[15:09] <airurando> afternoon all
[15:09] <syngindub> hey there
[15:09] <airurando> hi syngindub.
[15:09] <airurando> enjoying the good weather
[15:09] <syngindub> how are tricks
[15:09] <syngindub> indeed
[15:09] <syngindub> hope it continues for the w/e
[15:10] <airurando> things are good here and I also hope the weather holds for the weekend.
[15:11] <syngindub> auditors are gone..i'm happy :)
[15:12] <airurando> no matter what field of endeavour you are in the departure of auditors is always a good thing.
[15:13] <airurando> syngindub enjoy the post audit feeling.
[15:14] <airurando> anyone going to be here for the irc meeting tomorrow?
[15:15] <moylan> should be
[15:16] <airurando> moylan good stuff
[15:53] <syngindub> irc meeting ??
[15:59] <airurando> syngindub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-04-20
[15:59] <airurando> details there
[16:00] <airurando> monthly team IRC meeting to discuss any issues arising.
[16:01] <airurando> syngindub you are more than welcome to join in and add an item to the agenda if you'd like.
[16:04] <daxroc> Afternoon all
[16:05] <syngindub> thanks but not sure what i'd add :) i'm only a new comer around these parts
[16:05] <airurando> syngindub: no bother,  well be finalising details of the natty release party at it
[16:06] <airurando> daxroc afternoon
[16:09] <syngindub> ok, talk to you later lads. im moff
[16:09] <syngindub> off
[21:43] <airurando> interesting LoCo Council meeting just ended in #ubuntu-meeting
[21:44] <czajkowski> thanks
[21:44] <airurando> hi czajkowski
[21:44] <infoturtle> what was talked about?
[21:45] <czajkowski> so we want to see if can get stuff put in the canonical shop for teams to buy at a discounted price
[21:45] <infoturtle> oooooooo, I'm mad for that mouse, never think to buy it tho
[21:46] <czajkowski> and we want to see if we can get a discount code for  approved teams
[21:46] <czajkowski> so you can buy them a bit cheaper
[21:46] <airurando> I wanted to chip in on that meeting but it didn't feel right
[21:46] <czajkowski> airurando: always join in
[21:47] <czajkowski> everyone is welcome
[21:47] <czajkowski> or post to the mailing list
[21:47] <czajkowski> there is a thread on it
[21:47] <airurando> fast moving and I didn't feel my input related explicity
[21:48] <czajkowski> meh never worry about that
[21:48] <czajkowski> really
[21:48] <airurando> don't have the typing skills of you lot
[21:49] <airurando> just that I've been thinking on the shipit stutdown
[21:49] <czajkowski> it's only effecting NON approved teams though
[21:49] <airurando> something I agree with totally
[21:49] <airurando> ah yes
[21:49] <airurando> I think it could go further though
[21:49] <czajkowski> so wont effect ye guys
[21:50] <airurando> my feeling on where ubuntu is going
[21:50] <airurando> is that the shipment of CDs to LoCos should concentrate on LTS releases
[21:51] <czajkowski> yeah that is one point
[21:51] <airurando> It ubuntu is going through significant change
[21:51] <czajkowski> alright but many teams do install fests with these cds or hold work shops
[21:51] <czajkowski> every team does things soo differently tis quiet amazing tbh
[21:51] <airurando> and they are trying to target joe soap users such as myself
[21:52] <airurando> LTS releases are the way forward
[21:52] <czajkowski> nods
[21:52] <czajkowski> fair poit
[21:52] <czajkowski> *point
[21:52] <airurando> users of interim releases have the means to downlosd themselves
[21:52] <czajkowski> yeah they do but not to new users
[21:52] <czajkowski> kinda a catch 22
[21:53] <czajkowski> you want people to stick around so you give them a LTS
[21:53] <airurando> should have brought it up for discussion at the meeting......
[21:53] <czajkowski> and you wnat people to get excited and get involved so you give them a non lts
[21:53] <airurando> catch 22 indeed
[21:53] <czajkowski> I'm kinda torn myself
[21:53]  * airurando just feels that Ubuntu should put its best foot forward to the masses
[21:54] <airurando> best foot being LTS
[21:54] <airurando> just my opinion and an idea i'd love to be discussed
[21:55] <infoturtle> :/
[21:55] <airurando> infoturtle please chip in
[21:56] <czajkowski> airurando: you can always raise this
[21:56] <airurando> czajkowski: when is the next loCo Council IRC meeting?
[21:57] <infoturtle> this release is causing some concern with users isn't it
[21:57] <czajkowski> airurando: next month
[21:57] <infoturtle> with shipit going and gnome
[21:57] <czajkowski> infoturtle: well it's new and a bit different
[21:57] <infoturtle> many are unsure
[21:57] <airurando> It is just my own thought
[21:57] <czajkowski> infoturtle: shippit has nothing to do with ye guys
[21:57] <czajkowski> it's a seperate matter entirely
[21:57] <infoturtle> I understand both points
[21:57] <airurando> infoturtle: that is my point.
[21:57] <infoturtle> just stiring some people is all
[21:57] <airurando> interim releases are bold
[21:58] <airurando> and rightly so
[21:58] <airurando> formulated to advance the distribution
[21:58] <airurando> and that is totally right
[21:58] <airurando> it's great
[21:59] <airurando> but LTS should be safe and stable
[21:59] <airurando> designed for the general populus
[21:59] <infoturtle> how's it the kde and xfce have releases for them but they put uninty in place of gnome instead of another one???
[21:59] <infoturtle> a Uubuntu maybe?
[22:00] <infoturtle> ha ha, that silly question killed the conversation
[22:00] <airurando> infoturtle: anyone with zero knowledge of ubuntu won't have a clue what you are talking about.
[22:00] <airurando> zero knowledge of linux even
[22:01] <airurando> czajkowski: when the agenda link is available can you forward it on to me?
[22:02] <infoturtle> Gnome, KDE, Unity and XFCE are all desktop enviroments, ubuntu used to use Ubuntu, Kde is in Kubuntu and XFCE is on Xubuntu, why not create one for unity rather than replace the one on Ubuntu
[22:04] <infoturtle> nm, silly comment
[22:05] <airurando> infoturtle: you are getting way to deep into this for my specific topic
[22:05] <airurando> but your points are completely valid for the wider discussion
[22:06]  * infoturtle just rambling, feel free to ignore
[22:12] <airurando> infoturtle; not rambling
[22:12] <airurando> just expressing opinion
[22:12] <airurando> which is what i was doing
[23:30] <airurando> hope we have a good vibrant meeting tomorrow night.
[23:30] <airurando> I'm away to bed
[23:30] <airurando> nn
[23:31] <infoturtle> good night mr. airurando