[00:04] jcastro, [00:29] cjohnston: sure thing, first can i borrow a ski mask and some bolt cutters? [00:30] oh wait, you just want service don't you [00:30] in that case, ski mask is optional [00:37] lol [00:56] * mhall119 is starting an new hobby webapp [00:56] https://launchpad.net/readfeeder [00:56] and by "hobby" I mean something for the wife's work [01:04] Technoviking: around? [01:50] Grrr - my computer locks up with every update I install...:-( [01:53] * paultag hugs akgraner [01:54] paultag, back at ya! Hope you have no permanent injury or lasting effects from that second hand sound you are having to endure! [01:54] akgraner: dude, it's slowly building up my inner rage [01:55] * Pendulum hugs paultag [01:55] akgraner: this guy must be just deaf [01:55] his music is so loud it's carrying over the whole room [01:55] * paultag hugs Pendulum [01:55] and it's just noise, gah :P [01:56] #firstworldproblems [01:58] I swear i'm about to throw this kid out of the lab [01:59] paultag, go up to him and start dancing...with your thumbs pointed up like it's cool...see if you can get some others to join in :-) [02:00] akgraner: damn you! My cover's blown, he saw me laughing and looking at him [02:00] haha [02:01] well that is one way to do it... [02:01] akgraner: aye! :) [02:01] I wish I had my tactical Netbook [02:01] I'd sit next to him and play music over it's speakers [02:01] did he turn his music down? [02:01] akgraner: a bit, aye, but not nearly enough to not be rude [02:02] I like the dancing idea [02:02] See if you can get everyone in the lab to sing and dance with you... [02:02] not a bad idea... [02:02] flash mob time! [02:03] or ask everyone to go up to him and tell him how much they like his choice of music [02:03] hehehehehe [02:03] I wonder if I can find him on twitter and get a whole bunch of my friends to tweet at him [02:03] nah, that's lame [02:03] dancing is much better [02:04] I just gave him the thumbs up. It went /okay/ [02:04] oh do the Carlton Dance and sing tom jones songs [02:04] he just looked away [02:04] YES! I *love* the carlton dance! [02:04] I do that at parties [02:04] and linux Fests right? [02:04] duh! [02:05] Pete just walked into my office then walked out mumbling something about me building my own empire .... [02:06] yes! [02:06] hahaha [02:06] I asked him to knock on my imaginary "Les Nessman" door next time and wait to be invited in... [02:06] I can't repeat what he said to that [02:07] haha [02:07] hahahaha [02:07] yeah it's a laugh a minute :-/ [02:08] akgraner: ya know we love you [02:08] I hate my typing class, gah [02:08] Today: Flyers in Comic Sans, (with word art!!!!!!1111!!) [02:08] someone kill me, please [02:09] please [02:09] paultag, sending you hugs and noise canceling headphones [02:09] akgraner: you have no idea how welcome that is right now [02:09] and a clue bat...to give to someone [02:09] aye! [02:10] one more month [02:10] that's it. all I have to do, then school's out forever [02:10] you should make your own count down banner to sanity and reason! [02:11] hummmmmmm! [02:12] just sayin' at least you would be able to smile when you see it... [02:12] you know when you're running, and you've been running for like 4 miles, and you're just beat to crap, but you have one more to go? I'm feeling that right now [02:12] I'm so happy I don't have another 2 miles to go, that's all I'm ganna say :) [02:13] :-) you'll catch your second wind I am sure.... [02:13] :) [02:14] gotta go..have a great evening! Catch you all tomorrow - thinking about Jono's new meme thing... [02:16] night akgraner [02:24] akgraner, :-) [02:34] jono has a new meme? [02:34] wait, jono had an old meme? [02:38] * mhall119 clearly has gotten behind on his rss reading [04:22] jcastro: what is up [04:33] dude, I need to write up a promo piece [04:33] turns out the cleveland clinic (a huge (HUGE) hospital system) uses Ubuntu on their tablets that they give to incoming folks [04:34] I was talking with them about how to better manage them, but it's rad they do it. [05:05] paultag: that's awesome [05:08] paultag: \o/ [05:59] paultag: thanks for reviewing gaurav_pawaskar's package today. [08:01] good morning [08:02] hi dholbach [08:03] hi nigelb [08:18] good morning all [08:25] 'lo dpm [08:25] hey duanedesign :) [08:26] the closer we get to uds the sadder i am i could not go. *sigh* [08:26] just make me appreciate it in October that much more :) [09:06] morning all [09:06] heya kim [09:06] erm kim0 [09:06] :P [09:06] hey :) [09:30] morning nigelb kim0 === daker_ is now known as daker [10:24] *whee* new laptop \o/ [10:43] nigelb: what did you get? [10:44] jussi: a dell inspiron (for work) [10:44] Need to install Ubuntu on it tonight \o/ [10:44] bwahaha [10:45] jussi: which bit is lolworthy? [11:36] cool nigelb [11:37] duanedesign: :) [11:37] pleia2, popey, Technoviking: CC meeting in 23m? [11:41] JFo: still stuck without sleep huh? [11:42] yup [11:54] nigelb, yep [11:55] morning all [11:55] * nigelb hugs JFo [11:55] hello Technoviking [11:55] thanks nigelb [11:56] JFo: did you plot invading jono? :-P [11:57] I have, we are planning and plotting and scheming [11:57] dholbach: I'm here, green elf needs caffeine badly:) [11:57] mosly just the Sand Fran./San Jose area [11:57] Technoviking, wizard is about to diiie [11:57] heh [11:57] * JFo loved Gauntlet :) [11:58] Wizard needs food, badly! [11:58] * popey notes "Green elf" implies Gauntlet II [11:58] [11:59] NERD!!! [11:59] :) [11:59] * popey collects old arcade games :D [12:12] duanedesign: np [12:17] *cough* -offtopic *cough* place for everything and anything :P [12:19] nigelb: no.... [13:39] nigelb: how's whiskey tango foxtrot going? [13:39] paultag: roadblocked at work :) [13:39] fixing a fscking shell script :P [13:39] nigelb: righto [14:06] morning [14:06] moin [14:06] hey mhall119 [14:16] http://arshaw.com/fullcalendar/ would be nice to integrate with summit [14:25] AlanBell: integrate how? [14:27] replacing the scary bits in the schedule [14:27] bit of a big job though [14:29] AlanBell: ours drags and drops already [14:29] we just have to toggle it for certain people [14:29] I know [14:31] anyhow, I just thought it looked kind of nice. How is the Etherpad server coming on? [14:34] ooh, yes, this I want to know also [14:41] what the... [14:41] jcastro assigned me a bug? [14:42] *facepalm* yes, why didn't I see this earlier :( [14:42] I did? [14:43] yeah, I knew of it. Just fell of my list [15:40] dpm, nice post [15:41] dholbach, cool, glad you liked it, thanks :) [15:43] ping kim0 [15:43] Ronnie: hey [15:43] kim0: im making progress on the maps.ubuntu.com ... [15:44] a lot of it is working already [15:44] Ronnie: woohoo :) [15:44] now i need some toughts about the content of the different marker types [15:44] Ronnie: I know I havent been able to help much .. hope it's going good [15:45] Ronnie: we should be able to add/del new marker types thru django admin UI right [15:45] right [15:45] what should be nice (optional) information that could be shown for the "Ubuntu User" and "Ubuntu Server", any ideas? [15:46] Ronnie: I had added some info to the wiki page a few days ago .. not sure if you had seen those [15:46] i've seen the first comments you did [15:46] yeah they are those [15:46] then csenger added some more [15:47] i agreed on all of them, and developed the code with that ideas in mind [15:48] Ronnie: Maybe for user: name, pic, url [15:48] perhaps with a text field for notes [15:48] nothing that allows html or scripts ..etc [15:48] for each marker, there is an "Title, Content(which is different for each marker type), an url for more info, and the ability to add tags [15:49] the content should be a dictionary with fields, which should be rendered by template (at least thats my tought) [15:49] and what's Content(user) and Content(server) [15:50] the attributes of that content i haven't thought of yet [15:51] for the server, we could have: Ubuntu Version, .... [15:51] Ronnie: uptime, function (maybe multiple select) [15:51] so people can brag about uptime on a global scale :) [15:52] uptime is hard, because that needs to be updates each second ;) [15:52] hehe [15:52] hmm [15:52] jono: hey [15:52] Type of server, "webserver, mailserver, proxy, fileserver" [15:53] hey all [15:53] hey kim0 [15:53] Ronnie: yeah something like that .. with possibly custom at the end [15:53] indeed [15:53] does anybody know how lp:summit is deployed in production? mod_wsgi, I'd guess? [15:55] any more ideas for the server content? [15:56] Ronnie: let's get a version running first, then we can collect more creative feedback from a wider audience .. shouldn't be too hard to add optional fields later I hope [15:57] Ronnie: thanks for the great work man :) [15:57] kim0: i want to use a dictionary + template, so if we update the template, more dictionary_keys we can use. So it should be really easy ;) [15:57] jcastro: do we know who is providing a server for etherpad to be tested/deployed on? Is it Canonical IS or the cloud team or someone else? [15:58] Ronnie: sounds really good [15:58] I am not sure who is doing what [15:58] AlanBell: I think kirkland should know [15:58] ooh, a recipe for nobody doing anything :( [15:58] AlanBell: I am swamped with scheduling unfortunately [15:59] kim0: feel free to add additional marker types and paramters: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mapuntu/API#Marker%20Types [15:59] * kim0 nods [16:00] kim0: im also creating a server .py script, that ask the information interactively, so it should be easy to add the marker [16:00] * kim0 hugs Ronnie :) [16:01] sounds awesome [16:01] * AlanBell goes to find kirkland [16:02] dpm, about set? === maco2 is now known as maco [16:03] jono, yep! [17:02] alright my friends - I call it a day [17:02] see you all tomorrow! [17:09] jussi: here's the list of rooms btw: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/ [17:10] jussi: I'll have the remote participation page made today [17:10] jcastro, go you! [17:10] ok, calling it a day here too... [17:11] have a nice rest of the day and see you tomorrow! [17:19] jcastro: nice, Ill get those sorted soon. [17:41] bah, how can ftp be so crap. [17:42] jussi: uploading file by file? [17:42] (it is crap that way) [17:42] I suggest uploading a zipped file and unzipping on server (if you have permissions to do so) [17:42] nigelb: how is better? [17:42] no, I cant. [17:43] Ive only got ftp access, no cli [17:43] jono: I'm working with the Ubuntu-HU folks to do some night tourism on wednesday and thursday, how do we get things up on http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ ? do you anticipate more sponsors doing events that may conflict? [17:43] jussi: no recursive file upload. [17:43] (or if there is someone else I can ask, please let me know :)) [17:43] pleia2, jcastro can help get that content up [17:44] pleia2, as for social events, I believe there is Mon, Tue and Fri night things [17:44] pleia2: send me a mail with all the info [17:44] jcastro: ok, once we get all the details I'll let you know, thanks! [17:53] pleia2: is the blind dinner on there yet? [17:53] (as an optional social event) [17:53] Pendulum: I suggested it to Hanji to get some details (location & neighborhood, whether there are other things in the area we can do that evening) [17:54] ok [17:54] cool :) [17:54] (I just noticed the interest on the accessibility blog :) ) [17:54] *Hajni [17:54] cool [17:54] I'd like to try it, especially after kirkland blogged about his experience [18:12] if anyone has come across good hosting that is also environmentally friendly (and really is, not just says they are), please let me know. [18:13] jussi: what kinda hosting are you looking for ? [18:14] czajkows1i: web hosting - joomla site probably. [18:14] jussi: I alwways pimp blacknight.com [18:14] friendly and fast and good prices [18:16] but how environmentally friendly are they? [18:17] I don't know [18:17] ask them [18:17] :) [18:17] not being smart [18:17] :) [18:17] fair enough === daker is now known as daker_ [18:18] its annoying, as I googled a fair bit, but its hard when you havent heard of companies. [18:19] jussi: you might do carbon offset separately [18:19] hrm [18:20] I was looking at one of these: http://www.aiso.net/general-hosting-plans.html (but Ive never heard of them) [18:21] hetzner.de are working well for us at the moment === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [18:23] AlanBell: friend's hetzner died all of a sudden last week for a few hours :\ [18:23] we have two hardward boxes [18:23] hardware [18:24] the big one is a core i7 980ex with 24GB ram [18:24] oh, ok. these were vps [18:25] we run KVM on them and have a bunch of chunky VMs [18:25] naice [18:31] jussi: I'm not sure how eco-friendly Google's current cloud hosting is, but I have heard about them running test data centers that used natural cooling or other power-saving techniques [18:32] mhall119: ooh, sounds interesting [18:32] I like the look of that asio.net, but they do sound expensive. [18:32] also, a2hosting looks interesting [18:35] jcastro: kirkland and elmo seem to have confirmed they will be running an etherpad server for uds [18:35] jussi: if facebook ever goes like amazon and hires out their dataceners, just fyi, facebook is eco friendly [18:35] AlanBell: yay! [18:35] AlanBell: \o/ [18:35] Daviey: mhall119: how should I store the etherpad URL such that it is a summit preference somewhere? [18:35] * czajkowski kicks the wiki [18:35] AlanBell: thanks for puhsing this [18:35] stop giving me an error when I change things [18:35] >:( [18:36] AlanBell: there is a url thingy on the blueprint, that's what jcastro suggested earlier [18:36] czajkowski: 22:19 < jono> AlanBell, I have followed to up with IS to see what is going on with the wiki work [18:36] AlanBell: in settings.py [18:37] nigelb: yeah, but that was daft :) [18:37] AlanBell: ah cool [18:37] AlanBell: heh [18:37] mhall119: do we plan on generating etherpad urls? [18:37] mhall119: cool, I will do that later [18:37] (inside summit itself) [18:37] nigelb: that bit is solved [18:37] just need to store the server URL [18:38] AlanBell: oh, great :) [18:38] nigelb: my summit modification, links on the schedule http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/2011-04-14/ to pages like this: http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ [18:38] nigelb: I gather that's the plan, yes [18:38] last UDS IS told us that etherpad wouldn't scale enough to be used for summits, but I guess they've changed their mind (or had it changed for them) [18:38] mhall119: well, AlanBell already wrote the code, so I guess I got my answer :p [18:39] mhall119: kirkland said, if it fails we can always fallback to gobby [18:39] or was it elmo [18:39] elmo said they will do both [18:39] both simultaneously? [18:39] anyone want to take bets on which will fall over [18:39] both [18:39] mhall119: both servers will be turned on [18:40] AlanBell: ah, ok [18:40] AlanBell: what are the odds? even? [18:40] but hopefully only one will be used [18:40] (the irony of that sentence is making me smile :P) [18:40] AlanBell: if gobby is not used, it going down is not something that we'll notice [18:43] mhall119: do you know how often the icals are updated? [18:44] I think its like rss, immediate. [18:44] jcastro: which icals? [18:44] the ones Summit provides? [18:44] yeah [18:44] every time you request it [18:45] barring caches [18:45] but I don't think anything is caching them [18:49] jono: you about my dear ? [18:49] czajkowski, yup [18:49] you free for a 2 min pm ? [18:59] mhall119: also in summit, how do I assign crew? [18:59] iirc we added a field for crew? [19:02] paultag: this sounds like someone you might know http://i.imgur.com/PTQOa.jpg [19:03] :-P [19:04] yay, ETHERPAD_HOST added to settings.py [19:06] so what do you really want in the header of a meeting page? like this: http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ [19:09] at the moment I have title-room, timeslot, description, links to wiki and blueprint, attendees (which could get big and I am not sure has value) and a QR code to the wiki url of the meeting [19:09] is there any value in having a QR code to any of the various options? [19:09] are there things to trim, or things to add based on stuff that is available in summit? [19:16] jcastro: in the admin, you have to mark attendees as "willing to be crew", then you can assign them to specific days [19:17] AlanBell: would the qrcode to the wiki really be useful? [19:18] I think that is doubtful [19:18] my original concept was that the QR code would link to the meeting page URL itself and would be printed on the paper stuck to the door [19:18] mhall119: oh ok, I see [19:19] however it has been pointed out that the number of devices that can actually scan a QR code and use etherpad is kind of small [19:29] mhall119: oh I see, is that what the crew field is in the admin interface? [19:32] mhall119: oooh, got it! [19:32] jcastro: yeah, Crew records link attendees to days [19:32] mhall119: dude this is awesome! [19:32] :) [19:35] mhall119: ok so in the future [19:35] when the applicant checks "willing to be crew" [19:35] the box will be autoselected? [19:35] jcastro: we can do that, yes [19:35] but it's not currently implemented [19:36] * jcastro nods [19:36] this is still 38497593845% better than the wiki way [19:36] that's a big improvement [19:36] unless the wiki way was zero [19:36] yeah, zero [19:36] :) [19:37] so 38497593845% of 0 better.. awesome! [19:37] jcastro: also, the openid-follow-renames code will be in django-openid-auth trunk soon, so we can start to put that into action for summit [19:37] Daviey: ^^ [19:37] what's that in english? [19:38] we can enable summit such that if someone changes their nick in launchpad, their django username is updated to match [19:39] also, we can enforce that the user has an lp profile, so we don't get anymore openiduser#### usernames [19:39] ooh nice! [19:42] mhall119: the crew being listed on the day paige is sweet [19:43] you say that now, wait until everyone knows to make you work [19:43] haha [19:43] mhall119: +1 [19:44] jcastro loves me, I get to crew twice \o/ [19:44] :p [19:44] nigelb: gotta earn your keep [19:44] heh [19:45] mhall119: thats the whole point [19:45] any crew schedule where cjohnston is not crewing is unfair :P [19:48] mhall119: It might need packaging up.. [19:48] jcastro: is crew set to where it can be put on the wiki page as well? [19:48] Daviey: achuni has already said it'll be built and put in the ISD PPA [19:49] mhall119: ok, cool - it might be a good idea to raise an RT to get that rolled out as soon as it is in the PPA then. [19:49] mhall119: fancy taking that [ACTION]? [19:50] Daviey: sure [19:50] surely we'll have a summit session at UDS? [19:51] nobody has drafted a blueprint yet. [19:52] can I? [19:52] no [19:53] nah [19:53] oh wait [19:57] nigelb: where is crew listed [19:58] Technoviking: top of each day's schedule [19:58] Technoviking: You need to do an SQL dump... :) [19:58] haha [19:59] Daviey: need more SQL fiber first:) [19:59] heh [20:03] pleia2, vish & nigelb: I won't be going to UDS this year. Hope you all have a good time. [20:04] Daviey: if I manually schedule a session will the jumbler touch it when you run it? [20:04] * nigelb hugs doctormo [20:04] ha ha, ew [20:04] doctormo: hugs! thanks :) [20:06] jcastro: i believe so. [20:06] jcastro: do you need to create adhoc sessions atm? [20:06] I would like to yes [20:06] jono: I'd like to get our roundtables out of the way and schedule them now if that's ok [20:06] jcastro, yes please [20:06] pick the same room for each one if possible [20:06] but if not, no worries [20:07] I'll do that [20:07] because I need to test the colors [20:07] Daviey: did someone do the colors? [20:07] jcastro: okay.. we need a nice form for adhoc sessions.. it is really ugly people using the admin ui for it. [20:07] I dont think colors have been done yet [20:07] jcastro: i haven't seen the change land, so assume no. [20:08] can someone do the colors before thursday? [20:08] Daviey: ill get on the colors thing... [20:08] jcastro: patches welcome :) [20:08] lol [20:08] Daviey: how are the tracks defined for this? are they by slug or ...? [20:08] I would love it if they did it by name [20:09] because people always forget to select the track in the UI [20:09] haha, "congratulations/applogies" [20:10] cjohnston: the trackfix management script should convert names into the correct track objects. [20:10] *but* trackfix needs updating for the new track names. [20:10] ok.. and thats what i looked at yesterday, and I don't understand how it works or whats broken [20:10] ok, my attendee list now works, with links to launchpad profiles and required attendees are in bold. I dropped the QR code. [20:11] anything else to change in the header or does it look OK? http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ [20:11] jcastro: i see that some sessions have already been scheduled... note that they autoscheduler will not attempt to move manually scheduled sessions.. [20:12] So people shouldn't schedule stuff to 'help' [20:12] Daviey: perfect, thanks [20:13] Daviey: sorry I had to schedule them asap, linaro has some special needs [20:13] AlanBell: lgtm, but how well does it scale with say 30 attendees? [20:13]