=== MisterJones is now known as lostson [11:03] 'llo [15:01] Good morning [15:52] charlie-tca: hey. Did you check the translations for the slideshow today? [15:53] I think a new upload was done yesterday, and it should include more translations [15:53] no. I have to have jibel check them, I think. I can't read french [15:53] hehe [15:53] I can check in korean, though [15:53] it was only for French? [15:53] No, that was the one he used [15:54] I think it was all translations [15:54] I believe there were several languages looked at [15:54] I will give it a go today. Got a nomal desktop install running now [15:54] yep, I looked at the French translations when the bug was filed: everything was translated as "proposed", but not validated yet [15:55] Then we should be in good shape now? [15:55] I don't know, maybe nobody validated them? [15:55] I will try it to verify. I guess I can look and see if it is english in any language, right? [15:56] It is a test machine, so if I hit the wrong button, it won't matter [15:56] Translations did mark the bug triaged [15:58] I'm looking at the changes in yesterday's upload [15:58] ast.po [15:58] I will go look at a few languages today, then [15:59] bs.po, ca.po [16:01] I can run the install up to the slideshow and see if it is translated in some of the major languages, at least [16:02] da.po, el.po, en_*.po, etc. [16:02] and fr.po has been updated, and it looks like the bug is fixed [16:02] but very few languages will have complete translations apparently for our slides :/ [16:02] Great! You know how to read those things, I have to actually try it to do that. [16:03] Ubuntu translates the text only, the images are all in English [16:03] But, he said there were only two lines translated dur [16:03] ing testing [16:04] yep, but they translated (all|most) strings now [16:04] That counts. [16:04] If some text is still not translated, it should be okay [16:05] At least we get most of it in the readers language [17:33] mr_pouit: slideshow is fully translated in german [18:23] mr_pouit: two paragraphs only translated in Korean [19:09] hey everyone. can anyone tell me a little about/point me to somewhere I can learn about how Xubuntu takes Ubuntu and turns it into Xubuntu? [19:37] aroman: um, it doesn't? [19:37] TheSheep: hmm? [19:37] I mean the process by which an ubuntu base becomes xubuntu [19:37] apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ;) [19:38] aroman: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ? [19:38] holstein: I'm looking for what Xubuntu does like that. [19:38] like some tarball or launchpad project that has the scripts that create a Xubuntu liveCD [19:38] not just the desktop metapackage [19:39] Check the manifest on the livecd [19:40] will do. downloading a Xubuntu iso now. [19:42] This gives the logs from the daily build, too - http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/natty/ [19:43] which might be more confusing than helpful [19:43] !manifest [19:44] charlie-tca: I think what I can take away from this is that I need to investigate "germinate" [19:46] Here is what 10.10 was built from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseManifestOverview [19:46] We are under "Flavors" [19:47] charlie-tca: so basically just a lot of packages? [19:47] yes [19:47] I'm curious about how Xubuntu customizes things like the boot splash [19:47] by picking and choosing packages, and making sure that there are packages to make things work with each other [19:47] That would be in bazaar [19:48] does Xubuntu fork that package and then install it via that manifest file? [19:48] charlie-tca: ah, where could I find that exactly? [19:48] um, no, we don't fork the package, we build a list of every package we want installed that is in Ubuntu's repositories [19:49] charlie-tca: right, but surely there are things that aren't packaged as standard xfce or ubuntu stuff. [19:49] like Xubuntu specific branding [19:49] how does that get applied to the LiveCD? [19:49] As an official derivative, we are using ubuntu repositories. If the package doesn't exist there, we do not use it [19:50] We create a package for the specifics, usually as part of the Ubuntu package [19:50] rather, based on the ubuntu package [19:50] ah [19:50] and that ubuntu package "brands" the OS properly? [19:50] but, every package we use must be available to Ubuntu, also [19:51] like via postinst or something [19:51] yes, for example, the slideshows [19:51] okay now I'm getting it. [19:51] ubuntu uses ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu [19:51] we use ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu [19:51] kubuntu uses ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu [19:51] and that includes the artwork/branding for xubuntu, and when installing the package it installs the files? [19:52] yes [19:52] gotcha [19:52] It is all built in bzr, first [19:52] so I think what I need is to see where the xubuntu package with all the postinst stuff lives [19:52] I didn't see code at https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop [19:53] let me see if I can remember where to look [19:54] excellent, I appreciate that [19:54] I think - [19:55] bzr branch lp:xubuntu [19:55] but I won't take bets on it [19:55] I don't do any proh [19:55] no dice I'm afriad [19:55] bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/xubuntu": no supported schemes [19:55] I don't do any programming, myself [19:55] ah [19:57] charlie-tca: I think I've found the goodies: https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev [19:58] there is also branches for /xubuntu-docs [19:58] and /xubuntu-artwork [19:59] Well, maybe I got you pointed there, at least, then [19:59] https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art [19:59] yep :) [20:00] Like I say, not doing any packaging or coding makes it harder to find things, sometimes [20:00] yeah no worries [20:00] I think I've got what I came in search of [20:00] charlie-tca: thanks a ton for your help :) [20:00] You are welcome [20:00] no problem, glad we got you in the right direction, anyway! [23:05] trigger-rally, gl-117 and gnibbles all crash in Xubuntu 11.04, would this be an OpenGL (or something like that) issue? (No, I don't only do games) [23:06] wrong channel :) [23:06] !+1 [23:06] !ubuntu+1 [23:07] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [23:07] Eh, didn't know if it was some dev thing... [23:07] * Unit193 fails