+1 for natty
[05:44] <fdvalero> --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[05:44] <babu__> when i did upgrade ...it upgrades all the packages in ubuntu...i want to update vlc alone
[05:44] <fdvalero> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list \ --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[05:45] <rww> multipass: 11.04 hasn't been released yet. I'd recommend waiting until it is and then using it.
[05:45] <fdvalero> sudo apt-get -q update
[05:45] <babu__> don't u understand my qn
[05:45] <fdvalero> sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring
[05:45] <unityproblem> unity is not loading on my pc on natty 11.04 can you help??
[05:45] <MaRk-I> unityproblem: join #ubuntu+1 for natty
[05:46] <fdvalero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:46] <fdvalero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:46] <fdvalero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:46] <FloodBot2> fdvalero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <rww> fdvalero: stop that
[05:46] <babu__> pls reply
[05:47] <fdvalero> ok
[05:47] <fdvalero> just answer abut vlc
[05:48] <babu__> how to update vlc alone...pls reply for godsake
[05:48] <rww> babu__: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:48] <mickster04> fdvalero: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:48] <rww> babu__: if the package is already installed, the 'install' action updates it.
[05:48] <babu__> ok
[05:49] <babu__> there's subtitle prob in vlc.....subtitle didn't appear when i loaded it..instead it appears as special char
[05:51] <babu__> there's subtitle prob in vlc.....subtitle didn't appear when i loaded it..instead it appears as special char
[05:51] <murphy> Hi
[05:52] <pfifo> OHAI
[05:53] <kazagistar> babu__: did the subtitle work elsewhere?
[05:53] <babu__> ya..in miro
[05:54] <murphy> I have a computer with 512m memory, which ubuntu can I install?
[05:54] <Lewoco> A particular version of the kernel is causing me hassles. Is there anyway to 'ban' a particular version so that aptitude will not upgrade to it, but still upgrade to later versions?
[05:54] <doobien> murphy, any of em
[05:55] <murphy> doobien: what is em?
[05:55] <doobien> any of the buntus
[05:55] <pfifo> murphy, there all just about the same if your looking for a lightweight desktop you could use ubuntu netbook remix
[05:55] <murphy> pfifo: thanks
[05:56] <pfifo> !pin | Lewoco this might work
[05:56] <rana> quien puede hablar en espaÑol aquí?
[05:56] <pfifo> !es | rana
[05:57] <rana> gracias, eso es lo que busqué
[05:57] <rana> buscaba*
[05:57] <pfifo> por favor
[05:58] <pfifo> or no that not it is it
[05:58] <MaRk-I> pfifo: "de nada"
[05:58] <pfifo> de nada
[05:58] <Aleiex> hi
[05:58] <Aleiex> I need to write some data in ntfs partition
[05:58] <Aleiex> but can't
[05:58] <Aleiex> any help?
[05:59] <pfifo> Aleiex, whats the problem?
[05:59] <Aleiex> pfifo permision
[05:59] <Aleiex> i need to use chmod on ntfs partition
[05:59] <Aleiex> but dont know how
[06:00] <Aleiex> to write/delete in ntfs partition
[06:00] <ajin> hi, will "docky" this program make any sense under ubuntu11.04, since there will be unity launcher already
[06:00] <rhizmoe> not going to happen.
[06:00] <ajin> ?
[06:00] <KXTwo> you have an ntfs partition but dont have permission to it?
[06:00] <rhizmoe> Aleiex: ^
[06:00] <KXTwo> whereever it is mounted
[06:00] <hopeless8009> hay there is a grapics program called compez is that the right thing i think i'm slightly off
[06:00] <KXTwo> simply use chmod on it to give write permissions
[06:00] <rhizmoe> ntfs doesn't use file modes
[06:00] <pfifo> Aleiex, im not sure that would work, Im pretty sure youll have todo it as root
[06:00] <rhizmoe> hopeless8009: compiz
[06:00] <Aleiex> pfifo but how
[06:00] <Aleiex> which command
[06:00] <MaRk-I> ajin: join #ubuntu+1 for natty questions/issues
[06:01] <ajin> ok
[06:01] <Aleiex> sudo chmod ???
[06:01] <pfifo> Aleiex, you use sudo to perform an operation as root
[06:02] <hopeless8009> rhizmoe, i typed that in my surch and it gave no results im on ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:02] <pfifo> Aleiex, I dont think chown is designed to work on NTFS file systems
[06:02] <SudoGhost> hopeless8009, what search did you type that into?
[06:03] <Kyubey> Is this the channel were I would ask a question about Natty?
[06:03] <hopeless8009> the software center in ubuntu
[06:03] <MaRk-I> kyle1: #ubuntu+1
[06:03] <pfifo> !natty | Kyubey
[06:03] <SudoGhost> Kyubey, #ubuntu+1
[06:03] <Kyubey> Oh, thanks :)
[06:03] <digitalfiz> how do i find out via the cli what event my usb keyboard is?
[06:03] <MaRk-I> oops kyle1 my bad kyle1 ... Kyubey ^^
[06:04] <pfifo> digitalfiz, use `xev`
[06:04] <digitalfiz> says unable to open display
[06:04] <digitalfiz> im messing with a keylogger and i need to know which event it is in /dev/input
[06:05] <hopeless8009> SudoGhost, i typed it into the Ubuntu software center
[06:05] <pfifo> digitalfiz, ahh, no X available, I dont think cli supports all the extrakey, or atleast ive never heARD OF A PROGRAM ACCESSING THEM, SORRY
[06:05] <pfifo> -caps
[06:05] <KXTwo> Aleixei your ntfs partition should actuay show up right in your places
[06:05] <KXTwo> once you click on it it will mount
[06:05] <KXTwo> and youa re good to go
[06:06] <KXTwo> I move files back and forth from mine all the time
[06:06] <SudoGhost> hopeless8009, I've never messed with Compiz, but I don't believe it's available in the software center.
[06:06] <UbuntuNoob> can anyone explain to my what the point of the terminal is? it seems like theres a gui for all of the things it does
[06:06] <Aleiex> KXTwo i know, I can acces, but can't write data in that partition
[06:07] <rww> UbuntuNoob: There isn't a GUI for all of the things it does.
[06:07] <pfifo> UbuntuN00b, cli is all there used to be, gui is simply just a front end.
[06:07] <pfifo> i think i just got trolled
[06:07] <Starminn> UbuntuNoob: Sometimes it's easier in instances when you're doing something to a bunch of files (i.e. renaming a bunch of files), etc.
[06:08] <UbuntuNoob> pfifo: i wish i was trolling i dont really get it though. i more or less dont understand anything about it
[06:09] <UbuntuNoob> like ive used it to kill processes or to move files, but its much more convenient to just close the windows or move the files in the file manager window i think
[06:09] <hopeless8009> IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GET A VERGEN MOBILE AIR CARD INSTALLED ON UBUNTU
[06:09] <bazhang> hopeless8009, no caps
[06:10] <Starminn> UbuntuNoob: That's good in terms of Ubuntu's goal, then. Just use whatever works for you. If GUI works for you then go for it. If you ever need a CLI then you'll use it when that time comes.
[06:10] <maco> hopeless8009: have you tried the mobile broadband wizard in network manager? also, your caps lock is on.
[06:10] <pfifo> UbuntuN00b, what if you wanted a webserver that didnt have all the resouces being wasted on X and Gnome?
[06:10] <hopeless8009> I KNOW I JUST JUST AM TO DURNK TO TURN IT OFF
[06:10] <rww> hopeless8009: I recommend you fix that soon.
[06:10] <bazhang> hopeless8009, then part the channel
[06:11] <UbuntuNoob> alright thanks guy
[06:11] <Starminn> UbuntuNoob: This will help you know a little bit about how to use the CLI: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html if you want. Then choose if you like it or not.
[06:11] <UbuntuNoob> s
[06:11] <hopeless8009> hows this
[06:11] <icedtea> anyone know what package the kde control center is in?
[06:12] <yekta> Could someone please help me figure out why my wireless won't connect.  It sees the card & network, all my other mac's can join no problem, I've tried installing ndiswrapper with the correct inf driver and that was successful, ifconfig wlan0 up works...
[06:12] <symbi> does anybody know how to share a cd writing device with rdesktop?
[06:12] <symbi> i'd like to actually write cds
[06:13] <symbi> i tried -r disk:cdrom=/dev/sr0 and -r disk:cdrom=/media/cdrom
[06:14] <pfifo> symbi, wouldnt you need physical access to the machine for that? to load the CD-R
[06:14] <symbi> pfifo: it's connecting your local drive to a remote server so the answer is no.
[06:15] <MaRk-I> symbi: so why don't just d/l whatever is in the remote server and then burn it?
[06:15] <pfifo> symbi, ahh the otherway around, sorry Im not sure about that then.
[06:15] <symbi> pfifo: it's certainly possible in linux to do remote burning. i know in windows with rdp you can do it too.
[06:16] <symbi> MaRk-I: i'd actually like to have it because i want to install software which is being problematic without direct access. a normal share isn't doing the trick.
[06:16] <symbi> if it showed up as a device instead of a network share i'm sure the software would install. so technically i don't need to burn anything.
[06:17] <Guest36598> hi
[06:20] <sadin> ok first time installing something on Ubuntu i downloaded Aptana IDE from aptana.com and it gave me a zip file what do i do?
[06:20] <ajin> anyone has the pogress information of AppStream?
[06:22] <Afteraffekt> i know this is OT, but im trying to find it. there was a mod to gnome's bars that got so big they decided to separate the two projects and made the bar mod its on application. anybody familiar?
[06:22] <iceroot> Afteraffekt: #gnome
[06:22] <pfifo> sadin, for that program you will be on your own, check the zipfile for instructions
[06:22] <accel> I just logged into my ubuntu machine, and it says "SYSTEM RESTART REQUIRED" <-- wtf does this mean?
[06:23] <accel> I just logged into my ubuntu machine, and it says "SYSTEM RESTART REQUIRED" <-- wtf does this mean? [I logged in over ssh]
[06:23] <sadin> alright pfifo
[06:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I have an odd error. I'm trying to install on a 64 bit machine from a 10.10 64 disc that I've used recently. The farthest I can get is a black screen that says "See :"
[06:23] <iceroot> accel: there was an update for the kernel or libc
[06:23] <iceroot> accel: and for that you need to restart the system
[06:23] <accel> iceroot: but I havne't done an apt-get update
[06:24] <accel> oh well
[06:24] <Seven_Six_Two> It just booted a 10.04 x86 disc to the desktop, so I know the pc works
[06:25] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, perhaps you should see:
[06:25] <Seven_Six_Two> and up till now, it has been running vista without issue. well, without expected issues  ;)
[06:25] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[06:25] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, no
[06:26] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't even get a purple screen
[06:26] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, id check the md5sum even if it was recently used, thats the most obivous aside from a reboot
[06:27] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, yeah. I should start downloading it again too. I'm trying to get the mini iso bootable from usb
[06:28] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, those cds barely last long enough to keep up with the releases
[06:29] <bin_bash> I'd like to know the proper syntax for rsyncing from an external drive to my home folder
[06:29] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, lol...
[06:29] <iceroot> bin_bash: rsynv -av /path/where/to/sync/from/ /local/path/to/sync/
[06:30] <Seven_Six_Two> does anyone know if there is a known issue with using the mini.iso download with the startup disc creator?
[06:30] <bin_bash> iceroot: thanks
[06:30] <iceroot> Seven_Six_Two: lauchpad knows
[06:30] <iceroot> Seven_Six_Two: launchpad knows
[06:31] <^Phantom^> I won't break the filesystem on my NFTS-formatted backup drive by massively organizing the scattered mess of files into general categories will I?
[06:31] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, i dont think the mini.iso supports the proper features for a grub2 isoboot
[06:31] <^Phantom^> for example, putting all the files of general types (videos, audio, etc) into single folders
[06:31] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, alright. I'll waste the disc. Thanks
[06:32] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: i dont see a reason why (and please remove the ^ from your nick its not very nice on qwertz-layouts)
[06:32] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, last i checked its nothing but a kernel and initramfs tho so grub2 shoulld be able to atleast be told to boot them
[06:32] <^Phantom^> I mean, organize the contents under an ubuntu 10.10 system
[06:33] <pfifo> ^Phantom^, i will always consider ntfs file support as expermental.
[06:34] <ohsix> with ntfs-3g it's decidedly not
[06:34] <^Phantom^> pfifo, am I fairly safe?
[06:35] <ohsix> at one point in time there was only the in kernel one with read support and "experimental" write support though
[06:35] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: if they are separate filesystems it doesn't matter what the pair of them are
[06:35] <pfifo> ^Phantom^, its not suppposed to mess up anything anymore, if it does you can alyas file a bug report
[06:36] <^Phantom^> pfifo, ohsix: thank you :)
[06:36] <pehden> QUESTION: why would my ubuntu local file transfer upload no faster then 1MBps
[06:37] <pp7> pehden: router/hard drive speed?
[06:38] <pehden> new machines
[06:38] <pfifo> !details | pehden
[06:39]  * ^Phantom^ copies the files containing his taxes to a separate drive, just in case.
[06:39] <nnoell> I'm having a permissions problem with my camcorder on Ubuntu. I can do video capture if I run kino with gksudo, but cannot run it as a normal user (says that I can't read/write /dev/raw1394). I can get it where the normal user can run it by doing `chown root:disk /dev/raw1394` and adding the user to 'disk' group, but something is resetting the permissions on raw1394 each time I restart.
[06:39] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: if you're really concernerd then there are no half measures; you should back everything up
[06:39] <pehden> 10.10, im uploading of wifi G and the speed is capable of 54MBps and I can download at 10MBps local from the server but what could be preventing that in the upload
[06:40] <pp7> nnoell: sudo chmod 777 /dev/raw1394
[06:40] <Seven_Six_Two> I burned the mini.iso and I'm getting the same error. a black screen, with "See : "
[06:40] <ohsix> pp7: argh
[06:40] <pp7> ohsix: what?
[06:40] <pp7> ohsix: did i beat u to it?
[06:40] <ohsix> nnoell: if it's actually a disk when you plug it in you should report a bug; udev should be setting it up for you, and udisks should offer to mount it automatically
[06:40] <pfifo> pehden, you could have a crappy signal strength coming from the client, but great signAL STRENGTH FROM THE ROUTER
[06:40] <nnoell> pp7, I don't want it world readable/writable and, as I said, the permissions are getting reset anyway.
[06:41] <pfifo> dam  caps
[06:41] <pehden> the server is on LAN
[06:41] <^Phantom^> ohsix, heh already done.  the really important (and irreplacable) data is backed-up from my backup drive to my flash drive while I do this. :)
[06:42] <pfifo> nnoell, make raw1394 owned by the firewire group and put the normal user in that group too
[06:42] <pehden> and I know both my laptop and server are set at 100T
[06:42] <ohsix> nnoell: props for knowing what chmod 777 means, most people don't :]
[06:42] <treebeen> nnoell: are you part of the video group?
[06:42] <ohsix> pfifo: udev/udisks should be doing this for you
[06:42] <nnoell> treebeen, Yes.
[06:42] <jamil_1> Hello pp, I am trying our ubuntu beta version. I am having trouble with mouse...left click some time works and some time acts like click and track (the hand icon shows). any suggestion ?
[06:43] <Roniga> !natty | jamil_1
[06:43] <^Phantom^> ohsix, when I finally get a new job, I'm gonna buy a 1TB drive and use that as my "master backup drive"
[06:43] <bin_bash> I'm trying to rsync from my external to my home folder but /media/ubuntu/home/user /home/user/ is not working
[06:43] <bin_bash> Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
[06:43] <pfifo> ^Phantom^, by that time 4tb will be a dime a dozen
[06:43] <nnoell> ohsix, The device seems to be loading now (the kernel modules are loading automatically after I de-blacklisted firewire-ohci), but it's just resetting to root:root instead of root:disk.
[06:44] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: backing stuff up is stilll tough, have to read the source every time, limiting how often you can do it based on the size
[06:44] <^Phantom^> lmao pfif
[06:44] <^Phantom^> pfifo*
[06:44] <bin_bash> nevrmind. silly casesensitivity
[06:44] <nnoell> (root:root / root:disk ownership that is) ... what could be resetting the permissions like that? udev?
[06:45] <^Phantom^> ohsix, there's my problem right there
[06:45] <treebeen> nnoell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058495
[06:45] <ohsix> nnoell: well, try getfacl on the device, an acl should be added when the session seat changes; the permissions don't change, also there are problems with ohci and suspend that i don't know if it got resolved in mav
[06:45] <^Phantom^> I never used a proper backup creation program, just copied over what I didn't want to lose in the case of primary HDD failure
[06:46] <^Phantom^> In the past, anywho
[06:46] <ohsix> deja-dup is nice; will run missed backups when you plug in the backup volume, but its still not very cheap to do
[06:46] <^Phantom^> Now I'm finally up and categorizing the stuff into general categories
[06:47] <ohsix> linux needs an fseventd so it can have a time machine
[06:47] <pfifo> my backup plan has always been to email it to myself if it seems important
[06:48] <^Phantom^> I learned the hard way, having to salvage what I could from a drive that started dying
[06:48] <sarthorks> Does using "sudo apt-get remove --purge wine" delete all the files in the .wine folder?
[06:48] <ohsix> thats problematic if you have over 100megs of things to back up
[06:48] <ohsix> sarthorks: no
[06:48] <^Phantom^> until it finally made a really nasty sound and never worked again :(
[06:48] <sarthorks> ohsix : then what does that command do?
[06:49] <ohsix> sarthorks: the extra purge step only removes what the package considers to be configuration files, usually stuff in /etc, sometimes elsewhere
[06:49] <pehden> QUESTION: why would my ubuntu local file transfer upload no faster then 1MBps,10.10, im uploading of wifi G and the speed is capable of 54MBps and I can download at 10MBps local from the server but what could be preventing that in the upload
[06:49] <ohsix> the package doesn't know about ~/.wine at all, programs in it create/use it
[06:49] <Starminn> sudo apt-get purge wine would also work. They're interchangable
[06:49] <nnoell> treebeen, I'm not seeing anything on there that I haven't tried
[06:50] <sarthorks> ohsix : so basically can i use this command to uninstall by current version of wine, and then install a newer version through a .deb file, WITHOUT affecting all the programs already installed under wine?
[06:50] <doobien> pehden, probably you ISP caps upload speed
[06:50] <nnoell> And the user is in the right group, it's the permissions on /dev/raw1394 that I need to make not reset on me
[06:50] <nnoell> But I can't figure out what is resetting it.
[06:50] <ohsix> sarthorks: probably, but installing an untracked .deb isn't a great idea
[06:50] <pehden> doobien it cant be that cause this is within the router/LAN
[06:50] <ohsix> nnoell: udev
[06:51] <ohsix> nnoell: theres' no static list of device nodes anymore with devfs
[06:51] <^Phantom^> iceroot, I would remove the ^ things, but the last time I did that, I got pwnd by an ircop
[06:51] <nnoell> ohsix, OK, so nothing I change via /dev will remain after I restart the system right?
[06:52] <doobien> pehden, my internal network uploads go at full speed - so i don't know either
[06:52] <nnoell> I have to change config in udev to make static changes to /dev
[06:52] <nnoell> ?
[06:52] <pfifo> nnoell, you can use mknod to make a permenat device node somewhere
[06:52] <sarthorks> ohsix: ok thanks. I wanted to try the unstable wine1.3 to see if one of the games which is currently not working will work in it or not. How exactly do I remove this version if i want to go back to the stable wine1.2?
[06:52] <ohsix> nnoell: probably more prudent to look for, and if not found; file a bug, it should work automatically
[06:53] <nnoell> ohsix, I definitely will file a bug. I'd just like to figure out as much as I can before I do, so that it's useful.
[06:53] <^Phantom^> ohsix, you've helped me in the past several times, now that i think of it.  thank you ^_^
[06:53] <ohsix> nnoell: are any sub devices created when you plug in the device or do you have to stick with the raw interface?
[06:53] <pehden> doobien is there a certian thing i need to set of the wlan0 and lan0
[06:53] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: np
[06:54] <nnoell> ohsix, This is what I get from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595384/
[06:55] <ohsix> nnoell: udevadm monitor might show extra devices being setup when you plug it in
[06:55] <KXTwo> so why is ubuntu better than arch?
[06:55] <pfifo> !ot | KXTwo
[06:56] <^Phantom^> ohsix, i have one drive (internal, 160GB) that is dedicated to torrenting and other high disk use operations, that is separate from my two main OS HDDs in this tower.  Good move?
[06:56] <ohsix> nnoell: i haven't had firewire to play with here, i don't know what proper behaviour is, but if permissions are wrong on the main interface i'm thinking v4l or whatever devices might be added on the fly with the proper permissions; but i can't say for sure
[06:57] <nnoell> ohsix, Thanks, I didn't know about udevadm monitor ... here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595385/
[06:57] <Afteraffekt> what are some docky alternatives that are more customizable?
[06:57] <pfifo> ^Phantom^, it depends on if your torrent disk is pata when it could be sata?
[06:57] <KXTwo> I knew some one would do it I freaking knesw it lol
[06:58] <ohsix> nnoell: k sec lemme look what udev would do with it
[06:58] <switch10_> Afteraffekt: awn
[06:58] <^Phantom^> I mean, is that a good idea, in the sense that it reduces unnecessary wear on the OS drives
[06:58] <nnoell> ohsix, Thanks for your help.
[06:58] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: sure i guess; there's not much wear anyways
[06:58] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: only issue is heat, if you don't have enough cooling that the drive being on all the time will generate excess heat, that's the only problem
[06:59] <rhizmoe> what is ubuntu's automounter called? or whatever dynamically mounts my different drives so that they don't always show up.
[06:59] <pfifo> ^Phantom^, personally i would want high disk usage being done on my best drives... but I have a bit of linux server mentality that dosent apply to p2p
[06:59] <xin> ?
[07:00] <rhizmoe> ^Phantom^: the chief benefit is that torrents exercise the drive with lots of tiny writes and reads, which gets in the way of other computery junk. the perf hit from that is much more noticeable than any physical wear.
[07:00] <ohsix> rhizmoe: udisks informs the automounter, try udisks --dump and see if it knows about your volume; you can also use Disk Utility
[07:01] <rhizmoe> would it be a matter of just moving stuff from there into fstab or wherever, leaving udisks to handle usb keys and such?
[07:01] <^Phantom^> rhizmoe, ah
[07:01] <rhizmoe> yeah, all my drives are listed
[07:02] <ohsix> nnoell: ok it looks like there's no special setup for video devices, just disks and audio
[07:02] <^Phantom^> Hey, I should have started organizing this drive a long time ago
[07:03] <rhizmoe> well, not "all my drives," but all that aren't my current ubu part
[07:03] <ohsix> nnoell: not that i can see anyways; it can be hard to look through these rules without plugging in something
[07:03] <rhizmoe> ^Phantom^: never too late
[07:03] <^Phantom^> I found the html file containing all my bookmarks from the ubuntu partition on my old laptop, which has a dead mobo and display
[07:03] <^Phantom^> woohoo
[07:03] <rhizmoe> there you go
[07:04] <^Phantom^> i'm getting a bit offtopic here, so I'll quiet down a bit :)
[07:04] <Ant9695> !list
[07:04] <ohsix> rhizmoe: you don't really get much by putting it in fstab except mounting it at boot, or mounting it somewhere than /media; with nautilus/udisks they'll be mounted on access
[07:04] <nnoell> ohsix -- You showing me about udevadm has helped a lot. I think I'll be able to figure out a bunch from here. I'll try to learn more about what udev is doing with it first. be back in a bit. Thanks for the help!
[07:04] <nnoell> Let me know if you think of anything you'd check, and I can post the output
[07:05] <rhizmoe> ohsix: thing is, they remount s o  s l o w l y
[07:05] <ohsix> rhizmoe: i had one volume i wanted mounted before i clicked on it, just so i could skip the step, i just told startup applications to mount it
[07:05] <rhizmoe> it's not "on access" if the file dialog doesn't know about them, basically.
[07:05] <ohsix> on access from the location sidebar or places
[07:05] <rhizmoe> so i go to /media, click on the volume, *then* it shows up in the app
[07:05] <ohsix> they won't show up when you'd access where they'd be like autofs
[07:05] <rhizmoe> ohsix: within apps
[07:06] <pfifo> irc  is used for filesharing?
[07:06] <rhizmoe> in windows terms, i have to go OOB to My Computer before the D: drive shows up
[07:06] <ohsix> pfifo: historically
[07:06] <rhizmoe> pfifo: for almost 20 years
[07:06] <rhizmoe> and i'm sure people used gopher before that
[07:07] <kesor> how do i know if i am using Karmic or Lucid, GDM, KDM or Slim????
[07:07]  * pfifo was trolling
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> What's the current 10.10 kernel version?  (With all current updates?)
[07:08] <kesor> how do i know if i am using Karmic or Lucid, GDM, KDM or Slim???? (i dont know what any of those even are)
[07:08] <thegoodcushion> kesor: go to Terminal and type uname -a
[07:08] <pfifo> thegoodcushion, it gave me 2.6.35 when i installed a week ago
[07:08] <neonkid> Hello
[07:08] <thegoodcushion> kesor: post the result here
[07:08] <huanhuan> hei
[07:08] <bhavesh> which is the best "Graphical Interface Design" app to make ubuntu softwares like Visual studio in windows ?
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> pfifo: ok
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> pfifo: thanks
[07:09] <neonkid> Man I wish I had a live CD right now
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> Is there any such thing as Ubuntu with HURD kernel?
[07:09] <ohsix> !best
[07:09] <kesor> thegoodcushion:  2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:09] <huanhuan> is there anyone from ningxia,china here?
[07:10] <bhavesh> ok....
[07:10] <ohsix> thegoodcushion: sure, i don't know personally what works though; theres kfreebsd too, same; they're debian upstream things
[07:10] <thegoodcushion> kesor: Ubuntu 10.10, Maverick Mererkat
[07:10] <Seven_Six_Two> bhavesh, bakery if you're using gtkmm
[07:11] <thegoodcushion> ohsix: I think you have to go with Debian to get HURD
[07:11] <kesor> thegoodcushion:  i know but what is it Karmic or lucid, stuff?
[07:11] <kesor> thegoodcushion:  becuase i am following a tutorail and it sais "If you use Karmic or Lucid and have installed the Pekwm package from the repositories, you can skip this step. "    so should i skip?
[07:12] <thegoodcushion> kesor: You have Maverick, not Karmic or Lucid
[07:12] <thegoodcushion> kesor: note they are in alphabetical order
[07:12] <pfifo> kesor, what is the step tell you to do?
[07:12] <kesor> thegoodcushion:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=662204      "step 3"
[07:13] <thegoodcushion> kesor: you do not have karmic nor lucid
[07:13] <pfifo> kesor, if you installed from the reposotories you can skip step 3
[07:14] <kesor> pfifo: ok thanks
[07:15] <kesor> where i find "Sessions menu of your login screen" ?
[07:15] <pfifo> kesor, you have t log out and there shold be an option for that
[07:16] <kesor> pfifo: ohh ok ill do it later
[07:16] <ohsix> kesor: on the login screen, after you've chosen your name to log in; the bar at the bottom
[07:17] <bhavesh> well which Graphical Interface Design tool is much closer to VB? (this is not polling)
[07:18] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> hi
[07:18] <feng> Is there command line alternative for freerapid?
[07:19] <pfifo> bhavesh, based on my experience with vb5 (yes five) i would say glade
[07:19] <ohsix> feng: not really; but there is tucan
[07:19] <feng> ohsix: tucan? let me google it.
[07:20] <Seven_Six_Two> bhavesh, glade-gnome
[07:20] <bhavesh> pfifo, Seven_Six_Two: ok ty
[07:20] <ohsix> feng: or ask your package manager :]
[07:21] <ohsix> glade is deprecated i think, since gtkbuilder
[07:21] <feng> ohsix: tucan, nice one, but it's gui
[07:21] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> hi
[07:21] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> help
[07:21] <ohsix> feng: ya, i qualified that with "no" to the command line thing ;]
[07:21] <feng> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: stay there, i will be there soon
[07:21] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> need help
[07:21] <feng> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: don't jump
[07:22] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> can sb help me
[07:22] <bhavesh> just ask your question
[07:22] <feng> ohsix: thanks
[07:22] <ohsix> ah gtkbuilder stuff finally landed in glade
[07:22] <bhavesh> O.O im downloading gblade :)
[07:22] <bhavesh> glade**
[07:23] <ohsix> heh
[07:23] <ohsix> it does the ui part; i'd suggest doing the rest in vala
[07:23] <pfifo> glade sux
[07:23] <ohsix> glade gives you some xml
[07:23] <bhavesh> glade sux...?
[07:23] <pfifo> i hate it
[07:23] <rww> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: best to just ask your question and see if anyone answers
[07:24] <rww> all on one line.
[07:24] <bhavesh> what do u use then...? (again I am not polling :P) pfifo
[07:24] <ohsix> why do you have to use anything
[07:24] <pfifo> bhavesh, i dont, I set it up manually
[07:24] <bhavesh> ok
[07:25] <pfifo> welcometo linux development
[07:25] <ohsix> you can use one of those rapid callaboration things to sketch stuff; then code it up
[07:25] <bhavesh> rapid collaboration things..?
[07:25] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> is ubuntu 10.10 better
[07:25] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> or 10.04 better
[07:26] <pfifo> draw it in gimp just to get pixel coordinates
[07:26] <ohsix> but if you use the xml files and gtkbuilder you can change the xml and change the ui without changing the code
[07:26] <bhavesh> ill have to try things first
[07:26] <ohsix> bhavesh: there are a few phases those builder things stuff together for the average user, the design/planning stage is one of them
[07:27] <pfifo> i use phpgtk so the xml by hand part just comes into play naturally
[07:27] <ohsix> oh and you can localize the xml files
[07:27] <bhavesh> do u have to develop apps only in XML?
[07:27] <ohsix> so when your software is distributed it can be easily localized
[07:27] <rww> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: Depends what you're doing. In general, I'd say 10.04, because it's LTS. LTS releases only need to be updated every three years instead of every eighteen months.
[07:27] <bhavesh> I loved visual studio 2008 programming
[07:28] <bhavesh> is it only xml?
[07:28] <ohsix> then you probably don't care for doing things properly, and the design step doesn't matter
[07:28] <bhavesh> I do
[07:28] <pfifo> bhavesh, hes only refering to the gui being xml, the code is most likely c or python
[07:28] <ohsix> or vala, or anything
[07:28] <bhavesh> oh... got it now..
[07:28] <bhavesh> I thought u code in xml -.-
[07:29] <ohsix> vala is good to play up since it uses gobject introspection for its bindings, and trickles down to C code
[07:29] <red2kic> rww: Eighteen months?
[07:29] <rww> red2kic: Non-LTS releases are supported for 18 months from release, yes.
[07:30] <raven_> how to disable fsck at startup? it hangs up every time i start and i checked it every time
[07:30] <red2kic> rww: Surely, you mean every six months!
[07:30] <rww> red2kic: A new release comes out every six months. Each (non-LTS) release is supported for eighteen months.
[07:31] <red2kic> rww: Right. Scroll up and look what you said. I was just pointing it out. Sleep more. :)
[07:31] <ohsix> raven_: something is probably quite wrong if that's the case; and if it is you wouldn't want to skip it D:
[07:32] <pfifo> red2kic, im reaading the statment as true
[07:32] <rww> red2kic: I'm not sure what you're talking about.
[07:32] <raven_> ohsix, with previous systems there were no problems
[07:32] <bin_bash> Is natty supposed to be an LTS?
[07:32] <rww> bin_bash: no. The next LTS will probably be 12.04.
[07:32] <ohsix> raven_: the previous systems didn't contain the disk with the trouble, did they?
[07:32] <bin_bash> boo
[07:32] <bin_bash> I can't use 10.04
[07:32] <red2kic> rww: "DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: Depends what you're doing. In general, I'd say 10.04,  because it's LTS. LTS releases only need to be updated every three  years instead of every eighteen months.
[07:32] <raven_> ohsix, on the same disk
[07:33] <red2kic> bin_bash: Why not?
[07:33] <bin_bash> not supported for this hardware
[07:33] <rww> red2kic: Yes, and?
[07:33] <bin_bash> took me 6 hours to get natty installed
[07:33] <ohsix> red2kic: you don't have to update anything, it's just about maintenance status
[07:33] <red2kic> rww: Every three years intead of every eigteen months? It's same. :)
[07:33] <rww> red2kic: eighteen months is 1.5 years
[07:33] <ohsix> red2kic: after the support period is over you won't get software/security updates
[07:34] <red2kic> Oh I undestand it now. EOL.
[07:34] <pfifo> me too
[07:34] <red2kic> rww: Ah. And I thought I spot a mistake. Sorry. :P
[07:35] <rww> red2kic: No problem. And I do need to sleep more anyway ;P
[07:36] <raven_> ohsix, how to disable this
[07:36] <ohsix> raven_: you find out what the problem is and correct it
[07:37] <raven_> ohsix, i corrected it evry time
[07:37] <ohsix> raven_: then it shouldn't be trying to fsck it
[07:37] <red2kic> bin_bash: Six hours? Slow machine or slow download?
[07:37] <raven_> ohsix, how to disable it
[07:37] <bin_bash> red2kic:  i couldn't get it to read the CD, then it couldn't install grub, so then i had to delete all the partitions
[07:38] <bin_bash> brand new computer
[07:38] <bin_bash> hardware not supported fully
[07:38] <red2kic> bin_bash: You only have one CD reader? My machine is a tad weird. I use the second CD reader to install stuffs.
[07:38] <bin_bash> it's a laptop there's no room for more than oine
[07:39] <bin_bash> I had to boot natty with a livecd and a liveusb
[07:39] <Blue1> bin_bash: did you md5sum check the download to make sure you had a good download?
[07:39] <bin_bash> of course
[07:39] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> i need an operating system
[07:39] <pfifo> raven_, to disable filesystem checks at startup you change the last number in /etc/fstap to a 0 on the line for the disk you are intrested in
[07:39] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> for my new pc
[07:39] <raven_> pfifo, tnx
[07:39] <bin_bash> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD:  install gentoo
[07:40] <pfifo> raven_, /etc/fstab
[07:40] <ohsix> pfifo: :[
[07:41] <pfifo> ohsix, it sounds like his filesystem is not being marked as clean by the check
[07:41] <ohsix> or theres another problem
[07:42] <ohsix> if it were just that it'd just be highly unlikely; but if it were something else, not so much
 there are this many Linux OS for you : <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD>
[07:42] <bhavesh> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Gldt1009.svg
[07:42] <bhavesh> that chart is awesome
[07:42] <Starminn> bhavesh: Nice
[07:43] <red2kic> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: Debian is really rock solid OS -- You wouldn't break anything -- Just stick with the repo and don't go for bleeding edges.
[07:44] <ohsix> even the bleeding edge in debian (and ubuntu) is pretty darn nice
[07:44] <ohsix> it's really the difference between you wanting to file bugs at all or not
[07:44] <bhavesh> I dont understand gentoo website says it can be optimized for any application?
[07:45] <ohsix> they mean "as applied" like to a kiosk or something, not applications in it
[07:46] <pfifo> bhavesh, yeah it can, if you want to make a dwarf_fortress based distro gentoo would allow you
[07:46] <ohsix> it's not like it's a unique feature or anything; and it isn't really a decisive one as far as picking among a bunch of options either
[07:46] <guge1234> which country are U in?
[07:47] <red2kic> The country that sings The Star-Spangled Banner.
[07:51] <plum> uh oh
[07:52] <plum> i left gparted open while it was working and expanding a partition of mine
[07:52] <plum> turned in some tax papers, and when i got back just now, gparted isn't open anymore
[07:52] <plum> i try to open it but it doesn't open
[07:53] <plum> am i screwed? i can't tell if it worked :(
[07:53] <bin_bash> open it again
[07:53] <bin_bash> and see
 i try to open it but it doesn't open
[07:53] <bin_bash> didn't see that
[07:53] <plum> x]
[07:53] <bin_bash> run top
[07:53] <plum> huh?
[07:54] <bin_bash> open a terminal
[07:54] <bin_bash> and type "top"
[07:54] <plum> alright, i see a bunch of things similar to a task manager
[07:54] <bin_bash> okay
[07:55] <plum> no gparted in those though
[07:55] <bin_bash> okay
[07:55] <bin_bash> open up a new terminal
[07:55] <bin_bash> and try "sudo killall gparted"
[07:55] <plum> okay...
[07:55] <bin_bash> tell me what output you get
[07:55] <plum> will that kill any disk operations it's doing? i don't want to nuke my other partitions D:
[07:55] <bin_bash> hmm
[07:55] <bin_bash> okay
[07:55] <bin_bash> try instead typing "gparted" into a terminal
[07:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:56] <bin_bash> hey there ShapeShifter499
[07:56] <plum> i did that bin_bash
[07:56] <plum> it says
[07:56] <plum> Backtrace has 15 calls on stack
[07:56] <pfifo> try `ps aux | grep gparted`
[07:56] <sb_lap> hi, quick question
[07:57] <ShapeShifter499> can someone explain why a local wired (router connected) file transfer between two computers is slowing down my internet speed
[07:57] <plum> pfifo: it says... root     13007  0.0  0.0   4008   760 pts/1    S+   23:56   0:00 grep gparted
[07:57] <pfifo> plum, it appears gparted exited, possibly abnormally
[07:58] <plum> i can't open it again cause it just closes... :/
[07:58] <plum> should i try the sudo killall?
[07:58] <bin_bash> try gparted -l
[07:58] <bin_bash> where l is lowercase L
[07:58] <pfifo> plum, killall wont do anything
[07:58] <plum> wow
[07:58] <plum> it started it with gparted -l
[07:58] <plum> :D
[07:58] <plum> now it says No devices detected at the bottom bar of gparted though
[07:59] <bin_bash> hmm
[07:59] <sb_lap> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 x64
[07:59] <plum> even when i refresh devices
[07:59] <Raisor> ShapeShifter: maybe QOS set to high between those two computers causing it to use the bandwidth
[07:59] <sb_lap> apt-get installed firefox 4
[07:59] <sb_lap> and now flash videos don't have any sound
[07:59] <bin_bash> plum:  which release are you using?
[08:00] <plum> bin_bash: 10.10
[08:00] <plum> ohhh of gparted?
[08:00] <bin_bash> no
[08:00] <plum> or ubuntu?
[08:01] <plum> i'm using gparted 0.6.2
[08:01] <bin_bash> are you using a live disk?
[08:01] <plum> naw, i'm on an install
[08:01] <bin_bash> okay open a terminal and try fdisk -l where l is lowecase L
[08:02] <plum> i have three partitions on my /dev/sda disk, they look like they moved and resized properly
[08:03] <plum> ^ according to fdisk
[08:03] <sb_lap> ah cripes
[08:03] <sb_lap> actually I have no sound at all in firefox 4
[08:03] <bin_bash> plum:  okay
[08:04] <Afteraffekt> what dock on ubuntu looks, acts, and feels just like mac os's dock?
[08:04] <plum> should i reboot and see if it worked okay, knowing that i might be screwed? or should i keep trying to get gparted to see my disks?
[08:04] <bin_bash> i reckon there's a program called docky
[08:04] <Afteraffekt> docky doesnt quite do it
[08:05] <Afteraffekt> there was one, that was nearly identicle, but cant remember the name
[08:05] <pfifo> plum, it may have just written that info to the partition table, you shouldn't count on it, i would run a file system scan on any existing file systems
[08:05] <crackguy> on a server with a 4 core 1 x Intel CPU 2.67GHz, what is the maximum number of VMs a Citrix XenServer can run without any major performance issues?
[08:05] <plum> pfifo: how would i go about running the file system scan?
[08:05] <kazagistar> Afteraffekt: have you tried Awn? I use it instead of gnome panel
[08:06] <pfifo> plum, e2fsck for ext2/3/4
[08:06] <Afteraffekt> kazagistar, awn doesnt have the eye candy that mac os has
[08:06] <bin_bash> Afteraffekt:  then use Mac OS
[08:06] <Afteraffekt> im a broke foo
[08:06] <kazagistar> hmm? must have updated it since I used OSX 10.5 then
[08:06] <bin_bash> *coughcoughtorrentcoughcough*
[08:07] <rhizmoe> hey, rhythmbox just started downloading a podcast on its own for the first time. good show
[08:07] <pfifo> !p2p
[08:07] <plum> looks like my ubuntu /boot partition is okay
[08:07] <Linux-IRC> how can i add panel , it's 11.04 ,
[08:07] <plum> that is the only one that's ext though
[08:07] <plum> is there a way to scan ntfs/hfs+ partitions as well?
[08:07] <Linux-IRC> bottom panel
[08:08] <kazagistar> awn has cool bouncy/scaling icons, but also plugins like date/time and notification areas and menus
[08:08] <Nomadicus> Hello, what is a program that I can use to configure boot options.  Specifically what I want to do is: select a different kernel so that I won't have to press f3 at boot.  I had installed a program that was intended for this purpose on a different machine some time ago, but have since forgotten what it was titled.
[08:08] <Starminn> Afteraffekt: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/you-choose-the-best-dock-for-ubuntu-poll/
[08:08] <pfifo> plum, im not sure maybe someone else knows
[08:09] <plum> ah okay
[08:09] <plum> well
[08:09] <plum> i think i will try rebooting... says updates need me to reboot anyway
[08:09] <plum> crossing fingers!  thanks a bunch everyone for the help though :)
[08:11] <icedtea> anyone know what the command is to bring up the kde control panel?
[08:12] <crackguy> on a server with a 4 core 1 x Intel CPU 2.67GHz, what is the maximum number of VMs a Citrix XenServer can run without any major performance issues?
[08:12] <pfifo> K-Lined
[08:14] <bin_bash> who go klined
[08:14] <bin_bash> s/go/got/
[08:14] <pfifo> that guy that just asked about VMs
[08:14] <pfifo> * crackguy has quit (K-Lined)
[08:14] <bin_bash> lol why?
[08:15] <pfifo> i dont think youll get a kline for anything less than breaking network rules
[08:16] <bin_bash> i didnt know VMs were agains network rules
[08:16] <bin_bash> inb4 kline
[08:16] <ShapeShifter499> I can connect just fine with all my computers to a wep protected router except my powerbook g4... why is that? am I missing something?
[08:16] <ShapeShifter499> this powerbook g4 has ubuntu 10.04
[08:17] <pfifo> he probbally was in another chan and got banned, then evaded, or cussed someone out
[08:17] <bin_bash> mmyea
[08:17] <Nomadicus> icedtea: systemsettings -caption "%c" %i
[08:18] <bin_bash> ShapeShifter499:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedArchitectures#PowerPC
[08:20] <billy_> where do I find a list of the packages available on ppa?
[08:20] <ShapeShifter499> bin_bash, um...
[08:21] <helpme4> can someone help me on how to change ubuntu into windows style?
[08:21] <ShapeShifter499> that still doesn't help me
[08:21] <red2kic> helpme4: Install Windows.
[08:21] <Wings> helpme4: why do you need to do that?
[08:22] <helpme4> well really i just wanna get rid of the menu on the left
[08:22] <DNX> :)
[08:22] <ShapeShifter499> red2kic, thats a horrid idea if you don't need to
[08:22] <helpme4> or turn it into a drop down
[08:22] <ShapeShifter499> helpme4 oh.. like everything in one menu?
[08:22] <ShapeShifter499> just like start
[08:22] <helpme4> yeah like the start menu in windows
[08:22] <Afteraffekt> Starminn, thanks! found it! was called cairo!
[08:23] <red2kic> ShapeShifter499: Installing Windows theme to confuse people is a terrible idea too. :\
[08:23] <red2kic> helpme4: Right-click on the panel. Add Menu.
[08:23] <ShapeShifter499> red2kic, not really... install wine1.3 along with it and not too many will notice :p
[08:23] <skpl> helpme4: google mintmenu
[08:27] <jiltdil> is there any way to enlarge the size of text in F1-F6 mode ?
[08:29] <ShapeShifter499> red2kic, any Linux  to look like windows and be able to run windows stuff too is a #epicwin considering (afaik) Linux isn't MS
[08:35] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> need help
[08:35] <Afteraffekt> whats up
[08:36] <Afteraffekt> lol - saying you need help doesnt get you help =]
[08:37] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> 10.04 10.10 ?
[08:37] <Afteraffekt> yes, the two current versions of ubuntu
[08:37] <Afteraffekt> how may i help you
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD, go with 10.04
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> more stable
[08:38] <Sugi> Hello all, I am having issues maximizing windows/applications on triple monitor setup.  Using Separate X [xinerama] + twinview.  I had it working prefectly with maximizing on dual monitor setup. :S ubuntu 10.10 x64 / nvidia
[08:38] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, whats the problem maximizing?
[08:40] <Sugi> Sorry, I didn't explain myself. It's maximizing to two monitors, instead of the just one screen. Though, It does not maximize to "xinerama screen" [This is ok].  But I would like to maximize a window / applications to that given screens, one given screen.
[08:40] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Forgot your name input
[08:40] <Afteraffekt> are each screen extensions, or are any clones?
[08:41] <Sugi> If I understand you correctly, they are extensions...
[08:41] <Afteraffekt> theres possibly a setting that tells it to maximize to just one - all i can think of
[08:41] <debd> !tab
[08:42] <Afteraffekt> ive never done more than two
[08:42] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> how long can i use 10.04 ?
[08:42] <Afteraffekt> debd, we know...
[08:42] <debd> Afteraffekt: I know that you know
[08:42] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Well, this problem happens on dual screens as well.  Would you know how to go about fixing it?
[08:43] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, in the application that i used, it was an option to choose
[08:43] <kwtm> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: 10.04 will be supported for 3 years (5 years if you use the server edition, usually for more specialized users).  I'm using 10.04 myself and don't plan to upgrade until the next Long-Term Support edition, due in 2012.
[08:43] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Ohh, do you also use wine?  Right now, that's mine problem.
[08:43] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, so wine is expanding to two screens?
[08:44] <kwtm> DASDDSDSDADSAEGD: Hmm, your choice of nickname seems hard to remember, full of capital letters, and seems to have been chosen in a hurry.  Couldn't think of a suitable nick?
[08:44] <heyguise> I feel like an idiot asking this question. But how do i change my clock? I went into "Change system time" and did that but when ever i reboot it goes back
[08:45] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, sorry i couldnt be of more help
[08:46] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Also, I could post my xorg, the old xorg was working on dual monitor setup, but now, triple monitors is having issues with maxizing.  Also a quick note, dual monitor, maxizing worked on one screen with twinview, but now, xinerama maxizing works on that screen, bu the twinview setup set to one video is now currently not working, as it maxizes to both screens of twinview instead of one.
[08:46] <DASDDSDSDADSAEGD> ok
[08:46] <xekap> hi all
[08:46] <damno> heyguise: did you try from the clock applet in the gnome panel?
[08:46] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: And yes, wine is treating my twinview as one huge resolution. :S
[08:47] <heyguise> damno yeah
[08:47] <twkmm> ^^
[08:47] <twkmm> damno ^5
[08:47] <heyguise> i think its set to automatically get the time, but i have it set for the wrong time zone. but im not sure how to change the time zone.
[08:47] <Zombik1> hi!, how would one create an USB stick which boots multiple versions of the ubuntu iso, but keeps the menus of the CDs?
[08:47] <damno> heyguise: changed the time from therer?
[08:47] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, wine is a beast of itself, i really dont know from here, unless theres configuration of twinview/xinerama
[08:47] <damno> heyguise: and still doesnt work?
[08:48] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Ok, thanks anyways.
[08:48] <Afteraffekt> Sugi, I tried man lol, even googled the problem
[08:49] <Sugi> Afteraffekt: Ya, I have been googling this beast for the last couple of hours.  Though, I guess I am just lucky to get triple monitors working XD
[08:49] <damno> whoa
[08:49] <debi> i'am new ubuntu user
[08:50] <damno> debi: nice nick ;)
[08:50] <Fudge> hi if a init script is failing would that stop a runlevel form changing? from 2 to 5
[08:50] <debi> thank u damno
[08:51] <damno> debi: welcome
[08:51] <afghan> Hi everyone !
[08:52] <damno> how can I remove unnecessary items from the places drop-down menu?
[08:53] <Sugi> Does anyone know why I am having maxizing issues with multiple monitor setup, I want it to maxize to just one screen, instead across both.
[08:53] <kesor> How do i know if i have a i686-based or x86-64 computer??
[08:53] <Ben64> kesor: look up the cpu
[08:54] <kesor> Ben64 how?
[08:54] <Ben64> kesor: you don't know what cpu you have? try running "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i model"
[08:55] <^NiNjA> Sugi,  are you cloning your desktop to another monitor?
[08:55] <mithran> hi all, how can i create another user with super user privileges in ubuntu?
[08:55] <Ben64> mithran: that could be dangerous, why would you want to?
[08:55] <plum> :(
[08:56] <^NiNjA> agreed
[08:56] <mithran> Ben64: just as an experiment, ill delete it right afterwards, i promise :)
[08:56] <plum> my bootloader parition got obliterated apparently
[08:56] <fairuz> hi
[08:56] <plum> and in trying to restore it, now my gparted doesn't show any partitions
[08:56] <plum> on /dev/sda
[08:57] <plum> is all my data lost? i had three fine partitions on that
[08:57] <Ben64> plum: i suppose it's possible your drive died
[08:57] <^NiNjA> mithran,  if you have the root password you can sudo most things you need to do
[08:57] <fairuz>  Hi, I have a weird problem. When I open gedit. It give me this on the console.  Giterdone: loading vcs interface GitInterface. And after that gedit hangs, and in htop i see some git process runnings. Is this normal? I tried to reinstall gedit but no luck
[08:57] <Sugi> ^NiNjA: I am using SeparateX on gpu1, and twinview on gpu0. So, nope.
[08:57] <damno> kesor: run :   uname -a
[08:57] <kazagistar> mithran: make the user, then set their privileges using the Advanced Settings button, all from the user settings menu
[08:58] <plum> Ben64: is there any way you know that i can attempt to recover my partitions?
[08:58] <kesor> damno: 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:58] <Ben64> plum: parted might be able to
[08:58] <^NiNjA> Sugi,  You running an SLI or Crossfire?
[08:58] <plum> Ben64: how?
[08:58] <kesor> damno: hehehehe i see it now myself , nvm
[08:58] <kesor> lol
[08:59] <damno> kesor: there you get it: i686 GNU/Linux
[08:59] <damno> kesor: there you get it: i686 GNU/Linux
[08:59] <Ben64> plum:   rescue START END                         rescue a lost partition near START
[08:59] <Ben64> in the parted help
[08:59] <damno> kesor: lol
[08:59] <Sugi> ^NiNjA: I am not running sli, just two video cards. geforce gtx 260 and gt 430
[08:59] <mithran> ^NiNjA:  i am trying to create a user, so that when i try to do an administrative task, it will prompt me for my password...root will not prompt right? kazagistar: after making the user, how can i use visudo to give the user sudo privileges?
[09:00] <ZShock> good evening
[09:00] <plum> Ben64: i don't see that, how did you get to it?
[09:00] <Ben64> mithran: why can't you do that on the normal user with gksudo?
[09:00] <plum> under Help i only see Contents and About
[09:00] <Ben64> plum: run parted, type "help" for help
[09:00] <feng>  how do I unplug usb drive in ubuntu?
[09:01] <Ben64> plum: i'm talking about the command line parted
[09:01] <plum> ah from terminal
[09:01] <plum> sorry my bad :(
[09:01] <mithran> Ben64: in that case which users password will i have to enter?
[09:01] <Ben64> mithran: the current user
[09:01] <mithran> Ben64: without him being a sudoer?
[09:01] <Ben64> he'd have to be in sudoers
[09:01] <manish_ditiss> help on hpc kestrel package on ubuntu
[09:02] <imran-uk> does anyone know why, in ubuntu desktop, my local dns zone does not work properly. so if i have a zone foo.local, pinging the a rec for www.foo.local does not work but pinging www does?
[09:02] <manish_ditiss> dnsmasq error
[09:02] <imran-uk> manish_ditiss, is that to me?
[09:02] <Sugi> I am having issues maximizing windows/applications on triple monitor setup.  Using Separate X [xinerama] + twinview.  I had it working prefectly with maximizing on dual monitor setup. :S ubuntu 10.10 x64 / nvidia
[09:02] <Sugi> (02時38分49秒) Afteraffekt: Sugi, whats the problem maximizing?
[09:02] <plum> Ben64: if i enter gparted into terminal, it launches the app
[09:02] <^NiNjA> mithran,  im not sure if i can help you here. the password prompt is a security feature to ensure only ssomeone with root or allowed privelages can make system changes
[09:03] <plum> and i can't type help into it anywhere :/
[09:03] <Ben64> plum: ........ parted
[09:03] <plum> ah
[09:03] <plum> sorry
[09:03] <plum> :(
[09:03] <Ben64> plum: the g is for gui*
[09:03] <ZShock> im having some problems with my computer's mbr, can someone gimme a hand?
[09:03] <Fudge> anyone familiar much with inittab
[09:03] <AnotherTest> I need a channel for help on C++... Anyone know one?
[09:03] <plum> Ben64: alright, i got to help
[09:03] <damno> Ben64: what does parted do? I mean what it's used for?
[09:03] <manish_ditiss> imran-uk, have u idea about that
[09:03] <plum> what do i need to do now?
[09:03] <Ben64> damno: partitioning and stuff
[09:04] <Ben64> !grub | ZShock
[09:04] <ZShock> thank you
[09:04] <imran-uk> manish_ditiss, i do, let me try disabling it
[09:04] <^NiNjA> Sugi,  not sure how you are running to cards without a crossfire or SLI setup. so best to let someone else take your issue  sorry man but im not familiar with your setup
[09:05] <ZShock> Ben64 I've tried everything listed but I can't get it to work..
[09:05] <Ben64> ZShock: well whats the problem you're having?
[09:05] <plum> Ben64: before my disks disappeared, i had tried to do a dd if= something something of = /dev/sda
[09:05] <plum> do you think i can recover this from parted?
[09:05] <Ben64> plum: O_O why would you do that
[09:05] <plum> Ben64: i had the files for my bootloader... some online guide told me to :<
[09:05] <ZShock> Ben64: can you read a forum post I've made? I think I'll be able to show faster that way
[09:06] <manish_ditiss> imran-uk, if i disable it hpc child node is state less
[09:06] <Ben64> plum: can you find exactly what you did?
[09:06] <Sugi> ^NiNjA: Not a problem, just a note you don't need sli or crossfire to get multiple monitors. As my setup proves this. :D  Though, I was wondering, does this same problem exist with sli or crossfire, is there a fix with that or working out-of-box?
[09:06] <plum> i was trying to overwrite the mbr
[09:06] <xekap> exit
[09:06] <Ben64> plum: like... is it still in the bash history or anything?
[09:06] <manish_ditiss> imran-uk, i mean 2 say image is not working
[09:06] <plum> it's not, but i have the link so i know what it is
[09:06] <damno> plum: that shold be in the auth.log
[09:06] <plum> like i know what i did
[09:06] <damno> in general
[09:06] <plum> i'm in a live boot right now
[09:07] <Ben64> plum: well lemme see the page then
[09:07] <Ben64> did you type it in correctly?
[09:07] <imran-uk> manish_ditiss, sorry i thought you were saying "dnsmasq error" as a solution to my probs. cant help right now, sorry
[09:07] <plum> Ben64: http://inportb.com/2010/07/18/%EF%BB%BFinstalling-chameleon-using-linux/
[09:07] <manish_ditiss> its ok
[09:08] <plum> aw dang
[09:08] <plum> should've read the print
[09:08] <plum> "this will clean your harddrive dadada"
[09:08] <AnotherTest> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and I wonder if it's normal there are no icons in the System menu?
[09:08] <manish_ditiss> kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:08] <Ben64> plum: did you do the fdisk stuff too?
[09:08] <plum> no i didn't do that stuff, i just did the dd if... stuff
[09:08] <fairuz> Hi, how to reset gedit's config or setting?
[09:08] <plum> then rebooted, bad idea
[09:08] <ZShock> Ben64: can you read this one post for me? it has everything ive done til the moment
[09:09] <Ben64> ZShock: ok
[09:09] <ZShock> Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1732281
[09:09] <Ben64> plum: stuff is probably still there then
[09:09] <plum> Ben64: how can i get it to be seen by gparted again? :(
[09:09] <plum> cause i'm sure i didn't delete anything
[09:09] <Ben64> plum: why would you do that to a hard drive though? it seems like its supposed to be done on a usb
[09:10] <manish_ditiss> http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:10] <Sugi> I am having issues maximizing windows/applications on triple monitor setup.  Using Separate X [xinerama] + twinview.  I had it working prefectly with maximizing on dual monitor setup. :S ubuntu 10.10 x64 / nvidia
[09:10] <kwtmm> need help
[09:10] <ohsix> Sugi: complain to nvidia for not supporting xrandr
[09:10] <manish_ditiss> need help on http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:10] <kwtmm> need help
[09:10] <plum> Ben64: i think it's meant to be done to a hard drive, i did it successfully from my osx partition a while ago to save it
[09:10] <ohsix> Sugi: you could try nouveau too
[09:11] <plum> might have been switched to GPT by gparted though
[09:11] <kwtmm> need help
[09:11] <Ben64> plum: mess around with parted and the rescue command, see if you can get partitions back
[09:11] <kazagistar> !ask
[09:12] <^NiNjA> Sugi,  I have a dual head card. Its not two CPU's though despite what AMD/ATI likes to imply
[09:12] <kesor> my CD-ROM button dont work, whats the command to open it??
[09:12] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: i've never heard anyone imply that
[09:12] <mar> Hello. I'm having problems with multi-monitor setup with newest beta. Screen external screen flickers and etc... Is it something I need to do after upgrade before I report a bug?
[09:12] <manish_ditiss> imran-uk,create A record & Zone name
[09:12] <kwtmm> need help
[09:13] <Sugi> nouveau, Never heard of it. Does it control applications within the x?
[09:13] <ohsix> mar: #ubuntu+1 for natty support
[09:13] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:13] <mar> ohsix:  ok
[09:13] <ohsix> Sugi: no, it's an open source nvidia driver
[09:13] <^NiNjA> AMD software shows the head as separate giving a false impression that they are hardware independent
[09:13] <plum> Ben64: how do i know where to end in rescue...?
[09:13] <Sugi> ^NiNjA: I am currently using dual heads on my 260 right now as well.
[09:13] <kesor> my CD-ROM button dont work, whats the command to open it??
[09:13] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: there are multiple crtcs
[09:14] <Ben64> plum: do you know how your partitions were set up?
[09:14] <ohsix> and they're only loosely dependent
[09:14] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:14] <plum> what do you mean? mbr or gpt?
[09:14] <^NiNjA> ohsix,  regardless to a new user it can give the false impression
[09:14] <Ben64> plum: like how big your partitions were, and where on the disk
[09:15] <plum> i know around what size but not exact
[09:15] <plum> :/
[09:15] <Ben64> doesnt need to be exact
[09:15] <^NiNjA> Sugi,  so you run two cards, one at least with dual heads?
[09:15] <plum> my windows was 210gb ish
[09:15] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: a new user with the idea of the false premise that they're separate gpus
[09:15] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:15] <Ben64> plum: rescue start end      Rescue  a  lost  partition  that  was  located  somewhere   between  start  and end.
[09:15] <kwtmm> i need produtive os
[09:15] <acrocity> quit
[09:15] <Ben64> plum: see the 'somewhere'  :D
[09:15] <plum> ahh nice
[09:16] <kwtmm> hello guys
[09:16] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:16] <kwtmm> i need produtive os
[09:16] <plum> so i should do Start: 0 End: 210 ?
[09:16] <fairuz> http://pastebin.com/4hGxe80M  ... Any idea why gedit run git processes?
[09:16] <plum> or should it be like 210000
[09:16] <Sugi> Yep as following, gt 430 - Left Screen [separate X]. gtx 260 - Center Center [MAIN] and Right Center [twinview]
[09:16] <Ben64> plum: its in megabytes
[09:16] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:16] <kwtmm> i need produtive os
[09:17] <Ben64> kwtm: 10.04
[09:17] <^NiNjA> ohsix,  in my AMD CCC software if i use the overclock feature it gives me an option on which GPU, this again is a base lie there is only one GPU on my card.
[09:17] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: you might have 2 gpus, some amd cards do
[09:17] <ohsix> it has nothing to do with the outputs
[09:18] <ohsix> some nvidia cards do too, but they're bridged differently
[09:18] <ohsix> fairuz: why bash? probably a plugin
[09:18] <^NiNjA> Mine does not but the option still shows. doesnt work but it shows
[09:18] <kwtmm> wait a minute before helping me
[09:18] <kwtmm> must do an excretion/ a metabolite
[09:18] <plum> it found my windows partition Ben64 ! :D
[09:18] <fairuz> ohsix: any way to reset this setting or config? deleting a config file maybe?
[09:19] <Ben64> plum: boo windows :P
[09:19] <kwtmm> i must to toilette, do an good excretion or metabolite
[09:19] <plum> hahahahaha i need it for school :(
[09:19] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: sounds like a bug, can you interact with it? or is it just visible but disabled
[09:19] <ohsix> fairuz: try the options
[09:19] <kwtmm> i must to toilette, do an good excretion or metabolite
[09:19] <Ben64> !repeat | kwtmm
[09:19] <fairuz> ohsix: my gedit hangs now, I cant do nothing
[09:20] <plum> it's not finding my other two... bummer
[09:20] <ohsix> fairuz: /apps/gedit-2 in gconf, try gconf-editor
[09:20] <fairuz> ohsix: ok
[09:20] <Ben64> plum: maybe you said too big for windows?
[09:21] <Sugi> I am having issues maximizing windows/applications on triple monitor setup.  Using Separate X [xinerama] + twinview.  2 gpu setup right now, not sli. :S ubuntu 10.10 x64 / nvidia
[09:21] <plum> Ben64: Information: A ntfs primary partition was found at 32.3kB -> 204GB.  Do you want to add it to the partition table?
[09:21] <Sugi> ohsix: hahaha, I just read your comment.  I second that!
[09:21] <^NiNjA> ohsix,  its just the way AMD software shows the separate outputs. It even shows both as having 512 of memory, but The card only has 512 of memeory total
[09:21] <plum> that was my windows, i tried starting at 203000 and its not finding anytrhing else
[09:21] <Ben64> plum: how big is the drive
[09:22] <plum> Ben64: 250gb
[09:22] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: well it's no conspiracy to get you to say silly things on irc, it's a bug; report it
[09:22] <Ben64> keep changing the numbers, it's not perfect at finding stuff
[09:22] <^NiNjA> ohsix,  its the same way in windows as well
[09:22] <Kartagis> how do I find out what my sshd version is?
[09:22] <plum> k
[09:22] <Ben64> plum: did you just have one ubuntu partition? or a couple?
[09:23] <^NiNjA> and only on AMD CCC software
[09:23] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: what card do you have?
[09:23] <Ben64> Kartagis: ssh -v
[09:23] <^NiNjA> its an AMD software issue
[09:23] <Ben64> Kartagis: sshd -v **
[09:23] <plum> Ben64: i had my ubuntu /boot partition (grub) on /dev/sda but my ubuntu files are on /dev/sdb1
[09:23] <^NiNjA> ATI 2600 pro 512
[09:23] <plum> long story
[09:23] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: i thought it was a conspiracy to get everyone to think there are multiple gpus?
[09:23] <Ben64> plum: which drive got messed up?
[09:24] <plum>  /dev/sda
[09:24] <^NiNjA> lol no just how I worded it
[09:24] <Ben64> plum: what else was on /dev/sda besides windows and /boot?
[09:24] <plum> Ben64: my osx partition was on it
[09:24] <ohsix> it says that card does crossfire
[09:24] <^NiNjA> not a conspiracy by AMD just a deliberate bit of BS they throw in
[09:24] <plum> last i saw of it though, it was "unknown" format according to gparted
[09:25] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: you just said it's not a conpsiracy, it is a conspiracy
[09:25] <plum> cause gparted decided to exit itself while moving all of my partitions around
[09:25] <Ben64> plum: well thats not too bad... /boot is probably small? so select a small range to recover
[09:25] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: ccc probably thinks you have crossfire for some reason; find out why
[09:25] <plum> true, i'll look in smaller ranges
[09:26] <^NiNjA> ohsix, honestly it does not cause any problems
[09:26] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: but it's a bug
[09:26] <^NiNjA> not in ubuntu
[09:26] <ohsix> it caused me problems personally, only just recently though
[09:26] <^NiNjA> or debian
[09:26] <ohsix> bummer
[09:27] <kwtmm> i must to toilette, do an good excretion or metabolite
[09:27] <Ben64> !language | kwtmm
[09:28] <fairuz> ohsix: can i delete the gedit-2 folder so it can create a new one?
[09:28] <^NiNjA> this has been the same way since i got the card. in windows or linux CCC just choses to show two heads that way
[09:28] <fairuz> or it will not create a new one ? :D
[09:28] <plum> Ben64: i think i'll have to recreate the partition
[09:28] <ohsix> fairuz: you can recursively unset it
[09:28] <plum> as long as i have my windows files intact though i think it will be fine
[09:28] <ohsix> !resetpanel | fairuz uz
[09:28] <ohsix> ^ just change the key
[09:29] <ohsix> ^NiNjA: it's a conspiracy or it's a bug, if it's a bug report it
[09:30] <fairuz> ohsix: it works. thanks
[09:31] <jiltdil> how to increase or decrese font size in termonal mode F1-F6?
[09:31] <awan> hi
[09:31] <plum> ok well i'm gonna try rebooting
[09:31] <plum> thank you Ben64
[09:32] <plum> i'll cya later
[09:32] <awan> i'm newbie here...
[09:32] <ohsix> jiltdil: /etc/default/console-setup change the font & size
[09:32] <kwtmm> i must to toilette, do an good excretion or metabolite
[09:32] <awan> great to meet you all..
[09:32] <jiltdil> ohsix:thanx
[09:33] <Sugi> I am having issues maximizing windows/applications on triple monitor setup.  Using Separate X [xinerama] + twinview.  2 gpu setup right now, not sli. :S ubuntu 10.10 x64 / nvidia  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10690096#post10690096
[09:33] <kwtmm> i must to toilette, do an good excretion or metabolite
[09:34] <awan> i have join ubuntu...
[09:34] <awan> using cloud
[09:34] <kwtmm> !ask | awan
[09:34] <awan> asl pls
[09:35] <kwtmm> !question | awan
[09:35] <ashmew2> awan: this isnt a chat room of Yahoo or something. ASL ?..
[09:36] <ashmew2> !seen ashmew2
[09:36] <kwtmm> i need produtive os
[09:36] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[09:36] <ashmew2> what is the seen command for this channel ?
[09:36] <ashmew2> kwtmm: what exactly do u need ?
[09:36] <kwtmm> i need help
[09:37] <iceroot> ashmew2: there is no seen here
[09:37] <ashmew2> kwtmm: I know that lol. I meant , is there some specific set of applications that you are looking for ?
[09:37] <ashmew2> iceroot: something similar ?
[09:37] <kwtmm> oh i do pidgin and libreoffice but the thing is
[09:37] <iceroot> ashmew2: no
[09:37] <_zoom_> hi, is there any available in ubuntu that might help building software webstore?
[09:37] <ashmew2> iceroot: k thx
[09:37] <ohsix> Sugi: twinview fakes xinerama information so what you're asking should work; twinview is a mess though
[09:38] <kwtmm> Ubuntu 10.10 identifies my PC right
[09:38] <kwtmm> 10.04 wrong,
[09:38] <kwtmm>  
[09:38] <ashmew2> _zoom_ : you want to open up a webstore for selling Linux applications ?
[09:38] <ashmew2> kwtmm: So , whats the problem in using 10.10
[09:38] <ohsix> Sugi: with nouveau and xrandr the monitor applet should work just like you expect, no creating your own xorg.conf
[09:38] <kwtmm> 10.10 say by installing as my computer name "desktop-EL1850" EL1850 >> its the type of my pc !!
[09:38] <kwtmm> but 10.04 dont say so, it only "desktop"
[09:38] <ohsix> Sugi: you really should be talking to nvidia or their forums for information on how to make it work otherwise
[09:38] <hiddensoul> Sugi, try xrandr that might be what you are looking for, I have had 4 screens running at one time with that
[09:39] <_zoom_> ashmew2: no other application, linux will be host of webstore
[09:39] <Sugi> ohsix: Ya, I had it working with my dual-monitor setup perfectly.  In this link, I posted the same problem, but it includes my working xorg or the current non-working xorg. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1732298
[09:39] <ohsix> hiddensoul: the nvidia binary drivers don't do xrandr
[09:39] <kwtmm> but it doenst matter, i think
[09:39] <hiddensoul> they dont, bummer
[09:39] <ashmew2> kwtmm: i am pretty sure that's not how you make sure if the system is identified.
[09:39] <kwtmm> ok
[09:39] <kwtmm> yes i agree , so what do you recommend me, ashmew2, which ubuntu version
[09:39] <ohsix> xrandr 4 lyf
[09:39] <kwtmm> I have got ordered KDE and gnome CDS, only ubuntu 10.10 32 bit
[09:39] <kwtmm> but i can download it !!
[09:40] <ashmew2> _zoom_ : By webstore you mean you want to set up some sort of dedicated linux server with your shop's database or something ?
[09:40] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Give 10.10 a try (Live session)...Do you have any pen drives/thumb drives with you ?
[09:40] <Sugi> hiddensoul: Oh wow, I was under the impression getting multiple monitors working with xrandr was impossible or darn never close to it.  Do you have any documention you went off of to complete this task?
[09:40] <kwtmm> yes
[09:41] <slueth> Do they have the ubuntu 11 cds yet?
[09:41] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Download the ISO from download.ubuntu.com , make a live USB / live CD..Give it a spi
[09:41] <ashmew2> n
[09:41] <kwtmm> the other thing is ashmew2 does 11.10 have gnome
[09:41] <_zoom_> ashmew2: beside some scripts (php,perl whatever) to manage the version, rating, downloads ... and payments
[09:41] <slueth> You can just install it.
[09:41] <slueth> But i think they are using unity now?
[09:41] <kwtmm> in 1¹.04 you can chose
[09:42] <kwtmm> bit in 11.10
[09:42] <kwtmm> but
[09:43] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Ubuntu is bundled with a default set of software..You can always install what you want..like KDE on a gnome desktop
[09:44] <kwtmm> so do you think 11.10 there is a meta packages
[09:44] <kwtmm> "gnome-desktop" to install
[09:44] <kwtmm> that i can use gnome
[09:44] <kwtmm> or what
[09:44] <ashmew2> there would be , they wouldnt dare cut out gnome...bad for publicity
[09:45] <kwtmm> ok
[09:45] <ashmew2> but 11.04...is it out yet ?
[09:45] <ashmew2> OMG
[09:45] <kwtmm> thx
[09:45] <ashmew2> April 28
[09:45] <kwtmm> yesa
[09:45] <ashmew2> is the official release date...10 days to go
[09:45] <ohsix> ashmew2: not to mention they can't
[09:45] <kwtmm> but i have to install today so what should i install
[09:45] <kwtmm> l
[09:45] <kwtmm> oshix: why can not they ?
[09:45] <ohsix> ashmew2: they may have unity but the other 99.9% is gnome
[09:46] <soreau> ! 11.04 | kwtmm
[09:46] <ashmew2> ohsix: Yeah , precisely ! ;)
[09:46] <kwtmm> ok
[09:46] <ohsix> same goes for gnome-shell
[09:46] <kwtmm> yes so i have to remove unity @ohsix or what
[09:46] <kwtmm> then its ordinary desktop ?
[09:46] <slueth1> Anyone like unity?
[09:46] <kwtmm> no
[09:47] <ohsix> ktyou don't have to remove anything, just pick the desktop session you want at login
[09:47] <kwtmm> ok
[09:47] <kwtmm> but i have to install today so what should i install
[09:47] <kwtmm> for productive machine :) cant wait 10 day before !
[09:47] <Sugi> hiddensoul: Btw, how was it maximizing apps and windows to a single screen, were there any downsides to using xrandr with a 4 monitor setup?
[09:47] <kwtmm> so i need the computer pc today
[09:47] <soreau> kwtmm: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <kwtmm> no
[09:48] <kwtmm> why do you tell such a crap
[09:48] <kwtmm> t
[09:48] <red2kic> kwtmm: 10.04 LTS.
[09:48] <ashmew2> soreau: He doesnt want to install natty yet. Its still beta.
[09:48] <kwtmm> thx
[09:48] <ohsix> Sugi: i thought the point of xrandr is to get around the downsides?
[09:48] <kwtmm> yes ashmew2 you right
[09:49] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Yeah , LTS would be a good choice..but before you surely want to give it a spin from the live session.
[09:49] <red2kic> kwtmm: Because you said you wanted a machine for productivity. However, solid stable? Use debian.
[09:49] <soreau> ashmew2: Oh, I thought he is asking how to install natty right now
[09:49] <ohsix> Sugi: ie. getting rid of xinerama and static configuration
[09:49] <kwtmm> ok
[09:49] <kwtmm> solid stable ?
[09:49] <ashmew2> soreau: Nah , he's just asking for advice on what to :)
[09:50] <kwtmm> jess
[09:50] <kwtmm> so do you think debian is good for me then
[09:50] <kwtmm> no i think stay ubuntu
[09:51] <ashmew2> kwtmm: There are different tools for different jobs..You wouldnt want to use a screwdriver to hammer a nail instead of using a hammer. OS choice depends on the use.
[09:51] <kwtmm> yes :D
[09:51] <ashmew2> :P
[09:51] <kwtmm> ashmew2 one question what do you use
[09:51] <Sugi> ohsix: Ok, then what should I go over to, I'm a bit lost and heartbroken to say the less.  This problem is quite problematic
[09:52] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Fedora , Ubuntu , Sabayon , Mint , Win 7.
[09:52] <ashmew2> :P
[09:52] <coolmadmax> kwtmm, than use lts -- long term support 10.4
[09:52] <ashmew2> im sort of an OS junkie , i dont really require production machines.
[09:52] <kwtmm> oh i dont like mint :D
[09:52] <soreau> ashmew2: heh, you sound like me
[09:52] <ashmew2> kwtmm: but you should be able to choose one that fits your needs best..
[09:52] <kwtmm> yesa
[09:52] <ashmew2> soreau : :)
[09:53]  * soreau has Fedora, Ubuntu, Win7, Suse and Arch
[09:53] <ashmew2> i forgot Arch !
[09:53] <ohsix> Sugi: shrug,  nvidia won't do xrandr, hope lies in nouveau, try a natty livecd, use the monitor applet
[09:53] <ashmew2> Pacman ftw :)
[09:53] <soreau> ashmew2: I actually have a 5-boot machine with all of these installed :P
[09:53] <ashmew2> kwtmm: but for that we'll need to know what you're guna use it for..Precisely..and what do u mean by a production machine...put it in a shop ?
[09:53] <red2kic> You forget Gentoo too.
[09:53] <Sugi> ohsix: I am really hoping natty will bring some new light to this issue.  This is quite an old issue :SSSSS
[09:54] <ashmew2> soreau: same..i got 3 3 . on lap and on desktop :)
[09:54] <soreau> red2kic: Sabayon is close enough ;)
[09:54] <kwtmm> ashmew2: no private ! ;)
[09:54] <soreau> ashmew2: Ah, then we are in the same boat ;)
[09:54] <ohsix> Sugi: it's just the nvidia binary driver; only mention natty because xorg-edgers stopped builds for versions older than natty, and it comes with nouveau
[09:54] <kwtmm> but dont want to re install this every secondd
[09:54] <kwtmm> d
[09:54] <kwtmm> :D
[09:54] <ashmew2> soreau: im glad :)
[09:54] <kwtmm> d
[09:54] <kwtmm> :D
[09:54] <FloodBot2> kwtmm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <ashmew2> kwtmm: i didnt private you LOL
[09:54] <kwtmm> nooo i meant
[09:54] <kwtmm> i need it private @ashmew2 mthe  pc
[09:55] <ashmew2> kwtmm: haha , OK :P
[09:55] <kwtmm> missunderstanding
[09:55] <kwtmm> :D
[09:55] <Sugi> ohsix: Aaa, btw do you have much experience with triple setup in windows envirnoment?  I have heard it's better, but at the same time, ati is winning in surround vision...
[09:56] <kwtmm> no its not better
[09:56] <kwtmm> only install linux ubuntu
[09:56] <ashmew2> kwtmm: I have Win7 installed...from about 20 months or so..havent really needed to reinstall yet. You might wanna consider that..Same goes for Ubuntu as well though.
[09:56] <ohsix> Sugi: it's worse, all you get is a framebuffer
[09:56] <manial> Witam ;)
[09:56] <manial> exit
[09:56] <Sugi> ohsix: Sigh, that doesn't sound good :SSS
[09:57] <ohsix> bbl
[09:57] <ashmew2> kwtmm: Debian sounds like a good choice...Just pre plan a bit about some exotic hardware.
[09:57] <ashmew2> Like some WiFi Cards and stuff which might have problems...Try running your config through here and google. And that should give you an idea if your stuff works on the OS or not
[09:58] <ashmew2> kwtmm
[09:58] <kwtmm> what
[09:58] <kwtmm> ok
[09:58] <ashmew2> i meant previous msg :P
[09:58] <kwtmm> debian netinstall ? live cd ?
[09:58] <alexearth> hello
[09:58] <ashmew2> well i gotta run now...Later guys
[09:58] <ashmew2> Live CD sounds better
[09:58] <kwtmm> ok
[09:59] <ashmew2> consider Arch and everything , although it started without X afair.
[09:59] <ashmew2> Later!
[10:01] <alexearth> i use gvim --remote-silent to open a file in vim but the windows stays in the background, is it possible to give it focus?
[10:02] <shomon> hi, can I make my window decorations a bit thicker so it's easier to resize them?
[10:02] <shomon> I'm always 5 minutes and feel like I have hooves instead of a mouse pointer
[10:02] <shomon> in ubuntu 10.10
[10:04] <jon___> Hi
[10:04] <andycc> shomon, the window border size pretty much depends on the theme. If you're willing to change your theme for that, I suggest Equinox.
[10:04] <jon___> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on a Dell Optiplex 360
[10:05] <mhaz> thoughts on unity>
[10:05] <jon___> but Gparted from the Ubuntu live cd can't find my partitions ...
[10:05] <jon___> any idea ?
[10:05] <tuhin> any Bengali speaking user here?
[10:08] <shomon> thanks andycc ! brilliant will try that
[10:09] <shomon> tuhin I think there are various companion channels to this one for other languages... not sure for yours though
[10:09] <tuhin> shomon: i m in such a cheannel too
[10:09] <tuhin> but not many users :(
[10:09] <mhaz> ubuntu community is dead. sad.
[10:09] <red> Hello, I have problem installing suns java jdk\jre (to get netbeans working properly)
[10:10] <iceroot> red: and what are the problems? sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[10:10] <red> Even though I have installed the packages, and apt-get removed openjdk-6-jre (and jdk) running "java -version" tells me OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
[10:10] <tuhin> shomon where r u from?
[10:10] <red> Booted already as well
[10:10] <iceroot> red: there is an update-alternatives command (i dont remeber the correct syntax) for setting sun instead of openjdk
[10:11] <red2kic> red: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:11] <red> ill try to google that
[10:11] <red> ah, testing
[10:11] <andycc> red: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure sun-java6-jre or something like that
[10:11] <red2kic> red: It's also in !java
[10:11] <niq1984> or export JAVA_HOME :)
[10:11] <red> thanks!
[10:12] <red> java -version now reporting correct
[10:12] <red2kic> red: Nice. :)
[10:12] <red> wonder how it can use openjdk when I even uninstalled the packages though
[10:12] <shomon> tuhin, it's a long story :)
[10:12] <red2kic> red: It'll use Java JRE from this point on.
[10:13] <tuhin> hmm ur name sounds like u r a Bengali...
[10:13] <shomon> :) thanks - it's sanscrit I think...
[10:14] <Sugi> I am using multiple monitors, and I am having issues maximizing an application / window to just one screen.  It spans across both monitors in the twinview.  I don't know how to fix this.  Ubuntu 10.10 x64, nvidia http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1732298
[10:14] <tuhin> yes BEgali came from Sankskritik
[10:14] <tuhin> bengali*
[10:14] <tuhin> shomon: do u type bangla in linux?
[10:15] <kwtmm> dont know if 10.04 or 10.10 1or 11.,04
[10:17] <red2kic> kwtmm: 11.04 (Unstable, not officially released). It's out.
[10:17] <shomon> ah brilliant... sorry tuhin I was away there... I am sure there is a way to do that in linux, but I wouldn't know it!
[10:17] <red2kic> kwtmm: 10.10 (Latest stable, Ubuntu-like bleeding edge).
[10:18] <kwtmm> stop what does bleeding mean
[10:18] <red2kic> kwtmm: 10.04 (LTS, It will be supported for long time).
[10:18] <red2kic> kwtmm: Latest stuffs.
[10:18] <kwtmm> ok
[10:18] <tuhin> shomon u can type bengali using Avro keyboard layout in ubuntu
[10:18] <red2kic> kwtmm: Roll a dice. Make a pick.
[10:18] <kwtmm> red2kic do you use kde then
[10:18] <tuhin> i was looking for help abt it
[10:18] <red2kic> kwtmm: No.
[10:19] <shomon> I'm a buddhist, that's the connection... but I'm not sure about switching keyboard layouts to non standard. I have switched languages though, and it's always better to install linux directly in the language/keyboard of choice
[10:19] <shomon> or you end up with a mix (I have spanish and english on this one)
[10:20] <tuhin> nice to meet u shomon , where r u from and where living now?
[10:21] <shomon> chile, italy, scotland and now living in spain :)
[10:22] <shomon> where is the gd2 package for ubuntu 10?
[10:22] <shomon> or what is it called?
[10:23] <llutz_> shomon: libgd2-xpm?
[10:24] <shomon> llutz_, thanks
[10:24] <shomon> ok I found one via synaptic...
[10:25] <beevvy> hi, which phonon backend is the default in natty? xine? gstreamer? vlc?
[10:25] <santos_> hello
[10:27] <psypher246> hi all, i need to log a bug about my SD card not working at all in ubuntu, any recent version, but I am not sure under which app i should log it, could anyone assist?
[10:28] <psypher246> it's not detected anywhere
[10:28] <ikonia> psypher246: define not working
[10:28] <ikonia> psypher246: is it the card or the card reader ?
[10:28] <shomon> tuhin, nice to meet you! good luck with keyboard layouts!
[10:28] <psypher246> not detected in dmesg, lsusb, nothing shows in syslods
[10:28] <psypher246> card reader
[10:28] <psypher246> ikonia: it works gine in windows
[10:28] <psypher246> fine*
[10:28] <ikonia> psypher246: ok, so it's probably not an ubuntu issue more an issue that your card reader is not supported in the linux kernel
[10:29] <ikonia> psypher246: note "probably"
[10:29] <tuhin> shomon, how did u end up in chile?
[10:29] <psypher246> ikonia: ok, so must i log the bug at kernel level?
[10:30] <ikonia> psypher246: personally, I wouldn't log it as an ubuntu issue
[10:31] <psypher246> ikonia: ok thanks
[10:31] <psypher246> ikonia: kernel.org right?
[10:32] <kesor> why i have problems with Startup Disk Creator?? i try to select archlinux-2010.05-core-i686.iso file but it doesent work???
[10:32] <Ben64> psypher246: not having a driver isn't a bug
[10:32] <chammua> i have error when i want open file file.exe: $: mono file.exe Cannot open assembly 'file.exe': File does not contain a valid CIL image. how to fix this error? pls!
[10:32] <NickUK> Yo
[10:32] <psypher246> Ben64: ok then where do i begin, I have never haed issues with an SD card reader and this is a dell laptop
[10:32] <psypher246> very new
[10:33] <Ben64> psypher246: if i were you i'd google the model of the reader + ubuntu
[10:33] <NickUK> I've recently upgrade to 11.04 from 10.04 with no wireless issues in 10.04 or 10.10 while upgrading, however in 11.04 my Wireless isn't working. I've managed to get most of it working but when I goto install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer it gives mee an error code.
[10:33] <mmjj> kesor: just use dd, have a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Putting_installation_media_on_a_USB_key
[10:33] <Ben64> !maverick | NickUK
[10:34] <Ben64> err... whoops
[10:34] <Ben64> !natty | NickUK
[10:34] <NickUK> Thanks
[10:36] <psypher246> Ben64: i have tried looking for dell xps l701x and ubuntu but can't find anything, going to try find the model of the reader
[10:37] <chammua> can u help me fix error when i tried open file.exe: http://cB5.upanh.com/21.495.28447034.Ooz0/errorpix.png   pls!!!
[10:37] <Ben64> chammua: you might want to try in #winehq
[10:37] <kesor> mmjj ok thanks, but how do i unmount the usb first?
[10:38] <kesor> mmjj: it says "To install, first ensure the USB device is unmounted and then issue the following command: "
[10:41] <kesor> How do i unmount a usb device??
[10:42] <mmjj>  kensor: either eject it using nautilus in ubuntu, or use the command sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[10:42] <kesor> mmjj: umount: /media/usbdisk: not found
[10:43] <mmjj> replace usbdisk with the name of your disk
[10:43] <TRider> is it normal that windows cannot recognize a hd with ubuntu on it ? I need to transfer files
[10:43] <kesor> mmjj: how am i suposed to install iso file on it, if ejected?
[10:43] <kesor> ok
[10:43] <psypher246> Ben64: dell is not being much help, any susggestion as to how i can find the model number of the card reader?
[10:45] <Ben64> psypher246: lspci might have it
[10:46] <Ben64> TRider: thats totally normal. if you search for something to read ext3/4 in windows you can access the files
[10:46] <kesor> mmjj: i have unmounted it now, but i cant run he $ dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sd[x] command?
[10:47] <TRider> ext3/4. Ok thanks
[10:47] <Ben64> thats the file system, not the name of a program
[10:47] <psypher246> pastebin
[10:47] <Ben64> ext3 or ext4
[10:48] <DJones> TRider: Last time I used it, Windows didn't have built in support for ext3/4 partition types, I used http://www.fs-driver.org/ which let me access an ext3 parition from windows, but I'm not sure whether its up to date now, its been a few years since I used it
[10:48] <psypher246> whats the command to get help from ubotto?
[10:48] <psypher246> nv,
[10:48] <psypher246> nvm
[10:48] <TRider> ok I will search. thanks a lot
[10:48] <psypher246> Ben64: nothing on there standing out as card reader:
[10:48] <psypher246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/595444/
[10:48] <DJones> TRider: I was using WIn Xp at the time as well, so vista & win 7 could be completely different
[10:50] <coolmego> i have problem with grub usage.kindly refer me some link to use it
[10:50] <Ben64> psypher246: try starting ubuntu with a card in the reader
[10:50] <psypher246> Ben64: ah hah
[10:50] <psypher246> JMicron JMB389 Card Reader Driver For DELL XPS L701X (1.0.41.2, A00)
[10:50] <psypher246> ok will try that too thanks
[10:50] <psypher246> but i found this somewhere else
[10:51] <psypher246> thanks dude
[10:51] <FloodBot2> psypher246: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <Ben64> gl
[10:52] <netsurf3> hey guys concerned that my machine is doing something big and ugly. Can you guys tell me the ram usage you have for an open desktop with a web browser?
[10:53] <psypher246> Ben64: hmmm, jmicron site says any kernel from  2.6.18  should work
[10:53] <netsurf3> I'm getting readings of 1.6gb which seems far too high
[10:53] <niq1984> netsurf3: 64bit?
[10:53] <netsurf3> niq1984, yeah
[10:53] <Ben64> netsurf3: linux uses a lot of ram as cache, nothing to be worried about
[10:54] <netsurf3> Ben64, i realise this but this is actually memory used by something and not cache
[10:54] <niq1984> paste cat /proc/meminfo |grep Cache
[10:55] <netsurf3> Cached:          1613452 kB
[10:55] <netsurf3> SwapCached:         1304 kB
[10:55] <netsurf3> okay point proven
[10:55] <niq1984> ;)
[10:55] <Ben64> :)
[10:55] <niq1984> it's normal
[10:56] <kesor> is there a usb iso creator program for linux i cant find one??? i want to install arch linux iso for bootable usb
[10:56] <coz_> kesor,  yes  hold on
[10:56] <netsurf3> niq1984, how can it be calculated the actual consumption of ram for programs?
[10:56] <tuhin> unetbootin kesor
[10:56] <coz_> kesor,  its called    imagewriter
[10:56] <coz_> kesor,  also  unetbootin
[10:57] <kesor> coz_ wich one is the best?
[10:57] <tuhin> netsurf3: use system monitor
[10:57] <coz_> kesor,  mm   well... unetbootin is less picky   but both work
[10:57] <niq1984> netsurf3: usually I merge free and cached ;)
[10:57] <coz_> kesor,  unetbootin will not reject an iso that is not ubuntu
[10:57] <tuhin> there is another which lets u drag and drop kesor , forgot the name
[10:57] <coz_> kesor,  its not as "pretty"  as  imagewriter
[10:57] <tuhin> lool in pendrivelinux.com
[10:58] <coz_> kesor,  but it does work
[10:58] <kesor> coz_ ok ill try
[10:58] <tuhin> look*
[10:58] <red2kic> kesor: Refer to Archlinux Wiki. They have wiki/guides. Use dd.
[10:58] <netsurf3> niq1984, :)
[10:59] <kesor> red2kic i tried dd, i couldent figure out
[10:59] <Ubuntulover> hi
[11:00] <red2kic> kesor: What can't you figure out? Are you stuck or lost at that part?
[11:00] <niq1984> kesor: have u tried Startup Disk Creator?
[11:00] <Ubuntulover> hi
[11:00] <Ubuntulover> question
[11:01] <coz_> niq1984,  ah I forgot about that one,, but it rejects non ubuntu iso's
[11:01] <psypher246> Ben64: yeah i know, i mailed them, not holding my breath on a response
[11:01] <psypher246> Ben64: trying to find more info
[11:01] <yuskhanzab> hello all, i want to ask have someone try the natty beta 2?
[11:01] <red2kic> yuskhanzab: #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <kesor> i am in UNetbootin now and trying to find my iso file to create disk, but i dont see list over my user, only root?
[11:03] <iceroot> kesor: /home/username/
[11:03] <coz_> kesor,  ok there is a button on the right labeled  ......
[11:03] <coz_> kesor,  it has three dots  on the button ,, that will allow you to search where the iso image is
[11:03] <niq1984> coz_: Ops, u right, i don't know that before
[11:04] <coz_> kesor,   actually all you need to do with  this is find the iso image  and click ok  if you want this on a usb flash ,, all the settings  are already set for it
[11:05] <kesor> ok i found it out, now i selected my archlinux file and tried to create a usb and it was doen in 1 sec, and i cheked what files what was on the usb devise and its only 100 kb why?
[11:05] <kesor> ill try again
[11:05] <Diuk> ciao a tutti
[11:06] <Diuk> hello to everybody
[11:06] <coz_> kesor,  ok just find the iso ,, with non other settings, , make usre under "Type"  it is the usb driver  then click OK
[11:07] <netsurf3> niq1984, thanks for the help i have doublechecked a couple of things and your right just being a hypochondriac :)
[11:08] <hutch> I can't get into #ubuntu+1 using /join #ubuntu+1 or right clicking on the link givenby kesor to yuskhanzab
[11:08] <Hemebond> I'
[11:08] <hutch> That's weird coz as soon as I pressed enter on that mssg it took me there
[11:09] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to set a random-playlist with amarok?
[11:09] <niq1984> netsurf3: n/p :)
[11:09] <Hemebond> I'm using 11.04 and it appears memory isn't being released when I close some apps and windows. How do I see exactly what is using the memory? Apparently 1.2GiB of memory is being used but the processes memory doesn't add up. Firefox with Flash was using almost 2GiB and that didn't go down much once I closed it.
[11:10] <llutz_> !natty | Hemebond
[11:10] <Hemebond> I have to go to #ubuntu+1? Okay.
[11:11] <llutz_> yes
[11:11] <coz_> kesor,  to be honest ,, it took me a couple trys to get it right with unetbootin but it does work especially with non ubuntu iso's
[11:11] <gilax> did anyone had kernel 2.5.38 on ubuntu ?
[11:12] <erUSUL> gilax: why you ask ?
[11:12] <llutz_> most ISO came as hybrid-iso today (except *buntu), so why not just use dd?
[11:12] <duolc> gilax: it's so old
[11:12] <gilax> ok I'll try
[11:13] <Diverdude> if i have a ascii file, how can i from console line count how many lines this file has?
[11:13] <llutz_> Diverdude: wc -l file
[11:13] <linuxxuxiaopeng> xuxiao
[11:15] <gilax> exit
[11:16] <Diverdude> llutz, thx
[11:16] <mithran> how do i find which process is keeping a file open?
[11:17] <ejv> mithran: `lsof` might assist
[11:17] <coz_> kesor,  did that work?
[11:17] <llutz_> mithran: or "fuser"
[11:17] <duolc> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER doulc lmjweifnbrlp
[11:17] <duolc>  
[11:18] <ejv> doh
[11:18] <kesor> coz_ it worked now, i had to install 7zip-full before to get unetbootin to work properly
[11:18] <coz_> kesor,  oh!! wow  ok
[11:18] <rob_p> duolc: You should change your password now! :)
[11:19] <BlouBlou> rob_p: no need, it's just the verify command, not the password
[11:20] <mithran> llutz_:  i opened a file using vim, in 1 terminal windows, and $sudo fuser <filename>, but it lists nothing, any pointers?
[11:20] <zcruanb> hello
[11:20] <rob_p> BlouBlou: ah, verify... missed that!
[11:21] <zhangcao> ????
[11:21] <BlouBlou> zhangcao: errr... what?
[11:22] <zhangcao> how to use it?
[11:22] <BlouBlou> zhangcao: use what?
[11:22] <zhangcao> the  irc
[11:23] <BlouBlou> zhangcao: you mean your client or commands?
[11:23] <zhangcao> commands
[11:23] <duolc> rob_p: Thanks.
[11:23] <ouyes> I installed the thinkfan to manage the fan speed of my t400, but there seems a problem, the fan speed is so slow, that my laptop get more hot than usual, how to add a little speed to my fan ?
[11:23] <BlouBlou> zhangcao: join in #freenode, it's the main channel of this network, you'll get more info about this in there
[11:23] <BlouBlou> zhangcao: type '/join #freenode' and press enter
[11:24] <Ubuntulover> hi
[11:24] <Ubuntulover> help
[11:24] <BlouBlou> Ubuntulover: just ask your question
[11:24] <zhangcao> thanks i will try
[11:26] <Wobbley> Afternoon :o
[11:27] <Ubuntulover> my question:
[11:27] <Ubuntulover> 10.04 or 10 10
[11:27] <ruben> hello
[11:27] <syriux> Ubuntulover : 11.10
[11:27] <Gdot_admin> Hello all
[11:27] <BlouBlou> Ubuntulover: what do you prefer, the newst software, or a very stable OS?
[11:27] <Ubuntulover> 11.10 ??
[11:27] <Ubuntulover> very stable
[11:27] <syriux> no 11.04
[11:27] <BlouBlou> then 10.04 LTS
[11:27] <Ubuntulover> ok
[11:27] <syriux> sorry
[11:27] <Guest33053> eeeeeeeee
[11:28] <Guest33053> de que estais hablando
[11:28] <syriux> relase in 10 days
[11:28] <BlouBlou> syriux: anyways he wants to use LTS versions, as he said, he prefers stable software than newst one
[11:29]  * BlouBlou prefers newst one :-)
[11:29] <syriux> yeah sure but between 10.10 and 11.04, choose 11.04
[11:29] <BlouBlou> yeah
[11:29] <m_101> hi!
[11:29] <BlouBlou> m_101: hey
[11:30] <blip-> hi, I'm trying to secure delete stuff on my laptop.  I boot via Ubuntu LiveCD, I leave the laptop overnight and when I return it seems to be in standby.  I don't see any options for standby in the gnome power management - could it just be that the CD is slow and the screen was off- but not actually suspended to ram ?
[11:30] <heyguise> Hey guys, I'm looking for a program that'll let me stream to a shoutcast server. I'd like to have mic input but its not nessicary. Any suggestions?
[11:30] <m_101> i've got a problem with Kile: the menu doesn't answer anymore on Ubuntu 11.04 64 bits all update applied
[11:30] <m_101> i completely disinstalled the soft and reinstalled it
[11:30] <m_101> and still have the same problem, haven't found anything on Google :s
[11:30] <syriux> what problem m_101 ?
[11:31] <m_101> Kile menu doesn't answer at all
[11:31] <chaos-cn> hi
[11:31] <ashmew2> heyguise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1049920 offers any help ? Looks promising to me , although i dont have any experience with shoutcast.
[11:31] <heyguise> thanks ash
[11:31] <chaos-cn> who can tech me how to use xchat
[11:31] <syriux> try uninstall with the synaptic option which remove the configuration file
[11:32] <BlouBlou> chaos-cn: #xchat 's folks :)
[11:32] <syriux> chaos : you are using it
[11:32] <chaos-cn> i'm a newer
[11:32] <ashmew2> chaos-cn: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fxchat.org%2Fdocs%2Fstart%2F&rct=j&q=xchat%20tutorial&ei=KBOsTfzQGMXorQeQvpCnCA&usg=AFQjCNGDOIB9ZuODQvuI8h4kMI1qT1nnuQ&cad=rja
[11:32] <BlouBlou> chaos-cn: '/join #xchat' and press enter. Then ask in there, you'll get more help than in here
[11:33] <m_101> syrinx_, already did that ....
[11:33] <chaos-cn> wa
[11:33] <syriux> m_101 : try uninstall with the synaptic option which remove the configuration file
[11:33] <m_101> already did that
[11:33] <chaos-cn> thamk you from my heart
[11:34] <BlouBlou> m_101: it may be a GTK error, did you try to submit the bug to launchpad?
[11:34] <syriux> m_101 maybe it's a problem with a library
[11:34] <m_101> it's the only buggy soft ....
[11:34] <m_101> so i doub't it's GTK+ but we never know ... :s
[11:34] <zee313> I have some Data that is in .iso format. When ever I required to use that  I used Ulata iso software for mounting the Files. Here when I mounted data It is shown in the virtual drive . Here I use the data. I there concept of virtual drive in Ubuntu?
[11:34] <AnggaDj98> chaos-cn: are you chinese?
[11:34] <BlouBlou> AnggaDj98: why?
[11:34] <AnggaDj98> BlouBlou: just asking
[11:35] <BlouBlou> AnggaDj98: not here please
[11:35] <AnggaDj98> BlouBlou: ok sorry
[11:35] <syriux> did you look for similar problems n google ?
[11:35] <heyguise> HAHAHA this link "Server name: My Gay Son"
[11:35] <mithran> llutz_: when i do fuser /etc/passed it lists 2 pids, but if i open a normal file in a terminal and try fuser <filenam>, it does not list anything...please help!!
[11:35] <Sugi> How do I get the details for my monitor, I want to manual add it to my xorg?
[11:36] <zee313> Software for mounting .iso files (Virual Drives)?
[11:36] <chaos-cn> why do you use irc so well
[11:36] <andycc> zee313: AcetoneISO?
[11:37] <Juo> will a program like ffmpeg or handbrake-CLI perform much faster if i compile them from source compared to apt-get install?
[11:38] <blip-> Does ubuntu LiveCD have suspend to ram enabled on a timer ?  when I leave the machine on for few hours and return - it takes time for it to get back.. i'm not sure if that's just CD-drive spinup time or return from s2ram
[11:38] <Sugi> How do I check the monitor details, like exact model name, horizsync, and vertrefresh?  So I can add these details manual to my xorg. ubuntu 10.10 x64, nvidia
[11:38] <ShapeShifter499> um am I seeing things or is it a glitch of google or this software (http://smestorage.com) I'm using to mount google mail as a cloud drive?
[11:38] <ShapeShifter499> it says I have 1tb of storage space in google
[11:38] <ShapeShifter499> after I mounted
[11:38] <ShapeShifter499> o.O
[11:39] <shomon> how do you install virtualbox in ubuntu 10.10?
[11:39] <andycc> shomon: search for it in the Software Center.
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> SMEStorage is a cloud file system mounter for most OSes
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> btw
[11:39] <BlouBlou> shomon: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-qt
[11:39] <shomon> ok cooll  thanks andycc
[11:40] <BlouBlou> shomon: type that in a terminal (what I said before) and you'll get it installed
[11:41] <shomon> I'm hearing it's not the most up to date one... ?
[11:41] <BlouBlou> shomon: you're right, it will be the newst one with 11.04
[11:42] <shomon> ok thanks BlouBlou
[11:42] <BlouBlou> np
[11:44] <erUSUL> Sugi: the nevidia tools do not detect the monitor?
[11:44] <erUSUL> nvidia*
[11:45] <shomon> BlouBlou, is that the 64bit one or regular cow's milk?
[11:45] <BlouBlou> No idea, sorry
[11:45] <Sugi> erUSUL: I am having massive issues with the twinview thing, so I am currently trying to setup the xorg myself.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10690096#post10690096
[11:46] <BlouBlou> shomon: you mean ubuntu or virtualbox? (64bits)
[11:46] <ny3blpb> can someone help me with oracle database
[11:46] <syriux> it's difficult to help someone with oracle on an ubuntu support channel
[11:47] <shomon> virtualbox
[11:47] <shomon> sorry
[11:47] <shomon> :) too many windows
[11:47] <syriux> try finding an oracle support channel
[11:47] <gluon> does anyone use gwibber with google buzz? it doesn't seem to work on 10.10
[11:47] <shomon> ny3blpb, I can tell you - it's hard! but rhel channel may be more of help
[11:48] <ny3blpb> but i cant connect at theyr channel it says "Cannot send to channel"
[11:48] <BlouBlou> shomon: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-distributions/4-ubuntu/1242-install-virtualbox-via-ppa-repository-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat
[11:48] <ny3blpb> with this what should i do ?
[11:49] <BlouBlou> shomon: With that PPA, you'll get installed and updated, the newest version of virtualbox
[11:50] <shomon> thanks very much BlouBlou
[11:51] <BlouBlou> shomon: You're welcome :)
[11:51] <syriux> ny3blpb : find a tutorial on google
[11:51] <Evanescence2> where is the Python buildin HELP document ? in env variable
[11:51] <shomon> ny3blpb, ah you need to register your IRC nickname with freenode - not sure of the linky for that
[11:51] <Sugi> How do I check the monitor details, like exact model name, horizsync, and vertrefresh?  So I can add these details manual to my xorg. ubuntu 10.10 x64, nvidia
[11:52] <shomon> anyway, ny3blpb that is the red hat enterprise channel. they are just more used to dealing with closed source stuff. but not necessarily will the know or want to help...
[11:52] <shomon> s/the/they
[11:53] <am4zing> hi guys
[11:53] <Wobbley> So i type sudo tasksel and get throw into the menu. I press enter when i get to the lamp server but instead of doing anything it just throws me out? :S
[11:53] <am4zing> i;ve installed a debian package
[11:53] <syriux> hi, u're amazing !
[11:53] <syriux> :P
[11:53] <Wobbley> syriux: I am dissapoint, you can do better then that! :P
[11:53] <am4zing> The following packages have unmet dependencies:: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: Depends: linux-base (>= 2.6.32-31) but it is not installable
[11:53] <am4zing> how can i remap that dep to the ubuntu or just have it be ignored?
[11:54] <syriux> wobbley : i'll try to do better the next time then ^^
[11:54] <Wobbley> ;D
[11:55] <prithvi> anyone know of a good alternative to iperf/jperf  on ubuntu?
[11:55] <syriux> wher do the most people using ubuntu live ? USA ?
[11:56] <BlouBlou> syriux: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:56] <syriux> sorry u're right
[11:58] <mithran> hi all, i opened a normal file using vim, in 1 terminal window, and '$sudo fuser <filename>', but it lists nothing, when i did the same with /etc/passwds i got 2 pids, any pointers?
[11:59] <dman_> anyone know where i can get help on commandline commands
[11:59] <jrp> hello. are there any packages I can install via apt that give me a default xen bootable vmlinux package?
[11:59] <heyguise> hey ashmew2 thanks dude. That worked perfect.
[12:00] <jrib> dman_: here, just ask your question
[12:01] <Ubuntulover> hi
[12:01] <Ubuntulover> help
[12:01] <shomon> is it easy/advisable to replace openoffice with libreoffice?
[12:01] <BlouBlou> shomon: Why? I won't do it
[12:01] <hiddensoul> dman_, here is a printable cheat sheet of Ubuntu CLI commands, a good place to get an idea of commands that you can research further http://fosswire.com/post/2008/04/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[12:01] <dman_> jrib: Okay I'm trying to use tree command on ipod. Wanted to know if I can ssh in and somehow run command on that connection
[12:02] <llutz_> shomon: easy yes (there is a ppa), advisable... no idea
[12:02] <BlouBlou> shomon: OpenOffice works fine, why would I need to change it?
[12:02] <shomon> BlouBlou, well just reading today's news about oracle and ooo.
[12:02] <shomon> they've discontinued it.
[12:02] <shomon> I think...
[12:02] <Ubuntulover> hi
[12:02] <Ubuntulover> help
[12:02] <dman_> hiddensoul: Thanks, I think it will involve pipe |
[12:02] <jrib> dman_: ok, that's really an ipod question not an ubuntu one, but you need to jailbreak your ipod and run an ssh server on it.  Then make sure tree is installed and run it
[12:02] <Ubuntulover> 10.10 or 10.04
[12:02] <mah454> Ubuntu in very very BAD distro ... !
[12:03] <BlouBlou> mah454: then don't use it
[12:03] <jrib> mah454: do you have an ubuntu support related question?
[12:03] <mah454> Are you know why ?
[12:03] <dman_> jrib: Yeah I'm running ubuntu and use terminal to ssh connect to ipod which is already jailbroken. I'm just trying to get a copy of the filesystem on the ipod and maybe print it out.
[12:03] <Ubuntulover> help
[12:03] <Ubuntulover> 10.10 or 10.04
[12:03] <dman_> tree | lpr       works on ubuntu
[12:04] <jrib> dman_: save « tree » output to a file, and copy it to your desktop
[12:04] <mah454> why ubuntu switch gnome desktop environment to Unity Desktop in 11.04 ?
[12:04] <jrib> Ubuntulover: 10.04 is latest LTS (3 years support on desktop before you need to upgrade).  10.10 has more recent software (18 months support before upgrade required)
[12:04] <Ubuntulover> ok
[12:05] <Ubuntulover> jrib what do you use
[12:05] <jrib> Ubuntulover: 10.10 on my desktop and laptop, 10.04 on servers
[12:05] <Ubuntulover> ok
[12:05] <Ubuntulover> and jrib when do you upgrade 11.04 ?
[12:06] <hiddensoul> mah454, unity will be the default desktop, but you will be able to switch to a "standard" gnome desktop if you want, or XFCE...KDE...E... or any number of others
[12:06] <macca> hi guys, am looking to install the beta alongside my windows system... whats the best way to do this?
[12:06] <Ubuntulover> macco no beta install
[12:06] <macca> p.s. i dont already have windows
[12:07] <Ubuntulover> and jrib when do you upgrade 11.04 ?
[12:07] <macca> i mean ubuntu
[12:07] <macca> is what i mean
[12:07] <mah454> why unity must be default desktop ?
[12:07] <Ubuntulover> macca which version do you want then
[12:07] <macca> lets try that again 11.04 beta 2
[12:07] <macca> alongside my windows system
[12:07] <Ubuntulover> mah454: do not get on our nerves !
[12:07] <jrib> Ubuntulover: i upgrade when it comes out or shortly after
[12:07] <Ubuntulover> macca: no  beta !
[12:07] <ashmew2> heyguise: glad i could be of help :)
[12:07] <Ubuntulover> i can crashed your system
[12:07] <hiddensoul> because that is the design decision Canonical made, if you dont like it switch distros, it is really that simple
[12:07] <jrib> mah454: that's not really a support question and this channel deals only with versions that have been released anyway
[12:07] <macca> why no betabeta?
[12:08] <Ubuntulover> macca: its unstable, and if you have windows already installed it can be that it will be distroyed
[12:08] <Ubuntulover> so let it
[12:08] <jrib> !natty | macca
[12:08] <Ubuntulover> macca which version do you want then
[12:08] <macca> ok then it doesnt matter
[12:08] <macca> i will wait
[12:08] <ny3blpb>  /server
[12:08] <Ubuntulover> macca: try ubuntu10.10
[12:08] <macca> so the realease date is anytime basically?
[12:08] <Ubuntulover> 28. april
[12:09] <macca> thats good
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> so install now 10.10
[12:09] <macca> i will get that when it comes out
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> upgrade in one mothn to 11.04
[12:09] <macca> thanks for letting me know of the start date
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> month
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> no problem
[12:09] <red> Does anyone know an IDE for Ubuntu that has PHP syntax hilighting and Subversion built in?
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> red i do not know ...
[12:09] <macca> do you know if it is on scedule or not?
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> yes
[12:09] <macca> *shedule
[12:09] <Ubuntulover> 28. april
[12:10] <macca> thats very good thankyou
[12:10] <Ubuntulover> no problem
[12:10] <hiddensoul> macca, 6 month release cycle
[12:10] <hiddensoul> macca, 4th and 10th months
[12:11] <syriux> ubuntulover : yes it's a good thing
[12:11] <syriux> no don't install anything, wait 10 days and install 11.04
[12:11] <macca> any recommended size allocation for a 10.10 wubi install, i am on limited space remaining
[12:12] <syriux> red : maybe code::blocks but i dunno...
[12:12] <syriux> use gedit
[12:12] <macca> any recommended size allocation for a 10.10 wubi install, i have limited space remaining
[12:12] <syriux> and the terminal
[12:13] <BlouBlou> !repeat
[12:13] <hiddensoul> red, dont know if it has subversion but have you looked at eclipse, it has modules you can develop just about anything in it
[12:13] <red> I know eclipse yeah, maybe ill give it a go
[12:13] <rooks-live> macca, 20gb should be comfortable, 10gb will do but will feel cramped soon
[12:13] <Ubuntulover> 10.10 or 10.04
[12:13] <hiddensoul> red www.eclipse.org
[12:13] <cazandobits> hi
[12:13] <BlouBlou> Ubuntulover: I told you before
[12:13] <macca> 10.10
[12:13] <Ubuntulover> ok
[12:14] <red> Would have liked to use netbeans, but 3 hours of fighting and cant get aliasing working.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2188345/netbeans_font_problem.png
[12:14] <BlouBlou> Ubuntulover: You said me you wanted stable PC, then 10.04
[12:14] <cazandobits> anybody can helpme with transmission daemon
[12:14] <macca> so if i go 10 and do have masses of personal files it will still work?
[12:14] <BlouBlou> !anybody | cazandobits
[12:14] <macca> ok 10.04 then
[12:14] <cazandobits> ok Im sorry
[12:15] <syriux> cazandobits : there's lots of tutorials i suppose
[12:16] <airtonix> :< ubuntu lucid fails at autofs nfs mounting :< :<
[12:17] <sipior> airtonix: works fine here. did you have a question about it?
[12:17] <macca> if i use the usb image alongside install, will it set up the dual boot for me
[12:17] <Wobbley> mysql is making me rage :(
[12:17] <Wobbley> Someone throw me some entertainment :p
[12:17] <airtonix> sipior: works fine on my maverick client but no on the lucid client.
[12:18] <airtonix> sipior: manually mounting the nfs export works on the lucid, but then that inhibits suspend to ram
[12:19] <macca> ...as this is not clear in the setup instructions
[12:19] <macca> and i dont want to compromise my windows
[12:20] <airtonix> sipior: sudo service autofs restart .... cat /var/log/syslog  >> reveals : automount[4672]: syntax error in nsswitch config near [ syntax error ]
[12:20] <airtonix> sipior: nsswitch.conf is default and identical to default maverick nsswitch
[12:21] <macca> anyone?
[12:22] <AnggaDj98> !patience | macca
[12:22] <UbuntuFanatic> Hello.
[12:22] <bittin> hi
[12:23] <Rau> hello
[12:23] <hilmi> hi all. I installed natty beta2. before that I used 10.10 with 2.6.32 kernel since the default kernel didn't support my hardware. now I tried to do the same, installed old kernel, but the boot menu is different now. But it doesn't boot now. What can I do? I don't want to use linux without acpi support?
[12:23] <UbuntuFanatic> UbuntuFanatic> I need some help,
 ubuntuone-syncd is using a lot of CPU/Memory
 and I do not use the application.
 I'm on natty at the moment, but it happened when running Maverick too.
[12:23] <FloodBot2> UbuntuFanatic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <UbuntuFanatic> Oops. D:
[12:23] <AnggaDj98> macca: you can install ubuntu inside windows, using wubi.exe, ubuntu installer for windows
[12:23] <UbuntuFanatic> hlimi, shift, I believe..?
[12:23] <UbuntuFanatic> Old Ubuntu versions --> pick a kernel
[12:24] <UbuntuFanatic> Can anybody help me out?
[12:24] <macca> yes but does wubi not have performance implications
[12:24] <AnggaDj98> macca: yes, but it slightly depend on your hardware condition
[12:24] <AnggaDj98> macca: like processor amount and speed per second
[12:24] <UbuntuFanatic> Any Ubuntu One devs here/
[12:25] <UbuntuFanatic> *?
[12:25] <macca> 2ghz, 2gb mem
[12:25] <nesbitt> i recently changed the wifi settings on my router, and need to update it on all the machines in my house.  instead of manually going to each one and connecting to the wifi, is there a way i can just email everyone a config file, which they can run or load into network manager or something?
[12:25] <AnggaDj98> macca: 2gb ram? that's good enough, maybe boot will be up to 15~20 seconds
[12:25] <ziyadb> I can't use $git-clone, how should I do this?
[12:26] <macca> so partition wont be quicker
[12:26] <AnggaDj98> it will be
[12:26] <macca> well does it set up dual boot for me?
[12:26] <AnggaDj98> because it doesn't have dependency to windows
[12:26] <Aufwind> Hey guys, I don't know if the question is right in this channel. ;-) I have a webpage written in html and php and this page uses some python scripts. Is there something like a (free) visualization tool, in which I can visualize the code flow? It would be useful to see where it is best to expand the Project and plan ahead. I hope I explained my wishes well enough. ^^
[12:26] <macca> if i use the usb installer
[12:26] <AnggaDj98> you have to partition your hard drive, and that's count as "compromising windows"
[12:26] <macca> hmm ok
[12:27] <AnggaDj98> unless you back up first
[12:27] <macca> ok but why cant i use 10.10 with wubi
[12:27] <AnggaDj98> whats wrong?
[12:28] <ziyadb> I can't use $git-clone, how can I git source code in ubuntu?
[12:28] <sipior> ziyadb: why can't you use git-clone?
[12:29] <macca> AnggaDj98: it wont let me get 10.10 with wubi
[12:29] <ziyadb> sipior "command not found"
[12:30] <skpl> sudo apt-get install git
[12:30] <sipior> ziyadb: sudo apt-get install git-core
[12:30] <AnggaDj98> macca: shouldnt you be off downloading the iso, write it to a usb, then run it up on windows, and run wubi?
[12:30] <UbuntuFanatic> No.
[12:30] <UbuntuFanatic> It downloads it for you,
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> may be faster to get the iso first.
[12:30] <macca> exactly, and it only downloads 10.04
[12:30] <UbuntuFanatic> but if you wish to download/place it in an area where Wubi can find it without downloading
[12:30] <UbuntuFanatic> yeah. ^
[12:31] <ziyadb> sipior thanks, I'll try it out.
[12:31] <macca> i have the iso for 10.10 right here
[12:31] <airtonix> sipior: this is what i have tried so far : http://dpaste.com/533152/
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> I dont reccomend Wubi at all.
[12:31] <AnggaDj98> UbuntuFanatic: oh thanks for calling that out i never knew that :D
[12:31] <UbuntuFanatic> No problem. :D
[12:31] <AnggaDj98> macca: right, you can use pendrivelinux or some similar program that runs on windows, to write the image file to USB
[12:32] <macca> but did we not just establish i shouldnt do that?
[12:32] <UbuntuFanatic> What is maccas problem?
[12:32] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry, I didn't see.
[12:33] <macca> i want 10.10 with wubi but it wont appear
[12:33] <AnggaDj98> UbuntuFanatic: he would like to use Ubuntu with Windows (maybe within it), with USB
[12:33] <macca> in wubi
[12:33] <AnggaDj98> I don't recommend Wubi, BTW
[12:33] <UbuntuFanatic> VirtualBox then?
[12:33] <macca> no longer need usb based on what you said, just wubi
[12:33] <UbuntuFanatic> Or a dual boot..
[12:33] <UbuntuFanatic> Oh, with USB.
[12:33] <macca> well isnt that what wubi does
[12:33] <UbuntuFanatic> What now?
[12:33] <AnggaDj98> still its better if you partition it after back-uping windows, and you install it on that partition using USB or better, CD
[12:33] <sipior> airtonix: both hosts have the same NIS domain?
[12:33] <UbuntuFanatic> Wubi does a dual boot, and the performance impact is not *that* bad.
[12:34] <airtonix> macca: wubi is fine as long as you understand that the linux file system depends on the health of your windows ntfs filesystem.. if you get a virus in windows that wants to nomnomnom your files and it happens to munch up the virtual-harddrive file that is wubi then you can say bye bye to your wubi-linux install
[12:34] <macca> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21049253/Untitled.jpg this is what wubi does to me
[12:34] <UbuntuFanatic> airtonix, exactly.
[12:34] <UbuntuFanatic> macca..
[12:34] <UbuntuFanatic> That is what is meant to happen.
[12:34] <macca> airtonix: yes i understand that
[12:34] <UbuntuFanatic> Put in a user, and a password, and bam.
[12:34] <UbuntuFanatic> You have to have a pass though. :P
[12:35] <macca> but i have very good IS
[12:35] <UbuntuFanatic> IS?
[12:35] <red2kic> v[IS]ta -- My poor guess.
[12:35] <macca> internet security package! with AV
[12:36] <UbuntuFanatic> What does that matter..?
[12:36] <Alvo> hello, what is this process 'polkitd'? it is extensivewly busy, consumed 50 minutes cpu time over the last 5 hours
[12:36] <airtonix> sipior: to be honest, my maverick system doesn't even use YPBind. so i'm not sure why i have to use it on lucid
[12:36] <macca> yes but if you look at that screenshot it says 10.04 in the corner
[12:36] <Wobbley> Anyone know anything about MySQL and ubuntu and have a moment to help?
[12:36] <UbuntuFanatic> So?
[12:36] <UbuntuFanatic> You can upgrade.
[12:36] <UbuntuFanatic> Wobbley, hello!
[12:36] <red2kic> macca: Windows users will yell at you for not having AntiVirus on your system.  Linux users will yell at you for installing one on your system.
[12:37] <UbuntuFanatic> red2kic, exactly.
[12:37] <red2kic> Wobbley: You want mysql channel.
[12:37] <UbuntuFanatic> Wobbley, I can help though.
[12:37] <UbuntuFanatic> PM?
[12:37] <Wobbley> UbuntuFanatic: sure, thanks :p
[12:37] <Wobbley> red2kic: There is a mysql channel? :P
[12:37] <red2kic> Wobbley: There must be.
[12:37] <UbuntuFanatic> #mysql
[12:38] <sipior> airtonix: is that a no?
[12:38] <macca> all i need is for wubi to install 10.10 instead of 10.04 now
[12:38] <airtonix> sipior: i wouldn't know becuase i did not set up a Network Information Service
[12:38] <sipior> airtonix: also, what does "automount" report?
[12:38] <hilmi> hi all. I installed natty beta2. before that I used 10.10 with 2.6.32 kernel since the default kernel didn't support my hardware. now I tried to do the same, installed old kernel, but the boot menu is different now. But it doesn't boot now. What can I do? I don't want to use linux without acpi support?
[12:38] <Pici> hilmi : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:38] <red2kic> hilmi: #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <UbuntuFanatic> hilmi,
[12:39] <UbuntuFanatic> I said earlier,
[12:39] <UbuntuFanatic> Shift-->Boot Menu-->Previous Ubuntu Versions-->Pick a Kernel
[12:39] <UbuntuFanatic> (:
[12:39] <UbuntuFanatic> I had to do the same.
[12:39] <Pici> UbuntuFanatic: Could you ease up on using the enter key?
[12:39] <airtonix> sipior: automount creates the same error in syslog
[12:40] <sipior> airtonix: -d switch doesn't show anything more?
[12:40] <airtonix> sipior: no, using -d produces no stdout output
[12:41] <sipior> airtonix: also, why did you add the automount: entry in /etc/nsswitch.conf? was that there to begin with?
[12:41] <UbuntuFanatic> Pici, sorry.
[12:41] <sipior> airtonix: ah, i see why you did that.
[12:41] <airtonix> sipior: no, i did that later on when reading bug reports on launchpad about lucid and autofs, after i googled the error about invalid nsswitch)
[12:41] <macca> still says 10.04.1 whatever i try
[12:41] <mithran> when i execute command 'lsof <filename>', i get no result, then 'echo $?' gives 1, any idea why it could be failing or how i can find out why?
[12:42] <jrib> mithran: what are you executing exactly?
[12:43] <sipior> airtonix: i assume host edge has been configured to share this volume with your machine, and can resolve its name?
[12:44] <airtonix> sipior: i can mount it manually from the lucid machine using the mount command : ie $ mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 edge.home:/ /share/nfs/edge.home
[12:44] <AnggaDj98> macca: partition your hard drive, write the iso image to your USB stick, run it up on BIOS boot-up. Pick install Ubuntu, choose your drive to install it in, choose your time, choose your keyboard layout, choose your username, and wait.
[12:44] <AnggaDj98> dang he left.
[12:45] <AnggaDj98> ""
[12:46] <B9> I am  looking for a Yellow Dog Linux ISO file for a PowerPC G4 but none of the mirrors are working for me, does anybody know where I can access the file from please?
[12:46] <jrib> B9: this is #ubuntu
[12:46] <abrotmann> hi
[12:46] <abrotmann> help
[12:46] <bittin> hi
[12:46] <bittin> with?
[12:47] <B9> jrib: i know, i am in #yellowdog as well, i was just hoping someone may know :-S
[12:47] <Pici> B9: try ##linux for 'general' linux help.
[12:47] <bazhang> B9, check distrowatch.com for mirrors
[12:48] <AnggaDj98> Pici, are you a bot or a human?
[12:48] <bonhoffer> is there a way to have chromium as my browser that opens from links in terminal
[12:48] <skpl> preferred applications
[12:49] <AnggaDj98> bonhoffer: set chromium as default application
[12:49] <AnggaDj98> for web browsing
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> bonhoffer:  not your system default browser but jus for the terminaL?
[12:49] <Pici> AnggaDj98: I think therefore I am.  Also, why do I keep getting asked that?!
[12:49] <AnggaDj98> Pici, because, you write with capitals like bot
[12:49] <AnggaDj98> a bot
[12:49] <bonhoffer> i guess i want to change my ubuntu default browser
[12:49] <ThinkT510> Pici: they admire your efficiency
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Pici of Borg.. :)
[12:50] <AnggaDj98> ThinkT510: agreed.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> bonhoffer:  most of the browsers have a menu item/setting to set themself as the default. or they ask when you first run them.
[12:50] <bonhoffer> Dr_Willis, no for everything
[12:50] <sipior> airtonix: do you really need to specify the port number?
[12:51] <bonhoffer> Dr_Willis, chromium is already installed
[12:51] <kielanmatt> how come there is no package for a k8 processor kernel anymore?
[12:51] <AnggaDj98> bonhoffer: System > Preferences > Prefered Applications > Web Browser > Pick chromium
[12:52] <bonhoffer> AnggaDj98, thanks
[12:52] <B9> Pici: fanX
[12:52] <AnggaDj98> np bonhoffer
[12:52] <B9> bazhang: thanx
[12:53] <kielanmatt> where could I get a k8 kernel package?
[12:53] <sipior> airtonix: also, does adding the --verbose switch to auotmount add anything useful to your log file?
[12:53] <airtonix> sipior: i don't have to on the maverick machine when i manually mount it : $ sudo mount edge.home:/ /share/nfs/edge.home
[12:53] <camer0n_> Hi, having a problem when running sudo apt-get install -f: dpkg: "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic:
[12:53] <camer0n_>  linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (= 2.6.35.28.36); however:
[12:53] <camer0n_>   Package linux-image-generic is not configured yet."
[12:53] <sipior> airtonix: but you do on the lucid machine?
[12:54] <kielanmatt> I am on 10.10 with the 2.6.31.32 kernel and I want a k8 version, how do i do that
[12:54] <airtonix> yeah, otherwise i get : server denied connection
[12:54] <kielanmatt> without compiling the kernel myself?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> kielanmatt:  I think thats you ronly option these days
[12:54] <kielanmatt> Dr_Willis: why?
[12:54] <CarlFK> what is the hotkey to lock the screen?
[12:54] <kielanmatt> Dr_Willis: there used to be packages for dapper?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> kielanmatt:  they eliminated all the special kernels..
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> or most of them :)
[12:55] <niq1984> camer0n_: try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic
[12:55] <red2kic> CarlFK: Ctrl + Alt + L
[12:56] <kielanmatt> Dr_Willis: if I compile custom kernel... how do I get the updates?
[12:56] <kielanmatt> Dr_Willis: are there any non canonical repos you could get a k8 package?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !kernel | kielanmatt
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> kielanmatt:  no idea. Im not even what a k8 is.. or why you feel you need one.
[12:56] <camer0n_> niq1984: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic
[12:56] <camer0n_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-image-generic is broken or not fully installed
[12:56] <kielanmatt> its optimized for my CPU
[12:57] <kielanmatt> !Mainline
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> kielanmatt:  and how much do you really think you will gain? 10%? 20%?
[12:57] <kielanmatt> 5%
[12:57] <kielanmatt> !Stages
[12:58] <niq1984> camer0n_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[12:58] <airtonix> sipior: http://dpaste.com/533162/
[12:58] <ThinkT510> !botabuse | kielanmatt
[12:59] <kesor> i have only wireless, and i have this other laptop what doesent have wireless, can i put a internet cable between this pc thats connected to internet to the other one and get a connection?
[13:00] <camer0n_> niq1984, Setting up linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic (2.6.35-22.35) ...
[13:00] <camer0n_> Running depmod.
[13:00] <camer0n_> Failed to run depmod
[13:00] <camer0n_> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic (--configure):
[13:00] <camer0n_>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[13:00] <FloodBot2> camer0n_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <camer0n_> Setting up linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic (2.6.35-28.50) ...
[13:00] <airtonix> sipior: i get same syslog entries on the maverick machine though
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !ics  | kesor
[13:00] <camer0n_> oops
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> kesor:  you may need a crossover cable. and instll a dhcp server..
[13:00] <sipior> airtonix: any interesting log entries on the file server?
[13:00] <camer0n_> oops... might start using pastebin ;)
[13:01] <UbuntuFanatic> Who was talking about me about MySQL again?
[13:01] <UbuntuFanatic> :3
[13:01] <rob_p> camer0n_: probably a good idea if posting more than 1 or 2 lines :)
[13:01] <camer0n_> rob_p, yeah... didn't realise there was that much :P
[13:01] <bittin> Somone know what time the 28th the next Kubuntu is released?
[13:02] <bittin> or if thats released some other day?
[13:02] <Pici> bittin: When its done.
[13:03] <airtonix> sipior: /var/log/syslog /var/log/daemon.log reveal nothing relevant
[13:03] <BlouBlou> !natty | bittin; surelly will be released at 18:00 GMT or something like that
[13:04] <m|kael> hello, i would like to add a site in apache2 for wildcard subdomains. kinda like *.dev.domain > /var/www-dev/* can anyone help me with it please, u use the lamp package which comes with ubuntu server
[13:04] <sipior> airtonix: bizarre. i guess an upgrade for the machine isn't an option?
[13:05] <niq1984> camer0n_: still not ok?
[13:05] <airtonix> sipior: not until i confirm other xbmc users have flawless hdmi audio output with atom/ion2 motherboards
[13:05] <ThinkT510> m|kael: there is a #ubuntu-server channel, perhaps they are more suited to answer you question
[13:06] <sipior> airtonix: fair enough. well, not sure what else to tell you, sorry.
[13:06] <m|kael> ThinkT510: thank you :-)
[13:06] <ThinkT510> m|kael: np
[13:06] <sipior> airtonix: i assume the network setup is identical for the two machines?
[13:06] <skpl> does anyone kow if unity will work with the i810 video chipset?
[13:06] <camer0n_> niq1984, yeah - laptop touchpad isn't as great to use. just got a mouse and will paste the error details into pastebin in a sec
[13:06] <airtonix> sipior: pretty much, they both get details from dhcp server and a bind9 dns server
[13:07] <niq1984> camer0n_: ok
[13:07] <camer0n_> niq1984, http://pastebin.com/wjzJRq7J
[13:08] <dman_> Anyone know what I can use to run local commands on remote machine.
[13:08] <Bipul> how to create a file via terminal
[13:08] <YankDownUnder> dman_, ssh
[13:08] <airtonix> dman_: ssh ?
[13:08] <airtonix> Bipul: touch
[13:08] <dman_> remote machine doesn't have the same command....but yes ssh
[13:08] <camer0n_> dman_, maybe your thinking of something like screen or tmux?
[13:08] <YankDownUnder> !ssh
[13:08] <Bipul> touch?
[13:08] <airtonix> Bipul: read up on touch and bash pipes and bash redirects
[13:09] <airtonix> Bipul: $ man touch
[13:10] <llutz_> Bipul: >file
[13:10] <dman_> camer0n: will look at those thanks
[13:12] <camer0n_> niq1984, any ideas?
[13:12] <abrotmann> camer0n_,
[13:12] <abrotmann> !ask
[13:13] <niq1984> camer0n_: no, but I see linux-image-generic depends to linux-image-2.6.35-generic, but this one is not configured, so maybe try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.35-generic
[13:13] <beer_brouwer> hello
[13:13] <niq1984> ugh
[13:13] <lampe2> hey how can i install openjdk for only one user in his home folder?
[13:14] <niq1984> it's strange that apt-get install -f dosn't do it
[13:14] <iceroot> lampe2: why not install it for all and only set for one user JAVA_HOME to openjdk? (e.g. in bashrc)
[13:14] <camer0n_> niq1984, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic
[13:14] <camer0n_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic is broken or not fully installed
[13:15] <lampe2> iceroot cause i got no root rights
[13:15] <niq1984> camer0n_: lol, ok, so apt-get install --reinstall this package
[13:15] <aperson> my numberpad is controlling my mouse - I don't have any 'assistive technologies' turned on, what happened here?
[13:15] <iceroot> lampe2: then you should build the openjdk from source in the home of that user
[13:15] <aperson> nevermind, I'm an idiot
[13:15] <lampe2> iceroot how can i do this?
[13:16] <camer0n_> niq1984, heh, sounds recursive
[13:16] <iceroot> lampe2: download the source and have a look at the readme there
[13:17] <lampe2> iceroot thx i will look for it
[13:18] <camer0n_> niq1984, http://pastebin.com/hiMYPw5W
[13:18] <lampe2> problem nr2 i downloaded the newest eclipse and give it rights to run as app but i wont start ?
[13:18] <pk__> is there any application which can act as a proxy server and forward all requests to a HTTP[which allow CONNECT request to any port] proxy server??
[13:18] <varun> hello all. i am trying to access my windows 7 network files through my ubuntu computer. I installed samba. when i double click the windows network icon under networks, it opens, but shows up empty, even though i have shared files from my windows comp.
[13:19] <jussi> Im looking for an open source arabic font - can anyone direct me?
[13:19] <hyper> hello every one
[13:19] <hyper> i need help
[13:19] <Guest75879> i need to enable paint screen with fire in my ubuntu 10.10
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> varun:  windows can be picky and annoying. :) you did check your /etc/samba/smb.conf to make syre you are in teh same workgroup? also you may want to try entering the full address to the share: ctrl-l in the filemanager window and its like   smb://servernameORipNumber/sharename
[13:19] <Guest75879> how do i do it from synaptic manager
[13:19] <Guest75879> ?
[13:19] <bazhang> Guest75879, try #compiz
[13:20] <bazhang> !ccsm | Guest75879
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest75879:  theres extra plugins in the repos you may need to install.
[13:20] <Guest75879> i already have the compiz fusion
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest75879:  use that 'ccsm' tool to enable it.
[13:20] <bazhang> Guest75879, apt-cache search compiz for the plugins
[13:20] <camer0n_> niq1984,  can i do a purge and remove the linux-image?
[13:21] <niq1984> camer0n_: ok, do depmod -A then apt-get clean and apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic
[13:21] <BlipInTheData> Hello people.
[13:21] <syriux> hello Blip
[13:22] <Guest75879> i dont have the fire option
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest75879:  check package manager for the extra compiz plugins.. and install them
[13:22] <Guest75879> last time i did sumthing from synaptic manager with irc help
[13:22] <niq1984> camer0n_: maybe debfile is broken
[13:22] <BlipInTheData> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a netbook, I have installed the iso on a usb stick. However, when I start the netbook, and it tries to boot from the usb, it just prints: "SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS".
[13:22] <camer0n_> niq1984, ooh.... Bus Error on the depmod -A
[13:23] <Guest75879> k
[13:23] <Guest75879> m downloading it
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  how did you make the usb stick? could be it was made wrongly
[13:23] <Guest75879> lets c
[13:23] <Guest75879> :)
[13:23] <BlipInTheData> I made it with the included usb-creator.
[13:23] <Guest75879> meanwhile let me know to update my default firefox browseer
[13:23] <Guest75879> *browser
[13:23] <bazhang> !fx4
[13:24] <varun> Dr_Willis: thanks . i am going to try out your suggestions.
[13:24] <bazhang> Guest75879, ^
[13:24] <BlipInTheData> Dr_Willis: I made it with the included usb-creator.
[13:24] <Guest75879> bazhang ?
[13:24] <camer0n_> niq1984, how do you fix a broken deb file?
[13:24] <Guest75879> how do i update my firefox
[13:24] <Guest75879> ?
[13:24] <bazhang> Guest75879, look above
[13:24] <Bipul> How to put a packeges in a file via terminal
[13:25] <bazhang> Bipul, clarify please
[13:25] <Bipul>  i have made a file name control in DEBINA directory and now i wants to move a package over there
[13:25] <Guest75879> k
[13:26] <varun> dr_willis: i dont know how to figure out the same group etc in the conf file. My windows shares on homegroup.
[13:26] <niq1984> camer0n_: apt-get clean and install again
[13:26] <niq1984> or download
[13:26] <Bipul> bazhang,  i have made a file name control in DEBINA directory and now i wants to move a package over there from tmpdir/
[13:26] <camer0n_> niq1984, read your mind. doing that now :)
[13:26] <camer0n_> niq1984, will let you know how it goes
[13:26] <Bipul> bazhang,  i have made a file name control in DEBINA directory and now i wants to move a package over there from tmpdir/ as it having xbomb_2.1a-7.1_i386.deb
[13:26] <mikelietz_> I'm having mounting trouble. Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[13:26] <mikelietz_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mount failed
[13:26] <bazhang> Bipul, what is debina directory, explain what you are trying to do with some greater clarity
[13:26] <mikelietz_> thing is, I'm using a thumb drive to boot
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> varun:  it has a setting near the top that says workgroup=
[13:27] <Bipul> bazhang,  can i pm you
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> varun:  try tnereing the smb://server/share type address in the filemanager.
[13:27] <bazhang> Bipul, talk here
[13:27] <niq1984> camer0n_: i'm looking right now howto fix this problem with depmod :)
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> mikelietz_:  try to mount it by hand. sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/makeadir
[13:27] <bazhang> Bipul, xbomb is in the repos install from there
[13:28] <camer0n_> niq1984, awesome.thanks!
[13:28] <Bipul> yes i have already installed it in my tmpdir
[13:28] <bazhang> Bipul, no, sudo apt-get install xbomb
[13:28] <Bipul> i made a directory name so called tmpdir  whear xbom is there
[13:28] <mikelietz_> Dr_Willis: ok, that worked there at least. But how do I get it to mount at boot again?
[13:29] <mikelietz_> Dr_Willis: Because /dev/sdb1 is the root for my real installation.
[13:29] <Bipul> but in tmpdir there is workplace /debian/ control  here control is a file
[13:29] <Bipul> and i want to put the packages there
[13:29] <varun> dr_willis: workgroup=WORKGROUP in smb.conf. should i change that to "homegroup"? Also, i dont know where to enter smb:server etc ? i am very new to all this
[13:29] <bazhang> Bipul, thats not how to install packages
[13:29] <mikelietz_> Dr_Willis: I take it back. This appears to be / from the thumb drive, not the hard disk
[13:30] <perlsyntax> hey anyone try out 11.04 beta for ubuntu?
[13:30] <arand> !natty | perlsyntax
[13:30] <bazhang> perlsyntax, #ubuntu+1 please
[13:30] <jozefk> anybody hapy with unity DE?
[13:30] <BlipInTheData> So anyone have any tips on how to continue with my problem ?
[13:30] <bazhang> jozefk, in 11.04?
[13:30] <jozefk> yes
[13:30] <perlsyntax> arand,i was hope they got the wireless to wwork.
[13:31] <bazhang> jozefk, #ubuntu+1 for 11.04
[13:31] <jozefk> perlsyntax I tried and it works fine. I just didn't like the unity I think
[13:31] <camer0n_> niq1984,  the not so good results from the install: http://pastebin.com/AzK0e68A
[13:31] <jozefk> ok
[13:31] <mikelietz_> Dr_Willis: OK, tried it again (typed the wrong device last time) and now it seems to be mounted.
[13:31] <shomon> sorry, OT, but does anyone know of a channel to do with web strategy or accessibility and things like that?
[13:32] <perlsyntax> jozefk,I have prob with wireless in ubuntu 10.10
[13:32] <bazhang> !alis | shomon
[13:32] <bazhang> perlsyntax, #ubuntu+1 please
[13:32] <shomon> thanks bazhang !
[13:32] <varun> dr_willis: i can't even edit the smb.conf file
[13:32] <niq1984> camer0n_: are u using 2.6.35-22 right now?
[13:32] <perlsyntax> how rude
[13:32] <UbuntuFanatic> perlsyntax,
[13:32] <oriano2> buenos dias, como hago para hablar en el canal ubuntu-br? gracias.
[13:32] <UbuntuFanatic> You are using 10.10
[13:32] <UbuntuFanatic> You ask here.
[13:32] <camer0n_> niq1984, how do i tell?
[13:32] <bazhang> perlsyntax, pardon?
[13:32] <UbuntuFanatic> Not in #ubuntu+1
[13:32] <FloodBot2> UbuntuFanatic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <niq1984> camer0n_: uname -a
[13:33] <UbuntuFanatic> bazhang, he is using 10.10..
[13:33] <camer0n_> uname -a
[13:33] <camer0n_> Linux Buttons 2.6.35-22-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 20:45:36 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:33] <Kartagis> hello
[13:33] <camer0n_> niq1984,  so yes :)
[13:34] <Kartagis> what shell grants a user ftp access but doesn't grant ssh access?
[13:35] <iceroot> Kartagis: /bin/false  (ftp doesnt need a shell)
[13:36] <Kartagis> iceroot: I've tried that, the user can neither ssh not ftp
[13:36] <pfifo> @find a strong cup of coffee.avi
[13:36] <Kartagis> iceroot: ftp to their own place I mean
[13:36] <oriano2> por favor, como cambiarme para ubuntu-br?
[13:36] <DJones> !br | oriano2
[13:37] <oriano2> gracias ubottu
[13:37] <m|kael> Kartagis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html try this =)
[13:37] <Kartagis> oriano2: escribe /j #ubuntu-tr
[13:37] <aguitel> is there anyway to try gnome 3 in lucid ?
[13:38] <oriano2> en terminal, kastagis?
[13:38] <bazhang> Kartagis, presumably you mean -br as -tr is for Turkey
[13:38] <chilli0> Hello, I keep on getting this error when I try to do install a program. I am at the make stage when I get this. configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0)
[13:38] <camer0n_> niq1984, do i need to be using a different linux image or something?
[13:38] <oriano2> comprendi, kartagis, queria escribir br
[13:39] <bazhang> oriano2, /join #ubuntu-br
[13:39] <Kartagis> sorry, #ubuntu-br
[13:39] <pfifo> niq1984, you probbally need the *-dev packages that contain header files
[13:39] <UbuntuFanatic> chilli0,
[13:40] <BlipInTheData> Dr_Willis, fixed it, installed it from a linux machine now.
[13:40] <BlipInTheData> The windows machine managed to fuck the image.
[13:40] <UbuntuFanatic> sudo apt-get install gtk+ gtk2
[13:40] <BlipInTheData> Ironic >.>
[13:40] <ThinkT510> !language | BlipInTheData
[13:40] <chilli0> Thanks UbuntuFanatic. I think I got it, sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev
[13:40] <UbuntuFanatic> Ah
[13:40] <bazhang> BlipInTheData, no cursing please
[13:40] <UbuntuFanatic> I thought it was gtk+ gtk2
[13:40] <BlipInTheData> Sorry =)
[13:40] <UbuntuFanatic> after reading
[13:40] <UbuntuFanatic> some forum.
[13:41] <chilli0> Thanks anyway :)
[13:41] <oriano2> perdon kartagis, donde escribo ubuntu-br, no recuerdome...
[13:41] <BlipInTheData> bazhang, I was excited >.>
[13:41] <IdleOne> !br | oriano2
[13:41] <Kartagis> oriano2: en IRC cliente
[13:42] <carlitosh> hi
[13:43] <niq1984> camer0n_: ok, depmod -a
[13:43] <carlitosh> i am the windows installer, but it doesnt work
[13:44] <carlitosh> wubi does not seem to work
[13:44] <carlitosh> some help?
[13:45] <camer0n_> niq1984, Bus Error
[13:45] <ThinkT510> carlitosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting
[13:45] <dr3mro> what is the best netbook to run ubuntu
[13:45] <skpl> does anyonme know if gnome 3 will be available for maverick meerkat?
[13:45] <mattgman> it is available, i've tried it
[13:45] <niq1984> camer0n_: so i have no idea how to resolve this issue
[13:45] <niq1984> sorry
[13:45] <camer0n_> niq1984, yeah :(
[13:45] <camer0n_> niq1984, thanks for your help
[13:45] <niohubala> dr3mro, I run it smoothly on Acer Aspire One, but I had to mess with gpu drivers. There are excellent guides on the internet though
[13:46] <camer0n_> maybe some one else may know :S
[13:46] <mattgman> skpl, i believe it is 'sudo apt-get install gnome3-session', but google it first
[13:47] <niohubala> it's a pity Gnome is dropped. But I do hope it makes Ubuntu/Linux more popular. Will future programs in the Ubuntu repo run on Gnome 3?
[13:47] <Wobbley> UbuntuFanatic is an amazing and sexy man! *runs around bouncing in joy*
[13:47] <dr3mro> niohubala, are netbook Ok , or just a slow small laptop ,, I mean is Aspire one with ubuntu good in multitasking .. I intend to use it to read books in pdf , HTML ,watch youtube ,, movies and write some python code !!! will it suit my needs
[13:48] <niohubala> dr3mro, if you intend to use it for all these things together, I disrecommend you the Aspire One
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[13:48] <sion> isconnect
[13:52] <bullgard4> "The Au file format is a simple audio file format introduced by Sun Microsystems. The format was common on NeXT systems and on early Web pages.  I have got a few .au files on my Ubuntu computer. Video Player reports: "An error occurred. The data stream has the wrong format, " if I call one of them. What Ubuntu program will play .au files?
[13:52] <bullgard4> VLC does not play it either.
[13:53] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1235141 bullgard4
[13:53] <bazhang> bullgard4, convert it
[13:53] <iceroot> bullgard4: maybe have a look at "apt-cache search au file" or something similar
[13:54] <mattgman> yeah, id convert it, bullgard4
[13:54] <mattgman> bullgard4, http://www.wav-mp3.com/convert-au-to-mp3.htm
[13:55] <mattgman> looks like that might be the page you got the info from
[13:57] <hal> is it possible to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.10?
[13:58] <hal> (directly)?
[13:58] <reber> hi
[13:58] <maco> hal: thats not supported
[13:58] <DJones> hal: It is, but you need to go through 10.04 first
[13:58] <hal> right, ok thanks
[13:58] <maco> DJones: i think that wasnt what hal meant by "directly" :P
[13:59] <hal> maco: you are right, but I got the gist ;)
[13:59] <DJones> maco: Yes, I realised that as as I pressed the enter key and saw that directly had appeared on the next line
[14:01] <bullgard4> iceroot: Are you sure that you did not make a mistake? '~$ apt-cache search au file' produces more than 200 lines of output.
[14:02] <iceroot> bullgard4: "or something like that"
[14:02] <iceroot> bullgard4: feel free to use other searchstrings "au file" is the search string
[14:02] <EbanSoul> how do you install the opensource video drivers for 10.10 ?
[14:03] <bazhang> bullgard4, sox can convert it
[14:03] <iceroot> EbanSoul: for what?
[14:03] <EbanSoul> for ubuntu 10.10
[14:03] <iceroot> EbanSoul: there is more then one vga out there :)
[14:03] <EbanSoul> oh sorry ati radeon
[14:03] <iceroot> !ati | EbanSoul
[14:04] <EbanSoul> k tyvm
[14:04] <Time`s_Witness> Hey all.. im having problems on my laptop connecting to wireless in ubuntu. I have pretty much 100% packet loss to gateway itself, even when pinging ip instead hosts (not a dns problem), let alone outer addresses. It's not a hardware problem, i can connect with no problems from same laptop in windows :X Googling for some hours already and didn't find a way around the issue. Anyone got a clue of what could be?
[14:05] <reber> is lucid the latest lts stable ?
[14:05] <iceroot> reber: yes
[14:05] <reber> k thx
[14:05] <Ben64> next lts is next year
[14:05] <hal> if you had a preference, would you use the upgrade manager to upgrade to the next version, or download and burn the disk and upgrade using that?
[14:06] <bazhang> hal, the alternate cd can do that
[14:06] <Time`s_Witness> I'm using 10.04 LTS btw
[14:06] <hal> bazhang: wgat alternate cd?
[14:06] <bazhang> hal, is there a separate home partition or not
[14:06] <bazhang> !alternate | hal
[14:07] <iceroot> hal: update online. the alternate cd doesnt have the newest packages, so you have to redownload mayn of them, also with alternate you are donwloading packages you dont need
[14:10] <hal> bazhang: home is on a separate partition
[14:11] <bazhang> hal, I'd follow iceroot 's advice
[14:13] <jfb_h20> hey folks, I have a  problem it seems with my GPU, I've made a post to the forums, but so far no response, anyone up for having a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1725957
[14:13] <Eddy> hello
[14:13] <Eddy> i am trying to upgrade from maverick to natty
[14:13] <Eddy> i get an error
[14:13] <ThinkT510> !natty | Eddy
[14:14] <bazhang> Eddy, #ubuntu+1 please
[14:17] <Eddy> caused or due to installed packages have unmet dependencies
[14:18] <iceroot> Eddy: wrong channel, also, dont use a beta if you cant handle things like that
[14:18] <ThinkT510> Eddy: this channel is for support of stable releases, natty isn't stable thus not supported here
[14:19] <bullgard4> bazhang: '~$ sox /media/WD1.5_1/Music/Vincenzo\ Bellini/Sprachsendungen/Armut_data/e00/d00/e0000a6u.au ~/tmp/e0000a6a.mp3; sox FAIL formats: no handler for file extension ¸mp3'.'
[14:22] <toonooyyccee> hello?
[14:22] <jfb_h20> ping
[14:22] <toonooyyccee> yes
[14:22] <bazhang> bullgard4, what about soundconverter
[14:25] <bullgard4> bazhang: Using sox I transcoded the .au file into a .ogg file. I can hear a sound but much faster (about 3 times than normal speech) and terminating prematurely. The premature end may be due to a deficiency in my .au file which is only 1 MB in size.
[14:26] <bazhang> bullgard4, could be
[14:26] <bazhang> bullgard4, the package soundconverter in repos may be worth a try as well
[14:27] <bazhang> !info soundconverter
[14:27] <bullgard4> bazhang: Thank you for your valuable hint. I am just reading the description of the DEB program package »soundconverter«.
[14:28] <bazhang> bullgard4, hope it works better
[14:28] <Guest77213> soundconvert took 21 min to convert 11.2G itunes to something rhythmbox could play
[14:29] <DreamsofanEagle> Hey all, I've got a question. How do I allow the Software Center to allow the installation of untrusted packages?
[14:29] <Guest94491> http://unhide-torrents.com/
[14:29] <bazhang> Guest94491, dont paste that here
[14:30] <mogaj> how to detect ipod in ubuntu 10.10...
[14:31] <ThinkT510> !ipod | mogaj
[14:31] <antant> Hey guys. Where might I find someone on the binutils team?
[14:31] <DreamsofanEagle> Anyone?
[14:31] <Yella> Hello guys
[14:31] <bazhang> mogaj, gtkpod, banshee rhythmbox
[14:31] <Yella> I have a quick question
[14:31] <BlouBlou> Yella: then ask it
[14:31] <Yella> sorry on my cellphone hard to type lol
[14:32] <schnuffle> DreamsofanEagle: Do you have a localpackage or another repository?
[14:32] <Yella> OKay I have a terminal window open on my server the is running a java app
[14:32] <Yella> Is there anyway to interact with the window over SSH?
[14:32] <mogaj> ubotto : my ipod froze when i connected to my lappy ... pls help me out
[14:33] <schnuffle> Yella: You can use X11Forwarding when you have a X Server installed locally
[14:33] <DreamsofanEagle> I dunno,
[14:33] <schnuffle> DreamsofanEagle: What package do you want to install?
[14:33] <DreamsofanEagle> currently on 11.04 Beta2, trying to install a paint program
[14:33] <DreamsofanEagle> gimme a sec
[14:33] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> helloo
[14:33] <Yella> I have X server installed on the server
[14:33] <Alvo> hello, how can i put the ubuntu bell sound on the audio output?
[14:34] <DreamsofanEagle> Pinta Image Editor
[14:34] <Yella> But not on the phone i'm using SSH
[14:34] <DreamsofanEagle> its in the Software center
[14:34] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> help
[14:34] <Yella> So i'm screwed
[14:34] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, with what
[14:34] <schnuffle> Yella: you need a X server on the client to show the java app on your client
[14:34] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> need help
[14:34] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, with what
[14:34] <Yella> Well, its just text output into a terminal window
[14:34] <Yella> That the java app is pushing out
[14:34] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> bazhang: with a questionn
[14:34] <Yella> There is no gui
[14:35] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, then ask it
[14:35] <ENOSLEEP> !ask | fuhckfffdsfdjnjf
[14:35] <Pici> !enter
[14:35] <schnuffle> DreamsofanEagle: And what happens when you try to install it? Normally you'll be told that it's untrusted but you can still install it
[14:35] <bullgard4> bazhang: SoundConverter reports this error: "Error. Gstreamer error: GStreamer noted a general datastream error." So  I better be content with sox. -- Thank you very much for your help.
[14:35] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> ok well my question is is here somebody who can help me
[14:35] <Yella> Like I can kill the app, then launch it from ssh and it works fine
[14:35] <syrinx_> lol
[14:35] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, depends, ask and find out
[14:35] <ENOSLEEP> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf: just ask what you need help with.
[14:35] <Yella> But there are people connected no so I can't do that
[14:36] <bazhang> bullgard4, okay good luck
[14:36] <bullgard4> Thank you.
[14:36] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> me
[14:36] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> ok
[14:36] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> i want to know if i should kde or gnome
[14:36] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, #ubuntu-offtopic knows
[14:36] <schnuffle> Yella: you can run the java app in a screen and connect to that
[14:37] <Yella> Well i'm away, and I need to run a command in an already open terminal window on the server
[14:37] <schnuffle> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf: I prefer KDE but would suggest to use gnome because it's better supported with ubuntu
[14:38] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> ok the thing i
[14:38] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> s
[14:38] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> i DONT want unity ...
[14:38] <ENOSLEEP> Yella: then, you're out of luck, unless you turned on remote access, typically over vnc.
[14:38] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, please dont poll here
[14:38] <Yella> I was hoping I could just steal the output of a terminal window in SSH
[14:38] <fuhckfffdsfdjnjf> can you tell me if i can gnome under 11.10
[14:38] <bazhang> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf, as I have said: #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[14:38] <tjiggi_fo> bazhang, fuhckfffdsfdjnjf is asddssasd, same guy who was in here yesterday trolling with the same inane question
[14:38] <Yella> you know of any android apps to do that ENOSLEEP q?
[14:38] <schnuffle> fuhckfffdsfdjnjf: you can
[14:39] <bazhang> tjiggi_fo, yep
[14:39] <bazhang> Yella, ask in an android channel
[14:39] <ENOSLEEP> Yella: there are vnc clients for android, I think, and I know you can do port forwarding using ConnectBot.
[14:39] <Bipul> is there anyway in vmare or Virtual OS to install 64bit computer when we have originally 32 bit computers
[14:39] <Yella> I use NXFree on windows, but there is no Android version
[14:39] <matteppi> Hi guys, i've just installed on a virtual machine Ubuntu server 10.04 amd64 LTS, without the graphic interface, i don't know how to run 2 program , together. I have program1 and program2 on the home folder, and I want to run them at the same time.
[14:39] <schnuffle> Yella: thre's a vnc client for android
[14:39] <Bipul> is there anyway in vmare or Virtual OS to install 64bit OS on computer when we have originally 32 bit computers
[14:39] <Yella> cool
[14:40] <bazhang> Bipul, patience dont repeat every five seconds
[14:40] <DreamsofanEagle> BAH
[14:41] <schnuffle> matteppi:  what abbout using /path/to/programm1 & and  /path/to/programm2 &
[14:41] <DreamsofanEagle> Anyway...  I'm trying to install Pinta the Pinta Image Editor through the software center, but it won't allow it because its downloading from untrusted sources
[14:41] <ThinkT510> Bipul: you want a 64bit vm on a 32bit host running a 32bit cpu?
[14:41] <DreamsofanEagle> and then the program crashes
[14:41] <Bipul> yes ThinkT510
[14:41] <Bipul> is it possible ?
[14:42] <schnuffle> DreamsofanEagle: so you shouldn't  use Beta Software if you not sure how to handle problems
[14:42] <ThinkT510> Bipul: not sure if you can do that, and if you could it would be rather slow
[14:42] <matteppi> schnuffle: will they run at the same time, or once one is completed, the other one will run?
[14:42] <DreamsofanEagle> forget it
[14:42] <DreamsofanEagle> you people really need to figure out how to treat people
[14:42] <Bipul> BUt is there anything in Open SOurce that can help in out this situation
[14:43] <schnuffle> matteppi:  the & sign tells the program to detach from the console and run in the background so at the end they both run in background
[14:43] <matteppi> schnuffle: and can I, reattach the console, then? maybe to just one of the 2
[14:43] <schnuffle> yes there's the fg command
[14:44] <Fanzy> fg
[14:44] <matteppi> how to use?
[14:44] <ThinkT510> Bipul: i suppose it depends on the emulator, try asking in virtualbox forums or qemu
[14:44] <schnuffle> or you can use screen to do the same but keep both in the foreground
[14:44] <matteppi> what does fg do?
[14:44] <schnuffle> man fg
[14:44] <bajk-tragbar> what's wrong with policykit in maverick and natty?!
[14:45] <bajk-tragbar> why even bother havvving a "remember authorization" checkbox?
[14:45] <schnuffle> sorry, it brings the last detached process back
[14:45] <bajk-tragbar> if it asks EVERY SINGLE time
[14:46] <pointerroyden> hi
[14:50] <schnuffle> !ask | pointerroyden
[14:50] <B9> i open the Disk Utility in Ubuntu 10.10 and i can see a USB device it says it is @ /dev/sdb1 & that it isn't mounted but when I go to mount it it says: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[14:50] <B9> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mount failed. Any ideas how i can  mount it?
[14:52] <schnuffle> B9: what file system is on the USB?
[14:53] <B9> schnuffle: i remormatted it to FAT but the underlying format is Master Boot Record
[14:53] <B9> *reformatted
[14:54] <schnuffle> B9: in a terminal: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /yourmountpoint
[14:56] <Average_Guy> is there a linux I can download that comes packaged with all of the wireless drivers?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: that's near impossible
[14:56] <iceroot> Average_Guy: no
[14:56] <bazhang> Average_Guy, try ##linux this is ubuntu support
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: the amount of data would be astronomical
[14:56] <Average_Guy> :(
[14:56] <iceroot> Average_Guy: distributors ar enot allowed to ship non-free firmware
[14:56] <Average_Guy> i have ubuntu
[14:56] <Average_Guy> that sux
[14:56] <bazhang> Average_Guy, then remaster it
[14:56] <bazhang> !remaster > Average_Guy
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: if you grab a wireless which uses a chip which is known to work out of the box in Ubuntu, You won't have an issue
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: all my wifi works with zero effort
[14:57] <Average_Guy> can i download the packages with windowz and copy them over
[14:57] <iceroot> Average_Guy: yes
[14:58] <iceroot> Average_Guy: you can also download the packages with "sudo apt-get install -d packagename"
[14:58] <iceroot> Average_Guy: or "packages.ubuntu.com"
[14:58] <iceroot> if there are also ne non-free branches
[14:58] <tesh> hi, we are developing a client/server system and need to send notifications from the clients to the server - what mechanisms are available to do this?
[14:59] <B9> schnuffle: i understand that in "yourmountpoint" i should insert "sda1" but it doesn't exist
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: a lot of the time your chip will have a native driver
[14:59] <iceroot> tesh: tcp/ip for example
[15:00] <schnuffle> B9: no you should create a mount point somewhere: sudo mkdir -p /media/sdb1 && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[15:00] <schnuffle> B9 the mountpoint is just a directory to which your USB will be mounted
[15:00] <Average_Guy> no, i have to have a hard internet connection to get the wireless packages with ubuntu, mint, etc.
[15:01] <tesh> iceroot: is there anything we can make use of from say perl or from a script?
[15:01] <tesh> rather than developing in c/c++
[15:01] <iceroot> tesh: client and server are on the sanem machine?
[15:01] <iceroot> same
[15:02] <tesh> iceroot: no
[15:02] <schnuffle> tesh: on the side you receive messages you need a daemon accepting messages, of course this can be done in perl,python ....
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Average_Guy: what network chip do you use?
[15:03] <schnuffle> tesh: have a look at shinken it's a python fork of nagios which essentially moves messages around
[15:03] <Briber> hi all
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> hi Briber
[15:04] <ghc> no flame, but its only me thats prefer gnome-shell instead unity?
[15:04] <tesh> i know we can always code something like that...i was just wondering if there was something available that we could easily and quickly make use of
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ghc: that's fine, use what you wish
[15:04] <tesh> scnuffle: thanks i'll take a look
[15:04] <tesh> schnuffle: thanks i'll take a look
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ghc: I prefer LXDE personally
[15:04] <ThinkT510> ghc: theres #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions if you like
[15:04] <blip-> hi, do Ubuntu LiveCD's go into standby/suspend to ram after a while ?    Mine seems to be doing that... or maybe it's just spindown hdd and screen off
[15:04] <ghc> ActionParsnip, ok, but as I notice, ubuntu will not support "officialy" the gnome-shell
[15:05] <schnuffle> tesh: http://docs.python.org/library/socketserver.html
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> ghc: gnome3 is not in the official repos, so no
[15:05] <schnuffle> tesh: I prefer python so you get python examples but any other language should provide analog stuff
[15:05] <B9> schnuffle: thank you very much it works now
[15:06] <schnuffle> B9: fine, if you have some spare time have a look at the mount man page it's huge but has a lot of info
[15:06] <ghc> ActionParsnip, imho its a bad idea to use externas ppas for main parts of system
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ghc: it can be beneficial, depends how brave you are and how important it is to you
[15:07] <Nath> a mouse with more than 3 buttons will work?
[15:07] <tesh> schnuffle: ok, so there's nothing where i can just start a daemon on the server and then start something on the client which will sent text messages to the server?
[15:08] <tesh> schnuffle: to be even lazier? :)
[15:08] <tesh> it just seems like something that would be pretty commonly done
[15:08] <schnuffle> tesh: of course: nc
[15:09] <B9> schnuffle: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#Manually_Mount_and_Unmount_a_device   is that what u meant specifically?
[15:09] <schnuffle> tesh: nc = netcat
[15:09] <ohsix> hello chaps
[15:09] <schnuffle> B9: that is better for you but man page means that for nearlyy every tool on the command line you get help with: man command
[15:10] <schnuffle> B9:  so man mount gives you help for the mount command
[15:10] <B9> man mount
[15:10] <schnuffle> B9: yes :)
[15:10] <ThinkT510> B9: in the terminal, not the irc client
[15:10] <B9> thank god i don't use irssi then
[15:10] <Marsixx> Hi guys. Can i tell you how i can auto-lock xubuntu screen with password reactivation? Thx
[15:11] <tesh> schnuffle: ok, just reading up on it now...thanks again
[15:11] <schnuffle> tesh: your welcome
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Marsixx: isn't the default shortcut Super+L
[15:12] <tesh> schnuffle: would it quite reasonable to set up client/server comms for our software in this way?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Marsixx: sorry CTRL+ALT+L
[15:12] <ghc> ActionParsnip, well, Im really thinkng of change distro.. last was gentoo, now ubuntu.. next? I think that is so important this official support. but I like ubuntu.
[15:12] <UbuntuFanatic> ghc, support for what?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ghc: have a sniff around, see what suits your needs. What is the OS for?
[15:12] <tesh> schnuffle: the daemon would need to be always running to collect notifications
[15:13] <tesh> schnuffle: and so looking for a robust solution
[15:13] <Marsixx> i need automatically after 1-2 min! I'm in remote desktop!
[15:13] <schnuffle> tesh: Yes, but I would clearly choose something more robust then nc
[15:13] <tesh> schnuffle: or is this more for one-off kind of transfers
[15:13] <ghc> Ububegin, gnome3, gnome-shell - gnome itself is a very important standard
[15:13] <doubi> Hi all. Can anyone tell me the meaning of the file names foremost gives to recovered files? Is it a timestamp of some kind? If so, does it relate to any property of the original file or does it just indicate the order in which foremost recovered the file? (I know I can't get the original filenames back, I just want to know where to wade in to find the most recent versions)
[15:13] <schnuffle> tesh: it's more for one of
[15:13] <UbuntuFanatic> Wait,
[15:13] <UbuntuFanatic> hang on.
[15:13] <UbuntuFanatic> I can't "ping ::1"
[15:13] <UbuntuFanatic> but I could in Maverick.
[15:13] <UbuntuFanatic> Why is this? ;s
[15:13] <schnuffle> tesh: in which language or software will/is written?
[15:14] <ohsix> doubi: do you mean those found in /lost+found/ ?
[15:14] <tesh> schnuffle: right yeah
[15:14] <ghc> UbuntuFanatic, gnome3, gnome-shell - gnome itself is a very important standard
[15:14] <Marsixx> ActionParsnip: need automatically after 1-2 min! I'm in remote desktop!
[15:14] <tesh> schnuffle: the other scripts we have so far are in perl
[15:14] <ohsix> UbuntuFanatic: did you actually have ipv6 connectivity in maverick?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Marsixx: do you mean RDP to windows or VNC to an Ubuntu system?
[15:14] <tesh> schnuffle: so would like to keep it in that now
[15:14] <UbuntuFanatic> ohsix, not globally, but a loopback would work.
[15:14] <cdavis_> Is gnome 3 basically gnome-shell?
[15:14] <doubi> ohsix, No, I used "foremost" manually
[15:14] <UbuntuFanatic> My ISP does not support it.
[15:14] <Pumpkin-> UbuntuFanatic: surely you want to "ping6 ::1" ?
[15:14] <UbuntuFanatic> Oh. /fail
[15:15] <ohsix> doubi: i don't know what that is, sorry
[15:15] <UbuntuFanatic> Sorry, epic fail on my part.
[15:15] <doubi> ohsix, np :)
[15:15] <zhangcheng> hi, An error occured in avast! engine: æ æçåæ°
[15:15] <Marsixx> ActionParsnip: Yes, VNC windows to Xubuntu. i need Xubuntu to auto lock screen after 1/2 min with passwd reactivation!
[15:15] <UbuntuFanatic> zhangcheng, report it!
[15:15] <schnuffle> tesh: perl isn't my domain but it should be fairly easy to write some commuinication protocoll, perl should have everything you need in CPAN
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> cdavis_: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/gnome-3-with-gnome-shell-has-finally.html
[15:15] <UbuntuFanatic> Pumpkin-, sorry. I was stupid for a second, got it now. Kudos. :)
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Marsixx: why all the exclamation marks?
[15:16] <ohsix> doubi: from the sound of it it wouldn't even be the inode number or anything like you'd find in /lost+found/ merely sequential
[15:16] <tesh> schnuffle: what should i be searching for - 'client server messaging'?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Marsixx: does VNC stop the screensaver kicking in?
[15:16] <tesh> schnuffle: im not sure what this topic is
[15:17] <schnuffle> tesh:  tcp/ip networking sockets
[15:17] <UbuntuFanatic> zchangheng, report it.
[15:17] <UbuntuFanatic> But you don't need an Anti Virus on Linux. :P!
[15:17] <schnuffle> tesh: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/sockets.shtml
[15:17] <doubi> ohsix, drat. Hmm, it's odf files I'm looking for. I guess I can search for where they record the last modified time...
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuFanatic: Its good on mail servers as well as file servers with windows clients
[15:18] <tesh> schnuffle: ah ok, i'll take a look.  thanks again for the tips
[15:18] <schnuffle> tesh: your welcome
[15:18] <UbuntuFanatic> ActionParsnip, didn't think of it like that.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuFanatic: so in those instances you do, making your statement not true
[15:18] <UbuntuFanatic> mhm.
[15:18] <ghc> its ok to have "one more graphic shell" (or maybe its not ok)
[15:18] <UbuntuFanatic> You don't actually need one though.]
[15:18] <Marsixx> ActionParsnip: Oh sorry :-P, is working fine: i set the right time in screensaver settings. Thank you for your support 'n' time ;) Bye
[15:18] <UbuntuFanatic> note, *need*
[15:19] <UbuntuFanatic> Because you aren't executing them on the linux box.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuFanatic: ;)
[15:19] <UbuntuFanatic> It's just them being served.
[15:19] <ohsix> doubi: what filesystem was it from? you could use something like testdisk which isn't forensic recovery
[15:19] <UbuntuFanatic> Ha, thanks for that. :D
[15:19] <debd> my ubuntu is bcoming increasingly slow
[15:19] <debd> things open much slower now than they used to
[15:20] <ThinkT510> debd: you sure its not just you speeding up? ;)
[15:20] <ayecee> debd: how much slower?
[15:20] <doubi> ohsix, ext4~ Looking around that seemed to mean proper doom
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuFanatic: just watch huge sweeping statements, there will be exceptions a lot of the time
[15:20] <debd> ayecee: a lot
[15:20] <UbuntuFanatic> Yeah
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> debd: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[15:20] <sisline> hello
[15:20] <ohsix> doubi: yea, sorta; if it was written to at all
[15:20] <ayecee> debd: could you quantify that?
[15:20] <debd> ThinkT510: nope. am serious
[15:21] <debd> ayecee: the busy icon bfore opening some app stays as long as 5secs
[15:21] <ayecee> debd: how long did it stay before?
[15:21] <debd> ayecee: much faster
[15:21] <doubi> ohsix, unfortunately I didn't actually realise a perl script I was working on was intermittently deleting parts of my home folder until some crucial time later :-)
[15:21] <ayecee> debd: how much faster?
[15:21] <debd> ayecee: 1sec
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> debd: can you give the output of the command I gave please
[15:21] <ayecee> debd: ok
[15:22] <debd> ayecee: man am not joking
[15:22] <debd> ActionParsnip: yeah
[15:22] <ayecee> debd: not saying you are. I just had no further questions.
[15:23] <debd> ActionParsnip: the command?
[15:23] <ThinkT510> debd: lsb_release -d
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> debd: look or scroll up...
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> debd: why do I  need to retype it, the text is just above....
[15:24] <debd> got it
[15:25] <CMH-Dan> need some help please - trying to use ubuntu 10.10 (tried 32 bit and 64 bit versions), system will hang and put the monitor to sleep - not sure why it's doing this
[15:25] <debd> that says ubuntu 10.10
[15:25] <debd> ActionParsnip: that says ubuntu 10.10
[15:25] <ohsix> CMH-Dan: do you have an s3 video card? or an nvidia one?
[15:25] <CMH-Dan> ohsix: nvidia
[15:27] <debd> ActionParsnip: r you gonna tell me something?
[15:27] <shultz_> подскажите руссикий чат
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> debd: ok and can you use: http://pastie.org   to give the output of:  sudo free -m; top -n 1 | head -n 12; sudo lshw -C display         Thanks
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> debd: be patient child
[15:28] <shultz_> русско говорящие есть
[15:28] <ThinkT510> !pl | shultz_
[15:28] <ayecee> !ru | shultz_
[15:28] <ThinkT510> ahh, sorry
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> debd: the last command will take a while, let it run
[15:29] <yoghrt> Hello, I have a problem with my mobile phone, everything is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723629, thanks for your help
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> debd: ok take the top comamnd off as it clears the screen quite annoyingly
[15:30] <sudipta> anyone using kde4.6 in ubuntu 10.10?
[15:30] <ayecee> !anyone | sudipta
[15:31] <ThinkT510> sudipta: its always best to stick to whats in the repos, otherwise we cant really help because its not officially supported
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> debd: you get the idea, 3 commands which we'd like the output of. thanks :)
[15:31] <ohsix> even stuff in certain repos aren't really supported olool
[15:32] <sudipta> ok....I've installed kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10...but gtk apps look ugly ..any idea why?
[15:32] <shazzr> Hmm....when I try to hibernate mye 10.10 system, my machine only locks gnome. It never hibernates. Anyone experienced that one?
[15:32] <debd> ActionParsnip: be patient child ;)
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> debd: my bad, didn't want you wasting your time
[15:33] <grumete> hi I'm having issues with playing .mkv files, do you know how to solve this?
[15:34] <bazhang> grumete, mplayer plays them fine
[15:34] <ThinkT510> grumete: vlc usually plays most formats
[15:34] <dylan> guys i need help installiung java:(
[15:34] <grumete> bazhang, nope, neither vlc
[15:34] <no-nick> holla everoyone !
[15:34] <dylan> ]pm me if u  can give  your time to help
[15:34] <Gurkeee> hi i want report a bigg mistake
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> grumete: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs
[15:35] <dylan85> thanks
[15:35] <Gurkeee> an
[15:35] <ohsix> bazhang: media player classic on windows probably plays them fine too; what's the point?
[15:35] <Gurkeee> can i report mistake
[15:35] <no-nick> if I download something with wget would it stay in my computer after closing the terminal ?
[15:35] <ThinkT510> !java | dylan85
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: vlc will play just as many formats as the others as the media codecs are shared
[15:35] <grumete> ActionParnship, not sure, I'm going to check that thanks!
[15:35] <isoft> ask a question. when I open one .py file whose first and second line is:#! /usr/bin/python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-,and I get the Unreadable code. so what I should do?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> grumete: also install gnome-mplayer as it pulls in a few more codecs, may help
[15:36] <dylan85> thanks ill give it a read nnow
[15:36] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: shouldn't need w32codecs for anything except wma9 with drm; and players don't rreally use them aside from mplayer and only on 32bit
[15:36] <dylan85> trying to get a minecraft server running
[15:36] <isoft> who can help me?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> isoft: is there a space between the ! and / characters?
[15:36] <grumete> ActionParnsnip, thank you, I didn't have that installed, so let's see ;)
[15:36] <schnuffle> isoft: drop the encoding stuff
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: its handy to have though, covers the bases
[15:36] <ohsix> grumete: what is the issue?
[15:36] <isoft> ActionParsnip: no
[15:36] <Gurkeee> helloo
[15:36] <Gurkeee> i need helpp
[15:36] <debd> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1807282
[15:36] <dylan85> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:37] <isoft> schatan: drop the encoding stuff?
[15:37] <CMH-Dan> need some help please - trying to use ubuntu 10.10 (tried 32 bit and 64 bit versions), system will hang and put the monitor to sleep - not sure why it's doing this
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> isoft: you don't need the.py extension in linux btw, they mean very little. Can you pastebin the file you have
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> debd: thanks
[15:37] <Gurkeee> need help
[15:37] <bazhang> Gurkeee, with what
[15:37] <Gurkeee> i want report mistake
[15:37] <grumete> ohsix, can't play .mkv files, but I think I'm on the right way now :)
[15:38] <debd> ActionParsnip: thanks should be for u man. Thanks. :)
[15:38] <LetsGo67> Hello room!  How easy is it to refund Windows before getting Ubuntu?
[15:38] <schnuffle> isoft: first line: #!/usr/bin/python delete the rest
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> debd: ok so youo have 1Gb RAM using 256Mb for your onboard nvidia chip which is using the proprietary driver.
[15:38] <atlef> !bugs | Gurkeee
[15:38] <debd> ActionParsnip: yeah
[15:38] <isoft> schatan: ok, I try
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> debd: did you upgrade from lucid to maverick or is this a clean install?
[15:38] <ohsix> grumete: if you have the restricted/multiverse repos enabled totem will install stuff as needed
[15:38] <schnuffle> isoft: you can use the tab key to complete names, like schn<tab>
[15:38] <debd> ActionParsnip: clean install
[15:39] <Gurkeee> report bugs
[15:39] <Gurkeee> in the installer stands "LibreOffic" instead of "LibreOffice"
[15:39] <ohsix> debd: how are you measuring the slowness? it's not unusual for humans to believe they perceive something
[15:39] <bazhang> Gurkeee, see the bug link above
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> debd: hmm, all I can suggest is you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot to test, if it fails then boot to root recovery mode (shift at boot, recovery mode, root) then run:  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old     then reboot by running: reboot
[15:40] <ubuntu> linux just crashed, howto find bug?
[15:40] <grumete> ohsix thank you, I'm gonna do that too.
[15:40] <debd> ActionParsnip: what let u know that 256mb is reserved? :)
[15:40] <schnuffle> ubuntu: check the logs under /var/log
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> debd: your total ram is near 750 which usually points to a shared device (unless you have none matching RAM sticks), you see it a fair bit
[15:41] <crackguy> anybody heard of marathon everrun high availibility software?
[15:41] <ubuntu> schnuffle: for what, it's tons of logs there
[15:42] <schnuffle> ubuntu: check syslog first
[15:42] <debd> ActionParsnip: nice! Well, thanks.
[15:42] <isoft> schatan: it seems that the Englist char is ok,and the chinese char is unreadable code
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> debd: gl
[15:42] <schnuffle> ubuntu: and sudo dmesg could give a hint as well
[15:44] <schnuffle> ubuntu: the word crash is not very specific
[15:44] <nkn> anyone knows how to delete empty folders when "sudo rm -rf " is saying directory not empty
[15:44] <malfius> Bleh, download of ubunutu 11.04 server image keeps failing
[15:44] <ubuntu> schnuffle: well logs aint specific too
[15:44] <malfius> *ubuntu
[15:45] <ohsix> CMH-Dan: the proprietary nvidia driver messes with plymouth, and might just be plain broke; you might be able to log in blind and fix it though
[15:45] <erUSUL> nkn: with rm -r that error should not happen
[15:45] <schnuffle> ubuntu: you got it, you asked a not very specific question and I gave you a not very specific answer. So first thing to do is to narrow down a bit. Have you any idea what could have caused the crash?
[15:45] <Gurkeee> bazhang DONT pm me please!
[15:46] <CMH-Dan> not using the proprietary drivers, it fails if I try to activate them
[15:46] <ohsix> CMH-Dan: then you're using natty?
[15:46] <nkn> erUSUL : but thats happening :/
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> nkn: force isn't needed
[15:47] <nkn> ActionParsnip : it's the same with or without force
[15:47] <erUSUL> nkn: is the only error you get? or you get another error for files within the dir? maybe there is a file you can not remove inside the dir that is failing
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> nkn: there is also:   rmdir foldername
[15:47] <CMH-Dan> ohsix: Not sure really, the system doesn't stay up long enough for me to do much -- whatever the default is
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> nkn: using force as the normal way you do it is a really bad habit
[15:48] <nkn> erUSUL : the folders are empty
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> nkn: is your user the owner of the folder?
[15:48] <erUSUL> nkn: no hidden files either?
[15:48] <ohsix> nkn: the directory probably isn't empty; is it on a samba/cifs or remote mount of any type? what filesystem, if not
[15:49] <nkn> ActionParsnip , erUSUL :yes i'm the user and no hidden files
[15:49] <CMH-Dan> nkn: if the directory is an in-use moint point, or if you're in the directory you're trying to use, it won't let you remove it
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> nkn: does rmdir not work?
[15:50] <ohsix> CMH-Dan: even if the proprietary driver failed to install, have you tried it every time you encountered a black screen on reboot?
[15:50] <nkn> ohsix: it's an external hdd
[15:50] <CJack> help!  .. installed a drupal website onto a TKL (ubuntu) LAMP stack and getting forced back to the home page repeatedly ... there was an article that said "Further investigation shows that it is likely that a recent Ubuntu security update is the cause for this breakage. Argh!" ... any ideas ?
[15:50] <nkn> ActionParsnip: it's not working eighter
[15:50] <erUSUL> nkn: post "ls -al dirctory/" and "ls -ld dirctory/" in a pastebin. also "ls -ld parentdir/"
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> nkn: is the filesystem mounted read only?
[15:50] <rasfish> hi there ubuntu users
[15:50] <ohsix> CJack: well if it was you could always check out the list of security updates and find out what was in them, also; what's a TKL?
[15:50] <rasfish> do anyone knows a good econometric software avalaible for linux ?
[15:51] <nadar> hi
[15:51] <ohsix> CJack: that guy didn't do enough further investigation to not have found the security update that did it, fyi; wherever you're reading it from
[15:51] <erUSUL> !equivalents
[15:51] <Sivam>  is there any guide for troubleshoot and tune with netstat -s output ?
[15:51] <rasfish> thx ubottu
[15:51] <ohsix> rasfish: like a spreadsheet or scientific/statistcial software?
[15:51] <CJack> ohsix: afraid i am a neophyte in linux .. just a few months of learning  ... TKL is TurnKey Linux
[15:51] <rasfish> yeah exactly ohsix !
[15:52] <rasfish> something like Eviews
[15:52] <ohsix> CJack: most 3rd party ubuntu variants aren't supported here
[15:52] <CMH-Dan> ohsix: I'm not sure about everytime - usually get frustrated with it after a few attempts and boot back into windows
[15:52] <CJack> ohsix: its not a variant ... its a preconfigured install (turnkey)
[15:52] <ohsix> rasfish: ah not sure; there are quite a few math packagtes that do that sort of thing, but i don't have the background to have checked them all out
[15:52] <fission6> whats the benefit of using something like amazon simple email service vs getting your own smtp server going?
[15:53] <joepa> anyone know how to change the order of spelling suggestions in aspell? I want the suggestions defined in my personal aspell.en.prepl file to take precedence. google and man aspell aren't helping
[15:53] <rasfish> hehe I'll try them all, I've plenty of time
[15:53] <ohsix> CMH-Dan: well if you never attempt to install them, the installed version should be pretty close to the livecd, which is already running
[15:53] <rasfish> thx anyway
[15:53] <ohsix> fission6: you pay less than it costs to run your own and they have to deal with the headaches
[15:53] <ayecee> !find makeinfo
[15:53] <CJack> ohsix: TKL has built a library of over 40 applications from LAMP stacks to mailservers ... all based on stable ubuntu
[15:53] <fission6> what are the headaches
[15:53]  * derin slaps derin around a bit with a large trout
[15:53] <ayecee> hmm.
[15:54] <nadar> just a hint for usability: i watched a up-to-then windows-only-user install ubuntu via the windows-installer. 95% went really nice, but then thus strange question did show up: http://ompldr.org/vOGJsdA (translated^=system of keyboard entering method) even i having used linux quite some years didn't know what that should mean
[15:54] <ohsix> rasfish: "r" has a bunch of packages to do financial work; but will probably be lacking in user interface
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> nadar: never seen that, do you use a touchscreen or any fancy hardware?
[15:56] <CMH-Dan> ohsix: thanks, going see if not attempting the install produces the same behaviour
[15:56] <nadar> ActionParsnip, nope. that was a "normal" notebook
[15:56] <fission6> ohsix, what are the headaches
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> nadar: then i'd research what each option is which you have been given then choose
[15:56] <nadar> ActionParsnip, but i can't tell anymore. that was on a linuxday
[15:56] <nadar> ActionParsnip, would be very great idea when one installs that at home and wlan does not work atm :)
[15:56] <ohsix> nadar: picking ibus by default is probably prudent, but there should be a blurb about wanting to enter foreign languages at all; or maybe omit it alltogether
[15:57] <ohsix> nadar: you can file a bug for that btw
[15:57] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: whats the latest version you've ran the installer from str8 off the livecd?
[15:57] <nadar> grrrr @ freenode -.-
[15:57] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: because they change quite a bit, i was surprised how nice 10.10 was when i reinstalled
[15:58] <ohsix> nadar: you can file a bug for that btw
[15:58] <ohsix> bbl
[15:58] <nadar> ohsix, please give a link
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: latest version of what?
[15:58] <fefson> Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'd like to use ubuntu on a computer used in a television show. Do i need to worry about trademark issues etc?
[15:58] <erUSUL> !legal
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> fefson: i'd read http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[15:59] <Braber01> Hi how do I had current minizmined programs to a panel?
[15:59] <erUSUL> fefson: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[15:59] <Braber01> *add
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Braber01: there is a panel item to hold minized apps, do you not see your minimized applications?
[16:00] <erUSUL> fefson: that has a link to http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[16:00] <Braber01> ActionParsnip No I dont see those items
[16:00] <rasfish> Braber01: just need to add a new panel
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Braber01: ok then right click the panel -> add item   and add the window list
[16:00] <nkn> erUSUL : http://pastebin.com/snr8vfDY
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> rasfish: just needs to add the item, no need for a new panel
[16:01] <nkn> ActionParsnip : no, it's not read only
[16:01] <rasfish> ActionParsnip: yep sorry
[16:01] <ubuntu> schnuffle: well what linux says as it starts up, so i can track back
[16:01] <chogoling> I need some help, I have the "gave up waiting for root device" problem, I can get onto linux after typing exit after a certain amount of time, but how do I delay the increase the time it takes to wait?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> nkn: are there any files from the folder open at the moment. You can check with:  lsof | grep War
[16:01] <erUSUL> nkn: aaaaa contains a dir called World of warcraf. that's why it complains it is not empty ....
[16:01] <Braber01> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[16:02] <erUSUL> nkn: if  World of warcraf is waht you want to remove thenyou pasted the incorrect info :)
[16:02] <shultz> podskazhite kak popast v russian canal
[16:03] <erUSUL> !ru
[16:03] <nkn> erUSUL : i want to delete everything including the aaaaa folder, there are several folders in aaaaa and all of them are empty
[16:03] <shultz> ya toka izuchay linux
[16:03] <erUSUL> chogoling: i think there are a couple of boot options you can use something like rootwait
[16:04] <erUSUL> chogoling: rootwait        [KNL] Wait (indefinitely) for root device to show up.
[16:04] <erUSUL> chogoling: and rootdelay=      [KNL] Delay (in seconds) to pause before attempting to mount the root filesystem
[16:05] <erUSUL> nkn: obbiouly one of them ( the deepest one) is not really empty and that makes it all fail
[16:05] <erUSUL> nkn: obbiouly one of them ( the deepest one? ) is not really empty and that makes it all fail
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Braber01: no worries dude
[16:05] <wazzup> is there a way to get SideWinder X6 macro's keys working on ubuntu ???
[16:05] <nkn> ActionParsnip : command returns nothing
[16:06] <chogoling> so do I type rootdelay like at the black and white screen, or do I edit some GRUB file?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> nkn: hmm, then the folder is not in use
[16:06] <nkn> erUSUL : browsing through the folders with hidden files shown, theres nothing in them
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> chogoling: edit it in /etc/default/grub    then run:  sudo update-grub   to apply
[16:06] <erUSUL> chogoling: if you want it to stick add it to /etc/default/grub to thwe string that contains quiet and splash
[16:07] <erUSUL> chogoling: and run  sudo update-grub like ActionParsnip points out
[16:07] <chogoling> how do I do that?
[16:07] <wazzup> is there a way to get SideWinder X6 macro's keys working on ubuntu ????
[16:08] <chogoling> oh wait
[16:08] <chogoling> I see it
[16:08] <erUSUL> chogoling: with a text editor
[16:08] <perlsyntax> How do i get a dell Truemobile 1150 to work in ubuntu 10.10?
[16:08] <erUSUL> chogoling: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" --> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash rootwait"
[16:08] <perlsyntax> i can't connect to my open wireless.
[16:08] <erUSUL> chogoling: then run « sudo update-grub »
[16:08] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:09] <chogoling> how do I make the file editable?
[16:09] <erUSUL> chogoling: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub &
[16:10] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get a truemobile 1150 to work on ubuntu 10.10?
[16:10] <chogoling> ok cool
[16:10] <beanLUCE>  hi. is there a .deb package of kdevelop 3.x for ubuntu 10.10 ?
[16:10] <chogoling> do I need to add a number to rootwait
[16:10] <chogoling> or is that enough
[16:10] <ubuntu> perlsyntax: you have to be more specific
[16:10] <chogoling> and what will that do to GRUB?
[16:10] <erUSUL> chogoling: is enough
[16:10] <erUSUL> chogoling: i t will add that option to all the kernels
[16:11] <erUSUL> chogoling: rootwait        [KNL] Wait (indefinitely) for root device to show up. <<<
[16:11] <chogoling> ok yup
[16:11] <perlsyntax> it will not conect to my wireless router.Is there any package or update i need.It can connect eth0 that it
[16:11] <chogoling> ok so how do I know that its worked?
[16:11] <mc_teo> hey, i have grub2 installed on my usb memory stick
[16:11] <erUSUL> chogoling: reboot?
[16:11] <perlsyntax> it work in 9.10
[16:11] <chogoling> aside from that
[16:12] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: sure thsat eth0 is your wireless?
[16:12] <erUSUL> chogoling: grep rootwait /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:12] <perlsyntax> i that not wireless.
[16:12] <mc_teo> was just wondering what sort of entry in grub.cfg i would need to specify a parition on my harddisk to boot from
[16:12] <mc_teo> /dev/sd5 specifically
[16:12] <chogoling> ok so what am I looking for?
[16:12] <perlsyntax> how do i do that
[16:12] <mc_teo> sda*
[16:13] <DarsVaeda> hi, need suggestions for a screenshot+annotations tool like screensteps or collabshot for ubuntu 10.10
[16:13] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | mc_teo
[16:13] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: I'm sorry apparently I don't understand you
[16:13] <erUSUL> chogoling: any output
[16:13] <perlsyntax> schnuffle,it odd it work in 9.10 but not in 10.10
[16:13] <chogoling> linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=UUID=bb0972c4-3b41-4006-928e-c1f07d9f32f3 ro   quiet splash rootwait
[16:13] <chogoling> was the output
[16:13] <arand> mc_teo: set root=(hd0,5); chainloader +1    Use /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[16:13] <CJack> ohsix: I had to do some digging but the guy DID do some research on this ... apparently it is related to a security upgrade that interacts with client side scripting
[16:13] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: you mean you have a network cable to your router and it doesn't get a ip?
[16:14] <perlsyntax> all i am staying is that my wirless pc card work in sbayon but not in ubuntu 10.10
[16:14] <erUSUL> chogoling: then it worked
[16:14] <chogoling> sweet
[16:14] <erUSUL> chogoling: the modification. if it fix your boot problems we can only know when you reboot
[16:14] <perlsyntax> or is there a package i need to install?
[16:14] <chogoling> thanks erUSUL  and ActionParsnip
[16:15] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: sounds like there's the network driver for your wifi missing
[16:15] <perlsyntax> how do i fix it
[16:15] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: which chip uses your wifi?
[16:15] <perlsyntax> i not sure
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: run:  sudo lshw -C network     websearch for the chip it uses
[16:16] <perlsyntax> it a dell Truemobile 1150 i use
[16:16] <perlsyntax> i don't have ubuntu on the laptop right now.
[16:17] <m0ksha> hi, I'm trying to mount my ipad in lucid (64-bit) but i get this GNUTLS ERROR: A TLS fatal alert has been receieved.  I tried installing libimobildevice1 package but it doesn't work ( i had to download manually, it wasn't in the repos)
[16:17] <m0ksha> can anyone help?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: apparently it uses the orinoco_cs driver and can only connect to WEP
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[16:18] <schnuffle> perlsyntax: check if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304217&highlight=Lucent+IEEE
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: it's also part of a standard install
[16:18] <Superstar> What's the fastest Ubuntu version?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Superstar: server, no X server clogging stuff up
[16:18] <ubuntu> schnuffle: may that cause it: sdb: detected capacity change from 28995223552 to 0
[16:18] <Superstar> ActionParsnip sorry I meant with a GUI :P
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Superstar: depends on config. minimal ubuntu install with openbox or fluxbox will be mighty fast
[16:19] <schnuffle> ubuntu: what was your problem again?
[16:20] <schnuffle> aah, you had a crash?
[16:20] <ubuntu> schnuffle: hunting a bug
[16:20] <ubuntu> right
[16:20] <schnuffle> ubuntu: is sdb a harddrive or USB?
[16:21] <ubuntu> yep
[16:21] <ubuntu> USB*
[16:21] <lonnie> I have a strange problem.
[16:21] <schnuffle> then it should crash your PC. Can you define crash? Did the PC freeze or what happenend during the crash
[16:22] <schnuffle> *shouldn't
[16:22] <ubuntu> yeah, freeze
[16:22] <hiexpo> lonnie, ask
[16:22] <perlsyntax> Well i have no wep on the router it just open.
[16:23] <lonnie> just had to set the date, (was at jan 1 19??).  Well, I set the date right but now firefox tells me "The certificate will not be valid until 12/17/2009 6:00 PM."  when i try to go to gmail.
[16:23] <lonnie> "Secure connection failed"
[16:23] <schnuffle> ubuntu: okay, a freeze is normally due to a kernel panic, can you find anything in /var/log/dmesg?
[16:23] <lonnie> I rebooted thinking that would help but didn't.
[16:23] <ubuntu> schnuffle: anything?
[16:24] <hiexpo> lonnie, thats a wierd one
[16:24] <schnuffle> ubuntu: anything like core dump, panic ...
[16:24] <ubuntu> schnuffle: that msg was from syslog
[16:24] <lonnie> Also;  apt-get complains, "404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80]"
[16:25] <schnuffle> ubuntu: which message?
[16:25] <Gurke> hello i did a statement
[16:25] <sipior> lonnie: what does "date" report now?
[16:25] <lonnie> I'm thinking that the CMOS battery is dead or almost dead
[16:25] <ThinkT510> lonnie: it sounds like the battery in your motherboard has died, if the time resets everytime you boot
[16:25] <ubuntu> schnuffle: may that cause it: sdb: detected capacity change from 28995223552 to 0
[16:25] <lonnie> Mon Apr 18 10:25:39 CDT 2011
[16:26] <schnuffle> aah, no the capacity changing could be due to pulling the USB out
[16:26] <lonnie> date is correct
[16:26] <lonnie> ThinkT510: I agree....
[16:26] <ubuntu> 5 msgs with word core, others no
[16:26] <schnuffle> ubuntu: I don't swear but that message shouldn't cause a freeze
[16:26] <canthus13> Is there any way to automagically connect wireless on reboot? (So that the machine connects to the AP without having to log in)
[16:27] <lonnie> i see no way to "Accept certificate"
[16:27] <schnuffle> ubuntu: can you reproduce the freeze?
[16:27] <schnuffle> ubuntu: could you still move the mouse around?
[16:28] <ubuntu> schnuffle: well, that was last thing i was going to do :p
[16:28] <lonnie> ok, well it just got over it.
[16:28] <schnuffle> ubuntu: I mean right after the freeze
[16:28] <lonnie> i restarted firefox for about the 10th time.
[16:28] <ubuntu> schnuffle: no, freeze for good
[16:29] <bkerensa> ohai
[16:29] <dborgmann> hi! anyone out there with knowledge about netlink?
[16:29] <schnuffle> ubuntu: because a real freeze means nothing works anymore. A freeze like situation can be caused by heavy swapping and to much load
[16:30] <ThinkT510> canthus13: rightclick network manager app in the system tray and edit connection
[16:30] <dborgmann> my netlink problem is: i want to use the function nla_parse(), but i have one parameter missing and i don't know, how to get it. it's the struct nlattr * head, which i don't know how to be used
[16:30] <tomusb> hey how do i mount usb
[16:31] <ThinkT510> !mount | tomusb
[16:31] <ubuntu> schnuffle: can i check system load in logs?
[16:31] <Guest38617> hello i did a statement
[16:31] <schnuffle> ubuntu: no
[16:31] <Guest38617> there is NO way not to use gnome 3
[16:31] <Guest38617> anytime it will come
[16:31] <IdleOne> Guest38617: no
[16:31] <ubuntu> schnuffle: ok, im trying to reproduce it :p
[16:31] <Guest38617> yes because gnome 2 wont supported by this owner longer
[16:31] <schnuffle> ubuntu: good luck :)
[16:32] <ThinkT510> Guest38617: i use xfce so i am unaffected, the beauty of choice, not everyone uses gnome
[16:32] <Guest38617> yes and today i changed to kde because of that
[16:32] <IdleOne> Guest38617: Do you have a support question?
[16:32] <Guest38617> sry
[16:34] <alkisg> Will firefox 4 be backported to 10.04, like new version of chromium-browser do?
[16:34] <stefanivarsson> @Guest38617: Did you get Gnome3 to run on 11.04?
[16:34] <Guest38617> yes
[16:34] <Guest38617> but dont liked it
[16:34] <ThinkT510> !ff4 | alkisg
[16:34] <NikLP> hey hey... I have a 10.10 iso that I want to install to a 8gb sd card for giggles; the info I have is that I need a card to install from, if I'm not using a CD, is there a way to do this to install to the 8gb card from windows, with just this one card?
[16:34] <DirtyDawg> alkisg: i installed FF4 on 10.10 works nicely
[16:34] <canthus13> ThinkT510: Unfortunately, network manager doesn't launch until you st art a desktop session. I need wireless to connect if I reboot the machine remotely.
[16:34] <DirtyDawg> using the above ^
[16:35] <chaos-cn> #ubuntu.cn
[16:35] <chaos-cn> join #ubuntu.cn
[16:35] <ThinkT510> canthus13: ahh, before the user logs in, i see, sorry not sure
[16:35] <NikLP> slash join ? :)
[16:35] <IdleOne> !cn | chaos-cn
[16:35] <DirtyDawg> chaos-cn: /j #ubuntu.cn
[16:36] <alkisg> ThinkT510 / DirtyDawg: thank you guys for the ppa solution, but I'd specifically like to know if an official backport will ever be made for firefox 4 on 10.04
[16:36] <ubuntu> schnuffle: no, nothing happened, next time then
[16:36] <chaos-cn> 你们怎么都 用英语 聊落
[16:36] <schnuffle> ubuntu: that are the worst errors to track, the ones you can't reproduce
[16:37] <IdleOne> chaos-cn: type /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:37] <ThinkT510> alkisg: sorry, not sure, you might be able to request it, but again i wouldn't know how to go about it
[16:38] <alkisg> ThinkT510: yeah, SRUs aren't for newer versions. But I think I once read some ubuntu-devs discussion about new browser versions in LTS updates... and I thought that would cover firefox too, not just chromium-browser
[16:39] <ThinkT510> !backports | ah, there is a how to request section here:
[16:39] <stefanivarsson> Running 11.04 beta on old HP pavillion zv5000. Does not work with Unity. Installed and uninstalled Unity2. Now I have to do Compiz --replace (or Metacity --replace).
[16:39] <IdleOne> alkisg: you might try asking in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[16:39] <IdleOne> I believe that is the channel name
[16:39] <alkisg> IdleOne: thank you, didn't know about that channel
[16:40] <Andy80> stefanivarsson: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:40] <r_a_f> stefanivarsson: nvidia?
[16:41] <sancas> hello
[16:41] <chaos-cn> which irc client is the best on ubuntu???
 which ones do u use
 give me some opinion plz
[16:41] <IdleOne> !best
[16:42] <bastidrazor> chaos-cn: irssi is the best.. ubuntu-bot will tell you that too
[16:42] <sancas> when i scan wireless in a netbook with wireless 802.11b/g i view 3 wireless
[16:42] <stefanivarsson> @r_a_f: Will ask in Ubuntu+1 as Andy80 suggested. BTW nvidia does not work yet old Geforce4
[16:42] <chaos-cn> what's xchat like
[16:42] <sancas> but when i scan wireless in my desktop with wireless 802.11b/g/n only 1 wirelees can i view why??
[16:43] <IdleOne> chaos-cn: install it and try it.
[16:43] <ThinkT510> sancas: is your netbook running from battery?
[16:43] <wazzup> is there a way to get SideWinder X6 macro's keys working on ubuntu ????
[16:43] <sancas> ThinkT510, yes
[16:44] <ThinkT510> sancas: then its like the power settings, to save battery life
[16:44] <ThinkT510> likely*
[16:44] <r_a_f> chaos-cn: xchat or pidgin are graphical nice clients - if you like terminal use irssi or another one
[16:44] <chaos-cn> i'm using xchat now
[16:44] <sancas> no no ThinkT510 i think that you are not understand me good
[16:45] <chaos-cn> thank you
[16:45] <chaos-cn> raf
[16:45] <sancas> my netbook show me 3 wireless and my desktop show my only 1
[16:45] <r_a_f> you welcome ;)
[16:45] <sancas> me*
[16:45] <chaos-cn> hehe
[16:45] <pfifo>  
[16:45] <ThinkT510> sancas: ahh, sorry
[16:45] <Hedgehog456> !natty
[16:46] <chaos-cn> is it real that many hackers use xchat
[16:46] <ThinkT510> sancas: are you scanning at the same time on both?
[16:48] <sancas> ThinkT510, yeah
[16:48] <ThinkT510> sancas: and they are both near each other (in the same room)
[16:49] <sancas> ThinkT510, yeah!! the tow pcs are in the same room
[16:49] <sancas> in the same desktop
[16:49] <chrislustic> anyone here experienced with kismac and aircrack?
[16:49] <ThinkT510> sancas: hmm, thats odd, do they use different chipsets?
[16:50] <ayecee> !anyone | chrislustic
[16:50] <chrislustic> lol
[16:50] <chrislustic> Im not recieving any unique iv's
[16:50] <sancas> mmm ThinkT510 how can i know it?
[16:50] <ayecee> chrislustic: are you receiving anything?
[16:51] <cadorett> Is there some mode more failsafe/lower level then single user mode? I can't seem to get any interactable display up when booting into 11.04 beta 2 after a fresh install? I installed using alternate cd.
[16:51] <cadorett> *interactive
[16:51] <chrislustic> yes packets and data
[16:51] <cadorett> All that is displayed is some corrupted looking lines in about 1/5th of the screen
[16:51] <ayecee> chrislustic: what kind of encryption does the target network use?
[16:52] <IdleOne> cadorett: #ubuntu+1 for natty help
[16:52] <chrislustic> ive got around 4000 packets and stil not unique iv's   it uses wep,
[16:52] <cadorett> Thank you very much, sorry for OT
[16:52] <ThinkT510> sancas: look for it in lspci
[16:52] <ayecee> chrislustic: wait longer, I guess.
[16:52] <isoft> I use automake tool, and got to one error: libuuid not found
[16:53] <chrislustic> lol... i heard using air crack with it can do it better,
[16:53] <isoft> what is the libuuid
[16:53] <chrislustic> upto 10 x faster
[16:53] <sancas> ThinkT510, Desktop have Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[16:53] <DJones> sancas: Just a slightly off the wall question, are both the desktop & netbook using ubuntu? I only ask because I've had machines with windows thats wouldn't pick up certain routers because they were broadcasting on a channel that windows/wifi driver wouldn't accept in the uk
[16:53] <ayecee> chrislustic: it's fun to make up statistics.
[16:53] <sancas> ThinkT510, Netbook have Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[16:54] <chrislustic> LOL,  there has to be faster ways,
[16:54] <ThinkT510> sancas: hmm, both broadcom just different models
[16:54] <ayecee> chrislustic: lolol
[16:54] <Guest28768> Im trying to write a script that records for 30 seconds after a tone is heard over the line in
[16:55] <sancas> DJones, yes the two pcs have ubuntu 10.10
[16:55] <ThinkT510> sancas: sorry but i have no idea why one picks up more networks than the other
[16:55] <sancas> mmm ok ThinkT510 thanks for all :)
[16:55] <DJones> sancas: No worries, I just thought it was worth mentioning as a "just in case idea"
[16:55] <chrislustic> I also heard aircrack is better for linux,
[16:56] <chrislustic> more versatile or something
[16:56] <ayecee> chrislustic: who'd you hear that from?
[16:56] <chrislustic> yoututbe fags,
[16:56] <ayecee> uh huh.
[16:56] <chrislustic> and I read it in some forums
[16:56] <ayecee> ah, very reliable source of information, forums.
[16:57] <sancas> then what can i do DJones ?? :s do you know?
[16:57] <zhangcheng> hi,which one is the most best virtual machine on ubuntu linux
[16:57] <chrislustic> sometimes..  information on things that have just came out.. like custom firmware doesnt have widely available information and you have to read endless crap its trial and error
[16:57] <DJones> sancas: Sorry, I have no idea either
[16:57] <sancas> :D
[16:58] <ayecee> chrislustic: fwiw, i've never used kismac in linux to capture packets, only airodump-ng
[16:59] <chrislustic> I think it may only be for mac, cuase its "kisMAC"     im currently on mac osx,  but I run ubuntu through parallels.
[17:00] <mansour> hello ! i'm new !
[17:00] <chrislustic> I have ubuntu on my ps3 (: lol
[17:00] <ThinkT510> mansour: welcome to the ubntu support channel
[17:01] <ayecee> chrislustic: you lol a lot. you must be a very happy person.
[17:01] <wolfric> what's the command to execute on a certain display? I thought it was display :0 program but i think i'm wrong
[17:01] <mansour> thanks !
[17:01] <chrislustic> I try to be,  minus the fact everytime I end up here is because i have a problem lol.
[17:02] <ayecee> wolfric: DISPLAY=:0 program  would show an X program on display :0
[17:03] <wolfric> ayecee: has to be caps?
[17:03] <ayecee> yes
[17:03] <mansour> twitter
[17:03] <mansour> Écouter
[17:03] <mansour> Traduction (français > anglais)
[17:03] <mansour> who can help me on a problem with ubuntu 4.10
[17:03] <FloodBot2> mansour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <chrislustic> aycee what os r u on?
[17:03] <ayecee> chrislustic: ubuntu
[17:03] <ayecee> !fr | mansour
[17:03] <chrislustic> like the new one?
[17:03] <ayecee> chrislustic: haven't tried it.
[17:03] <chrislustic> ah, what r u at?
[17:04] <mansour> a sound problem
[17:04] <ayecee> chrislustic: I think this is getting towards #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <vientosolar> buenas
[17:05] <chrislustic> LOL
[17:05] <tjiggi_fo> !es | vientosolar
[17:05] <JeffJassky> Hey, everyone. I'm looking for some OCR software to use on 10.04 for some testing purposes.. ocrfeeder seems to be one but when I try to install it the package can't be found :(
[17:05] <chrislustic> I dont know any mac support channel,
[17:06] <vientosolar> Hi. I have problems with Updating
[17:06] <DJones> !ocr | JeffJassky
[17:07] <JeffJassky> djones: hmm thank you.
[17:07] <shiv> hi, can someone help me get a nice screen saver of a clock .. i looked around and havent found one ..
[17:07] <DJones> JeffJassky: I've not tried any of them so I can't help with them, I just guessed at the trigger for the bot
[17:08] <JeffJassky> DJones: Haha I appreciate it.. i did see those but I read that ocrfeeder was the most suggested one.. but couldn't get it to install. i'll check out these other ones then.
[17:09] <JeffJassky> apt-get install tesseract # can't find package either
[17:10] <Webtester01> Would vga=792@60 work as a kernel paremter?
[17:10] <ThinkT510> !find tesseract | JeffJassky
[17:11] <JeffJassky> nice. Thanks!
[17:11] <ThinkT510> np
[17:11] <ziyadb_> how do I git sources using ubuntu? it just fails.
[17:12] <sipior> ziyadb_: fails how?
[17:12] <ziyadb_> E: Couldn't find any package by regex and E: Unable to locate package, tried multiple packets.
[17:12] <darell> stupid questions alert...  if i installed my system with 11.04 beta1 and 11.04beta2 is now out...  and if i install all the updates every day...  does that mean my system is AT 11.04?  or is there some other major difference?
[17:12] <ziyadb_> s/packets/packages/
[17:12] <ayecee> darell: beta support in #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <sipior> ziyadb_: what command were you attempting?
[17:13] <ziyadb_> sudo apt-get install git-core
[17:13] <Webtester01> My previous question was kinda stupid.
[17:13] <researcher123> which channel do I join for birtualbox?
[17:13] <eddieguy> Evening. Quick question: Should my FQDN internally to my LAN be different than that of my website that can be accessed from the www?
[17:13] <researcher123> *virtualbox?
[17:13] <darell> sorry - 11.04beta2*
[17:13] <researcher123> !virtualbox
[17:14] <treonaut> I was talking to edbian about my busybox problem.....ubuntu always runs into busybox cant find the sdd
[17:14] <Webtester01> Could someone point me to website where I could pass parameters to xinit, overriding xorg.conf on the live cd, following the double dash after pressing f6.
[17:15] <ziyadb_> sipior: any idea?
[17:16] <treonaut> how can I teach ubuntu to find the harddisk?
[17:16] <sipior> ziyadb_: can you install other packages through apt-get normally?
[17:16] <eddieguy> dmesg
[17:17] <ziyadb_> sipior: yes, sudo apt-get install git-core works.
[17:17] <sipior> ziyadb_: didn't you just say that it didn't?
[17:17] <ziyadb_> wait a minute
[17:17] <ziyadb_> that works, it installs git-core.
[17:18] <ziyadb_> but I want to install a package, so I suffix it to the syntax above which you told me to use a few hours earlier.
[17:18] <sipior> ziyadb_: you want to use git to grab source code, or you want to install something through apt-get?
[17:19] <ziyadb_> grab source code, git clone git://code.quagga.net/quagga.git
[17:19] <sipior> ziyadb_: okay, then do that.
[17:19] <ziyadb_> fail. haha thanks :)
[17:19] <chaos-cd> dg
[17:20] <eddieguy> Any ideas? Local domain vs internet domain... should they differ?
[17:20] <eddieguy> Does it make it even more complex to have your local domain be the same as the global (internet) set domain?
[17:21] <yassine> while trying to install apt-get install gnome-themes-standard i get the following error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1206829 anyone have an idea what to do please?
[17:21] <sipior> eddieguy: are your internal machines reachable through the FQDN for which you have dns set up?
[17:21] <chaos-cd> quit
[17:21] <MaxMetal89> good morning
[17:22] <MaxMetal89> anyone knows how to set up the LT and RT keys of the XBOX360 controller?
[17:22] <Daevol> Hey! I need gVim help
[17:22] <Daevol> syntax highlighter is failing badly
[17:22] <Daevol> for HTML.
[17:22] <sipior> eddieguy: to put it another way: if you don't intend those machines to be directly reachable, it makes no difference what the fqdn is (since they don't appear in an authoritative dns).
[17:22] <Daevol> htmlTagName is being colored as Normal
[17:22] <sipior> Daevol: see #vim
[17:23] <Daevol> thanks
[17:26] <chrislustic_> "injection moe not supported" ?
[17:26] <chrislustic_> mode*
[17:27] <ayecee> chrislustic: I guess you won't be able to use packet injection.
[17:27] <chrislustic> im wondering why i see other mac users doing it, gr
[17:27] <ayecee> you should ask them :D
[17:28] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[17:28] <chrislustic> comments are disabled and Unable to inbox the person hahaha
[17:28] <chrislustic> some "anonymous" guy
[17:29] <ayecee> chrislustic: maybe there's another guy who has done it
[17:29] <rejoin> hello
[17:29] <rem> los guy no tienes gracias
[17:29] <chrislustic> haha ... cmone now.
[17:29] <chrislustic> im actively researching
[17:30] <rejoin> i have downloaded the 11.04 latest beta and it boots in gnome rather than unity, why?
[17:30] <ayecee> rejoin: beta support in #ubuntu+1 only
[17:30] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | rejoin
[17:30] <rejoin> thanks
[17:31] <chrislustic> OH :(
[17:31] <BlipInTheData> does anyone know how to make rsync delete files on the client pc ?
[17:31] <chrislustic> i think my airport wireless cant be used,  for that.  sad sad
[17:31] <ThinkT510> sancas: managed to figure out your network availability?
[17:31] <n90thebest> is this the ubuntu channel?
[17:31] <n90thebest> i need help?
[17:31] <ThinkT510> n90thebest: indeed it is
[17:31] <chrislustic> usb rt73
[17:32] <n90thebest> i need help with openoffice
[17:32] <Wobbley> It's the bestest channel in the world for ubuntu
[17:32] <Kulek> so I'm a total noob and just installed 11.04 and the dash suddenly stopped auto_hiding, any ideas?
[17:32] <n90thebest> who could help me?
[17:32] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | Kulek
[17:32]  * spacebug- does not understand unity at all
[17:32] <Kulek> thanks
[17:32] <n90thebest> anione could help me with openoffice?
[17:33] <ThinkT510> n90thebest: what problem do you have with openoffice?
[17:33] <sancas> ThinkT510, i think this is good because i test the networks controllers on windows and allways have the same
[17:33] <n90thebest> w8
[17:34] <n90thebest> i use google translate
[17:34] <n90thebest> xD
[17:34] <sancas> then i dont worry more :D
[17:34] <n90thebest> in cacl
[17:34] <n90thebest> calc*
[17:34] <n90thebest> i have to insert
[17:34] <n90thebest> the error
[17:34] <n90thebest> in a graph
[17:34] <FloodBot2> n90thebest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <sancas> not*
[17:34] <BlipInTheData> does anyone know how to make rsync delete files on the client pc ?
[17:35] <ayecee> BlipInTheData: which files do you want deleted?
[17:35] <n90thebest> so, anyone knows how can i insert the x error in a graph in openoffice calc???'
[17:35] <n90thebest> ?
[17:36] <n90thebest> help me pls
[17:36] <shcherbak> n90thebest: Sure, what happend?
[17:36] <n90thebest> read
[17:36] <treonaut> any help with busybox?
[17:37] <BlipInTheData> ayecee, already got it, I needed to use --delete
[17:37] <n90thebest> anyone knows how can i insert the x error in a graph in openoffice calc???'
[17:37] <shcherbak> n90thebest: No scroll, just joined.
[17:37] <BlipInTheData> ayecee, thanks for the help though :)
[17:37] <n90thebest> anyone knows how can i insert the x error in a graph in openoffice calc???'
[17:37] <n90thebest> that's what i wrote
[17:37] <ayecee> treonaut: with what?
[17:37] <shcherbak> n90thebest: x error ?
[17:37] <chaoticoz> is there a chance i can build (in linux) a bootable usb stick with windows install on int
[17:38] <ThinkT510> n90thebest: you can ask in #openoffice.org since it sounds like you're not sure how to use it
[17:38] <n90thebest> in a graph
[17:38] <ayecee> chaoticoz: anything's possible, but that one is very unlikely.
[17:38] <n90thebest> no the problem is that if i click right it asks me for the Y error but not for the X
[17:38] <chaoticoz> heh
[17:39] <chaoticoz> maybe ill try with virtualbox
[17:39] <chaoticoz> install windows in it
[17:39] <chaoticoz> and from there
[17:39] <chaoticoz> create the usb stick
[17:39] <chaoticoz> lol
[17:39] <FloodBot2> chaoticoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <chaoticoz> um, ok
[17:40] <ayecee> chaoticoz: scroll less ;)
[17:40] <chaoticoz> if i install windows XP, is there any way i can recover the boot selection from linux? so i can dual boot
[17:40] <Gurke_> yes
[17:40] <ceo> am need remove all phpmyadmin packed from my ubuntu 10.10, if can't do am are i need to used xampp ?
[17:40] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | chaoticoz
[17:40] <Gurke_> !grub2
[17:40] <LordNeo> Good Afternoon, i'm having random xserver crashes resulting in me being loged off. No issues in login back, but i want to solve the annoyance. Besides of ~/.xsession-errors is there any other logs i may look for?
[17:41] <Gurke_> !grub2 | chaoticoz
[17:41] <chaoticoz> !grub2
[17:41] <chaoticoz> thank you
[17:41] <chaoticoz> very much
[17:41] <shcherbak> LordNeo: kern.log, messages, syslog
[17:41] <LordNeo> thanks shcherbak
[17:42] <fluffybit> hi, anyone having .wmv problems on 10.10 ? played files ok yesterday and now shows no video in either mplayer or vlc
[17:42] <ceo> need help
[17:42] <ceo> for remove oall packged for my ubuntu 10.10
[17:42] <isoft> I wanna copy one line from vim to other file, eg. I copy one line to this, what I should do?
[17:43] <shcherbak> LordNeo: also, if it apears to be application specific, try to debug. Or test compiz/metacity.
[17:43] <fadax> hi
[17:44] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I just did sudo apt-get install imagemagick but when I try to use "Convert" it says "Convert: command not found"
[17:44] <ayecee> JeffJassky: maybe it's in lower case
[17:44] <JeffJassky> oops.. looks like it's all lowercase maybe
[17:44] <LordNeo> shcherbak: another question, how do i know if i'm running above compiz or metacity? i just installed the default 10.10 installation, then upgraded to natty and it looks like the compiz package is already installed
[17:44] <JeffJassky> :)
[17:44] <fadax> what is the best way to run ubuntu as a virtual machine under windows 7? which hypervisor should i go for? VMWare?
[17:44] <chaoticoz> i prefer virtualbox
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> I also perfer virtualbox
[17:45] <chaoticoz> worked like charm for me
[17:45] <treonaut> my ubuntu always stops with busybox, please any help available?
[17:45] <shcherbak> LordNeo: htop can help, but, if you have effects, it is compiz, is not Natty beta?
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> treonaut:  the installcd? or your installed system? or what exactly?
[17:45] <ThinkT510> fadax: i doubt many people here will recommend vmware because its closed source
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> I have had issues getting vmware to work. virtualbox is much simpiler to get going i find.
[17:46] <LordNeo> thanks shcherbak
[17:46] <shcherbak> fluffybit: you can open second file in vim and use visual mode (triggered by "v")
[17:46] <thomashsu> VMware Player is much faster than virtualbox per my experience
[17:46] <LordNeo> will check the logs first and try to solve all the issues i can. About natty, yes, it's beta, but #ubuntu+1 looks more a general conversation channel than a support one
[17:46] <fadax> oh right ok, i see.. so if i choose to use virtualbox how can i get it to run the paravirtualized version of ubuntu? do i have to download a different distro?
[17:47] <LordNeo> fadax, what are you trying to do?
[17:47] <treonaut> Dr_Willis: I have a dozble boot grub   windows and ubuntu, ubuntu always stoped on busybox I used to type exit and it runs normal, but now I
[17:48] <chaoticoz> im installing windows xp in virtualbox on ubuntu right now. rreason: i want to make an usb stick with the windows installation files to install windows to my harddrive.
[17:48] <LordNeo> fadax: paravirtualization is kinda' extreme for a simple ubuntu testing, virtualbox will do all you need by default and without hassle (and in my personal testing, consuming a lot less resources than VMWare)
[17:48] <fadax> LordNeo well i want to install ubuntu as a virtual machine on windows 7, and i just want to make sure i go about it the best way to get optimal performance
[17:48] <treonaut> changed the cpu and motherbord i7  it never opens ubuntu remains on busybox.....cant find harddisk
[17:48] <chaoticoz> :(
[17:49] <fadax> oh right ok  i see
[17:49] <fadax> well thanks, i'll think about it
[17:49] <LordNeo> chaoticoz: use unetbootin to copy the usb stick with the windowsxp image
[17:49] <coz_> treonaut,  when you type exit it boots  .. yes?
[17:49] <chaoticoz> unetbootin?
[17:49] <treonaut> Dr_Willis: sorry the text came in two parts
[17:49] <LordNeo> fadax: no problem, and if you need anything just pm me
[17:49] <LordNeo> chaoticoz:http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[17:49] <chaoticoz> installed no
[17:50] <chaoticoz> now*
[17:50] <coz_> treonaut,  does it still boot after typing exit?
[17:50] <treonaut> coz_: now it doest start anymore, maybe the prozessor is to fast
[17:51] <coz_> treonaut,  did you simply change the motherboard and did not clean install but used the previous install from the h ard drive?
[17:51] <fluffybit> hmm, suddently decided t owork
[17:51] <treonaut> the computer boots up to grub windows works perfect......ubuntu ends up with busybox...but doesnt start as it was before with exit
[17:52] <coz_> treonaut,  when you changed the motherboard,,, did  you reinstall ubuntu?
[17:52] <treonaut> no coz_:
[17:52] <chaoticoz> LordNeo, how do i execute a .bin file
[17:52] <chaoticoz> :(
[17:53] <coz_> treonaut,  you probably will have to reinstall... you can probably use the olde motherboard to save any files from that install,, but if you change the hardware especially the motherboard,, it is best to reinstall to let the install detect that particular hardware
[17:53] <ceo> humf... nobody can help me, for remove my packed
[17:54] <chaoticoz> found it LordNeo , but the application seems to crash. asks me for a password then disappears
[17:54] <coz_> ceo,  I didnt see your post
[17:54] <LordNeo> sorry chaoticoz, i'm back
[17:54] <bivo> Trying to install a game in Wine, but execute bit refuses to let me even set execute permissions via root to the install executable
[17:54] <LordNeo> it should show a little window that shows the options
[17:55] <treonaut> coz_: I always dreamed that I can use everything as before...is there no way anybody helps me to tell him, maybe on the grub, where the HD is?
[17:55] <coz_> chaoticoz,   cook nick :)
[17:55] <chaoticoz> it only asks me for my password, then disappears :(
[17:55] <coz_> treonaut,  mm  I am not sure,,, maybe try the ##linux channel
[17:55] <LordNeo> weird
[17:55] <chaoticoz> :'/
[17:55] <LordNeo> one second
[17:55] <coz_> treonaut,  or maybe reinstall grub
[17:55] <LordNeo> let me check if it's on the repos
[17:55] <chaoticoz> ok
[17:56] <chaoticoz> found it with aptitude
[17:56] <LordNeo> chaoticoz, it's on the repos, check on synaptic
[17:56] <treonaut> coz_: at the moment I use ubuntu from CD and trying to find the place where ubuntu starts
[17:56] <chaoticoz> installing
[17:56] <chaoticoz> hm
[17:56] <chaoticoz> same problem
[17:56] <amirite> anyone know about ubuntu?
[17:56] <LordNeo> :S
[17:57] <LordNeo> try from console: sudo unetbootin
[17:57] <chaoticoz> asks for password,worked
[17:57] <chaoticoz> worked*, shouldve tried sudo right away
[17:57] <chaoticoz> sorry
[17:57] <LordNeo> no problem
[17:57] <shcherbak> LordNeo: Yeah, in plus one, most likely you will hear "fill the bug, please", what you acctually should do.
[17:57]  * shcherbak yawns.
[17:57] <amirite> specifically anyone know how to check what init scripts are running
[17:57] <LordNeo> treonaut: can you tell me your issue?
[17:57] <amirite> i.e. stuff in /etc/init.d
[17:57] <amirite> how can i tell which is running and which isn't
[17:58] <empity> does anyone knows what ubuntu runs to hibernate?
[17:58] <LordNeo> amirite: service --status-all
[17:58] <empity> I want to hibernate but I don't use the sucky gnome, so I don't know that the hibernate button runs...
[17:58] <multipass> use
[17:59] <dave_> I'm having trouble with my LAMP server that I'm setting up. .php files download instead of displaying.
[17:59] <chaoticoz> LordNeo, may i query you?
[17:59] <amirite> do i need to run /etc/init.d/cron for crontab to work
[17:59] <empity> dave_: apache doesn't load the php module the
[17:59] <empity> n
[17:59] <LordNeo> chaoticoz: sure, go ahead
[17:59] <cheche> my laptop keep losing the boot partition DUAL BOOT windows 7 and ubuntu lucid
[17:59] <bivo> Ubuntu 10.10 i686 Wine 1.2 Trying to install a game in Wine, but execute bit refuses to let me even set execute permissions via root to the install executable
[17:59] <Starminn> You know the menus on the top-left in 10.10 and others where it has Applications, Places, System? I've noticed in some themes the items in those lists are nicely packed together. How cna I accomplish this with a theme that doesn't do that by default?
[17:59] <SMG1> hello, can someone help me update ar package under binutil, because its an old version and its not letting me compile enything
[17:59] <cheche> boot from CD and grub-install keep fixing it. but I wonder if anyone had same issue
[18:00] <cheche> maybe ext4 is not compatible with windows 7?
[18:00] <empity> noone about hibernate?
[18:00] <Starminn> bivo: Have you tried, "wine /path/to/file"?
[18:01] <Jordan_U> cheche: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:01] <dave_> empity: I've checked in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and php5.conf and php5.load are both there.
[18:01] <cheche> Jordan_U: Lucid
[18:01] <tudalex> what's with the flood bot?
[18:01] <Jordan_U> cheche: And whenever you boot Windows grub becomes unbootable?
[18:01] <jean_> I have a problem with ubuntu 10.04 (had the problem with 9.10 as well but not as sever) ubuntu crashes with the screen displaying horizontal and vertical lines. It stays there until I do a hard reboot. The system is X61T (lenovo tablet) with intel GMA950 any ideas
[18:01] <nach0z> Got a question for yall: Using the "screen" command for multitasking, how many "screen"s are allowed to run at one time? like is there a built-in hard limit, or does it just depend on ram and hardware stuff?
[18:01] <cheche> Jordan_U: I install it too a friend....
[18:02] <cheche> Jordan_U: he come back only letting me know that is not booting up
[18:02] <ayecee> nach0z: no limit imposed by screen, at least
[18:02] <cheche> Jordan_U: grub-install /dev/sda fix the error
[18:02] <nach0z> ayecee: Awesome. thanks.
[18:03] <SMG1> hello, can someone help me update ar package under binutils, because its an old version and its not letting me compile enything
[18:03] <cheche> Jordan_U: maybe hibertane windows had some relatonship?
[18:03] <bivo> Starminn keeps complaining that it isn't owned by me?
[18:03] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:03] <treonaut> coz_: do you think reinstalling grub makes sence?
[18:03] <QuiSE> Can someone tell me how to apply this fix. Ubuntu driving me crazy atm
[18:03] <QuiSE> http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-10-left-mouse-stop-working-issue.html
[18:03] <amirite> how do i add an /etc/init.d script to automatically run
[18:04] <amirite> why do i check if an /etc/init.d script is set to automatically run
[18:04] <coz_> treebeen,  well probably  ,,, you would have to do that from the live cd ... do you know how?
[18:04]  * amirite bangs head against wall
[18:04] <Starminn> bivo: Where is the file?
[18:04] <treonaut> coz_: but be prepared I will ask how ;-)
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> amirite:  you may want to look at teh Upstart docs and use a upstart config script instead of init.d
[18:04]  * amirite wishes everything was like gentoo
[18:04] <amirite> no i don't i just want a quick answer so i can get on with my life
[18:04] <coz_> treonaut,  hold on I will get lin k
[18:04] <necromancer> amirite: so install gentoo
[18:04] <necromancer> problem solved
[18:04] <Jordan_U> cheche: It's probably this problem: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/debian/2010-08-28-windows-applications-making-grub2-unbootable.html
[18:04] <yeaten> do you have any ideas about that glitch http://imageupload.org/?d=4DAC6C5D1
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> amirite:  go use gentoo if you want gentoo.  If you want somthing to start simpily. add it to  /etc/rc.local
[18:04] <coz_> treonaut,   read this through several times before attempting it    http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[18:05] <cheche> Jordan_U: thanks having a look
[18:05] <Jordan_U> cheche: Installing grub-pc and grub-common pacakges from Ubuntu 10.10 should work arund the problem.
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> Otherwide you will need a complex init.d script for your service.
[18:05] <bivo> Starminn on a flash stick, either way, from root I should be able to force the permissions no?
[18:05] <KM0201> QuiSE, looks like you download that .deb file, then follow the instructinos
[18:05] <evandroalb> /etc/rc.local is the easy way...
[18:05] <Jordan_U> cheche: Sorry I can't help you more on details as I need to leave now.
[18:06] <cheche> Jordan_U: that is more that what I have thanks!
[18:06] <QuiSE> when I try the url it i cant read the file
[18:06] <QuiSE> KM0201
[18:06] <Starminn> bivo: Hmm.... You could always just try to copy the file over into somewhere in ~
[18:06] <cheche> Jordan_U: I will try next time to forward to Colin Watson
[18:06] <QuiSE> KM0201: "Oops! This link appears to be broken."
[18:06] <KM0201> yeah...
[18:07] <Kriss-|-> if i have a computer with 2GB ram, that also could support 64 bit, would anyone of you suggest that i used ubuntu 64 bit instead of 32 bit ? or would anyone suggest staying on the 32bit version ?
[18:08] <Kriss-|-> would there be any performance increase using the 64b version in this case with 2GB ram ?
[18:08] <sipior> Kriss-|-: yes, you'll want a 64-bit operating system. if you already have a working 32-bit system, though, it's probably not worth the trouble of reinstalling.
[18:08] <QuiSE> KM0201:  suggestion? I know its a -.deb file but I dont know how to feed it to .deb to install it
[18:08] <IanWizard> I'm trying to mount my old HOME dir, so that I can migrate a bunch of data from it, but because I used ecryptfs (at install), and I guess because I'm not mounting it where it's supposed to be., I keep getting an error about it not being setup properly.
[18:08] <KM0201> QuiSE, well, i wasn't even able to download it... hang on a sec, looking.
[18:08] <evandroalb> Kriss-|- you may use 64 bit version without problem. 2gb ram is ok.
[18:08] <QuiSE> KM0201: ok
[18:09] <Kriss-|-> is there any increase in performance ?
[18:09] <sipior> Kriss-|-: that depends on a number of considerations.
[18:09] <Kriss-|-> and also, is there equally number of apps supported for the 64bit version ?
[18:09] <KM0201> QuiSE, try #149 here...  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/+bug/636311
[18:10] <evandroalb> Kriss-|- in some graphics card, like nvidia and intel, i have note increase of performace
[18:10] <Kriss-|-> considering ram usage, does 64 bit use more ?
[18:10] <sipior> Kriss-|-: yes.
[18:10] <aeon-ltd> is it me or does the floodbot not work? if just /j ubuntu again it seems to let you through...
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Kriss-|-:  ive heard 64bit apps use a little more ram. but never noticed it being an issue
[18:10] <Kriss-|-> ok
[18:10] <katkee> hello
[18:10] <evandroalb> Kriss-|- yes... because the OS uses 64 and 32 libs (for compatibility with old apps)
[18:10] <evandroalb> like flash player
[18:11] <QuiSE> KM did that url work for you to DL the file? I just get that there are no homepage or it has been removed
[18:11] <Kriss-|-> cool
[18:11] <evandroalb> and maybe, java
[18:11] <Kriss-|-> think ill just install it and see
[18:11] <maco> aeon-ltd: id ask that in #ubuntu-ops
[18:11] <Kriss-|-> thank you all for your suggestions
[18:11] <evandroalb> yes, make tests
[18:11] <QuiSE> KM0201:  solved. Thanks
[18:11] <aeon-ltd> maco: thanks
[18:11] <LjL> aeon-ltd: you're identified now
[18:11] <KM0201> QuiSE, no prob... was it the insructions in 149 that made it work?
[18:11] <aeon-ltd> LjL: that explains it.
[18:12] <Gadwil-Office> Does anyone have a link to the torrent for the 64bit Desktop of 10.04?  on the Alternative Download page it has Alternative-i386 twice.
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> !torrent
[18:12] <QuiSE> KM0201: Im reading the URL now. it looks promising. hang a sec and I confirm
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. theres some torrent.ubuntu.com site..
[18:12] <roestzwii> hey guys
[18:12] <yeaten> http://imageupload.org/?d=4DAC6C5D1 any ideas?
[18:12] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. For some reason typing the command 'tesseract' in my shell works great.. but using PHPs exec, shell_exec, and system functions don't seem to execute the command as expected. exec('ls') works but exec('tesseract'); doesn't do anything. No errors - just no result.
[18:13] <zhando> Wow natty's Ubuntu classic makes my laptop overheat!!
[18:13] <sipior> JeffJassky: perhaps the program is executing entirely in the 4th dimension.
[18:13] <roestzwii> i rent a server from strado that runs ubuntu, where can i get an overview or tutorial to ubuntu
[18:13] <JeffJassky> sipior: Or beyond o.o
[18:14] <Gurke_> roestzwii hahahahah
[18:14] <Gadwil-Office> Thanks Dr_Willis .  I never knew Ubuntu had this directory.
[18:14] <zhando> I mean it literally gets super hot to the touch..
[18:15] <Apollonovich> I just added the ppa/kde backports repository to my apt-sources, and now I see 174 "blocked" kde updates.  I'm running lucid...anyone know why the updates would be blocked/what I can do about it?
[18:15] <zhando> Ubuntu no effects is ok..
[18:15] <evandroalb> preparing to install the coming ubuntu version on my macbook pro.
[18:15] <Gurke_> KDE rockz !
[18:15] <evandroalb> let see how i do it... seaching for internet tutorials.
[18:15] <maxagaz> what does bitrate mean in video, if I change it, what would it change ?
[18:15] <zhando> Unity needs a ton of work.. Stay with Ubuntu class (no effects)
[18:16] <Gadwil-Office> I say they should go Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell and forget about Unity.
[18:16] <zhando> or Ubuntu classic with a healthy well-cooled cpu and video card
[18:16] <ayecee> maxagaz: it takes a certain amount of bits to represent each frame in a video. If you lower the bitrate, there's less bits to represent each frame, and so the frame is not presented as accurately.
[18:16] <zhando> I've heard enough about Gnome 3 to be pretty skeptical about that as well.
[18:17] <palo> y
[18:17] <maxagaz> ayecee, so it will affect its quality ?
[18:17] <ayecee> maxagaz: that is, as you lower the bitrate, the quality degrades, yes.
[18:17] <SMG1> can someone help me, i need to update the "ar" file under "binutils", because it causes "*** buffer overflow detected ***: ar terminated" while compiling anything, but I cant update binutils because of the same problem?
[18:18] <Guest39263> Hi to all.
[18:18] <ayecee> maxagaz: however, the reduced quality is often acceptable, especially if playing on a smaller screen.
[18:18] <maxagaz> ayecee, but bitrate is expressed in kbps, why isn't it in bit per frame ?
[18:18] <JeffJassky> Anyone have any idea on my php exec() issue?
[18:19] <zhando> Forget unity, forget gnome 3, forget kde, they all suck (right now anyway)
[18:20] <evandroalb> zhando i liked lxde =)
[18:20] <sipior> zhando: this is off-topic here. consider #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:20] <ayecee> maxagaz: the number of bits per frame varies. frames that are easily compressible don't need many, while very busy frames need more
[18:20] <zhando> ok fine..
[18:21] <evandroalb> spior thanks !
[18:21] <yeaten> i hate unity!
[18:21] <ayecee> maxagaz: the kbps is how much bandwidth the encoder aims for or is allowed to use per second to represent the frames within.
[18:21] <jiltdil> how to upgrade mozilla to 4.0
[18:22] <genii-around> !ff4
[18:22] <maxagaz> ayecee, I begin to understand
[18:22] <BlipInTheData> Anyone have a clue how to disable SSH from auto booting ?
[18:23] <maxagaz> ayecee, can the bitrate be variable for a video ?
[18:23] <jiltdil> !latest
[18:23] <SMG1> can someone help me, i need to update the "ar" file under "binutils", because it causes "*** buffer overflow detected ***: ar terminated" while compiling anything, but I cant update binutils because of the same problem?
[18:23] <fizyplan1ton>  
[18:23] <ayecee> maxagaz: yes, it often is.
[18:23] <joeykrim> wow lot of people in here
[18:23] <jiltdil> !ppa
[18:23] <sipior> SMG1: you're using the binutils that shipped with ubuntu? which version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:24] <ayecee> maxagaz: still, there's likely to be a target average bitrate, and an upper bound so that the storage can keep up with the demand in busy scenes.
[18:24] <joeykrim> has anybody experienced issues using eclipse over x11vnc crashing X11?
[18:24] <fizyplan1ton> how can a download a file via cli if i know its url?
[18:24] <joeykrim> fizyplan1ton: wget
[18:24] <fizyplan1ton> thx
[18:24] <SMG1> sipior: I messed with tah, now ar has version 16 while ld has version 21, ubuntu 10.10
[18:25] <sipior> SMG1: tah?
[18:25] <SMG1> sipior: i mean i messed binutils up.
[18:25] <sipior> i see.
[18:26] <sipior> SMG1: apt-get doesn't work, then?
[18:26] <SMG1> sipior: it installs it but its like it does not update it
[18:26] <sipior> SMG1: apt-get install --reinstall binutils?
[18:27] <SMG1> sipior: i cant compile any package from source, even the simplest one because of "ar"
[18:27] <sipior> SMG1: not asking you to compile anything. does apt-get work?
[18:28] <SMG1> sipior: ill try your command, but yes apt-get does work
[18:29] <alex[0]> hello, I'm trying to get 2 GPUs with 3 monitors working in lucid
[18:29] <abstrakt> arg... looks like the latest ubuntu software update screwed up my flash plugin
[18:29] <abstrakt> i can still watch youtubes
[18:30] <abstrakt> but e.g. google analytics brings up a warning/status/notice bar (in firefox) saying to "install plugins..."
[18:30] <ayecee> abstrakt: you've restarted firefox, yes?
[18:30] <TheMG> im trying to install ubuntu 11.10 x64, but it is not seeing any of my partitions. ive got a w7 partition, another ntfs partition and then free space which i left for ubuntu. the installer just sees 2 TB of free space
[18:30] <abstrakt> and when I click on it it gives me a few options and when I select Adobe Flash, it says "this plugin is already installed!" "finish..."
[18:30] <abstrakt> so I click finish
[18:30] <abstrakt> page reloads
[18:30] <abstrakt> ayecee, yes
[18:30] <shcherbak> TheMG: /j #ubuntu+1 (not yet here)
[18:30] <abstrakt> ayecee, i've rebooted the entire machine
[18:31] <PowerTux> i´m trying to install cinelerra and after make it return the error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lbz2
[18:31] <TheMG> shcherbak: sorry, what?
[18:31] <PowerTux> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:31] <shcherbak> TheMG: Natty (11.04) is still beta.
[18:31] <TheMG> oh, haha, i meant 10.10
[18:31] <SMG1> sipior:the binutil apt-get installs is 2.20, but it never updates the "ld" package which is part of binutils, i suppose apt-get does not work
[18:31] <sipior> TheMG: i guess you meant 10.10, not 11.10 :-) do you have a second disk in the system?
[18:32] <TheMG> sipior: i did *when i installed w7*, and by accident, the w7 installer added the new installation of w7 onto the old w7 (on the other disk)'s bootloader
[18:32] <TheMG> sipior: for the installation of ubuntu i removed it
[18:33] <sipior> TheMG: sure you removed the right one?
[18:33] <TheMG> sipior: yep, right size
[18:33] <shcherbak> TheMG: Close M$ "good" way, to let ubuntu see drive ok, use Drive Utis in live session to make sure everything is ok.
[18:33] <TheMG> shcherbak: what do you mean by "close ms good way"?
[18:34] <shcherbak> TheMG: Do not hard boot it, just Soutdown.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> PowerTux:  you need the 'bz2' library development files  libbz2-dev might be the package name (or close to it)
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> !info cinelerra
[18:35] <TheMG> shcherbak: i see, and there's no chance ubuntu will try and do something with the first hard drive?
[18:35] <ThinkT510> !find cinelerra | Dr_Willis
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> ThinkT510:  :) if it was in the repos the 'build-dep' option would let one pull in all needed dev packages to recompile it.
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> ThinkT510:  seems hes not that lucky.
[18:36] <shcherbak> TheMG: As long you using live session, and not installing, or making something silly, your drive is safe.
[18:37] <drgeri> hi
[18:37] <boomboorum> Hello everybody.  I have ubuntu 10.10 on my netbook (acer aspire one). My webcame suddenly stopped working (in) Cheese.  It worked fine before and now it suddenly stopped recognizing the webcam
[18:38] <shcherbak> TheMG: you need to have windows partition closed to let them work normally, hard reboot are not recomended in any system.
[18:38] <UbuntuN00b> reinstall cheese?
[18:38]  * jiltdil smile
[18:39] <drgeri> Hi everyone. I cant install Wubi...after download I have error rev.190
[18:40] <drgeri> coukd not retrieve installation files
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> drgeri: grab the ubuntu iso, MD5 test it then mount it with magicdisk or daemontools and run it from that
[18:41] <boomboorum> (I will repeat myself )  My webcam suddenly stopped working, some assistance would  be nice   ( Ubuntu 10.10  -  Acer aspire one netbook)
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: can you give a pastebin of:  lsmod    Thanks
[18:42] <Egonis> Odd question -- I used Brasero to burn some backed up data to a disc, after having ripped it from an external HDD... the files are blank, as in contained with spaces equalling the total byte count of the file.. however reading the original file from the external HDD shows data.
[18:42] <Egonis> Am I going crazy?
[18:42] <drgeri> I would like to try the wubi,dont want to mount disc
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> drgeri: there is no disk, you are mounting a file
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Egonis: tried a different burner?
[18:43] <drgeri> ok...i'll try that,thanks
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> drgeri: or you can put wubi.exe in the same folder as the ISO and do that
[18:43] <Egonis> ActionParsnip: Wish I had.... :(
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> drgeri: be sure to MD5 test
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Egonis: if you connect the system to a different system, is the original data there?
[18:47] <boomboorum> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/fDgcXTYi
[18:47] <pooltable> need help with PCSX emu the memory card not working for final fantasy 8 ??
[18:48] <Egonis> ActionParsnip: Yes, it *was*... before a re-format of said machine
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Egonis: yikes
[18:48] <pentester123> I need help with samba share. I can see the shared directory, it asks for login, but wont allow access. user has been created
[18:48] <Egonis> ActionParsnip: On a related note, is an ext4 undelete realistic?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> pentester123:  you gave the user a samba passwd via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[18:49] <shcherbak> Egonis: Yes, give you more chances.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: ok let mesearch
[18:49] <PowerTux> thats it Dr_Willis, thanks
[18:49] <pentester123> Dr_Willis: i imported the users and passwords with webmin
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Egonis: you may get joy with foremost on the partition being unmounted
[18:50] <Egonis> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: what model aspire one is it?
[18:51] <roestzwii> what is wrong to putty when there are comming ]]A and ]]B when i use the arrow keys
[18:51] <roestzwii> ?
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> roestzwii:  when using vi?  or always?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> roestzwii: if you want a telnet or ssh client, you can use the terminal....
[18:51] <Daniel0108> use: ssh username@serverip
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> roestzwii:  if when using vi. Install the vim package. the default is a vim-light package that has some differnt settings/limited features
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: the bottom of the system will tell you
[18:52] <Daniel0108> roestzwii: use: ssh username@serverip
[18:53] <zesoze> #subclipse
[18:54] <boomboorum2> ActionParsnip:  Aspire One   ZG5
[18:55] <TheMG> shcherbak: okay, i rebooted and it still doesnt see the partitions
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum2: cool, let me search
[18:57] <shcherbak> TheMG: sudo fdisk -l ???
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum2: try:  sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo; sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum2: find this which may be useful to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1039419
[19:00] <boomboorum2> ActionParsnip:  Thanks
[19:00] <Time`s_Witness> hey
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum2: p man
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> *np
[19:01] <rdesfo> has any one been able to get boxee to run in 11.04?
[19:01] <bhavesh> My college wont provide me internet and I want to install wine there, how can I? Is there any setup file which I can carry?
[19:02] <Time`s_Witness> what could cause wireless to have 100% packet loss to an outer place such as google please? Im connected to the wireless but can do nothing
[19:02] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | rdesfo
[19:02] <Tunix2> I want to add the group "sys" to read and write permissions for my directory /home/game I did a chown and now the files show that i own the directory but my sys group still cant write to the files. what gives?
[19:04] <intrader> Anyone, I have not seen any action on solving a problem I have with my fans continuously running since installing 10.10 - The computer is a Dell Inspirong 8200.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Tunix2: did you change the group access?
[19:06] <Tunix2> ActionParshnip: Not sure, I just ran a chown for sys
[19:06] <swores> howdy, I have a slightly random question
[19:06] <swores> is there any way to find out if the active user authenticated with a password or with an ssh key?
[19:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: "latest" being the installer off a livecd, they change quite a bit between versions wrt. little choices like the input method
[19:08] <michael_> I can't find anything on the Ubuntu website about LTS anymore.  How do I find the end of life for 8.04?
[19:08] <ohsix> so if you've been through upgrades instead of reinstalls like i have, you see few of the changes
[19:08] <TheMG> shcherbak: fdisk seems to see everything, but gparted doesnt
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I always clean install
[19:08] <TheMG> shcherbak: shall i post the fdisk output?
[19:08] <ThinkT510> !8.04 | michael_
[19:08] <ohsix> aux4u
[19:09] <ohsix> i know it didn't ask me, but i also didn't pick a nonenglish locale
[19:09] <linenoise> Is there an easy way to convert flac to mp3?  I tried soundconvert but it doesn't let you set the bitrate (it defaults to 128).
[19:09] <ohsix> i had to change it from none to ibus after the fact; when i enabled some foreign languages
[19:09] <rhizmoe> michael_: doesn't appear to be one
[19:09] <rhizmoe> OH!
[19:10] <rhizmoe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:10] <michael_> !lts
[19:10] <rhizmoe> that page needs updating, then
[19:10] <michael_> !eol
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> intrader: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396018   found that, seems the i8k module needs an option (run: lsmod   to check the module is being used)
[19:11] <bonhoffer> is there a way to see if there is a file in my directory that is not an xml file
[19:11] <pooltable> is there some old archive of all the old ubuntu snap shots of the desk top to look at likt windows from 1 to windows 7 now??
[19:11] <bonhoffer> something like ls not *.xml
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: you could run:  ls | grep -v xml
[19:12] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:13] <iceroot> bonhoffer: shopt -s extglob; ls !*.xml
[19:13] <bonhoffer> iceroot: that is a new one
[19:13] <iceroot> bonhoffer: i like to have shopt -s extglob in bashrc
[19:13] <bonhoffer> i'll have to look into shopt
[19:14] <TheMG> hey, fdisk is recognising my (w7 created) partitions but gparted isnt and neither does the ubuntu installer
[19:14] <iceroot> bonhoffer: or better, use zsh which is doing cool thinks like that by default
[19:14] <Adis34> Hello, How do you add command line parameters to games?
[19:14] <cry_on22> #ubuntu
[19:14] <iceroot> bonhoffer: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/bash-extended-globbing
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: if you are using win7 you can resize the ntfs in windows
[19:14] <iceroot> Adis34: game -foo - bar
[19:14] <Adis34> Like in Windows you can right click the shortcut, then put in command line parameters. How can you do that on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: i want to install ubuntu on the same hard drive
[19:15] <Adis34> game -foo bar?
[19:15] <Adis34> wheres that
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: you will, you can have more than one partition on a drive
[19:15] <iceroot> Adis34: just call it from the shell with your parameters
[19:15] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: i have a w7 partition,  another ntfs partition and some free space i left for linux. gparted sees only free space
[19:15] <iceroot> Adis34: or make a shotcut /path/to/game -foo -bar
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Adis34: make a launcher and you can add the options
[19:16] <ASTComputerResea> So, I have a couple of things, first up, ubuntu won't mount my floppy drive, and I've tried multiple drives and disks.
[19:16] <Adis34> oh i'll try that
[19:16] <gaurav_help> how can i check which version of java i am using
[19:16] <gaurav_help> in terminal
[19:16] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/U9m2D2Dc this is the fdisk output, sba is the important drive
[19:16] <oCean> gaurav_help: java -version
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: surely it seeing the free space is desirable, or does it see all the disk as free?
[19:17] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: it sees it all (2 TB) as free
[19:17] <ASTComputerResea> So, ubuntu won't mount my floppy drive, and I've tried multiple drives and disks.
[19:18] <gaurav_help> how i install tomcat6 in Ubuntu i tried many times .. but  it is not working for me
[19:18] <rypervenche> What is the default Traditional Chinese font on Maverick?
[19:18] <Adis34> ActionParsnip: Alright, now how do you add command line parameters to the Link target?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: strange, you could use fdisk to partition the space and set the partition type. May help
[19:18] <intrader> ActionParsnip, is that `lsmod |grep i8k`?
[19:18] <oCean> gaurav_help: it's in the repositories
[19:19] <gaurav_help> oCean, i am new user can u explain me how i do
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> intrader: the instructions in the link were prettyconsise,if it works you can add it to /etc/modprobe/i8k.conf
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> ASTComputerResea:  You tried mounting them by hand via the command line?
[19:19] <oCean> gaurav_help: in software center or 'sudo apt-get install tomcat6'
[19:20] <ASTComputerResea> Dr_Willis: no, not yet, I'm just wondering why the GUI won't do it.
[19:20] <BlipInTheData> Hmmm, the open ssh server can be stopped with stop right ?
[19:20] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: the hdd is GPT, and fdisk doesnt support it
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Adis34: make a new launcher on the desktop, you can then make it run the command you want with the options
[19:20] <BlipInTheData> /etc/init.d/ssh stop ?
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> ASTComputerResea:  because floppies i dont hinkhave auto-senceing  to know when the disk has changed.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: i see
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> ASTComputerResea:  i dont even have a pc with a floppy drive any more
[19:20] <rypervenche> How can I find out what the default font for the Traditional Chinese version of Ubuntu 10.10 is?
[19:20] <BlipInTheData> Anyone ?
[19:20] <KevinDivide> hey.. anyone see this message?
[19:20] <intrader> ActionParsnip, does lsmod show it is installed?
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  sudo service SERVICENAME stop  (is better practice)
[19:20] <ASTComputerResea> Dr_Willis: I do because I have so many darn legacy PC's
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you see it in the list, yes
[19:21] <Adis34> How do I make a launcher for a program?
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> ASTComputerResea:  make a script to mount them/unmount them put icon on the desktop.
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Adis34:  right clcik on desktop, new launcher.. (i think)
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Adis34: right click the desktop -> new launcher
[19:21] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: i have two hard drives. when i installed w7, it accidentally added itself to the bootloader of the OS on the other hard drive (sdb), could this be related?
[19:21] <ThinkT510> KevinDivide: yeah, you need any help?
[19:21] <ASTComputerResea> Dr_Willis: I'm not too good with the mount command and scripting, I'm used to just sticking the disk in the drive and typing A:
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> !mount | ASTComputerResea
[19:22] <BlipInTheData> Dr_Willis, can you tell me how to disable the shh server on startup ?
[19:22] <BlipInTheData> I dont want it to auto start.
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  rename the /etc/init/ssh.conf  file to be like ssh.DONTRUN
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  or edit its contents.. and tell it to not start.
[19:22] <BlipInTheData> thank you :)
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> not like its taking a lot of resources...
[19:23] <BlipInTheData> No but I don't like it running, cause of security.
[19:23] <KevinDivide> ThinkT510: Yes, need some help.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> TheMG: just win7 in the bootloader?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  the biggest danger i find to a Ubuntu system.. is the admin/owner.. not knowing what they are doing. :)
[19:24] <ThinkT510> KevinDivide: tell the channel your problem and if anyone knows the solution they'll talk
[19:24] <ASTComputerResea> Also, I would like to know how to get my serial PalmPilot Professional to sync with ubuntu
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: you may need add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[19:24] <ASTComputerResea> ActionParsnip: Do you know how?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> ASTComputerResea:  you would proberly have to hit up google for that. Or the forums..
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> I got an OLD serial palmpilot. :) not had it out in yeras.
[19:25] <KevinDivide> ThinkT510: I have been using 10.10 on my acer netbook no problem. Went up to 11.04 via package manager install last night.. trackpad decided to stop working. Rolled back to 10.10.. trackpad still didn't work.
[19:25] <KevinDivide> Back on 11.04 again, no trackpad.
[19:25] <KevinDivide> Usb mouse works.. but I'm left wondering what the fish happened
[19:25] <BlipInTheData> Dr_Willis, haha sure, but I just started this week.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: you can add: /dev/fd0/media/floppyautorw,noauto,user,sync0 0      all I did was websearch, and I found it...imagine
[19:25] <TheMG> ActionParsnip: no, on the old hard drive i had an installation of w7 and a wubi install of ubuntu, these appear, as does the new installation of w7
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  my router blocks incomming ssh from the internet. so i can just leave it running and use it on the local lan.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> KevinDivide: ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <ASTComputerResea> Dr_Willis: mines from either 96 or 97, palm OS 2.0.5
[19:25] <ThinkT510> KevinDivide: sorry, 11.04 support in #ubuntu+1 only
[19:26] <KevinDivide> oh ok, got it
[19:26] <KevinDivide> thankies!
[19:26] <ThinkT510> np
[19:26] <BlipInTheData> Dr_Willis, that sounds way better actually..
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> BlipInTheData:  and makes more sence. :)
[19:26] <BlipInTheData> True.
[19:26] <Adis34> I made a launcher for a game and its not starting up, how do i make it start up with WINE
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: you can then push in a floppy and run:  sudo mount /dev/fd0
[19:27] <Padster> Adis34: try including wine at the beginning of the command
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: in the output I butchered the spaces, its: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0
[19:27] <Adis34> Yeah its there Padster
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: you'll need to run:    sudo mkdir /media/floppy   to make the mount point
[19:27] <Adis34> Im adding  the command wine steam -silent -applaunch 400 -window -novid -dxlevel 80 -width 1024 -height 768
[19:27] <Padster> Adis34: so you have "wine /path/to/exe"?
[19:28] <iceroot> !playonlinux | Adis34
[19:28] <iceroot> :(
[19:28] <Adis34> oh
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Adis34: you may need the full path as Padster stated
[19:28] <iceroot> Adis34: have a look at playonlinux
[19:28] <Adis34> yeah i have PlayOnLinux
[19:28] <iceroot> Adis34: normally there you dont have to customize anything
[19:28] <jbroome__> wow, the xchat autojoin here is a-noyying
[19:28] <Padster> Adis34: you either need the full path or you need the launcher to run it from the directory the exe is in
[19:29] <ASTComputerResea> ActionParsnip: mount dumped the help screen in my face
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: did you remodify the line, my second fstab line is right the first is wrong
[19:30] <ASTComputerResea> ActionParsnip: screw it, I'll scrap together one of my lappys
[19:30] <ASTComputerResea> ActionParsnip: I tried the second one
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> ASTComputerResea: your call
[19:30] <Adis34> I don't know how to run a Non-Original game on PlayOnLinux though
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Adis34:  Non-Original? Huh?
[19:30] <Adis34> *coughs*Pirated*coughs*
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Adis34:  shouldent matter...
[19:30] <ASTComputerResea> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm just gonna rip the FDD out of my machine and throw another SCSI drive in its place
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> Adis34:  ive had to  use no-cd versions for some games in wine..
[19:31] <dr3mro> how to change the please wait .. into Ip value in this code http://pastebin.com/czutpSxX i can;t get it to work plz hel
[19:31] <Adis34> Yeah I know they can run in WINE
[19:31] <Padster> Adis34: did you try the full path?
[19:31] <Adis34> he was telling me to use PlayOnLinux
[19:31] <ASTComputerResea> Now, how would I add an fstab entry for my palm?
[19:31] <iceroot> Adis34: here is no support for piracy
[19:32] <Padster> Adis34: i've never used playonlinux, but i would try fixing the command
[19:32] <ASTComputerResea> I was just gonna put uCLinux on it but the loader jammed my cpu, now I want to sync and use it
[19:33] <matteppi> Hi guys, there is VERY simple IRC bot, that just make me op, when i log in?
[19:33] <iceroot> matteppi: #freenode
[19:33] <matteppi> for ubuntu..
[19:33] <Padster> Adis34: so maybe try: wine /path/to/steam.exe -silent -applaunch 400 -window -novid -dxlevel 80 -width 1024 -height 768
[19:33] <brontosaurusrex> how do i hide joins/parts in irssi?
[19:34] <wwwd> anybody using HP pavilion laptop and if so are you having problems with random freezing?
[19:34] <ASTComputerResea> brontosaurusrex: I would like to know that too, it is quite annoying.
[19:34] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: /IGNORE #channel ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS
[19:34] <Padster> anyway, i have to go now
[19:34] <Padster> bb
[19:34] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: also see /help ignore
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: thanks, will this stick?
[19:34] <ASTComputerResea> yay
[19:34] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: stick?
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: persist?
[19:35] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: /save
[19:35] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: then its written to the conf-file
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: great
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  for irssi and other similer clients (like weechat) you really should read a tutoral or 2 on them and their homepage/docs
[19:35] <ASTComputerResea> iceroot: thanks as well
[19:36] <elb0w> Is there a way to take a screenshot of only the active window?
[19:36] <iceroot> elb0w: alt + print
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  theres lots of stuff you will be overlooking  if you dont check their docs.
[19:36] <brontosaurusrex> Dr_Willis: i intend to.
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  if you like IRSSI. check out weechat someday. I perfer it to irssi now a days
[19:36] <elb0w> iceroot, does it go right to clipboard or something?
[19:37] <iceroot> elb0w: its calling the gnome-screenshot-thing
[19:37] <wwwd> elb0w: Applications>accesories>currnt window. I think.
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> Dr_Willis: i just imagine something precofigured that can be run on remote machine and accesed via ssh terminal
[19:37] <iceroot> elb0w: there you can choose to put it on clipboard
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> Dr_Willis: with screen
[19:37] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: bitchx, weechat, irssi
[19:38] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: but bitchx is no longer in development
[19:38] <brontosaurusrex> Dr_Willis: and weechat is great becouse of ...?
[19:38] <shcherbak> brontosaurusrex: irssi is great, coz is the best.
[19:38] <pirx> hello! i have installed lucid server edition. ssh tab completion doesnt work. i have uncommented the bach_completion lines in /etc/bash.bashrc, but that didnt help. any ideas?
[19:39] <iceroot> shcherbak: there is no best
[19:39] <Mjbmr> Hello, Where i can help on localizations ?
[19:39] <shcherbak> iceroot: In generel opinion.
[19:40] <shcherbak> pirx: What command, ssh ... what?
[19:41] <brontosaurusrex> pirx: echo $SHELL
[19:41] <shcherbak> pirx: And what your shell, sh or bash?
[19:43] <FreeAsInHat> Hi, I can't get Ubuntu to boot.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  better feature set then irssi has. Including 'smart' ignores/filtering
[19:43] <FreeAsInHat> I have a Dell Inspiron 6000.
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  if youa re going to be sshing in and doing irc. learn to use screen and/or znc also with the irc client
[19:44] <uotuiouio> THE EASTER SEASON IS HERE,ONCE AGAIN.  HAVE YOU FOUND JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR?? REPENT NOW, OR BURN IN HELL FOREVER. GO TO CHURCH THIS SUNDAY AND ASK JESUS CHRIST FOR FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS.  uotuiouio lucas-arg amorphous1 ministry[seannig FreeAsInHat soreau Wolfsherz wollex dr3mro vcn foozmeat rodrigo_imbika king09 rcmaehl katsrc andi_ hele termleech mmasaya prime Robert__ wainersm Time`s_Witness avdi1 avdi Mjbmr koff_syrup elb0w O
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[19:44] <FloodBot2> uotuiouio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Kvik_Sverige> FreeAsInHat, what error do u get?
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> Dr_Willis: anything else to screen than "screen -r" and "ctrl +a d" ? < thats all i know :)
[19:45] <FreeAsInHat> It has the purple loading screen with the flashing dots, then after about 5 minutes the dots stop flashing and it just sits there.  Left it for 30 minutes before gave up.  Tried another CD and no luck.
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> brontosaurusrex:  dozens of guides.. 'byobu' is screen with more friendlier keyboard settings also.
[19:45] <Kvik_Sverige> brokenda1apoint, look at man screen
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> FreeAsInHat:  whats your video chipset? if nvidia - try the 'nomodeset' option.. may as well try it reguardless of your chipset :)
[19:46] <Kvik_Sverige> FreeAsInHat, & Dr_Willis what abount the alterntev cd?
[19:46] <FreeAsInHat> I think it is just Intel integrated graphics.  How do I try this option?
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Kvik_Sverige:  What about it?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> FreeAsInHat:  may as well.  :)
[19:47] <Kvik_Sverige> Can't he use that?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Kvik_Sverige:  he could try.
[19:47] <pirx> shcherbak brontosaurusrex : bash
[19:47] <pirx> it started working once a .ssh/known_hosts was created
[19:47] <brontosaurusrex> another related q: is it possible to set the line kerning with gnome-terminal ?
[19:47] <brontosaurusrex> the line height i mean
[19:48] <pirx>  $ ssh <alias>   weird
[19:48] <Kvik_Sverige> brontosaurusrex, sudo lshw
[19:48] <FreeAsInHat> What is the alternative CD?  How can I set this option "nomodeset" on boot?
[19:48] <ThinkT510> !alternative
[19:48] <Kvik_Sverige> FreeAsInHat, it's another image
[19:49] <brontosaurusrex> Kvik_Sverige: hardware lister has anything to do with terminal font display?
[19:49] <Kuus> hello
[19:50] <Kuus> is there a way to control the bandwith of a adhoc network?
[19:50] <mali> LMFAO.. now you guys better answer this: I run a self copmpiled FF4 nightly in V8 benchmark and score 5600 , chrome 6300... and ubuntu's version in 10.10 keeps A. stopping on each script and scores a measly 350!
[19:50] <FreeAsInHat> @Kvik_Sverige Okay, will download that.  Is there a way to apply this nomodeset option with my current CD?
[19:50] <Enchilada> Hmm does /sbin/iptables not come bundled with a barebones Ubuntu 10.10 as it did in 10.04 ?
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Enchilada:  as far as i know it comes with it..
[19:51] <Enchilada> weird, it's not here :S
[19:51] <Kvik_Sverige> FreeAsInHat, when u boot someting with the F keys
[19:51] <ohsix> derpy doo
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Enchilada:  the ufw firewall tool has to be using somting to configfure the rules..
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Night all.. bbl
[19:51] <Kvik_Sverige> FreeAsInHat, some fkey for display i think
[19:51] <ohsix> Dr_Willis: netlink
[19:52] <FreeAsInHat> Okay, will Google it and see.  Cheers
[19:52] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I am working on the recommend i8k on the Dell computer; I will keep you posted
[19:55] <itilious> does /usr/local/bin not exist in maverick?
[19:55] <itilious> i'm trying to make ASLA my default audio instead of pulseaudio and the guide i'm using calls to extract into that folder, but it doesnt exist
[19:56] <seidos> itilious: it does on my system
[19:56] <LjL> itilious: i'm not sure it's supposed to exist before it gets created by something in the first place. anyway, just create it?
[19:56] <itilious> does that mean my installation has bad now?
[19:56] <neurochrome> I'm in urgent need of help.  I have an external esata drive that has suddenly just 'lost' lots of folders.  The weird thing is the space is still used on the drive and when I run "ls" the folders show up.  nautilus (run as user or root) fails to see the folders.  What is going off!?
[19:56] <itilious> is there a command i can add to the 'tar' command to create the directory?
[19:57] <LjL> itilious: how's about you just type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin" before the tar part?
[19:57] <itilious> simple enough :)
[19:58] <Cas07> looking for some clarification, i have a user asking why an application cannot automount a partition when gnome is able to.
[19:59] <Time`s_Witness> mmm. im having some dns problems, nslookup resolves nicely but ping doesn't, nor any other software such as a browser. already tried editing nsswitch.conf as i saw suggested after some googling but it didnt solve. Any ideas please? :P
[20:00] <mali> http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/benchmarks/v6/run.html
[20:00] <mali> here, can soeone try their 10.10 firefox in this
[20:00] <mali> and please tell me it's juts somethign wrong here...
[20:00] <mali> prolly the flash plugin
[20:01] <Polah> mali: What is it?
[20:01] <mali> because 385 is like
[20:01] <mali> it is a benchmark for browsers
[20:01] <mali> my nightly compile on 10.10 gives 5600 which is what it should be,
[20:01] <Polah> mali: It's running something on the right
[20:01] <mali> also, which cpu do you have and speed Polah?
[20:01] <mali> yes
[20:01] <mali> thats the tests
[20:01] <mali> just waittill it's done
[20:01] <FloodBot2> mali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <mali> ~ 30 secs
[20:02] <ptl1977> anyone had any issues in the past creating new users and then not being able to login with the new account?
[20:02] <itilious> is it EXTREMELY not recommended for a new person to linux to be self-hosting a website from home?
[20:02] <mali> polah, which FF version are you using during the test , and what cpu (cores and speed do you have?) I need to torubleshoot this
[20:02] <Polah> mali: AMD Athlon II X2 @ 3.0Ghz. The script has stopped twice at 67% and 78% but I set it to continue. Final score is 490
[20:02] <mali> itilious: NOT if it is a production server
[20:03] <mali> yes Polah EXACTLY.. UNACCEPTABLE
[20:03] <rypervenche> itilious: It's fine.
[20:03] <mali> lmao.. I didn't realise the ubuntu packages were so DONK :/
[20:03] <Pici> mali: File a bug.
[20:03] <Draco_> hi! I just installed the latest Ubuntu release on my HD, resizing an existing partition: that partition is now UNREADABLE, any ideas?
[20:03] <mali> itilious: if it is just a home page, you should be ok..
[20:03] <itilious> ya i wont be hosting other sites and doing quite a bit of traffic stuff, just wanna host my own freelance work site :
[20:03] <Polah> mali: 3.6.16 on Ubuntu 10.10. AMD Athlon II X2, dual core @ ~3.0GHz. Script froze but continued when allowed at 67 and 78%, final score of 490
[20:04] <itilious> mali, i will be using joomla tho, would that make it much more not recommended?
[20:04] <Polah> Draco_: 10.10 or 11.04
[20:04] <mali> Pici: nah, I am moving on to another distro, I couldn't stand natty's UI but I was using 10.10 as a web development workstation but alwasy FF was so bad on it, now I know it isn't FF but ubuntu, I would reocmmend to make sure your packages perfomrm ebtter on such crucial packages
[20:04] <Draco_> 10.10 ....
[20:05] <Draco_> but it updated during the install, not sure what version is now
[20:05] <Pici> mali: You're talking to users here, not developers. If you want to actually make a difference then you should file a bug.
[20:05] <Draco_> since that genious installed the bootloader on the wrong HD
[20:05] <Sprinky> I am having trouble booting Ubuntu from a USB stick on my Dell XPS 630i
[20:05] <mali> itilious: you will be fine as such.. the dangers are 'security' and of course having the bandwidth.. it is ok, but just rea dup on security and spend some time and have patience before you set up your system live
[20:05] <mali> :)
[20:05] <ions> I have read online that in general most linux distros do not keep the creation date of files only the modified dates. Is this correct?
[20:05] <mali> ah ok Pici
[20:05] <rhizmoe> ions: url please
[20:06] <itilious> awesome
[20:06] <itilious> brb
[20:06] <itilious> actually i have another question
[20:06] <itilious> where can i read up on why my boot up doesnt show plymouth theme?
[20:06] <boomboorum> I am back with the same problem.    "Cannot identify device '/dev/video0"
[20:06] <itilious> it didnt show original, then i tried installing a custom plymouth theme and still nothing
[20:07] <itilious> only a cursor blinking, then flashes, then smaller cursor blinking, then a gross looking purple with "ubuntu 10.10" for like 2 seconds
[20:07] <ions> rhizmoe: http://forums.devshed.com/unix-help-35/how-to-get-the-file-creation-date-450882.html tldr; most file systems do not contain this information and that ctime is really the modified time. I have also read this on other sites as I didn't initially believe it.
[20:07] <intrader> ActionParsnip, unable to locate package gkrellm-i8k; what can I do?
[20:08] <Draco_> look nvm, can I get the name of the italian language ubuntu help channel? it's probably less crowded
[20:08] <Pici> Draco_: #ubuntu-it
[20:08] <humbolt> Who can tell me, what is going on here with mdadm? http://pastie.org/1808343
[20:08] <Draco_> thanks
[20:09] <Draco_> join #ubuntu-it
[20:10] <bobweaver> hello ther
[20:10] <bobweaver> there*
[20:10] <bobweaver> FAT FINGERS
[20:10] <chotaz> Has anyone managed to get a NGS Spincam working on Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:11] <bobweaver>  are all these ip that are passing with the names?
[20:11] <brontosaurusrex> well, weechat certainly has a more xchat-ish look by default, i like
[20:11] <rhizmoe> ions: ctime being the birth time of the inode seems reasonableish
[20:11] <bobweaver> or are they the usernames
[20:11] <rhizmoe> i figure the ppl writing the filesystems know what they're doing
[20:11] <erUSUL> rhizmoe: but it is not
[20:12] <erUSUL> unix does not store file birth/creation time
[20:12] <rhizmoe> well...it can be :) maybe not on ext4, but i checked bsd too and so there is some variation
[20:12] <K350> how to find out what x session is running?
[20:12] <bobweaver> @k350 "top"
[20:14] <ions> erUSUL: so there is no way to tell when a file was created?
[20:14] <erUSUL> rhizmoe: is not posix so no portable. i heard of the BS extensions too. and ext4 probably can store it... but the tools ( find; ls cp rsync  etc...)  are not written to take that into account
[20:15] <erUSUL> BSD*
[20:15] <erUSUL> ions: no
[20:15] <Guest85474> hi all
[20:16] <sadin> i installed LAMP and when i goto my www directory to edit the default index.html file i cannot edit or delete because its READ ONLY even though i am administrator can some one help me fix permissions so i may develop in my server?
[20:16] <Guest85474> ama tova eglavniat prozorec pokazva koi se kanektva i koi izliza
[20:17] <ThinkT510> !pl | Guest85474
[20:17] <itilious> why does "sound settings" say constantly "waiting for sound system to respond" after replacing pulseaudio with aslamixer?
[20:18] <sadin> how can i give my self permission to make changes in my LAMP directory so i may work with the webserver
[20:18] <anna> how can i download films with ubuntu?
[20:19] <anna> how can i get torrent for ubunutu
[20:19] <itilious> wow, after quite a bit of searching around everyone seems to HATE pulseaudio
[20:19] <Pici> !piracy | anna
[20:19] <itilious> why is it still being put in ubuntu then?
[20:19] <Guest85474> apache config
[20:19] <Guest85474> for directori
[20:20] <Guest85474> change
[20:20] <Guest85474> r
[20:20] <anna> ok understood, but why is ubuntu useful?
[20:20] <Guest85474> za da smeni
[20:21] <Polah> Pici: Torrenting =/= Piracy. Also, it's not piracy if it'd be sharing something like Ubuntu, unless I guess it's specifically not allowed by Canonical.
[20:21] <rypervenche> anna: Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux. It is a very nice operating system. :)
[20:21] <Pici> Polah: I realize what torrenting is. But asking that after asking how to download films usually implies piracy.
[20:21] <Guest85474> yes
[20:21] <Guest85474> 6+
[20:21] <erUSUL> !p2p | anna
[20:21] <Guest85474> ubuntu
[20:21] <Guest85474> all version
[20:21] <erUSUL> !bitttorrent > anna
[20:22] <erUSUL> !bittorrent > anna
[20:22] <Polah> Pici: Oh I missed the bit about films. I only saw the part about torrenting Ubuntu. My mistake
[20:22] <plainas> female handle in the channel ahah
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> uhmm, how to hide time-stamps in weechat?
[20:22] <George234> hey guys
[20:22] <Guest85474> hi
[20:22] <Guest85474> h
[20:23] <George234> does this chan cover development?
[20:23] <Corey> !dev
[20:23] <Corey> George234: Go read ^^
[20:23] <anna> thank you folks! very kind!
[20:23] <Guest85474> georgi ne lisi ot BG be?
[20:23] <mekwall> how can I set permissions so that files and directories inherit the parent directory permissions per default?
[20:24] <Guest85474> chmod man
[20:24] <Guest85474> change
[20:24] <anna> i thought this was a bisex chat...
[20:24] <mekwall> Guest85474: not per default... and umask is not a solution either
[20:24] <Pici> anna: Gender has no bearing on how we answer questions here.
[20:24] <Guest85474> tuka horata s edopitvat koe kak d apraviat v linuxa
[20:24] <Guest85474> koito neznaiat
[20:24] <Guest85474> i tuka namirat otgovora
[20:24] <Pici> !english | Guest85474
[20:24] <anna> warum lacht da einer uer mich?
[20:25] <sadin> all the files in my var directory are read only even though im administrator how can i make changes to them
[20:25] <anna> pici: very clear
[20:26] <George234> right guys al just throw this out here and see if anyone knows....im compiling my own live cd based on natty but all ive replaced is the vmlinux and initrd.img to fine virtual flash partitions so from the off on the installer it can see my partition...now ive followed this tut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization but it has no mention to whether i need to alter the md5sum
[20:26] <George234> for changing the files i have
[20:26] <samebody> somebody
[20:27] <erUSUL> sadin: standar practice afaik is to add yourself to the www-data group
[20:27] <sadin> how would i do that?
[20:27] <Polah> George234: The md5sum of files changes as the files does
[20:27] <sadin> erUSUL how would i do that
[20:28] <erUSUL> sadin: sudo adduser "$USER" www-data
[20:28] <George234> see it only really mentions changing md5sum and adding public key for packages
[20:28] <George234> those files aint packages
[20:28] <George234> they are the kernel files
[20:28] <anna> pici: you think you know well about piracy? or maybe about legal aspects in ruanda? copyright is not the same everywhere!!!!!
[20:29] <ThinkT510> anna: this is ubuntu support, do you need help?
[20:29] <brerrabbit> Hello everyone. Is this an appropriate channel to seek assistance on a troubled install?
[20:29] <rww> anna: Legal aspects in ruanda aren't relevant to an organization centered in the UK and the US.
[20:29] <QuiSe> Anyone have a concret fix on the "Left-Mouse-Button" -problem for Ubuntu 10.10. ? Im about to move out of 10.04.2
[20:29] <Polah> brerrabbit, an installation of Ubuntu, yes.
[20:30] <Polah> QuiSe: What problem?
[20:30] <QuiSe> Polah,  let me give you a URL
[20:30] <sadin> erUSUL it still makes files in WWW directory read only do i need to restart my machine?
[20:30] <George234> im guessin no one knows then
[20:30] <George234> cheers anywayz guys =)
[20:30] <brerrabbit> trying install Maverick Meerat on a powermac g5 (PPC)
[20:30] <QuiSe> Polah, http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-10-left-mouse-stop-working-issue.html
[20:30] <anna> rww: someone told about uk or the US?
[20:30] <brerrabbit> through a pendrive
[20:31] <Polah> Sadin: You could set up a simple cron job to change permissions
[20:31] <QuiSe> Polah, ergo; you cant click with your mouse in X.
[20:31] <yabuk> how to install ubuntu keeping old home folder?
[20:31] <Draco_> hi again, I'll try to ask: I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my HD, resizing an existing partition to create the space for it, now that partition I resized can't be read anymore, at least under windows, this is my situation http://www.webalice.it/asimov12/images/Immagine.JPG, (I:\) is the one that can't be read, ubuntu is right after that, ubuntu itself doesn't run because the installer but the bootloader on the wrong HD, my priority now is
[20:31] <Time`s_Witness> mmm. im having some dns problems, nslookup resolves nicely but ping doesn't, nor any other software such as a browser. already tried editing nsswitch.conf as i saw suggested in many places: modifying hosts line to "hosts: files dns" but it didnt solve. Can anyone help me please? :X
[20:31] <sadin> Polah i dont know how i would do that :/
[20:31] <Polah> QuiSe: I don't know anything about that and haven't experienced any problems like it.
[20:31] <brerrabbit> and all the document i have found discuss editing a file that doesnt seem to exist in the distro
[20:31] <Polah> sadin: Ask then
[20:31] <anna> how cani i upgrade my ubuntu ver. 10.4?
[20:31] <QuiSe> Polah,  lucky you I guess ..
[20:31] <sadin> How do i setup a cron job to change permissions
[20:32] <rww> !upgrade > anna
[20:32] <KM0201> Draco_: Windows cannot natively read Linux filesystems... thats why you can't see it under windows
[20:32] <Corey> sadin: That's almost definitely the wrong way to do whatever it is you're trying to do.
[20:32] <Proxypoke> hello #ubuntu, I'm currently fiddling with ssh and X11 forwarding. Is there a way to remotely start Xclients so they run the GUI on the machine you ssh'd into?
[20:32] <erUSUL> sadin: log out and log in again
[20:32] <sadin> ok
[20:32] <Draco_> KM0201, no, the NTFS partition that I resized to accomodate the ext4 can't be read
[20:32] <anna> ok i'll try
[20:33] <KM0201> whats the filesystem on it?
[20:33] <Kvik_Sverige> Proxypoke, what abount VNC?
[20:33] <KM0201> Draco_: wait, are you trying to use Wubi?
[20:33] <Proxypoke> I want to get it running over ssh
[20:33] <KM0201> "ubuntu.exe'
[20:33] <KM0201> ?
[20:33] <Proxypoke> also, the computer I ssh from is pretty weak
[20:33] <Draco_> KM0201, I don't even know what that is
[20:34] <anna> rww: geh in die scheisse deines vaters!!! thank you!!!
[20:34] <Proxypoke> so I dunno if it can handle a VNC session
[20:34] <brerrabbit> polah: I'm trying install Maverick Meerat on a powermac g5 (PPC) through a pendrive, and all the document i have found discuss editing / renaming isolinux / syslinux.cfg. this File doesnt exist in the distro.
[20:34] <KM0201> Draco_: are you inserting the cd, and clicking Install, and it goes through the whole process under Windows?
[20:34] <Kvik_Sverige> Proxypoke, i don't know then
[20:34] <yoghrt> Hello, I have a problem with my mobile phone, everything is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723629, thanks for your help
[20:34] <Proxypoke> hm
[20:34] <Proxypoke> I got a remote mplayer working, but it started on my machine A (the one I ssh from) instead of machine B (where it is supposed to run)
[20:35] <Draco_> KM0201, no no no, you got this all wrong, Ubuntu installed itself fine, I didn't even try to run it yet but at this point I don't care, I need to recover my date from the ntfs partition ( I:\ , on that image )
[20:35] <Draco_> data*
[20:35] <Polah> Draco_: Look into a recovery program like Recuva for Windows. NTFS tools for Linux aren't quite as good as they are for Windows
[20:36] <anna> is it possible to get firewalled from porn sites with ubuntu? how? i would like to be secure that my children don't download porn films!!
[20:36] <KM0201> Draco_: ok.. i don't know on that.. thats really a windows question, not a linux question.
[20:36] <Draco_> KM0201 well since ubuntu made the mess, I tought you might know what caused it
[20:36] <ooxi> anna, impossible with every operating system
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> anna: easier just use opendns and set settings there
[20:36] <Muzer> my DPI is wrong, and I have no clue how I would fix it because there's no Xorg.conf in *Buntu...
[20:36] <Draco_> Recuva you say? I'll look into it
[20:36] <KM0201> Draco_: i'd suggest ubuntu didn't make the mess.... but thats another issue.
[20:36] <TerryBook> I believe there is some sort of parental control software you can install, isn't there?
[20:36] <rww> anna: #ubuntu is English-language, and family friendly. Profanity in German is not a good idea.
[20:36] <Proxypoke> anna, how about talking with your children about it, or, depending on their age, don't let them use the computer by themselves?
[20:36] <erUSUL> anna: use a external system like opendns one?
[20:37] <rww> anna: look into dansguardian for content filtering.
[20:37] <maco> Muzer: xrandr --output  <output name>  --dpi 135   (or whatever... get the output's name from the "xrandr" command run by itself)
[20:37] <erUSUL> !info dansguardian
[20:37] <sadin> erUSUL it didnt work i still cannot edit files in my LAMP directory or make or delete any
[20:37] <erUSUL> sadin: ls -l /var/www/
[20:37] <Muzer> maco: is that permanent? That sounds awfully like a thing that only lasts one session to me ;)
[20:37] <intrader> Anyone, unable to locate package gkrellm-i8k; what can I do?
[20:38] <Draco_> KM0201, yes it did, by my hands of course, but still ...
[20:38] <Muzer> maco: not actually sure what the DPI should be, but I know it shouldn't be 128x96 as the TV has square pixels ;)
[20:38] <sadin> erURUL yes im trying to access /var/www
[20:38] <KM0201> Draco_: the second part of your statement, explains it perfect.. "by my hands"... thats the only reason that happened....
[20:38] <maco> !resolution | Muzer, to make it permanent look at the stuff about making xrandr commands permanent
[20:38] <erUSUL> sadin: pastebin the result of that command please
[20:39] <anna> dansguardian...i tried it but it doesn't work...or maybe i'm not able to perform it
[20:39] <sadin> wait what command
[20:39] <sadin> sorry
[20:39] <yabuk> so is not there a way to reinstall ubuntu keeping old home folder?
[20:39] <erUSUL> sadin: ls -l /var/www/*
[20:39] <maco> Muzer: check out the xrandr manpage. you can also adjust dpi by telling it the display's size in millimetres
[20:39] <anna> i will try another time but it's strange...
[20:39] <fakiesk8r333> does anybody know how hard it is to remove ubuntu from a macbook
[20:39] <sadin> ErUSUL so im trying just that in terminal?
[20:39] <maco> yabuk: in manual partition mode, choose to use the same / and uncheck the "format" box. /home will be saved
[20:39] <Planet_EN> using xpidl, it says libglib-1.2.so.0 is not found, but I already have a newer version, the version I have installed is 2.0.. what should I do?
[20:40] <erUSUL> sadin: yes; i want to see the current permissions on the folder
[20:40] <brerrabbit> Will Maverick Meerkat run off of a pen drive?
[20:40] <ThinkT510> brerrabbit: yes
[20:40] <anna> rww: it wasn't profanity..ithe meaning was something like cheers or good luck
[20:40] <ThinkT510> !usb | brerrabbit
[20:41] <fakiesk8r333> does anybody know how hard it is to remove ubuntu from a macbook
[20:41] <rww> anna: Unfortunately, the two German speakers I asked and Google disagree with you.
[20:41] <NeuralJack> Is someone available to help me with gnome-terminal's Default configuration Profile?  I fear I pooched mine up on accident.
[20:42] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: change it back to normal ?
[20:42] <anna> rww: i don't know where your two german chat friends are from, but google for sure is not german
[20:42] <brerrabbit> ubottu: thank you. Ive followed that page already. It didn't work
[20:42] <Cube``> is there a setting that could be preventing me from having a passwordless login on my ssh server?
[20:42] <plainas> NeuralJack, just delete it
[20:43] <NeuralJack> erUSUL:  Yes, please.  THe gnome-terminal window only stays open for a few moments otherwise I"d go into the Profile editor and fix it.
[20:43] <fakiesk8r333> does anybody know how hard it is to remove ubuntu from a macbook
[20:43] <anna> rww: ask your german friends if they have ever eb
[20:43] <Cube``> is there a setting that could be preventing me from having a passwordless login on my ssh server?
[20:43] <fakiesk8r333> i wanna try it for a few weeks but i dont wanna b stuck with it if i dont like it
[20:43] <brerrabbit> ThinkT510: Thank you for the response.  I have already followed the pages linked to by ubotto, and it won't boot.
[20:43] <anna> rww: ever been to lenin, next to berlin...
[20:43] <NeuralJack> Is there a way to delete the profile from a commandline outside of gnome-termimal?
[20:43] <hyper_> i need help
[20:43] <Proxypoke> anna, ich spreche deutsch und das war ganz bestimmt NICHT "viel glück"
[20:44] <hyper_> my mouse freezes sumtime in ubuntu 10.10
[20:44] <MK``> ask your question hyper_ :)
[20:44] <Proxypoke> :|
[20:44] <brerrabbit> because of the lack of a syslinux bootloader
[20:44] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: that's really weird. can you launch it from another terminal emulator? xterm is allways aviable... do alt + f2 launch xterm and from it launch gnome-terminal. see if any maningfull error message is displayed
[20:44] <Guest63988> is it a bug?
[20:44] <Guest63988> i had a fresh install twice
[20:44] <yabuk> thank you, maco, if I unchek "format", will the installer replace the old system or add a new one keeping the old system files (by the way I loose disck space with system files that I don't realy need)?
[20:44] <Guest63988> bt of no use
[20:44] <Guest63988> :(
[20:44] <sadin> erUSUL here is the result of command:
[20:44] <sadin> http://pastebin.com/U8Nv8juc
[20:44] <Guest63988> MK''
[20:44] <Guest63988> ?
[20:44] <anna> proxypoke: woher kommst du? etwa aus burkina faso?
[20:44] <MK``> I don't know, I am one of the askers ^^
[20:45] <Draco_> KM0201, it's just a matter of "points of view", anyway I'm just trying to solve the problem here,  forgive me but I'm a bit frustrated atm
[20:45] <Guest63988> is there a fix?
[20:45] <ThinkT510> brerrabbit: sorry, i've never used a ubuntu usb install, so i don't have the experience to help
[20:45] <maco> yabuk: replace
[20:45] <Planet_EN> executing xpidl, it says libglib-1.2.so.0 is not found, but I already have a newer version, the version I have installed is 2.0.. what should I do?
[20:45] <rww> !de | anna, Proxypoke
[20:45] <logjam> I was wondering if anyone knew of or could recommend a free HDD recov utility for windows XP
[20:45] <bonny> does anyone know a distro thats very similar to windows xp
[20:45] <mekwall> ehm...
[20:45] <brerrabbit> ThinkT510 thank you anyway
[20:45] <mekwall> this is irritating
[20:45] <fakiesk8r333> can you delete and recover a ubuntu installation on osx?
[20:45] <Proxypoke> rww, I just told her that this was for sure not "good luck". I am sorry.
[20:45] <rypervenche> bonny: There is one, but it's still in alpha.
[20:45] <NeuralJack> erUSUL, there is no error message.  I think I tagged an option to automatically close the window after the command completes.
[20:46] <bonny> whats it called
[20:46] <yabuk> ok, maco, thank you
[20:46] <Draco_> Polah, I'm trying this Recuva program, it can access the drive ... and finds ... some files I deleted today, but I can't see the rest - sorry, probably this is a bit off-topic
[20:46] <rypervenche> bonny: I forgot. OSGUI on Youtube went over it in one of his videos.
[20:46] <mekwall> my user is in group www-data, but I don't have permission to write in a dir chmodded with 2775
[20:46] <Guest63988> plz help
[20:46] <Guest63988> :9
[20:46] <Guest63988> :(
[20:46] <bonny> well that helped alot
[20:46] <Polah> Draco_: I've never used it, sorry, I just know it's supposedly good
[20:47] <rypervenche> bonny: It exists, but it is almost EXACTLY like Windows, just free.
[20:47] <rypervenche> bonny: I would recommend just using KDE.
[20:47]  * L-Strife89 wonders is 11.04 has an expected release date yet.
[20:47] <bonny> ok
[20:47] <chotaz> Has anyone managed to get a NGS Spincam working on Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:47] <Guest63988> ??
[20:47] <ThinkT510> bonny: there is reactos, an opensource implementation (not based on linux)
[20:47] <fakiesk8r333> somebody help me
[20:47] <L-Strife89> rypervenche: ReactOS, I presume?
[20:48] <bonny> o
[20:48] <dajhorn> mekwall: Run `groups` at the prompt and double-check.  Remember that you need to logout/login for new group membership to be effective.
[20:48] <bonny> ok
[20:48] <Guest63988> my mouse freezes sumtimes,, is it a bug?
[20:48] <Time`s_Witness> ..
[20:48] <Guest63988> and if it is thn whats the fix
[20:48] <Guest63988> in ubuntu 10.10
[20:48] <rypervenche> L-Strife89: I think that's it.
[20:48] <Guest63988> i had fresh install twice
[20:48] <Time`s_Witness> thanks anyway :)
[20:48] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: run « gconf-editor » go to the gnaome-terminal conf options and change as needed ?
[20:48] <DJones> bonny: You might be thinking of ylmf os although its not supported here
[20:48] <fakiesk8r333> need help
[20:48] <L-Strife89> rypervenche: I've been checking on it every so often. IIRC, when I last checked development was practically stalled.
[20:48] <iratik> Can anyone please help me with setting the timezone on ubuntu 10.04 server.. Its a total mess and i've followed the instructions at least 20 times ..  The clock keeps setting to UTC and i really need the server time to show CDT so that when "date" is ran.. the results are in CDT… and such that this behavior is default for all daemons and processes (not just the current user) ….  Here is the pastie http://pastie.org/1808532
[20:49] <sadin> erUSUL did you get the paste bin?
[20:49] <rypervenche> L-Strife89: Doesn't surprise me.
[20:49] <bonny> I have heard of ylmf
[20:49] <rypervenche> L-Strife89: `It looks like a horrible idea :X
[20:49] <erUSUL> sadin: yes; give a sec
[20:49] <L-Strife89> rypervenche: That said, it looks like it could be promising if they pick up some steam again.
[20:49] <sadin> erUSUL ok just makin sure you got it :)
[20:49] <dajhorn> iratik: What does `cat /etc/timezone` show you?
[20:50] <L-Strife89> rypervenche: That said, it looks like it could be promising if they pick up some steam again.
[20:50] <L-Strife89> Oops
[20:50] <L-Strife89> But I'm not holding my breath over it.
[20:50] <iratik> dajhorn: America/Chicago
[20:50] <Draco_> Polah, found it, recovering right now, thanks a lot for the help
[20:50] <L-Strife89> Blasted arrow keys being right next to Enter.
[20:50] <NeuralJack> erSUSL, Wow.. this is a really cool utility.....  I had no idea about this.
[20:50] <Guest63988> ???/
[20:50] <Guest63988> sumbody plz
[20:50] <bonny> reactos is a pretty small size too
[20:51] <erUSUL> sadin: sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www/
[20:51] <bonny> just what i need
[20:51] <Guest63988> :(
[20:51] <erUSUL> !panels
[20:51] <L-Strife89> Guest63988: Ask your question again, and have a little patience. :)
[20:51] <dajhorn> iratik: My system is the same as your pastebin example, but everything happens in CDT.  What happens if you disable ntpdate and/or ntpd?
[20:51] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: you could also use --> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal
[20:51] <Guest63988> i asked twice , i think
[20:51] <Guest63988> ok
[20:52] <Guest63988> m will have patience
[20:52] <dajhorn> iratik: Is this maybe a virtual machine?
[20:52] <Guest63988> my mouse freezes
[20:52] <Guest63988> ??
[20:52] <iratik> not a virtual machine but ntpd is running on this server
[20:52] <iratik> dajhorn: not a virtual machine but ntpd is running on this server
[20:52] <NeuralJack> erUSUL, I was able to unkey the change I made to the default profile, thank you.  Gnome-terminal is now working normally.
[20:53] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: no problem
[20:53] <dajhorn> iratik: Temporarily disable ntpd, reboot, and check whether the time is stable.
[20:53] <sadin> erSUSUL i ran the script in the terminal is prompts for password and thats it now should i try relogging?
[20:53] <brerrabbit> anyone here happen to run ubuntu on ppc?
[20:54] <erUSUL> sadin: do « sudo chmod -R g+w  /var/www/ »
[20:54] <sadin> <<
[20:54] <Nastya> Hi there!
[20:54] <sadin> erUSUL ok
[20:54] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:55] <NeuralJack> erUSUL, that Reset to default command...  do I include both question marks in that or are you using them as a container?
[20:55] <sadin> erUSUL nothing happens
[20:55] <dajhorn> iratik: Also check whether you have an evironment variable set to override the time zone.   echo $TZDIR;  echo $TZ
[20:55] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: if you alrady fixed the issue you do not need it. i use it as "container" ;P
[20:56] <erUSUL> sadin: now try to edit the file with your favorite text editor
[20:56] <dajhorn> iratik: Check /etc/localtime too.
[20:56] <NeuralJack> erUSUL, I'm keeping it for future reference if the need ever arises again.  thanks again!
[20:56] <erUSUL> NeuralJack: no problem; again
[20:56] <sadin> erUSUL your the best man thanks so much now i can develop! :D
[20:57] <iratik> dajhorn: Out of all those you mentioned.. only TZDIR was not set.. everything said America/Chicago
[20:57] <dajhorn> iratik: Strange.  I don't have any more ideas.
[20:58] <iratik> thanks
[20:58] <erUSUL> sadin: no problem
[20:59] <arcsky> hey where can i change welcome message when i SSH to my box ?
[20:59] <dajhorn> arcsky:  /etc/issue
[21:00] <dajhorn> arcsky: Also /etc/motd
[21:00] <K350> is the session ID the same as the process ID?
[21:01] <wazzup> is there a way to get SideWinder X6 macro's keys working on ubuntu ????
[21:01] <alejandro> Does anyone know how to get the email notification bubble to repeat in Natty?
[21:02] <hwilde> how do I prevent fsck check on boot?  (headless server install, needs to ALWAYS boot)
[21:03] <hwilde> I need it to ALWAYS boot, and never sit there waiting for a prompt to press C to continue or F to fix
[21:03] <hwilde> because there is no person there and no keyboard plugged in either
[21:03] <dajhorn> hwilde:  tune2fs -i0 -c0 /dev/MyDisk
[21:04] <Pici> alejandro : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[21:04] <hwilde> dajhorn, is there a way to tell it --force-yes and go ahead and try to fix stuff, then always boot?
[21:05] <dajhorn> hwilde: Look at the /etc/init/mountall.conf file.  Why do you want to do this?
[21:05] <rickard_1975>  Suddenly I can´t ping outside lan from my server..   I have set the correct gateway in /etc/network/interfacec...    this is the output from the route command.. http://pastebin.com/KZemCuMX   plz take a look :)
[21:05]  * L-Strife89 looks around once more to see if he can get Compiz working at all on his laptop.
[21:06] <arcsky> dajhorn: doesnt work
[21:06] <pfifo> how come chrome dosent offer to translate pages that are in english?
[21:06] <intrader> Anyone I am seeking gkrellm-i8k, but I can't install it in 10.10
[21:07] <dajhorn> arcsky:  Check the "PrintMotd" option in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file.
[21:07] <hwilde> dajhorn, I just explained to you, I need it to always boot.  it is a headless server install, with no person there to hit F, and no keyboard for that matter either.  if it doesn't boot and allow ssh i'm screwed
[21:08] <arcsky> dajhorn: 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-02-21 18:18 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd
[21:08] <dajhorn> hwilde: I'm pretty sure the default behavior is to run the check and automatically fix problems.  If you're getting a fsck prompt from the boot splash, then the system is probably busted.
[21:08] <hwilde> dajhorn, I ran the fsck it fixed a few things it rebooted fine
[21:09] <hwilde> dajhorn, does the tune2fs bypass moutnall.conf or do I need to hack this script too
[21:09] <dajhorn> hwilde: Are you running an old system?  ext2 filesystem maybe?
[21:09] <L-Strife89> Hmmm ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/642257
[21:09] <arcsky> dajhorn: it writes over the file /etc/motd all the time
[21:09] <hwilde> dajhorn, ext4,  10.04.2 server,  2.6.32-28 kernel.
[21:10] <dajhorn> arcsky:  Look at the /etc/update-motd.d directory.  The /etc/motd file is generated from these runparts.
[21:11] <dajhorn> hwilde: You'll need to edit the boot scripts.  If tune2fs doesn't suppress the automatic checks, then you likely have a storage problem.
[21:12] <Guest17380> hello help.
[21:12] <Guest17380> my openion is, earlier or later there will gnome 3
[21:12] <Guest17380> or unity
[21:12] <Guest17380> so i cant use gnome 2#
[21:13] <Guest17380> am i right ?
[21:13] <ayecee> Guest17380: it's even worse than that. gnome 4 will come along eventually, so you can't even use gnome 3
[21:13] <Guest17380> okay so best is switch to kde ?
[21:13] <hwilde> dajhorn, so what is the proper way to ensure that it always boots (in the face of inevitable power loss)
[21:13] <Guest17380> i think
[21:13] <hmont> hola buenas tardes
[21:14] <xangua> Guest17380: do what you like
[21:14] <ayecee> Guest17380: are you crazy? kde5 will eventually be out, so you can't use kde4.
[21:14] <xangua> !es | hmont
[21:14] <Guest17380> no but
[21:14] <Guest17380> gnome 3 / unit y i shit
[21:14] <xangua> !language | Guest17380
[21:14] <Guest17380> okay so best is switch to kde ?
[21:14] <dajhorn> hwilde: My systems that use ext4 reboot properly on powerloss.  If fsck is tripping frequently on a journaled filesystem, then you probably have a storage problem.
[21:15] <ayecee> Guest17380: no
[21:15] <m0n0> hello, I just wiped my boot disk partition table... the system is still running. But I won't reboot until it is restored ;)
[21:15] <arcsky> dajhorn: it doesnt work :/
[21:15] <m0n0> can anybody help with that?
[21:15] <Guest17380> ayecee why
[21:15] <ayecee> Guest17380: because it's a silly question and should be taken out and shot.
[21:15] <dajhorn> arcsky: Did you check that setting in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?  If you changed it, then you need to restart the ssh daemon.
[21:15] <Guest17380> i want OLD gnome 2 look
[21:16] <Guest17380> but i cant get them ,can i
[21:16] <Vizzl3>                               dd zero
[21:16] <ayecee> m0n0: I once used a program called gpart (guess partition) to fix that.
[21:16] <pfifo> msg nickserv id qwerty
[21:16] <ayecee> m0n0: not to be confused with gparted
[21:16] <ayecee> Guest17380: who's going to stop you?
[21:16] <Guest17380> later
[21:16] <dajhorn> pfifo: You should change your password now.
[21:16] <m0n0> ayecee: I used gparted to wipe the partition table of the wrong disk.
[21:16] <Guest17380> THERE wont be gnome 2 again
[21:16] <Guest17380> and gnome 3 / unit y is shit
[21:16] <Vizzl3> dparted? pretty good movie
[21:16] <m0n0> ayecee: thank you
[21:17] <m0n0> will try it
[21:17] <pfifo> dajhorn, ill stick with it its easy to remember
[21:17]  * dajhorn lulz
[21:18] <prog> ns identify prog pfifo
[21:18] <prog> oups
[21:18] <prog> /
[21:19] <ooxi> if you can merge two objects, are they mergable or mergeable (with or without e)
[21:20] <arcsky> dajhorn: can i delete all files in /etc/update-motd.d/ ?
[21:20] <ayecee> ooxi: with the e
[21:20] <dajhorn> arcsky: Dunno.  I've never tried.
[21:21] <Guest17380> okay so best is switch to kde ?
[21:21] <ooxi> ayecee, thanks
[21:21] <iceroot> Guest17380: we dont know, test it
[21:21] <Guest17380> i meant:
[21:22] <Guest17380> gnome 2 isnt there anymore
[21:22] <Guest17380> in one year or so
[21:22] <Guest17380> right ??
[21:22] <pfifo> is gnome3 backwrds compatable with gnome2 apps/configs/misc
[21:23] <iceroot> Guest17380: kde 3.5 is there no more too and? people use kde 4 (all said kde4 is not good before)
[21:23] <Guest17380> yes but
[21:23] <Superstar> In ifconfig, how do I reset the counters for errors, dropped,  overruns etc on an ethernet interface? I've tried down then up with no avail. Any ideas?
[21:23] <Guest17380> kde 4 is good, gnome 3 not
[21:23] <iceroot> Guest17380: the same with gnome2 / 3
[21:23] <iceroot> Guest17380: then use kde4
[21:23] <Guest17380> ok thanks
[21:23] <Guest17380> <3 iceroot
[21:23] <prog> pfifo: no, it's a revolution. you've got to purchase everything again.
[21:23] <iceroot> Guest17380: but in one or two years there is no x-server anymore
[21:23] <Guest17380> wayland i think ??
[21:24] <Polah> iceroot: What will there be?
[21:24] <iceroot> Guest17380: correct
[21:24] <ayecee> ah right, it's just going to be gtk rendering onto a framebuffer.
[21:24] <Guest17380> okay but i think at least 2 years
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[21:24] <Guest17380> i hope 12.04 not having wayland
[21:24] <Guest17380> so it i  LTS
[21:24] <iceroot> Guest17380: yes, now you should be fine with kubuntu-desktop 10.10 or 10.04 if you like lts
[21:24] <Guest17380> 11.04 ;) but no matter thank you
[21:24] <Guest17380> installed  today, looks good
[21:25] <Galvatron> Guest17380: Don't rush with switching to 11.04, unless it has something you really need.
[21:25] <Guest17380> ok
[21:25] <Guest17380> iceroot: uehm , i just saw, 10.04 has got support until the 2013
[21:26] <Guest17380> so i think (ubuntu, gnome 10.04), as well as good kde ?
[21:26] <ArmyMan007> hello? anybody home?
[21:26] <Guest17380> ArmyMan007,
[21:26] <Guest17380> !ask
[21:26] <Guest17380> iceroot: uehm , i just saw, 10.04 has got support until the 2013, so i think (ubuntu, gnome 10.04), as well as good kde, or not ?
[21:27] <Galvatron> Guest17380: I'm staying with 10.10, until 11.04 matures
[21:27] <arcsky> dajhorn: now it works but it print out the messages 2 times
[21:27] <Guest17380> okay Galvatron
[21:27] <Guest17380> gnome galvatron
[21:27] <Guest17380> ?
[21:27] <Guest17380> Galvatron: Gnome ?
[21:27] <Galvatron> Heavily modified GNOME 2.3
[21:27] <Guest17380> ok
[21:27] <dajhorn> arcsky: Try turning off the sshd flag and restarting the sshd daemon.  This means that you
[21:28] <Galvatron> A 50/50 hybrid of Windows 7 and OSX, based on Compiz
[21:28] <Guest17380> ok
[21:28] <Guest17380> iceroot ?
[21:28] <dajhorn> arcsky: are getting the motd from both ssh and the PAM configuration.
[21:28] <Guest17380> Galvatron: i have got green hard drive, is that bad ??
[21:28] <Adis34> How do i update my graphic card driver
[21:28] <Galvatron> Adis34: What card is it?
[21:28] <Guest17380> Galvatron: i have got green hard drive, is that bad ??
[21:28] <hwilde> Adis34, famous last words right there.
[21:29] <Galvatron> Guest17380: What do U mean by "green"?
[21:29] <Guest17380> 5400 rpms
[21:29] <Guest17380> WD ears 1 tb
[21:29] <Planet_EN> how do I make bluetooth work? tried the official tutorial, and doesn't work at all.. I'm using Toshiba Satellite
[21:29] <Galvatron> No, why?
[21:29] <Guest17380> okay already thought they are slowly
[21:29] <Adis34> ATI Mobility Radeon 3470
[21:30] <evil_grin> should I install 10.10 or 11.04??
[21:30] <Guest17380> 10.10
[21:30] <iceroot> Guest17380: yes, natty will only have until oct 2012, so 10.04 will give you a longer support
[21:30] <iceroot> gpg --fingerprint  is not showing any output? is that normal? are further steps needed?
[21:30] <Guest17380> ok, iceroot, is 5400 upm hardrive ?
[21:31] <Galvatron> Adis34: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:31] <iceroot> Guest17380: what?
[21:31] <Guest17380> 5400 rpms hard disk
[21:31] <WaltherFI> Ubuntu support for i7 2600K 8 threads?
[21:31] <Guest17380> it make 5400 rounds per minute, green harddrive
[21:31] <Galvatron> Adis34: It might be advisable to download the latest ones frm AMD website and ignore those in repo
[21:31] <Guest17380> @waltherFi: ubuntu 10.10
[21:31] <Proxypoke> In case anyone is interested, I solved my problem from a few minutes ago. I managed to run mplayer remotely on the remote machine using "mplayer -display :0.0 -slave -input file=~/mplayer-control filetoplayhere" :)
[21:32] <shield> Guest17380: That is a slow hhd, but not bad.
[21:32] <Superstar> Can someone talk me through to installing gnome shell extensions please?
[21:32] <Planet_EN>  how do I make bluetooth work? tried the official tutorial, and doesn't work at all.. I'm using Toshiba Satellite
[21:32] <rypervenche> How can I remove one of the languages from my login screen? I have 2 "English (U.S.)" and 2 "Chinese (Taiwan)". One of the versions is creating problems. How can I refresh this list?
[21:32] <Planet_EN> Superstar: what are shell extensions?
[21:32] <iceroot> Superstar: #gnome
[21:32] <Galvatron> evil_grin: 11.04 is beta, and as such might have	 issues. If I were you, I would wait for some weeks after release, so people will find errors.
[21:33] <iceroot> Superstar: gnome-shell is not used in ubuntu
[21:33] <Guest17380> shield: what would be better
[21:33] <Superstar> planet_en, iceroot: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/gnome-shell-extensions-additional.html
[21:33] <Galvatron> WaltherFI: This not Ubuntu but the applications that must support multi-threading
[21:34] <iceroot> Superstar: as i said
[21:34] <shield> Guest17380: For a normal speed drive you would want to look for at least 7200rpm mechanical drive, but you can go all the way to 10K rpm drive.  If you want super fast look for a solid state drive.
[21:34] <Guest17380> normally SSD , but dont have 3,5...
[21:34] <Guest17380> 2,5 i meant
[21:34] <jndlsnl> hi, My mic is not working i m using ubuntu 10.4 on my laptop acer aspire 4930
[21:34] <KeyLimePi> Anyone know a way to track down the child PIDs which are causing a segmentation fault?
[21:34] <Galvatron> WaltherFI: The system will not automagically make a single-threaded app into multi-threaded one.;)
[21:35] <WaltherFI> Galvatron: I know that multithreading is all about software, but will ubuntu recognise the 8
[21:35] <Planet_EN> BLUETOOTH
[21:35] <Planet_EN> someone?
[21:35] <Daekdroom> WaltherFI, yes
[21:35] <Superstar> iceroot ok thanks
[21:35] <WaltherFI> Galvatron: i'm not a complete noob you see
[21:35] <WaltherFI> thanks :)
[21:35] <Guest17380> shield
[21:35] <Guest17380> normally SSD , but dont have 2,5...
[21:35] <shield> Guest17380: What size are you looking to replace a normal laptop dive 2.5 or normal tower drive 3.5?
[21:35] <iceroot> KeyLimePi: pstree
[21:35] <Guest17380> yes
[21:35] <Adis34> what application am i supposed to use for  a .run
[21:35] <Guest17380> 3,5
[21:36] <WaltherFI> i'm considering buying one, 8 threads @5GHz sounds lovely for photo editing and exporting
[21:36] <guntbert> !who | Guest17380
[21:36] <Galvatron> WaltherFI: Should with no problem, as Linux is originally a server/cluster/supercomputer OS
[21:36] <Guest17380> 3,5 @shield
[21:36] <ayecee> Adis34: none, just mark it executable with chmod +x and run it
[21:36] <Galvatron> WaltherFI: So multi-core/thread is it's natural enviroment
[21:36] <KeyLimePi> thanks iceroot. I need to see them by PID number though.  Im getting a segmentation fault in my apache error logs and Im trying to suss what program/process/module corresponds to those PIDs
[21:36] <Guest17380> 3,5 @shield
[21:37] <jndlsnl>  hi, My mic is not working i m using ubuntu 10.4 on my laptop acer aspire 4930
[21:37] <WaltherFI> Galvatron: just wanted to be sure, 300eur cpu without proper support would make me... nuts
[21:37] <Guest17380> 3,5 @shield
[21:37] <ayecee> jndlsnl: sometime it helps to rephrase your question if you don't get a response.
[21:38] <shield> Guest17380: newegg has one 3.5 SSD HDD that isnt too badly priced just a little over $200.00 US http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227590
[21:38] <guntbert> Guest17380: talk about buing a HD/SSD is not ubuntu support - please take it elsewhere
[21:39] <jndlsnl> My internal mic is not working.
[21:39] <guntbert> Planet_EN: what doesn't work?
[21:39] <KeyLimePi> how do you suss out a child pid listed in error.log if that pid does not show up in top?
[21:39] <iceroot> KeyLimePi: ps aux | grep PID
[21:40] <Planet_EN> guntbert: bluetooth wont activate, its turned off.. my best guess is that default driver is conflicting with device which is why service never responds
[21:40] <Planet_EN> or works
[21:41] <Adis34> I still don't know how to open a .run
[21:41] <KeyLimePi> iceroot: alright, so I assume that the new pid given is the "parent" pid?
[21:41] <ayecee> Adis34: did you see what I said earlier?
[21:41] <iceroot> Adis34: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run   that is what i would do
[21:41] <guntbert> Planet_EN: are you using the default kernel?
[21:42] <jndlsnl> My Microphone is not working in ubuntu 10.4
[21:42] <Planet_EN> guntbert: i'm using generic one..
[21:44] <Adis34> iceroot: so what would the command look like if this was the file name, ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run
[21:44] <Adis34> because i have no clue what im doing
[21:44] <iljo> hello
[21:45] <Adom> is there any bad side to doing "sudo apt-get autoremove -y"?
[21:45] <MaRk-I> Adis34: chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run
[21:45] <rickard_1975>  Suddenly I can´t ping outside lan from my server..   I have set the correct gateway in /etc/network/interfacec...    this is the output from the route command.. http://pastebin.com/KZemCuMX   plz take a look :)
[21:45] <iljo> i am running ubuntu 10.10, and i have a problem with WiFi, if i update the kernel to 2.6.35-28... i have -22 currently, my chipset is Broadcom bcm4312 rev01.
[21:46] <iljo> i have been all over the forums, and no solution seemed to work
[21:46] <MaRk-I> Adis34: then:  ./ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run
[21:46] <dajhorn> Adom: This is usually safe if you installed everything from the Ubuntu repos.
[21:46] <guntbert> Planet_EN: I'm searching...
[21:46] <Adom> dajhorn: i do. thx
[21:46] <Guest17380> hello
[21:46] <Planet_EN> guntbert: thanks
[21:46] <Guest17380> i need help
[21:47] <WaltherFI> !ask |Guest17380
[21:47] <Adis34> it says chmod: cannot access `/ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run': No such file or directory
[21:47] <rhizmoe> i doubt that file is in your root
[21:48] <Guest17380> my question is: somebodyhere, help me ?
[21:48] <pfifo> !info info
[21:48] <pfifo> so by "is standard" it means it gets installed during a regular install?
[21:48] <jndlsnl> my mic is not working....can anyone help me out about this?
[21:48] <WaltherFI> Guest17380: what's your problem?
[21:48] <dajhorn> rickard_1975: Pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces file.  Did you do something intentionally to set the metric on the default gateway to 100?
[21:48] <Planet_EN> guntbert: I tried the USB Bluetooth adapter as well, that doesn't work either..
[21:49] <MaRk-I> Adis34: are you in the same directory/folder as the file?  remove the slash
[21:49] <Guest17380> i want to know which hard drive disk
[21:49] <guntbert> Planet_EN: for starters: please !pastebin the output of lsmod | grep bt
[21:49] <Adis34> wait so where do I put that command?
[21:49] <dajhorn> rickard_1975: Also try a `traceroute` or `tracepath` command to an external host.
[21:49] <WaltherFI> Guest17380: which hard drive, what?
[21:49] <Guest17380> yes
[21:49] <Guest17380> !!
[21:49] <MaRk-I> Adis34: in the same directory/folder where that file is
[21:50] <jndlsnl> how can i recover grub boot loader after installing windows?
[21:50] <Adis34> what do you mean?
[21:50] <rhizmoe> Guest17380: what's your question?
[21:50] <Adis34> am i supposed to go in terminal
[21:50] <Guest17380> i want to know which hard drive disk
[21:50] <rhizmoe> Guest17380: what's your question?
[21:50] <Guest17380> !repeat | rhizmoe
[21:51] <guntbert> Guest17380: I told you before: that is off topic here, don't insist
[21:51] <rhizmoe> twarn't a question :)
[21:51] <ArmyMan007> hello! can anyone help me?
[21:52] <Planet_EN> guntbert: there's nothing on lsmod, when I do 'sudo service bluetooth start' it shows no warning or error but checking status says bluetooth is not running
[21:52] <Adis34> Markl: Thanks I got it
[21:52] <MaRk-I> Adis34: yw
[21:52] <shield> Planet_EN: are you using a laptop by chance?
[21:52] <ArmyMan007> well I'll just go with my question then
[21:52] <rhizmoe> that's a good start
[21:52] <guntbert> Planet_EN: strange, then please try lsmo |grep blu
[21:53] <Noor_egy> hello i want to convert my pdf file to word any one know application for that on ubuntu ?
[21:53] <blz> I'm trying to install the RSS plugin for ruTorrent.  on the ruTorrent wiki, it says that you must start plugins with rtorrent in order for this to work, and they give the following line to add to .rtorrent.rc:  execute = {sh,-c,/usr/bin/php /var/www/rutorrent/php/initplugins.php tom &}.   My question is this:  assuming "tom" is the username, what's the format for web authentication?   tom:password?
[21:53] <ArmyMan007> does anyone know a music player that can play multilingual songs with different Unicode?
[21:53] <blz> or "tom password" maybe?
[21:53] <elmalty>  i have a question about the VPN in linux Ubuntu
[21:53] <Noor_egy> hello i want to convert my pdf file to word any one know application for that on ubuntu ?
[21:53] <guntbert> shield: he is on a toshiba satellite
[21:53] <blz> !ask|elmalty
[21:53] <Planet_EN> shield: Yes I am.. a Toshiba Satellite
[21:54] <blz> Noor_egy:  i belive there are webapps for that
[21:54] <ArmyMan007> does anyone know a music player that can play multilingual songs with different Unicode?
[21:54] <rhizmoe> Noor_egy: http://www.google.com/search?q=pdf+doc+linux
[21:54] <Noor_egy> blz : i tried it but it didnt gives me good result
[21:54] <Adis34> The other day my computer froze, so I shut it down manually, then my Windows would not boot, system restore wouldnt boot, safe mode
[21:54] <Planet_EN> guntbert: tried thatt too, plus doing a grep b or grep bl returns blowfish..
[21:54] <guntbert> jndlsnl: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:54] <Adis34> safe mode wouldnt boot
[21:54] <elmalty>  VPN in linux Ubuntu
[21:55] <DJones> Noor_egy: You could try Calibre, I don't know if its got a direct to .doc converter, but there should be something that could be an intermediary
[21:55] <elmalty> the issue is i want to connect to my work network , with windows i can connect with th nortal vpn
[21:55] <shield> Planet_EN: this might be a stupid question does it happen to have a switch on the right side of the laptop?
[21:55] <ArmyMan007> multilingual songs
[21:55] <ayecee> elmalty: what happens when you try in linux?
[21:55] <guntbert> Planet_EN: then there is something really wrong™ :-(
[21:56] <elmalty> do not any thing related to the RSA Token to connect
[21:56] <ArmyMan007> seriously please help me out...
[21:56] <elmalty> in windows i use a Nortal Vpn
[21:56] <jndlsnl> mic is not working in my laptop under ubuntu
[21:56] <blz> patience|ArmyMan007
[21:56] <Planet_EN> shield: nope, I used it on windows, this laptop originally came with window-7 on it and it has no button for bluetooth
[21:56] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: surely the language matters not, its the format thats important
[21:56] <ayecee> elmalty: could it be nortel, not nortal?
[21:56] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: the format itself is all MP3
[21:56] <shield> Planet_EN: Just wanted to check.
[21:57] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: then yes, you can play them
[21:57] <elmalty> sorry nortal
[21:57] <ThinkT510> !mp3 | ArmyMan007
[21:57] <elmalty> in nortal i but a user name and then a passcode
[21:57] <ayecee> elmalty: nortal? okay. I've never heard of nortal, sorry. I've heard of nortel, though.
[21:57] <elmalty> from the RSA Secure id token
[21:58] <QuiSE> Im so awesome :) I just figure out a fix for the "left mouse button not working"
[21:58] <elmalty> ok do you know the RSA Secure id token
[21:58] <ayecee> elmalty: yes
[21:58] <elmalty> cool
[21:58] <QuiSE> Just wanted to dump the fix, so listen up +0 +v /everyone else
[21:58] <Planet_EN> guntbert: shield: its Toshiba Satellite L500-1GK
[21:58] <blz> I'm trying to install the RSS plugin for ruTorrent.  on the ruTorrent wiki, it says that you must start plugins with rtorrent in order for this to work, and they give the following line to add to .rtorrent.rc:  execute = {sh,-c,/usr/bin/php /var/www/rutorrent/php/initplugins.php tom &}.   My question is this:  assuming "tom" is the username, how to I specify the web password?
[21:58] <elmalty> now i have it how i can use it in linux
[21:58] <jndlsnl> no one know about mic to how to solve it?
[21:58] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510 -> unfortunately i can't: i tried to play mp3's with a hebrew title and audio tag on rhythmbox music player but it just quits... so does realplayer for linux
[21:58] <QuiSE> Ubuntu 10.10 - make a new account, set it to administrator. and relog into it. Bam no more problem
[21:59] <ayecee> elmalty: a quick search says there's no vpn client that supports rsa token authentication.
[21:59] <ThinkT510> !codecs | ArmyMan007
[21:59] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: you need the right codecs installed
[21:59] <ArmyMan007> will check it out
[22:00] <karlhunt> hi what is the channel for 11.04 beta?
[22:00] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510 -> thanks... will check it out... happy passover everyone!
[22:00] <Planet_EN> oh and a quick question, can we get rid of sudo altogether? my usergroup is admin as well as root
[22:00] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | karlhunt
[22:00] <ap0c> anyone know why DDR locks up ubuntu 10.10
[22:00] <ap0c> ?
[22:00] <karlhunt> join #ubuntu+1
[22:00] <elmalty> ok , keep it in you mind .. maybe you will find a solution for this issue ,
[22:01] <epaphus> Hello all, Whats the easiest way to copy mp3 files from an audio cd?
[22:01] <elmalty> now if i want to connect i have to use windows.........
[22:01] <blz> epaphus:  have you tried googling this?  there are literally dozens of ways to do it
[22:01] <ayecee> elmalty: it looks that way :(
[22:01] <Planet_EN> epaphus: I don't think they've mp3 files in audio CD
[22:01] <ThinkT510> !rip | epaphus
[22:01] <blz> also, what Planet_EN said
[22:01] <epaphus> blz which is why i asked the easiest way :P
[22:02] <blz> epaphus:  right, and there's never an answer to that
[22:02] <rypervenche> How can I remove one of the languages from my login screen? I have 2 "English (U.S.)" and 2 "Chinese (Taiwan)". One of the versions is creating problems. How can I refresh this list?
[22:02] <blz> epaphus:  i'd google the question and read around.  there are a bunch of easy ways
[22:02] <ThinkT510> !google | blz
[22:02] <Planet_EN> Can we get rid of sudo, someone?
[22:03] <blz> the command?
[22:03] <blz> or is there a guy named sudo here?
[22:03] <WaltherFI> sjm:
[22:03] <WaltherFI> oops
[22:03] <WaltherFI> disregard that
[22:03] <guntbert> Planet_EN: sorry, nothing to be found. what does lsusb tell? does it show the bluetooth adapter?
[22:04] <elmalty> i can access the other machine with a ssh ..
[22:04] <Planet_EN> blz: yes, see I'm the admin and root so can we just skip the sudo command somehow?
[22:04] <guntbert> Planet_EN: keep using it
[22:04] <gumus> ı got this error while trying to initialize my ipod ... " iPod was not initialized: failed to write SysInfo file to iPod, make sure you have write permissions on the iPod"
[22:04] <elmalty> ok , need to access it remotely with my gnome desktop
[22:04] <gumus> does anyone have any idea ?
[22:04] <guntbert> and Planet_EN: don't work as root
[22:04] <blz> Planet_EN:  log in as root on the terminal:  sudo -i
[22:04] <ThinkT510> !root
[22:05] <gumus> amarok  is unable to recognize my ipod
[22:05] <sjm> Planet_EN, if you are the admin and root, then you should know what the implications are and also how to get around the sudo command.
[22:05] <blz> also if you're root, you don't need sudo... I'm honestly not quite sure what you're asking, Planet_EN
[22:06] <Planet_EN> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595689/
[22:06] <intrader> Anyone, I have not seen any action on solving a problem I have with my fans continuously running since installing 10.10 - The computer is a Dell Inspirong 8200.
[22:06] <Planet_EN> guntbert: Don't think it identifies the adapter at all..
[22:08] <guntbert> Planet_EN: what are the other "unknown" devices? dexon, apple, chicony?
[22:09] <Planet_EN> guntbert: Dexon and Chicony not sure but Apple is the iPhone
[22:09] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys i need some help sshing to my server with x11 i cant seem to get it working via a windows machine using putty and already forwarding x11
[22:09] <Planet_EN> guntbert: Chicony is the webcam, got it
[22:09] <fsufitch> hey, i started my netbook with ubuntu maverick on it today, and my root filesystem refuses to mount (even from a live boot). any way to recover this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[22:09] <fr00g> Does anyone know how I can customize Midori's navbar?
[22:09] <guntbert> Planet_EN: use lsusb -v to identify them
[22:10] <KeyLimePi> anyone know the best way to determine a child pid's process name?
[22:12] <KeyLimePi> join #apache
[22:15] <r4ykid> hey guys. I am trying to install the netbook version of ubuntu, but the laptop i want to install on cant boot from usb. Is there a solution?
[22:16] <ayecee> r4ykid: what else can it boot from?
[22:16] <blz> r4ykid what kind of netbook can't boot from USB?
[22:16] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: sorry... read everything and still nothing helps
[22:16] <r4ykid> ayecee, cd i guess. Can i copy the image to cd? or can i burn a cd that CAN boot from usb?
[22:17] <ayecee> r4ykid: it can boot from cd? isn't there an ubuntu netbook cd image?
[22:17] <r4ykid> ayecee, i dont know? Where would i look for it? the default one is usb.
[22:18] <ayecee> huh. there isn't.
[22:18] <QuiSE> Trying to install Additinal Drivers (My ATI-card) getting this: SystemError: InstallArchives() Failed
[22:18] <fsufitch> hey, i started my netbook with ubuntu maverick on it today, and my root filesystem refuses to mount (even from a live boot). any way to recover this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[22:18] <QuiSE> running Ubuntu 10.10 - fresh installed
[22:18] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: tried this from a terminal?: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:18] <jicooo> hey all, my auth.log file is empty and my server logs everything instead to auth.log.1, is this normal? same with syslog (i'm running 10.04)
[22:18] <ayecee> r4ykid: wait, there is. the file you download, it's an .iso file, right?
[22:18] <r4ykid> ayecee, yes it is. But can i just burn this to cd?
[22:19] <blz> r4ykid, yes
[22:19] <Milos_SD> Hi
[22:19] <ayecee> r4ykid: yes, but burn it as an image, not as a file
[22:19] <blz> that's the point of an .iso
[22:19] <iljo> hello
[22:19] <iljo> i am running ubuntu 10.10, and i have a problem with WiFi, if i update the kernel to 2.6.35-28... i have -22 currently, my chipset is Broadcom bcm4312 rev01.
[22:19] <iljo> i have been all over the forums, and no solution seemed to work
[22:19] <r4ykid> ayecee, i know how it works but i had trouble in the past
[22:19] <r4ykid> CD images wouldnt work on dvds etc
[22:19] <Milos_SD> Is anyone using Ubuntu on the first Asus Eee netbook with 4GB SSD?
[22:19] <ayecee> r4ykid: weird. they should work on dvds without a problem.
[22:19] <ayecee> Milos_SD: any particular reason you're asking?
[22:20] <r4ykid> ayecee, well i hope i have a cd lying around. thank you
[22:20] <Milos_SD> ayecee, I need to install it on that one tomorow :)
[22:20] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: ": Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:20] <ArmyMan007> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[22:20] <Milos_SD> And I never used a netbook, and don't know what version of ubuntu to install to it...
[22:20] <QuiSE> Trying to install Additinal Drivers (My ATI-card) :: getting this: SystemError: InstallArchives() Failed
[22:21] <ayecee> Milos_SD: either the netbook or desktop version should be fine.
[22:21] <Milos_SD> can normal version be used? will there be a lack of space on an ssd?
[22:21] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: thats odd, maybe somebody here can help you
[22:21] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: but I thought YOU can help me... :'(
[22:21] <ayecee> Milos_SD: the default install should go without a hitch, but yeah, that will not be much space to work with.
[22:21] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007,
[22:21] <Milos_SD> ayecee, can Natty with Unity3D work on it?
[22:22] <ayecee> Milos_SD: natty questions in #ubuntu+1
[22:22] <lgbr> what's upstart's equivalent of /etc/init.d, where I can see the startup scripts for various daemons
[22:22] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: thats never happened to me so i wouldnt know how to troubleshoot it
[22:22] <ayecee> Milos_SD: but, probably not 3d.
[22:23] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: well tough luck for me... i've tried all the forums and FA
[22:23] <Milos_SD> is there Unity2D for Maverick?
[22:23] <ArmyMan007> ThinkT510: well tough luck for me... i've tried all the forums and FAQ's out there
[22:23] <ayecee> Milos_SD: not in the official repositories, no.
[22:23] <Milos_SD> if there is, I'll create a custom install USB with that from vbox :)
[22:23] <zhiezcha> lklkl
[22:23] <Milos_SD> remove all not essential packages (gnome2 session)...
[22:24] <ThinkT510> ArmyMan007: theres more expert people here than i am, perhaps they know how to help, ask the channel
[22:24] <ayecee> Milos_SD: oh, wait, 10.10 netbook uses unity by default.
[22:24] <vacho> hello guys
[22:24] <vacho> what's a good IDE for UBUNTU?
[22:24] <ayecee> vacho: eclipse
[22:24] <vacho> eclipse: for PHP
[22:24] <Milos_SD> ayecee, yes, but that is the old one... it is very slow as I hear :)
[22:24] <Milos_SD> vacho, try Netbeans for PHP... :)
[22:25] <ArmyMan007> CALLING ALL CHANNEL!!! is there anyone out here who can help me with multilingual music playing error?
[22:25] <vacho> I want something with built in FTP support
[22:25] <ayecee> ArmyMan007: what is the error?
[22:25] <Milos_SD> vacho, Netbeans have FTP support
[22:25] <TheBuntu> i have gconf-editor open...when do i go to remove icons from the desktop ??
[22:25] <Milos_SD> It is much faster then Eclipse
[22:26] <vacho> trying netbeans
[22:26] <ArmyMan007> ayecee: trying to play hebrew songs with an MP3 format on rhythmbox music player, but doesn't want to. quits the program. so does realplayer 11 for linux
[22:27] <ayecee> ArmyMan007: is it gagging on the filename or the contents? If you rename it to test.mp3, does it play?
[22:27] <ArmyMan007> ayecee: let me check it
[22:28] <kermit> i patched my kernel to get my Alps touchpad recognized as more than a ps/2 mouse, and I see it in preferences/pointing devices, but i still have no mousewheel emulation..  disabling it doesnt disable it so i think its confused.
[22:28] <Cody3290> Hello everyone
[22:28] <arcsky> hello if i want to make an alias for all users, where to make that?
[22:29] <Cody3290> What driver does ubuntu ship with for wireless?
[22:29] <ayecee> arcsky: maybe /etc/profile
[22:29] <ayecee> arcsky: or a new file in /etc/profile.d
[22:29] <TheBuntu> i have gconf-editor open...when do i go to remove icons from the desktop ??
[22:29] <arcsky> ayecee: thanks
[22:29] <burntoto> anyone here using the magic trackpad?
[22:29] <ayecee> Cody3290: different drivers for different wireless hardware
[22:30] <tjiggi_fo> Cody3290, it ships with hundreds
[22:30] <ArmyMan007> ayecee: it's funny... i tried to play a song with a hebrew title and idtag as an individual and it worked. when i tried to add multiple songs it just quits
[22:30] <Cody3290> I have Atheros 5001x, which would it be using?
[22:30] <Cody3290> AR5001x, sorry
[22:31] <DemoOn> how can i make ssh keys for localhost, i tried but i still need to input password
[22:31] <DemoOn> ?
[22:31] <ayecee> Cody3290: pci or usb?
[22:31] <QuiSE> ArmyMan007:  perhaps its the sing-stacking process that doesnt support hewbre
[22:31] <Cody3290> pci
[22:31] <TheBuntu> how do i remove the harddrive icons from the desktop
[22:31] <QuiSE> song*
[22:32] <ayecee> Cody3290: what is the pci id? you can find it in the output of "lspci -nn", it'll look like xxxx:xxxx
[22:32] <Cody3290> ayecee: Am I supposed to get a block of text when i run that?
[22:32] <ayecee> Cody3290: yes
[22:32] <karlhunt> TheBuntu, gconfeditor has the option to not show mounted devices on the desktop
[22:32] <ArmyMan007> QuiSE: but it doesn't explain why it doesn't work on realplayer which should support this... it's a bug way back from 7.04, thought it should be fixed by now...
[22:33] <Cody3290> ayecee: 168c:001c
[22:33] <QuiSE> ArmyMan007:  sounds strange,  sorry cant help. I just know some c++ and know some common mistakes.
[22:34] <ayecee> Cody3290: looks like the driver is named ath5k
[22:34] <ArmyMan007> QuiSE: well at least you try... but it doesn't seem as if i can get an answer to it
[22:34] <QuiSE> ArmyMan007: what happens if you change the titles? does it work ?
[22:34] <Cody3290> ayecee: Alright, thank you.
[22:35] <tjiggi_fo> Cody3290, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309072
[22:35] <TheBuntu> karlhunt, where at in gconf...i been looking
[22:35] <karlhunt> TheBuntu, hang on ill check
[22:35] <jiffe98> is there a way for ubuntu to recognize a pci device addition like adding a NIC on the fly without rebooting?
[22:35] <ArmyMan007> QuiSE: it works the same as if i'm working it as an individual, but i can't start changing all the names to english titles...
[22:35] <rafii> \q
[22:35] <rafii> \quit
[22:35] <ayecee> jiffe98: yes, but it requires a motherboard that supports hotswap pci.
[22:35] <bloops> i built g++ 4.6.0 on maverick and used checkinstall to create a deb, is anybody interested in testing it?
[22:36] <QuiSE> ArmyMan007: write a script containing google translate :)
[22:36] <ayecee> jiffe98: that's rare outside of high-end server.
[22:36] <jiffe98> ayecee: I'm using vmware which lets me add nics I just need to find a way to get ubuntu to find it
[22:36] <ayecee> jiffe98: ah. I have no idea how that would work.
[22:36] <QuiSE> ArmyMan007:  or... if your really lucky you and try to put a A or 1 infront of the hewbre name perhaps.
[22:36] <ArmyMan007> QuiSE: thanks, but no thanks... i guess i should move to the linux channel maybe they can help me there..
[22:38] <giiker> Whenever i click the mail button on the indicator applet in Gnome, it always opens up Evolution, is there any way o change the email client to thunderbird?
[22:38] <Cody3290> tjiggi_fo: I have maverick meerkat, but that's besides the point. ath5k is apparnetly made by the same developers as madwifi, and they're devoting more time/energy to ath5k than madwifi, seeing as how madwifi hasn't been updated since 2.6.25
[22:38] <MC8> Howdy, I'm running GNOME on 10.10, and it's been saying "Launching KNOtify" in the bottom corner ever since I turned my computer on, and it's slowing my whole system down. Is there a way to cancel the launch (that looks like it's no longer responding/has crashed)?
[22:38] <Cody3290> thank you though
[22:39] <tjiggi_fo> Cody3290, np
[22:39] <karlhunt> TheBuntu, gconf-editor > apps > nautilus > desktop > volumes visable
[22:39] <QuiSE> Whay the h*ck ..
[22:39] <QuiSE> getting: SystemError: installArchives() failed on everything I try to install
[22:39] <vacho> netbeans is stupid.. it's fetching my remote files.
[22:39] <karlhunt> TheBuntu, if you can't find something in gconf-editor there is a search function under edit,
[22:40] <blz> is there some sort of app that can parse the filenames of media files (along with metadata), scrape for information, and then rename the file accordingly?  Something like TheRenamer for windows?
[22:40] <toad__> does flash 10 work in linux?
[22:40] <toad__> I get an error
[22:40] <toad__> when trying to instal
[22:40] <blz> toad__ how are you installing?
[22:40] <QuiSE> nah .. Im going back to 10.04.2 ... 10.10 isnt very stable imo
[22:41] <ayecee> blz: I used to think that would be great, but then I realized how hilariously inconsistent the ID3 tags were too.
[22:41] <blz> ayecee:  well this is for tv shows.  i should have specified
[22:41] <ayecee> toad__: yes
[22:42] <TheBuntu> karlhunt, ok..Thanks got it.... yeah but when you dont know what your looking for...sometimes these search and seek options can be trickey...you put the wrong word..you get nothing
[22:42] <Draco_> Hi, it's me again, I managed to run ubuntu ... anyway, it doesn't see my sound card, what can I do?
[22:43] <rhizmoe> how do i get my mail notification to change color again?
[22:43] <rhizmoe> do i *have* to use evolution or something? seems like it stopped when i switched to tbird
[22:43] <karlhunt> TheBuntu, I just tried desktop found nothing then drives nothing then volumes and voila :-)
[22:43] <kourasmenos> Does anyone know how to set premium account settings to Tucan?
[22:44] <giiker> is there any way to set thunderbird as my email client in indicator applet.?
[22:44] <grendal-prime> hey is there a decient userspace nfs mounter application for gnome?
[22:45] <grendal-prime> i got these people that i need to have something so they can click on it and mount an nfs share.
[22:46] <maco> rhizmoe, giiker: http://www.techgarten.com/extensions/thunderbird/integrate-messaging-applet-thunderbird-maverick-cloudsn/
[22:46] <rhizmoe> hah, seems to be a bigger deal than i thought
[22:46]  * rhizmoe reads the precursor article
[22:47] <Adis34> I just restarted my computer and now im missing like half of my programs and files
[22:47] <Adis34> its like it rebooted into like 3 days ago
[22:47] <Adis34> i wasnt doing system restore or anything
[22:47] <giiker> exit
[22:48] <grendal-prime> Adis34, linux system?
[22:48] <pentester123> any recommendations for a quick secure vpn server?
[22:48] <Adis34> Ubuntu
[22:48] <grendal-prime> pentester123, openvpn
[22:48] <karlhunt> pentester123,  zentyal
[22:48] <karlhunt> which uses openvpn
[22:49] <vacho> Milos_SD, are u using netbeans?
[22:49] <pentester123> is zentyal free?
[22:49] <r4ykid> I have the netbook remix bootet, but all i see is a purple-ish background and the pointer, this is for 14 minutes now
[22:49] <r4ykid> what could that be?
[22:50] <karlhunt> pentester123, yes but they offer commercial support
[22:50] <Adis34> grendal: everything in my downloads folder is gone, my theme is different
[22:50] <Adis34> it basically restarted into a couple of days ago
[22:50] <karlhunt> its basically ubuntu server with a nice web ui
[22:50] <Draco_> Ubuntu doesn't see my soundcard,  it's an on board card, the mb it's a a7n8x-e deluxe
[22:50] <pentester123> karlhunt, oh i see. Im gona look it up
[22:51] <karlhunt> pentester123,  its good we have 2 running as master/ slave pdc's at work
[22:51] <pentester123> karlhunt, i have never heard of it. I always hear about openvpn but i had so much trouble getting that setup
[22:52] <karlhunt> pentester123,  zentyal is childs play
[22:52] <pentester123> karlhunt, so far it seems like what i have been looking for sometime. Downloading
[22:52] <karlhunt> pentester123,  you tell it what you want to do and it does all the backend config
[22:53] <pentester123> karlhunt, nice. well thanks for the suggestion. time to explorer!
[22:53] <karlhunt> pentester123,  but its still ubuntu server through and through and you can still get your hands dirty if you want to
[22:54] <possomcrast> i need help i did something stupid
[22:55] <vectory> i need halp, i cannot record the output of my soundcard, a.k.a. line-out or speaker output, itried ffmpeg, arecord and parec to no avail. i fear my sound settings are somehow set up wrongly
[22:56] <vectory> question being, what can i do?
[22:56] <possomcrast> i need help
[22:56] <possomcrast> i did something dumb
[22:57] <possomcrast> hello can you seeme
[22:57] <cesc> hi, I have Ubuntu installed in two machines, A and B. Is there a more or less automatic way of having the same packages installed in B as I have in A?
[22:57] <possomcrast> hello
[22:58] <possomcrast>  i need help i did something stupid
[22:58] <Cody3290> possomcrast, It might help if you tell us what it is you did
[22:58] <r4ykid> how can i find out if the netbook remix is stuck at boot? Booting of a cd
[22:58] <possomcrast> have you guys been seeing me this whole time sorry if so
[22:58] <possomcrast> well i deleted my windows partition
[22:58] <Draco_> who needs a soundcard anyway?
[22:58] <Adis34> I keep getting this error when trying to mount and force mount my hard drive
[22:58] <Adis34> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[22:58] <Adis34> Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error
[22:58] <Adis34> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[22:58] <Adis34> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware.
[22:58] <FloodBot2> Adis34: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <possomcrast> on accident
[22:59] <Cody3290> No way to get it back.
[22:59] <possomcrast> thats what i thought
[22:59] <Cody3290> None that I know of, at least.
[22:59] <possomcrast> anyway to re-install
[22:59] <possomcrast> its a laptop
[23:00] <possomcrast> i have no cd's
[23:00] <Acid190> Ok, I keep running into problems trying to get a java chat applet to load. www.spokane2600.org is the webist, and the irc tab will not load the chat applet
[23:00] <Adis34> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware.
[23:00] <Cody3290> You'll have to do a fresh install, and if you don't know how to fix the booter, you'll have to install ubuntu again over that to fix the GNOME boot thing
[23:00] <Adis34> I keep getting that error
[23:00] <Acid190> I've gone through a few different tuts, nothing is really working though
[23:00] <Cody3290> or else it won't let you boot ubuntu, it'll go straight to XP
[23:00] <possomcrast> i have windows 7
[23:01] <possomcrast> so do i just torrent it
[23:02] <possomcrast> (sorry if any of my questions are stupid)
[23:03] <possomcrast> where would i get the windows 7 file to install
[23:03] <Acid190> Anyone here for a java chat applet issue?
[23:03] <vectory> possomcrast: students get it for free
[23:03] <vectory> :)
[23:03] <Adis34> Does anyone know what this error means?
[23:03] <Adis34> 1 2 3 4Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware.
[23:04] <possomcrast> im in high school
[23:04] <Adis34> the 1234 are not in it sorry
[23:04] <Adis34> I get that error when I try to mount or force mount my hard drive
[23:04] <vectory> possomcrast: i read sth about the possibillity to restore the partition table, if u just deleted the windows partition without erasing its contents, its, in theory, possible
[23:05] <possomcrast> what would this involve
[23:05] <possomcrast> well when i try to boot my windows 7 partiton it says its empty
[23:06] <intrader> Anyone, major annoyance; the sound is driving me crazy and probably damaging by laptop.I have not seen any action on solving a problem I have with my fans continuously running since installing 10.10 - The computer is a Dell Inspirong 8200.
[23:06] <drKrane> Have you tried to repair with the disc you used to install possomcrast
[23:06] <possomcrast> i didnt install
[23:06] <possomcrast> i bought a laptop with win 7
[23:07] <galumph> Can anyone get me the name of the package with the restricted codecs?
[23:07] <galumph> Not on Ubuntu
[23:07] <rypervenche> Can someone look in their /etc/environment and /etc/default/locale and tell me if your locales end in "utf8" or "UTF-8"?
[23:07] <leeland> rypervenche UTF-8
[23:07] <drKrane> utf8 here
[23:08] <koppe> Is it possible to increase the size of a "disk" in VirtualBox (with Win7 on NTFS) over the size specified at creation?
[23:08] <possomcrast> ):
[23:09] <koppe> Alternatively, "clone" the old OS over to a larger NTFS-formatted "disk"?
[23:11] <rypervenche> leeland: Ok, thank you.
[23:11] <possomcrast> @vectory so what of this article you read
[23:11] <RichT23> hi hi, any one want to help with a video drive / xserver and vbox issue?
[23:12] <RichT23> i went and added the testing xserver repo to mu 10.10 x64 box and now when i start vbox xcrashes
[23:13] <kourasmenos> anyone using tucan for downloading?
[23:13] <RichT23> i have been looking around but am a bit lost on how to debug more, as i see nothing in dmesg
[23:14] <Adis34> Im unable to mount or force mount a certain hard disk
[23:15] <De|ta> hi all. just installed swat so i can set up sambda on my ubuntu server install - I only have Home, Status, View and Password - no shares / wizzard/ printers
[23:15] <De|ta> any ideas?
[23:16] <brightspark> How can I remove old keyboard layouts from the menu that shows up when I click my picture at the login screen?
[23:19] <alfisko> hello, sorry for offtipic, but does anyone know what is this? it should be some kind of wellknown logo, but the text is missing http://zemepis.gfxs.cz/gmvkvizy/102402.jpg
[23:19] <KeyLimePi> anyone know a way to track a segmentation fault. Its a child PID so it seems to not show up in sys monitor
[23:22] <pfifo> KeyLimePi, gdb is made for that
[23:22] <ania> forex
[23:22] <KeyLimePi> pfifo: I just get a prompt "gdb>" but I dont know what to do from there.
[23:23] <UbuntuNoob> why is my transmission torrent manager running so slowly? my max download speed seems to be under 10KiB/s for every torrent, and the same torrents download around 300KiB/s on my other windows computer with bittorrent on the same network. Also, while using transmission, i cant access the internet via any browsers
[23:23] <Adis34> How do I system restore on Ubuntu
[23:23] <Adis34> you just have to wait a few minutes
[23:23] <Adis34> it starts picking up
[23:24] <abdulkareem> hi
[23:24] <UbuntuNoob> so does bittorrent on my other computer, but that goes up tp 300kib/s where as after a long period of time like 15 minutes terminal is still at around 5 kib/s and i cant get on the internet
[23:24] <rypervenche> My gdm is showing two versions of 2 of my language choice on my login screen. I have found that $GDM_LANG shows zh_TW instead of zh_TW.utf8. How can I make gdm read my locale correctly?
[23:24] <abdulkareem> ماذا تفعلون؟
[23:24] <pfifo> KeyLimePi, gdb is pretty complicated, if you trying to debug a program you should read its user manual first... what exactly is he reason you care about a stacktrace anyway?
[23:24] <vectory> UbuntuNoob: maybe your isp is throtteling torrent traffixc
[23:24] <Acid190> need help with java chat applet
[23:25] <UbuntuNoob> vectory: i doubt it, my other computer on the same modem gets great speeds
[23:25] <KeyLimePi> pfifo: my  server runs wordpress.  It works fine overall but there is a plugin that, while  administering in wordpress' backend, will cause segmentation faults to show up in error.log.
[23:25] <UbuntuNoob> !ar | abdulkareem
[23:25] <UbuntuNoob> nope
[23:25] <UbuntuNoob> i thought ar was arabic
[23:26]  * tommylommykins waves
[23:26] <rypervenche> lol
[23:26] <UbuntuNoob> !ara
[23:26] <lolmatic> is it possible that ubuntu uses an external drive to suspend to disk? or does my wake up just not work? why the fuck?????
[23:26] <abdulkareem> :d
[23:26]  * tommylommykins has done `su -` to change to another user
[23:26] <UbuntuNoob> !arabic | abdulkareem
[23:26] <tommylommykins> I want this user to be able to play sound
[23:26] <tommylommykins> Can anyone give me hints?
[23:26] <iceroot> lolmatic: first you want to watch your language
[23:27] <pfifo> KeyLimePi, you should ask the developers of the plugin whats going on, the likelyhood of fixing a segfault on your own is slim unless your a programmer.
[23:27] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: sudo adduser <user name> sound
[23:27] <KeyLimePi> pfifo: I already did
[23:27] <KeyLimePi> pfifo: but since it was to do with the server, they can do nothing
[23:27] <abdulkareem>  /join #ubuntu-arabic
[23:28] <pfifo> KeyLimePi, they didnt even offer a suggested route to fix it?
[23:28] <tommylommykins> shcherbak: There is no sound group. I have already added the user to audio, pulse, and pulse-access
[23:28] <tommylommykins> But I still get no sound
[23:28] <tommylommykins> Do I need to create the sound group?
[23:28] <KeyLimePi> pfifo: No.  As shown in our convo: http://code.google.com/p/wordpress-custom-content-type-manager/issues/detail?id=60&can=1
[23:28] <rypervenche> My gdm is showing two versions of English, and two of Mandarin on my login screen. I have found that $GDM_LANG shows zh_TW instead of zh_TW.utf8. How can I make gdm read my locale correctly? My ibus-daemon won't work properly because of this :(
[23:29] <KeyLimePi> Again, I would try to simplify your problems and leave the plugin out of this for now: there are too many variables.  If your server is having trouble with simple scenarios, it's only going to get more difficult to spot and debug when you've got multiple variables going on in there.  If you've isolated the problems with the sessions, try serving up a static .html file and watch your apache logs.
[23:29] <KeyLimePi> thats what his final word is on it
[23:29] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: Sorry, my bad, "audio"
[23:29] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: I think reboot is required
[23:29] <ZeRGooooH> hi
[23:30] <tommylommykins> shcherbak: The user is added to audio. I get no sound :(
[23:30] <tommylommykins> shcherbak: oh, ok
[23:30] <Lcawte> Right, i'm in my firefox preferences, where do I set the path for flash videos to? Because they don't play at the monet... I have adobe flash installed
[23:30] <Superstar> What can I do to test if using my switch is faster than connecting directly to my router?
[23:30]  * tommylommykins reboots
[23:30] <ZeRGooooH> does anyone can help to hide my ip?
[23:30] <shcherbak> Superstar: ping?
[23:31] <shcherbak> ZeRGooooH: Hide, in what situation? Not sure that it is supported here...
[23:31] <Afteraffekt> Could use a mask
[23:32] <rypervenche> ZeRGooooH: Go into #freenode and ask for a mask
[23:32] <ZeRGooooH> ok
[23:32] <KeyLimePi> Again, I would try to simplify your problems and leave the plugin out of this for now: there are too many variables.  If your server is having trouble with simple scenarios, it's only going to get more difficult to spot and debug when you've got multiple variables going on in there.  If you've isolated the problems with the sessions, try serving up a static .html file and watch your apache logs.
[23:33] <Superstar> shcherbak: ping is only useful to check if a server is live. most routers and switches delay icmp echo replys when receiving multiple requests originating from the same ip
[23:33] <Superstar> i'm not familiar with linux based networking
[23:34] <tommylommykins> hmm
[23:34] <teage> how do you force a 32bit in 64bit I cant remember. Im trying to install my game and it complains wrong architecture
[23:34] <tommylommykins> Rebooting has not given me sound
[23:34] <tommylommykins> mplayer gives me this:
[23:34] <tommylommykins> AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
[23:34] <tommylommykins> Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
[23:34] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: Is it normal Ubuntu (mean gnome)?
[23:34] <tommylommykins> shcherbak: Yes
[23:35] <Ziber> I have a ubuntu desktop 8.04 disk. If I install that, how hard is it to upgrade to 10.10?
[23:35] <rypervenche> My gdm is showing two versions of English, and two of Mandarin on my login screen. I have found that $GDM_LANG shows zh_TW instead of zh_TW.utf8. How can I make gdm read my locale correctly? My ibus-daemon won't work properly because of this :(
[23:35] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: Does restarting pulseaudio show any messages?
[23:36] <tommylommykins> shcherbak: `pulseaudio -k` gives no output
[23:37] <shcherbak> Ziber: You could download Ubuntu (latest or lts) from site, get minimal to have less to download.
[23:37] <tommylommykins> oh, aha!
[23:37]  * tommylommykins has sound :D
[23:37] <Ziber> well, i have a 10.10 iso at home, but I was hoping to get ubuntu installed today...
[23:37] <UbuntuNoob> can anyone else guess why my torrents download so slow in transmission but not bittorrent on a windows computer?
[23:38] <Chubcorp> I have a question about uninstalling Ubuntu off of a dual boot computer, I don't know which partition is linux and which is Windows. The Disk Utility shows an OS 47GB NTFS a 110 GB ext4 an Extended 113 GB and a 3.0 GB Swap.
[23:38] <shcherbak> tommylommykins: try without -k, should tell you that it is running, reload via services
[23:38]  * tommylommykins has one more question: What's the name of the gnome application called by pressing alt+F2 ?
[23:39] <tommylommykins> thanks for the help with sound :)
[23:39] <shcherbak> UbuntuNoob: You could try deluge, or (text) rTorrent, etc. Transmission is not powerhorse.
[23:39] <rypervenche> tommylommykins: My system is not in English, but you can find the name in the compiz manager, under the Gnome option
[23:40] <tommylommykins> rypervenche: I have found it
[23:40] <tommylommykins> but it does not give me the name
[23:41] <Chubcorp> The extended is right over the 110 ext4, so should I uninstall the Extended, or just the 110 ext4?
[23:42] <dzinx2> %uname  -a
[23:42] <dzinx2> FreeBSD livecd 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #1: Wed Mar  9 10:34:09 AST 2011     root@ericbsd.bsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GHOSTBSD  i386
[23:42] <shcherbak> Chubcorp: First or all get M$ recovery disk, or instalator, you will need them.
[23:44] <ZeRGooooH> add mask
[23:44] <Chubcorp> shcherbak, I planned on going through a live USB and just deleting the partition, I figured out which was Ubuntu
[23:45] <Chubcorp> shcherbak, I was just wondering if I should delete the extended, which covers the 110 ext4 and the 3.0 Swap, or just the ext4.
[23:46] <eoss> anyone here know regex?
[23:46] <zvacet> Chubcorp: delete just partition with existing ubuntu and leave swap use manual way to install
[23:46] <syslq> eoss: what do you need?
[23:46] <syslq> eoss: many dialects of regex btw
[23:46] <shcherbak> Chubcorp: Thats fine, but you will need to recover MBR for windows, ask in #windows for details, liveCD method is OK to the point of removing Ubuntu.
[23:46] <eoss> href\s*=\s*[\'\"]\s*(.+?)\s*[\'\"]  works but adding question marks after the brackets dont
[23:46] <Acid190> Im sure there is someone more knowledgeable than I on what I need help with
[23:47] <eoss> ive found you can leave quotes out of the href entirely and the link still works
[23:47] <Acid190> Java chat applet issue? Help?
[23:47] <zvacet> Chubcorp: do you want to delete Ubuntu and run only windows?
[23:47] <Chubcorp> shcherbak, so your saying that if I delete the partition, it won't see windows?
[23:48] <Chubcorp> zvacet, yes, I know crazy,  but the computer is a loaner and the owner doesn't want linux on it when I give it back.
[23:48] <shcherbak> Chubcorp: No, you can convert them to NTFS, to have second in M$, but you may have trouble to boot, after you will remove grub.
[23:49] <syslq> Chubcorp: delete linux paritition boot from windows 7 recovery cd and start console run bootsect /nt60 C:\
[23:49] <syslq> Chubcorp: reboot and woilla
[23:49] <Ziber> will do-dist-upgrade get me from 8.04 (the only CD i have with me) to 10.10?
[23:49] <shcherbak> Chubcorp: Resizing partitions is considered dangerous, other tasks ultimately safe.
[23:50] <syslq> eoss: single character is . not ? in regex
[23:50] <zvacet> Chubcorp: read http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe before you delete ubuntu
[23:50] <Chubcorp> syslq, I don't have the boot disk, in fact I don't even have a disk drive.
[23:50] <eoss> syslq: im trying to say there can either be a ' or " but it doesnt have to be there
[23:51] <vacho> guys.
[23:51] <Chubcorp> zvacet, thanks I'll check it out, but as long as it doesn't show a second partition, I'll be fine, so I don't necessarily need to resize.
[23:51] <vacho> anyone using aptana?? I can't see the file menu
[23:51] <syslq> eoss: that depents on pattern you're describing \" is instructing regex to take " as ordinary character, part of a pattern
[23:52] <Ziber> will do-dist-upgrade get me from 8.04 (the only CD i have with me) to 10.10?
[23:52] <syslq> Chubcorp: you can create rescue cd from windows 7
[23:52] <zvacet> Ziber: no yo uwill just upgrade packages and you can not upgrade to 10.10 but you can upgrade to 10.04 directly
[23:52] <Ziber> and how can i get to 10.10?
[23:53] <eoss> syslq: im describing this pattern href\s*=\s*[\'\"]\s*(.+?)\s*[\'\"] and im trying to say 0 or 1 of either the single quotes or double quotes
[23:53] <zvacet> Ziber: after upgrade to 10.04 of with fresh install
[23:53] <CptAnon> Hello people, I'm looking for some knowledge.
[23:53] <Chubcorp> syslq, I have XP, and don't know a thing about windows. zvacet, the admin has restricted access to the C drive.
[23:54] <Ziber> zvacet: hm?
[23:54] <coz_> CptAnon,  what is your question?
[23:54] <dzinx2> openbsd
[23:54] <shcherbak> eoss: Do you need string between href and whitespace?
[23:54] <zvacet> Chubcorp: fix.mbr will allow you to remove ubuntu and still boot in windows
[23:55] <eoss> shcherbak: i need whats inside the quotes, if they exist or not
[23:55] <Chubcorp> zvacet, do you know of a way into the C drive from Ubuntu? then I could put fix.mbr in there from here?
[23:55] <eoss> question mark after the bracket didnt work for some reason
[23:56] <CptAnon> Ok my question is this: I'm trying to learn to program in C and I made the hello world program work but to make it work I had to cc -c and cc-o first and I don't know what that means?
[23:56] <syslq> eoss: you could try {0,1} before [\", \']
[23:56] <Ziber> CptAnon: mount it.
[23:56] <eoss> how about \'|\"?
[23:56] <Ziber> Chubcorp: *
[23:57] <coz_> CptAnon,  you might get more information in the #programming  channel :)
[23:57] <syslq> Chubcorp: you can mount ntfs just fine, but you cant run fixmbr from linux, what you can do is boot from xp install cd, choose recovery console and use fixmbr from there
[23:57] <luca__> c'è qualche italiano?
[23:57] <zvacet> Chubcorp : you should be able to read and write to ntfs from ubuntu but you will have to run fix.mbr from windows
[23:57] <CptAnon> Ziber, mount what?
[23:57] <Ziber> CptAnon: sorry, wrong person.
[23:57] <zvacet> !it | luca
[23:57] <CptAnon> ok thanks coz_
[23:57] <luca__> mi hanno bannato li
[23:57] <CptAnon> will try that
[23:57] <luca__> :(
[23:57] <luca__> senza motivo
[23:57] <fisch246> i'm trying to use rhythmbox with my iPod but i can't even mount my iPod
[23:58] <syslq> luca__: jovanotti still raps?
[23:58] <zvacet> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrade from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS
[23:59] <syslq> Chubcorp: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/483/xp_repair_fix_master_boot_record_recovery_console/
[23:59] <Chubcorp> syslq, zvacet, I planned on placing the mbrfix into C then boot into wondows and go from there, but those 3 steps would get rid of Linux and resize the partition, or just remove linux?
[23:59] <Ziber> zvacet: thanks
[23:59] <zvacet> Ziber:  after that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades