[01:29] <LAcan> ok big newb question... where do i put stuff so it starts automatically when i login?
[01:30] <canllaith> Hrm I did look that up recently
[01:31] <canllaith> ahh ok
[01:31] <canllaith> you just need to put a freedesktop.org compliant .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[01:31] <canllaith> if that directory doesn't exist, create it
[01:32] <canllaith> the .desktop file is the shortcut for the app - if you don't know how to get it into that folder you could create one by hand using this as a guide
[01:32] <canllaith> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart
[01:33] <LAcan> would the shortcuts made by the context menu "Add to desktop" be 'startup' compliant?
[01:33] <canllaith> Yes, they should be
[01:33] <canllaith> So you sould be able to drag them to ~/.config/autostart
[01:33] <canllaith> you could always open them up in a text editor to see if they have [Desktop Entry] at the top to make sure
[01:34]  * canllaith installs lxde on her work machine so she can actually check these things
[01:34] <LAcan> yep they do and awesome
[01:35] <LAcan> how can i automount my ntfs volume on startup?
[01:35] <LAcan> btw canllaith u r my hero
[01:36] <canllaith> heh
[01:36] <canllaith> Is now the point where I should confess I've never used lubuntu?
[01:36] <LAcan> is it called a symbollic link and should i just google it?
[01:36] <canllaith> No, there are two possible ways of doing it. One is using guil-level stuff through HAL
[01:37] <canllaith> and one is by editing your fstab. Imma just look up whether lubuntu can let you access it through HAL
[01:37] <canllaith> as the latter is kinda gribbly
[01:37] <LAcan> lol, whats the easiets most fool proof way
[01:37] <canllaith> one moment caller :)
[01:37] <LAcan> yes mam!
[01:38] <canllaith> If you plug in a USB stick, does it automatically pop up for you to be able to access it?
[01:38] <canllaith> (This just lets me know if we can do this the easy way)
[01:40] <LAcan> one sec
[01:42] <LAcan> ok they dont pop up but i see them in /media
[01:42] <LAcan> they are mounted
[01:42] <canllaith> ok that's cool, you definitely have working HAL then :)
[01:43] <LAcan> ya im just as happy and surprised about that as you are, lol
[01:43] <canllaith> Ok, next question :)
[01:43] <canllaith> If you get at the command line and type 'cat /etc/fstab' can you see your NTFS partition in there anywhere?
[01:43] <canllaith> You'll need to know what /dev/sdXX number it is - if you don't know that we can figure that out too
[01:44] <canllaith> but there's a specific issue with *buntu based systems that this might be, and if so it's an easy fix :)
[01:44] <LAcan> not it doesnt
[01:44] <LAcan> but its sda1
[01:45] <canllaith> ok, and it's definitely not in your fstab anywhere?
[01:45] <LAcan> no only my ext2 volume shows up in there
[01:45] <canllaith> Ok cool, so that isn't the issue
[01:45] <canllaith> Next question!
[01:45] <canllaith> dpkg -l | grep ntfs
[01:45] <LAcan> lol its still the same one for me
[01:46] <canllaith> Does that come up with some ntfs-3g packages?
[01:46] <LAcan> i want to make shortucts to folders
[01:46] <canllaith> Is the problem that you can't access your NTFS drive at all ?
[01:46] <LAcan> no
[01:46] <LAcan> basically
[01:46] <canllaith> ahhhhhh
[01:46] <LAcan> i can access it fine, if i click the filemanager and then the "System" bokmark
[01:46] <canllaith> right
[01:46] <LAcan> i think it mounts it when i do that
[01:47] <LAcan> but before doing that i cant use it
[01:47] <LAcan> so id like to automount it
[01:47] <canllaith> I see.
[01:49] <canllaith> Hrm.
[01:58] <LAcan> like i find articles on how to do it ubuntu but i dont have some of these administration prorams
[02:03] <LAcan> helllloo mountmanager
[02:09] <LAcan> brb
[04:12] <LAcan> exit
[04:30] <LAcan> guys, how can i tu desktop?get rid of openbox without getting rid of ldxe or lubun
[14:17] <leszek> hi
[14:20] <MrChrisDruif> Hai leszek
[19:04] <mark76> Cuteness overload! http://i.imgur.com/vBBR3.png
[19:04] <bioterror> awwww
[19:05] <bioterror> but I can tell you a secret
[19:05] <bioterror> cats are from the deep
[19:05] <bioterror> :D
[19:08] <mark76> So when's 11.04 out?
[19:08] <bioterror> later this month :D
[19:08] <bioterror> you have 12 days to choose from
[19:08] <bioterror> otherwise we are going to use lubuntu 11.05 :D
[19:18] <mark76> It will be 11.05 if you don't get a shift on
[20:51] <LAcan> canllaith, you here helpful one?
[21:48] <bonny_> hi how do i install java
[21:49] <bonny_> how do i install java
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> synaptic > search: sun-java (if I'm not mistaken)
[21:50] <bonny_> ok
[21:50] <bonny_> how can i add it to the repositories
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> It's in the repos if I'm not mistaken
[21:51] <bioterror> enable partner repository
[21:51] <bonny_> how do i enable partner repository
[21:51] <bioterror> explore your synaptic
[21:52] <bioterror> or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:53] <bonny_> thnx does anyone know of any distros that can work on sort of old computers
[21:53] <bonny_> like lubuntu
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> bonny_: Lubuntu? ;)
[21:54] <bonny_> lol
[21:54] <bonny_> something else than lubuntu
[21:54] <bonny_> ill be right back
[21:55] <MrChrisDruif> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lightweight+linux+distro ;)
[21:57] <bonny> how do i install adobe flash player
[21:59] <bonny> nvm i figured out
[22:04] <ericy> bonny:  Did you find java runtime environment (JRE), such as: "sun-java6-bin"   Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6
[22:06] <bonny> its ok and hey ericy i figured it out on ubuntu forums
[22:07] <ericy> bonny:  Hello, again. Did you try to install Ubuntu, yet?
[22:07] <bonny> yes i did
[22:07] <bonny> but its kinda of slow so i  unistalled it
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> Hehe
[22:08] <bonny> bonny@bonny-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:08] <bonny> Reading package lists... Done
[22:08] <bonny> Building dependency tree
[22:08] <bonny> Reading state information... Done
[22:08] <bonny> Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:08] <bonny> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:08] <bonny> is only available from another source
[22:08] <bonny> E: Package sun-java6-jdk has no installation candidate
[22:08] <bonny> srry for pasting it here
[22:08] <bonny> but thats what it said
[22:09] <MrChrisDruif> bonny: next time try http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <bonny> srry
[22:09] <bonny> but what should i do
[22:09] <ericy> (It really is a beautiful display, but after two years of Ubuntu, I really like the speed of Lubuntu.)
[22:09] <bonny> it has no installation candidate i need to add to the repos how do i ?
[22:10] <ericy> Are you running an old intel cpu, like maybe a 80386
[22:12] <bonny> i have done this before and someone showed me how to add them to the repos but i unistalled lubuntu for ubuntu then i installed lubuntu back so i need to reinstall everything
[22:17] <bonny> HELLO!!!
[22:17] <bonny> can someone please ell me how to add java to the repositories
[22:42] <ericy> (It's 04:40 AM, time for bed. Bye.)
[23:08] <gnewb> What?
[23:09] <deithrian> Hello
[23:09] <deithrian> The requested URL /~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha2.iso was not found on this server.
[23:09] <deithrian> where can i download beta 2 please? o-o
[23:09] <gnewb> Where is the http:// part?
[23:09] <gnewb> Or are you using CLI?
[23:09] <deithrian> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha2.iso
[23:10] <gnewb> I got same thing: This us the alternate>http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/
[23:11] <deithrian> weird
[23:11] <gnewb> Natty is B1 on that.
[23:11] <deithrian> i can't see beta 2 there
[23:11] <deithrian> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lubuntu+11.04&aq=f&aqi=g5g-m1g-bs1&aql=&oq=
[23:12] <deithrian> it says released
[23:12] <deithrian> oh wait
[23:13] <deithrian> thats alpha
[23:13] <deithrian> gosh i', blind haha
[23:13] <MrChrisDruif> deithrian: beta 2 has to be released
[23:13] <deithrian> MrChrisDruif will beta 2 Lubuntu be released soon? or i can just install beta 1 and update?
[23:13] <MrChrisDruif> I have no access to the website, but on the wiki it's all up to date to beta 1
[23:14] <MrChrisDruif> Both ;)
[23:14] <deithrian> well ok then i guess i will go with beta 1 and update :)
[23:14] <deithrian> thanks
[23:14] <MrChrisDruif> The planning was tomorrow afaik for release of beta 2, I haven't heard of an delay so we will probably be on time
[23:15] <MrChrisDruif> And beta 1 with updates => beta 2
[23:15] <deithrian> :)
[23:15] <deithrian> I have no time for this i will install beta 1 and try to make it work and update and it will be tomorrow haha
[23:15] <gnewb> And here: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[23:16] <deithrian> is Lubuntu better integrated then Xubuntu?
[23:16] <deithrian> with pulse and alsa and nvidia?
[23:17] <MrChrisDruif> gnewb: ¿What is with that link?
[23:17] <gnewb> They all seem to work here, but I use three lightweights, and Puppy for testing on this box.
[23:18] <gnewb> MrChrisDruif: That was straight from the LXDE sight.
[23:19] <gnewb> From here:> http://lxde.org/ I selected Ubuntu, was taken to that wiki.
[23:27] <gnewb> MrChrisDruif: Ouch, now I see what you meant.
[23:27] <MrChrisDruif> gnewb: I was wondering what you meant with the link :)
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> Any how, the testing page of Lubuntu on the wiki is up to date, and can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> It's all about the testing release, which currently is Natty
[23:29] <deithrian> Thank you :)
[23:29] <deithrian> time to reboot and hopefully boot from the USB
[23:29] <MrChrisDruif> Good luck deithrian
[23:29] <gnewb> MrChrosDruif: Was just helping out deithrian, next time I will read the page with MUCH more caution, it is the link or /href> from lxde.org, now I see the lubuntu.net one.
[23:32] <gnewb> I need to work on my boat now, have a great time and Thank you.
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> gnewb: Good going, but like I said the website it out-of-date afaik. Our head of admin which has control over the site has some issues and is unavailable afaik. But the wiki is fully accessible, so we can update that. Hence the wiki is up-to-date
[23:35]  * MrChrisDruif ALOHA! Off to bed
[23:56] <deithrian> Hello again :)
[23:56] <deithrian> I have a question about the netwrok manager
[23:57] <deithrian> on Ubuntu when i setup a new DSL connection it doesn't ask for "Keyring" or something
[23:57] <deithrian> i created one such connection and then deleted it
[23:57] <deithrian> then i made a new one and i selected avaliable fro all users
[23:57] <deithrian> and it asked only for root password
[23:57] <deithrian> did i do wrong selecting all users?
[23:58] <deithrian> Or on Ubuntu is preselected and i didn't notice it?! o-o