[00:04] <Daviey> jcastro,
[00:29] <mhall119> cjohnston: sure thing, first can i borrow a ski mask and some bolt cutters?
[00:30] <mhall119> oh wait, you just want service don't you
[00:30] <mhall119> in that case, ski mask is optional
[00:37] <cjohnston> lol
[00:56]  * mhall119 is starting an new hobby webapp
[00:56] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/readfeeder
[00:56] <mhall119> and by "hobby" I mean something for the wife's work
[01:04] <jcastro> Technoviking: around?
[01:50] <akgraner> Grrr - my computer locks up with every update I install...:-(
[01:53]  * paultag hugs akgraner 
[01:54] <akgraner> paultag, back at ya!  Hope you have no permanent injury or lasting effects from that second hand sound you are having to endure!
[01:54] <paultag> akgraner: dude, it's slowly building up my inner rage
[01:55]  * Pendulum hugs paultag 
[01:55] <paultag> akgraner: this guy must be just deaf
[01:55] <paultag> his music is so loud it's carrying over the whole room
[01:55]  * paultag hugs Pendulum 
[01:55] <paultag> and it's just noise, gah :P
[01:56] <paultag> #firstworldproblems
[01:58] <paultag> I swear i'm about to throw this kid out of the lab
[01:59] <akgraner> paultag, go up to him and start dancing...with your thumbs pointed up like it's cool...see if you can get some others to join in :-)
[02:00] <paultag> akgraner: damn you! My cover's blown, he saw me laughing and looking at him
[02:00] <akgraner> haha
[02:01] <akgraner> well that is one way to do it...
[02:01] <paultag> akgraner: aye! :)
[02:01] <paultag> I wish I had my tactical Netbook
[02:01] <paultag> I'd sit next to him and play music over it's speakers
[02:01] <akgraner> did he turn his music down?
[02:01] <paultag> akgraner: a bit, aye, but not nearly enough to not be rude
[02:02] <Pendulum> I like the dancing idea
[02:02] <akgraner> See if you can get everyone in the lab to sing and dance with you...
[02:02] <paultag> not a bad idea...
[02:02] <Pendulum> flash mob time!
[02:03] <akgraner> or ask everyone to go up to him and tell him how much they like his choice of music
[02:03] <paultag> hehehehehe
[02:03] <paultag> I wonder if I can find him on twitter and get a whole bunch of my friends to tweet at him
[02:03] <paultag> nah, that's lame
[02:03] <paultag> dancing is much better
[02:04] <paultag> I just gave him the thumbs up. It went /okay/
[02:04] <akgraner> oh do the Carlton Dance and sing tom jones songs
[02:04] <paultag> he just looked away
[02:04] <paultag> YES! I *love* the carlton dance!
[02:04] <paultag> I do that at parties
[02:04] <akgraner> and linux Fests right?
[02:04] <paultag> duh!
[02:05] <akgraner> Pete just walked into my office then walked out mumbling something about me building my own empire ....
[02:06] <akgraner> yes!
[02:06] <paultag> hahaha
[02:06] <akgraner> I asked him to knock on my imaginary "Les Nessman" door next time and wait to be invited in...
[02:06] <akgraner> I can't repeat what he said to that
[02:07] <Pendulum> haha
[02:07] <paultag> hahahaha
[02:07] <akgraner> yeah it's a laugh a minute :-/
[02:08] <Pendulum> akgraner: ya know we love you
[02:08] <paultag> I hate my typing class, gah
[02:08] <paultag> Today: Flyers in Comic Sans, (with word art!!!!!!1111!!)
[02:08] <paultag> someone kill me, please
[02:09] <paultag> please
[02:09] <akgraner> paultag, sending you hugs and noise canceling headphones
[02:09] <paultag> akgraner: you have no idea how welcome that is right now
[02:09] <akgraner> and a clue bat...to give to someone
[02:09] <paultag> aye!
[02:10] <paultag> one more month
[02:10] <paultag> that's it. all I have to do, then school's out forever
[02:10] <akgraner> you should make your own count down banner to sanity and reason!
[02:11] <paultag> hummmmmmm!
[02:12] <akgraner> just sayin' at least you would be able to smile when you see it...
[02:12] <paultag> you know when you're running, and you've been running for like 4 miles, and you're just beat to crap, but you have one more to go? I'm feeling that right now
[02:12] <paultag> I'm so happy I don't have another 2 miles to go, that's all I'm ganna say :)
[02:13] <akgraner> :-)  you'll catch your second wind I am sure....
[02:13] <paultag> :)
[02:14] <akgraner> gotta go..have a great evening!  Catch you all tomorrow - thinking about Jono's new meme thing...
[02:16] <paultag> night akgraner
[02:24] <jono> akgraner, :-)
[02:34] <mhall119> jono has a new meme?
[02:34] <mhall119> wait, jono had an old meme?
[02:38]  * mhall119 clearly has gotten behind on his rss reading
[04:22] <Technoviking> jcastro: what is up
[04:33] <paultag> dude, I need to write up a promo piece
[04:33] <paultag> turns out the cleveland clinic (a huge (HUGE) hospital system) uses Ubuntu on their tablets that they give to incoming folks
[04:34] <paultag> I was talking with them about how to better manage them, but it's rad they do it.
[05:05] <mhall119> paultag: that's awesome
[05:08] <nigelb> paultag: \o/
[05:59] <duanedesign> paultag: thanks for reviewing gaurav_pawaskar's package today.
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:02] <nigelb> hi dholbach
[08:03] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:18] <dpm> good morning all
[08:25] <duanedesign> 'lo dpm
[08:25] <dpm> hey duanedesign :)
[08:26] <duanedesign> the closer we get to uds the sadder i am i could not go. *sigh*
[08:26] <duanedesign> just make me appreciate it in October that much more :)
[09:06] <kim0> morning all
[09:06] <nigelb> heya kim
[09:06] <nigelb> erm kim0
[09:06] <nigelb> :P
[09:06] <kim0> hey :)
[09:30] <duanedesign> morning nigelb kim0
[10:24] <nigelb> *whee* new laptop \o/
[10:43] <jussi> nigelb: what did you get?
[10:44] <nigelb> jussi: a dell inspiron (for work)
[10:44] <nigelb> Need to install Ubuntu on it tonight \o/
[10:44] <jussi> bwahaha
[10:45] <nigelb> jussi: which bit is lolworthy?
[11:36] <duanedesign> cool nigelb
[11:37] <nigelb> duanedesign: :)
[11:37] <dholbach> pleia2, popey, Technoviking: CC meeting in 23m?
[11:41] <nigelb> JFo: still stuck without sleep huh?
[11:42] <popey> yup
[11:54] <JFo> nigelb, yep
[11:55] <Technoviking> morning all
[11:55]  * nigelb hugs JFo 
[11:55] <nigelb> hello Technoviking
[11:55] <JFo> thanks nigelb
[11:56] <nigelb> JFo: did you plot invading jono? :-P
[11:57] <JFo> I have, we are planning and plotting and scheming
[11:57] <Technoviking> dholbach: I'm here, green elf needs caffeine badly:)
[11:57] <JFo> mosly just the Sand Fran./San Jose area
[11:57] <JFo> Technoviking, wizard is about to diiie
[11:57] <Technoviking> heh
[11:57]  * JFo loved Gauntlet :)
[11:58] <popey> Wizard needs food, badly!
[11:58]  * popey notes "Green elf" implies Gauntlet II
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[11:59] <Technoviking> NERD!!!
[11:59] <popey> :)
[11:59]  * popey collects old arcade games :D
[12:12] <paultag> duanedesign: np
[12:17] <nigelb> *cough* -offtopic *cough* place for everything and anything :P
[12:19] <jussi> nigelb: no....
[13:39] <paultag> nigelb: how's whiskey tango foxtrot going?
[13:39] <nigelb> paultag: roadblocked at work :)
[13:39] <nigelb> fixing a fscking shell script :P
[13:39] <paultag> nigelb: righto
[14:06] <mhall119> morning
[14:06] <paultag> moin
[14:06] <nigelb> hey mhall119
[14:16] <AlanBell> http://arshaw.com/fullcalendar/ would be nice to integrate with summit
[14:25] <mhall119> AlanBell: integrate how?
[14:27] <AlanBell> replacing the scary bits in the schedule
[14:27] <AlanBell> bit of a big job though
[14:29] <jcastro> AlanBell: ours drags and drops already
[14:29] <jcastro> we just have to toggle it for certain people
[14:29] <AlanBell> I know
[14:31] <AlanBell> anyhow, I just thought it looked kind of nice. How is the Etherpad server coming on?
[14:34] <jussi> ooh, yes, this I want to know also
[14:41] <nigelb> what the...
[14:41] <nigelb> jcastro assigned me a bug?
[14:42] <nigelb> *facepalm* yes, why didn't I see this earlier :(
[14:42] <jcastro> I did?
[14:43] <nigelb> yeah, I knew of it. Just fell of my list
[15:40] <dholbach> dpm,  nice post
[15:41] <dpm> dholbach, cool, glad you liked it, thanks :)
[15:43] <Ronnie> ping kim0
[15:43] <kim0> Ronnie: hey
[15:43] <Ronnie> kim0: im making progress on the maps.ubuntu.com ...
[15:44] <Ronnie> a lot of it is working already
[15:44] <kim0> Ronnie: woohoo :)
[15:44] <Ronnie> now i need some toughts about the content of the different marker types
[15:44] <kim0> Ronnie: I know I havent been able to help much .. hope it's going good
[15:45] <kim0> Ronnie: we should be able to add/del new marker types thru django admin UI right
[15:45] <Ronnie> right
[15:45] <Ronnie> what should be nice (optional) information that could be shown for the "Ubuntu User" and "Ubuntu Server", any ideas?
[15:46] <kim0> Ronnie: I had added some info to the wiki page a few days ago .. not sure if you had seen those
[15:46] <Ronnie> i've seen the first comments you did
[15:46] <kim0> yeah they are those
[15:46] <Ronnie> then csenger added some more
[15:47] <Ronnie> i agreed on all of them, and developed the code with that ideas in mind
[15:48] <kim0> Ronnie: Maybe for user: name, pic, url
[15:48] <kim0> perhaps with a text field for notes
[15:48] <kim0> nothing that allows html or scripts ..etc
[15:48] <Ronnie> for each marker, there is an "Title, Content(which is different for each marker type), an url for more info, and the ability to add tags
[15:49] <Ronnie> the content should be a dictionary with fields, which should be rendered by template (at least thats my tought)
[15:49] <kim0> and what's Content(user) and Content(server)
[15:50] <Ronnie> the attributes of that content i haven't thought of yet
[15:51] <Ronnie> for the server, we could have: Ubuntu Version, ....
[15:51] <kim0> Ronnie: uptime, function (maybe multiple select)
[15:51] <kim0> so people can brag about uptime on a global scale :)
[15:52] <Ronnie> uptime is hard, because that needs to be updates each second ;)
[15:52] <kim0> hehe
[15:52] <kim0> hmm
[15:52] <kim0> jono: hey
[15:52] <Ronnie> Type of server, "webserver, mailserver, proxy, fileserver"
[15:53] <jono> hey all
[15:53] <jono> hey kim0
[15:53] <kim0> Ronnie: yeah something like that .. with possibly custom at the end
[15:53] <Ronnie> indeed
[15:53] <salgado> does anybody know how lp:summit is deployed in production? mod_wsgi, I'd guess?
[15:55] <Ronnie> any more ideas for the server content?
[15:56] <kim0> Ronnie: let's get a version running first, then we can collect more creative feedback from a wider audience .. shouldn't be too hard to add optional fields later I hope
[15:57] <kim0> Ronnie: thanks for the great work man :)
[15:57] <Ronnie> kim0: i want to use a dictionary + template, so if we update the template, more dictionary_keys we can use. So it should be really easy ;)
[15:57] <AlanBell> jcastro: do we know who is providing a server for etherpad to be tested/deployed on? Is it Canonical IS or the cloud team or someone else?
[15:58] <kim0> Ronnie: sounds really good
[15:58] <jcastro> I am not sure who is doing what
[15:58] <jcastro> AlanBell: I think kirkland should know
[15:58] <AlanBell> ooh, a recipe for nobody doing anything :(
[15:58] <jcastro> AlanBell: I am swamped with scheduling unfortunately
[15:59] <Ronnie> kim0: feel free to add additional marker types and paramters: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mapuntu/API#Marker%20Types
[15:59]  * kim0 nods
[16:00] <Ronnie> kim0: im also creating a server .py script, that ask the information interactively, so it should be easy to add the marker
[16:00]  * kim0 hugs Ronnie :)
[16:01] <kim0> sounds awesome
[16:01]  * AlanBell goes to find kirkland
[16:02] <jono> dpm, about set?
[16:03] <dpm> jono, yep!
[17:02] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:02] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:09] <jcastro> jussi: here's the list of rooms btw: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/
[17:10] <jcastro> jussi: I'll have the remote participation page made today
[17:10] <akgraner> jcastro, go you!
[17:10] <dpm> ok, calling it a day here too...
[17:11] <dpm> have a nice rest of the day and see you tomorrow!
[17:19] <jussi> jcastro: nice, Ill get those sorted soon.
[17:41] <jussi> bah, how can ftp be so crap.
[17:42] <nigelb> jussi: uploading file by file?
[17:42] <nigelb> (it is crap that way)
[17:42] <nigelb> I suggest uploading a zipped file and unzipping on server (if you have permissions to do so)
[17:42] <jussi> nigelb: how is better?
[17:42] <jussi> no, I cant.
[17:43] <jussi> Ive only got ftp access, no cli
[17:43] <pleia2> jono: I'm working with the Ubuntu-HU folks to do some night tourism on wednesday and thursday, how do we get things up on http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ ? do you anticipate more sponsors doing events that may conflict?
[17:43] <nigelb> jussi: no recursive file upload.
[17:43] <pleia2> (or if there is someone else I can ask, please let me know :))
[17:43] <jono> pleia2, jcastro can help get that content up
[17:44] <jono> pleia2, as for social events, I believe there is Mon, Tue and Fri night things
[17:44] <jcastro> pleia2: send me a mail with all the info
[17:44] <pleia2> jcastro: ok, once we get all the details I'll let you know, thanks!
[17:53] <Pendulum> pleia2: is the blind dinner on there yet?
[17:53] <Pendulum> (as an optional social event)
[17:53] <pleia2> Pendulum: I suggested it to Hanji to get some details (location & neighborhood, whether there are other things in the area we can do that evening)
[17:54] <Pendulum> ok
[17:54] <Pendulum> cool :)
[17:54] <Pendulum> (I just noticed the interest on the accessibility blog :) )
[17:54] <pleia2> *Hajni
[17:54] <pleia2> cool
[17:54] <nigelb> I'd like to try it, especially after kirkland blogged about his experience
[18:12] <jussi> if anyone has come across good hosting that is also environmentally friendly (and really is, not just says they are), please let me know.
[18:13] <czajkows1i> jussi: what kinda hosting are you looking for ?
[18:14] <jussi> czajkows1i: web hosting - joomla site probably.
[18:14] <czajkows1i> jussi: I alwways pimp blacknight.com
[18:14] <czajkows1i> friendly and fast and good prices
[18:16] <jussi> but how environmentally friendly are they?
[18:17] <czajkows1i> I don't know
[18:17] <czajkows1i> ask them
[18:17] <czajkows1i> :)
[18:17] <czajkows1i> not being smart
[18:17] <jussi> :)
[18:17] <jussi> fair enough
[18:18] <jussi> its annoying, as I googled a fair bit, but its hard when you havent heard of companies.
[18:19] <AlanBell> jussi: you might do carbon offset separately
[18:19] <jussi> hrm
[18:20] <jussi> I was looking at one of these: http://www.aiso.net/general-hosting-plans.html (but Ive never heard of them)
[18:21] <AlanBell> hetzner.de are working well for us at the moment
[18:23] <nigelb> AlanBell: friend's hetzner died all of a sudden last week for a few hours :\
[18:23] <AlanBell> we have two hardward boxes
[18:23] <AlanBell> hardware
[18:24] <AlanBell> the big one is a core i7 980ex with 24GB ram
[18:24] <nigelb> oh, ok. these were vps
[18:25] <AlanBell> we run KVM on them and have a bunch of chunky VMs
[18:25] <nigelb> naice
[18:31] <mhall119> jussi: I'm not sure how eco-friendly Google's current cloud hosting is, but I have heard about them running test data centers that used natural cooling or other power-saving techniques
[18:32] <jussi> mhall119: ooh, sounds interesting
[18:32] <jussi> I like the look of that asio.net, but they do sound expensive.
[18:32] <jussi> also, a2hosting looks interesting
[18:35] <AlanBell> jcastro: kirkland and elmo seem to have confirmed they will be running an etherpad server for uds
[18:35] <nigelb> jussi: if facebook ever goes like amazon and hires out their dataceners, just fyi, facebook is eco friendly
[18:35] <jussi> AlanBell: yay!
[18:35] <nigelb> AlanBell: \o/
[18:35] <AlanBell> Daviey: mhall119: how should I store the etherpad URL such that it is a summit preference somewhere?
[18:35]  * czajkowski kicks the wiki 
[18:35] <nigelb> AlanBell: thanks for puhsing this
[18:35] <czajkowski> stop giving me an error when I change things
[18:35] <czajkowski> >:(
[18:36] <nigelb> AlanBell: there is a url thingy on the blueprint, that's what jcastro suggested earlier
[18:36] <AlanBell> czajkowski: 22:19 < jono> AlanBell, I have followed to up with IS to see what is going on with the wiki work
[18:36] <mhall119> AlanBell: in settings.py
[18:37] <AlanBell> nigelb: yeah, but that was daft :)
[18:37] <czajkowski> AlanBell: ah cool
[18:37] <nigelb> AlanBell: heh
[18:37] <nigelb> mhall119: do we plan on generating etherpad urls?
[18:37] <AlanBell> mhall119: cool, I will do that later
[18:37] <nigelb> (inside summit itself)
[18:37] <AlanBell> nigelb: that bit is solved
[18:37] <AlanBell> just need to store the server URL
[18:38] <nigelb> AlanBell: oh, great :)
[18:38] <AlanBell> nigelb: my summit modification, links on the schedule http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/2011-04-14/ to pages like this: http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/
[18:38] <mhall119> nigelb: I gather that's the plan, yes
[18:38] <mhall119> last UDS IS told us that etherpad wouldn't scale enough to be used for summits, but I guess they've changed their mind (or had it changed for them)
[18:38] <nigelb> mhall119: well, AlanBell already wrote the code, so I guess I got my answer :p
[18:39] <nigelb> mhall119: kirkland said, if it fails we can always fallback to gobby
[18:39] <nigelb> or was it elmo
[18:39] <AlanBell> elmo said they will do both
[18:39] <mhall119> both simultaneously?
[18:39] <AlanBell> anyone want to take bets on which will fall over
[18:39] <mhall119> both
[18:39] <AlanBell> mhall119: both servers will be turned on
[18:40] <mhall119> AlanBell: ah, ok
[18:40] <nigelb> AlanBell: what are the odds? even?
[18:40] <AlanBell> but hopefully only one will be used
[18:40] <nigelb> (the irony of that sentence is making me smile :P)
[18:40] <nigelb> AlanBell: if gobby is not used, it going down is not something that we'll notice
[18:43] <jcastro> mhall119: do you know how often the icals are updated?
[18:44] <nigelb> I think its like rss, immediate.
[18:44] <mhall119> jcastro: which icals?
[18:44] <mhall119> the ones Summit provides?
[18:44] <jcastro> yeah
[18:44] <mhall119> every time you request it
[18:45] <mhall119> barring caches
[18:45] <mhall119> but I don't think anything is caching them
[18:49] <czajkowski> jono: you about my dear ?
[18:49] <jono> czajkowski, yup
[18:49] <czajkowski> you free for a 2 min pm ?
[18:59] <jcastro> mhall119: also in summit, how do I assign crew?
[18:59] <jcastro> iirc we added a field for crew?
[19:02] <nigelb> paultag: this sounds like someone you might know http://i.imgur.com/PTQOa.jpg
[19:03] <nigelb> :-P
[19:04] <AlanBell> yay, ETHERPAD_HOST added to settings.py
[19:06] <AlanBell> so what do you really want in the header of a meeting page? like this: http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/
[19:09] <AlanBell> at the moment I have title-room, timeslot, description, links to wiki and blueprint, attendees (which could get big and I am not sure has value) and a QR code to the wiki url of the meeting
[19:09] <AlanBell> is there any value in having a QR code to any of the various options?
[19:09] <AlanBell> are there things to trim, or things to add based on stuff that is available in summit?
[19:16] <mhall119> jcastro: in the admin, you have to mark attendees as "willing to be crew", then you can assign them to specific days
[19:17] <mhall119> AlanBell: would the qrcode to the wiki really be useful?
[19:18] <AlanBell> I think that is doubtful
[19:18] <AlanBell> my original concept was that the QR code would link to the meeting page URL itself and would be printed on the paper stuck to the door
[19:18] <jcastro> mhall119: oh ok, I see
[19:19] <AlanBell> however it has been pointed out that the number of devices that can actually scan a QR code and use etherpad is kind of small
[19:29] <jcastro> mhall119: oh I see, is that what the crew field is in the admin interface?
[19:32] <jcastro> mhall119: oooh, got it!
[19:32] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, Crew records link attendees to days
[19:32] <jcastro> mhall119: dude this is awesome!
[19:32] <mhall119> :)
[19:35] <jcastro> mhall119: ok so in the future
[19:35] <jcastro> when the applicant checks "willing to be crew"
[19:35] <jcastro> the box will be autoselected?
[19:35] <mhall119> jcastro: we can do that, yes
[19:35] <mhall119> but it's not currently implemented
[19:36]  * jcastro nods
[19:36] <jcastro> this is still 38497593845% better than the wiki way
[19:36] <mhall119> that's a big improvement
[19:36] <mhall119> unless the wiki way was zero
[19:36] <jcastro> yeah, zero
[19:36] <jcastro> :)
[19:37] <Daviey> so 38497593845% of 0 better.. awesome!
[19:37] <mhall119> jcastro: also, the openid-follow-renames code will be in django-openid-auth trunk soon, so we can start to put that into action for summit
[19:37] <mhall119> Daviey: ^^
[19:37] <jcastro> what's that in english?
[19:38] <mhall119> we can enable summit such that if someone changes their nick in launchpad, their django username is updated to match
[19:39] <mhall119> also, we can enforce that the user has an lp profile, so we don't get anymore openiduser#### usernames
[19:39] <jcastro> ooh nice!
[19:42] <cjohnston> mhall119: the crew being listed on the day paige is sweet
[19:43] <mhall119> you say that now, wait until everyone knows to make you work
[19:43] <nigelb> haha
[19:43] <nigelb> mhall119: +1
[19:44] <nigelb> jcastro loves me, I get to crew twice \o/
[19:44] <nigelb> :p
[19:44] <mhall119> nigelb: gotta earn your keep
[19:44] <nigelb> heh
[19:45] <cjohnston> mhall119: thats the whole point
[19:45] <nigelb> any crew schedule where cjohnston is not crewing is unfair :P
[19:48] <Daviey> mhall119: It might need packaging up..
[19:48] <cjohnston> jcastro: is crew set to where it can be put on the wiki page as well?
[19:48] <mhall119> Daviey: achuni has already said it'll be built and put in the ISD PPA
[19:49] <Daviey> mhall119: ok, cool - it might be a good idea to raise an RT to get that rolled out as soon as it is in the PPA then.
[19:49] <Daviey> mhall119: fancy taking that [ACTION]?
[19:50] <mhall119> Daviey: sure
[19:50] <nigelb> surely we'll have a summit session at UDS?
[19:51] <Daviey> nobody has drafted a blueprint yet.
[19:52] <nigelb> can I?
[19:52] <cjohnston> no
[19:53] <Daviey> nah
[19:53] <Daviey> oh wait
[19:57] <Technoviking> nigelb: where is crew listed
[19:58] <nigelb> Technoviking: top of each day's schedule
[19:58] <Daviey> Technoviking: You need to do an SQL dump... :)
[19:58] <nigelb> haha
[19:59] <Technoviking> Daviey: need more SQL fiber first:)
[19:59] <Daviey> heh
[20:03] <doctormo> pleia2, vish & nigelb: I won't be going to UDS this year. Hope you all have a good time.
[20:04] <jcastro> Daviey: if I manually schedule a session will the jumbler touch it when you run it?
[20:04]  * nigelb hugs doctormo 
[20:04] <mhall119> ha ha, ew
[20:04] <pleia2> doctormo: hugs! thanks :)
[20:06] <Daviey> jcastro: i believe so.
[20:06] <Daviey> jcastro: do you need to create adhoc sessions atm?
[20:06] <jcastro> I would like to yes
[20:06] <jcastro> jono: I'd like to get our roundtables out of the way and schedule them now if that's ok
[20:06] <jono> jcastro, yes please
[20:06] <jono> pick the same room for each one if possible
[20:06] <jono> but if not, no worries
[20:07] <jcastro> I'll do that
[20:07] <jcastro> because I need to test the colors
[20:07] <jcastro> Daviey: did someone do the colors?
[20:07] <Daviey> jcastro: okay.. we need a nice form for adhoc sessions.. it is really ugly people using the admin ui for it.
[20:07] <cjohnston> I dont think colors have been done yet
[20:07] <Daviey> jcastro: i haven't seen the change land, so assume no.
[20:08] <jcastro> can someone do the colors before thursday?
[20:08] <cjohnston> Daviey: ill get on the colors thing...
[20:08] <Daviey> jcastro: patches welcome :)
[20:08] <cjohnston> lol
[20:08] <cjohnston> Daviey: how are the tracks defined for this? are they by slug or ...?
[20:08] <jcastro> I would love it if they did it by name
[20:09] <jcastro> because people always forget to select the track in the UI
[20:09] <nigelb> haha, "congratulations/applogies"
[20:10] <Daviey> cjohnston: the trackfix management script should convert names into the correct track objects.
[20:10] <Daviey> *but* trackfix needs updating for the new track names.
[20:10] <cjohnston> ok.. and thats what i looked at yesterday, and I don't understand how it works or whats broken
[20:10] <AlanBell> ok, my attendee list now works, with links to launchpad profiles and required attendees are in bold. I dropped the QR code.
[20:11] <AlanBell> anything else to change in the header or does it look OK? http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/
[20:11] <Daviey> jcastro: i see that some sessions have already been scheduled... note that they autoscheduler will not attempt to move manually scheduled sessions..
[20:12] <Daviey> So people shouldn't schedule stuff to 'help'
[20:12] <jcastro> Daviey: perfect, thanks
[20:13] <jcastro> Daviey: sorry I had to schedule them asap, linaro has some special needs
[20:13] <Daviey> AlanBell: lgtm, but how well does it scale with say 30 attendees?
[20:13] <cjohnston> i dont know that we would want an attendees list.. or atleast not up top
[20:13] <cjohnston> maybe at the bottom seperated by a ","
[20:14] <AlanBell> the UL would just get bigger
[20:14] <AlanBell> not sure quite how I can show you that without 30 people logging on to my server with openID
[20:14] <doctormo> pleia2: Are you certainly going to UDS in budapest? I need someone to take over tea duty.
[20:14] <jcastro> jono: ok, snagged Kazincy as our home room each day
[20:14] <Daviey> AlanBell: can you fake it with a for loop to test?
[20:14] <Daviey> add 60 AlanBells?
[20:14] <jcastro> so everyone remember "sounds like unabomber"
[20:15] <cjohnston> lol
[20:15] <AlanBell> Daviey: actually it would be great if a couple of people could log on
[20:15] <Daviey> AlanBell: fake it in the template
[20:15] <pleia2> doctormo: yes, flights booked
[20:15] <doctormo> Daviey: fake it in a static html page.
[20:15] <AlanBell> then I can make some required and some not required and I will double it up a few times in the template
[20:16] <Daviey> AlanBell: can i have a time share of the thread please ? :)
[20:16] <cjohnston> novacut?
[20:16] <AlanBell> runserver doesn't scale well does it!
[20:16] <Daviey> AlanBell, TemplateSyntaxError at /uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/
[20:16] <Daviey> 'datetime' is not a valid tag library: ImportError raised loading django.contrib.admin.templatetags.datetime: No module named datetime
[20:17] <cjohnston> jcastro: ^
[20:17] <jcastro> AlanBell: ok so clue me in a sec, this thing you're working is basically "click on the title and the notes will magically open up"
[20:17] <doctormo> pleia2: The requirements are fairly simple, just take over a handful of pg tips/yorkshire (I can send you some via mail if you like) and find out how the hotel does hot water. 103°C boiling water, not just 90°C coffee water. The find the people by wednesday who are dying for tea and help their poor souls.
[20:17] <pleia2> doctormo: can I take it through customs?
[20:17] <doctormo> pleia2: Sure,
[20:17] <doctormo> Budapest is in the EU right?
[20:17] <AlanBell> Daviey: fixed
[20:18] <jcastro> cjohnston: the crew on tuesday is the husband-wife novacut video editor team(tm)
[20:18] <AlanBell> jcastro: yes
[20:18] <jcastro> AlanBell: OMG.
[20:18] <jcastro> brilliant
[20:18] <cjohnston> gotcha
[20:18] <AlanBell> jcastro: or "click on a little icon next to the title" to be precise
[20:18] <AlanBell> jcastro: the magic is strong with this one
[20:18] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, they're part of the EU
[20:19] <pleia2> doctormo: how does one get 103C water, ask the hotel? :)
[20:19] <doctormo> pleia2: Yes, or if you're in the USA, bring an electric kettle because the hotel won't have anything that hot.
[20:19] <Daviey> pleia2: dig a deep hole
[20:19] <doctormo> But basically it's boiling water, hopefully not by microwave and you should be good.
[20:20] <nigelb> pleia2: Note, kettle might combust if you bring it from USA, voltage difference.
[20:20] <nigelb> ;)
[20:20] <pleia2> oh dear
[20:20] <doctormo> pleia2: Yes, US kettle won't actually work in the EU, voltage not high enough.
[20:20] <nigelb> other way around
[20:20] <doctormo> But it shouldn't catch fire nigelb!
[20:21] <nigelb> voltage not low enough
[20:21] <nigelb> doctormo: I was slightly exaggerating
[20:22] <pleia2> I am sure I can find one on amazon
[20:22] <pleia2> I'll figure out voltage stuff
[20:22] <AlanBell> Daviey: that is 30 of me
[20:22] <nigelb> You can get coverting things I think
[20:22] <pleia2> I have adapters, but not voltage adapters
[20:22] <AlanBell> two or three columns might be nicer
[20:22] <nigelb> anyay, I just realized its 1 am. Time to head to bed.
[20:22] <pleia2> night nigelb :)
[20:23] <nigelb> pleia2: let me see if I can pack one :)
[20:23] <doctormo> thanks for the hug nigelb
[20:23] <nigelb> If you can get convertor, I can get kettle
[20:23] <pleia2> nigelb: but by the time I know if you can come it'll be too late for me to order one :(
[20:23] <pleia2> I'll see what I can do
[20:23] <nigelb> pleia2: good point :(
[20:24] <pleia2> maybe one of the ubuntu-hu people can bring one
[20:24] <nigelb> psst, ask cjohnston :P
[20:24] <doctormo> pleia2: You know those guys! :-D
[20:24] <pleia2> he's from florida!
[20:24] <pleia2> doctormo: yes :)
[20:25] <pleia2> looks like budapest castle and "ruin pubs" (ruinpubs.com) will be on the ubuntu-hu night tourism list :D
[20:26] <Daviey> AlanBell, that is a little sucky IMO.
[20:26] <Daviey> AlanBell, I think comma sperated list at the footer would be better IMO.
[20:28] <jcastro> AlanBell: did you contact kirkland?
[20:28] <AlanBell> looks a bit crap as it is all me, variety would be good
[20:28] <Daviey> AlanBell, i did sign in
[20:29] <AlanBell> lots of us
[20:29]  * JFo is loopy
[20:29] <Daviey> AlanBell, The importiant thing on that page is the pad.. pushing it down the page is suboptimal IMO.
[20:29] <AlanBell> Daviey: I agree
[20:29] <AlanBell> jcastro: yes, and elmo in -devel
[20:30] <jcastro> oh rock and roll
[20:30] <jcastro> everything going ok?
[20:30] <jcastro> sorry I haven't been around today, slam city
[20:30] <Daviey> salgado, o/
[20:31]  * salgado waves
[20:32] <AlanBell> Daviey: how about now, comma separated at the top
[20:32] <mhall119> hey salgado
[20:32] <AlanBell> and yes, I will deal with the trailing comma
[20:32] <Daviey> AlanBell: yeah, i just reloaded.. that is better... can you repeat 30 times?
[20:33] <jcastro> AlanBell: question for you
[20:33] <jcastro> AlanBell: so how does it name the document?
[20:33] <AlanBell> repeated the loop 15 times, for 30 names
[20:33] <jcastro> it would be brilliant if it just took the blueprint name
[20:33] <AlanBell> http://padserver/{{ summit.name }}-{{ meeting.name }}?_theme=micro
[20:34] <AlanBell> so in this instance uds-o-full-of-awesome
[20:34] <jcastro> how flexible are you on that?
[20:34] <jcastro> we put the o in the blueprint already
[20:34] <jcastro> so we don't need the uds part
[20:34] <jcastro> so like
[20:34] <Daviey> jcastro, hang on...
[20:34] <jcastro> http://blah:/community-o-locodirectory-improvements
[20:34] <Daviey> the padserver won't be tied to UDS, right
[20:35] <jcastro> oh I see what you mean
[20:35] <Daviey> so having a convetion of ^uds-X .. is prtty clean IMO
[20:35] <jcastro> ok
[20:35] <AlanBell> I was worried about collsions between udses
[20:35] <AlanBell> e.g. community roundtable
[20:35] <jcastro> AlanBell: I make them put the letter in every blueprint
[20:36] <Daviey> uds-o-community-o-locodirectory-improvements <-- some replication, but 'pretty good' TM
[20:36] <AlanBell> even linaro ones, private meetings and other exceptions?
[20:36] <jcastro> oh you know what
[20:36] <Daviey> jcastro, TBH, people won't need to care about the blueprint url
[20:36] <jcastro> it doesn't matter
[20:36] <jcastro> we won't have to care about remembering the URL
[20:36] <AlanBell> indeed
[20:36] <jcastro> as long as I can click on it who cares
[20:36] <jcastro> right right
[20:36] <AlanBell> the summit schedule *is* the index
[20:36]  * jcastro says carry on awkwardly
[20:37] <jcastro> ok, so 2nd question
[20:37] <Daviey> "as you were soldiers"
[20:37] <cjohnston> WAIT.. he has another question
[20:37] <jcastro> is there a way to go "etherpad give me all the documents for uds-o on one page"
[20:37] <cjohnston> lol
[20:37] <Daviey> jcastro, Yes!
[20:37] <cjohnston> +1
[20:37] <Daviey> using tags :)
[20:37] <jcastro> DUDE
[20:37] <jcastro> so we can get rid of this "proceedings" crap
[20:37] <jcastro> and just tell everyone not at UDS "watch this page"
[20:38] <jcastro> jono: ^^^
[20:38] <Daviey> jcastro, private etherpad (PNE) allows a full index... but ACL is not suitable for our requirements ATM.  Therefore tags rock!
[20:38] <jcastro> anyone have an example URL of an etherpad doing tags?
[20:38] <jcastro> so I can see what it looks like?
[20:38] <Daviey> one mo
[20:38] <AlanBell> just type in a tag
[20:39] <Daviey> jcastro, http://pad.daviey.com/test
[20:39] <AlanBell> with a # so just type #awesome in a pad and that will be a link to all pads tagged with #awesome
[20:40] <jcastro> http://pad.daviey.com/ep/search?query=awesome
[20:40] <jcastro> ok so I pretty much love this
[20:40] <jcastro> ok and how do we tag the document
[20:40] <jcastro> just put #community in it?
[20:40] <AlanBell> yup
[20:40] <mhall119> AlanBell: can we pre-seed the pads with those tags?
[20:40] <AlanBell> ooh, jcastro you will like this bit . . .
[20:40] <jcastro> this is. AWESOME.
[20:41] <AlanBell> http://pad.daviey.com/ep/pad/view/test/latest
[20:41] <AlanBell> hit play
[20:41]  * jcastro nods
[20:41] <jcastro> seen this before
[20:42] <paultag> nigelb: hehehe, I saw that on reddit :)
[20:43] <AlanBell> mhall119: that could be done with a bit of etherpad hacking to take some tags off the querystring and use them to prepopulate new documents
[20:43] <Daviey> AlanBell, I *think* that is already supported
[20:43] <AlanBell> however I doubt we will be allowed to do that if they want a clean packaged etherpad server
[20:44] <AlanBell> orly? if you can find the syntax to prepopulate then I will totally make that happen
[20:44] <Daviey> AlanBell, I remember some discussion about it, but don't know if it landed
[20:44] <Daviey> AlanBell, "clean and packaged" means we can add patches as needed.
[20:47]  * AlanBell fixors trailing comma on names
[20:49] <Daviey> hmm
[20:49] <Daviey> maybe it didn't land
[20:52] <jono> jcastro, I don't think the proceedings are "crap"
[20:53] <jono> they provide a valuable summary of the event
[20:53] <jcastro> no no that's not what I meant
[20:53] <jono> and just showing notes is not enough - they need to be summarized
[20:53] <jcastro> I meant providing the index of the sessions
[20:53] <jcastro> oh  oh, I see what you mean
[20:53] <jcastro> oh dude, then let's do this
[20:53] <jcastro> I got it
[20:53] <jcastro> community-summary
[20:53] <jcastro> and tag it #community
[20:54] <jcastro> then you just live-update it throughout the day
[20:54] <jcastro> so instead of track leads having to do a huge summary at the end of each day
[20:54] <jcastro> you tell the people in the session "after each session, add a one line summary of your session to the summary notes"
[20:55] <jcastro> jono: does that make sense?
[20:55] <jcastro> like last time the track leads went person to person "hey I need like a quick summary of your sessions"
[20:55] <jono> jcastro, good idea, but I suspect few will use it in all the madness of UDs
[20:55] <jono> UDS
[20:55] <Daviey> jcastro, you can mix and match tags...
[20:55] <AlanBell> so . . . we need a link on the meeting page to pad.ubuntu.com/uds-o-track-day
[20:56] <jono> remember how we do that with wiki pages, but often the pages get left empty
[20:56] <jcastro> jono: right but this is way less mad, since we can put the links right on the summit page
[20:56] <Daviey> #summary and #uds-o and #community
[20:56] <jono> we could...do that and then ask the track leads to use that as content for the proceedings and to buff them up
[20:57] <jcastro> right, the reason people don't do it is because there's no easy way to go from the schedule to the wiki
[20:57] <Daviey> nigelb, !  How busy are you... ? :)
[20:57] <jcastro> but if we just put a link right next to the track
[20:57] <jcastro> since you have to go to that page every day
[20:57] <jcastro> for example:
[20:57] <jcastro> Daviey: check this out:
[20:57] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/
[20:57] <jcastro> see the By Track:
[20:58] <jcastro> it could be Community - (Summary)
[20:58] <jcastro> and summary is a link
[20:58] <jcastro> to community-o-summary
[20:59] <AlanBell> is it one summary per day or one summary per uds (for each track)
[20:59] <jcastro> per day per track
[20:59] <AlanBell> okies, on it
[20:59] <jcastro> "This is what happened in Community today"
[20:59] <jcastro> AlanBell: wait!
[21:00] <jcastro> let's convince jono it's a good idea first
[21:00] <AlanBell> quicker to code it up and show him it is a good idea :)
[21:00] <jcastro> jono: right, so this is how you make this less work
[21:00] <jcastro> so last time you had to find us and be like "guys what did you do today"
[21:00] <jcastro> then you would have to compile all that together
[21:01] <jcastro> instead you would say "every session you run put your session is there, or you will be killed"
[21:01] <jono> jcastro, I think it is a good idea, but I don't think the tool was the problem, but I am happy to trial this if you want
[21:01] <jcastro> then at the end of the day you take all our raw stuff, massage, and done!
[21:01] <Daviey> AlanBell, One more thing... Any chance you can add ETHERPAD_HOST_SUFFIX ? :)
[21:01] <jcastro> right, and if we have it right on the schedule it will be in our faces, so we'll be inclined to make sure it doesn't suck
[21:02] <Daviey> AlanBell, meh, scrub that
[21:02] <AlanBell> well you can put a port in the host if you want
[21:02] <jcastro> AlanBell: oh, another idea but it's probably P material
[21:03] <jcastro> in any given doc I can designate what's summary content
[21:03] <jcastro> but nm, that's probably too complicated
[21:03] <jono> jcastro, make sure you liaise with IS over the etherpad reqs
[21:03] <jcastro> jono: kirkland and Daviey are doing that
[21:04] <jcastro> I'm not involved in that
[21:04] <AlanBell> jono: I have been talking to kirkland and elmo today
[21:04] <Daviey> jamespage is the mug^D person doing most of the heavy lifting atm.
[21:04] <doctormo> jono: I'll be going to LGM in Montreal instead of UDS this cycle, are there any graphics related interests I could communicate on behalf of the Ubuntu community?
[21:04] <jono> jcastro, ok, can ask you to just have oversight to ensure everyone is keeping the comms channels open?
[21:04] <jcastro> Daviey: is it going to be EC2 or a real server?
[21:04] <AlanBell> elmo says we should be good to go with pad.ubuntu.com
[21:04] <Daviey> jcastro: pass.
[21:04] <jcastro> jono: nod
[21:05] <jono> doctormo, I don't think so - maybe talk to Ivanka thoug
[21:05] <jono> h
[21:05] <jcastro> Daviey: is that pass as "I don't know?" or pass as in "lol not my problem?"
[21:05] <doctormo> aye aye
[21:05] <Daviey> jcastro: mostly the former.
[21:05] <jcastro> heh
[21:05] <jcastro> "a little of both"
[21:05] <jcastro> AlanBell: ok so next question
[21:05] <Daviey> AlanBell: can jcastro embed a pony?
[21:05] <Daviey> a flashing GIF pony?
[21:06] <jcastro> no no, nothing so drastic
[21:06] <AlanBell> actually yes
[21:06] <jcastro> AlanBell: I assume the server your running is running summit
[21:06] <jcastro> so what's the plan wrt. landing that in summit on summit.u.c?
[21:06] <Daviey> AlanBell: what about play some midi files on page load?
[21:07]  * AlanBell adds the pony
[21:07] <AlanBell> jcastro: the "server" is my laptop
[21:07] <AlanBell> and yes, running summit
[21:07] <Daviey> jcastro: AlanBell's branch can land pretty quickly.. we can use pad.ubuntu-uk.org as an interim... the minimal theme is not functioning but valid proof of concept
[21:07] <AlanBell> click on the summit link in the header
[21:08] <AlanBell> Daviey: how about pad.daviey.com
[21:08] <Daviey> Not really happy landing the pad server AlanBell is developing against
[21:08] <jcastro> Daviey: ok so you're not concerned about landing it and deploying it quickly?
[21:08] <jcastro> Daviey: sorry let me rephrase
[21:08] <jcastro> ok so landing his branch and having it on prod summit.u.c won't be a problem?
[21:08] <AlanBell> Daviey: I put pad.ubuntu.com in the settings.py
[21:08] <Daviey> AlanBell: i'd rather a *ubuntu* domain TBH :)
[21:08] <Daviey> jcastro: no problem.
[21:08] <AlanBell> and primarypad.com in my localsettings.py
[21:09] <Daviey> AlanBell: groovy
[21:09] <Daviey> jcastro: it's a simple deployment atm, as trunk = deployed.
[21:09] <jcastro> Daviey: alright so basically he can prototype all he wants irregardless of what you guys do with the real etherpad we'll use
[21:09] <Daviey> AlanBell isn't making any DB changes, so nice and simples
[21:09]  * AlanBell is simples personified
[21:09] <jcastro> AlanBell: I owe you many beers
[21:10] <jcastro> this is awesome
[21:10]  * AlanBell opens a tab
[21:10] <Daviey> AlanBell: Can i land your branch now?
[21:10] <AlanBell> Daviey: 10 minutes or so
[21:10] <Daviey> AlanBell: okay, throw in a merge request when ready
[21:10] <jcastro> Daviey: ok so when this lands
[21:11] <jcastro> we'll basically have it
[21:11] <jcastro> but with a temporary etherpad
[21:11] <Daviey> yes
[21:11] <jcastro> ah awesome
[21:12] <Daviey> jcastro: Finding someone to do an etherpad ubuntu theme would be good for deployment IMO :)
[21:12] <Daviey> it's just CSS foo.
[21:13] <jcastro> you mean for the full on pad?
[21:13] <jcastro> or the embedded thing
[21:13] <jcastro> I would think most people at UDS will do the embedded thing
[21:14] <cjohnston> would need both eventually
[21:14] <jcastro> Daviey: I suppose integrating the IRC channel into the side thing will be hard
[21:14] <cjohnston> cause im sure people will use the pad.u.c outside of uds
[21:15] <jcastro> cjohnston: right, but the time crunch is for UDS
[21:15] <AlanBell> jcastro: nope, not hard
[21:15] <cjohnston> thats why I said eventually ;-)
[21:16] <Daviey> jcastro: what side?
[21:16] <jcastro> on the sidebar in the notes screen
[21:17] <Daviey> jcastro: Yeah, i'm saying if we get the ubuntu theme into the first deployment of etherpad, it's more likely to get done :)
[21:17] <jcastro> Daviey: ok, so you want me to find someone to do an etherpad ubuntu theme, I can do that.
[21:17] <Daviey> jcastro: Won't that make the page /really/ cramped?
[21:18] <jcastro> Daviey: yeah bridge too far, I am just brainstorming
[21:18] <jcastro> Daviey: right now IS has to set up each room with an IRC client, and like a browser window
[21:18] <jcastro> in the future
[21:18] <jcastro> it would be cool if we just had a frame with the notes in the middle, irc, and the next part of the schedule in one thing we can fullscreen
[21:19] <jcastro> Daviey: where would a contributor pull the css from, can they just bzr branch lp: from somewhere to get the theming stuff?
[21:19] <AlanBell> ooh, link to icecast for the room would be good
[21:20] <jcastro> AlanBell: there's a bug for that!
[21:20] <nigelb> paultag: :_
[21:20] <nigelb> Daviey: depends on why
[21:20] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[21:20] <jcastro> AlanBell: but if you can put it on this page, great!
[21:20] <nigelb> (I just popped it just before bed)
[21:21] <Ronnie> ping kim0
[21:21] <nigelb> Daviey: wassup? what are you plotting?
[21:21] <jcastro> nigelb: want to do the CSS for etherpad?
[21:21] <Ronnie> http://84.86.207.22:8000/ if you have time, could you give some feedback
[21:21] <nigelb> jcastro: this weekend? YES!
[21:22] <jcastro> \o/
[21:22]  * nigelb sets friday as etherpad hackday
[21:23] <nigelb> I have a bunch of summit fixes to do too, so perfect
[21:24] <salgado> mhall119, so, after talking to Daviey and james_w we figured it'd be possible to have a separate theme on summit.linaro.org just by using separate 'media' directories for that vhost, with our custom css/images
[21:25] <kim0> Ronnie: hey
[21:25] <salgado> the only thing we wouldn't be able to do with that is change the ubuntu log as that's hard-coded in the base template, so I've proposed a change to the light-django-theme thing: https://code.launchpad.net/~salgado/ubuntu-community-webthemes/ubuntu-logo-to-css/+merge/58383
[21:26] <salgado> although I might have proposed it against the wrong branch?
[21:28]  * AlanBell chucks in a merge request
[21:29] <Ronnie> kim0: i hope we could have it ready before the launch of 11.04
[21:29] <AlanBell> I am still working on the track daily summary thing, complicated by the fact that meetings can be on multiple days
[21:31] <kim0> Ronnie: hmm deploying to production is probably gonna go slower than you think :
[21:32] <Ronnie> kim0: any idea how 'fast' the production can deploy?
[21:32] <kim0> Ronnie: I'd think it'd have to be ready by now
[21:32] <kim0> Ronnie: the code that is
[21:32] <mhall119> salgado: you can use different templates entirely if it'll run on a separate server
[21:32] <Ronnie> kim0: is not ready yet :(
[21:33] <salgado> mhall119, right, but the goal is to have a single deployment serving both vhosts
[21:33] <Ronnie> altought basic functionality wont take long i guess
[21:33] <Ronnie> but testing need to be done
[21:33] <kim0> Ronnie: Yeah .. no need for that deadline though ..
[21:33] <kim0> we're not running out of releases soon :)
[21:33] <Ronnie> ;)
[21:33] <AlanBell> what is the icecast url format?
[21:34] <jcastro> checking
[21:35] <jcastro> http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/
[21:35] <mhall119> salgado: looks like it's proposed against the right branch
[21:36] <mhall119> salgado: you can have 2 instances of teh same code running, but using different settings files, and thus different templates
[21:38] <salgado> mhall119, right, but we wanted to avoid that to make deployment easier for IS
[21:39] <czajkowski> sometimes canonical sysadmins just make my day rather easy
[21:40] <mhall119> salgado: gotcha, I don't have any objections to your merge proposals, if I have time later today I'll test it and if everything looks okay I'll merge it
[21:41] <salgado> mhall119, great, thanks!
[21:41] <mhall119> np
[21:42] <jcastro> jussi: BOOYAH: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[21:43] <doctormo> What kind of file is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596258/ ?
[21:43] <doctormo> It's not ini format, it's something else, but I don't know it yet.
[21:52] <mhall119> doctormo: dunno,  but it doesn't look pleasant
[21:52] <Daviey> AlanBell, so, icecast url is a model object you can call
[21:52] <Daviey> AlanBell, room.icecast_url
[21:55] <AlanBell> awesome
[22:07] <Ronnie> kim0: do you have an 10.04 installation running?
[22:12] <Ronnie> i also get the error: Can't create GeoIP->gi object when trying: gi = GeoIP.open('/usr/share/GeoIP/GeoLiteCity.dat', GeoIP.GEOIP_STANDARD) any ideas?
[22:13] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8000/uds-o/meeting/full-of-awesome/ now including links to "$track summary for $day" and icecast url if specified on the room
[23:10] <Daviey> mhall119, The ubuntu-website is a strict alias in the apache config... so having varying django settings will not help.
[23:11] <Daviey> or i can't see how it can, at least
[23:14] <AlanBell> jcastro: jono: the notes have landed, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/ and click on the icon of the community tuesday roundtable
[23:17] <AlanBell> note the "Community summary for Tuesday" link which is automatically added
[23:21] <jono> AlanBell, nice!
[23:21] <jono> AlanBell, do I need to save the notes?
[23:22] <jono> there is no save button
[23:22] <AlanBell> no need
[23:22] <AlanBell> every keystroke is saved
[23:22] <jono> awesome
[23:22] <jono> how do I find out who each colour is?
[23:23] <AlanBell> see the notes in a separate window button
[23:23] <AlanBell> that takes you to the full etherpad UI with names
[23:23] <jono> AlanBell, would be cool if it used OpenID to automatically display your name
[23:23] <jono> this is sweet
[23:23] <AlanBell> we could embed that rather than the micro or nano themes
[23:25] <jono> AlanBell, would be handy if the logged in users were shown within summit
[23:25] <jono> then there would be no need for a seperate link to the etherpad
[23:25] <AlanBell> yeah, can do
[23:25] <jono> cool
[23:26] <jono> :-)
[23:26] <AlanBell> we can do a theme with the user list but not the chat pane (because that dupes IRC)
[23:27] <jono> AlanBell, yeah
[23:27] <jono> I don't think the chat bit is useful
[23:27] <jono> no one uses that in gobby anyway
[23:28] <Daviey> chat pane IRC is bad for historical logs anyway
[23:28] <Daviey> s/IRC/chat
[23:28] <popey> best to keep chat in one place imo
[23:28] <popey> logged too in irc
[23:28] <AlanBell> so that bit inside the iframe is part of the etherpad theme, which nigelb is messing with on friday
[23:29] <Daviey> jono, I looked at openid... it is currently possible, but not polished enough for deployment
[23:29] <Daviey> (or secure)
[23:30] <Daviey> It's not currently possible to use Ubuntu SSO, it would need to use the API... probably how mumble does it.
[23:30] <kim0> Ronnie: maybe the file /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoLiteCity.dat doesn't exist (geoip-database or python-geoip not installed?)
[23:30] <AlanBell> meh, you only have to name yourself once and the etherpad server knows who you are
[23:30] <Ronnie> kim0: fixed, it was not unzipped
[23:30] <Daviey> AlanBell, yeah, openid helps with accountability with abuse.
[23:31] <kim0> cool
[23:32] <Daviey> AlanBell, also note... using the micro theme... you cannot name yourself afaiks :(
[23:32] <AlanBell> true, it would be good to have openid auth for longer term use
[23:32] <Ronnie> http://84.86.207.22:8000/API/geoip
[23:32] <Daviey> AlanBell, I think someone would need to reach in their pocket to get it sponsored :)
[23:33] <Ronnie> kim0: its really easy to setup and development server instance, so if you'd like (and have time) ....
[23:33] <AlanBell> yes, I knew you couldn't name yourself with the micro theme, only just realising that is kind of important in some sessions
[23:34] <AlanBell> so we do a theme with the pad, editing controls (bold etc) and a sidebar with names, but no chat
[23:34] <Daviey> AlanBell, I think the micro theme needs extending to have the username
[23:35] <Daviey> +1
[23:35] <paultag> how does the JS script POST the name?
[23:35] <paultag> why not write a basic gate and post it before entering the chat
[23:35] <paultag> then hack it to flip a session varable that lets them "in"
[23:35] <Daviey> paultag, I know what you are thinking... and that could work
[23:35] <paultag> it's a kludge, aye, but it might work in this timeframe
[23:35] <paultag> Daviey: :)
[23:36] <AlanBell> isn't it a cookie or something?
[23:36] <Daviey> AlanBell, yes, cookie
[23:36] <paultag> AlanBell: if it is, that'd be easy to set
[23:36] <paultag> perfect :)
[23:36] <Daviey> AlanBell, appending ?user=LP.id could be our fix
[23:36] <Daviey> no need to have a gate IMO..
[23:36] <paultag> +1, if you can get around it :)
[23:36] <paultag> OK, heading off. cheerio, all
[23:37] <kim0> Ronnie: can't really commit much time (I'm also off next week) :/
[23:38] <Ronnie> kim0: ok
[23:39] <AlanBell> not a cookie
[23:45] <AlanBell> not a simple cookie anyhow
[23:46] <Daviey> AlanBell, well it is cookie based, because if you clear your cookies, the name goes :)
[23:48] <AlanBell> yeah the ET cookie
[23:48] <AlanBell> but the name is stored serverside
[23:51] <AlanBell> must do the quotas.js hacks to let plenty of people on each pad
[23:51] <Daviey> yeah, i made it unlimited
[23:52] <Daviey> AlanBell, it looks like it wouldn't be too complicated to extend the request.params.userId or request.params.username
[23:52] <Daviey> then appending ?username=foo would work.
[23:54] <AlanBell> ok so a bit of a mod on the etherpad side and a minor tweak to the iframe URL then?
[23:56] <AlanBell> now all I have to do is a merge request to get http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk integrated with the keynote session
[23:57] <Daviey> lol
[23:58] <AlanBell> in fact if there is any chance of that getting in as an easter egg to be revealed on the day I would do the coding for it