[11:03] <Aquina> 'llo
[15:01] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:52] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: hey. Did you check the translations for the slideshow today?
[15:53] <mr_pouit> I think a new upload was done yesterday, and it should include more translations
[15:53] <charlie-tca> no. I have to have jibel check them, I think. I can't read french
[15:53] <mr_pouit> hehe
[15:53] <charlie-tca> I can check in korean, though
[15:53] <mr_pouit> it was only for French?
[15:53] <charlie-tca> No, that was the one he used
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I think it was all translations
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I believe there were several languages looked at
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I will give it a go today. Got a nomal desktop install running now
[15:54] <mr_pouit> yep, I looked at the French translations when the bug was filed: everything was translated as "proposed", but not validated yet
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Then we should be in good shape now?
[15:55] <mr_pouit> I don't know, maybe nobody validated them?
[15:55] <charlie-tca> I will try it to verify. I guess I can look and see if it is english in any language, right?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> It is a test machine, so if I hit the wrong button, it won't matter
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Translations did mark the bug triaged
[15:58] <mr_pouit> I'm looking at the changes in yesterday's upload
[15:58] <mr_pouit> ast.po
[15:58] <charlie-tca> I will go look at a few languages today, then
[15:59] <mr_pouit> bs.po, ca.po
[16:01] <charlie-tca> I can run the install up to the slideshow and see if it is translated in some of the major languages, at least
[16:02] <mr_pouit> da.po, el.po, en_*.po, etc.
[16:02] <mr_pouit> and fr.po has been updated, and it looks like the bug is fixed
[16:02] <mr_pouit> but very few languages will have complete translations apparently for our slides :/
[16:02] <charlie-tca> Great! You know how to read those things, I have to actually try it to do that.
[16:03] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu translates the text only, the images are all in English
[16:03] <charlie-tca> But, he said there were only two lines translated dur
[16:03] <charlie-tca> ing testing
[16:04] <mr_pouit> yep, but they translated (all|most) strings now
[16:04] <charlie-tca> That counts. 
[16:04] <charlie-tca> If some text is still not translated, it should be okay
[16:05] <charlie-tca> At least we get most of it in the readers language
[17:33] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: slideshow is fully translated in german
[18:23] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: two paragraphs only translated in Korean
[19:09] <aroman> hey everyone. can anyone tell me a little about/point me to somewhere I can learn about how Xubuntu takes Ubuntu and turns it into Xubuntu?
[19:37] <TheSheep> aroman: um, it doesn't?
[19:37] <aroman> TheSheep: hmm?
[19:37] <aroman> I mean the process by which an ubuntu base becomes xubuntu
[19:37] <TheSheep> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ;)
[19:38] <holstein> aroman: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ?
[19:38] <aroman> holstein: I'm looking for what Xubuntu does like that.
[19:38] <aroman> like some tarball or launchpad project that has the scripts that create a Xubuntu liveCD
[19:38] <aroman> not just the desktop metapackage
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Check the manifest on the livecd
[19:40] <aroman> will do. downloading a Xubuntu iso now.
[19:42] <charlie-tca> This gives the logs from the daily build, too - http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/natty/
[19:43] <charlie-tca> which might be more confusing than helpful
[19:43] <charlie-tca> !manifest
[19:44] <aroman> charlie-tca: I think what I can take away from this is that I need to investigate "germinate"
[19:46] <charlie-tca> Here is what 10.10 was built from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseManifestOverview
[19:46] <charlie-tca> We are under "Flavors"
[19:47] <aroman> charlie-tca: so basically just a lot of packages?
[19:47] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:47] <aroman> I'm curious about how Xubuntu customizes things like the boot splash
[19:47] <charlie-tca> by picking and choosing packages, and making sure that there are packages to make things work with each other
[19:47] <charlie-tca> That would be in bazaar
[19:48] <aroman> does Xubuntu fork that package and then install it via that manifest file?
[19:48] <aroman> charlie-tca: ah, where could I find that exactly?
[19:48] <charlie-tca> um, no, we don't fork the package, we build a list of every package we want installed that is in Ubuntu's repositories
[19:49] <aroman> charlie-tca: right, but surely there are things that aren't packaged as standard xfce or ubuntu stuff.
[19:49] <aroman> like Xubuntu specific branding
[19:49] <aroman> how does that get applied to the LiveCD?
[19:49] <charlie-tca> As an official derivative, we are using ubuntu repositories. If the package doesn't exist there, we do not use it
[19:50] <charlie-tca> We create a package for the specifics, usually as part of the Ubuntu package
[19:50] <charlie-tca> rather, based on the ubuntu package
[19:50] <aroman> ah
[19:50] <aroman> and that ubuntu package "brands" the OS properly?
[19:50] <charlie-tca> but, every package we use must be available to Ubuntu, also
[19:51] <aroman> like via postinst or something
[19:51] <charlie-tca> yes, for example, the slideshows
[19:51] <aroman> okay now I'm getting it.
[19:51] <charlie-tca> ubuntu uses ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[19:51] <charlie-tca> we use ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu
[19:51] <charlie-tca> kubuntu uses ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu
[19:51] <aroman> and that includes the artwork/branding for xubuntu, and when installing the package it installs the files?
[19:52] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:52] <aroman> gotcha
[19:52] <charlie-tca> It is all built in bzr, first
[19:52] <aroman> so I think what I need is to see where the xubuntu package with all the postinst stuff lives
[19:52] <aroman> I didn't see code at https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <charlie-tca> let me see if I can remember where to look
[19:54] <aroman> excellent, I appreciate that
[19:54] <charlie-tca> I think - 
[19:55] <charlie-tca> bzr branch lp:xubuntu
[19:55] <charlie-tca> but I won't take bets on it
[19:55] <charlie-tca> I don't do any proh
[19:55] <aroman> no dice I'm afriad
[19:55] <aroman> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/xubuntu": no supported schemes
[19:55] <charlie-tca> I don't do any programming, myself
[19:55] <aroman> ah
[19:57] <aroman> charlie-tca: I think I've found the goodies: https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev
[19:58] <charlie-tca> there is also branches for /xubuntu-docs
[19:58] <charlie-tca> and /xubuntu-artwork
[19:59] <charlie-tca> Well, maybe I got you pointed there, at least, then
[19:59] <aroman> https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art
[19:59] <aroman> yep :)
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Like I say, not doing any packaging or coding makes it harder to find things, sometimes
[20:00] <aroman> yeah no worries
[20:00] <aroman> I think I've got what I came in search of
[20:00] <aroman> charlie-tca: thanks a ton for your help :)
[20:00] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:00] <charlie-tca> no problem, glad we got you in the right direction, anyway!
[23:05] <Unit193> trigger-rally, gl-117 and gnibbles all crash in Xubuntu 11.04, would this be an OpenGL (or something like that) issue? (No, I don't only do games)
[23:06] <TheSheep> wrong channel :)
[23:06] <TheSheep> !+1
[23:06] <TheSheep> !ubuntu+1
[23:07] <Unit193> Eh, didn't know if it was some dev thing...
[23:07]  * Unit193 fails