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charlie-tcaGood morning15:03
mark76Afternoon15:05
charlie-tcamr_pouit: installed 32bit yesterday, 64bit today. both alternate and desktop each day, working as far as installs.15:18
charlie-tcawill test maverick to natty upgrade today, mvo said he fixed the bug15:18
MisterJonesi did a meverick to natty upgrade and it worked fine here 64 bit 15:19
charlie-tcaMisterJones: did you check if gnome-panel installed? apt-cache policy gnome-panel15:20
MisterJonesthat i did not 15:20
charlie-tcaThat's what we are looking for now. upgrades pulling in all of gnome15:20
MisterJoneswhen i ran the upgrade i didnt see it pull gnome-panel or things of that nature 15:21
charlie-tcawhen did you run it?15:22
MisterJoneslast wednesday or thursday 15:22
charlie-tcaUnless you had xfce4-indicator-plugin installed in maverick, it pulled in gnome15:23
MisterJonesok 15:23
mr_pouitokay, glad to hear15:28
mr_pouit\o15:28
mr_pouitI fixed an annoying (security) issue in the latest thunar upload. Now you should be able to copy/move files containing '%' in their name15:29
charlie-tcaGreat15:29
charlie-tcaWant anything else tested?15:29
charlie-tcaI want to send the ss15:29
charlie-tcaI want to send the shutdown bug upstream. I saw someone in Arch saying they saw it too with Xfce 4.815:30
mr_pouitI'll upload in a few hours a fixed xfce4-power-manager (we forgot to ship one binary that sets the brightness...)15:30
charlie-tcaI saw that. At least we get it before release15:30
mr_pouitcharlie-tca: this one looks like a bad interaction between xfce4-session and xserver 1.1015:31
charlie-tcaheh, I am surprised that is all you missed. You been working hard trying to keep 4.8 up15:31
mr_pouitnot easy to reproduce, I think xorg is crashing15:31
charlie-tcaThe shutdown to gdm thing?15:31
mr_pouityeah15:32
charlie-tcaOkay. That is already reported to xfce, too.15:32
mr_pouitxfce4-session does something that makes xorg crash15:32
mr_pouitand so it can't finish its job to shutdown/reboot before the crash15:32
charlie-tcaI can go find that bug again, and add it as upstream report 15:32
charlie-tcaIt is being tracked by the release manager, so I want to try and mark it as something being followed up on15:33
mr_pouitI don't know why apport doesn't ctach anything though15:33
mr_pouit*catch15:33
charlie-tcaIs it an assert crash, by chance?15:34
charlie-tcaI saw it one time during testing of beta2, I wonder if I try enouyg15:34
charlie-tcaenough times, can I get a backtrace for it manually?15:34
mr_pouitI think you have to ask xorg to generate a core file when it crashes15:35
mr_pouitusually by passing "-core" to its command line15:35
charlie-tcaThat is probably true. It is not easy to get everything15:35
mr_pouitbut with gdm3, I don't know how to change the command line used to start X15:35
charlie-tcaI will try to dig something up15:36
charlie-tcaNot sure there will be much we can do, but we are at least aware of the problem15:36
mr_pouityeah, I think it won't be fixed for the release15:37
mr_pouitit's the kind of "annoying but not really grave" issues15:37
charlie-tcaI agree15:37
charlie-tcaI just hope to move it off the radar, so we don't get pushed to do something about it15:38
charlie-tcamr_pouit: I think it is https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744215:44
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 7442 in General "xfdesktop crash on exit with xorg-server 1.10" [Critical,New]15:45
mr_pouit+115:45
charlie-tcaThanks15:46
mr_pouitit doesn't seem limited to some hw, as they write about ati, nvidia, etc...15:46
charlie-tcaexactly. I have seen it on intel, ati, and nvidia, along with virtual box15:46
charlie-tcaand the three reports referenced in the last comment all describe the same thing we see15:47
mr_pouitI haven't been able to reproduce it in virtualbox for several weeks15:47
mr_pouitbad luck :p15:47
charlie-tcaheh15:47
charlie-tcasuch things happen. Like I said, I saw it once in beta215:48
charlie-tcaout of, maybe, 24 installs15:48
charlie-tcamr_pouit: does translations team do the slideshow? bug 75873916:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 758739 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu Natty) "ubiquity slideshow not translated during xubuntu wubi installation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75873916:24
charlie-tcamr_pouit: mvo did get the upgrades fixed. No longer pulling in gnome19:47
charlie-tcaNow I got to reproduce the failure to show upgrade with -d bug, and that is about a 6 hour upgrade19:47

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