[02:30] just switched to xubuntu-desktop [02:39] Hi there! [02:41] Can someone please help me how to delete context menu settings? [02:42] On my desktop I have a file created with mousepad. [02:42] Accidentally I set it to open with "umplayer". [02:43] So, when double clicking a text file the media player starts - and it can't play a text file. [02:44] Where am I to look to change these settings, I can not delete it within the menu? I did not find it in usr/share/applications. [02:45] Sorry for my english, I am no nativer speaker. [02:52] I solved it, I am to look in "~/.local/share/applications/". A search in english language offered a solution. [02:54] It is my first time visiting this channel. Since I did not get any answers, maybe my pidgin doesn't work properly or there are only bots in here :P [02:54] Anyway, good night. [08:50] hi guys, just wondering if I have found a minor bug in Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2, If I open a text document in mouse pad and right click copy something then close the document, it takes a few seconds to close instead of just closing [08:51] buff27: maybe you could try it with strace and see what it is waiting for [08:51] btw [08:51] !ubuntu+1 [08:51] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [08:51] i think that's alrady know upstream [08:52] ok sorry guys [08:52] buff27: not at all, thank you for your concern [12:01] simple question, - does the alternative installer support packages selection at installation time? [12:02] i have very limited space on the CF-card and woul prefire to not have to install all commands from a cli [12:03] it doesn't, but you can make your own installer that includes things you want [12:12] ty. [12:13] CF -cards wear easily so i dind't ont want to install stuff only to remove it 5 mins later [12:16] you can install a commandline system [12:16] and then add things you want [12:16] this way you are not removing anything === thermi is now known as Thermi === Mouse|Sleep is now known as An_Ony_Moose [17:10] hello @ all === Thermi_ is now known as Thermi [19:02] hi all [19:02] someone may help me plz [19:03] Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. [19:03] i have a attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) driver problem [19:04] im new to ubuntu server and im so dammed confused with this one [19:04] a problem could be anything. Please describe what the problem is, and what the device is, so if someone knows how, they can help [19:05] pethkaqeni, #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server questions [19:05] device - attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) [19:05] thanks [19:21] Greetings everyone1 [19:21] *! [19:22] I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" [19:23] I have even used ' ' that did not work as well. [19:24] this is the error i get when run it. Error: need a repository as argument [19:26] This what the documentation states.".... - The apt repository source line to add. This is either [19:26] a complete apt line in quotes, or a PPA shortcut. [19:26] Examples: [19:27] Hello is any here? [19:27] !patience [19:27] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [19:28] myself, I have never used add-apt-repository [19:28] I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add what I need [19:28] dr_zin, you shouldn't start the line with #, are you doing that? [19:28] Well I am working on a script. [19:29] thanks for the tip.... =| [19:29] Doesn't # make it a comment? [19:29] # denotes a comment [19:29] yes, or in commandline, a non-working command [19:30] sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" [19:33] Wow! really you guys don't have a clue! [19:34] ?? [19:34] We can only try to decipher the limited bit of information given. [19:35] Seems like we did pretty good considering the only thing said is [19:35] I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" [19:35] that command I posted, returns with an Error. [19:35] i suppose the command is apt-add-repository, though... [19:35] in a script or by itself? [19:35] how come that means we don't have a clue, if you get an error? :) [19:35] Without the # sign, too? [19:35] Help really does depend on accurate information here [19:36] and with apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository? [19:36] wait.... [19:37] yeah, If add by it self it works :-) [19:37] knome: intuition failing you too? [19:37] But is a script it fails [19:37] Then something is wrong with your script [19:38] It may not even be that line [19:38] if it's the same line in the script and it's not working, i'm sure the problem is that you'd need to input the sudo password, which the script won't do by itself. [19:38] hmm.... [19:38] well, I'm definitely clueless [19:39] hard to say without the script, but if it's meant to be run from the commandline (not automatically without any human input), i don't see why that is not working. [19:39] What you are saying, with in a script it self I must have that on a separate line. [19:39] probably a problem in the bug, as charlie-tca said [19:40] I would guess, yes, it must be a separate line. [19:40] meaning it can't have || &&, and so on. [19:40] sounds like programmer error to me [19:41] sudo aptitude -y install dkms && sudo add-apt-repository [19:41] it is 'apt-add-repository', not 'add-apt-repository' [19:42] on a bash script, you can pipe and && commands normally, yes [19:42] um, add-apt-repository has a man page [19:42] then i think both work.. [19:43] however, I would try it as separate lines to get it working [19:43] but in a script, i don't think it makes much *sense* to not add them to separate lines [19:43] yeah. [19:43] It doesn't really grow the file any [19:43] makes the script easier to read and less prone to errors [19:43] as well... $ ls /usr/bin [19:43] take the $ out of there [19:43] oops [19:44] sorry [19:44] I will suggest trying your commands in a terminal first. If they don't work as you type them you need to fix them [19:44] exactly. [19:44] A command line in a script is exactly the same as in terminal [19:47] ok am writing a script so were i can make my systems my systems. [19:48] You still need to make sure the commands are working in a terminal before adding them [19:48] I don't want to spend all day DL installing my packages every time Install a new ubuntu box [19:49] They work in CL [19:50] !dash | dr_zin [19:50] dr_zin: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash [19:54] Ok, I have a draft of the script that i am working on. it is in google doc's. [19:55] I want to access to whom would like to help? [19:58] Ok, well, thanks.... [20:09] Ok, the then can you guys or gals link me to the best bash scripting guide for Ubunutu systems [20:14] in terminal, man bash [20:15] dr_zin: I learned from this (don't be scared by "Advanced" in the title, it starts off slowly :)) http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [20:17] future tip: start by giving full information, and do not insult those attempting to help [20:17] I have done a lot of research oh on bash. I must right path then. [20:18] hey all... I found out i need windows after all, but my winxp cd is a recoverycd (will take all disk) [20:19] what+s the easiest/most pratical way to keep a snapshot of a system? [20:19] I keep /home backed up, but put everything back each time I reinstall [20:19] Takes a while reinstalling all the apps [20:20] I+ve done that a few times... it works satisfatory... but shouldbe possible to do a bit more...? [20:20] I am can't help that. i am someone that gets easily t'ed off. [20:20] can+t i save a list of installed package names or something like that? [20:21] plainas: yes, there is way, but I don't think it is recommended. I will pastebin the process I use [20:23] plainas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595640/ [20:23] I have used it with full installs on Xubuntu [20:24] It will both remove packages and add packages, just like you would do manually [20:24] as long as you b ackup /home, you have all the config files, too [20:24] that+s what I wanted [20:24] (at least most of them) [20:25] as long as they are acessible in the repos [20:25] yup [20:25] I normally update sources.list before I do anything else. [20:25] I do have quite a bit of packages which i installed from home-brewed .deb packages, but they do not break any dependency AFAIK [20:25] ppa's? [20:26] no [20:26] just deb packages [20:26] harder [20:26] harder as in "nothing really to do about it " [20:26] :) [20:26] Probably have to reinstall those manually [20:26] yep [20:26] but the procedure you pointed is cool... it can be used to build costum installs [20:26] but, the rest saves me a couple of hours, usually [20:27] for example, in a school or in a work place where multiple machines need to have the same software installed [20:28] * charlie-tca slaps head [20:28] never thought of that [20:28] I just use it because it takes 3-5 hours to manually reinstall [20:44] W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [20:44] E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [20:44] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [20:52] Please don't paste errors without telling us what you want [20:54] Grrrr... [20:56] I what am going wrong... Ihave check every thing. I have tried many different ways to get this to work. [20:56] W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [20:56] E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [20:58] dr_zin: looks like it's not you [20:58] dr_zin: they have a malformed file in there [20:59] dr_zin: you might try contacting them and asking to fix it [21:01] i just figured it out... when using the add-apt-repository command it puts a src-deb hppt:// in the whit. but when adding the single line the sources.list it w\orks just fine. [21:04] it worked previously too, it just displayed a warning that it couldn't get the sources [21:04] But, that leaves my script that i have been working on broken. What is the way to add a single line to a " file " like the sources.list? [21:04] echo "your line" >> yourfile [21:04] but you can leave it with that warning just fine [21:05] It wouldn't install virtualbox-4.0. [21:05] It wouldn't see it. [21:06] it's only complaining about the missing sources [21:06] it sees the debs just fine [21:06] try it [21:07] Ok, when i ran the aptitude install it would NOT install it. [21:08] and the only difference is that there is an additional src-deb line? [21:09] nope still broken [21:10] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0" [21:10] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0" [21:10] No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. [21:10] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [21:10] Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. [21:11] btw, instead of appending to /etc/apt/sources.list you can also create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [21:11] then you have the whole file to yourself [21:12] ? ok would like to more details on what you said. [21:13] dr_zin: all files found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are included in /etc/apt/sources.list by default [21:16] TheSheep Look i stated that if add the single line to my sources.list it works, but if use add-apt-repository it brakes. Why? do the src- line that is added. [21:16] I am working a script that install my apps that i want. [21:18] I want to stream line my script. [21:19] So, if you are saying that have to create files to make it work. then that is too much work. [21:20] Thesheep Anything else? [21:23] TheSheep If you still think that by having sources.list.d is effective. past the documentation. [21:23] dr_zin: I just thought that creating a file might be easier than adding a line to exiting file [21:23] dr_zin: it is surely more foolproof [21:23] (you are not risking mangling the contents of that file or adding the line multiple times) [21:35] TheSheep Would like to work it out but i am late for a viewing of Limitless. [21:36] If you like to help I can share a google doc. [21:38] just pm your email. [21:40] drzinn69@gmail.com ... later [21:59] ok, this is very frustrating, I set chromium as the default browser in preferred application, as the x-www-browser in update-alternatives and for handling http and https urls in gconf2-editor, but still when I click on a link in terminal firefox opens [22:00] chromium says it is set as the default browser too [22:00] is firefox hardcoded in xfce4-terminal now? [22:01] chrome working well with xfce-terminal here [22:01] is there any other place where I can change it? [22:01] exo-open opens chromium [22:02] you need to have FF installed? [22:02] yes, I use it for development [22:02] I need all the browsers [22:03] I checked that uninstalling ff makes terminal run chromium as it should, but installing it back breaks it again [22:03] TheSheep: hard-coded through alternatives now, isn't it [22:04] if you have kde-stuff installed you could try systemsettings (it should work just from xfce settings) [22:04] what is that "update-alternatives" thing? I believe that is where they tell firefox to hang on no matter what [22:05] charlie-tca: it's the global symlinks stuff [22:06] We blame that on Ubuntu... :-) [22:06] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374120/ [22:07] exo-open works fine, I thought that xfce4-terminal uses that? [22:07] I think that I will just rename the firefox binary at this point [22:07] it does, but firefox is still preferred browser according the alternatives crap [22:08] charlie-tca: look at my paste [22:09] ok, I did update-alternatives --remove x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox and it's still starting firefox [22:10] I don't understand much of it, I just know that is the answer the developers in Ubuntu keep giving people [22:11] Seems much harder than it should be [22:11] are they sponsored by mozilla? ;) [22:11] ah, there is a separate gnome-www-browser [22:12] Maybe ;-) [22:12] for me worked just changing it from xfce configs (now i'm heretic and running F14 KDE) [22:12] hm, so you don't Ubuntu in the way at all? [22:13] no [22:13] fresh install of xubuntu [22:13] exo-open works fine, shouldn't xfce4-terminal be using exo-open? [22:14] Sysi ain't got ubuntu in the way, Xubuntu still gets pushed around by what they do. [22:14] exo-open should work [22:15] it does [22:16] i'm not sure if you could have someway broken exo or terminal config [22:16] (i'm still on xubuntu natty on netbook) [22:17] no mention of any web browser in .config/Terminal/terminalrc [22:18] when I rename firefox, it says: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory). [22:18] so it can't even fall back [22:18] does apt say something when you're removing/installin FF? [22:19] yes, it said it was doing update-alternatives to chromium when I uninstalled it [22:19] but so did I [22:21] are priorities still same when it's doing it? [22:21] 40 and 40 [22:21] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374135/ [22:22] I don't think it's update-alternatives :/ [22:23] what if you uninstall chromium and then install it back? [22:23] .config/Terminal/terminalrc:HelperWebbrowser=firefox [22:23] I think I found it [22:23] I wonder why I didn't see it before [22:25] i wonder how did you get it there in the first place [22:26] and it does nothing anyways [22:27] I don't have that [22:28] it's probably form a version of xfce4-terminal that's more than 4 years old ;) [22:28] oh [22:28] my home directory is pretty old [22:28] yeah, I had to delete all my config files at one point, to get a dev version to work [22:28] I'm seriously considering renaming the firefox binary and symlinking chromium in its place now [22:28] does xubuntu coming with pulseaudio installed by default? [22:29] jozefk: yes [22:29] where are the settings for it? === Thermi is now known as thermi [22:29] something in xfce4-mixer, basically install pavucontrol if you really want to do something [22:30] jozefk: that's not installed by default, install pavucontrol [22:30] is xfce gtk based DE or Qt? [22:30] gtk2 [22:31] cool. KDE is too big cow for my PC now. [22:32] apt-get moo [22:32] at some point i wished there was light Qt-desktop, but xfce and kde are playing quite nice [22:33] moo? lol [22:33] jozefk: try it [22:33] :-) [22:33] this is live xubuntu at the moment [22:34] should work [22:34] "Have you mooed today?" [22:34] :) [22:35] charlie-tca: is it normal that terminal doesn't have an entry visible in gconf2-editor? [22:36] I mean in xfce settings editor [22:36] sorry [22:36] I think xubuntu is the way to go [22:36] never had iirc [22:37] TheSheep: I don't know. I never use gconf2-editor [22:37] iirc? [22:37] what that means? [22:37] if i remember/recall correctly [22:37] iirc = if I recall correctly [22:38] :) thanks for explanation [22:51] I think I will leave it for now, and kill the people responsible for breaking it later ;) [22:52] I'm really too old for this [23:03] where are the settings from preferred applications stored? [23:08] TheSheep: /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc or /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/helpers.rc ? [23:15] ah-ha! [23:15] I found the culprit [23:15] open("/usr/share/applications/defaults.list", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14 [23:16] that has http-scheme-handler set to firefox.desktop [23:16] changing it to chromium-browser.desktop makes the terminal use chromium [23:17] so now I found a fourth system that specifies the default browser [23:17] update-alternatives, preferred applications, gconf2, defaults.list [23:18] and I bet defaults.list is going to be re-created after I install any application [23:42] hello? [23:43] !hi | LinuxNut [23:43] LinuxNut: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [23:44] I have a pretty old laptop...a dell latitude D520, I am downloading xubuntu now, and was wondering how it might work on my laptop? [23:44] what are the specs? [23:45] umm...512 mb RAM...1.6Ghz Processer [23:46] should be fine [23:46] cool! [23:46] I would add some ram if possible [23:46] Yea that should help, it takes DDR2 [23:48] I also wanted to ask about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04? After I install 10.10, the release date says near the end of april....how long will it take to download the upgrade compared to a fresh installation? [23:50] LinuxNut: I think it's about the same [23:50] LinuxNut: it's the same amount of data after all [23:50] LinuxNut: may be a little faster to update, as you don't have *everything* from the cd installed [23:52] Ok..Thnx! [23:54] Is it possible to burn 11.04 onto a CD and upgrade my system from the CD itself?