[00:33] <drock_> Can anyone help me diagnose a sound issue? I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 and have firefox installed. The videos play but no sound.
[00:36] <boudiccas> drock_, have you checked the speakers are plugged in okay?
[00:37] <drock_> Yes. It works for everything else. I have all my sound settings set to the same source. I'm playing music right now.
[00:39] <drock_> What's also strange is that it used to work and now it doesn't. I also can't play sound on any local videos from my hard drive recently. Older ones I still can.
[00:42] <boudiccas> drock_, lets see if i understood you - you can play sound outisde of firefox but not within it?
[00:43] <drock_> Yes. Amarok plays sound. Dragon Player plays sound on some things.
[00:44] <boudiccas> drock_, have you got any ff extension which affects the sound?
[00:44] <boudiccas> i don tknow what 'dragon player ' is?
[00:45] <drock_> It's a movie player that came with my install of Kubuntu
[00:46] <drock_> My firefox extensions are adblock Plus, Flash Aid, gTranslate, NoScript and Beef Taco
[00:49] <boudiccas> drock_, try dissabling flash aid and then try  to get soundd in ff again
[00:52] <drock_> No change.
[00:52] <boudiccas> i dont know then, sorry
[01:02] <drock_> thanks for the attempt
[01:43] <Ze_m> nfs cant handle dns -> mount.nfs: Failed to resolve server asus: Name or service not known , any help?
[01:52] <peter__> test
[02:53] <Kaleidoscope> Is there like a list or something anywhere where I can see which Wireless cards are compatible with Kubuntu?
[03:17] <valorie> !wireless
[03:17] <valorie> eh, he left
[05:05] <mole_> just like to say thanks.... last kubuntu update fixed my stalling kwin with intel graphics on my netbook
[05:05]  * mole_ is super pumped
[05:28] <Daskreech> mole_: cool :)
[05:28] <mole_> yeah!
[05:29] <mole_> super pumped about that
[05:29] <mole_> when i alt tabbed and my system didn't hang with kwin eating 100% for 15 seconds
[05:29] <mole_> i wanted to come in here and give u all kisses
[05:31] <Daskreech> Umm
[05:31] <Daskreech> well you still can do that
[05:31] <mole_> lol
[05:31] <mole_> i just might
[05:31] <mole_> what i want to know is
[05:32] <mole_> if i install 11.04
[05:32] <mole_> can i operate
[05:32] <mole_> i mean... i don't have problem with small fixable problems
[05:32] <mole_> but i don't want to toast my desktop completely
[05:33] <mole_> anyone pulled that yet?
[05:43] <Daskreech> mole_: You should get stuff to work but you may have one or two days of down time for the GUI
[05:43] <mole_> so home use only
[05:43] <mole_> heh
[05:43] <Daskreech> Umm yeah
[05:44] <Daskreech> don't run bleeding edge things at work
[05:44] <mole_> oh i don't
[05:44] <Daskreech> like at any point unless that is your work
[05:44] <mole_> i don't have too many problems with 10.10 for my desktop at work
[05:44] <Daskreech> Lots of people think that Ubuntu after it's released is too bleeding edge
[05:44] <mole_> but i use 10.04 on my dev server
[05:44] <mole_> nah nah... i switched to ubuntu because gentoo was lagging behind
[05:44] <mole_> i want bleeding edge
[05:44] <mole_> but i'm too busy to spend too much down time at home
[05:45] <mole_> u know?
[05:45] <mole_> need all fresh packages always...
[05:45] <mole_> when u're not crazy busy
[05:45] <mole_> heh
[05:45] <mole_> 10.10 is definitely not stable enough for 100% uptime though
[05:50] <Daskreech> mole_: very few desktop Linux versions are
[05:51] <boudiccas> what is the default user name and password please to install kubuntu with?
[05:58] <mole_> Daskreech: oh i know
[05:58] <mole_> i was down with kde 2.0 so i know how it goes
[05:58] <Daskreech> boudiccas: You give it one when you install
[05:59] <Daskreech> KDE 2.0 ahhhh the good old days
[05:59] <mole_> ye
[06:00] <mole_> man i just got this job
[06:00] <mole_> i was a programmer then i quit and i was brick laying for a bit
[06:00] <boudiccas> Daskreech, i'm trying to install and get stuck when its asking for that
[06:00] <mole_> but now i'm hackin again
[06:00] <mole_> it's soo awesome
[06:00] <mole_> i'm super pumped
[06:00] <FloodBotK2> mole_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <mole_> lol :P
[06:01] <mole_> i got a gnomer right behind me
[06:01] <mole_> it's funny
[06:01] <Daskreech> boudiccas: It get stuck?
[06:02] <boudiccas> its waiting for a reponse
[06:02] <boudiccas> will a user name of =ubuntu work with a blank password?
[06:03] <boudiccas> thats what seesm to have worked in the past according to google
[06:04] <boudiccas> okay, i'm off to try it and see. wish me luck :)
[06:05] <mole_> is he messing with samba?
[06:29] <Daskreech> I have no idea
[06:43] <DaPenguin> you know you've been coding to long when you start ending sentences with semicolons....
[06:45] <Daskreech> :)
[06:47] <mr0wl> ko
[06:48] <mr0wl> lol
[06:53] <Daskreech> ok
[07:26] <Chris_H> Hi, how can I retrieve the default KDE settings?
[07:30] <gayan1> hello
[07:31] <gayan1> hello
[07:50] <MK``> hello :) I just installed the kubuntu-desktop package in my ubuntu installation, and now it replaces my splash screen with kubuntu. How do I change it back to the original Ubuntu one without removing any of kubuntu?
[07:57] <mase_wk> MK``: good question....i guess you could apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[07:58] <mase_wk> i think that should work and it shouldn't remove anything
[07:58] <mase_wk> actually
[07:58] <mase_wk> that's probably overkill
[07:59] <mase_wk> i am sure you can just dpkg-reconfigure something
[07:59] <mase_wk> but i don't specifically know which package you would need to do that to
[08:00] <MK``> I installed xubuntu as well... it shows the Kubuntu splash screen, takes me to the Xubuntu login screen, then logs me into Ubuntu; made my day seeing that this morning
[08:04] <valorie> isn't the splash controlled by Plymouth?
[08:05] <valorie> I know that you can use systemsettings to change it in Kub.
[08:05] <valorie> but in general *buntu, it's called Plymouth
[08:05] <valorie> as I recall
[08:05] <valorie> !plymouth
[08:05] <valorie> heh
[08:06] <mase_wk> good work.
[08:06] <valorie> thanks, ubottu
[08:07] <MK``> Ah, well all the icons were changed :P
[08:10] <MK``> That was easy :D
[08:10] <Guest10516> hello
[08:10] <Guest10516> i hate kubuntu but i love ubuntu
[08:13] <bazhang> Guest10516, thats not topical here
[08:14] <MK``> kubuntu was the only listing that had an "auto" option. What does that do when selected?
[08:22] <Tm_T> MK``: auto just means that it's the choice that is selected automatically, but can be overriden manually
[08:22] <MK``> ah
[08:36] <Guest2355353523> hello i need really GNOME support
[08:36] <Guest2355353523> where can i find
[08:36] <bazhang> Guest2355353523, you know that
[08:36] <Guest2355353523> ok
[09:25] <gabriel> Hello, I am having trouble playing a dvd. I click the play movie icon in the dvd menu and the dvd spins up, but vlc crashes
[09:27] <gabriel> I have the restricted extras installed...
[09:29] <gabriel> hello?
[09:31] <Tm_T> gabriel: hmm, what happens with other players than vlc?
[09:32] <gabriel> error occured could not read from resource
[09:32] <Tm_T> !dvd
[09:36] <gabriel> COOL! thanks got it going!
[10:10] <Ash_> Hello I need help getting my sound card to work
[10:10] <haakonn> hello, in my kde there is a systray icon that appears for around half a second every other minute. i now think it has something to do with kubuntu's package updater or something. because it causes the systray to expand and then shrink back, it's highly distractive. any way around this?
[10:11] <Peace-> Ash_: which problem do you have ?
[10:11] <Peace-> haakonn: screenshot please
[10:11] <haakonn> Peace-:  i've tried, but it's so brief that it's hard to capture
[10:11] <Ash_> The sound card Intel HD audio just isn't being recognized by the system
[10:12] <valorie> !sound
[10:12] <Peace-> haakonn: ok so , you should use gif animated
[10:12] <Peace-> haakonn: byzanz-record  --delay=3 --duration=8 --cursor  plasma_howto-throw-ball.gif
[10:12] <Peace-> haakonn: that create a gif animated about  8 seconds
[10:12] <Peace-> haakonn: then you can upload somewhere
[10:13] <Peace-> Ash_: mm
[10:13] <haakonn> Peace-:  i'll look at that, thanks
[10:13] <Peace-> Ash_: alsamixer -V all
[10:15] <Ash_> I think it might work now.. Let me check. because it says that my card is HDA Intel and it knows that it is the Realtek ALC880
[10:16] <Peace-> Ash_: i am sure it will work
[10:16] <Peace-> it's only a setting problem
[10:16] <Peace-> hda intel alcSTUF works
[10:21] <Ash_> Okay I still can't seem to get it to work
[10:21] <Ash_> how can I run a test for the speakers
[10:22] <Ash_> or maybe I am just doing something wrong
[10:25] <valorie> !encrypt
[10:27] <Ash_on_his_linux> Hey Peace- this is Ash but on his linux
[10:28] <Peace-> Ash_on_his_linux: ok
[10:28] <Ash_on_his_linux> I can't get the sound to work still
[10:28] <Peace-> Ash_on_his_linux: ok this is my blog http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/kubuntu-audio-card-that-doesnt-work/
[10:30] <Ash_on_his_linux> okay I will check the blog out and I will tell you wat happens
[10:36] <Ash_again> I don't know what you did but it works
[10:36] <Ash_again> worked*
[10:37] <Ash_again> thank you for your help
[10:38] <Ash_again> you have just found your self a fan
[11:37] <Kaleidoscope> Well folks, I've finally decided I'm gonna create a partition for Kubuntu, Any final words of wisdom before I do? =D
[11:47] <James147> Kaleidoscope: dont delete the wrong partition :)
[11:48] <Peace->  Kaleidoscope mmm   no James147 xD
[11:48] <Kaleidoscope> XD I won't
[11:50] <Peace-> Kaleidoscope: you was a gnome user?
[11:52] <Kaleidoscope> No, Always been a KDE user, but had been using wubi
[11:52] <Peace-> :S
[11:52] <Peace-> wubi
[11:52] <Peace-> 3 years i don't use windows :D
[11:54] <James147> Peace-: :D yeah, I havent used windows since my install decided it was no longer valid since that hardware hand changed slightly
[11:54] <James147> ^^ well, by slightly I mean It was on the same harddisk and everything else had changed
[11:54] <Peace-> James147: LOL
[11:55] <James147> Peace-: and once you wait a month it just blue screens :s ...
[11:55] <Peace-> James147: xD
[11:55] <Peace-> James147: i have kdenlive developer on facebook
[11:56] <James147> ^^ :)
[11:56] <Peace-> James147: it has take a picutre of a cocacola
[11:56] <Peace-> distributor
[11:56] <Peace-> that was using windows = blue screen of the dead
[11:56] <Peace-> death
[11:59]  * James147 wonders why qtcreator dosnt remember which desktop it was on when you restart :(
[12:00] <Peace-> i have to change my keyboard
[12:00] <Peace-> :(
[13:01] <uabn93> hello
[13:03] <Miika--> Hello
[13:03] <Miika--> When runnung sudo apt-get update I get this: http://www.pastie.org/1811300
[13:08] <Miika--> *running
[13:12] <topyli> Miika--: broken mirror maybe, try another
[13:12] <topyli> the estonian one is often faster anyway
[13:12] <jussi> Miika--: yeah, wait and try again. :=)
[13:13] <topyli> well yes, it likely won't be broken for long
[13:17] <vikash> does any one know any chat channel for friendship????
[13:25] <erictang> join #unbuntu-cn
[13:27] <kile> ;
[13:35] <jussi> Miika--: fyi, Im also getting that hash sum mismatch
[13:37] <Miika--> jussi: I changed source (?) and not getting it any more
[13:38] <jussi> Miika--: yeah, likely the .fi sources are slightly borked currently
[13:59] <sebastian__> #ubuntu
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:30] <kile> Hi Blues
[14:36] <BluesKaj> hi kile
[14:46] <kile> what brings you here, dude?
[15:00] <kile> hey guys, I updated my kubuntu sys and after that I had problems with the desktop enviroment it just got dark. Then I deleted the .kde directory and restarted, my surprise was that my Eclipse environment got totaly squared.Like kde from stone age. Does someone know how could I do to have my app themes like before? THanks
[15:03] <BluesKaj> kile, which kubuntu version ?
[15:10] <kile> 10.10 kde updated to 4.6
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[15:25] <c-c-m> hello, does anybody know if it's possible to add unity to kubuntu and if it makes sense? thx
[15:27] <BluesKaj> c-c-m, only if you add ubuntu-desktop
[15:28] <c-c-m> hum... I don't think I want to do this :S
[15:28] <c-c-m> do you know if there's any alternative to it?
[15:28] <c-c-m> to unity, I mean
[15:28] <c-c-m> unity + zeitgeist
[15:29] <MaximLevitsky> c-c-m: trust me, you aren't missing unity
[15:29] <James147_> c-c-m: unity is just another desktop enviroment ^^ you can install it alongside kde in kubuntu just like you can isntall gnome or any other de along side kde in kubuntu or ubuntu or any other linux distro :)
[15:29] <c-c-m> what about zeitgeist?
[15:29] <MaximLevitsky> c-c-m: but in a sense sure you can use it in kubuntu
[15:29] <MaximLevitsky> its just a compiz plugin
[15:29] <c-c-m> I see
[15:29] <MaximLevitsky> but for a start it disables the cube
[15:29] <James147_> ^^ though I dont know if its been packaged for 10.10 ^^ if you install ubntu-desktop in 11.04 that should install unity alongside kde in kubuntu
[15:30] <MaximLevitsky> yep, in 10.10 unity is actually mutter aka gnome-shell plugin
[15:30] <MaximLevitsky> but trust me unity is the ****censored****  ***censored**** of ***censored****
[15:30] <BluesKaj> there are alot of complaints about unity ...personally i don'y see thje point of it ...just another pretty face :)
[15:31] <c-c-m> but I read that zeitgeist could be a great companion to nepomuk
[15:31] <c-c-m> well, interface is something to be taken seriously
[15:32] <c-c-m> yes, here's the link I was looking for: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/zeitgeist-coming-to-kde/
[16:15] <alvin> Hi. I'm having trouble printing. Short story: lpr from lprng does the job, while lpr from cups says: connection refused. The problem: kubuntu-desktop depends on cups  and cups conflicts with lprng :-( What to do?
[16:16] <alvin> I expected something along the line of etc-alternatives to handle this
[16:51] <sre-su> i cannot login via kdm, it just takes me back to the loginscreen hoever I can use startx to login succeufully
[16:52] <sre-su> I can stop kdm and do startx to get into user account but have to do it on every login
[16:54] <kishore> can the kubuntu natty installer setup btrfs subvolumes like partitions?
[16:54] <James147_> kishore: ask #ubuntu+1 for natty
[16:54] <kishore> James147_: ok thanks
[17:17] <Daskreech> sre-su: look in ~/.xsession-errors
[17:18] <James147_> Daskreech: nothing there :p
[17:18] <Daskreech> James147_: J,,?
[17:18] <Daskreech> Hmm
[17:18] <sre-su> Daskreech: cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <sre-su> http://paste.ubuntu.com/596107/
[17:19] <sre-su> New thing now James147_
[17:20] <Daskreech> sre-su: seems like you have Dbus issue
[17:20] <sre-su> Dbus
[17:20] <sre-su> Hold on
[17:20] <BluesKaj> BBL... lunchtime
[17:20] <James147_> ^^ heh, there more in it then when i looked :p
[17:21] <sre-su> As far as I can remember I have made startup settings where it would auto-login and the screen would go to screensaver immediately after login
[17:22] <James147_> kdm settings would have been reset on reinstall ^^
[17:22] <sre-su> But those settings are gone from System Settings
[17:22] <sre-su> Yeah, indeed
[17:23] <factoryTales> Hi all. A question abt setting 3G network in kubuntu 10.04 for Huawei modem E367 hspa+.  Network manager  not allowing to configure for type Mobile Broadband. But in 10.10 it works.
[17:23] <sre-su> Moreover, I'm ran that command when logged in using  - stop kdm and startx, Daskreech
[17:23] <James147_> factoryTales: whats the question?
[17:24] <factoryTales> 3G network not getting configured in Kubuntu 10.04
[17:24] <James147_> factoryTales: why not use 10.10 if it works?
[17:26] <James147_> sre-su: how did the new user fair?
[17:27] <sre-su> James147_: I  cannot switch user, will have to logout and log back
[17:27] <factoryTales> Am already using 10.10 for that, wanted to know whats actually creating that prob
[17:28] <Daskreech> James147_: if he (assuming that sre-su is a he) logs in with KDM and it crashes out then checkes the file it's empty?
[17:28] <James147_> probally a bug in that version of networkmanager/ the networkmanager front end
[17:30] <sre-su> brb
[17:31] <James147_> Daskreech: yeah, that what I assume
[17:32] <James147_> Daskreech: though he had the problem with latest kde (4.6) before reinstalling and still has the issue (with the old /home)
[17:32] <James147_> (after reinstalling)
[17:33] <Daskreech> James147_: tried a KDE reset?
[17:33] <James147_> (assuming I understood correctly)
[17:33] <James147_> of user setttings? that the last thing I suggested, not sure if its been done yet
[17:34] <James147_> (well, suggested to test a new user to be exact)
[17:39] <sre-su> James147_: Daskreech: I tried logging with new user created. It doesn't give any issues when tyring to log in but doesn't log out completely - it stops on a black screen saying checking battery state.
[17:51] <Daskreech> sre-su: hmm sounds like some packages are problematic
[17:52] <Daskreech> you have kubuntu-desktop paxkage installed?
[17:55] <sre-su> Daskreech: kubuntu-desktop?
[17:55] <Daskreech> sre-su: yes
[17:55] <sre-su> Isn't that default for using Kubuntu?
[17:56] <sre-su> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[17:56] <Daskreech> Ok good
[17:56] <Daskreech> You are logged in on the cli or in the GIU?
[17:56] <Daskreech> GUI?
[17:56] <sre-su> GUI now
[17:56] <sre-su> (uisng stop kdm and startx)
[17:57] <Daskreech> ok
[17:57] <James147_> sre-su: did you test a new user? (sorry, droped out for a min and might have missed something)
[17:57] <sre-su> You want me to log in on CLI and continue from irssi
[17:57] <Daskreech> can you logout then run mv ~/.kde ~/kdebkup then start kdm and login
[17:57] <sre-su> James147_: Yes, it works. Login works right but the logout from it doesn't work
[17:57] <sre-su> Daskreech: Ok
[17:58] <sre-su> Daskreech: What's ~/kdebkup ?
[17:59] <James147_> sre-su: a folder named ~/kdebkup ^^ that after you run that command will contains the contents of ~/.kde
[17:59] <sre-su> ok
[17:59] <sre-su> hold on
[17:59] <James147_> sre-su: its to reset kde settings without actually losing anything,
[18:03] <sre-su> Daskreech: I did mv ~/.kde ~/kebkup. sudo start kdm and got the login screen. Tried to login but failed in the similar way. On irssi now
[18:04] <Daskreech> sre-su: ok well you can mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde then
[18:04] <sre-su> Daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596121/
[18:04] <sre-su> xsession-errors now
[18:05] <Daskreech> sre-su: what's the session setto on KDM?
[18:05] <sre-su> restore previous session
[18:05] <sre-su> Was that paste useful?
[18:06] <sre-su> Or shoould I mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde?
[18:07] <sre-su> James147_: (You missed this) I did mv ~/.kde ~/kebkup. sudo start kdm and got the login screen. Tried to login but failed in the similar way. On irssi now
[18:09] <sre-su> ??
[18:13] <sre-su> James147_: Daskreech: Hey! I lost my desktop settings rather KDE settings after moving back!
[18:13] <sre-su> mv ~/.kde ~/kdebkup
[18:13] <sre-su> mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde
[18:13] <sre-su> And then I've desktop at default, Amarok as default... Why?
[18:15] <James147_> sre-su: you run that last while you where loged in?
[18:16] <sre-su> Daskreech told to run mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde when i was in irssi. I was logged in cli for the same user
[18:17] <Daskreech> sre-su: so you moved that and lost your settings?
[18:17] <sre-su> Yes
[18:17] <sre-su> It went back to default
[18:18] <sre-su> I want to get those settings back
[18:18] <sre-su> Is that possible, Daskreech??
[18:18] <Daskreech> sre-su: You logged in with startx ?
[18:18] <sre-su> Or what do you suggest now?
[18:18] <sre-su> Yes
[18:18] <James147_> sre-su: do you still have a ~/kdebkup folder? if not do you have a ~/.kde/kdebkup folder?
[18:19] <sre-su> James147_: Yes, i have ~/.kde/kdebkup folder
[18:19] <Daskreech> James147_: >_<
[18:19] <Daskreech> WHoops :-D
[18:19] <sre-su> Now what???
[18:20] <sre-su> I don't want to lose those settings
[18:20] <BluesKaj> hey James147_ , Daskreech
[18:20] <sre-su>  
[18:22] <James147_> grr.. stupid connection
[18:22] <sre-su> Daskreech?
[18:22] <James147_> ^^ missed everything since my last statement again :(
[18:22] <Daskreech> sre-su: oh sorry thought that James147_ would walk you through that
[18:23] <James147_> i dont know ^^ i have missed half the conversation :p
[18:23] <sre-su> Daskreech: Atleast help me get the old settings back... Do I have to mv back to  ~/.kde/kdebkup?
[18:23] <Daskreech> mv ~/.kde/kdebkup && mv ~/.kde ~/kdefresh && mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde
[18:24] <Daskreech> wait
[18:24] <sre-su> now?
[18:24] <Daskreech> mv ~/.kde/kdebkup ~ && mv ~/.kde ~/kdefresh && mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde
[18:24] <Daskreech> That shoudl work
[18:24] <James147_> ok, all your settings should be in ~/.kde/kdebkup, i would move them back to ~/kdebkup with "mv ~/.kde/kdebkup ~/kdebkup"
[18:24] <sre-su> I'm GUI with the same user
[18:24] <sre-su> So, now in terminal when I'm logged in?
[18:24] <James147_> ^^ then to restore the setings do "cp -r ~/kdebkup ~/.kde"
[18:25] <sre-su> Ah, multiple suggestions
[18:25] <James147_> useing cp to restore is preferable as it means you ahve the orignal backups incase something goes wrong in restoration
[18:26]  * James147_ takes this time to note that mv behaves weird ^^ in that if the destination folder exists then the source files/folders are moved into it  rather then replaceing it
[18:27] <sre-su> So, which command should I actually follow?
[18:28] <James147_> sre-su: first "mv ~/.kde/kdebkup ~" to move the backup to its orignal location
[18:28] <sre-su> Now in GUI brought up startx?
[18:28] <sre-su> up by*
[18:28] <James147_> sre-su: generally best to logout of kde first :)
[18:28] <James147_> ^^ though that one wont matter
[18:29] <sre-su> Yeah, hold on. I'll login to irssi
[18:29] <James147_> ^^ but when restorin the settings you should logout first
[18:29] <sre-su> when in cli
[18:30] <sre-su> back
[18:31] <James147_> ok, have you moved the backup back to ~/kdebkup?
[18:31] <sre-su> No, please start back
[18:31] <sre-su> from that first command
[18:31] <James147_> ok, i assume ~/.kde/kdebkup still exists... "mv ~/.kde/kdebkup ~"
[18:32] <sre-su> ok
[18:32] <James147_> that should create a folder ~/kdebkup with the contents of your orignal ~/.kde folder
[18:32] <sre-su> yes
[18:32] <sre-su> wait
[18:33] <sre-su> Done
[18:33] <James147_> then mv the new .kde folder out the way with "mv ~/.kde ~/kdenew" -- taht will move .kde to kdenew... you should no longer have a .kde folder
[18:33] <sre-su> I can see kdebkup folder in ~
[18:34] <sre-su>  /kdenew?
[18:34] <James147_> ^^ the name dosnt matter as long as the folder dosnt already exist
[18:34] <Daskreech> sre-su: ~
[18:34] <sre-su> Ah, why creating /kdenew for /.kde?
[18:34] <Daskreech> ~/kdenew
[18:34] <sre-su> yeah
[18:34] <sre-su> Why creating /kdenew for /.kde?
[18:34] <James147_> (though /kdenew will cause a premission error since you cant write to root )
[18:34] <Daskreech> sre-su: You are backing up the new KDE directory ...just in case
[18:35] <James147_> sre-su: just in case :) dont want to lose anything till your sure
[18:36] <hsr> Yeah, sorry
[18:36] <James147_> ^^
[18:36] <Daskreech> hsr: Me too
[18:36] <Daskreech> :)
[18:37] <sre-su_> I didn't identify myself with NickServ that's why
[18:37] <sre-su_> We are moving it and not taking bakup
[18:38] <sre-su_> Does your future steps contain anything which will give .kde in /home?
[18:39] <Daskreech> sre-su_: yes the last step is mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde
[18:39] <loc0> kde rocks
[18:39] <sre-su_> Yeah, i see that
[18:39] <Daskreech> and it's rock solid!
[18:39] <James147_> sre-su_: yes, the next step is to copy the orignal backup to ~/.kde "cp -r ~/kdebkup ~/.kde"  you can use mv, but cp to keep a copy incase something goes wrong
[18:39] <loc0> yeah
[18:39]  * Daskreech laughs maniacally
[18:40] <sre-su_> O.o
[18:40] <Daskreech> :)
[18:40] <Daskreech> sorry
[18:41] <sre-su_> Nah, I'm confused
[18:41] <loc0> hey i am fedora lover
[18:41] <sre-su_> We are moving .kde to kdebkup and later copying back kdebkup to .kde
[18:42] <sre-su_> We are moving .kde to kdenew* and later copying back kdebkup to .kde
[18:42] <sre-su_> Right?
[18:43] <James147_> sre-su_: overall the steps should have been, backup .kde, see if you can login, (this will likly create a .kde folder) then restore the backup by deleteing or moving the new .kde folder out the way and copying the backup back
[18:43] <sre-su_> Duh
[18:46] <sre-su> Daskreech: What after mv ~/.kde ~/kdenew ?
[18:48] <shadeslayer> sre-su: oh trying to login into a clean KDE desktop env?
[18:49] <factoryTales> Sorry popping question in bw. How to identify of any conflicts (iff any) while installing packages with kPackagekit
[18:51] <James147_> shadeslayer: orignal problem: kdm login loop (tring to login via kdm drops you back at kdm) - what I know so far: new user works, startx on the problem user also works... but I keep dropping connecing and missing 1/2 of it :p
[18:52] <James147_> shadeslayer: was in the steps of testing the problem user with a clean .kde
[18:52] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:52] <Daskreech> sre-su: mv ~/kdebkup ~/.kde
[18:52] <shadeslayer> James147_: which release btw?
[18:52] <sre-su_> Done
[18:53] <Daskreech> factoryTales: I normally just drop to the command line as soon as I see that happen
[18:53] <Daskreech> sre-su_: should be fine now
[18:53] <sre-su_> Daskreech: Yes, I'm using quassel now
[18:53] <sre-su_> Now, what about that login issue
[18:54] <Daskreech> sre-su_: what video card do you have?
[18:54] <James147_> sre-su_: what was the result of trying to login after you moved ~/.kde ?
[18:54] <James147_> sre-su: what was the result of trying to login after you moved ~/.kde ?
[18:54] <sre-su> James147_: sre-su_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/sre-su)
[18:55] <sre-su> James147_: Quassel
[18:55] <sre-su> GUI
[18:55] <sre-su> I got it restored, thanks!
[19:00] <James147_> sre-su: are you able to login via kdm yet?
[19:01] <sre-su> James147_: I followed the commands suggested. Got previous KDE settings restored. But i don't think that solved the initial problem
[19:05] <Daskreech> factoryTales: What is the conflict kpackagekit should be able to resolve very simple conflicts
[19:06] <Daskreech> sre-su: do you have a saved session when you login?
[19:06] <sre-su> Yep
[19:13] <Daskreech> sre-su: may want to start with a fresh session
[19:13] <sre-su> reinstalltion?
[19:18] <Daskreech> sre-su: No you can use the ksmserver to start a new session
[19:18] <Daskreech> !multiverse | factoryTales
[19:19] <brad_> anyone else having trouble with their wireless connection?
[19:20] <brad_> seems to start ok, but never gets an ip address..
[19:20] <brad_> knetwork_manager seems fine
[19:21] <brad_> an apparmor problem?
[19:24] <Daskreech> brad_: ah right I remember hearing about that when 10.10 came out. I think it was a security issue what version of KDE are you using?
[19:25] <brad_> hi Daskreech, version 4.6.2
[19:25] <Daskreech> That should be good enough >_>
[19:25] <brad_> hope so ;)
[19:26] <brad_> I can configure the wlan interface fine in knetwork_manager but it never seems to get an IP address (DHCP)
[19:27] <brad_> iwconfig shows the wlan0 infertace with no ESSID
[19:28] <brad_> yet in knetowrk_manager it seems to be config' properly
[19:28] <Daskreech> iwscan does what?
[19:28]  * BluesKaj curses networkmanager , both gnome and kde .. the only way I got wifi to work was with wpa_supplicant
[19:29] <brad_> iwscan not installed...
[19:29] <BluesKaj> and then it took 30 secs to connect thru the router
[19:30] <maco> brad_: if iwconfig doesnt show it, it means it hasnt associated (the handshake between wireless card and router failed)
[19:30] <maco> Daskreech: iwscan? or iwlist scan ?
[19:30] <Daskreech> maco: That one
[19:31] <Daskreech> I never use Wireless I don't know why I keep answering Wifi questions
[19:31] <brad_> iwlist scan yeilds
[19:31] <brad_> wlan0     No scan results
[19:32] <old> has anyone get kmail working with 10.10
[19:33] <maco> old: yep, works fine for me
[19:33] <old> I got unmet dependencies with 4 libraries
[19:33] <brad_> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan yeilds...
[19:33] <brad_> rad@brad-e1505:/etc/apparmor.d$ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[19:33] <brad_> [sudo] password for brad:
[19:33] <brad_> wlan0     Scan completed :
[19:33] <brad_>           Cell 01 - Address: 00:16:01:59:B2:16
[19:33] <brad_>                     Channel:8
[19:33] <FloodBotK2> brad_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <old> I just did dist-upgrade from 10.04 and kmail was not working
[19:35] <brad_> sorry, I flooded here
[19:35] <old> I tried to reinstall it but faced those unmet dependencies
[19:35] <brad_> pasted into paste.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <brad_> back later
[19:53] <Daskreech> Oh Did he give the paste.ubuntu.com link?
[19:53] <Pici> No
[19:55] <tuxn> can anyone help me install nvidia drivers on my kubuntu ?
[19:55] <tuxn> it gives me error "Check system utility ID"
[19:55] <Daskreech> tuxn: When you do what?
[19:57] <Daskreech> How are you installing the drivers? and which the free drivers or the ones from nvidia
[19:59] <tuxn> yes
[19:59] <tuxn> i have downloaded drivers from Nvidia website beta 270.18.run package
[20:03] <tuxn> while installing drivers from text mode it gives an error
[20:03] <tuxn> check system utility id
[20:03] <tuxn> what does this error mean?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> tuxn, why are you going to instll that driver , doesn't the recommended driver in kmenu/applications/system/additional drivers, work?
[20:05] <tuxn> Last time i did the same but then xorg started eating my CPU memory.. i found some articles on google as well which states default auto updated drivers are bogus.
[20:06] <BluesKaj> tuxn, well, my experience with the nvidia .run drivers are that they break X badly
[20:07] <tuxn> what do you mean by they break?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> tuxn, there are some issues with cpu loads on kde4.6 but it's mostly fixed if you run dist-upgrade which will fix most , the other is to disable the nepomuk indexer in system settings /autostart/service manager
[20:10] <tuxn> see i want to set my default resolution to 1280x1024 can you help me with that?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> it's a bug which unfortunately seems to be low priority
[20:10] <tuxn> everytime when i reboot my system it takes 1024x768 as default.
[20:16] <tuxn> what is system utility ID ?
[20:17] <Daskreech> tuxn: can you type the command id ?
[20:21] <20QAAOTOE> dose anyone know if kwin will support openGL rendering again on intel display drivers ?
[20:21] <Daskreech> tuxn: are you sure that it is ID could it be LD ?
[20:21] <yofel> 20QAAOTOE: being worked on
[20:22] <20QAAOTOE> yofel: thanks ... i'm holding my breath :)
[20:24] <tuxn> how to install bin util package
[20:25] <yofel> you mean binutils? open kpackagekit and install it or open Konsole and run sudo apt-get install binutils
[20:28] <Daskreech> tuxn: binutils my apologies
[20:28] <tuxn> yeah I got it in KpackageKit
[20:29] <tuxn> now installing.
[20:29] <ikonia> tuxn: binutils is already installed
[20:29] <ikonia> it's needed for your system to run
[20:29] <tuxn> ok.
[20:52] <wwwww> i am installing the plasma netbook remix, but my linux dont have kde already, its running on gnome, will it still work if i only istall the packages for the plasma-netbook?
[20:52] <wwwww> or i need the kde as well
[20:53] <BluesKaj> plasma is kde afaik wwwww
[20:53] <Daskreech> wwwww: They are the same thing
[20:54] <wwwww> ok thanks
[20:54] <wwwww> afaik?
[20:54] <DarthFrog> As Far As I Know
[20:54] <wwwww> :D
[20:55] <wwwww> the package its 330mb of isntall i think i am downloading the right stuff
[20:57] <James147_> wwwww: it will pull all the kde libs it needs to run so I would expect it to be quite big if you dont ahve kde isntalled
[20:59] <topyli> how do i bind krunner to the Menu key?
[20:59] <topyli> the shortcuts dialog doesn't accept my lovely Menu key :(
[21:00] <James147_> topyli: short answer: not easy, use the default alt+f1 ^^ or some other combanation
[21:01] <James147_> (or if you want to use the keyboard, use krunner... alt+f2 bydefault)
[21:01] <topyli> James147_: hrm. alt+Fwhatever is too hard to do. i now have it at alt+space, which is ok
[21:01] <Daskreech> topyli: you don't like alt+F2?
[21:01] <topyli> i just got used to Menu while on gnome :\
[21:01] <Daskreech> topyli: open the global shortcuts and edit the one for Kwin
[21:03] <topyli> Daskreech: hmm let me see
[21:05] <topyli> Daskreech: seems to be all window management commands
[21:06] <topyli> global shortcuts -> run command interface does let me change it, but Menu is not a valid key
[21:07] <topyli> meh, alt+space is easy enough i suppose, just need to unlearn my old instinct
[21:10] <izaki> Hi! I am installing the latest Kubuntu Beta (11.04 B2) and I am having problems on the last stage of the installation...
[21:10] <izaki> Grub installation crashes.
[21:10] <izaki> I chrooted on the /target and managed to make it boot..
[21:10] <izaki> But...
[21:11] <Daskreech> topyli: I think that it's a modifer key
[21:11] <izaki> Although in the Live-CD my 2cores work, suspend, etc, on the installed Kubuntu all is failing (only one core, noapic, nolapic)
[21:11] <izaki> Anyone with similar experience (I already reported the bug)
[21:11] <izaki> ??
[21:12] <topyli> Daskreech: normally it brings up the window menu or context menus, when relevant
[21:13] <Daskreech> izaki: Did you try any cheat codes?
[21:13] <topyli> in gnome it's valid for any other action too, which overrides the default. i though it was standard X stuff, but perhaps not then
[21:16] <izaki> Daskreech: noapic nolapic boots... But It freaks me out that everything works from the liveCD but not from the actual installation)
[21:17] <izaki> Daskreech: btw, it is a Macbook 5.2... It might be an EFI problem.
[21:17] <izaki> (There was one before)
[21:19] <Daskreech> !efi
[21:20] <Daskreech> Dumb robot
[21:20] <Daskreech> hi JontheEchidna
[21:20] <JontheEchidna> hello
[21:20] <Daskreech> izaki: I think the CD is a little less rigorious
[21:21] <Daskreech> Part of why it takes so long to boot is it is constantly testing things to see if they work and guessing as to what is right
[21:21] <Daskreech> A full install pretty much assumes that the computer is the same and boots up to that
[21:22] <Daskreech> AH!!! This site requires Google Chrome
[21:23] <Daskreech> I have Chromium! It's Google's Daddy. Let me in this stupid club treehouse!!!
[21:40] <LogicallyDashing> I keep turning off the ctrl+alt+v keybinding because I use it in emacs, and then when I restart, BAM the keybinding is back again. What's going on.
[21:40] <5EXACI2XF> hi =)
[21:41] <5EXACI2XF> im sitiing on kubuntu for a week and im soo happy =)
[21:41] <LogicallyDashing> :D
[21:45] <ubuntucook> can someone help me figure out where the kdm themer config file is located in kubuntu 10.10? i installed a theme on my system and it can't load it and now i can't log in
[21:46] <James147_> ubuntucook: switch to a virtual terminal (alt+f1), "sudo stop kdm" to stop kdm if its running then "startx" to start a gui session as your current user
[21:47] <James147_> ^^ then configure kdm as you would, logout and start kdm again (sudo start kdm)
[21:47] <ubuntucook> James147_: i think i tried that and it didn't work, but i'll try it again. thanks :)
[21:52] <ubuntucook> James147_: k gonna relog and try that now, thanks :)
[22:02] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: Where do you turn it off?
[22:02] <Daskreech> 5EXACI2XF: :)
[22:12] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: In Global Keyboard Shortcuts, under Plasma Desktop Shell.
[22:12] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: And it doesn't stick?
[22:16] <piroman> hello
[22:16] <piroman> i have A PROBLEM WITH MY VIEDO CARD
[22:17] <piroman> the system tells me he does not find any proprietary drivers
[22:19] <James147_> piroman: stating which card you have might help
[22:21] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: it seems to stick until I shut down
[22:21] <piroman> James147_: ati 5650
[22:25] <piroman> i have an ati 5650 and kubuntu does not find any proprietary drivers pls help
[22:31] <Daskreech> piroman: do you need them?
[22:31] <Daskreech> !fglrx
[22:31] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: what happens if you log out and back in?
[22:34] <NiTr0> hi)
[22:44] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: holdon
[22:46] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: I logged out and in. The keybinding came back again.
[22:48] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: There are two places you can set that I wonder if the other one is set
[22:48] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: where is otherplace?
[22:50] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: On klipper itself check that
[22:51] <LogicallyDashing> Daskreech: I looked in Klipper's settings window, into Keyboard Shortcuts, and there's nothing there about activating Klipper itself
[22:51] <LogicallyDashing> (nor bringing up the menu)
[22:55] <LogicallyDashing> So yeah, I think the problem is in Plasma. That's the component of Global Keyboard Shortcuts that this shortcut is in.
[22:59] <blueuser> hi guys.....can anyone tell me the default password for Ubuntu 10.10 when it's ran using a flash drive? I've installed it on a 4GB flash drive.
[22:59] <LogicallyDashing> there isn't one
[23:00] <LogicallyDashing> you can rootify yourself by calling sudo with no password
[23:00] <blueuser> oh ok....thank you
[23:00] <blueuser> i will try that in a bit....thanks a lot
[23:00] <LogicallyDashing> yw
[23:10] <Daskreech> LogicallyDashing: try ask in #plasma ?
[23:10] <Daskreech> !root | blueuser
[23:12] <blueuser> got it :) Thanks a lot!
[23:41] <aar> Hello, what is a good substitute of katapult?
[23:44] <Daskreech> aar: krunner?
[23:44] <Daskreech> or quicksand