[05:27] <Hyperon> anyone know much about soundcards that play well with Linux? (looking to buy a MIDI controller)
[05:28] <holstein> Hyperon: o/
[05:28] <holstein> Hyperon: im heading out
[05:28] <holstein> try over in #opensourcemusicians though
[05:28] <holstein> i have a presonus firepod
[05:28] <Hyperon> thanks for your help
[05:28] <holstein> works well
[05:29] <holstein> and i got http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converter-Music-Keyboard-Window/dp/B0017H4EBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299703370&sr=8-1
[05:29] <holstein> got a couple of those
[05:29] <holstein> here are the usual places to look
[05:29] <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[05:29] <holstein> for pci and USB
[05:29] <holstein> and for firewire.. http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list
[05:30] <Hyperon> any reason why either of pci/usb/firewire is superior?
[05:30] <holstein> depends
[05:31] <holstein> if you want to use it on a laptop
[05:31] <holstein> PCI is out
[05:31] <holstein> and USB is just not appropriate in my opinion
[05:31] <holstein> but some of the devices are really nice
[05:31] <holstein> like the zoomH4
[05:32] <holstein> no midi on the zoom though
[05:33] <Hyperon> that's what i want the most, for it to play well with a midi controller
[05:33] <holstein> what controller?
[05:33] <holstein> it'll just be the audio device
[05:33] <holstein> it wont care what you're sending it
[05:33] <holstein> and midi triggers sound anywyas
[05:33] <holstein> anyways*
[05:34] <holstein> if you're just wanting to work with MIDI
[05:34] <Hyperon> well, i haven't picked one out yet
[05:34] <holstein> and not sending audio into the machine
[05:34] <holstein> just use the internal card
[05:34] <holstein> i have an maudio 49
[05:34] <holstein> its plug and play
[05:34] <holstein> USB
[05:35] <holstein> i also have a nice weighted alesis qs8.1
[05:35] <Hyperon> i am new to all this, so i'm just guessing around. but what i want is to be able to use a midi, take its sounds, do things to them with software
[05:35] <holstein> Hyperon: you dont *need* an audio interface for that
[05:35] <holstein> and i would suggest not getting one til you know what all you need
[05:35] <holstein> just learn about JACK
[05:36] <holstein> and get a controller
[05:36] <holstein> or, just use qwerty
[05:36] <Hyperon> i see. i was under the impression that not any sound card can handle the latencies necessary
[05:36] <holstein> and see what you need
[05:36] <Hyperon> why is JACK central to this?
[05:36] <holstein> well, JACK is the tool
[05:36] <holstein> its the hub
[05:37] <holstein> and its also *more* important in getting low latency
[05:37] <holstein> than whatever sound card
[05:38] <Hyperon> i see
[05:38] <holstein> either way
[05:38] <holstein> you'll need to learn JACK
[05:38] <holstein> and thats not trivial
[05:38] <holstein> i would suggest messing with the software
[05:39] <holstein> and learning a bit about the synths and sequencers
[05:39] <holstein> then, see exactly what your needs are
[05:39] <holstein> so you can get what you need :)
[05:40] <Hyperon> it's just that... i don't know what kinds of sounds i can produce, so having a device that "just makes sounds" is what i felt i needed
[05:40] <Hyperon> you're saying i should read about JACK plugins and such?
[05:41] <holstein> Hyperon: you mean an external sound module?
[05:41] <holstein> i thought you were looking for a controller
[05:41] <holstein> if you get a sound module
[05:41] <Hyperon> yes
[05:41] <holstein> and a controller
[05:41] <holstein> and a sequencer
[05:41] <Hyperon> i don't know what an external sound module is
[05:41] <holstein> you dont really need a computer
[05:41] <holstein> Hyperon: right
[05:41] <holstein> so you need to hang in #opensourcemusicians
[05:41] <holstein> and ask quetsions
[05:41] <holstein> and hold off on buying anything
[05:42] <holstein> an external sound module is just that
[05:42] <holstein> its a 'brain'
[05:42] <holstein> a box that makes sounds
[05:42] <holstein> via MIDI
[05:43] <Hyperon> alright, i'm willing to listen and learn for a while
[05:44] <Hyperon> i'm even willing to buy a "... for dummies" type book, that covers personal music production
[05:45] <Hyperon> and since borders is closing... this might be a good time
[05:45] <holstein> Hyperon: i dont think you'll find what you need at borders
[05:45] <holstein> but, there are some blogs
[05:45] <holstein> and good knowlegable MIDI users in #OSM
[22:45] <virtu> alguem ai manja de dispositivos wireless? (teclado e mouse)