[02:30] <chubb16> just switched to xubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <babarosa> Hi there!
[02:41] <babarosa> Can someone please help me how to delete context menu settings?
[02:42] <babarosa> On my desktop I have a file created with mousepad.
[02:42] <babarosa> Accidentally I set it to open with "umplayer".
[02:43] <babarosa> So, when double clicking a text file the media player starts - and it can't play a text file.
[02:44] <babarosa> Where am I to look to change these settings, I can not delete it within the menu? I did not find it in usr/share/applications.
[02:45] <babarosa> Sorry for my english, I am no nativer speaker.
[02:52] <babarosa> I solved it, I am to look in "~/.local/share/applications/". A search in english language offered a solution.
[02:54] <babarosa> It is my first time visiting this channel. Since I did not get any answers, maybe my pidgin doesn't work properly or there are only bots in here :P
[02:54] <babarosa> Anyway, good night.
[08:50] <buff27> hi guys, just wondering if I have found a minor bug in Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2, If I open a text document in mouse pad and right click copy something then close the document, it takes a few seconds to close instead of just closing
[08:51] <TheSheep> buff27: maybe you could try it with strace and see what it is waiting for
[08:51] <TheSheep> btw
[08:51] <TheSheep> !ubuntu+1
[08:51] <Sysi> i think that's alrady know upstream
[08:52] <buff27> ok sorry guys
[08:52] <TheSheep> buff27: not at all, thank you for your concern
[12:01] <ichat> simple question,  - does the alternative installer support  packages selection  at installation time?
[12:02] <ichat> i have very limited space on the   CF-card and woul prefire to not have to install all commands from a   cli
[12:03] <TheSheep> it doesn't, but you can make your own installer that includes things you want
[12:12] <ichat> ty.
[12:13] <ichat> CF -cards wear easily   so i dind't ont want to  install stuff only to remove it 5 mins later
[12:16] <TheSheep> you can install a commandline system
[12:16] <TheSheep> and then add things you want
[12:16] <TheSheep> this way you are not removing anything
[17:10] <marinus> hello @ all
[19:02] <pethkaqeni> hi all
[19:02] <pethkaqeni> someone may help me plz
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[19:03] <pethkaqeni> i have a attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0) driver problem
[19:04] <pethkaqeni> im new to ubuntu server and im so dammed confused with this one
[19:04] <charlie-tca> a problem could be anything. Please describe what the problem is, and what the device is, so if someone knows how, they can help
[19:05] <knome> pethkaqeni, #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server questions
[19:05] <pethkaqeni> device - attansic technology co device 1062 (rev c0)
[19:05] <pethkaqeni> thanks
[19:21] <dr_zin> Greetings everyone1
[19:21] <dr_zin> *!
[19:22] <dr_zin> I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"
[19:23] <dr_zin> I have even used ' ' that did not work as well.
[19:24] <dr_zin> this is the error i get when run it. Error: need a repository as argument
[19:26] <dr_zin> This what the documentation states."....<sourceline> - The apt repository source line to add. This is either
[19:26] <dr_zin>   a complete apt line in quotes, or a PPA shortcut.
[19:26] <dr_zin>   Examples:
[19:27] <dr_zin> Hello is any here?
[19:27] <charlie-tca> !patience
[19:28] <charlie-tca> myself, I have never used add-apt-repository
[19:28] <charlie-tca> I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add what I need
[19:28] <knome> dr_zin, you shouldn't start the line with #, are you doing that?
[19:28] <dr_zin> Well I am working on a script.
[19:29] <dr_zin> thanks for the tip.... =|
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Doesn't # make it a comment?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> # denotes a comment
[19:29] <knome> yes, or in commandline, a non-working command
[19:30] <dr_zin> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"
[19:33] <dr_zin> Wow! really you guys don't have a clue!
[19:34] <knome> ??
[19:34] <charlie-tca> We can only try to decipher the limited bit of information given.
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Seems like we did pretty good considering the only thing said is
 I seem i can't get this to work right. #sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free"
[19:35] <dr_zin> that command I posted, returns with an Error.
[19:35] <knome> i suppose the command is apt-add-repository, though...
[19:35] <charlie-tca> in a script or by itself?
[19:35] <knome> how come that means we don't have a clue, if you get an error? :)
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Without the # sign, too?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Help really does depend on accurate information here
[19:36] <knome> and with apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository?
[19:36] <dr_zin>  wait....
[19:37] <dr_zin> yeah, If add by it self it works :-)
[19:37] <charlie-tca> knome: intuition failing you too?
[19:37] <dr_zin> But is a script it fails
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Then something is wrong with your script
[19:38] <charlie-tca> It may not even be that line
[19:38] <knome> if it's the same line in the script and it's not working, i'm sure the problem is that you'd need to input the sudo password, which the script won't do by itself.
[19:38] <dr_zin> hmm....
[19:38] <charlie-tca> well, I'm definitely clueless
[19:39] <knome> hard to say without the script, but if it's meant to be run from the commandline (not automatically without any human input), i don't see why that is not working.
[19:39] <dr_zin> What you are saying, with in a script it self I must have that on a separate line.
[19:39] <knome> probably a problem in the bug, as charlie-tca said
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I would guess, yes, it must be a separate line.
[19:40] <dr_zin> meaning  it can't have || &&, and so on.
[19:40] <charlie-tca> sounds like programmer error to me
[19:41] <dr_zin> sudo aptitude -y install dkms && sudo add-apt-repository
[19:41] <knome> it is 'apt-add-repository', not 'add-apt-repository'
[19:42] <knome> on a bash script, you can pipe and && commands normally, yes
[19:42] <charlie-tca> um, add-apt-repository has a man page
[19:42] <knome> then i think both work..
[19:43] <charlie-tca> however, I would try it as separate lines to get it working
[19:43] <knome> but in a script, i don't think it makes much *sense* to not add them to separate lines
[19:43] <knome> yeah.
[19:43] <charlie-tca> It doesn't really grow the file any
[19:43] <knome> makes the script easier to read and less prone to errors
[19:43] <dr_zin> as well... $ ls /usr/bin
[19:43] <charlie-tca> take the $ out of there
[19:43] <dr_zin> oops
[19:44] <dr_zin> sorry
[19:44] <charlie-tca> I will suggest trying your commands in a terminal first. If they don't work as you type them you need to fix them
[19:44] <knome> exactly.
[19:44] <charlie-tca> A command line in a script is exactly the same as in terminal
[19:47] <dr_zin> ok am writing a script so were i can make my systems my systems.
[19:48] <charlie-tca> You still need to make sure the commands are working in a terminal before adding them
[19:48] <dr_zin> I don't want to spend  all day DL installing my packages every time Install a new ubuntu box
[19:49] <dr_zin> They work in CL
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !dash | dr_zin
[19:54] <dr_zin> Ok, I have a draft of the script that i am working on. it is in google doc's.
[19:55] <dr_zin> I want to access to whom would like to help?
[19:58] <dr_zin> Ok, well, thanks....
[20:09] <dr_zin> Ok, the then can you guys or gals link me to the  best bash scripting guide for Ubunutu systems
[20:14] <charlie-tca> in terminal, man bash
[20:15] <pleia2> dr_zin: I learned from this (don't be scared by "Advanced" in the title, it starts off slowly :)) http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[20:17] <charlie-tca> future tip:  start by giving full information, and do not insult those attempting to help
[20:17] <dr_zin> I have done a lot of research oh on bash.   I must right path then.
[20:18] <plainas> hey all... I found out i need windows after all, but my winxp cd is a recoverycd (will take all disk)
[20:19] <plainas> what+s the easiest/most pratical way to keep a snapshot of a system?
[20:19] <charlie-tca> I keep /home backed up, but put everything back each time I reinstall
[20:19] <charlie-tca> Takes a while reinstalling all the apps
[20:20] <plainas> I+ve done that a few times... it works satisfatory... but shouldbe possible to do a bit more...?
[20:20] <dr_zin> I am can't help that. i am someone that gets easily t'ed off.
[20:20] <plainas> can+t i save a list of installed package names or something like that?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> plainas: yes, there is way, but I don't think it is recommended. I will pastebin the process I use
[20:23] <charlie-tca> plainas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595640/
[20:23] <charlie-tca> I have used it with full installs on Xubuntu
[20:24] <charlie-tca> It will both remove packages and add packages, just like you would do manually
[20:24] <charlie-tca> as long as you b ackup /home, you have all the config files, too
[20:24] <plainas> that+s what I wanted
[20:24] <charlie-tca> (at least most of them)
[20:25] <plainas> as long as they are acessible in the repos
[20:25] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:25] <charlie-tca> I normally update sources.list before I do anything else.
[20:25] <plainas> I do have quite a bit of packages which i installed from home-brewed .deb packages, but they do not break any dependency AFAIK
[20:25] <charlie-tca> ppa's?
[20:26] <plainas> no
[20:26] <plainas> just deb packages
[20:26] <charlie-tca> harder
[20:26] <plainas> harder as in "nothing really to do about it "
[20:26] <plainas> :)
[20:26] <charlie-tca> Probably have to reinstall those manually
[20:26] <plainas> yep
[20:26] <plainas> but the procedure you pointed is cool... it can be used to build costum installs
[20:26] <charlie-tca> but, the rest saves me a couple of hours, usually
[20:27] <plainas> for example, in a school or in a work  place where multiple machines need to have the same software installed
[20:28]  * charlie-tca slaps head
[20:28] <charlie-tca> never thought of that
[20:28] <charlie-tca> I just use it because it takes 3-5 hours to manually reinstall
[20:44] <dr_zin> W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[20:44] <dr_zin> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:44] <dr_zin> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Please don't paste errors without telling us what you want
[20:54] <dr_zin> Grrrr...
[20:56] <dr_zin> I what am going wrong... Ihave check every thing.  I have tried many different ways to get this to work.
[20:56] <dr_zin> W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  contrib/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[20:56] <dr_zin> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:58] <TheSheep> dr_zin: looks like it's not you
[20:58] <TheSheep> dr_zin: they have a malformed file in there
[20:59] <TheSheep> dr_zin: you might try contacting them and asking to fix it
[21:01] <dr_zin> i just figured it out...   when using the add-apt-repository  command  it puts a src-deb hppt:// in the whit. but when  adding the single  line the sources.list it w\orks just fine.
[21:04] <TheSheep> it worked previously too, it just displayed a warning that it couldn't get the sources
[21:04] <dr_zin> But, that leaves my script that i have been working on broken.  What is the way to add  a single line to a " file " like the sources.list?
[21:04] <TheSheep> echo "your line" >> yourfile
[21:04] <TheSheep> but you can leave it with that warning just fine
[21:05] <dr_zin> It wouldn't install virtualbox-4.0.
[21:05] <dr_zin> It wouldn't see it.
[21:06] <TheSheep> it's only complaining about the missing sources
[21:06] <TheSheep> it sees the debs just fine
[21:06] <TheSheep> try it
[21:07] <dr_zin> Ok, when i ran the aptitude install it would NOT install it.
[21:08] <TheSheep> and the only difference is that there is an additional src-deb line?
[21:09] <dr_zin> nope still broken
[21:10] <dr_zin> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0"
[21:10] <dr_zin> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "virtualbox-4.0"
[21:10] <dr_zin> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[21:10] <dr_zin> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:10] <dr_zin> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[21:11] <TheSheep> btw, instead of appending to /etc/apt/sources.list you can also create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:11] <TheSheep> then you have the whole file to yourself
[21:12] <dr_zin> ? ok would like to more details on what  you said.
[21:13] <TheSheep> dr_zin: all files found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are included in /etc/apt/sources.list by default
[21:16] <dr_zin> TheSheep  Look  i stated that if add the single line to my sources.list it works, but if use add-apt-repository it brakes. Why?  do the src- line that is added.
[21:16] <dr_zin> I am working a  script that install my apps that i want.
[21:18] <dr_zin> I want to stream line my script.
[21:19] <dr_zin> So, if you are saying that have to create files to make it work.  then that is too much work.
[21:20] <dr_zin> Thesheep  Anything else?
[21:23] <dr_zin> TheSheep If you still think that by having sources.list.d is effective. past the documentation.
[21:23] <TheSheep> dr_zin: I just thought that creating a file might be easier than adding a line to exiting file
[21:23] <TheSheep> dr_zin: it is surely more foolproof
[21:23] <TheSheep> (you are not risking mangling the contents of that file or adding the line multiple times)
[21:35] <dr_zin> TheSheep  Would like to work it out but i am late for a viewing of Limitless.
[21:36] <dr_zin> If you like to help I can share a google doc.
[21:38] <dr_zin> just pm your email.
[21:40] <dr_zin> drzinn69@gmail.com ... later
[21:59] <TheSheep> ok, this is very frustrating, I set chromium as the default browser in preferred application, as the x-www-browser in update-alternatives and for handling http and https urls in gconf2-editor, but still when I click on a link in terminal firefox opens
[22:00] <TheSheep> chromium says it is set as the default browser too
[22:00] <TheSheep> is firefox hardcoded in xfce4-terminal now?
[22:01] <Sysi> chrome working well with xfce-terminal here
[22:01] <TheSheep> is there any other place where I can change it?
[22:01] <TheSheep> exo-open opens chromium
[22:02] <Sysi> you need to have FF installed?
[22:02] <TheSheep> yes, I use it for development
[22:02] <TheSheep> I need all the browsers
[22:03] <TheSheep> I checked that uninstalling ff makes terminal run chromium as it should, but installing it back breaks it again
[22:03] <charlie-tca> TheSheep: hard-coded through alternatives now, isn't it
[22:04] <Sysi> if you have kde-stuff installed you could try systemsettings (it should work just from xfce settings)
[22:04] <charlie-tca> what is that "update-alternatives" thing? I believe that is where they tell firefox to hang on no matter what
[22:05] <TheSheep> charlie-tca: it's the global symlinks stuff
[22:06] <charlie-tca> We blame that on Ubuntu... :-)
[22:06] <TheSheep> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374120/
[22:07] <TheSheep> exo-open works fine, I thought that xfce4-terminal uses that?
[22:07] <TheSheep> I think that I will just rename the firefox binary at this point
[22:07] <charlie-tca> it does, but firefox is still preferred browser according the alternatives crap
[22:08] <TheSheep> charlie-tca: look at my paste
[22:09] <TheSheep> ok, I did update-alternatives --remove x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox and it's still starting firefox
[22:10] <charlie-tca> I don't understand much of it, I just know that is the answer the developers in Ubuntu keep giving people
[22:11] <charlie-tca> Seems much harder than it should be
[22:11] <TheSheep> are they sponsored by mozilla? ;)
[22:11] <TheSheep> ah, there is a separate gnome-www-browser
[22:12] <charlie-tca> Maybe ;-)
[22:12] <Sysi> for me worked just changing it from xfce configs (now i'm heretic and running F14 KDE)
[22:12] <charlie-tca> hm, so you don't Ubuntu in the way at all?
[22:13] <TheSheep> no
[22:13] <TheSheep> fresh install of xubuntu
[22:13] <TheSheep> exo-open works fine, shouldn't xfce4-terminal be using exo-open?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> Sysi ain't got ubuntu in the way, Xubuntu still gets pushed around by what they do.
[22:14] <charlie-tca> exo-open should work
[22:15] <TheSheep> it does
[22:16] <Sysi> i'm not sure if you could have someway broken exo or terminal config
[22:16] <Sysi> (i'm still on xubuntu natty on netbook)
[22:17] <TheSheep> no mention of any web browser in .config/Terminal/terminalrc
[22:18] <TheSheep> when I rename firefox, it says: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory).
[22:18] <TheSheep> so it can't even fall back
[22:18] <Sysi> does apt say something when you're removing/installin FF?
[22:19] <TheSheep> yes, it said it was doing update-alternatives to chromium when I uninstalled it
[22:19] <TheSheep> but so did I
[22:21] <Sysi> are priorities still same when it's doing it?
[22:21] <TheSheep> 40 and 40
[22:21] <TheSheep> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374135/
[22:22] <TheSheep> I don't think it's update-alternatives :/
[22:23] <Sysi> what if you uninstall chromium and then install it back?
[22:23] <TheSheep> .config/Terminal/terminalrc:HelperWebbrowser=firefox
[22:23] <TheSheep> I think I found it
[22:23] <TheSheep> I wonder why I didn't see it before
[22:25] <Sysi> i wonder how did you get it there in the first place
[22:26] <TheSheep> and it does nothing anyways
[22:27] <charlie-tca> I don't have that
[22:28] <TheSheep> it's probably form a version of xfce4-terminal that's more than 4 years old ;)
[22:28] <charlie-tca> oh
[22:28] <TheSheep> my home directory is pretty old
[22:28] <charlie-tca> yeah, I had to delete all my config files at one point, to get a dev version to work
[22:28] <TheSheep> I'm seriously considering renaming the firefox binary and symlinking chromium in its place now
[22:28] <jozefk> does xubuntu coming with pulseaudio installed by default?
[22:29] <TheSheep> jozefk: yes
[22:29] <jozefk> where are the settings for it?
[22:29] <Sysi> something in xfce4-mixer, basically install pavucontrol if you really want to do something
[22:30] <TheSheep> jozefk: that's not installed by default, install pavucontrol
[22:30] <jozefk> is xfce gtk based DE or Qt?
[22:30] <Sysi> gtk2
[22:31] <jozefk> cool. KDE is too big cow for my PC now.
[22:32] <TheSheep> apt-get moo
[22:32] <Sysi> at some point i wished there was light Qt-desktop, but xfce and kde are playing quite nice
[22:33] <jozefk> moo? lol
[22:33] <TheSheep> jozefk: try it
[22:33] <charlie-tca> :-)
[22:33] <jozefk> this is live xubuntu at the moment
[22:34] <TheSheep> should work
[22:34] <jozefk> "Have you mooed today?"
[22:34] <jozefk> :)
[22:35] <TheSheep> charlie-tca: is it normal that terminal doesn't have an entry visible in gconf2-editor?
[22:36] <TheSheep> I mean in xfce settings editor
[22:36] <TheSheep> sorry
[22:36] <jozefk> I think xubuntu is the way to go
[22:36] <Sysi> never had iirc
[22:37] <charlie-tca> TheSheep: I don't know. I never use gconf2-editor
[22:37] <jozefk> iirc?
[22:37] <jozefk> what that means?
[22:37] <Sysi> if i remember/recall correctly
[22:37] <charlie-tca> iirc = if I recall correctly
[22:38] <jozefk> :) thanks for explanation
[22:51] <TheSheep> I think I will leave it for now, and kill the people responsible for breaking it later ;)
[22:52] <TheSheep> I'm really too old for this
[23:03] <TheSheep> where are the settings from preferred applications stored?
[23:08] <drc> TheSheep: /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc or /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/helpers.rc ?
[23:15] <TheSheep> ah-ha!
[23:15] <TheSheep> I found the culprit
[23:15] <TheSheep> open("/usr/share/applications/defaults.list", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14
[23:16] <TheSheep> that has http-scheme-handler set to firefox.desktop
[23:16] <TheSheep> changing it to chromium-browser.desktop makes the terminal use chromium
[23:17] <TheSheep> so now I found a fourth system that specifies the default browser
[23:17] <TheSheep> update-alternatives, preferred applications, gconf2, defaults.list
[23:18] <TheSheep> and I bet defaults.list is going to be re-created after I install any application
[23:42] <LinuxNut> hello?
[23:43] <TheSheep> !hi | LinuxNut
[23:44] <LinuxNut> I have a pretty old laptop...a dell latitude D520, I  am downloading xubuntu now, and was wondering how it might work on my laptop?
[23:44] <TheSheep> what are the specs?
[23:45] <LinuxNut> umm...512 mb RAM...1.6Ghz Processer
[23:46] <TheSheep> should be fine
[23:46] <LinuxNut> cool!
[23:46] <TheSheep> I would add some ram if possible
[23:46] <LinuxNut> Yea that should help, it takes DDR2
[23:48] <LinuxNut> I also wanted to ask about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04? After I install 10.10, the release date says near the end of april....how long will it take to download the upgrade compared to a fresh installation?
[23:50] <TheSheep> LinuxNut: I think it's about the same
[23:50] <TheSheep> LinuxNut: it's the same amount of data after all
[23:50] <TheSheep> LinuxNut: may be a little faster to update, as you don't have *everything* from the cd installed
[23:52] <LinuxNut> Ok..Thnx!
[23:54] <LinuxNut> Is it possible to burn 11.04 onto a CD and upgrade my system from the CD itself?