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chubb16just switched to xubuntu-desktop02:30
babarosaHi there!02:39
babarosaCan someone please help me how to delete context menu settings?02:41
babarosaOn my desktop I have a file created with mousepad.02:42
babarosaAccidentally I set it to open with "umplayer".02:42
babarosaSo, when double clicking a text file the media player starts - and it can't play a text file.02:43
babarosaWhere am I to look to change these settings, I can not delete it within the menu? I did not find it in usr/share/applications.02:44
babarosaSorry for my english, I am no nativer speaker.02:45
babarosaI solved it, I am to look in "~/.local/share/applications/". A search in english language offered a solution.02:52
babarosaIt is my first time visiting this channel. Since I did not get any answers, maybe my pidgin doesn't work properly or there are only bots in here :P02:54
babarosaAnyway, good night.02:54
buff27hi guys, just wondering if I have found a minor bug in Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2, If I open a text document in mouse pad and right click copy something then close the document, it takes a few seconds to close instead of just closing08:50
TheSheepbuff27: maybe you could try it with strace and see what it is waiting for08:51
TheSheepbtw08:51
TheSheep!ubuntu+108:51
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+108:51
Sysii think that's alrady know upstream08:51
buff27ok sorry guys08:52
TheSheepbuff27: not at all, thank you for your concern08:52
ichatsimple question,  - does the alternative installer support  packages selection  at installation time?12:01
ichati have very limited space on the   CF-card and woul prefire to not have to install all commands from a   cli12:02
TheSheepit doesn't, but you can make your own installer that includes things you want12:03
ichatty.12:12
ichatCF -cards wear easily   so i dind't ont want to  install stuff only to remove it 5 mins later12:13
TheSheepyou can install a commandline system12:16
TheSheepand then add things you want12:16
TheSheepthis way you are not removing anything12:16
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pethkaqenihi all19:02
pethkaqenisomeone may help me plz19:02
charlie-tcaPlease ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.19:03
pethkaqenii have a attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) driver problem19:03
pethkaqeniim new to ubuntu server and im so dammed confused with this one19:04
charlie-tcaa problem could be anything. Please describe what the problem is, and what the device is, so if someone knows how, they can help19:04
knomepethkaqeni, #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server questions19:05
pethkaqenidevice - attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0)19:05
pethkaqenithanks19:05
dr_zinGreetings everyone119:21
dr_zin*!19:21
dr_zinI seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"19:22
dr_zinI have even used ' ' that did not work as well.19:23
dr_zinthis is the error i get when run it. Error: need a repository as argument19:24
dr_zinThis what the documentation states."....<sourceline> - The apt repository source line to add. This is either19:26
dr_zin  a complete apt line in quotes, or a PPA shortcut.19:26
dr_zin  Examples:19:26
dr_zinHello is any here?19:27
charlie-tca!patience19:27
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:27
charlie-tcamyself, I have never used add-apt-repository19:28
charlie-tcaI just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add what I need19:28
knomedr_zin, you shouldn't start the line with #, are you doing that?19:28
dr_zinWell I am working on a script.19:28
dr_zinthanks for the tip.... =|19:29
charlie-tcaDoesn't # make it a comment?19:29
ThinkT510# denotes a comment19:29
knomeyes, or in commandline, a non-working command19:29
dr_zinsudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"19:30
dr_zinWow! really you guys don't have a clue!19:33
knome??19:34
charlie-tcaWe can only try to decipher the limited bit of information given.19:34
charlie-tcaSeems like we did pretty good considering the only thing said is19:35
charlie-tca<dr_zin> I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"19:35
dr_zinthat command I posted, returns with an Error.19:35
knomei suppose the command is apt-add-repository, though...19:35
charlie-tcain a script or by itself?19:35
knomehow come that means we don't have a clue, if you get an error? :)19:35
charlie-tcaWithout the # sign, too?19:35
charlie-tcaHelp really does depend on accurate information here19:35
knomeand with apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository?19:36
dr_zin wait....19:36
dr_zinyeah, If add by it self it works :-)19:37
charlie-tcaknome: intuition failing you too?19:37
dr_zinBut is a script it fails19:37
charlie-tcaThen something is wrong with your script19:37
charlie-tcaIt may not even be that line19:38
knomeif it's the same line in the script and it's not working, i'm sure the problem is that you'd need to input the sudo password, which the script won't do by itself.19:38
dr_zinhmm....19:38
charlie-tcawell, I'm definitely clueless19:38
knomehard to say without the script, but if it's meant to be run from the commandline (not automatically without any human input), i don't see why that is not working.19:39
dr_zinWhat you are saying, with in a script it self I must have that on a separate line.19:39
knomeprobably a problem in the bug, as charlie-tca said19:39
charlie-tcaI would guess, yes, it must be a separate line.19:40
dr_zinmeaning  it can't have || &&, and so on.19:40
charlie-tcasounds like programmer error to me19:40
dr_zinsudo aptitude -y install dkms && sudo add-apt-repository19:41
knomeit is 'apt-add-repository', not 'add-apt-repository'19:41
knomeon a bash script, you can pipe and && commands normally, yes19:42
charlie-tcaum, add-apt-repository has a man page19:42
knomethen i think both work..19:42
charlie-tcahowever, I would try it as separate lines to get it working19:43
knomebut in a script, i don't think it makes much *sense* to not add them to separate lines19:43
knomeyeah.19:43
charlie-tcaIt doesn't really grow the file any19:43
knomemakes the script easier to read and less prone to errors19:43
dr_zinas well... $ ls /usr/bin19:43
charlie-tcatake the $ out of there19:43
dr_zinoops19:43
dr_zinsorry19:44
charlie-tcaI will suggest trying your commands in a terminal first. If they don't work as you type them you need to fix them19:44
knomeexactly.19:44
charlie-tcaA command line in a script is exactly the same as in terminal19:44
dr_zinok am writing a script so were i can make my systems my systems.19:47
charlie-tcaYou still need to make sure the commands are working in a terminal before adding them19:48
dr_zinI don't want to spend  all day DL installing my packages every time Install a new ubuntu box19:48
dr_zinThey work in CL19:49
ThinkT510!dash | dr_zin19:50
ubottudr_zin: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash19:50
dr_zinOk, I have a draft of the script that i am working on. it is in google doc's.19:54
dr_zinI want to access to whom would like to help?19:55
dr_zinOk, well, thanks....19:58
dr_zinOk, the then can you guys or gals link me to the  best bash scripting guide for Ubunutu systems20:09
charlie-tcain terminal, man bash20:14
pleia2dr_zin: I learned from this (don't be scared by "Advanced" in the title, it starts off slowly :)) http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/20:15
charlie-tcafuture tip:  start by giving full information, and do not insult those attempting to help20:17
dr_zinI have done a lot of research oh on bash.   I must right path then.20:17
plainashey all... I found out i need windows after all, but my winxp cd is a recoverycd (will take all disk)20:18
plainaswhat+s the easiest/most pratical way to keep a snapshot of a system?20:19
charlie-tcaI keep /home backed up, but put everything back each time I reinstall20:19
charlie-tcaTakes a while reinstalling all the apps20:19
plainasI+ve done that a few times... it works satisfatory... but shouldbe possible to do a bit more...?20:20
dr_zinI am can't help that. i am someone that gets easily t'ed off.20:20
plainascan+t i save a list of installed package names or something like that?20:20
charlie-tcaplainas: yes, there is way, but I don't think it is recommended. I will pastebin the process I use20:21
charlie-tcaplainas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595640/20:23
charlie-tcaI have used it with full installs on Xubuntu20:23
charlie-tcaIt will both remove packages and add packages, just like you would do manually20:24
charlie-tcaas long as you b ackup /home, you have all the config files, too20:24
plainasthat+s what I wanted20:24
charlie-tca(at least most of them)20:24
plainasas long as they are acessible in the repos20:25
charlie-tcayup20:25
charlie-tcaI normally update sources.list before I do anything else.20:25
plainasI do have quite a bit of packages which i installed from home-brewed .deb packages, but they do not break any dependency AFAIK20:25
charlie-tcappa's?20:25
plainasno20:26
plainasjust deb packages20:26
charlie-tcaharder20:26
plainasharder as in "nothing really to do about it "20:26
plainas:)20:26
charlie-tcaProbably have to reinstall those manually20:26
plainasyep20:26
plainasbut the procedure you pointed is cool... it can be used to build costum installs20:26
charlie-tcabut, the rest saves me a couple of hours, usually20:26
plainasfor example, in a school or in a work  place where multiple machines need to have the same software installed20:27
* charlie-tca slaps head20:28
charlie-tcanever thought of that20:28
charlie-tcaI just use it because it takes 3-5 hours to manually reinstall20:28
dr_zinW: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)20:44
dr_zinE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.20:44
dr_zinhttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads20:44
charlie-tcaPlease don't paste errors without telling us what you want20:52
dr_zinGrrrr...20:54
dr_zinI what am going wrong... Ihave check every thing.  I have tried many different ways to get this to work.20:56
dr_zinW: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)20:56
dr_zinE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.20:56
TheSheepdr_zin: looks like it's not you20:58
TheSheepdr_zin: they have a malformed file in there20:58
TheSheepdr_zin: you might try contacting them and asking to fix it20:59
dr_zini just figured it out...   when using the add-apt-repository  command  it puts a src-deb hppt:// in the whit. but when  adding the single  line the sources.list it w\orks just fine.21:01
TheSheepit worked previously too, it just displayed a warning that it couldn't get the sources21:04
dr_zinBut, that leaves my script that i have been working on broken.  What is the way to add  a single line to a " file " like the sources.list?21:04
TheSheepecho "your line" >> yourfile21:04
TheSheepbut you can leave it with that warning just fine21:04
dr_zinIt wouldn't install virtualbox-4.0.21:05
dr_zinIt wouldn't see it.21:05
TheSheepit's only complaining about the missing sources21:06
TheSheepit sees the debs just fine21:06
TheSheeptry it21:06
dr_zinOk, when i ran the aptitude install it would NOT install it.21:07
TheSheepand the only difference is that there is an additional src-deb line?21:08
dr_zinnope still broken21:09
dr_zinCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0"21:10
dr_zinCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0"21:10
dr_zinNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.21:10
dr_zin0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.21:10
dr_zinNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.21:10
TheSheepbtw, instead of appending to /etc/apt/sources.list you can also create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/21:11
TheSheepthen you have the whole file to yourself21:11
dr_zin? ok would like to more details on what  you said.21:12
TheSheepdr_zin: all files found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are included in /etc/apt/sources.list by default21:13
dr_zinTheSheep  Look  i stated that if add the single line to my sources.list it works, but if use add-apt-repository it brakes. Why?  do the src- line that is added.21:16
dr_zinI am working a  script that install my apps that i want.21:16
dr_zinI want to stream line my script.21:18
dr_zinSo, if you are saying that have to create files to make it work.  then that is too much work.21:19
dr_zinThesheep  Anything else?21:20
dr_zinTheSheep If you still think that by having sources.list.d is effective. past the documentation.21:23
TheSheepdr_zin: I just thought that creating a file might be easier than adding a line to exiting file21:23
TheSheepdr_zin: it is surely more foolproof21:23
TheSheep(you are not risking mangling the contents of that file or adding the line multiple times)21:23
dr_zinTheSheep  Would like to work it out but i am late for a viewing of Limitless.21:35
dr_zinIf you like to help I can share a google doc.21:36
dr_zinjust pm your email.21:38
dr_zindrzinn69@gmail.com ... later21:40
TheSheepok, this is very frustrating, I set chromium as the default browser in preferred application, as the x-www-browser in update-alternatives and for handling http and https urls in gconf2-editor, but still when I click on a link in terminal firefox opens21:59
TheSheepchromium says it is set as the default browser too22:00
TheSheepis firefox hardcoded in xfce4-terminal now?22:00
Sysichrome working well with xfce-terminal here22:01
TheSheepis there any other place where I can change it?22:01
TheSheepexo-open opens chromium22:01
Sysiyou need to have FF installed?22:02
TheSheepyes, I use it for development22:02
TheSheepI need all the browsers22:02
TheSheepI checked that uninstalling ff makes terminal run chromium as it should, but installing it back breaks it again22:03
charlie-tcaTheSheep: hard-coded through alternatives now, isn't it22:03
Sysiif you have kde-stuff installed you could try systemsettings (it should work just from xfce settings)22:04
charlie-tcawhat is that "update-alternatives" thing? I believe that is where they tell firefox to hang on no matter what22:04
TheSheepcharlie-tca: it's the global symlinks stuff22:05
charlie-tcaWe blame that on Ubuntu... :-)22:06
TheSheephttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/374120/22:06
TheSheepexo-open works fine, I thought that xfce4-terminal uses that?22:07
TheSheepI think that I will just rename the firefox binary at this point22:07
charlie-tcait does, but firefox is still preferred browser according the alternatives crap22:07
TheSheepcharlie-tca: look at my paste22:08
TheSheepok, I did update-alternatives --remove x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox and it's still starting firefox22:09
charlie-tcaI don't understand much of it, I just know that is the answer the developers in Ubuntu keep giving people22:10
charlie-tcaSeems much harder than it should be22:11
TheSheepare they sponsored by mozilla? ;)22:11
TheSheepah, there is a separate gnome-www-browser22:11
charlie-tcaMaybe ;-)22:12
Sysifor me worked just changing it from xfce configs (now i'm heretic and running F14 KDE)22:12
charlie-tcahm, so you don't Ubuntu in the way at all?22:12
TheSheepno22:13
TheSheepfresh install of xubuntu22:13
TheSheepexo-open works fine, shouldn't xfce4-terminal be using exo-open?22:13
charlie-tcaSysi ain't got ubuntu in the way, Xubuntu still gets pushed around by what they do.22:14
charlie-tcaexo-open should work22:14
TheSheepit does22:15
Sysii'm not sure if you could have someway broken exo or terminal config22:16
Sysi(i'm still on xubuntu natty on netbook)22:16
TheSheepno mention of any web browser in .config/Terminal/terminalrc22:17
TheSheepwhen I rename firefox, it says: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory).22:18
TheSheepso it can't even fall back22:18
Sysidoes apt say something when you're removing/installin FF?22:18
TheSheepyes, it said it was doing update-alternatives to chromium when I uninstalled it22:19
TheSheepbut so did I22:19
Sysiare priorities still same when it's doing it?22:21
TheSheep40 and 4022:21
TheSheephttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/374135/22:21
TheSheepI don't think it's update-alternatives :/22:22
Sysiwhat if you uninstall chromium and then install it back?22:23
TheSheep.config/Terminal/terminalrc:HelperWebbrowser=firefox22:23
TheSheepI think I found it22:23
TheSheepI wonder why I didn't see it before22:23
Sysii wonder how did you get it there in the first place22:25
TheSheepand it does nothing anyways22:26
charlie-tcaI don't have that22:27
TheSheepit's probably form a version of xfce4-terminal that's more than 4 years old ;)22:28
charlie-tcaoh22:28
TheSheepmy home directory is pretty old22:28
charlie-tcayeah, I had to delete all my config files at one point, to get a dev version to work22:28
TheSheepI'm seriously considering renaming the firefox binary and symlinking chromium in its place now22:28
jozefkdoes xubuntu coming with pulseaudio installed by default?22:28
TheSheepjozefk: yes22:29
jozefkwhere are the settings for it?22:29
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Sysisomething in xfce4-mixer, basically install pavucontrol if you really want to do something22:29
TheSheepjozefk: that's not installed by default, install pavucontrol22:30
jozefkis xfce gtk based DE or Qt?22:30
Sysigtk222:30
jozefkcool. KDE is too big cow for my PC now.22:31
TheSheepapt-get moo22:32
Sysiat some point i wished there was light Qt-desktop, but xfce and kde are playing quite nice22:32
jozefkmoo? lol22:33
TheSheepjozefk: try it22:33
charlie-tca:-)22:33
jozefkthis is live xubuntu at the moment22:33
TheSheepshould work22:34
jozefk"Have you mooed today?"22:34
jozefk:)22:34
TheSheepcharlie-tca: is it normal that terminal doesn't have an entry visible in gconf2-editor?22:35
TheSheepI mean in xfce settings editor22:36
TheSheepsorry22:36
jozefkI think xubuntu is the way to go22:36
Sysinever had iirc22:36
charlie-tcaTheSheep: I don't know. I never use gconf2-editor22:37
jozefkiirc?22:37
jozefkwhat that means?22:37
Sysiif i remember/recall correctly22:37
charlie-tcaiirc = if I recall correctly22:37
jozefk:) thanks for explanation22:38
TheSheepI think I will leave it for now, and kill the people responsible for breaking it later ;)22:51
TheSheepI'm really too old for this22:52
TheSheepwhere are the settings from preferred applications stored?23:03
drcTheSheep: /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc or /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/helpers.rc ?23:08
TheSheepah-ha!23:15
TheSheepI found the culprit23:15
TheSheepopen("/usr/share/applications/defaults.list", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 1423:15
TheSheepthat has http-scheme-handler set to firefox.desktop23:16
TheSheepchanging it to chromium-browser.desktop makes the terminal use chromium23:16
TheSheepso now I found a fourth system that specifies the default browser23:17
TheSheepupdate-alternatives, preferred applications, gconf2, defaults.list23:17
TheSheepand I bet defaults.list is going to be re-created after I install any application23:18
LinuxNuthello?23:42
TheSheep!hi | LinuxNut23:43
ubottuLinuxNut: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!23:43
LinuxNutI have a pretty old laptop...a dell latitude D520, I  am downloading xubuntu now, and was wondering how it might work on my laptop?23:44
TheSheepwhat are the specs?23:44
LinuxNutumm...512 mb RAM...1.6Ghz Processer23:45
TheSheepshould be fine23:46
LinuxNutcool!23:46
TheSheepI would add some ram if possible23:46
LinuxNutYea that should help, it takes DDR223:46
LinuxNutI also wanted to ask about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04? After I install 10.10, the release date says near the end of april....how long will it take to download the upgrade compared to a fresh installation?23:48
TheSheepLinuxNut: I think it's about the same23:50
TheSheepLinuxNut: it's the same amount of data after all23:50
TheSheepLinuxNut: may be a little faster to update, as you don't have *everything* from the cd installed23:50
LinuxNutOk..Thnx!23:52
LinuxNutIs it possible to burn 11.04 onto a CD and upgrade my system from the CD itself?23:54

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