chubb16 | just switched to xubuntu-desktop | 02:30 |
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babarosa | Hi there! | 02:39 |
babarosa | Can someone please help me how to delete context menu settings? | 02:41 |
babarosa | On my desktop I have a file created with mousepad. | 02:42 |
babarosa | Accidentally I set it to open with "umplayer". | 02:42 |
babarosa | So, when double clicking a text file the media player starts - and it can't play a text file. | 02:43 |
babarosa | Where am I to look to change these settings, I can not delete it within the menu? I did not find it in usr/share/applications. | 02:44 |
babarosa | Sorry for my english, I am no nativer speaker. | 02:45 |
babarosa | I solved it, I am to look in "~/.local/share/applications/". A search in english language offered a solution. | 02:52 |
babarosa | It is my first time visiting this channel. Since I did not get any answers, maybe my pidgin doesn't work properly or there are only bots in here :P | 02:54 |
babarosa | Anyway, good night. | 02:54 |
buff27 | hi guys, just wondering if I have found a minor bug in Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2, If I open a text document in mouse pad and right click copy something then close the document, it takes a few seconds to close instead of just closing | 08:50 |
TheSheep | buff27: maybe you could try it with strace and see what it is waiting for | 08:51 |
TheSheep | btw | 08:51 |
TheSheep | !ubuntu+1 | 08:51 |
ubottu | Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 | 08:51 |
Sysi | i think that's alrady know upstream | 08:51 |
buff27 | ok sorry guys | 08:52 |
TheSheep | buff27: not at all, thank you for your concern | 08:52 |
ichat | simple question, - does the alternative installer support packages selection at installation time? | 12:01 |
ichat | i have very limited space on the CF-card and woul prefire to not have to install all commands from a cli | 12:02 |
TheSheep | it doesn't, but you can make your own installer that includes things you want | 12:03 |
ichat | ty. | 12:12 |
ichat | CF -cards wear easily so i dind't ont want to install stuff only to remove it 5 mins later | 12:13 |
TheSheep | you can install a commandline system | 12:16 |
TheSheep | and then add things you want | 12:16 |
TheSheep | this way you are not removing anything | 12:16 |
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marinus | hello @ all | 17:10 |
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pethkaqeni | hi all | 19:02 |
pethkaqeni | someone may help me plz | 19:02 |
charlie-tca | Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. | 19:03 |
pethkaqeni | i have a attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) driver problem | 19:03 |
pethkaqeni | im new to ubuntu server and im so dammed confused with this one | 19:04 |
charlie-tca | a problem could be anything. Please describe what the problem is, and what the device is, so if someone knows how, they can help | 19:04 |
knome | pethkaqeni, #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server questions | 19:05 |
pethkaqeni | device - attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) | 19:05 |
pethkaqeni | thanks | 19:05 |
dr_zin | Greetings everyone1 | 19:21 |
dr_zin | *! | 19:21 |
dr_zin | I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" | 19:22 |
dr_zin | I have even used ' ' that did not work as well. | 19:23 |
dr_zin | this is the error i get when run it. Error: need a repository as argument | 19:24 |
dr_zin | This what the documentation states."....<sourceline> - The apt repository source line to add. This is either | 19:26 |
dr_zin | a complete apt line in quotes, or a PPA shortcut. | 19:26 |
dr_zin | Examples: | 19:26 |
dr_zin | Hello is any here? | 19:27 |
charlie-tca | !patience | 19:27 |
ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 19:27 |
charlie-tca | myself, I have never used add-apt-repository | 19:28 |
charlie-tca | I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add what I need | 19:28 |
knome | dr_zin, you shouldn't start the line with #, are you doing that? | 19:28 |
dr_zin | Well I am working on a script. | 19:28 |
dr_zin | thanks for the tip.... =| | 19:29 |
charlie-tca | Doesn't # make it a comment? | 19:29 |
ThinkT510 | # denotes a comment | 19:29 |
knome | yes, or in commandline, a non-working command | 19:29 |
dr_zin | sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" | 19:30 |
dr_zin | Wow! really you guys don't have a clue! | 19:33 |
knome | ?? | 19:34 |
charlie-tca | We can only try to decipher the limited bit of information given. | 19:34 |
charlie-tca | Seems like we did pretty good considering the only thing said is | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | <dr_zin> I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" | 19:35 |
dr_zin | that command I posted, returns with an Error. | 19:35 |
knome | i suppose the command is apt-add-repository, though... | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | in a script or by itself? | 19:35 |
knome | how come that means we don't have a clue, if you get an error? :) | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | Without the # sign, too? | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | Help really does depend on accurate information here | 19:35 |
knome | and with apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository? | 19:36 |
dr_zin | wait.... | 19:36 |
dr_zin | yeah, If add by it self it works :-) | 19:37 |
charlie-tca | knome: intuition failing you too? | 19:37 |
dr_zin | But is a script it fails | 19:37 |
charlie-tca | Then something is wrong with your script | 19:37 |
charlie-tca | It may not even be that line | 19:38 |
knome | if it's the same line in the script and it's not working, i'm sure the problem is that you'd need to input the sudo password, which the script won't do by itself. | 19:38 |
dr_zin | hmm.... | 19:38 |
charlie-tca | well, I'm definitely clueless | 19:38 |
knome | hard to say without the script, but if it's meant to be run from the commandline (not automatically without any human input), i don't see why that is not working. | 19:39 |
dr_zin | What you are saying, with in a script it self I must have that on a separate line. | 19:39 |
knome | probably a problem in the bug, as charlie-tca said | 19:39 |
charlie-tca | I would guess, yes, it must be a separate line. | 19:40 |
dr_zin | meaning it can't have || &&, and so on. | 19:40 |
charlie-tca | sounds like programmer error to me | 19:40 |
dr_zin | sudo aptitude -y install dkms && sudo add-apt-repository | 19:41 |
knome | it is 'apt-add-repository', not 'add-apt-repository' | 19:41 |
knome | on a bash script, you can pipe and && commands normally, yes | 19:42 |
charlie-tca | um, add-apt-repository has a man page | 19:42 |
knome | then i think both work.. | 19:42 |
charlie-tca | however, I would try it as separate lines to get it working | 19:43 |
knome | but in a script, i don't think it makes much *sense* to not add them to separate lines | 19:43 |
knome | yeah. | 19:43 |
charlie-tca | It doesn't really grow the file any | 19:43 |
knome | makes the script easier to read and less prone to errors | 19:43 |
dr_zin | as well... $ ls /usr/bin | 19:43 |
charlie-tca | take the $ out of there | 19:43 |
dr_zin | oops | 19:43 |
dr_zin | sorry | 19:44 |
charlie-tca | I will suggest trying your commands in a terminal first. If they don't work as you type them you need to fix them | 19:44 |
knome | exactly. | 19:44 |
charlie-tca | A command line in a script is exactly the same as in terminal | 19:44 |
dr_zin | ok am writing a script so were i can make my systems my systems. | 19:47 |
charlie-tca | You still need to make sure the commands are working in a terminal before adding them | 19:48 |
dr_zin | I don't want to spend all day DL installing my packages every time Install a new ubuntu box | 19:48 |
dr_zin | They work in CL | 19:49 |
ThinkT510 | !dash | dr_zin | 19:50 |
ubottu | dr_zin: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash | 19:50 |
dr_zin | Ok, I have a draft of the script that i am working on. it is in google doc's. | 19:54 |
dr_zin | I want to access to whom would like to help? | 19:55 |
dr_zin | Ok, well, thanks.... | 19:58 |
dr_zin | Ok, the then can you guys or gals link me to the best bash scripting guide for Ubunutu systems | 20:09 |
charlie-tca | in terminal, man bash | 20:14 |
pleia2 | dr_zin: I learned from this (don't be scared by "Advanced" in the title, it starts off slowly :)) http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ | 20:15 |
charlie-tca | future tip: start by giving full information, and do not insult those attempting to help | 20:17 |
dr_zin | I have done a lot of research oh on bash. I must right path then. | 20:17 |
plainas | hey all... I found out i need windows after all, but my winxp cd is a recoverycd (will take all disk) | 20:18 |
plainas | what+s the easiest/most pratical way to keep a snapshot of a system? | 20:19 |
charlie-tca | I keep /home backed up, but put everything back each time I reinstall | 20:19 |
charlie-tca | Takes a while reinstalling all the apps | 20:19 |
plainas | I+ve done that a few times... it works satisfatory... but shouldbe possible to do a bit more...? | 20:20 |
dr_zin | I am can't help that. i am someone that gets easily t'ed off. | 20:20 |
plainas | can+t i save a list of installed package names or something like that? | 20:20 |
charlie-tca | plainas: yes, there is way, but I don't think it is recommended. I will pastebin the process I use | 20:21 |
charlie-tca | plainas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595640/ | 20:23 |
charlie-tca | I have used it with full installs on Xubuntu | 20:23 |
charlie-tca | It will both remove packages and add packages, just like you would do manually | 20:24 |
charlie-tca | as long as you b ackup /home, you have all the config files, too | 20:24 |
plainas | that+s what I wanted | 20:24 |
charlie-tca | (at least most of them) | 20:24 |
plainas | as long as they are acessible in the repos | 20:25 |
charlie-tca | yup | 20:25 |
charlie-tca | I normally update sources.list before I do anything else. | 20:25 |
plainas | I do have quite a bit of packages which i installed from home-brewed .deb packages, but they do not break any dependency AFAIK | 20:25 |
charlie-tca | ppa's? | 20:25 |
plainas | no | 20:26 |
plainas | just deb packages | 20:26 |
charlie-tca | harder | 20:26 |
plainas | harder as in "nothing really to do about it " | 20:26 |
plainas | :) | 20:26 |
charlie-tca | Probably have to reinstall those manually | 20:26 |
plainas | yep | 20:26 |
plainas | but the procedure you pointed is cool... it can be used to build costum installs | 20:26 |
charlie-tca | but, the rest saves me a couple of hours, usually | 20:26 |
plainas | for example, in a school or in a work place where multiple machines need to have the same software installed | 20:27 |
* charlie-tca slaps head | 20:28 | |
charlie-tca | never thought of that | 20:28 |
charlie-tca | I just use it because it takes 3-5 hours to manually reinstall | 20:28 |
dr_zin | W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 20:44 |
dr_zin | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 20:44 |
dr_zin | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads | 20:44 |
charlie-tca | Please don't paste errors without telling us what you want | 20:52 |
dr_zin | Grrrr... | 20:54 |
dr_zin | I what am going wrong... Ihave check every thing. I have tried many different ways to get this to work. | 20:56 |
dr_zin | W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 20:56 |
dr_zin | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 20:56 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: looks like it's not you | 20:58 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: they have a malformed file in there | 20:58 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: you might try contacting them and asking to fix it | 20:59 |
dr_zin | i just figured it out... when using the add-apt-repository command it puts a src-deb hppt:// in the whit. but when adding the single line the sources.list it w\orks just fine. | 21:01 |
TheSheep | it worked previously too, it just displayed a warning that it couldn't get the sources | 21:04 |
dr_zin | But, that leaves my script that i have been working on broken. What is the way to add a single line to a " file " like the sources.list? | 21:04 |
TheSheep | echo "your line" >> yourfile | 21:04 |
TheSheep | but you can leave it with that warning just fine | 21:04 |
dr_zin | It wouldn't install virtualbox-4.0. | 21:05 |
dr_zin | It wouldn't see it. | 21:05 |
TheSheep | it's only complaining about the missing sources | 21:06 |
TheSheep | it sees the debs just fine | 21:06 |
TheSheep | try it | 21:06 |
dr_zin | Ok, when i ran the aptitude install it would NOT install it. | 21:07 |
TheSheep | and the only difference is that there is an additional src-deb line? | 21:08 |
dr_zin | nope still broken | 21:09 |
dr_zin | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0" | 21:10 |
dr_zin | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0" | 21:10 |
dr_zin | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. | 21:10 |
dr_zin | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 21:10 |
dr_zin | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. | 21:10 |
TheSheep | btw, instead of appending to /etc/apt/sources.list you can also create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 21:11 |
TheSheep | then you have the whole file to yourself | 21:11 |
dr_zin | ? ok would like to more details on what you said. | 21:12 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: all files found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are included in /etc/apt/sources.list by default | 21:13 |
dr_zin | TheSheep Look i stated that if add the single line to my sources.list it works, but if use add-apt-repository it brakes. Why? do the src- line that is added. | 21:16 |
dr_zin | I am working a script that install my apps that i want. | 21:16 |
dr_zin | I want to stream line my script. | 21:18 |
dr_zin | So, if you are saying that have to create files to make it work. then that is too much work. | 21:19 |
dr_zin | Thesheep Anything else? | 21:20 |
dr_zin | TheSheep If you still think that by having sources.list.d is effective. past the documentation. | 21:23 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: I just thought that creating a file might be easier than adding a line to exiting file | 21:23 |
TheSheep | dr_zin: it is surely more foolproof | 21:23 |
TheSheep | (you are not risking mangling the contents of that file or adding the line multiple times) | 21:23 |
dr_zin | TheSheep Would like to work it out but i am late for a viewing of Limitless. | 21:35 |
dr_zin | If you like to help I can share a google doc. | 21:36 |
dr_zin | just pm your email. | 21:38 |
dr_zin | drzinn69@gmail.com ... later | 21:40 |
TheSheep | ok, this is very frustrating, I set chromium as the default browser in preferred application, as the x-www-browser in update-alternatives and for handling http and https urls in gconf2-editor, but still when I click on a link in terminal firefox opens | 21:59 |
TheSheep | chromium says it is set as the default browser too | 22:00 |
TheSheep | is firefox hardcoded in xfce4-terminal now? | 22:00 |
Sysi | chrome working well with xfce-terminal here | 22:01 |
TheSheep | is there any other place where I can change it? | 22:01 |
TheSheep | exo-open opens chromium | 22:01 |
Sysi | you need to have FF installed? | 22:02 |
TheSheep | yes, I use it for development | 22:02 |
TheSheep | I need all the browsers | 22:02 |
TheSheep | I checked that uninstalling ff makes terminal run chromium as it should, but installing it back breaks it again | 22:03 |
charlie-tca | TheSheep: hard-coded through alternatives now, isn't it | 22:03 |
Sysi | if you have kde-stuff installed you could try systemsettings (it should work just from xfce settings) | 22:04 |
charlie-tca | what is that "update-alternatives" thing? I believe that is where they tell firefox to hang on no matter what | 22:04 |
TheSheep | charlie-tca: it's the global symlinks stuff | 22:05 |
charlie-tca | We blame that on Ubuntu... :-) | 22:06 |
TheSheep | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374120/ | 22:06 |
TheSheep | exo-open works fine, I thought that xfce4-terminal uses that? | 22:07 |
TheSheep | I think that I will just rename the firefox binary at this point | 22:07 |
charlie-tca | it does, but firefox is still preferred browser according the alternatives crap | 22:07 |
TheSheep | charlie-tca: look at my paste | 22:08 |
TheSheep | ok, I did update-alternatives --remove x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox and it's still starting firefox | 22:09 |
charlie-tca | I don't understand much of it, I just know that is the answer the developers in Ubuntu keep giving people | 22:10 |
charlie-tca | Seems much harder than it should be | 22:11 |
TheSheep | are they sponsored by mozilla? ;) | 22:11 |
TheSheep | ah, there is a separate gnome-www-browser | 22:11 |
charlie-tca | Maybe ;-) | 22:12 |
Sysi | for me worked just changing it from xfce configs (now i'm heretic and running F14 KDE) | 22:12 |
charlie-tca | hm, so you don't Ubuntu in the way at all? | 22:12 |
TheSheep | no | 22:13 |
TheSheep | fresh install of xubuntu | 22:13 |
TheSheep | exo-open works fine, shouldn't xfce4-terminal be using exo-open? | 22:13 |
charlie-tca | Sysi ain't got ubuntu in the way, Xubuntu still gets pushed around by what they do. | 22:14 |
charlie-tca | exo-open should work | 22:14 |
TheSheep | it does | 22:15 |
Sysi | i'm not sure if you could have someway broken exo or terminal config | 22:16 |
Sysi | (i'm still on xubuntu natty on netbook) | 22:16 |
TheSheep | no mention of any web browser in .config/Terminal/terminalrc | 22:17 |
TheSheep | when I rename firefox, it says: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory). | 22:18 |
TheSheep | so it can't even fall back | 22:18 |
Sysi | does apt say something when you're removing/installin FF? | 22:18 |
TheSheep | yes, it said it was doing update-alternatives to chromium when I uninstalled it | 22:19 |
TheSheep | but so did I | 22:19 |
Sysi | are priorities still same when it's doing it? | 22:21 |
TheSheep | 40 and 40 | 22:21 |
TheSheep | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374135/ | 22:21 |
TheSheep | I don't think it's update-alternatives :/ | 22:22 |
Sysi | what if you uninstall chromium and then install it back? | 22:23 |
TheSheep | .config/Terminal/terminalrc:HelperWebbrowser=firefox | 22:23 |
TheSheep | I think I found it | 22:23 |
TheSheep | I wonder why I didn't see it before | 22:23 |
Sysi | i wonder how did you get it there in the first place | 22:25 |
TheSheep | and it does nothing anyways | 22:26 |
charlie-tca | I don't have that | 22:27 |
TheSheep | it's probably form a version of xfce4-terminal that's more than 4 years old ;) | 22:28 |
charlie-tca | oh | 22:28 |
TheSheep | my home directory is pretty old | 22:28 |
charlie-tca | yeah, I had to delete all my config files at one point, to get a dev version to work | 22:28 |
TheSheep | I'm seriously considering renaming the firefox binary and symlinking chromium in its place now | 22:28 |
jozefk | does xubuntu coming with pulseaudio installed by default? | 22:28 |
TheSheep | jozefk: yes | 22:29 |
jozefk | where are the settings for it? | 22:29 |
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Sysi | something in xfce4-mixer, basically install pavucontrol if you really want to do something | 22:29 |
TheSheep | jozefk: that's not installed by default, install pavucontrol | 22:30 |
jozefk | is xfce gtk based DE or Qt? | 22:30 |
Sysi | gtk2 | 22:30 |
jozefk | cool. KDE is too big cow for my PC now. | 22:31 |
TheSheep | apt-get moo | 22:32 |
Sysi | at some point i wished there was light Qt-desktop, but xfce and kde are playing quite nice | 22:32 |
jozefk | moo? lol | 22:33 |
TheSheep | jozefk: try it | 22:33 |
charlie-tca | :-) | 22:33 |
jozefk | this is live xubuntu at the moment | 22:33 |
TheSheep | should work | 22:34 |
jozefk | "Have you mooed today?" | 22:34 |
jozefk | :) | 22:34 |
TheSheep | charlie-tca: is it normal that terminal doesn't have an entry visible in gconf2-editor? | 22:35 |
TheSheep | I mean in xfce settings editor | 22:36 |
TheSheep | sorry | 22:36 |
jozefk | I think xubuntu is the way to go | 22:36 |
Sysi | never had iirc | 22:36 |
charlie-tca | TheSheep: I don't know. I never use gconf2-editor | 22:37 |
jozefk | iirc? | 22:37 |
jozefk | what that means? | 22:37 |
Sysi | if i remember/recall correctly | 22:37 |
charlie-tca | iirc = if I recall correctly | 22:37 |
jozefk | :) thanks for explanation | 22:38 |
TheSheep | I think I will leave it for now, and kill the people responsible for breaking it later ;) | 22:51 |
TheSheep | I'm really too old for this | 22:52 |
TheSheep | where are the settings from preferred applications stored? | 23:03 |
drc | TheSheep: /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc or /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/helpers.rc ? | 23:08 |
TheSheep | ah-ha! | 23:15 |
TheSheep | I found the culprit | 23:15 |
TheSheep | open("/usr/share/applications/defaults.list", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14 | 23:15 |
TheSheep | that has http-scheme-handler set to firefox.desktop | 23:16 |
TheSheep | changing it to chromium-browser.desktop makes the terminal use chromium | 23:16 |
TheSheep | so now I found a fourth system that specifies the default browser | 23:17 |
TheSheep | update-alternatives, preferred applications, gconf2, defaults.list | 23:17 |
TheSheep | and I bet defaults.list is going to be re-created after I install any application | 23:18 |
LinuxNut | hello? | 23:42 |
TheSheep | !hi | LinuxNut | 23:43 |
ubottu | LinuxNut: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 23:43 |
LinuxNut | I have a pretty old laptop...a dell latitude D520, I am downloading xubuntu now, and was wondering how it might work on my laptop? | 23:44 |
TheSheep | what are the specs? | 23:44 |
LinuxNut | umm...512 mb RAM...1.6Ghz Processer | 23:45 |
TheSheep | should be fine | 23:46 |
LinuxNut | cool! | 23:46 |
TheSheep | I would add some ram if possible | 23:46 |
LinuxNut | Yea that should help, it takes DDR2 | 23:46 |
LinuxNut | I also wanted to ask about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04? After I install 10.10, the release date says near the end of april....how long will it take to download the upgrade compared to a fresh installation? | 23:48 |
TheSheep | LinuxNut: I think it's about the same | 23:50 |
TheSheep | LinuxNut: it's the same amount of data after all | 23:50 |
TheSheep | LinuxNut: may be a little faster to update, as you don't have *everything* from the cd installed | 23:50 |
LinuxNut | Ok..Thnx! | 23:52 |
LinuxNut | Is it possible to burn 11.04 onto a CD and upgrade my system from the CD itself? | 23:54 |
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