[08:18] <dpm> morning all
[08:19] <TLE> good morning
[08:22] <andrejz> mornign
[08:22] <andrejz> morning
[08:24] <dpm> morning TLE and andrejz
[08:27] <primes2h> morning dpm
[08:28] <andrejz> dpm, if i undestand correctly the new ubuntu documentation is not available for tranlsation yet ?
[08:50] <andrejz> dpm, not sure if you got this before since you went offline for a minute ..
[08:50] <andrejz> if i undestand correctly the new ubuntu documentation is not available for tranlsation yet ?
[08:53] <dpm> andrejz, it is not. In fact, the English documentation is not ready yet, and only part of it will be available for Natty.
[08:54] <andrejz> if i understand correctly ubuntu-docs-* will be only used as fallback in Natty and not used at all in 11.10
[08:54] <andrejz> because there won't be classic environment anymore (only unity 2-d)
[08:55] <andrejz> so it doesn't make much sense to translate ubuntu-docs-* packages, right?
[09:10] <dpm> andrejz, well, it does for 11.04 in the case of those users that need to resort to the classic desktop, but yeah, I think we should concentrate our efforts in getting good docs + translations for next release instead
[09:13] <RawChid> Good morning
[09:16] <andrejz> morning
[09:20] <dpm> morning RawChid
[09:22] <artnay> any chromium translators around?
[09:23] <andrejz> yes, but not done much work there recently
[09:24] <artnay> andrejz: if you've made changes/corrections to chrome translations and your corrections are overwritten, could you +1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/760512
[09:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760512 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Chromium's LP translations overwritten by imports (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:25] <andrejz> will do
[09:27] <happyaron> dpm: I discovered that the user guide is talking about gnome-shell instead of unity, that would be sorry...
[09:28] <happyaron> maybe it's directly taken from gnome-user-guide?
[09:28] <andrejz> dpm, i am wondering if gnome-user-guide http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-user-docs/ is used as a basis for the new documentation
[09:29] <andrejz> if that is the case it might make sense to translate this file and then only changes made by the docs team need to be translated (gnome-shell> unity)
[09:30] <dpm> andrejz, happyaron, that's correct, they are using the gnome user guide as a basis, and substituting some references from the shell to unity, but it's still not yet complete. That's why you still see some gnome shell screenshots, for example
[09:37] <RawChid> Hey, so far I only translated with Launchpad. Now I want to translate gnupg2, I think a lot of strings can be copied from gnupg. Is there a way to "batch" or automatically take the strings from gnupg? (when they match 100% for example)
[09:39] <RawChid> I've installed gtranslator, that can give me suggestions from previously translations. But I need to copy each string by hand
[09:40] <dpm> RawChid, if they are from different source packages, there is no way. You've got two options: a) In Launchpad, if strings are a 100% match, they will appear as suggestions and you can just click them b) offline, you can use the msgmerge tool to merge the gnupg and gnupg2 translations into one, then edit it with gtranslator or whatever, and upload it to LP
[09:41] <RawChid> Ok, msgmerge would do the job I guess
[09:42] <dpm> RawChid, partially. It will carry over the 100% matches to the new translation, but you'll have to review the rest
[09:43] <RawChid> That is fine. Because I think the new version had a lot of identical strings it will save me a lot of work
[09:44] <dpm> ok, cool
[09:44] <RawChid> I had the same with testdrive and testdrive-gtk.
[09:44] <RawChid> A lot of overlap in strings
[09:45] <andrejz> @RawChild: you can use poedit, and just update the translated file using "Update with POT" function
[09:45] <RawChid> That sounds easier, let me take a look into poedit
[09:48] <RawChid> andrejz, I downloaded the 2 .po files from Launchpad. How do I get the .pot?
[09:49] <andrejz> in a windows like this you can choose a .pot template
[09:49] <andrejz> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/+export
[09:49] <andrejz> just choose a the right package
[09:50] <RawChid> ok
[09:53] <primes2h> dpm: I confirm that none of ui/ strings in system-config-printer are translatable
[09:54] <primes2h> dpm: for some reason patch is not applied
[09:56] <dpm> primes2h, thanks for testing this. Can you comment it to seb128 and and tkamppeter_ on #ubuntu-desktop? They were the ones working on the patch
[09:57] <primes2h> dpm: sure, thank you.
[09:58] <RawChid> andrejz, I tried what you suggested, but something went wrong. I want to take over the translations from gnupg into gnupg2. I downloaded gnupg.pot and gnupg2.po. I opened gnupg2.po in poedit, and did the "Update with POT". Is this what you meant?
[09:58] <andrejz> yes
[09:58] <RawChid> gnupg2.po changed from 1700 strings to 1200 strings
[09:59] <andrejz> that's probably because gnupg only has 1200 strings
[09:59] <RawChid> I think that should remain the same
[09:59] <RawChid> You are right!
[09:59] <RawChid> But this is confusing to me.
[10:01] <andrejz> what update with pot does is that is takes .po file, and then updates it with pot file. If english strings in .po and .pot files are the same
[10:01] <andrejz> they remain translated.
[10:01] <RawChid> And what about the other strings from gnupg2 ?
[10:01] <andrejz> if .pot has more different strings they become untranslated or possibly fuzzy with the help of translation memory
[10:02] <andrejz> other strings are commented out in the file in the case they appear again
[10:05] <RawChid> But what do I need to do with the new file?
[10:05] <andrejz> this is your gnupg .po file, which used translations from the gnupg2 template
[10:05] <andrejz> so finish translating it and then upload it
[10:06] <RawChid> But it has less strings than the original gnup2
[10:06] <RawChid> I used the gnupg1.pot
[10:06] <andrejz> which version is already translated? gnupg1 or 2?
[10:07] <RawChid> Sorry for the inconvenience
[10:07] <RawChid> 1
[10:07] <RawChid> I want to copy translations from 1 to 2
[10:07] <andrejz> ok, then take the gnupg1 .po file and update with gnupg2.pot
[10:07] <RawChid> Aahh
[10:09] <RawChid> Thnx
[10:15] <andrejz> works?
[10:15] <RawChid> I just get mail that I can download. 1 min
[10:17] <RawChid> Yeah! Works like a charm
[10:17] <RawChid> from ~1400 to ~400 untranslated
[10:18] <RawChid> Saves a lot of work eh :)
[10:21] <andrejz> you're welcome
[10:22] <RawChid> Something else. Isn't there anything more "autmomatic"
[10:22] <RawChid> Say, this can be done for weach language
[10:22] <RawChid> each*
[10:28] <andrejz> it is done in some way. in launchpad if strings are the same/ similar you see them as suggestions, but they need to be confirmed before they are used
[10:30] <RawChid> I was aware of the automatic suggestions in LP. But for gnupg I didn't saw them. And now I've done ~1000 translations at once.