| humphreybc | Hey, anyone who's around, could you please mention my nick "humphreybc" in about 5 seconds? | 02:44 |
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| humphreybc | I'm just screenshotting some stuff for Unity | 02:44 |
| humphreybc | I want to turn the messaging menu blue :) | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | humphreybc: sure | 02:44 |
| humphreybc | thanks ajmitch, that did the trick! | 02:45 |
| TheMuso | /c/c | 03:16 |
| DBO | am I crazy or does Unity kinda just work now... | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | DBO: it does seem to be kind of working, even in virtualbox for me | 03:31 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 06:58 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 08:03 |
| MacSlow | good morning everybody | 08:13 |
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| davidcalle | kamstrup, thanks for the help with zeitgeist, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRM0z9GprQg | 09:18 |
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| apw | is 15s from password to working desktop our expected timeing? | 10:58 |
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| om26er | Hi! can anyone confirm bug 758026 on fresh login? | 12:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 758026 in unity (Ubuntu) "Left pixel of launcher is not clickable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758026 | 12:23 |
| om26er | (and no 'unity --replace') | 12:25 |
| om26er | didrocks, bug 754689 I don't see the fix, was something missed? | 12:57 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 754689 in unity (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Centered layout for expo plugin" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754689 | 12:57 |
| didrocks | om26er: do you have latest compiz plugins main? | 12:59 |
| om26er | didrocks, yes, it seems | 13:00 |
| didrocks | om26er: you should not have the launcher above the wallpaper after the update | 13:00 |
| hicham | didrocks: any replacement for the old notification area ? | 13:02 |
| didrocks | hicham: it's the indicators doing that, if you have libunity-misc, you have still a notification area btw (whitelisted) | 13:03 |
| zniavre | good afternoon | 13:09 |
| zniavre | http://i.imgur.com/zRSvp.png > what is the option missing with 'nouveau' driver to get good tooltips launcher display please ? | 13:12 |
| om26er_ | didrocks, Do you plan to disable fade on the closing of Drop-DownMenus to lessen the white flashes as in bug 687567 ? | 13:12 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 687567 in unity (Ubuntu) "Global menu causes white "flashes" when scrubbing/moving with mouse fast over menus" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687567 | 13:12 |
| didrocks | om26er_: no, because it will have other artifacts (and it's too late for such a change), in addition, it won't migrate existing natty user | 13:14 |
| didrocks | I find that shouldn't be set to high btw | 13:14 |
| om26er_ | synced with upstream, and everyone faces it. | 13:15 |
| didrocks | not everyone | 13:17 |
| didrocks | I don't get it on nvidia for instance | 13:18 |
| didrocks | anyway, it's already set to unity backlog | 13:18 |
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| hicham | didrocks: thanks, any config to whitelist apps, or is it hardcoded ? | 13:28 |
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| hicham | didrocks: another question, is it necessary to patch gtk to get menus on the top bar ? | 13:29 |
| didrocks | hicham: the whitelisting is in the gsettings schema | 13:30 |
| didrocks | hicham: and yeah, the gtk patch is needed for exporting the menu | 13:30 |
| hicham | didrocks: do I need to patch both gtk2/gtk3 ? | 13:30 |
| didrocks | hicham: you will need to. upstream didn't ack it so it's a distro-patch | 13:31 |
| hicham | didrocks: any link to why upstream didn't ack ? | 13:32 |
| didrocks | hicham: I think the bugzilla report should be in the patch header | 13:33 |
| hicham | didrocks: 043_ubuntu_menu_proxy.patch and and 072_indicator_menu_update.patch ? | 13:36 |
| didrocks | hicham: I think so, yeah, kenvandine should have the details on that | 13:37 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks | 13:38 |
| hicham | hi kenvandine | 13:38 |
| didrocks | om26er_: I'll look at bug #758026 later this week (for a natty SRU) | 13:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 758026 in unity (Ubuntu) "Left pixel of launcher is not clickable on session start" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758026 | 13:42 |
| didrocks | om26er_: just for my curiousity, does grid works at login? | 13:42 |
| didrocks | (I bet it's because of the edge reveal) | 13:42 |
| om26er_ | didrocks, nothing works on login | 13:43 |
| om26er_ | (on the edge I meant) | 13:43 |
| didrocks | om26er_: grid as well? | 13:43 |
| om26er_ | didrocks, grid works, | 13:44 |
| didrocks | om26er_: ok, I'll have a try with "reveal on edge" deactivated in ccsm once I'll tackle that | 13:44 |
| om26er_ | didrocks, yeah, thanks. | 13:45 |
| hicham | didrocks: no luck on finding upstream link for ubuntu_menu_proxy.patch | 13:50 |
| didrocks | hicham: ask to kenvandine, IIRC, he's the one pushing this patch (with tedg) | 13:51 |
| hicham | didrocks: when is he online usually ? | 13:51 |
| didrocks | hicham: should be soon, he lives in the US | 13:51 |
| * kenvandine is here | 13:51 | |
| * kenvandine reads back | 13:52 | |
| hicham | kenvandine: any upstream gnome bugzilla link about ubuntu_menu_proxy.patch ? | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | i don't think it was submitted upstream | 13:53 |
| kenvandine | if i recall correctly, bratsche was told it wouldn't be accepted | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | or at least not yet | 13:54 |
| hicham | so it needs more work ? | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | i don't think it was inline with the vision from upstream | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | i don't really know the details | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | dbarth might know | 13:55 |
| * kenvandine isn't opposed to having it submitted upstream | 13:55 | |
| hicham | what do part do you work on in the unity stack ? | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | mostly the infrastructure libraries | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | dbusmenu, appmenu, indicator* | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | etc | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | tedg, do you recall if ubuntu_menu_proxy.patch was submitted upstream? | 13:57 |
| hicham | nice | 13:58 |
| hicham | the vala bindings fail when using gtk2 in here | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | hicham, for which package? | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | dbusmenu? | 13:58 |
| hicham | kenvandine: yes | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | you need the EXPORT_PACKAGES patch | 13:58 |
| hicham | kenvandine: when using gtk3, the bindings are generated | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | yeah, my patch got merged in gtk3 | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | not gtk2 yet | 13:59 |
| hicham | kenvandine: any link ? | 13:59 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Uhm, not sure. I know it was discussed, but I'm not sure if we actually submitted it or not. | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635287 | 13:59 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 635287 in general "Specify packages when generating GIR" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | it got marked resolved when it was merged for gtk3 | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/065_gir_set_packages.patch | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | hicham, ^^ | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | that is the current patch we carry in natty | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | tedg, i seemed to recall someone said the menu proxy patch wouldn't get accepted | 14:01 |
| * kenvandine will brb | 14:02 | |
| hicham | kenvandine: thanks a lot | 14:02 |
| chrono86 | is there a reason when i select gtk themes that use a dark panel like orta or elementary, my unity panel stays light? | 14:03 |
| hicham | tedg: that patch is the only missing piece here in fedora, so far | 14:03 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I think that's why we moved it to the "ubuntu" name space. | 14:06 |
| tedg | hicham, Wow, cool! | 14:06 |
| chrono86 | my panel displays correctly in unity2d and ubuntu classic, but never follows my gtk theme in regular unity | 14:07 |
| cdbs | om26er_: /move the discussion here | 14:14 |
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| om26er_ | ok | 14:14 |
| cdbs | So, is the gray workspace switcher icon intended? | 14:14 |
| cdbs | (question for everyone around0 | 14:15 |
| cdbs | ) | 14:15 |
| cdbs | In mockups it doesn't seem to be so | 14:15 |
| didrocks | cdbs: it is, the mockups wasn't updated | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | hicham, well anytime you have packaging questions for our stuff... let me know | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | i'll be happy to help | 14:18 |
| didrocks | cdbs: there is a bug I fixed this morning about the icon being reverted to humanity one, I'll upload that in a couple of horus with other fixes | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | cool to see it making it to fedora | 14:18 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: hicham already managed to get the whole unity in fedora, that's nice! :-) | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | woot | 14:18 |
| * kenvandine has to run out for a bit | 14:27 | |
| daker | hello didrocks | 14:54 |
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| cdbs | Fedoral Unity! Sounds niche :) Unity that brings Unity to the entire FOSS world, not only Ubuntu :) | 15:18 |
| hicham | cdbs : yes, but some pieces are missing still | 15:19 |
| cdbs | hicham: nevertheless, good effort | 15:19 |
| hicham | cdbs : practically, it can be now in fedora if we update to latest compiz git | 15:20 |
| hicham | cdbs : you can have a look at how far I went on http://hicham.fedorapeople.org/unity-packaging/ | 15:21 |
| cdbs | hicham: thanks for the link, oh it appears you're packaging utouch and all other ayatana stuff as well! | 15:22 |
| hicham | cdbs : it is needed to build unity | 15:23 |
| cdbs | hicham: well, yeah | 15:23 |
| cdbs | hicham: okay, I won't trouble you any more, keep up the good work | 15:24 |
| hicham | cdbs : I filed a bug about a crashing utouch-geis, no answer so far, had to remove some code to have unity working | 15:24 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: did you talk to kamstrup yet about the lenses? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, not yet | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, ping | 15:30 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: did you see this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRM0z9GprQg | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it's sweet! | 15:33 |
| MaximLevitsky | why I can't enable cube with unity in ccsm | 15:34 |
| MaximLevitsky | ? | 15:34 |
| stefano-palazzo | davidcalle, are you around? | 15:35 |
| davidcalle | stefano-palazzo, hi | 15:35 |
| stefano-palazzo | hey :) | 15:35 |
| stefano-palazzo | I've just seen that video on youtube, just came to tell you | 15:36 |
| stefano-palazzo | you rock! | 15:36 |
| MaximLevitsky | In fact if I mess around with manual plugin loading in ccsm, it works just fine | 15:36 |
| stefano-palazzo | that zeitgeist integration is _awesome_! | 15:36 |
| davidcalle | stefano-palazzo, ty! It's really buggy at the moment, but I'm working on it. | 15:37 |
| jcastro | davidcalle: that's not in the PPA is it? | 15:38 |
| jcastro | oh ok, I will just tell people it's not ready yet | 15:38 |
| stefano-palazzo | And I shall look at the code as soon as I get a chance, and see what I can learn from it | 15:38 |
| tanzanux | Hi, since I don't like dark menus I use Radiance theme instead of Ambiance. How can I change the dark backgrounds e.g. in the search desktop? | 15:38 |
| MaximLevitsky | why I can't enable cube with unity in ccsm? | 15:38 |
| jcastro | stefano-palazzo: right, so it's like "man I'm stuck in evolution", summon lens, show evolution tag questions right off the bat. | 15:39 |
| stefano-palazzo | davidcalle, you should think about talking to the Calibre people, maybe you can integrate with Calibre too | 15:39 |
| jcastro | MaximLevitsky: the cube hasn't been tested much with unity so it's off | 15:39 |
| davidcalle | jcastro, no, it's not even in a bzr branch. For now, it's sending a lot of google queries... which result in Google mailing me to say they suspect I'm doing bad things with the API... :-O | 15:39 |
| jcastro | davidcalle: ok, I'll just say it's a prototype. | 15:39 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: it can be default off, but why hard depedence? | 15:39 |
| jcastro | MaximLevitsky: afaik we can't commit to test coverage for it | 15:40 |
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| davidcalle | stefano-palazzo, I'll tell you when I push it on Launchpad. | 15:40 |
| jcastro | and the people who want it can just mangle it to work, at that point you get to keep both pieces if it breaks. :) | 15:41 |
| stefano-palazzo | righto, thanks davidcalle | 15:41 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: why again the hard depedence? | 15:41 |
| jcastro | I don't know | 15:41 |
| MaximLevitsky | its not possible to enable cube in ccsm | 15:42 |
| MaximLevitsky | why? | 15:42 |
| MaximLevitsky | sure you are allowed to leave it disabled, using the exuse of not enough test coverage, but why hard disable it? | 15:42 |
| davidcalle | stefano-palazzo, about Calibre, yes it's a cool idea. | 15:43 |
| MaximLevitsky | so, really there is no reason for that | 15:48 |
| MaximLevitsky | I have another question | 15:48 |
| MaximLevitsky | why if I switch to empty desktop and try to launch an existing app, it switches to desktop where it is located? | 15:48 |
| MaximLevitsky | existing/running? | 15:49 |
| MaximLevitsky | I always open firefox on several desktops, so that is annoying | 15:49 |
| davidcalle | jcastro, thanks for the cool blog post! :) | 15:51 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 15:51 |
| jcastro | MaximLevitsky: clicking on the icon takes you to the running app, to do a new one on a new desktop middle click | 15:52 |
| zniavre_ | hello do i need to add this " Option "ShadowFB" to my xorg.conf to display tooltips launcher with translucidy ? | 15:53 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: ok, my mouse has no middle button... I use touchpad.... | 15:53 |
| MaximLevitsky | why not to add a menuitem in right meny | 15:54 |
| MaximLevitsky | menu | 15:54 |
| jcastro | firefox has one | 15:55 |
| jcastro | it has an open new window one | 15:55 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: on the same desktop... | 15:55 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: I want to open new empty desktop and start new applications there | 15:56 |
| jcastro | that opens it on a new desktop for me | 15:56 |
| MaximLevitsky | it doesn't here, and besides that is not good ether | 15:56 |
| MaximLevitsky | I want just to open a new empty desktop and while I am on it, open all applications I want | 15:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | I don't want unity to send me to other desktops | 15:58 |
| MaximLevitsky | LIke I usually have a desktop for the university homework, a desktop for web browsing, etc... | 15:58 |
| MaximLevitsky | Please understand that this behavior is not intuitive, no interface did that before | 15:59 |
| pcgod | win 7 does ;) | 15:59 |
| MaximLevitsky | and it has virtual desktops? | 16:00 |
| MaximLevitsky | sure without desktops unity is ok | 16:00 |
| MaximLevitsky | since yep, it copies win7 or whatever | 16:00 |
| pcgod | (but shift+left click also opens a new instance for those without a middle mouse button... maybe unity should do the same thing) | 16:00 |
| MaximLevitsky | also, why there is no way to add a custom launcher to unity? | 16:01 |
| MaximLevitsky | I have the 'gtku nautilus' launcher on my gnome-panel | 16:02 |
| MaximLevitsky | if I just lauch that, nautilus icon appears active | 16:03 |
| MaximLevitsky | so I can't pin it | 16:03 |
| MaximLevitsky | also top toolbar wastes a lot of space since you can't add anything to it | 16:04 |
| hicham | the menus are put there | 16:04 |
| hicham | which saves some vertical space | 16:04 |
| MaximLevitsky | I know | 16:04 |
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| MaximLevitsky | but I disable that feature because its very unusable | 16:05 |
| MaximLevitsky | besides, why menu bar is hidden by default? | 16:05 |
| hicham | to show it on the panel | 16:05 |
| MaximLevitsky | I mean hidden in the panel | 16:05 |
| MaximLevitsky | unless you mouse over it | 16:05 |
| MaximLevitsky | to make it less intuitive? | 16:06 |
| hicham | no, because the window title is shown over there | 16:06 |
| MaximLevitsky | yes, but why I need that title? | 16:06 |
| MaximLevitsky | I have window title on the window | 16:07 |
| hicham | not when it is miximized | 16:07 |
| MaximLevitsky | besides both title and munubar can be shown | 16:07 |
| MaximLevitsky | now pretty much using menu bars is very hard | 16:07 |
| jcastro | MaximLevitsky: if you create a launcher like on your desktop, you can just drag it onto the launcher | 16:12 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: I tried that | 16:13 |
| MaximLevitsky | however, then if I remove it from desktop, it disappears from unity | 16:13 |
| MaximLevitsky | besides that is cumbersome | 16:13 |
| hicham | you need to put it somewhere | 16:14 |
| jcastro | oh I didn't know that removing it from the desktop removed it from the launcher | 16:15 |
| jcastro | maybe just copy it into .local/share/applications or something | 16:15 |
| MaximLevitsky | jcastro: oh yeah, it would even be better to create an xml file in .local/share/app8f34/.... | 16:16 |
| MaximLevitsky | but anyway, my major gripes about unity are: | 16:17 |
| jcastro | I don't know why you're being cynical towards me, I'm just trying to help you | 16:17 |
| MaximLevitsky | 1. hard block of cube - that is just nasty | 16:17 |
| MaximLevitsky | 2. switch to desktop when you try to open a running app | 16:18 |
| * hicham can use the cube with unity without issues | 16:18 | |
| MaximLevitsky | sure you can | 16:18 |
| MaximLevitsky | but you can't enable it in ccsm | 16:18 |
| hicham | why ? crash ? | 16:18 |
| MaximLevitsky | unless you use dangerous manual pluging selection | 16:18 |
| MaximLevitsky | because unity depends on wall | 16:19 |
| MaximLevitsky | and wall conflicts with cube | 16:19 |
| hicham | in don't have such dependency in here | 16:19 |
| MaximLevitsky | hicham: what version? | 16:19 |
| MaximLevitsky | you probably use older version that didn't have that unnesesary depedency | 16:20 |
| hicham | MaximLevitsky: unity-3.8.4-1.fc15.i686 | 16:20 |
| MaximLevitsky | hicham: aha | 16:20 |
| MaximLevitsky | the fedora probably patches that sorry for expression stupid depedency | 16:20 |
| MaximLevitsky | patched | 16:20 |
| MaximLevitsky | but in ubuntu cube is forced off | 16:21 |
| MaximLevitsky | it just insults me. It like somebody on purpose without any reasonable reason tries to force me to stop using it | 16:22 |
| MaximLevitsky | "lack of testing" isn't such reason | 16:22 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/711561 | 16:22 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 711561 in unity (Ubuntu) "Compiz won't allow Desktop Cube plugin to load with unity" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 16:22 |
| jcastro | the bug shows up as fix released | 16:22 |
| jcastro | if it doesn't work reopen it | 16:22 |
| MaximLevitsky | OH! | 16:23 |
| MaximLevitsky | I updated my VM with ubuntu 11.04 today. probably didn't hit repostries yey | 16:23 |
| MaximLevitsky | yet | 16:23 |
| MaximLevitsky | Thats sure deserves the 'suddenoutbreakofcommonsense' tag :-) | 16:24 |
| jcastro | MaximLevitsky: right, sorry, didn't mean to topple your upcoming flame | 16:24 |
| jcastro | though it doesn't seem to enable for me and that release is old | 16:24 |
| jcastro | so you should probably reopen the bug | 16:24 |
| kamstrup | jcastro, kenvandine: sorry, i'm sprinting in millbank so it's hard to find a free chunk of time | 16:25 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: I would settle for someone just mentioning to the rest of the team that python lenses don't work on login. :) | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, ah, did you see the bug report? | 16:26 |
| hicham | where can I find lenses ? | 16:26 |
| kamstrup | yeah, saw it - but no good idea off the top of my head ... | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, afaict the situation got worse yesterday | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | but that could just be a coincidence :) | 16:27 |
| jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses | 16:27 |
| kamstrup | does the sample python lens work? | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, after i posted that comment on the bug, i actually did have a login where the reddit lens failed | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, i'll test | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, they all work if i reload unity without logging out/in | 16:28 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: probably some io-dependent race | 16:28 |
| hicham | jcastro: so no lenses are made yet ? still in design ? | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | last week i was seeing assertions that the sections_model wasn't a Dee.Model | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | hicham, there are some... not sure if they are linked to from a central place | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, last week the gwibber lens was working reliably, and last night it started failing too with no code changes | 16:29 |
| jcastro | hicham: the few that exist are linked on that page | 16:29 |
| * kenvandine tests the python example lens | 16:29 | |
| jcastro | hicham: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=lenses | 16:29 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: well, the one thing that has been in unity is the lazy loading of lenses, but it would be surprising if that was impacting this | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, didn't that land last week? | 16:30 |
| zniavre | hello im using the new 173.14-30 nvidia driver and im unable to start unity | 16:30 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: s/been/changed/ | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | i could test reverting that | 16:30 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: I think so | 16:30 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: 3.8.10 | 16:30 |
| didrocks | oupss | 16:30 |
| didrocks | 3.8.8 rather | 16:30 |
| didrocks | but it was buggy, so -0ubuntu2 has an additional fix | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | yeah, with that release the AU one started working for me | 16:31 |
| didrocks | called it double "French fix" :-) | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | but now they all fail :/ | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:31 |
| davidcalle | kamstrup, on a related note, is there a signal when a lens is opened/closed? | 16:32 |
| kenvandine | yes | 16:32 |
| kenvandine | davidcalle, i use it in the gwibber lens | 16:32 |
| kenvandine | what the active property i think | 16:32 |
| davidcalle | kenvandine, "active" yes, but I've seen it appear if you stop typing, then typing again. | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | that doesn't sound right.. | 16:34 |
| davidcalle | kenvandine, that's what I've been hitting my head on since two days. :) | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, the python place fails too | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | not every time, but it failed 2 out of 4 logins | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | however the gwibber lens just worked 4 out of those same 4 logins | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | and the AU lens failed 4 out of those same 4 logins | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | and the reddit lens failed 3 out of those 4 logins | 16:38 |
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| kenvandine | kamstrup, i added some logging to the gwibber lens, and it looks like it is all functioning | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | it refreshes data, says it updates the model, etc | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | but unity never sees it | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | and it never sees the sections | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | when it fails that is | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | if i "setsid unity" after login, they all work fine | 16:39 |
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| jcastro | davidcalle: on an unrelated note, what's with the new icon? the old one was awesome | 16:55 |
| \sh | kenvandine, ping appindicator pygobject...is there any realworld example for python which subclasses AppIndicator.Indicator? because I'm getting some strange errors here :) | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | \sh, no... and i tried working on creating an overrides to make subclassing work and it causes segfaults | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | \sh, but it does work with gi if you don't subclass it | 16:56 |
| seiflotfy_ | guys | 16:57 |
| seiflotfy_ | whats up with python bindings for unity | 16:57 |
| seiflotfy_ | they are crashing all of my unity | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | ? | 16:57 |
| \sh | kenvandine, so something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596599/ should not work right now at all | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | seiflotfy_, how so? | 16:57 |
| seiflotfy_ | dunno | 16:57 |
| seiflotfy_ | kenvandine, care to test my youtube-place | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | \sh, right... not sure why | 16:58 |
| davidcalle | jcastro, it's a placeholder as I didn't have the time to port the old one to the new lenses icon look. | 16:58 |
| \sh | kenvandine, well it thinks it's a gobject alone and doesn't like any other arguments then self ;-) | 16:58 |
| seiflotfy_ | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~seif/+junk/youtube-place | 16:58 |
| seiflotfy_ | try it | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | \sh, this does work though http://paste.ubuntu.com/596600/ | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | seiflotfy_, i will after lunch | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | i gotta run out in a few minutes | 16:59 |
| \sh | anyways, if there is another way, it's not a problem... | 16:59 |
| \sh | kenvandine, yes, this works :) | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | \sh, well it is annoying ... actually it mostly annoys me because i couldn't fix it :) | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | i need to spend more time on it | 16:59 |
| hicham | seiflotfy_: a place for youtube ? | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | but shouldn't be a blocker, there is another way | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | seiflotfy_, is this different than the youtube place njpatel had? | 16:59 |
| seiflotfy_ | yeah | 17:00 |
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| seiflotfy_ | kenvandine, its in python | 17:00 |
| seiflotfy_ | hicham, yeah | 17:00 |
| \sh | kenvandine, btw..without set_icon_theme_path("/usr/share/icons") the indicators (without gi) don't work as described in the examples...it doesn't show the messages-new icon in the panel | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | seiflotfy_, we are having some problems right now getting python lenses loading at login time | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | i am debugging that now | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | \sh, weird, file a bug please | 17:00 |
| \sh | kenvandine, ok | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | seiflotfy_, but if you "setsid unity" after login it works | 17:01 |
| seiflotfy_ | kenvandine, while mine crashes unity | 17:01 |
| * kenvandine disappears for lunch | 17:01 | |
| seiflotfy_ | i dont have a provlem getting it running | 17:01 |
| seiflotfy_ | i have issues clikcing on stuff without making it crash all of unity | 17:01 |
| and471 | seiflotfy_, just don't click anything then | 17:02 |
| and471 | ;P | 17:02 |
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| kenvandine | jcastro, ok... reverting the lazy loading in unity fixes it | 18:54 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: yeah but the AU lens didn't work for me pre-lazy loading | 18:55 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: if if all 4 of them work for you and you've tested it ... | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | it was working for me then and is working for me now | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | the books one isn't working, but it seems like a different problem | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | the daemon is crashing | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | but the others worked 5 of 5 logins | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | the really puzzling thing with this is why it only seems to be affecting the python lenses | 18:56 |
| kenvandine | maybe the python ones are just the slowest... | 18:56 |
| * kenvandine looks through the diff to see try to narrow it down | 18:57 | |
| chrono86 | is there a reason my gdm screen resolution is so low? after i boot into unity it fixes itself | 19:57 |
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| zniavre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/767613 | 21:19 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 767613 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity does not start with nvidia173.14.30" [Undecided,New] | 21:20 |
| LouisDK | Hi. I have some problems with Unity on my netbook. It has been updated to Ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 when 11.04 was in alpha. Some settings seems locked also with a newly created user. Is the the right channel to ask? | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | hi, we have been having some discussion in our loco about the unity default settings for compiz and I was wondering if there was a document or something relating to some of the decisions behind the settings | 21:42 |
| AlanBell | for example shift-switcher is off by default, so super+tab does nothing, however by turning that plugin on by default it would do a pretty window switcher. Super+tab is apparently the key binding on windows for something called Aero flip which looks the same but not as pretty. | 21:43 |
| AlanBell | enhanced zoom is great, but for some reason it is off by default and does not have the mouse bindings set so you can't do super+mousewheel to zoom in and out | 21:45 |
| popey | i can see why zoom isnt disabled | 21:47 |
| popey | at a guess | 21:47 |
| popey | people get stuck in effects they cant get out of | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | that would be a plausible reason for not enabling it by default, but why remove the bindings? | 21:48 |
| popey | do they do something else? | 21:49 |
| AlanBell | nope | 21:49 |
| AlanBell | right now you have to install ccsm, enable the plugin, edit the mouse binding for zoom in and zoom out, and know that button 4 means mouse scroll wheel forward and button 5 is mouse scroll wheel back | 21:50 |
| vish | AlanBell: was shiftswitcher previously ON by default? | 21:50 |
| AlanBell | vish: I don't think so | 21:50 |
| AlanBell | I can't see any reason for it not to be on by default though, especially as some people may already be familiar with the keybinding | 21:52 |
| vish | probably something to do with not having too many plugins unnecessarily ON, memory or whatever; but better to ask when didrocks or smspillaz are online.. | 21:53 |
| vish | or we can poke DBO ;p | 21:54 |
| DBO | ouch | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | I can see some plugins have a performance hit and are pointless bling (water, fire, wobbly windows) | 21:55 |
| AlanBell | but shift switcher has no performance impact when not actually shifting in a switchy way | 21:55 |
| DBO | actually it does | 21:55 |
| DBO | all plugins have a performance impact when activated | 21:55 |
| DBO | (they get suck into the processing chain) | 21:56 |
| AlanBell | hmm, it is not asking the GPU to animate anything though | 21:56 |
| vish | sladen: Bug 760656 is for Natty? or postponed? | 22:00 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 760656 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher: Background lighting and border is displayed for Workspaces, Apps, Files, Trash (should be turned off)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760656 | 22:00 |
| AlanBell | DBO: so is that why shift switcher is off by default? | 22:01 |
| DBO | not to my knowledge | 22:01 |
| * AlanBell wonders what the best way forward is | 22:06 | |
| AlanBell | I *could* go through the preferences and file a bug for every setting that doesn't meet my preference :) | 22:08 |
| AlanBell | however I am not sure that is the best way to have a discussion of default preference settings | 22:09 |
| sladen | vish: SRU. Answer on the bug | 22:10 |
| vish | oh! seems a bit of a larger UI change there for an SRU | 22:11 |
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