[07:41] <sakhi> moonin
[07:46] <superfly> hiya sakhi
[07:50] <sakhi> Maaz: kettle on?
[07:50] <Maaz> sakhi: Sorry...
[07:51] <sakhi> Maaz: koffee asb
[07:51] <Maaz> sakhi: What?
[07:51] <sakhi> Maaz: koffee 
[07:51] <Maaz> sakhi: Excuse me?
[07:51] <sakhi> Maaz: who are you?
[07:51] <Maaz> sakhi: I am your new robot overlord
[07:52] <sakhi> superfly: how goes?
[07:52] <superfly> sakhi: good, and you?
[07:53] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[07:53] <Maaz> superfly: There isn't a pot on
[07:53] <superfly> Maaz: coffee on
[07:53]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:53] <sakhi> good thanks.
[07:53] <sakhi> Ethiopian coffee is still the best ;)
[07:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for superfly!
[08:01] <Squirm> morning
[08:06] <superfly> hi Squirm
[08:20] <sakhi> morning Squirm 
[08:25] <Squirm> so how is everyone?
[08:28] <sakhi> good thanks and you?
[08:28] <Squirm> not bad hey. just pretty tired
[09:31] <nuvolari_> o/
[09:31] <nuvolari_> lo
[09:32] <nlsthzn> morning all :)
[09:32] <marcog> Symmetria: i see wacs has landed. any eta of bandwidth from it?
[09:43] <Symmetria> marcog they wont go live before end of the year
[09:43] <Symmetria> http://iris.tenet.ac.za/routers/graphs.php <[09:44] <marcog> that sucks :(
[09:44] <Symmetria> if we're REALLY lucky late november/december
[09:44] <Symmetria> but I doubt it
[09:45] <marcog> i'll be gone by then anyway
[09:57] <superfly> Symmetria: what effect does having Telkom manage the landing station have on the price and/or reliability?
[10:05] <Symmetria> heh superfly reliability will be good
[10:05] <Symmetria> telkom knows what they are doing
[10:05] <Symmetria> with them managing it? virtually nothing, the various partners all have access to it
[10:05] <Symmetria> telkom cant screw em
[10:06] <superfly> Symmetria: so who would Afrihost (for example) buy their bandwidth from if they wanted WACS bandwidth?
[10:07] <Symmetria> mtn, telkom, cable and wireless, infraco, and there are a coupla other players who I cant disclose
[10:08] <superfly> OK
[10:09] <Symmetria> (the reason for the latter is due to the fact that I dont know exactly what the situation is with the others Ive mentioned or what the confidentiality issues surround them are)
[10:10] <superfly> Symmetria: no worries... the MyBB forums are all being doomsayers, and I'd prefer to get a more accurate picture before potentially moaning ;-)
[10:11] <Symmetria> heh superfly lets just say that I'm... extremely positive about wacs
[10:11] <Symmetria> :)
[10:11] <superfly> cool :-)
[10:11] <Symmetria> my hands are just extremely tied right now about what I can and cant say
[10:11] <superfly> I am too, I was just wondering about the impact of having Telkom in the mix
[10:11] <Symmetria> heh, let me say this
[10:12] <Symmetria> Telkoms network is far more stable than neotels
[10:12] <Symmetria> :P
[10:12] <Symmetria> and I'd rather have telkom running the station than neotel
[10:12] <Symmetria> they have more experience
[10:12] <Symmetria> heh, you also gotta remeber that "running a station" doesnt mean a HUGE amount, once the stuff is in and functioning, it should rarely be touched :)
[10:12] <superfly> Symmetria: yeah, from what I've heard and what I've seen, the techies in Telkom know what they're doing
[10:13] <Symmetria> LOL believe me, some of the things Ive seen in various cable stations around the world would scare you :) particularly their DC wiring
[10:13] <Symmetria> people have no concept of correct wiring color codes
[10:14] <Symmetria> blue to positive, red to negative?! with the only way to tell is a multimeter or alternatively to read the tiny little tags they have strung along the wires?!
[10:15]  * inetpro fails to feel the excitement at this stage with WACS only lighting up in 2012
[10:15] <Symmetria> heh either late 2011 or early 2012
[10:15] <Symmetria> there is a LONG road to be walked before its live though 
[10:16] <Symmetria> hell, I'm still speccing gear for our wacs capacity, never mind taking it live 
[10:16] <Symmetria> not to mention the costs involved
[10:17] <Symmetria> heh equipment to light that kinda capacity is expensive to the point of being bizarre
[10:46]  * Symmetria peers afrinic and ambronex
[10:47] <Symmetria> heh I have no idea who exactly ambronex are, but they asked to peer so *shrug*
[11:03] <superfly> Symmetria: all your equipment is expensive to the point of being bizarre
[11:03] <superfly> :-P
[11:11] <queery> maaz, coffee on
[11:11]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[11:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[11:42] <nlsthzn> love the way my natty install is starting to look and behave currently http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10694062&postcount=390
[11:45] <superfly> nlsthzn: is that the humble indie bundle I see? :-D
[11:46] <nlsthzn> superfly: yup :) every now and again I remember I bought it and I install one of the games... never make it past the first few stages before I stop playing ... oh well :)
[11:47] <superfly> nlsthzn: there have been another 2 since then... http://humblebundle.com/
[11:48] <nlsthzn> superfly: I saw... have been tempted :p
[12:28] <Symmetria> heh
[12:28] <Symmetria> wow, hellopeter ftw 
[12:28] <Symmetria> these assholes who I owed money to werent giving me accurate figures so I could pay them (which I was quite prepared to do), and had no real information for me, so eventually I got fed up of them calling me, and put a complaint on hellopeter
[12:29] <Symmetria> they disliked that so much, that they wrote off the debt and closed the file 
[12:29] <Symmetria> and it was a largeeeee sum of money
[12:45] <superfly> wish I could do the same with my credit card :-P
[12:59] <Symmetria> how the hell did malema's bodyguards get licenses for those weapons
[14:49] <marcog> wow, commentary on mybb is getting ridiculously negative over telkom's involvement in wacs
[14:54] <superfly> indeed
[15:39] <Symmetria> does anyone know anythinhg about a distro called pardus?
[15:53]  * Symmetria climbs into that myadsl debate
[17:12] <Kilos> hiya all
[17:12] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:12]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:13] <Kilos> hehe
[17:13] <Kilos> only xchat working here.
[17:13] <Kilos> voda tower dead
[17:16] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:17] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:17] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[18:16] <superfly> Symmetria: heard of it, that's about all
[23:00] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: debian.mirror.ac.za is two days out of date
[23:01] <tumbleweed> froztbyte: ^