[07:49] <vish> so.. when we switch to wayland, will this channel be renamed to #ubuntu-w ? 
[07:50] <tjaalton> you're not around to see it anyway ;)
[07:50] <vish> :D
[07:51] <tjaalton> x won't go away, at least it'll live as a wayland client for a long time to come
[07:52] <vish> aah!
[08:31] <tjaalton> RAOF: I'll merge xserver 1.10.1
[09:03] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: no point is there, 1 commit you already added as a patch?
[09:08] <Sarvatt> WTH.. vblank_mode=0 glxgears under an xtrace display is fine on sandybridge, stutters and doesn't update outside of an xtrace display
[09:08] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: nicer package version, and the current one isn't uploaded either
[09:22] <tjaalton> merge pushed
[09:23] <tjaalton> hmm, still no abi-compatible virtualbox release..
[09:24] <Sarvatt> OSE? theres a precompiled one on the virtualbox website
[09:25] <Sarvatt> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.4/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.0.5-Xorg110.iso
[09:25] <tjaalton> yeah, i was thinking of the situation in natty
[09:26] <Sarvatt> someone pointed out the commit needed in a bug report when we first did 1.10, guess that didnt get uploaded..?
[09:26] <tjaalton> hmm, i'll check the package
[09:27] <tjaalton> right, it's just been rebuilt to pick up new deps, so it's still broken
[09:27] <tjaalton> debfx: ^
[09:28] <Sarvatt> looks like the guest additions dont even compile atm
[09:29] <Sarvatt> /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox-ose-guest/4.0.4/build/include/iprt/assert.h:231:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[09:30] <tjaalton> heh
[09:31] <tjaalton> I'll try the latest source if it builds..
[09:32] <Sarvatt> http://www.virtualbox.org/changeset/36301
[09:33] <Sarvatt> http://www.virtualbox.org/changeset/36389
[09:33] <Sarvatt> http://www.virtualbox.org/changeset/36300
[09:33] <tjaalton> yuck
[09:33] <tjaalton> the first one is familiar looking..
[09:34] <Sarvatt> a bunch of header manipulation in later commits too so it compiles
[09:38] <tjaalton> guess I'll pass on building the beast :)
[09:46] <Sarvatt> portal 2 doesn't work in wine, bah! :)
[09:48] <tjaalton> hehe
[10:04] <lilstevie> Sarvatt: damn you
[10:06] <debfx> tjaalton: what is broken in virtualbox?
[10:06] <Sarvatt> lilstevie: it doesn't work with fglrx or nvidia either, looks like its a wine and/or portal 2 problem
[10:07] <lilstevie> Sarvatt: meh I have an ATi 5750
[10:07] <lilstevie> I however don't own portal 2
[10:07] <Sarvatt> yeah 5770 is what i tested it on first
[10:08] <Sarvatt> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26835
[10:08] <ubot4> bugs.winehq.org bug 26835 in -unknown "Portal 2 exits at menu screen." [Normal,New]
[10:08]  * Sarvatt is hoping for a miracle when he wakes up
[10:09] <tjaalton> debfx: guest additions don't work in natty
[10:09] <tjaalton> debfx: also, I'm filing a bug report that you probably should use OBSOLETE_BY in dkms.conf, to tell dkms not to build on kernels newer than what the vbox version supports
[10:09] <debfx> tjaalton: the ones from the additions iso image?
[10:09] <tjaalton> debfx: i don't know where they are from :)
[10:10] <tjaalton> but if they are not distributed by ubuntu, it's not something you can fix, right?
[10:11] <debfx> both is in ubuntu, the virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 package and virtualbox-guest-additions (the iso image)
[10:11] <debfx> I could update virtualbox-guest-additions to the 4.0.5 pre-release
[10:12] <lilstevie> Sarvatt: a miracle for me would be someone giving me portal2 :p
[10:12] <debfx> about OBSOLETE_BY: how do I know which kernel version will break the module? ;)
[10:12] <tjaalton> debfx: yeah that would be good I think. and as Sarvatt pointed out, current version in natty doesn't even build
[10:13] <tjaalton> debfx: just put the one that the distro version is shipped with, the user can override it
[10:13] <tjaalton> debfx: do you still need a bugreport for it?
[10:14] <tjaalton> so, for natty you'd put 'OBSOLETE_BY=2.6.39', unless you know it builds with it
[10:14] <debfx> a bug report would be good, yes
[10:14] <tjaalton> in which case 2.6.40 would be ok
[10:14] <tjaalton> alright, I'll finish it
[10:15] <debfx> Sarvatt: internal compiler error -> please report a bug against gcc :)
[10:17] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hey :)
[10:17] <tjaalton> debfx: filed bug 765680
[10:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765680 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) "prevent building the dkms modules on kernels newer than is known to be supported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765680
[10:17] <ricotz> Sarvatt, could you renew my xedgers membership?
[10:18] <debfx> tjaalton: thanks
[10:20]  * ricotz is having wifi problems and gets disconnected often
[10:34] <debfx> tjaalton: maybe you could sponsor my debdiff on bug #753370 ?
[10:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 753370 in mesa (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "No Desktop Effects in Kubuntu 11.04 Beta1 (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 58)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/753370
[10:35] <tjaalton> debfx: I can
[10:40] <debfx> cool, thanks!
[10:42] <tjaalton> debfx: uploaded
[12:33] <debfx> tjaalton: I'm not sure if adding OBSOLETE_BY is a good idea
[12:33] <debfx> I'd rather have something that displays a warning when the build fails with an unsupported kernel version
[12:34] <debfx> also dkms shouldn't fail package installations when a build fails
[12:35] <debfx> I should probably file a bug against dkms :)
[14:07] <tjaalton> debfx: think I tried that already :)
[14:08] <tjaalton> oh you found that
[14:09] <tjaalton> and i agree OBSOLETE_BY is a hack, but the best there is atm
[14:30] <tjaalton> xserver 1.10.1 uploaded
[15:39] <debfx> tjaalton: for oneiric dkms needs to stop generating apport bugs for unsupported kernels, otherwise I'll start redirecting them ;D
[15:40] <tjaalton> debfx: heh, sounds good
[15:40] <debfx> either by a kernel version variable or by detecting if the kernel is from the ubuntu archive
[15:56] <ScottK> RAOF: Did you all reach a conclusion on what to do about the GEM/Intel question?
[16:01] <tjaalton> ScottK: uploaded already
[16:01] <tjaalton> and accepted
[16:02] <ScottK> tjaalton: Excellent.  Thanks.
[17:27] <Sarvatt> ricotz: I extended your membership the day they emailed us, we had the same join date (but the years differed) so I'm expiring too :)
[17:28] <Sarvatt> but I can't extend my own membership even though i'm an admin
[17:29] <ricotz> Sarvatt, oh, thank you, actually i didnt looked at the team page and just relied on the email
[17:30] <ricotz> and there wasnt a "your membership was renewed" mail yet ;)
[20:39] <soreau> Sarvatt: ping: I was wondering if installing xorg-edgers on lucid will update the kernel as well
[20:41] <bryceh> soreau, no
[20:41] <soreau> bryceh: Ok thank you
[20:42] <bryceh> soreau, you can look at the package details of the ppa to see what gets installed
[20:47] <ScottK> My blur is back on KDE/Intel.  Thanks everyone.