[15:03] Good morning [15:05] Afternoon [15:18] mr_pouit: installed 32bit yesterday, 64bit today. both alternate and desktop each day, working as far as installs. [15:18] will test maverick to natty upgrade today, mvo said he fixed the bug [15:19] i did a meverick to natty upgrade and it worked fine here 64 bit [15:20] MisterJones: did you check if gnome-panel installed? apt-cache policy gnome-panel [15:20] that i did not [15:20] That's what we are looking for now. upgrades pulling in all of gnome [15:21] when i ran the upgrade i didnt see it pull gnome-panel or things of that nature [15:22] when did you run it? [15:22] last wednesday or thursday [15:23] Unless you had xfce4-indicator-plugin installed in maverick, it pulled in gnome [15:23] ok [15:28] okay, glad to hear [15:28] \o [15:29] I fixed an annoying (security) issue in the latest thunar upload. Now you should be able to copy/move files containing '%' in their name [15:29] Great [15:29] Want anything else tested? [15:29] I want to send the ss [15:30] I want to send the shutdown bug upstream. I saw someone in Arch saying they saw it too with Xfce 4.8 [15:30] I'll upload in a few hours a fixed xfce4-power-manager (we forgot to ship one binary that sets the brightness...) [15:30] I saw that. At least we get it before release [15:31] charlie-tca: this one looks like a bad interaction between xfce4-session and xserver 1.10 [15:31] heh, I am surprised that is all you missed. You been working hard trying to keep 4.8 up [15:31] not easy to reproduce, I think xorg is crashing [15:31] The shutdown to gdm thing? [15:32] yeah [15:32] Okay. That is already reported to xfce, too. [15:32] xfce4-session does something that makes xorg crash [15:32] and so it can't finish its job to shutdown/reboot before the crash [15:32] I can go find that bug again, and add it as upstream report [15:33] It is being tracked by the release manager, so I want to try and mark it as something being followed up on [15:33] I don't know why apport doesn't ctach anything though [15:33] *catch [15:34] Is it an assert crash, by chance? [15:34] I saw it one time during testing of beta2, I wonder if I try enouyg [15:34] enough times, can I get a backtrace for it manually? [15:35] I think you have to ask xorg to generate a core file when it crashes [15:35] usually by passing "-core" to its command line [15:35] That is probably true. It is not easy to get everything [15:35] but with gdm3, I don't know how to change the command line used to start X [15:36] I will try to dig something up [15:36] Not sure there will be much we can do, but we are at least aware of the problem [15:37] yeah, I think it won't be fixed for the release [15:37] it's the kind of "annoying but not really grave" issues [15:37] I agree [15:38] I just hope to move it off the radar, so we don't get pushed to do something about it [15:44] mr_pouit: I think it is https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7442 [15:45] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7442 in General "xfdesktop crash on exit with xorg-server 1.10" [Critical,New] [15:45] +1 [15:46] Thanks [15:46] it doesn't seem limited to some hw, as they write about ati, nvidia, etc... [15:46] exactly. I have seen it on intel, ati, and nvidia, along with virtual box [15:47] and the three reports referenced in the last comment all describe the same thing we see [15:47] I haven't been able to reproduce it in virtualbox for several weeks [15:47] bad luck :p [15:47] heh [15:48] such things happen. Like I said, I saw it once in beta2 [15:48] out of, maybe, 24 installs [16:24] mr_pouit: does translations team do the slideshow? bug 758739 [16:24] Launchpad bug 758739 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu Natty) "ubiquity slideshow not translated during xubuntu wubi installation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758739 [19:47] mr_pouit: mvo did get the upgrades fixed. No longer pulling in gnome [19:47] Now I got to reproduce the failure to show upgrade with -d bug, and that is about a 6 hour upgrade