[00:00] hey [00:01] anyone tried making a grub installation on a cd? [00:01] I'd like to do that so that I can boot off of pcmcia/cf [00:18] cf? [00:21] UbuntuN00b: Compact Flash [00:21] i was working on that [00:21] yes? [00:21] caus i have an aspire one so the sd slot is not bootable [00:21] as its pci [00:22] i have read forums that its possible but [00:22] i think you need to boot to a linux distro on the maine drive then boot to flash [00:22] as grub does not have a kernal [00:22] it can only see what your bios does [00:22] but i'm a n00b [00:23] so don't just take my word for it [00:23] thats what i wanted to do because my internal drive is only 8gb [00:23] bought a class 10 40gb sd card [00:26] supposebly this guy got it working [00:26] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-981951.html [03:37] I'm having trouble using my new external DVD drive, can someone help me out? [03:37] Zacer: do those look kinda like records? [03:37] its been a while ;) [03:38] * holstein totally kidding [03:38] Zacer: plug it in [03:38] its USB right? [03:38] it's plugged in, and yes usb [03:38] and open a terminal [03:38] run in the terminal [03:38] lspci [03:38] and lsusb [03:38] and see if you see the device listed there [03:38] and let me plug the LG dvd burner i have here in [03:38] and see where it shows up :) [03:39] yeah [03:39] Bus 001 Device 008: ID 152e:2507 LG (HLDS) [03:39] ^ i think thats it [03:39] in lsusb [03:43] I don't think I see it there. this is what showed up [03:43] nathan@Sheldon:~$ lsusb [03:43] Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub [03:43] Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub [03:43] Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub [03:43] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub [03:43] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e3:0701 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter [03:43] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera [03:43] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [03:44] i dont think so either [03:44] *use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for pasting multiple lines in the future :) [03:44] Zacer: what is it? [03:44] what brand/model [03:44] do you still have the reciept? [03:45] have you tried it with another machine/os? [03:45] should be a philips CDRW/DVD CDD5263. and yes, I tried it on a windows machine and it worked fine [03:47] when I open Disk Utility, it shows up along side my other drives, but I am unable to access it through any programs [03:47] what shows up in disc utility? [03:47] whatever DVD you have? [03:48] no, just the name of the drive, which is the model number I posted earlier [03:49] what happens when you put a DVD/CD in? [03:49] nothing? [03:49] yeah. the drive itself spins it as if it will start to read it, but the computer shows no response. I figured that the autostart just wasn't compatible on ubuntu [03:50] i found your thread ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720195 [03:50] and thats it [03:50] :/ [03:50] yeah :/ [03:50] nah [03:50] autostart for what? [03:50] try different discs [03:50] if you have an autostarting windows disc [03:50] that wont start [03:51] when I put it on the windows machine, it started playing immediately. It's just a generic movie DVD [03:52] relavant? [03:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/585524 [03:52] Launchpad bug 585524 in linux "Cant play Audio CD's in Lucid" [Undecided,Invalid] [03:53] or [03:53] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702925 [03:58] hmm, that first one is the same model, but unlike his, mine doesn't show up in my Computer alongside my other devices [04:00] Zacer: sometimes a kernel update can fix that [04:00] have you upgraded? [04:00] upgraded or updated? [04:00] well, whatever you kids are calling it [04:00] getting new packages :) [04:01] haha. yes, I have gone through the updates whenever update manager brings them up, but I will check again now for any new updates [04:01] Zacer: thats odd [04:01] seems so much like a hardware problem [04:02] im sure youve tried other USB ports [04:02] yeah, but it has worked on another machine. I actually haven't, I'll do that now [04:03] but if the USB is known to be good [04:03] who knows [04:03] that sux i know [04:03] Zacer: i would be interested to see if the thing works with any newer or older kernels [04:03] usually the easiest way for me to do that [04:03] is get live ISO's [04:04] you can make live USB sticks of lucid and natty [04:04] and try them [04:04] IF you just get bored :) [04:04] hmm, I think I might try that. they're still available for download, right? [04:05] yeah [04:05] you can probably get hardy still [04:05] lucid'll be around for a while though [04:05] and natty has a different kernel version too [04:05] which would you suggest in general? [04:06] well, as kind of a last ditch trouble-shooting setp [04:06] step( [04:06] i usually try the last LTS [04:06] and the newest one [04:06] Zacer: try natty [04:07] then you can at least see natty [04:07] and you'll get that out of the experience if nothing else [04:07] Zacer: if it does happen to work [04:07] note the kernel version [04:08] should be able to get that device working with 10.10 [04:43] is there a way to install amd radeon 6850 drivers on ubuntu [04:47] Jygen, propietary drivers [04:57] there isnt a sudo command for it [04:57] ubuntu isnt detecting my card at all [04:58] Jygen: usually you'll get a pop-up about restricted drivers [04:59] check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1637644 [04:59] well ive googled it [04:59] and people have gotten the same card i have to work [04:59] and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [04:59] but i cant figure out how they did it [04:59] thanks [04:59] sure [05:00] Jygen: its working in some capacity right? [05:00] just no 3d? [05:00] i had a 92something [05:00] 9250 maybe [05:00] i didnt get 3d going on it [05:00] anyways, good luck :) [05:01] search around for bug reports [05:01] im not lookin for 3d just better display [05:01] but thanks [05:01] -D [05:01] =D [05:01] thoughs usually have really good explanations and directions [05:01] does this work on 10.04 also [05:01] or just 10.10 [05:02] i would try them all [05:02] its an easy way to try different kernel versions [05:03] alright [05:03] try them live [05:14] this is kinda hard to figure out but i think i got it [05:14] just gotta install some stuff [05:14] completely new to linux btw [05:14] thats why im having trouble with this [05:27] finally [05:27] i have to download build essentials i guess [05:30] hey holstein [05:31] any idea why i would get this in the terminal [05:31] desktop:~$ sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run [05:31] sh: Can't open ./ati-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run [05:31] Jygen: maybe its not there [05:32] let the path auto complete [05:32] with tab [05:32] and you'll know you are asking for something thats there [05:45] i give up [05:45] i cant get the driver to install [05:45] Jygen: with? [05:46] what driver? [05:46] 6850 radeon [05:46] right [05:46] where did you get it? [05:46] there should be one in the repos [05:46] that'll work [05:46] if not [05:46] there should be directions in the download [05:46] whats the issue? [05:46] ubuntus not detecting my graphics card [05:46] and i cant get it to work [05:47] well, ubuntu is [05:47] you have a desktop [05:47] amd is not supplying you a driver [05:47] to use with ubuntu [05:47] BUT [05:47] thats a story for another day [05:47] Jygen: whats the error message? [05:47] no error message [05:47] Jygen: OK [05:47] when i go to hardware drivers [05:47] whats the issue [05:47] nothing appears [05:48] when you are trying to install the driver [05:48] oh [05:48] it just keeps saying command not found [05:48] what command? [05:48] did you use autocomplete like i suggested? [05:48] you can also just find the .sh file [05:48] 2 sh ./ati-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run [05:48] and drag it over in the terminal [05:49] the .run file [05:49] open the gnome terminal [05:49] and drag it over [05:49] i tried that to [05:49] and the complete path will complete [05:49] Jygen: whats the error then? [05:50] check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage [05:52] thanks [05:52] that worked [05:52] Jygen: :) [05:52] idk why i couldnt find that online at all [05:52] Jygen: theres no shortage of ubuntu wiki pages [05:53] i was checking forums trying to find people who had similar problems [05:53] can be challenging to search for the proper one though [05:54] what can i do about the fact that when i go to my hardware drivers [05:54] it doesnt display my graphics card [05:54] Jygen: what hardware drivers? [05:54] umm [05:54] im not sure where you are looking [05:54] open a terminal [05:54] run [05:54] lscpi [05:54] OOPS [05:54] lspci [05:54] you'll see the device there [05:54] system>administrations>hardwaredrivers [05:55] Jygen: you'll see restricted drivers show up there [05:55] if you downloaded [05:55] and installed [05:55] a relavant driver [05:55] thats it [05:55] you dont have to do there [05:55] go* [05:56] i actually think its isntalled now [05:56] cool [05:56] you'll find out [05:56] it shows the ati driver [05:56] you should need to restart for that [05:56] im gonna reboot my system real quick and ill come back and let you know if my graphics card is working properly [05:57] Jygen: good luck [06:04] didnt work [06:04] Jygen: :/ [06:04] it says the reason its not working [06:04] Jygen: did it make you a custom xorg.conf? [06:04] is because the driver itself is not installed [06:04] but the software for the driver is installed [06:04] Jygen: maybe the driver isnt loaded [06:04] maybe [06:04] you might need a custom xorg.conf [06:05] thats what im thinking [06:05] ubuntu doesnt really use that anymore [06:05] but, if one is there [06:05] i read something about a custom xorg [06:05] it'll use it [06:05] im using a few actually [06:05] hmm [06:05] with ubuntu 10.04 [06:05] how would i go about uninstalling the .run file i just installed [06:06] well, you dont need to [06:06] but there should be directions in it [06:06] maybe an unistall script [06:06] i believe i have the custom xorg but it also installs the same software i just installed [06:06] i wouldnt worry about it though [06:07] Jygen: the xorg shouldnt install anything [06:07] you should just put in there [06:07] in /etc/X11 [06:07] and it'll just do its thing [06:07] BUT, make sure you know how to go in with a live CD [06:07] and undo it :) [06:07] if you dont get any video at all* [06:09] wait [06:09] put that in terminal? [06:09] put what in terminal? [06:09] you gotta make the xorg file [06:10] and put it in /etc/X11 [06:10] i got no idea how to make the xorg file [06:10] Jygen: do you have one? [06:10] that you grabbed from somewhere? [06:10] thought i did [06:10] you can use gedit [06:10] but appearently i dotn [06:10] gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:10] and paste it in [06:10] BUT, again [06:11] have a backup plan [06:11] you go in from a live CD [06:11] and rename that file [06:11] /etc/X11/xorg.cong.didntwork [06:11] or whatever [06:11] and you can boot again [06:11] like you are now [06:11] and try something else [06:13] i still think my problem is the fact that [06:13] when i first installed ubuntu [06:13] and went to my hardware drivers [06:13] it didnt have any proprietary drivers for me to activate [06:14] right [06:14] which probably means that there are none [06:14] but, if you found one, thats great [06:14] im using 10.04 [06:14] and sometimes there are some older cards like that that fall through the cracks [06:14] Jygen: doesnt matter [06:14] when i installed 10.10 it was able to detect my proprietary drivers [06:14] almost always [06:15] IF there is a proprietary driver availalbe [06:15] it'll tell you about it [06:15] any my cards not that old [06:15] and* [06:15] a 62xx? [06:15] 68xx [06:15] well, whatever [06:15] 6850 [06:15] why not just use 10.10 then? [06:16] the disc i have is curropted [06:16] so when i installed it it seemed to work [06:16] but when i shut my computer off and rebooted it nothing showed up [06:16] you can dist-upgrade [06:16] if you think that will help [06:17] how would i go about doing that [06:17] Jygen: a proprietary driver showed up? [06:17] in 10.10? [06:17] and installed? [06:17] what driver? [06:17] you should be able to access that driver [06:17] in lucid [06:17] Jygen: you have upgraded lucid? [06:17] no [06:18] was gonna do that after i got my driver working [06:18] i would do it first [06:18] might trigger something needed [06:19] alright [06:19] gotta do something :) [06:19] cant just sit there waiting on it [06:20] that card is newer than i though [06:20] i was thinking the old cards [06:20] i would say going forward would help [06:20] maybe just download ubuntu 11.04 [06:20] and install that :) [06:20] lol theres 409 updates [06:20] and i got nothing to do but sit and wait [06:20] hmm [06:21] 11.04 [06:21] i installed 10.04 [06:21] on my EEE1001 [06:21] couldnt i just upgrade to 10.10 [06:21] and sound and wifi didnt work [06:21] then upgrade to 11.04 [06:21] i updated the packages [06:21] and everything worked :) [06:21] Jygen: upgrading takes 4ever [06:21] and you have a fresh install right? [06:21] you dont have any data to preserve [06:22] best case on a dist upgrade, maybe a couple hours [06:22] installs take like 15 minutes now [06:22] but, do what you want [06:22] id have to go burn a 11.04 disk [06:22] yeah [06:22] download it [06:22] and burn it [06:23] discs are cheap now [06:23] how big of a disk would i need [06:23] go for it [06:23] a CD [06:23] i have a few 700mb disks laying around [06:23] just a normal CD [06:23] but are those big enough [06:23] should be [06:23] that means i gotta go boot up in windows [06:23] burn a disk [06:24] and come back [06:24] dont have to [06:24] you can DL it right there [06:24] and burn it :) [06:24] this computer cant burn cds [06:24] xD [06:24] its a work in progress [06:24] sounds like fun :) [06:25] anyways, im out [06:25] Jygen: good luck [06:25] alright [06:25] thanks [06:25] you'll get it sorted out :) [06:28] 10.10 new wubi install says wireless is disabled. where do i enable it? [06:32] i've installed drivers recommended by the additional drivers app. rebooted setup ssid etc but still no go [06:37] CannonFodda: what wireless chipset? [06:39] forgotten how to check. got a million pages open [06:39] driver is broadcom sta wireless driver [06:40] seidos: driver is broadcom sta wireless driver [06:42] i'm not sure how to find exact details though === CannonFodda_ is now known as CannonFodda [06:46] seidos: sorry rebooted modem forgot it made the internet work ;) [06:48] CannonFodda: you might try searching google for your specific broadcom chipset + ubuntu + wubi [06:48] CannonFodda: i've never used wubi, but ndiswrapper may work with your chipset if there is no native linux driver [06:49] is it just the driver that disables the hardware? [06:49] it says the driver is activated??? [06:50] CannonFodda: you need to make sure the right driver for your chipset is loaded === yofel_ is now known as yofel [06:50] CannonFodda: at least, that's what i would do [06:51] seidos: how can i interrogate the hardware to check what chipset it is? [06:52] CannonFodda: you can do lspci and sudo lshw [06:53] seidos: broadcom corp bcm4312 [06:54] this is the installed driver [06:54] sorry [06:54] chipset & driver match === mapuck is now known as Puck` [07:19] CannonFodda: sorry went afk [07:26] seidos: it appears that i have the correct wireles driver [07:27] CannonFodda: i am researching wubi. can you try a live cd? or live usb? [07:27] CannonFodda: did you see this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614562 ? [07:30] seidos: thanks i'll check that out [07:35] i don't suppose anyone here has Euphloria working via wine? [07:54] !wine | UbuntuN00b [07:54] UbuntuN00b: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [07:55] yeah i been checking the forms [07:56] Alright, well if anyone knows, it would be them :) [07:56]